Experts Shares Diesel Exhaust Fluid Info Saving You Major Engine Repairs
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- In this video, we talk with an expert about DEF Fluid and what you need to know before you pour it into your tank. This expert from the American Petroleum Institute shares several things about diesel exhaust fluid like storing, expiration dates and usage for DEF fluid. If you drive a diesel, you'll want to watch this interview.
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Wow this is interesting thanks for the detailed information. This is good info!
I had 2014-2019 dodge ram 3500 models. I do cars hauling. Now I have 2022. It's a pile of garbage. Transmission, differential, manifold,... everything! Especially def and emissions systems. Meanwhile I have to pay my insurance and leasing. 🤬😤
Ha😂
What about def in tank while truck lives in Texas which is HOT??
Saving the planet one cardboard box and plastic jug at a time
LOL
Not to mention API has a pretty good cash cow. I wonder how much they charge annually for certification?
And 30% more fuel used in order to produce less pollution. lol
You can safe money and avoid the plastic crap if you fill up your DEF at the Semi Gas Stations. It is probably fresher also!
@@marckruse2181 I specifically avoid the truck stops. Have had friends tell me horror stories
This is great education for a new diesel truck owner.
I live in Arizona, it's over 85 degrees half the year. So you mean I have to start refrigerating my DEF? I guess I have to keep the Pabst Blue Ribbon in the garage...
LOL
The guy in the interview is in Idiot. He is talking out both sides of his mouth. Many states are way over that temp. DEF in your tank gets that hot easily in pickups and semi trucks. Like you say in summer time certain states are that hot daily.
No refrigerator need hahaha
how do we charge more for a 99c gallon product.
One to three years, you say...
Was that so hard to say???
Thank you... That's what I needed to know... However, all the other information was equally important to know...
I'm so glad that the government has protected us from all this pollution. Hundreds of millions of cardboard boxes, plastic jugs, toxic chemicals, additional mining for rare metals and additional hardware under your truck, poor fuel economy, and expensive repairs if your toxic chemical has expired. Wheww. this is so much better. Thank you government.
Couldnt have said it better!! I would love for a person to strongly present this evidence to the environmental cheeseballs that speak to Congress. No idea about 2nd and 3rd order consequences to these mandates/exhaust systems
We've come a long way with internal combustion engine emissions, but I think we're at the end of the road. Today we're only robbing Peter to pay Paul. We can reduce tailpipe emissions and have a clean running engine but at the expense of mining and its environmental impact, millions (if not billions) of pounds of single use plastics (and the environmental impact to produce them), as well as burning more fuel; which causes increased dependence on foreign oil, and the environmental impacts of drilling for and refining crude. Emissions reduction was never about saving the environment, it's only a political game.
I wish tim would of brought this up in the interview
Want less emissions use the technology you already have to go farther down the road per gallon. The only thing def does is give diesel truck owners a bigger maintenance bill and breakdowns on the road.
Thank corporate America if they could market shit they would sell shit to you.
Here's a question. How much carbon is produced by having to:
Create distilled water
Create urea
Create all the parts and systems in the trucks for DEF
Create the packaging for DEF
Shipping the DEF
Disposing of the expired DEF
Repairs to vehicles that use "bad def"
Disposing of the plastic jugs and boxes
It's a JOKE
They just come up with more bs to make us spend money
You can donate expired DEF to a farmer. It is a cheap form of fertilizer until the Government agencies force DEF manufacturers to poison it. Agencies do things like that thinking the "law" is more important. For example, during prohibition, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and firearms poisoned barrels of whisky. Consequently killing millions of speak easy patrons. BATF still has not made reparation to the families of the deceased.
All this crap is scams. Lining pockets of all these elites. Just doesn’t make any dam sense. Same goes for all these EV’s.
Bad def makes great fertilizer for your garden, yard or farm ... It's steroids for plants 💪💪💪👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
DEF interacts with the the Selective Catalyst Reduction chamber which is down stream in the exhaust system, DEF does not go into the engine. If not for a stupid sensor in the SCR it would not know what or even if you had DEF. One thing that needs to be done is a drain plug should be on all DEF tanks so the owner can drain the DEF if it reaches a certain age so they can add fresh DEF. Most problems with the DEF system are because the DEF just became stale and that is the start of your problems in the DEF system.
