I had an uncle who was one of the Chosin Few. I had known since spending a summer with them at Ft Leonard Wood in 1965 that he was plagued with nightmares and periods of flashbacks, what we now call PTSD. A few years ago, just before he passed away, he asked me to go with him to the VFW. Over a couple of beers, he began telling me about the real horrors of that battle. Even though by then I was retired military myself, this was something he had never shared with anyone else, but knowing he hadn't long to live, it seemed he had to unburden himself. Most terribly was that he had, like Billy French, run out of ammo and came face to face with a Chinese troop who was also out of ammo. They wound up in hand-to-hand combat. He survived by strangling the Chinese soldier, squeezing the man's throat, holding the death grip while the man thrashed with all his own might, and watched the life extinguished from the man's eyes. He told me it seemed that took an eternity. He had never told anyone else about that fight.
Most of you people here are missing the deep symbolism behind it. The reason why the video paints the Chinese as horrible monsters, striking from the darkness, is because it's told from the point of view of a probably nineteen year old kid, young and fresh, who has no idea what's going on. He's been told that these men are monsters, and he's being attacked by them, in the dead of night. They're killing his friends, and he knows he needs to kill these monsters himself. Until, that is, he comes face to face with one. The scene at 2:12 is powerful, because at that point, the young kid is seeing someone probably just as young as he is, and probably wants to be there just as much as he does, which is to say, not at all. Both have been told that the other side are monsters, and both see each other as such until they come face to face in the glow of an explosion. It's when they realize that the opponents aren't monsters, they're humans too.
My grandpa fought in the Korean War and died last year and when I was little he told me this "when someone goes to war and see another enemies eyes, you will see the same horror as u did." Bishop Ramsey 1920-2015
The reason the Chinese are portrayed as inhuman monsters in this video should be obvious.The video is from the perspective of P.F.C. Billy French, a young Marine trapped in a ferocious battle. In his mind, the Chinese are viewed as evil, nameless monsters who want to kill him and his friends, so they are portrayed as such in the video. It's also why when he comes toe-to-toe with a Chinese Soldier in the middle of the video, they are both suddenly illuminated and he views this particular soldier not as a ferocious adversary, but as another young man just as scared as he was. Everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions. This is not American Propaganda, it's a video showing one perspective of the war, one of a scared P.F.C. who just wants to survive.
Jeremy Shiu The objective of the US was to stabilise the region and unite the 2 Koreas into one democratic state. The Chinese wanted to preserve their puppet in the region and inflict as much damage to the UN as possible. The Chinese achieved their goals, while the US didn't. If that's not losing, then I don't know what is.
My grand dad was one of many student soldiers in Korean War. He used to tell me not much about it, but I still remember one story. His first kill. Government told him and his friends that North Koreans were brain washed, that they would say ‘Hail Kim’ when they die. In his first battle, he shot a North Korean with his rifle. He wasn’t older than my grand pa. He was about same age. And he didn’t say ‘Hail Kim’. Instead, in Korean he began to say ‘ma’. He called out for his ma for few more minutes, and my grandpa couldn’t squeeze the trigger once more.
cause ur grandpa kill a chinese solider not n korea solider ma =mom chinese eomeoni =mom korea anyway, here a cartoon korea war u can watch ua-cam.com/video/pyvWeEdlzMA/v-deo.html
Pretty intense. I thought it was powerfully poetic during the scene where the protagonist ran out of ammo and a flare lit up as he faced the communist soldier, the enemy became human.
At its core communism is actually good but it was utilised in wrong ways by many countries, which, eventaully lead them to their downfall. As far as i can tell only Cuba is doing good. For now.
To the people claiming this is propaganda I ask this: Were you in a situation where all you were told about those you fought were how horrible they were, what kind of evil deeds they did, and that they were about to beset upon you and all those you were trying to protect: How would YOU have seen them? This is the unfortunate nature of war. Not just in the violent death and chaos, but the perceptions it creates in desperation to survive. War, by it's very nature, is two sides hateful and afraid killing each other until one is left standing.
yugijak The only wars that are stupid are the ones without a just cause. People go to war when they have no other options left. Some fight for their land, some fight to free their countries of oppressors, some fight to eliminate corruption and terrorism in their governments, some fight for equal rights etc.
The two sides have been told of the horrible deeds each other have done. Each side is afraid of the other, and see each other as monsters. So they kill the monsters. Until one side is left.
It just didn't really go anywhere. A lot of people died and in the end the borders didn't change and everyone just went back to hating each other. It's not a clear unambiguous ''good triumphs over evil'' mythical narrative like WW2, and it's not a sobering, haunting clusterfuck that ended in failure like Vietnam. It was just a textbook war. From a strategic/tactical perspective it saw a lot of interesting advancements (helicopters were deployed and gave wounded soldiers amazing survival chances, jet fighters engaged jet fighters for the first time). Two large armies engaged in relatively conventional warfare, and pretty much everyone got what they wanted (USA and their capitalist allies slow the progress of communism, China and the USSR keep a buffer state between them and a capitalist country, South Korea gets to keep its sovereignty, North Korea gets to keep hers too, etc...) You can't build a strong narrative or mythology around that war.
The real reason is because it doesn't fit the narrative. The liberal narrative seeks to portray the United States as weak, evil, etc. The fact that the United States won Korean War, coupled with the fact that the victory wasn't undone after the fact like Vietnam, makes it a positive event in US history and therefore is ignored.
When he opened his eyes, everyone around him died. He was shocked by the shells and fainted. He returned to his hometown of Shanghai scarred. He died two years after the end of the war. He was a China soldier and my grandfather.
Due to the sacrifice of US Marines in the battle of Chosin, thousands of Korean refugees were able to flee from Chosin to SK. Among the refugees, there were a young couple who successfully arrived to SK and gave a birth to a boy. The son would eventually become South Korea's 19th president
Everyone else in comments: AMERICA IS EVIL! NO! CHINA IS EVIL! NO! YOU'RE A COMMIE! NO! YOU'RE A BRAINWASHED YANKEE! A meme/historical fact right now, right here really sharply contrasts it.
