Tyranids Deep Dive - The Great Devourer | Warhammer 40K Lore
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Time Stamps
0:00 intro
2:34 Tacticus
4:00 The Great Devourer Awakens
9:58 What are the Tyranids
17:14 Tyranid Weapons
20:26 Tyranid Ground Units
32:17 Tyranid Hive Ships
40:00 What does a Tyranid Invasion look like?
56:10 Hive Fleets. A Brief History
1:10:33 What is the Hive Mind?
1:17:49 Closing Thoughts
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Uh link to Tiamat video??
I'm listening at work
Everyone else is playing a strategy game. The Tyranids are doing a chews your own adventure.
Nice 👍🏽
Lol
Ba dum tzz 🥁
I saw this and thought it had 5k likes honestly
Inshallah my friend@@Toobadsosadjimwashere
An hour and a half of Tyranid lore. What a way to end a week of work.
Seriously, doesn't get any better than this! :)
Fr I love how he fills me with 1.5 hours of cream deep inside me
Same time next year?
vlad pls let my family go
Wes really comes through.
This golden age of 40k lore masters is too good!
No matter how much the tyranids evolve, or how far they spread, they will never be able to penetrate humanity's plot armor.
what plot armor lol the imperium is at its weakest its ever been.
@texasallstar6969 that's the plot armour.its the fact they are still alive after being at its weakest
@@waihenenterprise they're still alive because two primarchs have returned lol
@@texasallstar6969your blind mate
I think we can all just deeply appreciate what it takes for him to find and compile all of this lore into Deepdives as well as the background imagery that brings his videos even more to life! Thank you WesHammer!!!
Also, does anyone know the names of the different soundtracks used throughout his video?
Anything with piano or violen is from "ghost stories incorporated" on Bandcamp. Everything else is from story blocks. A subscription site for stock videos and background music
@@weshammer Wow!!! That was a fast reply haha; Thank you so much Weshammer!
Agreed. I did a bunch of research when trying to decide which Hive Fleet color scheme I wanted to paint, and this is waaay more info than I could scrounge up.
Your so right. I'm new but have seen others .His is the best. Now I really understand them.
I was just explaining the tyranids to my coworker because he was interested in space marine 2. A few minutes later, Wes does it better than I ever could lol what mad lad. Keep it up battle brother!
huff.... so you wasted the time of yourself and your co-worker?:(
@@erimo506huh?
@@erimo506if you find friendly interaction between two humans waste of time then there is some kind of problem with you
@@marcinwitkowski217 tyrabids do suck, but dont be mad
You would think that by this point, Tyranids would have evolved to get their energy from stars (suns). It would be much more cost effective because they wouldn't take any losses.
My personal headcanon is that the Great Game was made for 5 players, but malice didn't really want to play, so the God Emperor is the game's NPC fill in, and the Tyranids exist as the turn counter/timer until the game ends
Ngl.. That's pretty good
Wow.
It's a 5 player Stellaris game and the Tyranids are the Crisis.
Like R-rated civ
I really like the lore bits around Hive Fleet Cronos. They mainly use psykers, ranged bioforms and artillery because any battles against Chaos are a net loss for the 'nids and it attempts to minimise loses in a total subversion of usual tyranid tactics.
When it needs to recover from it's engagements with Chaos, other hive fleets escort Cronos to defenseless worlds and allow it to consume their biomass in their stead.
That’s kinda like your sibling sharing their food during lunch break because you didn’t bring any…but with a big side helping of genocide
That’s… actually really nice of them. Weird.
@@Soldier0 It's like being nice to yourself tho.
Just like many ant species IRL. Many of them have soldiers ants that can't feed themselves so they rely on workers ants to feed them. The workers can fight too but they are obviously not optimized for that job.
@@belafeldbusch3397nah there not related it's like cells of a body if you want an example it would be closer to red blood cells supplying the immune system with nutrients to fight off infections
"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only food." This was an *epic* line to close on- well done. The manic nuttery of the orks make them my first love in the setting, but nids are awesome- I love them as the ultimate expression of evolution, just natural process run to its utter apogee. (And if they are ever explained away as an engineered bioweapon I will riot.)
I like the theory that they’re running from something 🏃♂️
@@vc8538The fact they're coming from the _other_ direction as well kinda disproves that.
