Why Gen Z Doesn't Care About Music - a response to Rick Beato through a psychological lens
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2023
- Music Psychology: Why don't young people not seem to like music that much? This is a topic that Rick Beato addressed in a video that focused on Gen Z and his theory as why they don't care about music as much as previous generations. In this video, I will react and respond to Rick's theory as well as offer my own thoughts and theories, looking at the topic through a psychological lens.
Link to Rick Beato's Video: • Why Gen Z Doesn't Care...
Nena Lavonne, Psy.M. is a musician, rock music enthusiast, and professional in the psychological field that enjoys analyzing and discussing her favorite songs & artists to understand them on a deeper level. Subscribe for more Rock Psychology!
Citations for studies mentioned in video:
Ophir, E., Nass, C., & Wagner, A. D. (2017). Cognitive control in media multitaskers. Psychological Science, 28(6), 755-765. doi:10.1177/0956797616667691
Ralph, B. C. W., Thomson, D. R., Cheyne, J. A., & Smilek, D. (2014). Media multitasking and failures of attention: The role of individual differences in working memory. Nature Communications, 5(1), 5235. doi:10.1038/ncomms5235
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I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic & the top 5 albums that changed your life! Thanks for watching!
Nena
Top 5 albums:
Rush: Moving Pictures
Rush: 2112
Pink Floyd: The Wall
Boston: More Than a Feeling
The Call: Modern Romans
@@timbaker7238 😊🤘🏻
So, Nena, when are we going hear you "pick up your guitar and play"? 😎
metallica ride the lightening
anthrax spreading the disease
slayer reign in bl00d
mudvayne L.D. 50
meshuggah 0bzen
Regarding not listening to albums any more - I think that is 100% due to streaming. Even I, as a Gen Xer, find myself listening to music differently. I can create a playlist with only the top songs of my favorite bands and put it on shuffle. It feels like I have my own personal radio station because I don’t know what will play next, but I know it will be a song I love. It’s cool, but you completely lose any idea of what album a song comes from or how its placement on the album fits into the overall whole. That aspect gets totally lost.
I'm 61 now, but when I was 12 and I got to sit and listen to Fragile, The Yes Album, then Close To The Edge, my jaw dropped, my mind was blown. I could not fathom how music so
rich in depth, complexity, and sonic precision could be made. The same can be said for Dark Side Of The Moon, and Wish You Were Here, Houses Of The Holy, and The Royal Scam.
I could list a hundred albums, but it's not necessary, just those 7 albums are representative of the attention to detail that the '70s delivered.
Some stellar choices there! :) Thanks for sharing!
Music used to be a universal language and it has become backgroud noise.
There are records and songs that I consider the Soundtrack to my life and in a lot of ways that soundtrack has almost gone silent. Thankfully there are still the evergreens to fall back on and a few new bands still making great music out there.
Yes, absolutely! It's amazing how a song can directly trigger a memory or transport you to another time in your life. Very powerful! I agree there are some great new bands making quality music. There is hope!
Killer video! I must agree with your analogy about why Gen Z is not very interested in music. There is hope for modern unmanufactured music. I am a huge fan of The Warning, as I know you are also. They have given me hope that great music played by real, and dedicated musicians is still possible. Now, going back 50 years, on my 12th birthday I asked for a stereo music set with turntable etc. From that day forward it was on. I started out with 45"s and soon discovered LP"s. I would do chores around the house, etc. to earn money, just to fuel my new love. The first albums I purchased were, Led Zeppelin III, ZZ Top, Fandango, Santana, Abraxas, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Creedence Gold, and by the way the extended version of Suzi Q from that album is fire. After that my world of music exploded! As my fifth album choice, The Warning, Queen Of The Murder scene.
QOTMS is an incredible album - hope to do a full video on it soon. I agree that the band has shown that great music is still being created! :) Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Excellent video...well said! I started playing guitar in 1964 and have played professionally and taught music most of my life so I've watched this progression from absorption and identity with music to playing in front of people on their phones and laptops... It wore out the usual magic experience of live performance and I just teach now...