As for the API I personally think they create more problems than they solve with their stupid standards. The entire synthetic oil fiasco could have been stopped if only the API had stepped up and said sorry Castrol but Group III Conventional oil is not synthetic just because you hydro cracked it which only removes some more of the impurities in the oil. The molecules are not changed or created like a true Group IV PAO synthetic or Group V Ester synthetic.
It was the Better Business Bureau's National Advertising Division (NAD) that made the decision that Group III Conventional oil could be labeled as full synthetic oil and sadly the API stupidly went along with that dumb decision making consumers the losers in that stupid decision.
Are all synthetic oils just cleaner conventional oils? Just bought a 2022 ram 3500. Its my first diesel truck.
@@ckryegrass11 No. A true 100% synthetic oil has a molecular structure where all the molecules are the same size, because it's synthetic--synthesized. Conventional or dinosaur oils have molecules of differing sizes.
Airplanes can test their tanks, why cant a truck ???
ALways funny to me -- is the BS that petroleum people put out to the general public to make money - the exhaust outlet on my 6.7 diesel engine smelled like Clorox in the first 30 thousand miles - I mean to the point of me wondering what the hell was the smell that I was smelling when I stopped to take a pee on the side of the road at midnight behind my truck - and after another half dozen times of stopping on the side of the road to do my thing -- did I realize -- that it was my exhaust with no doubt - after doing many dozens of hours of research on that situation - I find out -- that people had GRIPPED at the smell of diesel -- so they decided to TRICK the idiots that did not like that smell of diesel fumes stinking -- that that was the ANSWER -- make it smell like Clorox - - and the dumb s general public will believe that it is a cleaner thing - Yu cannot imagine my SURPRISE at what I found out -- and if yu don't want to believe it -- that's OK -- yu are another dumb s that will believe whatever BS they hand out -- ahahahahahahahahahaha - it was quite shocking to find out such things - and now -- it is a wonder drug for diesels making 100s of millions - and really does NOT stop pollution AT ALL ! ! ! -- un frickin real chit it is --- and as for the age thing of DEF -- it is what they planned all along -- money making racket it is - they know how to stabilize it for months -- and they do not - PERIOD ! - they know how to stabilize fuels for years in reserve - and do not do it for us to benefit from - we have to buy cheap chit for that purpose that does not really last for long -- BS they do - they are surely turning into communist pigs on money matters - a SHAME on america it is -- YEA - I know -- yu believe what THEY say -- ahahahahahahaha - GO-FISH !
@@ckryegrass11 -- ahahahahah-- they are not even really cleaner -- they are just not made of petroleum - and have a lot more additives usually - which account for the better supposed quality - they have more dispersants and detergents - it costs them about 35 cents extras which they get back about 12 dollars for -- ahahahaha - it is true whether it sounds believable or not - most of the better ones have been put out of business - and the different sized molecules don't mean chit - my poop has different sized molecules also - it is just a way to make them cool down better and add a little bit of lubricity if it has it - which most lubricity is not made of the better kind - I have a few quarts left of some that was being made by a company that was hired to make it for a certain application in some odd made trucks - and when it succeeded - it was disbanded for money making reasons - by big companies that stopped its production - for obvious reasons - I bought about 20 quarts of it - it has the ability to make wear componence last a WHOLE lot longer - 40,000 miles worth was it proven affects - and was still said to be able to last much longer if needed - with only filter changes once a year or 40,000 miles - oil companies are so full of rat chit -- ahahahahaha - just buy Rotello syn - and change it at or before intervals is all that is needed - change filters before winter and after no matter how many miles is what is proven -- yu should be able to get 20,000 miles or so -- all other info is BS and is used to make money from - FACT ! ! - everybody will believe whatever they like the sound of -- it is all BS - OIL is OIL - some have more additives - none have much for high mileage usage - they cant sell as much that way -- ahahahaha
I just love saving the earth by throwing away a box and a plastic jug every month as well as burning Urea out my exhaust!
Why is he going on about things that might contaminate DEF harming the engine, when it's injected into the exhaust?