I mean they've got to be bio engineered because if they evolved naturally they wouldn't have had enough biomass to get into space.
@@JohnSmith-tt3go If they're truly primordial they could have evolved without even being on a planet, at one point billions of years ago the entire universe was warm and dense.
Why would it be bad if they are a bioweapon? That would only be bad if they are still just a bioweapon for an even more powerful species. But them having started as a bioweapon that got out of control and simply consumed their creators would be a very cool and very likely origin for them.
As someone just got into warhammer and is to lazy to read all the book, thank you. I love these hour long lore deep dives. The tyranids are my favorite faction. Love your channel. May the god emperor’s light shine on you.
I'm really glad you enjoy them! Hope you're having a great day! 🙂
Majorkill did the nyds dirty saying that no matter what they couldn't take terra, but I'm so glad that you actually give them the respect they deserve. They are so amazingly terrifying and only you and Leutin do them justice. Thank you Wes!
majorkill is right tho
If they take terra, the storyline takes a nosedive. Unless the want to turn 180 and make a story where humanity abandons terra for a new planet.
Majorkill is right only because of plot Armor. Without plot Armor, terra would be another platter on the buffet of the Milky Way.
@@TonklinFallen Not really the tyranid are overhyped lmao, the invasion of baal proves their ego can sometime be more important than being strategically efficient
@@zettgundam6317Nah. plot armor. Enough said. It's why everyone not humans are depicted as weak and incapable that the humans can easily deal and cope with. And remember, the humans are pretty much fighting every other factions at this point.
What is super terrifying is that it has taken the Tyranids around 400 years to reach the middle of the Milky Way. This is 50,000 light years so an average speed of 125 light years per annum.
Given that setting off the Pharos device around 10,000 years ago in M31 is the canon reason for the Tyranids coming to the Milky Way that gives them a travel distance or 1,250,000 light years. Even factoring 10% tolerance for error the furthest away they came from is 1,500,000 light years.
Why is this terrifying? Well, the nearest true galaxy to the Milky Way (Barnard’s Galaxy) is 1,760,000 light years away. Therefore the Tyranids had already reached the satellite mini galaxies of the Milky Way and given they are coming from above, below and both sides
in M42 they must have already surrounded the Milky Way before the Pharos device was triggered.
They are everywhere. They are legion. They are coming.
Drums. Drums in the deep.
You and Luetin really do an excellent job of conveying the lore to a much larger audience without being a smartass (looking at you, MajorKill). I dare say this is way more entertaining than the billion dollar failures Hollywood craps out. Love from The Netherlands and keep it up.
As fellow dutchman i can only agree with those words 💪🏻💪🏻
Funny how you see him as smartass and in my eyes he is more like clown
Majorkill a smartass? But he is dumb AF
I do enjoy both of them tho. Majorkill Is the guy Who got me into Warhammer 40k, but i do like weshammer too
I agree. Can't stand majorkill.
I think the scariest Tyranid is Cyrax. He's got bugs crawling on him, he wields a stylus covered in his own poop, and his rage would make korhn think he needs anger management.
Ok :(
Bro what?
*Cyraxx
Lol wouldn't he be a green skin that for some reason follows Nurgle as a well regarded shaman of a sort.....
Everywhere I go I see his name
Tyranids make Necron look like the last hope in 40K Universe
Yup, the Necrons seem to want to rule. They do exterminate but they still have something of an ego. They don't want to see their tomb worlds turned into goo. After all, what point is there in ruling over baren empty rocks? I think the problem comes down to trust and bias.
Well Necrons kinda are... they once close the warp, and now Szarekh are number one enemy of the Tyranids. It would be kinda poetic. They lost their bodys and become artificial to get imortality, then they kind use imortality to preserve mortality from their biological ever evolving predator lololol.
I think it would be cool if the Old Ones left some horrible weapon designs in the Orks DNA but that knowledge was locked until now because nothing put up enough of a fight for the Orks to need it.
@@channelsofash
Nah, because Golden Age humanity was such a powerhouse that Orks didn't even bother fighting them. It was too one-sided it wasn't even fun for the boiz.