Influential albums: Meet the Beatles, Axis Bold as Love, Disraeli Gears, Led Zeppelin II, and Rainy Day Women (Dylan)...
Great albums, and thank you so much for sharing your thoughts AND for teaching music. :)
Did she play bass?@@Daathiel
Being a Gen X person, I can’t imagine music not being a major focus point. Being a musician, music is deeply a part of my soul and connects me to The Great Creator Of Being, others and myself. I feel it’s a huge part of my life’s purpose and passion.
Yes! I can completely relate to your comment! What instrument do you play?
I agree that music isn't as important to Gen Z. Growing up in my small town everyone was identified by what bands in which they listened. Music broke down cliques. Jocks talked with nerds in a positive way if they liked the same bands. Five albums that changed my life 1. Love it to Death - Alice Cooper. After hearing I'm Eighteen on a transistor radio on a fishing trip I no longer liked pop music because AC was so different. 2. Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie. David paved the way for me to be my weird self and be ok with it. My family were very WASP and I was not. 3. Rush - Rush. That first album was so technically proficient. The bluesy Here Again, the energy of In the Mood and finally Working Man inspired me to pick up a bass. 4. Sgt Peppers - The Beatles. That album is still awe inspiring to me. The stories it told influenced how I write lyrics today 5. The Warning - XXI Century Blood. They inspired me to pick up my bass again and record the songs I had written over a life time. After that, I sent them to a producer and he said they were good enough to record. So that's where I am now. Three songs recorded eight more to go.
That's incredible! Congrats and please keep me posted!!!!
That's awesome. Nothing like recording a record. Best of luck to you.
I think it's interesting that you brought up the warning. I remember in 2009 or so when Rock Band was big how dismissive alot of the bands I followed then were of it. How degrading it was to what they did. I thought it was gatekeeping then, and I was certainly was right. Dany, Pau and Ale were exposed to that genre of music through rock band. I don't know what they'd be doing today if it weren't for rock band, they're remarkable people so something amazing but they wouldn't be playing classic rock style music. I still follow those bands who dismissed Rock Band, most of them are still around. In a perfect world they'd have to play a headlining show in a place like CDMX or worse Monterry with The Warning opening for them; then maybe they could comment on Rock Band after Dany, Pau and Ale burned the place to the ground and they have to follow them.
I hate streaming, file sharing took away musicians main source of income, and streaming took away physical CD sales which was their last form of reliable income. Merch tables are quiet today. That said it's not a good idea to gatekeep. It seems the Warning have found a way to be viable through patreon and social media. Maybe that's the way forward, because we can't put the genie back in the bottle. I think streaming has devalued music, if something has no cost, it has no value. I remember how special it was, getting first LP's and 45's. 45's were great, they cost a buck and they didn't eat your whole allowance. Then tapes, then lastly CD's. You didn't have alot of music because it was expensive for young dude. You treasured your collection, you got excited when a banger came on the radio or on TV. I remember being at a bar when someone fed a quarter into the jukebox and smells like teen spirit came on and we all just stopped. It was special.
Now with with social media you get a taste of the warning. Then for a monthly subscription on patreon you get a lot more. It's the sort of interaction that gen Z is used to. It's an interaction that I value as well. When I see a new vid from a current concert I get excited. UA-cam is how I found them. The alogrithm one day decided I should see their performance of More at the VMA's. I'm glad I clicked it.
Hopefully there's a path forward.
I found this topic fascinating. It's hard for me to grasp music not being important. Music is extremely important to how I regulate my life. So far as learning musical instruments, (I'm still slowly learning) it's a very creative media which allows the artist to mold sound into something that transcends spoken language so all can listen, recieving what they choose from it regardless of who and where you live.
I'd be interested in more on what about Punk music caught your ears.
