Couple things. 90% of all vehicles including gassers have a crankcase breather. 99% of people have never changed lmfao. Number 2 it's a Ford power stroke. Everyone knows they are trash. Cummins is it's completely own company and only make engines so they can research a lot more then most. Duramax is a sub company and still made by Chevy. Duramax last along time but have cooling issues like all GM's. 1.9 and 1.6 VW diesels last forever as well. P.s. most semis and trains actually use Cummins. BNSF uses a 9.6L in push trains and a 12.7L in pull trains.
The new ones? Sure. A lot of older ones aren't that way though lol. Sure every engine has a weakness, but something like the 5.9 12v Cummins surely doesn't require much parts replacement if taken care of.
You can’t just delete the filter you have to do a reroute kit with either an internal/ external or no catch can. Crankcase pressure doesn’t affect running but excessive pressure is hard on the motor and seals. Since my truck has a reroute hose routed next to driver wheel well it has a small amount of smoke that comes up depending on load and temperature. Doesn’t bother me at all, I’d rather know my motor is happy.
A catch-can will keep the majority of oil and contaminants out of the crankcase filter. I run the Mishimoto unit on my '19 and it has worked very well. I empty it at every oil change and it has massively increased the lifespan of the crankcase filter since the filter only needs to catch the super fine stuff that gets past the Mishimoto. It's like putting a dust extractor in line with your shop vac. Filters last way longer when they only have to deal with the little stuff.
@@danteinouye6098 sorry for the late reply but yes. Those are fun when mounted on a Edge. I prefer to drop the engine, I find it easier to work on. Some guys in my shop have done water pump on 3.5 on Edges without dropping engine but removing the front cover is a pain. On other cars like Explorer and Taurus are a lot easier, they have more space.
On a random side note. Volvo's from the mid 1990's to late 2012's in turbo or non turbo models are ungodly reliable for 500,000+, but the one thing that will kill them is the crank case filter box. Once that clogs it blows the oil seals and the motor is done. Excessive crankcase pressure is no joke.
I've noticed so many people also neglect replacing their fuel filters. They go over twice as many miles as is recommended and don't replace it until it until it becomes an obvious problem. And then wonder why their fuel pumps go out prematurely.
My Ford Dearer is slacking. They have been servicing my work reuck for years. And now, with 120k on, I don't think ever been replaced. I tell them to fix anything that need fix. If my truck down I'm down and im loosing more money they it would cost to fix it.
It depends on the shop. If guys aren't up on their factory training, they will overlook things. Also, some places will get so fed up trying to do their job,that the give up. " don't even bother trying sell that, no body goes for it".
That job clearly doesn’t pay well, I can assure you if it did, it would be changed if not changed definitively charged for anyway and fucked in the bin
Thanks, I learned something new. I don't currently have one of these trucks, but now I know of this issue. I'll be on the lookout when I start looking for one next year.
Smedding Diesel Internal catch can/bypass kit. I put them on before 20k and never have oil leaks. I have about 20 of them over 200k. I run another 30 or so that are around 100-150k miles. I only have one truck that we bought used with 40k 0n the clock that blew out upper and lower oil pan gaskets. Thats just my take but they work for us.
I like do update them with the f ccv part #. It’s no longer a serviceable filter but there’s a tsb out for excessive crankcase pressure and replacing the old ccv with the updated one
I have a 2017 with 161k and nowhere near that pressure. Not sure if it has ever been replaced. Every 50k I have every fluid and filter replaced, so maybe they did it then.
Question that I hope you see. I am considering deleting the crankcase filter, but I keep hearing that without the vacuum from the engine you’ll cause engine problems down the line. Any merit to this?
And by it being plugged it can cause oil leaks Galore (including upper oil pan gasket) and yet in the service interval from Ford Motor Company there is no recommendation until 100k
@@mkalogero1983 they won't make money in dealerships if your truck is running perfect 😂🤣 if that filter goes bad you also get leaks from valve cover gaskets specifically from driver side one witch is pain in the assembly change it my F350 has 170k miles I'm replacing both sides by next week dealership in Arizona only changed one glow plug out of 8 in 170k miles 😂🤦
when they came out with the 4.0 v6 in the exploders in the early to mid 90s engines the crank filter would plug up and push oil out of all the seals. warranty total engine re seal. paid like 14 hours, engine out in 20 minutes!