Wes! You killed it this time! Thank you so much! This video definitely deserves more likes, stay healthy
The reason why I love Tyranids the most is because their capabilities are only as limited as the things they can eat and absorb, which is limitless. They're like chaos factions, but not bound to worship or motives of the Chaos Gods. And no, I don't count the Tyranid cultists which are just wololo'd human pawns that can merely grasp the idea of hive mind let alone being a part of it. Every other faction needs to work real hard just to act in unity while they're just one big mind altogether. I'd say the center or the living embodiment of the hive mind is stronger, wiser and older than the God Emperor himself since nobody knows their origin and keep in mind that they entered the 40K universe from ALL angles, which means they're multidimensional and have knowledge of god knows how many other universes and beings waay beyond the comprehension of even the big G. They're not unholy, they're not holy. They just are. An ever-evolving hive mind with ever-evolving, endless swarms of biological tools.
They entered the milky way galaxy from multiple angles, not the universe. As far as we know they are from this universe, just not from this galaxy. Which is still absolutely insane.
I like Tyranids becouse i like the zerg and the IDEA of BE the hive mind behind it.
This toghter with D&D when i aways liked to be the necromancer or summoner. To be the mind behind the pets. Like human intellect behind strong beasts fascinate me.
You know, I in a literal way, genuinely believed that the w40k universe actually exist somewhere out there, or it could be our actual future. I don’t know, is it just me? Because that’s what I’ve been telling myself for almost a decade now ever since I discovered Dark Crusade, which introduced me into the 40k universe. Considering how undoubtedly limitless our universe and our reality’s entire existence is, I am highly convinced that there are, or at least in some way, do infact exist.
@@ArantyrDarkhandwithout Nids there would be no zergs
@@marcinwitkowski217And without the arachnids from stsrship troopers, or xenomorphs from aliens, there would be no tyranids
One thing to note is that since Kronos doesn’t get much or any biomass with fighting chaos, leviathan will actually be nearby and give a portion of its biomass to help replenish their losses. Which to me seems like leviathan considers Kronos a valuable asset in order to make the invasion and consumption of planets easier without the interruption of chaos.
I love these deep dives. Factions like the Tyranids and Flood have always been fascinating to me. There is something about the manifestation of mortality for seemingly god like races that is both terrifying and beautiful.
I played tyranid too. Made my own splinter fleet: Barghest, had a focus on psychological warfare, attacking preferably in the dark, with dark colouration but with markings down the centre of their carapace, making them seem much more numerous than they were when attacking, hit and run (was the intention) tactics use of howls in the night, keeping their prey alert until they are too exhausted to fight at full power...
Almost always lost my matches but i liked the splinter i had created.
Yeah even in universe this combat style would be very niche, but great concept
One of the scariest things to me about the Nids is their pure ability to adapt to everything
If you fly - they will grow wings to catch you
if you have tanks/armor - They'll adapt and shoot shit to chew through it
If you use Titans - They'll grow shit out of your nightmares to touch you
If you hide - they will find you
where can i find further information about what happens when faced with titans?
@@fabulamcafee the best way to think about how they would react to things like titans is by realizing that donuts answer to if you fly is wrong
if you build walls and hide on mountains it will grow wings and dig to make the walls and mountains irrelevant
while your planes best solution will be turning the engines air intakes clogged by spores until they can no longer work
titans will depends how large until biotitans can no longer work and they disappear
the nids will be gone and the titans will think they have won and walk and then the ground will collapse beneath them as the nids have turned the earth into honeycombs that cant support them
the nids wont respond in kind, they will solve the problem and evolve the solution onto the world
@@ashardalondragnipurake
His Answer was definitely more of a humours giddy than a serious answer (I think the joke may have flown over your head)
@@subzero1658 the question came after the answer
was just using the original post as a reference
@@subzero1658 im low iq and without education. can promise i have read his answer 3 times, so his energy was not wasted.
the honeycomb ground as a trap is something im glad to hear specially when visualizing such extreme forces clashing together.
For most factions : "I the grim darkness of the far future there is only war"
Tyranids : "Neat, an all you can eat buffet"
Underrated comment lol
Crazy fan theory:
The Great Devourer is the 5th C'tan, the Outsider.
He is said to have spent the War in Heaven "consuming" all life he encountered, including his C'tan brethren and to be in his presense would drive any sentient insane (Shadow in the warp?).
When the Necrons turned on the C'tan, shattering three and killing one, the outsider fled the galaxy, never to be seen again.