Being a life long metalhead I can say that the scene is alive and well where I live with a ton of twenty somethings forming bands and rocking out.
Thank you for sharing :) Punk caught my ears because it was the first music I was exposed to that wasn't pop and I loved being a part of the scene - it was energetic and fun. That's great that the metal scene is alive and well where you live!
Back when spending time at Tower Records and Amoeba Music looking for albums was a ritual for many music lovers/seekers.
Amazing memories :)
It's hard to find any argument in any of the points you make (I'll need to go watch Rick's video next.) I grew up in the tail end of the 60s and I can probably illustrate my lifelong relationship to music by saying I talked my mom into taking me to see Jimi Hendrix in 1969 when I was 12. I read about him in those "older kid" magazines and decided I'd do anything to get to that concert. So music has been synonymous with culture for my entire life. I've never been a musician or worked in music but it was my entire social reality. when I wasn't working my day job I was listening to and thinking about music. So I have no idea how people survive with the enormous gaping hole in their existence. It would be like cutting off one of my arms and relearning everything if I had to go without it. So I am shocked and mystified by younger people today that have no connection. One point though that should be mentioned, is that while music shaped the culture of generations, there were a hell of a lot of people that were heavily into music and as soon as they got out of school and their peer group faded away, so did music in their lives. There are millions of people that grew up in the 70s that couldn't name much of anything after Led Zeppelin. So the base of people truly, deeply affected by music is smaller than we want to believe. Anyway, the future is scary. I'll have to continue with my thoughts on this topic in the coming days. I was a huge Progressive rock fan in the 70s, so my life changing albums will mostly be there. 1) Fragile by Yes, 2) Trilogy by Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, 3) Meddle by Pink Floyd, 4) Low by David Bowie, any of the first five albums by The Cure. And, Jethro Tull. And as a Huge Huge Huge fan of The Warning I can't even know how to fit them in, close to the top for sure. (I could have listed 30 probably and their ranking still varies every day. Thanks for the video.
Love your musical influences! Like you, I could list 30 albums that changed my life! Great point about music becoming less important for many people as soon as they are separated from their peer group - adds further support for the theory that if peer groups aren't into music to begin with, it is unlikely for Gen Z to have a lot of exposure to music in the first place, or be excited by it. Lots to consider. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts! :)
I believe that a big part of the movement away from music for younger people has to do with the fact that most school districts in the US have been cutting funding for music and the arts. The older generations are stealing the love of music and the arts and pushing sports instead and in the dumbing down our education systems.
But that's my opinion.
That's incredibly sad! The arts play a vital role in child development. They foster creativity, cognitive growth, and emotional well-being - it's proven. Thanks for sharing, Tim.
@@psychologyofrock I also think this is why we see so much good music coming from Japan....they still invest in the arts and promote the love of music and the arts to their children.
It's all part of the dumbing down of America. Everything from the food people eat to the media they absorb has a function. Those of us old enough to have seen the gradual change will get it.
Please stop blaming older people. Please, just stop.
Like Rick, I'm a Boomer (68). In our generation, music was most often listened to on loud speakers, among small groups of friends, in smoky dorm rooms or basements lit with lava lamps. They were LOUD speakers. By the early 1980s, headphones were strongly encouraged on college campuses, and loud stereos were frowned upon. Stereo sales plummeted. LP sales ARE coming back, if for no other reason than the CD packaging is too small for decent graphics, readable lyrics, and other inserts such as posters. But portable players (smartphones) are here to stay, and music is now highly curated by each individual. I certainly agree with the "inauthenticity" factor. That's why bands like The Warning are so important. They are real, intelligent, emotionally mature for their years, and appeal to music lovers of all generations. They harken back to the days of the 1960s when most bands played live in the studio. But even then, some music was as fake as plastic.
Yes, I completely agree with you! Great points, William!