Because he is clueless
Scare tactics
plugged exhaust will harm the engine
@@trobstar7184 Takes a lot to plug exhaust. A little urea ain't gonna do it.
Lol
DEF doesnt reduce pollution at all by itself. What it does is regenerate the 3 way catalyst (SCR). Power plants use ammonia for the same purpose on their SCR's.
@mizzouxc actually it's not.
its correct we use ammonia and catalyst to have 0 emmision
DEF also requires you to spend more fuel. We’re basically required to collect as much pollution as possible so we can put it in our groundwater and back into the air.
All these specifications and API requirements and the one thing that should be required is a USE BY DATE... They should not be able to hide behind all these date codes that you need Indiana Jones to decipher.
Good point.
@@Pickuptrucktalk there is no drain on my DEF tank so if I deploy for six months or longer how to I refresh the fluid in my tank?
Save the planet and money, delete the stupid system.
I hate DEF fluid with a passion. I don’t know why the government introduced this crap. DEF fluid is not the answer. Electric cars is not the answer doing way with fossil fuel is not the answer if everyone is so concerned, why isn’t anyone smart enough to invent an atmosphere, processing center? I think that’s a more realistic goal.
Distilled water and Pig Piss!! How could that ever go BAD?? It was Bad to begin with! Lol 😆 🤣
UREA is biodegradable and great farm or garden fertilizer
Waste of time! Thumbs down
I saved damaging and harming my truck by deleting it. 👍🏻🇺🇸💨
How can I get mine deleted?
So what happens if it’s in your tank system here in south Texas weather is 100 degrees and over
Pretty much every diesel truck I’ve owned in the last 6 years burns through a jug of DEF every 10 000 km. As long as your drive is he vehicle regularity this should be an issue as long as you put fresh fluid in your tank.
Have to use this junk on my Cascadia worst thing they could have ever done go diesel trucks. Total cash focus not reliable million different sensors and junk to break.
Anyone who supported the EPA in implementing this nonsense in the marketplace should be jailed.
really, because people's lives don't matter? i don't love all this emission equipment either, but it is saving tens to hundreds of thousands of excess deaths from air pollution annually
Leave it to Scientists to F’ things up
Storing it at higher temps? That makes no sense. Since my trucks DEF tank is, well, mounted in my truck and it’s 98°F outside, and my DEF capacity is 8,000 miles or so, that DEF fluid is in my truck for about 9 months. During that 9 months it’s stored in all temp ranges that the truck is in.
Def in direct sunlight will affect the uria reading which is if I remember around 32.5. Doesn't touch the engine just throws codes to make people spend money at the dealership. Def in your truck no matter how hot it gets won't change. Its a dumb system and causes too many issues heavy or light duty.
Maybe we should only fill the def tank halfway so it doesn't break down.
DEF converts Ozone in your exhaust into safe ammonia. “NOX” nitrous oxide exhaust is sprayed by the DEF urea. All this bs because EPA is concerned nitrous oxide will cause climate change. Seriously. Real reason is the Greenies simply hate diesel engines and fuel. I have a MB diesel Sprinter and it is so complicated, it is bound to fail all the time. Both Dealerships near me are always packed with lines of Amazon diesel vans that are having exhaust issues. This is a political issue that diesel owners of all kinds are on the wrong side of. I only hope the recent Supreme Court verdict against the EPA recently, can somehow fix this ridiculous exhaust situation. Almost every machine that makes America and the world work is diesel. Water pumps, construction machines, boats, ships, etc. There has to be a simple effective solution that can replace this madness. BTW, It came from California’s Clean Air board-CARB. The same board that outlawed concrete manufacturing in their state in the very near future. Also outlawed small gasoline engines, like generators, lawn tools, etc.To take effect in 2 years.
Also making us buy newer tractors even though the ones we’re selling are just fine. CARB is run by unscientific communist morons who hate business
It's a double win for auto indistry and cost customerstime and money that is based on junk science.
Isn't saying DEF Fluid like saying ATM Machine?
You need to eat the words on several things. Def doesn’t go further. Def doesn’t damage the engine but the emission cans. Def won’t make it to the next oil change. Def is a cash cow.