The Outsider is listed among the C'tan shattered alongside the rest, dozens not just four. You're citing outdated lore. Also, the C'tan are completely material beings and are unable to utilize warp energy. Very much unlike the tyranids which extensively use a warp based presence. The C'tan can influence the minds of mortals, but this is not a warp based ability.
Yeah….. its a crazy fan theory for a reason. Let’s just have it stay that way
Counter-point to the Bellisarius Cawl reference: in Devestation of Baal, a Blood Angels ship finds a planet, quite literally stripped of everything, even down to anything within the planet's make-up that the Hive fleet would find usable.
I think the level of scrutiny within its feeding depends on the Hive Fleet.
Man I gotta say as noob dipping his toe into the lore with an appetite that mirrors the tyranids you make some incredibly in depth videos. You really do your homework and provide so much info. Thank you for your time and dedication 🙏 keep up the amazing work my man thank you.
Wes you have no idea how nice it is see this video so freshly released while looking for something to listen to while I do college work.
Thank you.
Tyrannids are my favorite.
I've been waiting for this.
10/10 masterpiece
Thank you Wes
This is a great video
The very hungry definition of "what's yours is mine" and then some.
I fking love these things conceptually.
I love me some bug lore. Never stop never stopping. ❤
The tyranids are the embodiment of axiology. Great video.
What's axiology?
4:38 missed the opportunity for a great line like, "For the Tyranid, in grim darkness of the far future, there is only FOOD"
Keep watching 🙂
As a 30+ year veteran (the OG Tiamat) we have to salute you, sir. Was particularly happy to see the brief mention of some of the "retired" bioforms. We will be watching your video of Tiamat next, friend.
Honestly I'd love just a story about the Hive mind, love the little snippets of the vast emptiness and indifference towards it's prey
Know it's not going to happen, certainly not any decade soon, but the more psychologically dynamic perspective sounds fun - more so than some basic detective novel
Ya I agree! The tiny little snippits we get where we just brush the surface of its mind are super creepy and enjoyable reads!
I can remember a snippet where the hive mind basically possesses a gaunt and it stares with unbelievable hatred at a the main character. From that I got the impression the hivemind totally cares. It's just that it absolutely HATES other lifeforms and wants to extinguish them all. You do not see this conscious malice in single creatures usually. But that is probably just because the hive mind is busy devouring or preparing to devour 100 worlds at once at any given moment and does not have time to give every mortal its full attention and hatred.
My favorite aspects to focus on are when the giant hungry space bugs do anything that isn't eatting. Growing and cultivating an unknown thing in a space system? Evolving to fight chaos while getting leftovers from other hive fleets? Anything off the beaten track is really fascinating to me!
56:09 I always had a problem with nids not consuming the whole planet but now I'm just gonna make it my headcannon that nids leave some of the planet alive so it's ecosystem can recover and be consumed again
Somewhere, on an impossibly distant and ancient world in a galaxy long forgotten by the universe, lies the buried remains of a truly alien laboratory.
And a single, broken test tube covered in scratch marks.
I wish bigE could get a look at tyrranids as he created the astartes, imaging how much he could have improved them using the genitic knowledge of the hive mind.
Tbh I'm curious if a means to attack the hive-mind directly will occur.
The Imperium is already aware of synapse-link the Hive-Fleets use to communicate and that it can be compromised either by killing the monster or with a strong enough psyker to imprint false information. How if there was a way to implant codes within the nids that would activate once absorbed into the hive mind, actual lasting damage could be done to the tyranids.
(This has been one of their noted weaknesses... the Tyranids are so obsessed with eating biomass they don't actually check what they are eating. The Hive-Fleet that Farsight's Enclave beat was baited into consuming poison that broke them down at a cellular level and the Tyranids couldn't adapt to it, likely because it infected the Norn Queen first.)
@@Makorze I assume the hive mind has a origin point, like a super norn queen, the size of a planet.
@@eiric6958how I understand it is that it’s a gestalt consciousness from all the Nids coalesced into ‘one’ with higher order nids influencing/contributing more. Much like l eusocial insects such as ant or bee colonies (where even queens are following the collective instinctual urges and hormonal signals from drones and workers) but ramped up and psychic
@@gideonmele1556 Having a colossal superbrain does sound pretty useful, so they might have some of those anyway.