And why was this needed? Does the crank case pull in fresh air that needs to be filtered? Last time I checked the intake filter sufficed for it pulled/pushed from the intake. Mass confusion
So wait a minute! I have a 2013 powerstroke and it has the non filter CC housing. So if this non filter housing is the better one of the 2, then why did they go to a filter type?
Ok I have a 2013 that does the same thing replaced the crank case filter and it still builds pressure in the engine, reading 4psi of pressure, using a cap I modified to see how much pressure is being made, while reving and at idle 1psi, so then I thought maybe it’s putting boost into the engine so I removed both up pipes to the turbo to take it out of the equation, and it still makes pressure in the crank case. So now I’m at the conclusion of either broke piston rings but my dilemma is that it runs to smooth and no smoke. So right now idk what to consider
Ford infinite wisdom. Put a carbon filter for the crank case fumes, to protect the environment, by clogging up, and pushing the engine oil past the seals, and pissing oil all over the place.
What if I don't have any excessive crank case pressure? I saw about this some time ago and was told to check the same way. It doesn't move the oil cap and I have almost 115k on it. I have a new ccv coming soon.
Diesels are just not worth the cost these days, I went with the 7.3 Gasser in my 550, and could not be happier. Oil change and air filters pretty much all I need to do replace
I might take it out ff once. Drill a slew of holes through it and re in stall. I bet it's expensive to replace. So I would drill it so it would not clog again, drive on with a grin
Didn’t realize this was a thing until my dads truck started throwing a code for the turbo. Oil got into the turbo and it ended up needing to be replaced.
Some are not serviceable and must have the whole assembly replaced. More money than the serviceable one but still cheaper to maintain that than replace silicone on upper pan when it blows it out
I'm not sure if I dislike this on Ford because Ford designed it on there and not a better way. Or if it's because Ford has enough blowby that it needs a ventilation system like this.
I’m starting to realize why diesel engines last forever. You have to replace every damn part every 15-30k miles.
Just fords, Duramax and dodges last forever with minimal maintenance
@@ethanreid3906 Tell that to the 1.9TDi VAG fanboys
@@ethanreid3906no lol
Couple things. 90% of all vehicles including gassers have a crankcase breather. 99% of people have never changed lmfao. Number 2 it's a Ford power stroke. Everyone knows they are trash. Cummins is it's completely own company and only make engines so they can research a lot more then most. Duramax is a sub company and still made by Chevy. Duramax last along time but have cooling issues like all GM's. 1.9 and 1.6 VW diesels last forever as well. P.s. most semis and trains actually use Cummins. BNSF uses a 9.6L in push trains and a 12.7L in pull trains.
The new ones? Sure. A lot of older ones aren't that way though lol. Sure every engine has a weakness, but something like the 5.9 12v Cummins surely doesn't require much parts replacement if taken care of.
This seems to be one of the few mechanic pages that makes worthwhile shorts
Yes
I like this guy a lot. He knows his shit abt these fords
agreed, all the info in a short and his accent sounds cool as well
One of the few mechanics on youtube shows you important/useful tips. Most of the youtubers give you either redundant or useless tips.
He sure Hates Fords 🤣🤣🔥🔥
And that my friends is why your top oil pan gaskets start leaking also… if it’s leaking check for excessive Crankcase pressure. God Bless the 6.7!!!
God bless the 6.7, it sure as hell needs it!
Just delete the egr, rerout ccv to exhaust, tune it and send it to the moon
Send 6.7's to the afterlife where they belong. They'll be in a better place.
I tried to find mine then I remembered I threw that in the trash 😂😂
Does it run fine without the filter? Any negative side effects?