I love to put def companies out of business such a headache for us truck owners
So happy I got rid of that entire system. Since I deleted it not only I don't have to worry about all this and the dam limp mode, but my truck also burn a lot less fuel. So considering the regen, the extra fuel consumption and everything involve in the production, carrying and packaging of DEF. Is it really that much better for the environment or does it only look better on a bench when passing emissions test so politicians look like they care about environment
Wish my dealership was more clear about DEF when I purchased the truck... Thanks for the update
Most dealers don’t know this stuff neither. I certainly learned a few things!
My dealership had no idea of the DEF.. I heard later they had a whole fleet of pickups on the lot that had DEF issues... I think mine may have been one that had issues and never made a complete refresh or whatever it was they did..
The dealership sucks. The only thing they know how to do is take your money.
I've owned a lot of diesel pickup trucks over the years I just bought a new Ford in October I get messages I'm from Michigan and it's winter time now I have to do a manual regeneration I'm having a message pop up that it's cleaning the filter I still have my 2000 F350 4wd drw it starts ok maybe I should store the new truck beside the Corvette for the winter
So what’s the difference between DEF being stored in a container vs sitting in the tank in the truck? It gets to 105 where I live. Seems like DEF is a Diesel engine destroying liquid and this is why we delete our trucks.
Buy well and get a two year life. So in the heat, at least 1 year. Think you’ll get thru that?
How do I delete it? I have a chevy cruze diesel. The pump is bad
How does DEF destroy a diesel engine? Its injected in the exhaust.
Carry a spare speedometer senssor in your semi truck and you will never be stuck at 5 mph. Just unplug the mounted speed sensor and plug in the spare and lay it on top of the transmission. The system will know a sensor is connected but not know how fast you are going. Most will default to about 45 mph.
Will that work on automatic like dt12?
Does that work on pickups?
The Government should pay for the repairs.
Why do you tubers think they have to have music come on that is way louder than the talking part of their videos?
Just a miss for me while I was editing.
Awesome! My new truck (2000) miles only on it has been at dealership 3 weeks now-DEF pump failed, then replacement pump arrived-defective...
great video, helps understand DEF better.👍
What kind of truck is it?
if DEF goes bad over 85 degrees then you wouldn't be able to use it in the south, we've had 100+ temperatures for more than 60 days. From what you've said I wouldn't be able to drive across town before the DEF would be bad
Storing it outside for extended periods is the issue.
Agree. The DEF in trucks tank cannot be controlled. Such as in a parking lot in direct sun all day while at work. Most summer days it's a 100 degrees even in the shade.
Can you comment on the difference of regular def and platinum def? Is it really worth the extra money?
I've found price matching makes up the cost difference. I'm going to continue with Platinum.
@@cashishift I’m still trying to find out what the platinum def does for the engine?
Im sticking to Platinum since Banks recommend it.
The first def company that puts a regular xx/xx/xx expiration date or born on date will get my $$$
MOPAR uses a standard manufacture date date with a use by date that is two years apart. Example Manufactured 1/1/2020 use by 1/1/2022. So it is MOPAR DEF for you but you likely won't like the cost of the MOPAR DEF.
I am using the new Peak BlueDEF Platinum which they say will help keep deposits from forming in the SCR.
whats an SCR?
@@endurofan9854 "Selective Catalyst Reduction", it is a chamber located down stream in the exhaust system that the DEF is sprayed into to reduce the NOX in the exhaust.
If military vehicles don’t have to have DEF then the citizens shouldn’t either.
I've watched this twice now, and it seems like you're just speculating how people could screw this up. But you said buy the wong fluid. There isn't more than one type of def, that's just deceptive. Not happy with you about that.
I use the DEF at the pump at gas stations, primarily at truck stops, like Quick Trip.
I was told by my drivers friend not to do that because it goes from one tank to another and can be contaminated. I just use supertech been good so far half what bludef cost
@@a-a-ron8437that driver is dumb. The use cycle rate of truck stops has the freshest ASTM diesel and ASTM DEF ..., the boxes are what's actually commonly stale they're no good after 90 days
I enjoyed the video, but I’d like to correct a couple things. 1 DEF never goes in your engine. You cannot screw up your engine. DEF or bad def or no def goes in the after treatment system. It can be very expensive to repair but it is not in the engine. Second, most commercial trucks do not buy bottled DEF we buy our DEF at truckstops with the bulk tanks. you want to go to a big truckstop that uses a lot so it rotates. Modern diesel engines that have been deleted run better have more power and get better fuel economy than emission engines. They are just illegal.