That is the most heretical thing I have ever heard. I am not even in the empirical cult, but this offended me.
Tyranids sounds so op until you realize the necrons exist which the tyranids try to avoid.
Holy Throne, this was an excellent video. Life me me spread it out over a few days, but I loved this one. Stupendous work, Wes! Thanks so much.
One of the things I like most about the new Tyranid codex is the piece of flavour text that suggests that it is likely that the Norn Emissaries and Norn Assimilators are actually parts of the greater mass of a Norn Queen that separate off to perform that Norn Queen's will, and by extension the will of the Hive Mind, in a warzone before returning and reconnecting to the greater mass after the mission is compete (should the Norn Emissary or Assimilator be killed or captured, the Queen just grows a replacement as part of her body). It is as if a human could separate their appendix, gall bladder, or some other organ from the rest of their body and send it off to run errands. It makes for a very strong and creepy image as the Norn Emissary or Assimilator is a true extension of the Queen's will, and it is the Norn Queen's own unknowable alien sentience that watches its prey through these creatures' eyes. It also explains why these critters behave as they do and pursue their own 'missions' that don't reflect how the rest of the Swarm fights its wars - if a Norn Emissary or Assimilator comes after you, you have been singled out for special attention by the higher forms among the nightmare cosmic horror space bug monsters, and that is not a good thing for you at all...
Man; In the grim darkness, there is only...War.
Tyranids; In the grim darkness, there is only ...Food.
Love this quote !!
Tyranids can also be seen as a futuristic evolution of a similarly powerful species found in Magic The Gathering. They are known as Slivers. Very formidable, causing fear in even very powerful Plainswalkers. There are also the consumers of Plains, the Eldrazi. Like the Tyranids, the Eldrazi leave entire Plains void of anything. So the Tyranids might be running from the Warhammer 40k version of Eldrazi.
Thank You! This! This was what I was asking about! Bringing the game and stories together! Thank you!
I'm an outsider... during my last military orders I worked with two Army Sgt that played regularly... And the boxes and boxes of pieces - were awesome!
After watching a bunch of Kurzgesagt videos on the immune system, it's become my view that the best way to think of Tyranids is akin to an intelligence guided immune system
with an intellect like this there isnt much to do but extend it and bring everything together into the harmony of the swarm
“Hive fleet Hydra is like an antibody killing corrupted cells”
Me, who has treated them as a cancer in headcanon:……
Honestly I hadn't thought of that. That's also an interesting way of interpreting them! Like they aren't actually a positive thing in the hive minds eye. Like they are a corrupted mutation
@@weshammer thanks
Love the deep dives. Want one like this for each faction. Very well done. You got me into more of the lore with this video and I have started my journey into warhammer. Picked up the leviathan box and bunch of supplies to start.
I know it might not happen, but I really, really want to see an Inquisitor and thier Acolyte traveling the Galaxy in a remake of the cartoon MIB intro. The really awsome intro thats stuck in everyones heads.
Love the work, Wes! Time to pour some good bourbon, perch on the balcony, and drift off into the world of Tyranids 🎉
Finally! Me personally I've always had a hard time getting into the tyranids, never really liked them that much but I actually was able to watch this and was interested!
The main problem its that theres no books... realy. But from the last ones we probably will see more intresting things, after all the hive mind can feel stuff. Like getting pissed at the food fighting.
Many thanks for this comprehensive video! I plan to watch it many times!
Hell yeah!!! I was literally just looking for a lore deep dive like this on the tyranids yesterday! Perfect!
When you describe them "giant, psychic, alien, space dinosaurs", it makes me want to go build an entire hive fleet. As a teen, after painting and playing some CSM, I started looking at other factions; and whether it was the utter alien nature of them, or just teenage angst, Tyranids were the next faction I looked at (yea, the dark eldar are the apex of angst, but I wasn't into dark elves back then). Now I'm 40, and still looking at them like "damn, I need to build a hive fleet", and the biggest obstacle that I can see is my inability to choose a color scheme.
People like to think who would win, the Zerg or the tyranids.
I dont want them to fight simply because I know one would win, and the result would be too much to anyone to handle.
The tyranids would provide the zerg with the numbers to actually zerg rush a galaxy, while the zerg would provide the tyranids with
better FTL.
Not to mention the plethora of DNA to spin new warrior breeds.