Trevor Anderson in 2:09 you can See there are no communists or Yankees. Just scared humans If you are a soldier you will always fight for the right thing maybe you're on the wrong side but you will think you're on the right side. But in this moment there is no right or wrong side, only two humans , scarred nobody wants to kill ,nobody wants to die. At this moment the cover of the brutal enemies breaks and the young American can see that this isn't a monster it's a human. Sorry for bad English I just wanted to share my thoughts
Well, yes, you are right there are better sides than others but yetIf something is better it doesn´t means that it´s good between bad and worse bad is better, but it is still bad You got the sense of my comment by using "In War, Every side has it monsters" but i´d rather say that, war itself is the monster.
As one American commander said when asked if the marines were retreating at Chosin "Retreating? No, we're just attacking in a different direction." It's amazing how they were able to escape completely surrounded and outnumbered close to 10-1.
I dont really approve of any damn war that US fought side of the one for independence and the civil war. cos those two were necessary. how ever, some vietnam war for example. pointless as shit.
Laughing Tree because no country in Europe rode on the backs of others to reach their power on the world stage. Video just shows the mindset of war. Viewing the enemy as a monster who wants to kill you... And a brief moment of humanity as some men see in war. It's an impressive visual.
+Dave ฆ้องวงศ์ Yeah, they were all just kids, really, who were told that the other side is evil and expected to murder each other in cold blood based on that assumption. While communism didn't do North Korea any good, it wasn't the individual soldiers' fault.
+Vader Some of them killed, raped innocent people of Korea. And they didn't even go to stranger's land for their patriotism. I've heard a lot from Korean elders who was in that hell.... Of course there were patriotic or benevolent persons in the army! ...A few
War is one hell of a thing. Those who fought honorably deserve respect, both sides. It would be a foolish mistake to ever diminish the value of the other person trying to take your life, vice versa.
Everyone in the comments are getting all political and having a shit fest, but that animation style tho... Oh come on it looks great, can we all at least appreciate that in an artsy fartsy capacity?
kitty cat That’s what happens when people try to shove their politics in everything they see. And I’m pretty sure by now you know it’s horrendous when it happens. Politics brings the absolute worst out of people and is fueled by nothing but hate, and it’s sad to see a beautiful, amazing animation like this with a message all about everyone being human just seen as an excuse for dumbasses in the comment section to dehumanize each other more. Trying to put politics in non political things is like smearing shit on a rose.
@@pvt.jamesramirez6249 thanks buddy for explaining. Love to see people who don't really want to involve with the politics (not me rip, my friend kinda force me to be).
The more you dehumanize the opponent, the easier it is to kill them. 2:08 "You're human?!?" Nuff said. And that scene alone makes this an amazing deep animation!
bro your newest president only got in because the last one got impeached and you guys went through 3 dictators all during the same period of time as Kim Il-Sung's rule also, what about Chun Doo-Hwan's "re-education" camps?
This comments section in a nutshell 80% "AMERICAN BIAS THE CHINESE AREN'T MONSTERS USA IS EVIL REEEEEEEEEEEE" (those who missed the point of the video) 20% those who understood that the video was from the perspective of that one guy, who was probably scared shitless, which is why the Chinese/North Korean soldiers were shown as monsters, until that flare or explosion went off and he saw that other Chinese kid, who was just as freaked out as he was.
As a recently graduated US Marine, this video really got to me, what those Marines went through. And at 2:13 or something, a statement by my senior drill instructor during the Crucible came into mind that we should think about how our enemies (individual soldier) aren't always monsters.
During my Crucible in December 2015, it was 34 Degrees with a Wind Chill. We were shivering non stop. My Drill Instructor said "If you think you're cold, imagine what it was for Marines in Korea. This is a Tropical Paradise compared to what they went through."
Beautifully done. The animation, the art style, the vilification of the enemy that puts you in the soldiers boots. All the soldier sees is his comrades by his side, and the enemies in front of him. It’s not until he gets close to one that he realizes they are just another person.
@@alexkatc59 I proudly served in the United States Army during the Korean War as an artillery operations specialist in the all-black 503rd Field Artillery Battalion in the Second Infantry Division. Charles B. Rangel Me : America fought for south Korea and for democracy and some people died proudly for this cause. But we still upholded our honor of being brave and justus worth people. "I will defend Korea as I would my own country-just as I would California." - Gen. Douglas MacArthur to Dr. Syngman Rhee, president of the two-month-old South Korean Republic, October 1948
At first i wondered why the enemy army looked like an army of necromancer zombies.Then they showed that moment of humanity which i thought was both poetic and appropriate.It is often easy to forget during a war that the other side are humans too.This was a good short.
Most of the US Marines who fought at Chosin were recalled WWII vets. They all still wore the herringbone twill utilities and canvas leggings. This caused the North Koreans to call them "Yellow Legs". They feared the yellow legs and would tell fellow soldiers to avoid them.
In the Battle of Chosin Lake, three armies of the 9th Corps of the Chinese People's Volunteers engaged in a direct battle with the 10th Army of the United States Army, which had world-class weapons and equipment and distinguished battle achievements, in Chosin Lake area of Korea from November 27 to December 24, 1950, under the conditions of more than minus 20 degrees Celsius, frostbite and insufficient troops. It created the record of wiping out an entire regiment of American troops in the War against the United States and forcing the American ace force to experience the "longest retreat" in history. This battle recaptured the vast eastern area north of the 38th parallel. The simultaneous victory of the volunteers on both the eastern and western fronts changed the battlefield situation in one fell fell, becoming the turning point of the Korean War and laying the foundation for the victory of the armistice negotiations that eventually came.
We will always protect our South Korean allies. One day we will push north together and unify your country and free the innocent people of North Korea from evil.
I agree with turner. Ill gladly fight with a country, (South Korea) seeking the freedoms that every human is supposed to have. I will do my best to protect those rights even with my life on the line.
well Ukrainian is really f2ck up tho ... but cyria? why whould u wanna spport isis ... that is dumb ... America help us out becouse South korean ask for help and we had same goal get the commies.