Hi Nena! I always love your well thought out analyses, and as usual I think you are spot on! Rock On, Girl!
Thank you, my friend! I appreciate you watching! :)
i don t think gen z doesnt care about music, i just think they dont care for the mastery or craft of it as much as older generations. im a self taught guitarist and piano player who is still very fresh to it all but i make sure to practice everyday and study my idols and music theory and attempt to learn and read sheet music and classical music. Modern radio stations and artists pumped out by the industry have lessened the taste of the masses for more classical and harmonic music in my opinion. I hope others can see the value of studying and perfecting your craft to have your own unique sound like i am trying to achieve.
Hi Nena,
there are lots of bands and songs which had an impact on me. The most effective ones were/are:
1) Simon & Garfunkel : BOTW
(opened me to American music at all)
2) CCR: Cosmo's factory
(opened me to sinking into trance while listening to long music pieces)
3) The Doors: Weird scenes inside the gold mine
(connected me with deep, dark feelings that usually are being suppressed)
4) Larkin Poe: Peach (taught me to love myself)
5) The Warning: QOTMS
(Shows me that one can't force fate. Otherwise you might end up in bloodshed. Unexpectedly a very political album. )
Thanks so much for sharing, George! :)
In no particular order.
News of the World
The Game
52nd Street
Glass Houses
Double Vision
I could go on for hours, but you asked for 5.
In case you haven't figured it out I am all about Song Writers, as a Song Writer these albums really inspired my writing style early on.
That's awesome. It must be an incredible experience to be a song writer. Truly an art!
@@psychologyofrock Yep, until writers block sets in and you want to burn all your instruments. 🤣🤣🤣
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My girls 12 and 14 actually surprise me. A lot of their exposure to older music is via Tick Tock. They also have Apple play and listen to a lot of music (mostly older) but I do agree it is not to the same level of engagement as when I was growing I’m as a Gen x kid.
That’s great! What artists do they like? 😊
Like you I watched that Beato vid a few months ago and it kept popping into mind . I agree on everything you pointed out. One thing that I keep thinking of is freedom of expression when going to concerts , when I was a teen early 20s a concert was a place where you could let loose all your frustration with friends and others. Today concerts are such controlled events you can’t even bring water so why would younger people want to go they don’t have a nostalgia or any other connection built to motivate them.
My top 5:
Pink Floyd- Dark side of the Moon.
Led Zeppelin IV
Yes- Fragile
Steely Dan - Aja
The Warning - QOTMS
Great topic there is hope. But AI poses a possible threat to many entertainment and arts. Rock on 🤘⚡️🤘
Yes! That video really stays with you! Love your top 5! Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts!
It's really sad that you are so on point. Apparently the internet and TikTok killed music. The younger kids today have the attention span of a flea. I think Band Maid kind of taps into this. Back in the days of AM radio songs would be about 3 minutes until FM came along. But Band Maid keeps most of their songs to about 3:30 hoping that it's short enough to keep the young ones attention. I don't know if they do this consciously or not but it is what it is.
I don't know if I could list just five albums that have changed my life but I could list a few recently that have brought back my love of music and that would be the last five albums of Band Maid.
I'm glad you found them! They are refueling the love of rock for many people right now!
As a millennial, I was at first sad at how much music devolved in the public eye. Everything became generic, and like music made to be in the background. The last time I remember a song impressing me that was in the mainstream, was Uptown Funk and that was a long time ago.
However, I think this is one of the best moments in music history. Why? Because music is so accessible you can find anything. People like the HU and Myrath would have never gotten a chance in the international or at the very least West. But thanks to the accessibility of music they can. People like Devin Townsed, can have their space to be as creative as they want without having to worry about publishers. I can also find random East Asian bands that are underground. I can find almost anything I want.
But I still find it sad, that I find such amazing music, and I try to show it to my friends and they don't seem to really care about music. Then they put generic inoffensive music that just blends into the background.