Thank you for this Deep Dive it made me love the space bugs even more, I have always been a fan of the Tyranids ever since I discovered them leading me to the rabbit hole known as Warhammer 40k
Me: i now know of all the horrors in the galaxy.
40k: BUT IM NOT DONE YET!
The fact that these dudes make both alien and the Zerg look like little mites. Also i like to think they also strip the planet of important minerals as well, leaving the planet a dry husk
They take everything including the athmosphere. rock or basic carbon lets, becouse precious minerals are take too.
well the zerg actually were heavily inspired by tyranids, as starcraft originally was supposed to be a wh40k game
@@MrWarCraft3Fan Much like how I think Warcraft was heavily inspired by or originally supposed to be a fantasy Warhammer game.
I think it's kind of funny how Wes was talking about the misconceptions players have about the Tyranids being controlled by a single intelligence when the Tyranids are actually just a part of the same organism, because the Zerg were controlled by a single intelligence (the Overmind and then later on Kerrigan).
True IRL hive species like ants or bees don't have a single entity controlling the actions of a hive/nest, instead relying on communication with pheromones and movement amongst individuals that then dictates the actions of the whole group.
@@ArantyrDarkhand rock or carbon lets indeed. I absolutely agree on the fact that becouse precious are take too.
@@SordidusFellatioYeah but its important to say... its not a deep strip. Its a superficial strip. Like its seen in Cawl book.
It will leave the planet baren but caves underground stuff remain.
While I'm not a fan of the tyranids, to see you put this much time into this video tells me I need to hear this.
I've only been watching your videos for about a year now but I'm new to the 40k universe. Your videos are incredibly informative and I feel that, like yourself, I'm more intrigued by the novels and lore. With that said, I'm looking for a good book to start with. Would anyone mind making a recommendation?
And could we possibly get a raven guard video if you haven't done one already? Thanks.
It really depends what you're interested in the 40k books are like comic books. You can jump in anywhere.
My beginner recommendations would be
-ciaphas Cain hero of the imperium (if your look for something fun)
-the nightlord trilogy (if you want a story about the bad guys that's super dark)
-the Uriel ventras series (if you want a great straight up space marine story)
-gaunts ghosts series (if your more a fan of human perspective and like military fiction)
-the dark imperium trilogy (if your more interested in the most recent stuff in the timeline)
-the Inquisitor series (my personal favorite. A great smaller story set in the 40k universe, great for people who like detective and/or heist storys or want to know more about the inquisition)
All that said, the main advice I always give is to pick a faction you think looks cool, than look up and grab a book based on them. You'll have more fun if your actually interested in the characters🙂
Hope that helps!
@@weshammer necrons, it is then. Thanks
Oh if you want necrons than read infinite and the Devine for a fun read about trazyn and his rival orikan. Or the twice dead king for a more serious necrons story
I love your deep dives into factions. Something I'd like to see you cover is the relationship between necrons and tyranids. Also, you sparked my curiosity about outdated units that don't have a modern equivalent and I'd be interested to see you dive into those units we don't really see or hear about any more from all the factions.
Always love these long form videos, great stuff! 👍
After listening about hivefleets
It sounds like hive mind is just testing things out for ultimate assult
Which sounds cool, i know this might not be the case but i like to think that hivemind is testing universe for what there is and then with perfected force
They come for feast
Tyranids are only incidentally horrifying.
Dark Eldar would render an entire sector down into fear juice just to hear a particular rival's exquisite scream.
There's no contest!
Otherwise, good stuff.
Well yeah. Even if the Hive Mind is truly sentient, it's still just doing what you would expect an animal to do (feed and spread).
Dark Eldar (as well as most of the other factions to a much lesser degree) are actually malicious.
@@malcire The thing is... from the few things we have seen in material from the hive mind ITS FAR FROM ANIMAL, it feels. Read the blood angels books in teh attack of their planet.
The hive mind its getting pissed.
But dark eldar its the race i totaly would hunt and exterminate, they dont deserve to live.
@@malcire
An interesting thing to think about:
The Nids absorb all the knowledge of the creatures they ingest. Which means they fully well know about compassion, art, charity, romanticism, etc. But the hive mind still deems these traits unnecessary to their prime directive. They understand these concepts better than any single human ever could and yet they have no need for any of it.