Who said DEF goes into your engine?
Tim I guess I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you said bad def could damage your engine. I guess I heard wrong
@@Bigben-pz8bx Honestly, it has been so many years since I filmed this video, I don't recall what I said. That's why I asked. LOL
13:47 you say bad storage could damage your engine. But I think you mean the parts using the def only.
First time diesel owner. If I were to delete my 2022 3.0, I wouldn’t need DEF any longer?
It is my opinion, but engine design should not allow damage from the transmission, or from DEF or from the
exhaust-system nor the steering or brake system.
What happens to the 4 gallons inside your tank when it’s above 100 degrees outside everyday?
Exactly I was going to ask the same question
High heat is one year life. So use it up within the year of manufacture.
Def is Def it it meets the ISO 7000 standard
DEF is basically cow piss. That's why the smell of ammonia. The engine now emits ammonia.because of DEF.
Many truck stops have def pumps. Fill up over there at Thornton’s. It’s much cheaper. No packaging. And it ain’t gonna get too old or too hot sitting in an underground tank.
I just purchased a diesel pickup and the dealership asked me if I have a truck stop near my home with a def pump. So I called the truck stop and asked them and they said yes they do. When I told the service manager that the truck stop did have a def pump he said good use it that is the best option.
Any issue using the DEF pump at Thornton ?
Update- I have now switched to Blu-DEF platinum.
@jko0526 why did you switch from the pump?
@@jko0526 just add 3ozs of Rinse Aid concentrate and you've got "Premium" DEF .. jet dry works beautifully
running well, BS!!! anytime you have issues at 20,000 mi thats a problem... Another exc
use for dealers to make money.
Brand new equipment you know that a maintenance bill and down time is coming quick. Got a brand new bobcat T770 with that shit on it. And I have 100% confidence in this machine outside of the DEF system. Hoping there’s a machine guru out there working right now trying to figure out how to delete this shit so we can get back to productive reliable equipment.
DEF dosent go into the engine or fuel its completely seperate from the engine so hmmmm maybe I'm overlooking somthing here. Many drivers I know have deleted their def systems and haven't had any issues. Cant get away with that in California though.
In my Colorado’s 2.8 Duramax I just use the cheap stuff from Walmart. I always look for the newest manufacture date. Been using it for 4 years. Never had an issue. I store a 2.5 gallon jug in my closet under a blanket so it’s a pretty stable environment. I just don’t think there is a whole lotta difference between GMs version and Walmart’s.
After four years you need to pull your DEF injector and I bet you will find that the hole is bolts to on the SCR is almost completely plugged up with only a small hole left in the white build up for the DEF to get through. The DEF injector is easy to pull and check.
@@ramecodiesel8271 who cares? I’ve ran the cheap stuff in my Ram for 226,000 miles and no issues. J/s
I use Wal-Mart DEF in my 2.8 and now in my 3.0. Have know problems. There is a youtube channel i watch Wal-Mart DEF same company that makes Blue DEF.
What is the price difference between the 2 brands?
@@mp5kfisher241 price varies upon where you buy the non Walmart stuff. The Walmart stuff should be priced the same across the country.
I literally learned nothing from this video other than DEF has a shelf life and a temp max, both of which don’t seem to apply in the tank, just in the jug. Someone please explain.
Exactly. That was a lot of time to say very little.
What a rip off
I've checked for dates for years and never saw one. You never explained about the date code....
I try to get it at truck stops so hopefully it'll be fresher..
There is an entire chain of custody protocol that keeps it below 66degrees until you buy it. I have read. This is the Mercedes plan.
if i save 1000 dollars on cheap def. well then
Dude, production note...Had to turn the volume way up to hear your into speal, then got blown away...and not in a good way...but the into music. Balance your sound out! Didn't watch anymore of the vid after that.
the issues that are related to def is unreal!!!!!!!!! SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH ALL MY NEW trucks! ITS SUCKS!!! i have seen so many problems with this $h&% its unreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So if u live in the desert do u store the def in a cooler. What about the def in the truck when it’s a 120 out side for 3 months. Do I need to worry?