Im here to say R.I.P grandpa, who i never meet before. He was in war and thank the god he came out alive and well but, he died in 2006 the year that i was born but he died before he can meet me, im 11 now and its hard for me not to see him. Nenad Tojagević 1951-2006
I met a Canadian Korean war veteran and he is 91 years old to this day he was earing McDonald's and I said thank you for what you did sir thank you for your service and he gave me my first salute I've ever gotten and it is so special to me
"A good soldier kills without ever thinking of his enemy as a human being,In the moment that he sees him as a fellow man he is no longer a good soldier"
i am korean Thanks to peoples who fight for our nation .our nation could saved our nation and free democracy could saved thanks for everyone fight for our nation🇰🇷🇺🇸🇬🇧🇹🇷🇦🇺🇨🇦🇫🇷🇹🇭🇳🇱🇬🇷🇪🇹🇨🇴🇧🇪🇵🇭🇳🇿🇿🇦🇱🇺🇳🇴
I’m Belgian. My grandpa came to Korea to help logistically the American. He died in 2014 and when covid showed up, our state don’t give us any mask, but my grandmother received a box of mask....for the ambassad of South Korea, thanking my grandfather for his service during the War. As our state don’t do anything, your does and just for that I respect and thanks your country. Longue live the friendship between our people 🇧🇪🤝🇰🇷
My granpa was 18 years old when the Korean war broke out. He ran away from home in North Korea to avoid getting recruited, but he was captured by the South Korean army and became a combat engineer. He said the images of bodies burnt by a flamethrower still haunts him. Poor old man passed away 4 years ago.
My grandfather who died in February 2017 volunteered for the front lines in Korea. He served two tours of duty from 1950-51. He was in combat, he got malaria, and a grenade blew up next to him and sent shrapnel into his chest, luckily it missed his heart. He lived a wonderful life and was a brave, tough old man. RIP Jesse Alberto Murga 24th infantry division, U.S. Army 1925-2017
I used to live up in Korea at yongsan. They had a museum off post dedicated to those lost in the conflict. When I heard about my grandpa serving in the Korean War I thought he was one luck bastard. He would later die of a heart attack.
My grandfather didn’t like to speak about the war. The only mention of his experience in Korea came from when he was hunting during winter in Utah with my dad. They were walking high in the mountains, treading through snow when my grandpa stopped and looked around. He told my dad, “This looks exactly like the Chosin Reservoir.” My father knew better than to ask any questions about it and they just continued walking.
My friend's grandfather was a Chinese volunteer in the battle of Chosin Reservoir. He joined the battle as a reinforcement. When he returned to China, he became conscious, liked drinking, was afraid of the sound of firecrackers, and later died of mental illness and alcoholism at home
War is hell half the time you won’t have a damn clue what’s going on or what your shooting at but that one scene where they both stare at each other scared for there own life it shows that no matter who is looking down those sights or who’s looking that barrel we’re all human in the end we bleed, cry, laugh just like everyone else
2:09 damn this hit hard, movies games and books depict the enemy always as monsters, killers, rapists, devils. But they are still human, some enemy soldiers are not bad, they either got drafted or wanted to defend there country. War is nothing but a slaughter fest, satan sits back and watches as humanity tears each other apart limb by limb. Not all enemy soldiers are bad, it’s sad some people don’t recognize this
i reckon most soldiers on both sides were fighting for good reasons, especially since china and usa had fairly sound justifications for fighting against each other
My grandfather was in the ROKN when he was 17, and he mainly did communications onboard his minesweeper. Honestly some of his stories of war is so terrifying like when a MiG apparently circled around for a run against his ship. He also told me about the time he jumped into the water to save this Dutch soldier who was drowning since he couldn’t swim, and had trouble climbing onboard.
That part where the soldier sees his enemy's face and it appears to make him "human" is pretty darn powerful. If you see your enemy as a person before foe, that doesnt always make you a bad soldier
They're still fighting to this day. The war was never officially over, it's just the longest ceasefire in human history, 60+ years. Another fact, even after the ceasefire both sides would pop off rounds at each side, ending up with casualties on both sides.
sida liu thats not going to happen. The United States is China's best customer and they only joined in the Korean War because they feared that the US would push their advance into China.
I hope it comes to that, because north korea deserves to be obliterated. if for nothing else than for the people who live there in constant fear and slavery.
No one fights for a cause they think is evil. Hell, some fight for causes separate from their government. Many often fight to protect and feed their families. This is why I will always respect a soldier, regardless of which nation they fight for.
The Last Communist Well said. The day that communists rise up and attempt to steal my property I’ll keep that in mind; they’re not evil, they’re just very misguided. Either way those blokes are goners.
The first time I ever saw this video was back in 2015 around a month it came out. I was only ten and easily got night mare's. When I saw the monster at 1.22 I fu****g s**t myself 🤣🤣🤣
I hate war but I love our troops. War will never end. We must take care of our boys because without them we would never exist. God bless the troops of the US and its allies and woe to any who oppose them.
I get the symbolism, and there is a lot of truth to message. My uncle was in the 32nd Army infantry .. he died there .. I don't know the details other than KIA by hostile. I have always had a great respect and admiration for all military .. My uncle was 19 and eager to follow in the footsteps of his big brother (my dad). I was gung ho to be a Marine in my teens .. it's all I dreamed of .. a bad knee left me unfit. Watching and hearing of the experiences endured at the Chosin, as well as other battles has completely wiped all the naivety from my mind .. the romance of it all has been stripped away .. War is an ugly, terrifying living hell .. For everyone involved .. but still a necessary one.
I had an uncle who served in Army field Artillery who’d died in this battle at only 20yo. I have pics of his Purple Heart and Korean War service medal. His older brother, my granddad, served in the Marines in WWII.
No they were shocked because both to see they were human. This was metaphor for how war changes are perspective on what the enemy is. We were told that the enemy is a monster when in reality they are human. This is what the film was trying to tell us.
"Baptized by fire" is a military saying for "First time in battle"
hmmm
I'm guessing the kid in the video is a supposed to be a fresh faced recruit in his first battle
@@cameronmayes3648 yes
Damn thx for the fact
@@cameronmayes3648 I don't even think he was a combatant. He was there just to deliver the mail till all hell went loose.
I had an uncle who was one of the Chosin Few. I had known since spending a summer with them at Ft Leonard Wood in 1965 that he was plagued with nightmares and periods of flashbacks, what we now call PTSD. A few years ago, just before he passed away, he asked me to go with him to the VFW. Over a couple of beers, he began telling me about the real horrors of that battle. Even though by then I was retired military myself, this was something he had never shared with anyone else, but knowing he hadn't long to live, it seemed he had to unburden himself.