It always cracks me up how the word "inconceivable" is used so much in 40k lol, it is so fitting though.
Great stuff, love your lore videos. All lore, no fluff!
Halfway through this video. I just wanted to add that clearly the inspiration for Tyrannids is the H.R. Gieger monster from the movie Alien, and Gieger was probably inspired by H. Bosch paintings. But, after Gieger came the Marvel X-Men comic where we were introduced to a horrific alien race called the Brood. They closely resemble Alien, but they are winged and intelligent, with a Queen running the show. The Marvel "homage" of Alien is probably where GW got the basic design for Tyrannids. If I'm wrong, please let me know, nerds, I just know you will
You're not *entirely* wrong, but not entirely correct.
The Tyranids as they look now is not what they initially looked like.
See; Starcraft was originally intended to be a Warhammer Product, but GW said "Nah, we don't think that'll be profitable enough for us" so Blizz went off and made their own thing, incorporating some of Geiger's alien design to make the Zerg.
When GW saw how wildly popular it was they decided that to adopt some designs to try and soak up some more money they went and remodeled their Tyranids to look more like the Zerg.
@@RevokFarthisis there any material to look at how they were designed initially?
@@ynpavo Google images.
Just search first edition tyranids.
56:37 if the hive mind is this intelligent, it would make more sense to give the ecosystems she attacks a way to recuperate. This validates the hypothesis that the Tyranids are an old ones' weapon that they unleashed (or escaped) to raze the Galaxy and terraform later.
I’m pretty sure they can’t recuperate if they actually have the time to consume the whole planet
They eat everything and anything you’d need for the ecosystem to bounce back
1 she?
2 the old ones are extinct
3 there is no way the old ones created the tyranids since traveling between galaxy's takes a LONG time even with FTL travel, there's no way they sat around after the war in heaven for millions for years and then randomly decided to create them and the pharos device attracted the tyranids which implies they weren't on a path to the milky way before,halo lore and why would they even create the hive mind
It might be a cool bit of lore if a mad Old One was exiled before the War in Heaven and the Tyranids are their revenge for that exile. They have to be some form of bio-weapon since a consume all species would starve before it could evolve space travel.
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I assume their space travel came about like something akin to Phaaze from the Metroid Prime series. Essentially a living planet that took chunks of itself and flung them into space to propagate.
It wouldn't actually, the oceans and atmosphere of habitable planets contain vast amounts of essential molecules. The amount of carbon in the ocean far surpasses that in living beings whilst also containing a whole host of other essential atoms.
Considering how they travel having to make an approach through normal space and how long it would take for life to reform (far longer than it would take to clear a sector) it's just more efficient to consume and move on. Eventually through processes like super nova ect the planets will be reformed and life can occur again with atmosphere and oceans. If we talking galactic scale a wait and regrow approach simply isn't energy efficient
This is so bad ass, thanks for taking your time to make this!
This was awesome. I learned so much new stuff about Tyranids. Thanks for sharing!
So Wes would you say a terrifying crossover would be if a Tyranid ate a Xenomorph?
Edit: y'all realize I'm not asking for a comparison between the two different types of all consuming creatures but how terrifying a mix of the two would be right?
I think tyranids are leagues beyond a xenomorph
A xenomorph would be manageable with enough artillery but a tyranid Is a whole fucking league of it's own
@@sacredgearTitan: Flood(halo), Space monsters(Gunbuster), Necromorphs(deadspace), Hive(Destiny)
God: Tyranids(40k), Vajra(Macross), Demons(Doom)
Above dragon: Killiks(SW), Q'Orl(40k), Orks(40k)
Dragon: Arachnids(Starship troopers), Rachni(Mass effect), Zerg(Starcraf), Formics(Enders game)
Demon: Mantides(Skyforge), Kir'Ko, Mimics(All you need is kill), Infested(Warframe)
Tiger: Xenomorphs(Aliens), Mutant collicoids(SW), white spikes(Tomorrow war), Locusts(GOW), The blue(Blue gender)
Wolf: Hell bugs(Defiance), Mantisaurs(outerworlds),
The apperence of the biomoon makes me think we may have underestimated the size of the tyranid race.
Rather then each tyranid being a cell in the greater body, it may be that every FLEET is a cell and the biomoon is the nucleus emerging at last..
A biomoon?