Great points here :)
I think you nailed it all around. Great job
So glad you enjoyed! 😊
I can see your points . In Ricks video I left a long comment outline why I feel his argument was flawed. Ricks take came off as the sky is falling and video games are to blame. It seemed a simplified reaction to reality of what is happening in the world. First off historically music interest has waxed and waned over all the years humans have had music.So with that in mind and the fact that there are genz young adults that still have the same love of music we have, I have no worry of that interest going away. I agree with you that the young bands coming out are making a change. And a lot of them have broken away from the music industry. And taken control of their music. So it could be that the Gen z that have a passion for it will help pass that on and foster a new generation to love it even more. And these new Bands could very well make changes to the music industry. Some already are. Making the free flow of music easier. In the end I have faith in the coming generations and most of all in music itself. It was one of our first art forms. Its has also been the closest and most interconnected to our human history. Think of what music did for the very first humans. Sitting around a fire scared of the unknown in the dark. And how music gave them comfort and strength to make it through. And all the times music has inspired us . been to war with us to help us be brave, Been a part of every celebration. Been in all of our tv shows and movies. and thousands of more ways it is connected to us. So in my mind it will always be with us in one form or another. Styles will change and change again. Interest will rise and fall. It will someday be as big a passion for some generation not even born yet as it has been for us. Dany from the Warning said that music is life. i totally agree with her and would add that music is the only true magic in the world. And it can not be stopped. Music is us and we are music.As simple as that. Some where out there in the future is the next Bach or Chopan the next genius rockstar that will ignite a new revolusion of music.So I will never worry about it. There are much bigger things happening in this world. For music to vanish or become irrelevant would mean that we have already suffered that same fate our selves. Thank you for letting me express my feeling on this. I maybe be just a passionate old man. But no one will change my mind on this. Much respect to Psychology of rock. And thank you for the chance to have this discussion.
Meet The Beatles ( Beatles ) -Dark Side of the Moon ( Pink Floyd ) - Fragile ( Yes ) - Black Sabbath Vol 4 ( Black Sabbath ) - Led Zeppelin IV ( Led Zeppelin ) - Boy ( U2) - Queen of the Murder Scene ( The Warning ) - There are a few others, however these albums literally changed my life. From 5 years old, listening to The Beatles non-stop on my cousin's turntable, to waking up out of a 30-year musical coma and discovering The Warning, my life has been influenced by music. Not sports, not politics, just music. My generation was truly blessed .
It’s so amazing how The Warning has reinstated so many people’s faith in music again 😊⚡️ Great album choices!
What a wonderful analysis! I do see a passion for music in many Gen Zers, in high school and college music programs and in the younger bands coming along. However, the potential supply of talent is much greater relative to demand than it was decades ago, and technology has caused great musical talent to be far less a requirement for success. Add to that that, given the evolution of our economy, being a "starving musician" is simply not a realistic option anymore. I'm a boomer, but find myself more like the stereotypical Gen Zer than I ever imagined when I minored in music in college. Influential (pop/rock) albums: Blood Sweat &Tears/Blood Sweat & Tears, Dark Side of the Moon/Pink Floyd, Court & Spark/Joni Mitchell, Aja/Steely Dan, Error/The Warning.
Thanks so much! Great point that I hadn't considered about economic issues possibly contributing to this issue. Fantastic that you minored in music! :)
"Demand" is an interesting point because how much of that is driven by the industry focusing purely on what they believe will make them the most money? I had a conversation with an American guy who plays in a band in Korea, and he said that he's had discussions with a big player in the music industry there (very much behind one of Korea's biggest international acts) and he said that he loved 'alt genre' music, but wouldn't do anything with it because it wouldn't sell. A female punk band from there I like (Rumkicks) get told by a potential manager that he'd only manage them if they sacked the bassist and drummer and brought in replacements that looked like k-pop models. It's maybe more extreme there, but the people creating the demand don't care about music.