You can’t just delete the filter you have to do a reroute kit with either an internal/ external or no catch can. Crankcase pressure doesn’t affect running but excessive pressure is hard on the motor and seals. Since my truck has a reroute hose routed next to driver wheel well it has a small amount of smoke that comes up depending on load and temperature. Doesn’t bother me at all, I’d rather know my motor is happy.
I enjoyed this comment.
I did the same thing when the truck only have 3k almost new I am at 42k now with o issues
@@busterscrugsthere is some possible side effects. You want the crank case to be in a vaccum to reduce oil consumption AND increase ring seating.
Everything, REPLACE EVERYTHING.
"JK, ya don't hafta pull the engine"....Hahaha
Pull the cab actually. LOL
A catch-can will keep the majority of oil and contaminants out of the crankcase filter. I run the Mishimoto unit on my '19 and it has worked very well. I empty it at every oil change and it has massively increased the lifespan of the crankcase filter since the filter only needs to catch the super fine stuff that gets past the Mishimoto.
It's like putting a dust extractor in line with your shop vac. Filters last way longer when they only have to deal with the little stuff.
0.00% of us thought you were kidding about removing the engine 😅
No jokes but after having to deal with a water pump leak on a 3.5 mounted on a Edge at this point I wouldn’t be impressed if Ford made it that way…
@@Pl4gue.D0ctor oh yea thats the pump thats timing chain driven right? Behind timing cover?
@@danteinouye6098 sorry for the late reply but yes. Those are fun when mounted on a Edge. I prefer to drop the engine, I find it easier to work on. Some guys in my shop have done water pump on 3.5 on Edges without dropping engine but removing the front cover is a pain. On other cars like Explorer and Taurus are a lot easier, they have more space.
Oil pan gasket on 2002 Toyota tundra… Step one drained the oil. Step to remove the engine. 💀
On a random side note. Volvo's from the mid 1990's to late 2012's in turbo or non turbo models are ungodly reliable for 500,000+, but the one thing that will kill them is the crank case filter box. Once that clogs it blows the oil seals and the motor is done. Excessive crankcase pressure is no joke.
Thanks. I owned one and was wondering if anyone else remembered those darn Volvo crankcase filters.
I've noticed so many people also neglect replacing their fuel filters. They go over twice as many miles as is recommended and don't replace it until it until it becomes an obvious problem. And then wonder why their fuel pumps go out prematurely.
Yep
Job security
Air n fuel pretty important
Very true
My Ford Dearer is slacking. They have been servicing my work reuck for years. And now, with 120k on, I don't think ever been replaced. I tell them to fix anything that need fix. If my truck down I'm down and im loosing more money they it would cost to fix it.
It depends on the shop. If guys aren't up on their factory training, they will overlook things. Also, some places will get so fed up trying to do their job,that the give up. " don't even bother trying sell that, no body goes for it".
That job clearly doesn’t pay well, I can assure you if it did, it would be changed if not changed definitively charged for anyway and fucked in the bin
Replaced ccv box on my 2018 F350 from filter to non-filter box...👍💪💯
I don’t own or work on frisked but this guy is so dang interesting and enjoyable to listen to
If I ever have a new ford Mayson is my guy for fixing it! You know your stuff man! Thanks for educating us about it!
Didn’t even know a crank case filter was a thing
Yep emissions parts don’t like oil all in them.
It’s apparently the problem for my truck to leak oil and the repair is about $13k from dealership and they blame I didn’t change that filter
Dude that second oil cap popped like a champagne cork!😂😂😂
Thanks, I learned something new.
I don't currently have one of these trucks, but now I know of this issue. I'll be on the lookout when I start looking for one next year.
"First thing you gotta do is remove the engine.
Just kidding."
🤣🤣🤣
Smedding Diesel Internal catch can/bypass kit. I put them on before 20k and never have oil leaks. I have about 20 of them over 200k. I run another 30 or so that are around 100-150k miles. I only have one truck that we bought used with 40k 0n the clock that blew out upper and lower oil pan gaskets. Thats just my take but they work for us.
Every time I watch I learn something more and I also have a good laugh.
