Super helpful video! Have you had a chance to try out the Face Impact add-on to the Mevo+? I'm curious if it helps adjust for the gear effect when hitting toe/heel shots and if the spin axis numbers will reflect where on the face the ball was struck? Or is the Face Impact a visual only tool and it doesn't change the spin axis numbers? Thanks!
So on the X3 and a soon to be Mevo + w Pro Package is the face to target (FTT) number measured/calculated at first touch and independent of gear effect or is the FTT data influenced by gear effect like the H launch number is?
FTT will be measured at first touch so gear effect will not change the FTT data. X3 is being updated to show impact position to help see a better story. Not sure how well it will measure impact but we will see.
Thank you. That is great. Means the FTT number is being measured directly (somehow). Makes sense that the next upgrade to X3 is to show impact location like Trackman is now doing. Won’t see that on Mevo + but that is ok.
@@Dan-ld3mj so these units use radar signals which have the ability to bend around objects like a club face. I compare it to a cell phone signal, say if your behind a wall but the signal still is there. This radar works the same. The fusion technology which will use the camera inside the unit to help the Radar readings separate the data between the club head, ball and any debris (divots) from one another at impact and post impact. There is a lot of activity at impact that can sometimes cause misreads and this update will help units capture better data throughout bag. The impact location on the trackman is not great and from what I see, most people don't use it. I imagine the same for my X3 unit but I am eager to see if its worth the hype. According to Flightscope the Mevo+ is close to as powerful as the X3 units. 2 main differences is the X3 is full flight tracking and the Mevo+ is limited flight tracking which means only first 40 to 50 yards of flight is tracked and rest is calculated where the X3 will read until ball lands if uninterrupted. The other thing is the X3 self levels which is key to accurate readings. I imagine one day they will upgrade the housing to the Mevo+ so that it can self level but they may not if they continue to keep a higher end unit.
@@Dan-ld3mj thanks for clarifying. I’ve been told different in past! Another reason quad may be more reliable for club data. If center strike I imagine it would be very accurate but off center hits my guess is it maybe slightly off but still reliable.
@@Dan-ld3mj I may do a video just to test this out on center and off center hits between the quad and FlightScope’s x3. This will let us know if there is a real difference between the two technologies. Glad you dug into this a little more
I believe Angle of Attack is more critical to understand but it is important to understand low point to get desired AOA. Depending on how steep or shallow you attack the ball determines your alignment to compensate which not many people don’t understand. Alignment is so important! Every club has a slight different AOA so alignment must change along with that. They all work together, the more you can understand how they tie together all this info the easier it is to diagnose why a shot does what it does. I am actually trying to build a model to demonstrate the overall picture that speaks about H plane, swing path, low point, Angle of Attack, face angle. To demonstrate an overall picture!! Thanks for watching
No difference, the purpose of d-plane is to illustrate how the spin axis and horizontal launch is created for each shot. I think it is necessary to understand what is happening at impact so a player can correctly self diagnose a shot. From experience most players put blame on swing path when the cause is club face angle (FTT) or unsolid contact. When players focus on correcting wrong thing then the problem gets worse. Sorry for confusion but no difference here , spin axis is a result of the the D-plane. In the 3D model in video you can see a blue line that runs through ball, that represents spin axis. Hope this clears things up!
Terrific video. Thank you for the explanation. Looking forward to being able to utilize this with the Mevo+ once it's released.
Thanks for watching.
Super helpful video! Have you had a chance to try out the Face Impact add-on to the Mevo+? I'm curious if it helps adjust for the gear effect when hitting toe/heel shots and if the spin axis numbers will reflect where on the face the ball was struck? Or is the Face Impact a visual only tool and it doesn't change the spin axis numbers? Thanks!
Thank you very much.
Excellent video!
Thank you!!
Thanks for this. Good information.
Your welcome!! Thanks for watching!
Very helpful;explained super,,,😊
So on the X3 and a soon to be Mevo + w Pro Package is the face to target (FTT) number measured/calculated at first touch and independent of gear effect or is the FTT data influenced by gear effect like the H launch number is?
FTT will be measured at first touch so gear effect will not change the FTT data. X3 is being updated to show impact position to help see a better story. Not sure how well it will measure impact but we will see.
Thank you. That is great. Means the FTT number is being measured directly (somehow). Makes sense that the next upgrade to X3 is to show impact location like Trackman is now doing. Won’t see that on Mevo + but that is ok.
@@Dan-ld3mj so these units use radar signals which have the ability to bend around objects like a club face. I compare it to a cell phone signal, say if your behind a wall but the signal still is there. This radar works the same. The fusion technology which will use the camera inside the unit to help the Radar readings separate the data between the club head, ball and any debris (divots) from one another at impact and post impact. There is a lot of activity at impact that can sometimes cause misreads and this update will help units capture better data throughout bag.
The impact location on the trackman is not great and from what I see, most people don't use it. I imagine the same for my X3 unit but I am eager to see if its worth the hype.
According to Flightscope the Mevo+ is close to as powerful as the X3 units. 2 main differences is the X3 is full flight tracking and the Mevo+ is limited flight tracking which means only first 40 to 50 yards of flight is tracked and rest is calculated where the X3 will read until ball lands if uninterrupted. The other thing is the X3 self levels which is key to accurate readings. I imagine one day they will upgrade the housing to the Mevo+ so that it can self level but they may not if they continue to keep a higher end unit.
@@Dan-ld3mj thanks for clarifying. I’ve been told different in past! Another reason quad may be more reliable for club data. If center strike I imagine it would be very accurate but off center hits my guess is it maybe slightly off but still reliable.
@@Dan-ld3mj I may do a video just to test this out on center and off center hits between the quad and FlightScope’s x3. This will let us know if there is a real difference between the two technologies. Glad you dug into this a little more
Do you think it’s worth it for the low point control just as much as the D plane ?
I believe Angle of Attack is more critical to understand but it is important to understand low point to get desired AOA. Depending on how steep or shallow you attack the ball determines your alignment to compensate which not many people don’t understand. Alignment is so important! Every club has a slight different AOA so alignment must change along with that. They all work together, the more you can understand how they tie together all this info the easier it is to diagnose why a shot does what it does.
I am actually trying to build a model to demonstrate the overall picture that speaks about H plane, swing path, low point, Angle of Attack, face angle. To demonstrate an overall picture!! Thanks for watching
Trying to understand how this differs from spin axis?? Any help?
No difference, the purpose of d-plane is to illustrate how the spin axis and horizontal launch is created for each shot. I think it is necessary to understand what is happening at impact so a player can correctly self diagnose a shot. From experience most players put blame on swing path when the cause is club face angle (FTT) or unsolid contact. When players focus on correcting wrong thing then the problem gets worse. Sorry for confusion but no difference here , spin axis is a result of the the D-plane. In the 3D model in video you can see a blue line that runs through ball, that represents spin axis. Hope this clears things up!