@@RevStickleback Agreed. I think there are a couple of "demand" factors. One is certainly the effect of the demand projected by industry management. In the end, as you suggest, this stifles creativity, keeps markets from being opened up for anything too far from tried and true, and dumbs down content. Do platforms like UA-cam help? Not much, I think. UA-cam hosts a billion videos, and what you see in your feed is seldom far from what's popular and what you watched before. A second dimension, I think, is just numbers. If the population increases, the existence of talent increases proportionally, but the capacity of the industry to effectively market and distribute to the masses increases much more slowly, and my ability to consume it doesn't increase at all. More musicians end up with nowhere to go with their creativity and talent, and so go elsewhere. I wrote a little piece in a music composition class in college. It was the only work my classmates thought was interesting enough to perform. But I failed the exercise because my composition violated "the rules of proper music composition." Might have been the straw that broke this camel's back. I can relate to your friend.
Im 18 and love everything from the Beatles to tool everybody is different regardless of what year they were born in
Very true!
Thanks!
That is very kind of you :) Thanks so much!!!
I think I'm in love. Shout out to Rick! Hell yeah
Glad you enjoyed! Rick is amazing! 😊🤘🏻
Gen X here. My parents said I could do whatever I wanted outside of school, as long as I also played an instrument and a sport. I think that's a pretty good requirement for kids.
Love that! Which instrument did you choose?
@@psychologyofrock Piano up until highschool graduation and then bought a guitar just to have something that fit in a crowded dorm room in college. I still play too. I'm a programmer who works from home, and when I need to take a step back and think about a hard problem, I've got a guitar in my lap.
Fantastic! My chosen instrument as well 😊
I am a firm believer that not only social media is a factor but also gaming...gaming is a huge part of the younger generations lives.
Even then, a game's soundtrack would usually get recognized.
While Gen Z continues to buy Paramore's albums in 2024, other female-fronted rock bands from that era like Halestorm, The Pretty Reckless and Echosmith (who, unlike Halestorm and TPR, are actually more synth-wave/pop-rock than they are pure rock) are struggling in record sales. Echosmith (aka the "Cool Kids" band) had one of the most overlooked and underrated albums of 2023 that received little to no attention, and it was surprisingly decent. They'll forever be (unfairly) known as a one-hit/one-album wonder or "Paramore or Coldplay clone" band, and they have at least 6 or 7 Top 40 pop hits to their name. Their most recent album showed that the family-based trio from suburban L.A. (who began as a quartet but has since pared down to three) had greatly matured, especially the voice range of Echosmith's singer Sydney Sierota, whose voice range changed from (at age 16, when the band first started out) Hayley Williams to Taylor Swift to (a decade later, at age 26) a voice ranging from Amy Lee to Grace Slick. Their music went from one-dimensional teenage alternative pop-rock and synth-wave to a more mature melodic modern pop-rock sound with a tiny hint of blues, prog and arena rock.
Born 1960, I have a few albums to mention. But 1st of all: I have a new workmate. She is maybe late Gen X. And we are vividly exchanging music!
She liked Zola Jesus. (Wonder, if she'll like Anne Clark?) On some music she handed to me. Led Zeppelin was included. We're only working together occasionally. But it's true fun! Influential to me: Into the void by Black Sabbath was the 1st hard rock song I came across. Tusk by Fleetwood Mac brought me my 1st gf. (Her name is Heidi. Can you guess, what happened?) I would listen to Kashmir by Led Zeppelin or Return to fantasy by Uriah Heep on my headphones, when my brother had fallen asleep. Boureè by Jon Lord was something completely different. I danced to it with a leg in cast, after a motorbike accident.
I worked at a factory during the school holidays for some years. Operating a machine, folding cardboard. Pretty boring, sometimes. So I decided to learn lyrics by heart. Such as: Solitude by Black Sabbath; Ogre battle by Queen; Lady in black by Uriah Heep. Just to name a few.