I like do update them with the f ccv part #. It’s no longer a serviceable filter but there’s a tsb out for excessive crankcase pressure and replacing the old ccv with the updated one
Is that why mine doesnt look like the one in the video?
blowby test, you're a diesel classic my man. great work
I have a 2017 with 161k and nowhere near that pressure. Not sure if it has ever been replaced. Every 50k I have every fluid and filter replaced, so maybe they did it then.
I was told by a diesel mechanic not to touch a power stroke that the power stroke was His #1 customer by far and expensive to fix
Don’t leave out the 11-16 strokers to. #1 cause for oil leaks on the power stroke
The 6.7L Cummins mileage is 67,500 miles on that filter. What's Ford's recommended mileage?
Thanks, dealer swapped my for the latest version
Question that I hope you see. I am considering deleting the crankcase filter, but I keep hearing that without the vacuum from the engine you’ll cause engine problems down the line. Any merit to this?
You forgot to mention ford changed the design so you have to remove the hole box that cost over $100 instead of replacing cheap $20 filter 🤦♂️
And by it being plugged it can cause oil leaks Galore (including upper oil pan gasket) and yet in the service interval from Ford Motor Company there is no recommendation until 100k
@@mkalogero1983 they won't make money in dealerships if your truck is running perfect 😂🤣 if that filter goes bad you also get leaks from valve cover gaskets specifically from driver side one witch is pain in the assembly change it my F350 has 170k miles I'm replacing both sides by next week dealership in Arizona only changed one glow plug out of 8 in 170k miles 😂🤦
@@mkalogero1983 whatever Ford reccomend cut it in half at least. Somethings even more
@@ColtonBlumhagen 🤣😂🤦♂️🤦 Gm cars I work on have the same problems with cheap quality parts
Part no. FL2077. Didn’t see it in the description
when they came out with the 4.0 v6 in the exploders in the early to mid 90s engines the crank filter would plug up and push oil out of all the seals. warranty total engine re seal. paid like 14 hours, engine out in 20 minutes!
Does the 2016 come apart like that to replace filter inside or do you replace the entire ccv box?
Do you need to do it on gas burner as well
And why was this needed? Does the crank case pull in fresh air that needs to be filtered? Last time I checked the intake filter sufficed for it pulled/pushed from the intake. Mass confusion
Hey brother can u help me out??? In market for a 2012-2018 f250. Which would u buy ? 6.0. 6.7 6.3 ? Thanks a million love the content
So wait a minute! I have a 2013 powerstroke and it has the non filter CC housing. So if this non filter housing is the better one of the 2, then why did they go to a filter type?
My man! Thanks for the tip!🙏
I have a 2017 made during Dec. of 2017, the CCF is one piece with no removable filter. Does this filter need to be replaced as stated in the video?
Ok I have a 2013 that does the same thing replaced the crank case filter and it still builds pressure in the engine, reading 4psi of pressure, using a cap I modified to see how much pressure is being made, while reving and at idle 1psi, so then I thought maybe it’s putting boost into the engine so I removed both up pipes to the turbo to take it out of the equation, and it still makes pressure in the crank case. So now I’m at the conclusion of either broke piston rings but my dilemma is that it runs to smooth and no smoke. So right now idk what to consider
Great helpful tips. Thanks
Excellent advice
The other thing is the throttle body. And if it burns oil check your valve seals and piston rings
Pull filter and gut it. Put filter housing back in truck. Remove line going to turbo and drop it down below truck
You don’t have to remove the engine, just need to lift the cab ;). Cummins guys laughing
CCV delete then you will never have to worry about it just run it to a catch can and drain it every oil change
So you'll have to recycle the system for taking out the fuel filter?
"first step you need to remove the engine"...I was laughing so much I had to watch the video again to see what he said to do. Great info , Thank you.
Do gasoline engines in general also have a crank case filters?
Is this something for a diesel engine only I've only had gasoline engines and never heard of this
It’s new Ford Diesel engines only
Bro, thats for that tip! We have a customer that just called for oil leaks on a 6.7! I really hope this fixes it!
Ford infinite wisdom. Put a carbon filter for the crank case fumes, to protect the environment, by clogging up, and pushing the engine oil past the seals, and pissing oil all over the place.