I'd worry. Excessive heat or cold is a problem for DEF.
You buy bulk DEF at truck stop. How do know if fresh and if it's quality Def.
Look for the date on the package.
The EPA should of kept their nose out of this stuff. Costing truckers, and light truck owners huge expenses. Just another knife in the back of the consumer to end the use of internal combustion engines. DEF was the WORST idea EVER.
ya, to the hell with the environment. Trump still lost.
lets save the environment while china is burning mountains of tires daily 🤡
The critical mistake I haven't made since 2012, is not buying any new diesel garbage.
Sounds like a money grab tbh.
Ok you talked about temperature and def the back trucks bringing it to store get really hot during summertime
I bought a diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee abouta yearand a half ago, not knowing anything about diesel believe me I just had an expensive learning lesson almost gave up on it (a couple people tried to talk me into getting rid of it) until I came across a couple of videos on def. Man if I would've seen some these prior I would've have save me thousands. Now I know it's more about maintenance. I'm on it now lol
I still want to know if I can just pee in my DEF tank since it’s more eco friendly and it will save all those plastic jugs
EGR DPF delete. And if you live in a state like Commiefornia? Sorry.
This is complete BS.
Have many diesel trucks for my business.. about 15 now. Ford, Chevy and Dodge. I have used all different DEF over the years from Blue to Tractor supply Travelers) over the years. Never an issue with the DEF Fluid. This is all non-sense! I do agree with the shelve life but as far as certain types of DEF in your truck….i’m not buying it!
So is the Walmart DEF as good as blue def sold in auto store? I’m asking sine I have a new baby 3.0 duramax yukon on the way……
DEF is DEF.
@@Pickuptrucktalk thanks appreciate the response
i use DEF as fertilizer
This sounds like a scam. Why can't we just have quality fuel? I'll bet that's why these new engines are burning more oil
No they are burning more oil because the rings are maiable metal
Because America complains and doesn't send their own to get pick it it
I can’t wait until they come out with a tuner for the 3.0 duramax. You know for the delete you can do in “Canada”.
For now I’ll pay the $30 every 3000 or so miles to keep the tank topped off.
thank you
My 2017 ram has nothing but emission problems. I absolutely hate the def system. I know people who deleted the def system and the truck gets better mpg/longer oil life.
Yes a delete is preferred I was on the edge of it and waited too long.. now it seems all the pipes, tunes and tuner companies have died off..
Can you delete the DEF sensor? I heard that this can be done and runs a thousand times better.
You need a mechanic that can bypass sensors and computer chips that will disable your vehicle. Maybe early models but very hard to work around modern setups.
The whole DEF system fucks up your truck!
It's not Def system that screws things up it's the EGR and DPF that does it.
So very true.. wish I would have known about it before I purchased my truck
@@forrestmiller4055 that's right. I love my 05 lly and all the usless emission crap is off of it.
Since it seems that most DEF components come from Russia and China, What do the self serving elites have to say about that based on current events. Any comments from the experts on that, on how the trucking industry is supposed to survive?
The US has to buy water and urea from Russia or China? Please explain.
Commercial DEF already has to meet ISO 22241 standards - what does the additional API certification ADD??!!!
So don't store above 85. And if you live in Sacramento, Phoenix, Mojave??? So how fast is deterioration in 90 to 100 quite common in these areas, especially in DEF tanks that cannot be openly cleaned? 8:00
Oh my… another DEF Fluid video. It should be just “DEF”.
I use Walmart DEF in my Colorado 2.8. A lot of Colorado and Canyon owners have gotten “DEF QUALITY” messages when they run the Blue Platinum brand DEF…. So a lot of just use the cheap stuff from Wally World.
Yep the whole "quality" thing has people very confused. When you see that you want to inspect and clean the DEF doser that shoots into the SCR box which is likely to be the culprit. The actual cleaning once the doser is off the SCR box is easy, just get a gallon of distilled water, a sprayer and a tooth brush.