Most terribly was that he had, like Billy French, run out of ammo and came face to face with a Chinese troop who was also out of ammo. They wound up in hand-to-hand combat. He survived by strangling the Chinese soldier, squeezing the man's throat, holding the death grip while the man thrashed with all his own might, and watched the life extinguished from the man's eyes. He told me it seemed that took an eternity. He had never told anyone else about that fight.
holy shit dude
Oh no 😢😢😢😢
damn... imagine old times where we use sword to fight it's insane combat like that already traumatic
He can survive only because Chinese soldiers only had rifles...
@@DescendantofYellowEmperor Whatever lets you sleep at night.
Most of you people here are missing the deep symbolism behind it.
The reason why the video paints the Chinese as horrible monsters, striking from the darkness, is because it's told from the point of view of a probably nineteen year old kid, young and fresh, who has no idea what's going on. He's been told that these men are monsters, and he's being attacked by them, in the dead of night. They're killing his friends, and he knows he needs to kill these monsters himself.
Until, that is, he comes face to face with one. The scene at 2:12 is powerful, because at that point, the young kid is seeing someone probably just as young as he is, and probably wants to be there just as much as he does, which is to say, not at all. Both have been told that the other side are monsters, and both see each other as such until they come face to face in the glow of an explosion.
It's when they realize that the opponents aren't monsters, they're humans too.
Trevor Anderson deep
There not Chinese its korean soldiers
Trevor Anderson I’m
Trevor Anderson it's the same in the North Korean/Chinese perspective
@Junseo Koh I think so
My grandpa fought in the Korean War and died last year and when I was little he told me this "when someone goes to war and see another enemies eyes, you will see the same horror as u did." Bishop Ramsey 1920-2015
Jaytheoddone thank you for your support
thank you and your grandpa. 당신과 한국을 위해 싸워주신 당신의 할아버님께 감사드립니다.
Wouldn't you mean "You will see the same horror as he did"? Or "He will see the same horror as you did"?
Rip warrios
Jaytheoddone My great grandfather died recently too, and also served there
The reason the Chinese are portrayed as inhuman monsters in this video should be obvious.The video is from the perspective of P.F.C. Billy French, a young Marine trapped in a ferocious battle. In his mind, the Chinese are viewed as evil, nameless monsters who want to kill him and his friends, so they are portrayed as such in the video. It's also why when he comes toe-to-toe with a Chinese Soldier in the middle of the video, they are both suddenly illuminated and he views this particular soldier not as a ferocious adversary, but as another young man just as scared as he was.
Everyone needs to stop jumping to conclusions. This is not American Propaganda, it's a video showing one perspective of the war, one of a scared P.F.C. who just wants to survive.
Matt McD Exactly
I thought the opening quote was funny because in reality we lost that war badly... the Chinese simply overtook us with sheer numbers....
Ku Klux Kevin hello
Er490 Chris we didn't though, the Chinese pushed the us to a stalemate, but we didn't exactly lose, not definitively
Jeremy Shiu The objective of the US was to stabilise the region and unite the 2 Koreas into one democratic state. The Chinese wanted to preserve their puppet in the region and inflict as much damage to the UN as possible. The Chinese achieved their goals, while the US didn't. If that's not losing, then I don't know what is.
My grand dad was one of many student soldiers in Korean War. He used to tell me not much about it, but I still remember one story. His first kill. Government told him and his friends that North Koreans were brain washed, that they would say ‘Hail Kim’ when they die. In his first battle, he shot a North Korean with his rifle. He wasn’t older than my grand pa. He was about same age. And he didn’t say ‘Hail Kim’. Instead, in Korean he began to say ‘ma’. He called out for his ma for few more minutes, and my grandpa couldn’t squeeze the trigger once more.
cause ur grandpa kill a chinese solider not n korea solider
ma =mom chinese
eomeoni =mom korea
anyway, here a cartoon korea war
u can watch
ua-cam.com/video/pyvWeEdlzMA/v-deo.html
That's a touching story. Very humane.
Why does this sound like a scene in "71 into the fire " movie ?
@ Because director probably asked other veterans and had the same answers.
David David people say ma and they arn’t from Chinese
Never look at the faces of your enemys
Because you will see your self in there terrified faces.
Mah boi, you are even here?
"The gateway into the human soul is through a person's eyes".
Nice. I think thats a good saying
Oh shit dats deep
@@ArthurMorgan-hl4eu I think it's a great saying as well.
Pretty intense. I thought it was powerfully poetic during the scene where the protagonist ran out of ammo and a flare lit up as he faced the communist soldier, the enemy became human.
Yeah I see far too many comments that apparently completely ignore the video and just use this as a chance to joke about korea
Joseph Mottram those were Chinese forces, fyi
China is communist.
At its core communism is actually good but it was utilised in wrong ways by many countries, which, eventaully lead them to their downfall. As far as i can tell only Cuba is doing good. For now.
Deadlock if communism is so "good" why has it failed in every country its ever been in
The comment section.
80% is saying how it isn't propaganda
5% saying it is
15% is other
lol
You're one of that 15% XD
thx for the statistic, it's so usefull :DDD
Hello 15% club
2:10 when you realize that the terrible enemy soldiers you were fighting turn out to be as young and scared as you are in the chaos of battle.
Notsofamous one I'm glad someone with sickle and hammer as a profile understands the message.
Notsofamous one Thats how war has always been and will always be.
unless they're hardened soldiers who know not to spare the enemy
ha that's what the people "liberation" army is
- - its not that hard to understand
To the people claiming this is propaganda I ask this:
Were you in a situation where all you were told about those you fought were how horrible they were, what kind of evil deeds they did, and that they were about to beset upon you and all those you were trying to protect: How would YOU have seen them?
This is the unfortunate nature of war. Not just in the violent death and chaos, but the perceptions it creates in desperation to survive.
War, by it's very nature, is two sides hateful and afraid killing each other until one is left standing.
yugijak
The only wars that are stupid are the ones without a just cause.
People go to war when they have no other options left.
Some fight for their land, some fight to free their countries of oppressors, some fight to eliminate corruption and terrorism in their governments, some fight for equal rights etc.