Stupid question, but does need to be checked and replaced on the 11-16 6.7s as well?
My 97 7.3 powerstroke has 260,000 and I don't have any blow-by. What is with the newer engines.
Also applies to 2011-16 as well.
Could this cause poor fuel mileage
Is there a DEF tank filter I work for a cat dealer? Every machine has a deaf tank filter in it I was wondering if Ford had one
Isn't there two types of filters
one of them you mentioned was an upgrade?
I think it was used on different years of super duties 6.7
What if I don't have any excessive crank case pressure? I saw about this some time ago and was told to check the same way. It doesn't move the oil cap and I have almost 115k on it. I have a new ccv coming soon.
Does this apply to 2011-16 trucks
Diesels are just not worth the cost these days, I went with the 7.3 Gasser in my 550, and could not be happier. Oil change and air filters pretty much all I need to do replace
I might take it out ff once. Drill a slew of holes through it and re in stall. I bet it's expensive to replace. So I would drill it so it would not clog again, drive on with a grin
Yes and you wanna fix that right away will blow your seals out of your engine
Didn’t realize this was a thing until my dads truck started throwing a code for the turbo. Oil got into the turbo and it ended up needing to be replaced.
so do i have to remove the engine or not
I've been a Ford service advisor for over 15 years. I've only been able to convince 2 customers to replace them.
Oil caps should come with a thin chain attached to them,similar to a gas cap.
Since you're pulling the underhood fuel filter to get it anyway probably a good idea to do them together.
Are there actually any good truck engines that don't cost a ton on basic upkeep...
2005 Chevy 5.3, they last forever but, can't tow much. I love my f350 but it's pretty damn costly. The correct oil alone is $100
Can you delete the filter like you can on the 6.7 Cummins?
Just got a new gas 7.3. Any advice?
Where is it I don’t see it on my truck???
What other vehicles have these?
Deleted mine at 20 k, ran a blow by catch can and line to frame. Couldn’t be happier never have to worry about it again.
FlyingWrench please start us off with the sales pitch hands 🤣
I’ve followed a lot of diesel videos, never heard of this.
My 2019 isn't serviceable? No screws to remove the cover for replacement?
Some are not serviceable and must have the whole assembly replaced. More money than the serviceable one but still cheaper to maintain that than replace silicone on upper pan when it blows it out
Depending on mileage couldn't it be blow by on the piston rings
This still an issue in 2022 trucks?
That's all well and good, but dang, worn compression rings and excessive blowby gases will pressure-up a crankcase, also.
Is that on 2012 f350s too ?? Because myne is probably way past due
Alternator wiring... more problematic... Ford... a bus pass is more reliable
At least it has a replicable cartridge, unlike having to replace the whole assembly with the injector codes on it.
Is there one on a 2011 through 2016?
Diesel only ???
The old dog learns a new trick here and there and just when you thought DPS systems were the biggest pain in the ass,. I'll keep my 7.3 and 6.0
Blowin crank main seals. Send the dipstick thru the hood
EPA officials said they had to 😂😂 my ass
I'm not sure if I dislike this on Ford because Ford designed it on there and not a better way. Or if it's because Ford has enough blowby that it needs a ventilation system like this.
I need to find the same version of this guy who works on Duramax trucks!
One more thing to replace on maintenance for your diesel. And some how a diesel saves you money?
Other video shows replacing with a vent housing with no filter inside so you never have to mess with it again.
Thank you for info
Guess you don't get to work on 03 7.3 diesels enjoy ur videos
Just vent it to the atmosphere and plug the inlet at the intake.
Real deal advice might save a blown motor or two
I would sell them the updated medium duty crankcase box that just has baffles inside instead.
Is that a Ford part? I'm gonna need to look into these, I like the idea of baffles.
It is called Blow by... Or don't buy if your not wanting a rebuild...
Dude your awesome.free game.
As the seals and gaskets age on these engines, they will most certainly have a premature end with catastrophic failure. Good job Ford!
I know this is an old video but how do you know that’s not blow by?