That's incredible that you have someone to share music with. That is THE BEST! Also, I agree that listening to music can make any task more enjoyable :)
@@psychologyofrock Actually, to "have to work with a new coworker" can be quite challenging, sometimes. To work with her? It's a gift! I've been working with hundreds of folks. (Temp-worker, for many years) A thing like this is standing out. By far!
That’s amazing! 😊🤘🏻
I agree with you. I'm gen X. I have three Z on my family. my daughter and my two boys. Like me and her mother they do love music but they have a diferent connection to it. It pass thru video games and a ludic concept about the music they like. They mind focus on many diferent ways to it. Is hard to share my music to them at least as we used to do with my wife and my friends.
Thanks for sharing! Yes, I think the lack of music-sharing is a huge part of this!
Is the resurgence of vinyl linked to this? It is a very deliberate act to listen to a vinyl record. There's a ritual attached to it. It seems vinyl requires a more active listening experience.
Definitely agree!
Fellow Gen X'er and old school punk here. I have two Gen Z sons, so I think about this a lot too. For as much as I want to believe X'ers all that special, the reality is that we were just the last generation to be perpetually bored. Boredom stimulates action and mental exploration. That boredom pushed us to explore deeper music than was on the Top40 stations. But when you have an Effortless Passive Entertainment Brick in your hand 24/7, you lose the ability to even tolerate short periods of boredom. And nowadays even Boomers and X'ers will pull out the Effortless Passive Entertainment Brick at the doctors office rather than have to endure 10 minutes of quiet contemplation (myself included). That leads to just mindlessly consuming all day instead of creating and exploring.
Luckily for me, my eldest did catch the music bug (since I constantly had some music playing his whole life). He and my wife are traveling to Los Angeles (our old home) tomorrow to catch the Skinny Puppy show. So at least I passed on the bug to one of them.
Skinny Puppy! Memories 😊🤘🏻 And I agree completely that boredom leads to creativity. Well said!
I didn't see his video, not sure why this one popped up in my feed, but whatever.
So much of it makes sense. I'm also an Xer and while I was never a huge music person (I tried, but I totally lack in creativity), I was still into music more than I think kids these days. But it was so easy to be bored back then, which is something that no longer exists. Too much stimulation now. And parents are making things worse by handing babies an iPad right after birth as a pacifier.
I'm trying to disconnect more and go back in time a little, but that something kids have no experience with, so I can't blame them.
Good points!
MTV and my Gen X cousins were my guides through music. I will also give a shoutout to my parents that not only had their rock albums playing for us but they us engage and apréciate the music. I am trying to do this with my young child. Although it’s not the same, I have two playlists that I play for him and I talk to him about why a particular means a lot to me. I hope I can inspire curiosity and love to music in him.
That is amazing that you are introducing him to music in that way!
Once again, Freeze The Fall is a Gen Z band that you need to see.
Glitch is their first video single.
I checked them out! I look forward to seeing more :)
As a boomer. I remember the excitement in my high school when big acts like Elton John, Pink Floyd, The Eagles, Doobie Bros., Santana or their ilk came to town. Everybody would be talking about it and hoping to get tickets. Miss those days.
Yes! Music was something that really brought people together!
Times have changed. I'm a troglodyte who still listens to satellite radio. Even on the stations that play newer material it's the same songs over and over again. Music has become a commodity. It also seems to be disposable. You basically listen to a song a few times and forget about it. Even some of the newer bands I like I'm not motivated to download their music. If I'm at a local show I'll pick up a CD to help the band. It would not surprise me if bands started selling their music on USB drives rather than CDs.. (If they aren't doing it already.)
It's definitely true that the same songs get played over and over on the radio...