"War..War never changes"
@@TheDIversant11 FALLOUT 4 QUOTE
The two sides have been told of the horrible deeds each other have done. Each side is afraid of the other, and see each other as monsters.
So they kill the monsters. Until one side is left.
2:18 SVT 40
2:10 When you're playing laser tag and you find your best friend on the other team.
So true xD
Lol
Thank you, i hate it.
fucking distasteful
@@Cowboycomando54 How?
Why the hell isn't the Korean War more talked about?
Because when ww1 and ww2 exist people focus on stuff like this less it's sad in a way
Because it happened in between two of America's greatest conflicts. The glory of WW II and the horror of Vietnam.
It just didn't really go anywhere. A lot of people died and in the end the borders didn't change and everyone just went back to hating each other. It's not a clear unambiguous ''good triumphs over evil'' mythical narrative like WW2, and it's not a sobering, haunting clusterfuck that ended in failure like Vietnam.
It was just a textbook war. From a strategic/tactical perspective it saw a lot of interesting advancements (helicopters were deployed and gave wounded soldiers amazing survival chances, jet fighters engaged jet fighters for the first time). Two large armies engaged in relatively conventional warfare, and pretty much everyone got what they wanted (USA and their capitalist allies slow the progress of communism, China and the USSR keep a buffer state between them and a capitalist country, South Korea gets to keep its sovereignty, North Korea gets to keep hers too, etc...) You can't build a strong narrative or mythology around that war.
The real reason is because it doesn't fit the narrative. The liberal narrative seeks to portray the United States as weak, evil, etc. The fact that the United States won Korean War, coupled with the fact that the victory wasn't undone after the fact like Vietnam, makes it a positive event in US history and therefore is ignored.
The Korean War by far can't be taken as victorious. It's at its best a stalemate. @@LawlessNate
“The war is the world, and the world is the
war. But behind every gunsight is a human being.”
I was thinking about that due to how it felt like a Battlefield I Campaign with the Harlem Hellfighters...
When he opened his eyes, everyone around him died. He was shocked by the shells and fainted. He returned to his hometown of Shanghai scarred. He died two years after the end of the war. He was a China soldier and my grandfather.
谢谢你的爷爷
My Gramp was there as well, he woke up crying until he died in 07. I hope you are well.
Due to the sacrifice of US Marines in the battle of Chosin, thousands of Korean refugees were able to flee from Chosin to SK. Among the refugees, there were a young couple who successfully arrived to SK and gave a birth to a boy. The son would eventually become South Korea's 19th president
징크스 this guy gets it👌
Don't forget the Soldiers that held the line so the Marines could pull out
징크스 But president Moon love Kim jung un.
he doesn't love him, he wants to end the war you jerk.
That wasn't the point of the animation but yea, that was a good sacrifice.
*Reads the title again*
*Remembers that some soldiers at Chosin survived because of Tootsie Rolls*
*chuckles a bit*
Everyone else in comments: AMERICA IS EVIL! NO! CHINA IS EVIL! NO! YOU'RE A COMMIE! NO! YOU'RE A BRAINWASHED YANKEE!
A meme/historical fact right now, right here really sharply contrasts it.
Trevor Anderson in 2:09 you can See there are no communists or Yankees. Just scared humans
If you are a soldier you will always fight for the right thing maybe you're on the wrong side but you will think you're on the right side.
But in this moment there is no right or wrong side, only two humans , scarred nobody wants to kill ,nobody wants to die. At this moment the cover of the brutal enemies breaks and the young American can see that this isn't a monster it's a human.
Sorry for bad English I just wanted to share my thoughts
+Mr. REG In war, there is no good side
Well, yes, you are right there are better sides than others but yetIf something is better it doesn´t means that it´s good between bad and worse bad is better, but it is still bad
You got the sense of my comment by using "In War, Every side has it monsters" but i´d rather say that, war itself is the monster.
The Carno King so true but still horrible
The captain smoking that cig after the air support is 100% badass
Anthony Fernandez awww yeah, nothing beats air superiority
not gonna lie... that was good af
u are b*ack you lie always
@@Ganto94 Jesus dude settle down.
This is ascetically beautiful, it has the choreography of a manga but the art work of an american comic
Ce Hoarse wish more animations had this style
@@ethanr9514 ya me too also wish they would do more animations on war.
The artwork is the best part
As one American commander said when asked if the marines were retreating at Chosin "Retreating? No, we're just attacking in a different direction." It's amazing how they were able to escape completely surrounded and outnumbered close to 10-1.
StarNBars94 because you out armed by more than 10 to 1.
why can't anybody appreciate the beauty that was made by US Marine vets?
You mean the pile of dead bodies at the end of the video?
3rdOfficerTaylor the death of our enemies mid war is a beautiful sight, is it not
Well sure. Problem is the bodies were marines and not Chinese soldiers.
I dont really approve of any damn war that US fought side of the one for independence and the civil war. cos those two were necessary. how ever, some vietnam war for example. pointless as shit.
Laughing Tree because no country in Europe rode on the backs of others to reach their power on the world stage.
Video just shows the mindset of war. Viewing the enemy as a monster who wants to kill you... And a brief moment of humanity as some men see in war. It's an impressive visual.
My respect to all soldiers American or Chinese that fought bravely for their country.
+Dave ฆ้องวงศ์ Yeah, they were all just kids, really, who were told that the other side is evil and expected to murder each other in cold blood based on that assumption. While communism didn't do North Korea any good, it wasn't the individual soldiers' fault.
+Vader Some of them killed, raped innocent people of Korea. And they didn't even go to stranger's land for their patriotism. I've heard a lot from Korean elders who was in that hell.... Of course there were patriotic or benevolent persons in the army! ...A few
I agree, both sides should be respected due to their own sinscere cause.
War is one hell of a thing. Those who fought honorably deserve respect, both sides. It would be a foolish mistake to ever diminish the value of the other person trying to take your life, vice versa.
But children wont respect
"Death is a preferable alternative to communism"
-Liberty Prime
Nice fallout reference
DEMOCRACY is Nonnegotiable
-liberty prime
@@mysteriousstranger175 Man I love the fallout games.
@@mysteriousstranger175 DO you have any of the fallout games?