@@firesidemike3846I haven't heard of them before either, but it's probably what it sounds like. A moon sized bio-ship like the death star (without the death laser, but it could have something similar, but biological) but just made out of biological matter.
Also if we just keep this thing up it could be that there's like 100s or 1000s of hive fleets 10s and hundreds of bio-moons, so maybe there's one or a few central bio-PLANETS😳 (Or something of similar size) that is like a main hub for many many norn-queens and where the hive mind is the strongest. Like established Tyranid planets.
Brother moons?
@@-AxisA- that be pretty cool
@@firesidemike3846 in the last story of the new rule book, the captin of the raven guard gets a transsmission of a fleet headed towards sanctuary, the world at the center of thebnrw tyramid imvasion.
In the middle of the fleet is a tyranid organism larger then a moon, headed straight for the planet.
Looking at it is the closest the space marine has ever come to feeling Fear..
This goes a long way to explain why they only care about eating. The great devourer's mind is so complex and infinite. They're far beyond the petty squabbles of humanity and any of the other xenos. The only one that might come remotely close is a complete Tzeench.
Tyranids really be out there like Hungry Hungry Hippos.
A bit off topic but what is your favourite gimmick units? Mine is the orks Shokk attack gun/bubble chucka because of there RNG mechanic.
I think the tyranids are about to do something so catastrophic in the lore, its going to break the galaxy like the great rift
They are reaching the sol system. Not that i can thing they can breach it in the near millenia.
The tyrinids are essentially just Mother Nature’s reaction when she gets pissed off
Absolutely stellar job, Wes! 🔥🔥🔥 keep up the great work!
Finally, my favorite faction 🫡
Same!! They are finally being added to Tacticus too. :)
Edit: Ha, and he mentions it in the video. Guess I commented too soon lol.
All I'm going to say Is...I hope they Win
When they win
That means getting stronger
When they getting stronger
That means everyone fcked
Your intro to 40k (starting Tyranids from the Battle for Mccragge) is the same of mine. I don't have my Nids anymore either, but I've always liked their lore. And your vids continue to rock, dude!
Every time I see you upload, ever since following you with 15k on tik tok you instantly make my day better and you’re always the first channel i check to see if new uploads. Thanks Wes
This has helped with a character I've been working on! Thanks, Wes!
Beautiful video. Will rewatch.
I love that "Avenge me brother" shirt, love me some Flashgitz reference.
Excellent video, been collecting/playing Nids for 25ish years, this does do us justice.
Nice. Love these long in depth videos.
Thank you, Wes! Thank you for the blackstone and scroll and gold. I was so happy when your code still worked. Thanks man!
Dude, are you even human. The amount of content and the quality of said content is top freaking notch is insane. Don't forget to sleep and eat once in a while brother.
Haha thank you very much! My mode of operation currently is to spend like 2-3 weeks working none stop everyday then take a whole week or so off to rest.
@@weshammer well deserved week!
One part THE THING, one part Xenomorph, and a dash of Yuuzhan Vong. Splendid!😳
Oooooh that close gave me the good tingles. Nice work Wes!
Yes yes yes! You did it again Wes! Great video about the bugs, keep doing these extend lore videos!
Bring the noise shirt came in and it is solid quality and looks kickass. Good work!
Missed you Wes :) Glad to see you appear in my feed again!
Appreciate your way of explanation that can be engaged with at any level. You don’t talk negatively about your fans or other channels. You just continue on making great content.
I just like Warhammer and talking about it with other people who are also interested in all things grim dark 🙂
Nahh, he definitely talk negatively about his fans when he got called out for spreading misinformation from overly doing the memes, back then when he was still doing those YT shorts. He made sarcastic remarks for months on end, for like 15 videos straight and on all intros of all of those videos 😂 man is the pinnacle of a guy that gets butthurt then stores it in for a whole year 😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the weekly uploads
This is the actual best thing to have opened UA-cam to see
I've always liked Tyrands but till now didn't realize how complex they are :) Thank you for such a cool video
39:48 The way you say "JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!" was, like...the perfect delivery. had me laughing my ass off.
If I may make a suggestion for a future video, you should make a reverse Horus heresy video. You have the in depth knowledge, the passion, and appreciation for literary know what’s to give us an amazing story.
Great Insights. Thank you for sharing!