How do we ensure temperature control from the vendors? Should we sniff before filling up?
Thanks for the mental image of guys walking around gas stations sniffing DEF fluid.
@12:50 API doesn't license but the API logo means the product has been CERTIFIED to meet API's standards!!!
The word license and certified have different meaning!
It is ridiculous there is not use by date you can actually read
I haven’t looked yet , but I am guessing there is a test kit to insure the DEF is still safe to use to protect the equipment.
This is no different than CARB in California. An organization just charging money for a certifications. In CA it's causing emissions parts to be 5x more than other States.
CARB invented this def crapola.
No amount of talking I DONT CARE WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT DEGREE YOU HAVE , the emissions parts and DEF is the dumbest thing ever invented other than BATTERY POWERED CHAINSAWS AND CARS. IF YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING, stop talking!
All the smog equipment reduces fuel mileage, meaning you burn more fuel , f-ing genius I got 17mpg in town w/my 2006 Ram cummins(no DEF) 12mpg w/my 2015 ram with DEF
The only mistake I could make with DEF is to buy it. 2000 F-450 4x4 dump-bed 7.3 Powerstroke 50k
Ram 2019 3,300 miles 2.5 gallons Cummins 5 tenths of a cent per mile big deal
No offense to the content, or it’s creator but I feel like someone who’s employed or affiliated with a company that represents “Americas oil and natural gas industry” will tell you every reason under the sun to do things like “not use expired DEF” which is analogous to saying throw out food past it’s best by date when when the food is actually good for longer. They just wanna geet ya to buy more of the product they profit from.
If I understand it correctly, DEF is (Urea + De-ionized water). Urea is stable in ph ranges from 4-8 ph. Water’s PH is 7. Based on what I’ve read Urea degradation doesn’t greatly accelerate until you’re beyond 150 c / 302 f. So I don’t see how storage temperatures are that important and why recommending people buy fresh DEF if they don’t treat it like hydrogen peroxide or medications.
When it comes to the concern about things like minerals, and the Biuret in degraded DEF it’s strange concerns of compounds other than de-ionized water and pure Urea seem to matter when brands like Blue DEF contain “proprietary additive package” on top of the two main ingredients. What might be in that additive package that may negatively effect one’s engine?
I’m surprised people don’t make their own DEF. If it’s like 70% de-ionized water 30% pure urea it’s like - get a reverse osmosis filter under your sink and go buy some lab grade liquid urea , and do the math on dilution for the appropriate urea concentration. Then sell your DIY DEF to other people to recoup the costs of the RO water system and urea cost.
Lol funny fact, our service trucks are 100% deleted before they leave the dealer lot, they show up to work brand new and deleted and basically run forever after that. DEF and its associated components can kiss my ass.
Omg the talking was so quiet, then the intro blasted my ears out hahah! Good vid tho
if the DEF system sprays into the exhaust, how can it so easily "destroy the engine"?? i don't get that. BOy the federal gov't could screw up a ham sandwich
I was pretty amused to hear that old/bad DEF would cause engine damage. 🤔😂
Thank you for your information. I am very grateful. What is the best DEF
So what your saying is we’ve designed a fluid your mandated to use and it goes bad its toxic and you run out your truck goes to limp mode? Sounds like the Mafia’s ultimate dream! Ahhh he’s just a cute lil redheaded guy putting his stamp of approval on fluid quality for something that tramples the consumer’s rights and destroys another chunk of our income! He should wear a pink sweater that would make it a lil more believable and call himself Bill!
The engine it doesn't work with the DEF,, what def does, is controls the emission of the engine and when is contaminated the computer puts the engine in limp mode,,
Does DEF expire at the same rate while sitting in the DEF tank in a truck you don’t drive as often?
Why not put THE expiration date on them like every jug of milk instead of a super secret code? Current code is Stupid system to the 10th degree.
I think this 80° storage doesn't makes a lot of sense, how can it be in my truck in 115°F, what is the difference? I think is more like don't store it in hot temps for extended periods of time
Why are manufacturers allowed to put the date in a code that isn’t standard even to their own company. They need to be required to put a recognizable date.