Jack Bartholomaus yeah 2,3 nv and 4 I haven’t got the 2 yet because I don’t have a pc to play on
War is hell. People who fight in them are heroes.
Doesn't matter the side. They're still people who fought in a war.
glossyplane542 but still the Chinese were relentless in the Korean war
glossyplane542 I agree, I just watched more into the video now😂
Both sides are relentless.
glossyplane542 here is a quote "war is not hell for hell spares the innocent"
Besides nazis on the eastern front, they weren't brave, the were villainous
Everyone in the comments are getting all political and having a shit fest, but that animation style tho...
Oh come on it looks great, can we all at least appreciate that in an artsy fartsy capacity?
kitty cat
That’s what happens when people try to shove their politics in everything they see. And I’m pretty sure by now you know it’s horrendous when it happens. Politics brings the absolute worst out of people and is fueled by nothing but hate, and it’s sad to see a beautiful, amazing animation like this with a message all about everyone being human just seen as an excuse for dumbasses in the comment section to dehumanize each other more. Trying to put politics in non political things is like smearing shit on a rose.
@@pvt.jamesramirez6249 thanks buddy for explaining. Love to see people who don't really want to involve with the politics (not me rip, my friend kinda force me to be).
The more you dehumanize the opponent, the easier it is to kill them.
2:08
"You're human?!?"
Nuff said. And that scene alone makes this an amazing deep animation!
Thank you for saving my nation,if you don't exist my countary would be captured by Kim jung eun's directorship.
@@moonryan3908 Shut up you chinese commie.
bro your newest president only got in because the last one got impeached and you guys went through 3 dictators all during the same period of time as Kim Il-Sung's rule
also, what about Chun Doo-Hwan's "re-education" camps?
@@과학5호기-v2l
Stop being a racist dick just because someone speaks a different language
The Final Starman well luckily, Korea got out of those dark times and now are stronger than ever
Even though I’ve never touched a firearm in my life and had never existed before 2004, you’re welcome
This comments section in a nutshell
80% "AMERICAN BIAS THE CHINESE AREN'T MONSTERS USA IS EVIL REEEEEEEEEEEE" (those who missed the point of the video)
20% those who understood that the video was from the perspective of that one guy, who was probably scared shitless, which is why the Chinese/North Korean soldiers were shown as monsters, until that flare or explosion went off and he saw that other Chinese kid, who was just as freaked out as he was.
Brandon King you forgot one percent: people complaining why the bullets look like lasers in the 1950’s
you wouldn't understand what is the the meaning of those soldier to our country
[Green Bay Packers]
Tracer shots maybe
FUCKING NORMIES THINKING THEY'RE SMART
假人斯康 it's ridiculous to see how similar yet different people's opinions are
As a recently graduated US Marine, this video really got to me, what those Marines went through. And at 2:13 or something, a statement by my senior drill instructor during the Crucible came into mind that we should think about how our enemies (individual soldier) aren't always monsters.
During my Crucible in December 2015, it was 34 Degrees with a Wind Chill. We were shivering non stop. My Drill Instructor said "If you think you're cold, imagine what it was for Marines in Korea. This is a Tropical Paradise compared to what they went through."
My grandfather was a ROK Marine who fought in the Battle of Naktong River He survived the war, but he died two years ago
too bad he didn\t get butchered
那可真是可喜可贺呀，哈哈哈
我爷爷屠杀了无数中共军哈哈哈
破虏湖
@@将军宇-i9f 不至于不至于，战争已经结束了，没必要这样弄了
Beautifully done. The animation, the art style, the vilification of the enemy that puts you in the soldiers boots. All the soldier sees is his comrades by his side, and the enemies in front of him. It’s not until he gets close to one that he realizes they are just another person.
Those who think this is propaganda clearly didn't see 2:09.
wait, people think this was propaganda?
Yep
@@murielcunningham8703 Because it is propaganda?
It was Korea, not USA.
What do american troops did there?
I mean, BEFORE the WAR.
Alex Katc Sad, don’t know your history
@@alexkatc59 I proudly served in the United States Army during the Korean War as an artillery operations specialist in the all-black 503rd Field Artillery Battalion in the Second Infantry Division. Charles B. Rangel
Me : America fought for south Korea and for democracy and some people died proudly for this cause. But we still upholded our honor of being brave and justus worth people.
"I will defend Korea as I would my own country-just as I would California."
- Gen. Douglas MacArthur to Dr. Syngman Rhee, president of the two-month-old South Korean Republic, October 1948
The perfect animation video doesn't exi-
My grandfather faught in that battle.
+Leon Borgomainerio average at best
Shet... My grandfather fought on the Commie side during that battle...
Emperor Edward the Great Was he Korean or Chinese? I hope he wasn't injured in the battle.
Leon Borgomainerio my grandfather fought at the forgotten war too. We also say it Korean War. Plus I am Korean
Troy Kanotz Out of his ten brothers, only he came back alive...
At first i wondered why the enemy army looked like an army of necromancer zombies.Then they showed that moment of humanity which i thought was both poetic and appropriate.It is often easy to forget during a war that the other side are humans too.This was a good short.
War has no winners.
There is only death in war and human beings getting caught in the web.
Sure it does!
Only survivors
Is that u John Wayne... it's me
Yes.
Most of the US Marines who fought at Chosin were recalled WWII vets. They all still wore the herringbone twill utilities and canvas leggings. This caused the North Koreans to call them "Yellow Legs". They feared the yellow legs and would tell fellow soldiers to avoid them.
Imagine fighting at the battle of the bulge and then fighting at the chosin
In the Battle of Chosin Lake, three armies of the 9th Corps of the Chinese People's Volunteers engaged in a direct battle with the 10th Army of the United States Army, which had world-class weapons and equipment and distinguished battle achievements, in Chosin Lake area of Korea from November 27 to December 24, 1950, under the conditions of more than minus 20 degrees Celsius, frostbite and insufficient troops. It created the record of wiping out an entire regiment of American troops in the War against the United States and forcing the American ace force to experience the "longest retreat" in history. This battle recaptured the vast eastern area north of the 38th parallel. The simultaneous victory of the volunteers on both the eastern and western fronts changed the battlefield situation in one fell fell, becoming the turning point of the Korean War and laying the foundation for the victory of the armistice negotiations that eventually came.
cultural revolution
thank you for saving my contry
We will always protect our South Korean allies. One day we will push north together and unify your country and free the innocent people of North Korea from evil.
I agree with turner. Ill gladly fight with a country, (South Korea) seeking the freedoms that every human is supposed to have. I will do my best to protect those rights even with my life on the line.
The Korean civil war is non of US business
so who protect syria？ Ukraine? Iraq? You think it is right to interfere other country's civil war?
well Ukrainian is really f2ck up tho ... but cyria? why whould u wanna spport isis ... that is dumb ... America help us out becouse South korean ask for help and we had same goal get the commies.
Im here to say R.I.P grandpa, who i never meet before. He was in war and thank the god he came out alive and well but, he died in 2006 the year that i was born but he died before he can meet me, im 11 now and its hard for me not to see him.
Nenad Tojagević 1951-2006
I met a Canadian Korean war veteran and he is 91 years old to this day he was earing McDonald's and I said thank you for what you did sir thank you for your service and he gave me my first salute I've ever gotten and it is so special to me
You should do other war stories animated
1:12 when my great great grandfather hears Air raid sirens *not to be ment as a joke*
"A good soldier kills without ever thinking of his enemy as a human being,In the moment that he sees him as a fellow man he is no longer a good soldier"
"And I was a good soldier, god help me"
This was pretty powerful. Seeing him finally see the enemy almost made me cry
my grandfather was a Soviet soldier who fought in the Korean war as a volunteer
What happened to him
@@depressedtoothpaste6033 , After he returned to the USSR and died of cancer in the sixties.
@@Friedrich_Vilhelm_Nitsche That sucks...
i am korean Thanks to peoples who fight for our nation .our nation could saved our nation and free democracy could saved thanks for everyone fight for our nation🇰🇷🇺🇸🇬🇧🇹🇷🇦🇺🇨🇦🇫🇷🇹🇭🇳🇱🇬🇷🇪🇹🇨🇴🇧🇪🇵🇭🇳🇿🇿🇦🇱🇺🇳🇴
come back 1950，Yi Seung-man（Syngman Rhee이승만 (李承晩)），have no democracy，he was famous dictator，
thanks for fight for South Korea' dictator Yi Seung-man,
@@jianqiaocao2446 come back to 1950 and return to 2021 what is differences between you and us
@UCMtdC4r4Li0COjm9ar4W1Rg and who did you fought for. The kim dinasty. Fuck yall
I’m Belgian. My grandpa came to Korea to help logistically the American. He died in 2014 and when covid showed up, our state don’t give us any mask, but my grandmother received a box of mask....for the ambassad of South Korea, thanking my grandfather for his service during the War. As our state don’t do anything, your does and just for that I respect and thanks your country. Longue live the friendship between our people 🇧🇪🤝🇰🇷
My granpa was 18 years old when the Korean war broke out. He ran away from home in North Korea to avoid getting recruited, but he was captured by the South Korean army and became a combat engineer. He said the images of bodies burnt by a flamethrower still haunts him. Poor old man passed away 4 years ago.
To everyone who served and to everyone who didn’t come home
a truly touching story and reminder that both sides were still human
And 14 year olds say they have a hard life
I'm fourteen, and I agree with you.
@@DEFBONEZZ cool
Phil, you could've fixed Korea...
You know nothing Phil
r/lewronggeneration
My grandfather who died in February 2017 volunteered for the front lines in Korea. He served two tours of duty from 1950-51. He was in combat, he got malaria, and a grenade blew up next to him and sent shrapnel into his chest, luckily it missed his heart. He lived a wonderful life and was a brave, tough old man.
RIP Jesse Alberto Murga
24th infantry division, U.S. Army
1925-2017
William Menendez What was he during WW2?
Brndon Lu A paratrooper with the 11th Airborne. Also served a little bit with the 82nd and 7th airborne
William Menendez I wish your grandpa to rest in peace.
Astounding work man!
I used to live up in Korea at yongsan. They had a museum off post dedicated to those lost in the conflict.
When I heard about my grandpa serving in the Korean War I thought he was one luck bastard. He would later die of a heart attack.
Man I remember backing this on Kickstarter WAY back! Good times, glad I could help make this happen in a small way.
The fact that the end wraps around to the beginning is pretty neat.
US Marines:
"Outnumbered?"
"Does that mean we can shoot more targets?"
US Army:
"Retreat?"
"Nah just attack from another angle:
US AirForce:
"BRRRRRRT"
Oh shit that moment at 2:08 was awesome.
It really was
My grandfather didn’t like to speak about the war. The only mention of his experience in Korea came from when he was hunting during winter in Utah with my dad. They were walking high in the mountains, treading through snow when my grandpa stopped and looked around. He told my dad, “This looks exactly like the Chosin Reservoir.” My father knew better than to ask any questions about it and they just continued walking.
My friend's grandfather was a Chinese volunteer in the battle of Chosin Reservoir. He joined the battle as a reinforcement. When he returned to China, he became conscious, liked drinking, was afraid of the sound of firecrackers, and later died of mental illness and alcoholism at home
0:47 Was he whistling waltzing matilda?
I thought the same thing!
He would be Australian soldier.
2:02 "they Say The Scream of a Desperate Loved one or Soul, Can Be Heard a Miles away but to us they sound like Wind." - Me
War is hell half the time you won’t have a damn clue what’s going on or what your shooting at but that one scene where they both stare at each other scared for there own life it shows that no matter who is looking down those sights or who’s looking that barrel we’re all human in the end we bleed, cry, laugh just like everyone else
70 years ago today, my Grandfather along with many other great men fought here. I will never forget The Chosin Few.
My great grandfather too
A beautifully animated short about war, perspective, fear, and humanity.
I wish I could see more animations like this, well done!
Is this 2d motion?
"Why is North Korea shooting at us? We have bombs, they have bombs, we have tanks, they have tanks..."
- Hawkeye Peirce
Me when I was 10: I want to become a soldier someday.
Me at 17 and approaching military age: Yeah... Maybe not anymore.
I can't believe the Chinese actually sent orc in battle
It's impressive that US was able to bring it to a stalemate.
15 people in N Korea have internet.
+karstenhain You're spotting them 5, right ?
This battle was fought against the Chinese not the North koreans..
karstenhain that actually sounds real
statisticaly that means 8 of them are trading nudes right now.
karstenhain j
장진호 전투에 참가한 미국 해병대와 보병부대에 한국인으로 감사하게 생각합니다.
한국의 현재 자유와 번영은 여러분의 덧이라 생각합니다.
감사합니다.
70多年过去了,对比韩国和朝鲜,为什么我们站在文明的对立面!
Give me tomorrow.
- Unknown US Marine from the Chosin Reservoir.
2:09 damn this hit hard, movies games and books depict the enemy always as monsters, killers, rapists, devils. But they are still human, some enemy soldiers are not bad, they either got drafted or wanted to defend there country. War is nothing but a slaughter fest, satan sits back and watches as humanity tears each other apart limb by limb. Not all enemy soldiers are bad, it’s sad some people don’t recognize this
i reckon most soldiers on both sides were fighting for good reasons, especially since china and usa had fairly sound justifications for fighting against each other
The comment section is just cancerous.
Domonoasis World Agreed
Like u
Edit: tf I didn't remember commenting this before
say's the person that has a fictional video game character as his username and pfp.
RAMIREZ USE THE X BUTTON TO LEAVE THE COMMENT SECTION
My grandfather was in the ROKN when he was 17, and he mainly did communications onboard his minesweeper. Honestly some of his stories of war is so terrifying like when a MiG apparently circled around for a run against his ship. He also told me about the time he jumped into the water to save this Dutch soldier who was drowning since he couldn’t swim, and had trouble climbing onboard.
I am Korean and I really appreciate the soldiers who were at that time.
Because of your sacrifices, the present South Korea exists. We will never forget.
- 19th Republic of Korea President Moon
Jung HT This made me tear up a bit. A few men's sacrifice became a nation's hope for survival.
得了吧
I am a Republic of Korea citizen.
Thank you for your service, the United Nations Allied Forces, including the U.S. military.
BY Far, one of my favorite animations
Such powerful symbolism on display in this short.
That part where the soldier sees his enemy's face and it appears to make him "human" is pretty darn powerful. If you see your enemy as a person before foe, that doesnt always make you a bad soldier
You never know your enemy unless you see their perspective
I am enjoying watching the flame wars since I am an american and chinese nationalist.
Chinese nationalist? You mean a commie or one who supports the republic of china
HexrMage I am in no way a communist. MAGA all the way.
Ditto.
fuck u
Also Taiwan boys
Thank you for your service
Hope the two nations never fight again.
They're still fighting to this day. The war was never officially over, it's just the longest ceasefire in human history, 60+ years. Another fact, even after the ceasefire both sides would pop off rounds at each side, ending up with casualties on both sides.
I mean China and the US.
Before the nuclear power lose their effect, i guess there won't be any war between China and US. If it does, i guess that's the end for humanity.
sida liu thats not going to happen. The United States is China's best customer and they only joined in the Korean War because they feared that the US would push their advance into China.
I hope it comes to that, because north korea deserves to be obliterated. if for nothing else than for the people who live there in constant fear and slavery.
There is no good nor bad in war it's about what you're fighting for
Communist 1991 Sadly, the victor gets to choose who was good and who was bad.
No one fights for a cause they think is evil. Hell, some fight for causes separate from their government. Many often fight to protect and feed their families. This is why I will always respect a soldier, regardless of which nation they fight for.
The Last Communist Why you got Soviet Union flag as your profile pic
The Last Communist
Well said. The day that communists rise up and attempt to steal my property I’ll keep that in mind; they’re not evil, they’re just very misguided. Either way those blokes are goners.
Communism is the last great evil on this planet. We will wipe them all out within 100 years though.
I love the art style
The first time I ever saw this video was back in 2015 around a month it came out. I was only ten and easily got night mare's. When I saw the monster at 1.22 I fu****g s**t myself 🤣🤣🤣
"Have you ever seen anything so beautiful?"
"Air support?"
"No, Courage."
I wouldn’t mind a full animated movie like this. The Korean War doesn’t get talked about enough period.
BAPTIZED BY FIRE 40:1!
4:01
Only the Polish were 40:1, but these Marines were still outnumbered and held their ground
I hate war but I love our troops. War will never end. We must take care of our boys because without them we would never exist. God bless the troops of the US and its allies and woe to any who oppose them.
SoldierSaint Germans, Austrians, Bulgarians, Italians, Japanese, Hungarians,Romanians they are people too.
I get the symbolism, and there is a lot of truth to message. My uncle was in the 32nd Army infantry .. he died there .. I don't know the details other than KIA by hostile. I have always had a great respect and admiration for all military .. My uncle was 19 and eager to follow in the footsteps of his big brother (my dad). I was gung ho to be a Marine in my teens .. it's all I dreamed of .. a bad knee left me unfit. Watching and hearing of the experiences endured at the Chosin, as well as other battles has completely wiped all the naivety from my mind .. the romance of it all has been stripped away .. War is an ugly, terrifying living hell .. For everyone involved .. but still a necessary one.
Quote from one of mike akkerman’s drawings in deviant art: foe or friend, we’re all the same in the end
Diversity and comics sent me
Which video
I had an uncle who served in Army field Artillery who’d died in this battle at only 20yo. I have pics of his Purple Heart and Korean War service medal. His older brother, my granddad, served in the Marines in WWII.
oh boohoo he's irrelevant. Also, perhaps don't die next time fighting imperialistic wars
An American whistling waltzing Matilda
JNR5_21 i noticed that too! XD
Waltzing Matilda was the divisional song for the 1st Marine Division. They picked it up in Australian after fighting in Guadalcanal
Brandon Michaels ahh, well that explains!
Brandon Michaels Also australian troops were part of the UN contingent that fought in the war.
Ye lol wtf, I guess they were trying to include Aussies in the conflict.
Diversity & Comics sent me here.
2:13 Russell long lost brother?
No they were shocked because both to see they were human. This was metaphor for how war changes are perspective on what the enemy is. We were told that the enemy is a monster when in reality they are human. This is what the film was trying to tell us.
R.I.P for every sordiers for fighting in this war me and my motherland will remember
nuke korea