I mentioned in a comment a few months back that music is a much more passive background experience for younger people. It's possibly a lot more spoon-fed to them as well, meaning there's less need to look for anything else. Modern music also has much less in the way of instrumentation, especially the guitar, so it's not surprising that younger people are less inspired to try to play, especially if they believe that they could just do it on a computer anyway. The music industry/media's total focus on major acts also probably means younger people's impression of a live concert is one at a stadium or arena, where really you are just seeing a packaged stage-managed product, that scores high on presentation, but is completely impersonal.
Great points!!!
I would give anything to change this so people can feel like I did when I first heard these albums, 8 tracks, and cassette tapes that just played over and over again to the point were one song ends - I start playing along to the next song before it even starts.
Ozzy Diary of a Madman
AC/DC Back and Black
Kiss Destroyer
Van Halen Diver Down Pink Floyd The Wall
All Beatles and Guns N Roses albums - well CD's. Oh and Metallica Black too.
And Jains Addiction Kettle Whistle.
You said name 10 right?
All Motley Crue & Rolling Stones recordings.
Great choices! :)
It's as old as time. Every generation thinks that the younger generations are lazy, stupid and not interested in anything. no offense to Rick Beato (whom I also like) Gen Z likes music but perhaps differently from previous generations
I think the relationship with music itself is different, but understandably so. :)
I love the video i hope more People see it
Thank you so much, I’m very glad you found it interesting 😊
Gen Z forgets that many of their fave Gen Z bands have 60s, 70s and 80s classic rock influences, most notably The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Rush, Jimi Hendrix, Journey, Queen, Van Halen, Aerosmith, Roxy Music, the Velvet Underground, The Cars, The Police, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Allman Brothers, Cream, and (post-punk bands like) The Smiths, Echo And The Bunnymen, and Joy Division. Pete Pardo from Sea of Tranquility consistently reviews new albums from newer artists (most notably Greta Van Fleet, Rival Sons, Mammoth WVH, Dirty Honey, Airbourne and countless other neo-classic rock or traditional hard rock/metal bands from the modern era that he digs,) while hoping to gain the support from Gen Z's more open-minded people who frequent his channel by the day. Ditto with The Contrarians Martin Popoff. He's doing the same thing in trying to lure those from Gen Z who are totally interested in REAL music.
Also there is a social aspect to music that has changed. Generations prior to Gen Z experienced a lot of music and bonded over a lot of music when going to bars or churches. Gen Z doesn't go to church as much -- and the portion of Gen Z old enough to go to bars doesn't go to bars, either.
Definitely a social component to this, I completely agree!
Deep listening is not dead
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Five albums in no particular order:
Led Zeppelin IV
Dark Side of the Moon
Kansas: Leftoverture
Rush: Moving Pictures
King Crimson: Discipline
Of course, there are more than that... 😉
Fantastic choices 😊🤘🏻
Rick Beato has been disappointed with Gen Z for a long time.
Why does he ignore The Warning then? Is it because, unlike his close friend David Bendeth, Rick isn't into lyrics of a song? Or he doesn't appreciate subtle instrumentation?
What a band is saying? How it is saying it? These are immaterial to him maybe.
Oddly enough, it was actually through Rick Beato that I found The Warning, because someone in the comments on a live brought them up, and I looked them up immediately after hearing they were an all female rock band. At the rate they are taking over the universe, however, I wouldn't be surprised if they got an interview with him. :)
Rick does, sadly, seem a little close-minded when it come to newer rock bands, and in particular ones from different parts of the world. I think part of that is from people flooding his comments saying "You need to check out Band-Maid!" etc, which can create a desire to not like something if people feel they are being hassled.
@@psychologyofrock I believe The Warning have got good connections in the industry through their family, so that might happen.
@@psychologyofrock Interestingly Rick Beato knows that The Warning attracts viewership. A few months back he published a long chat with David Bendeth. The Warning were mentioned in the title of the video where David talked about the girls for about 7 seconds or so when discussing present bands writing meaningful songs.
Rick was invited by David as a guest expert to judge a mixing contest for Money. The Warning joined in remotely by video call for about half an hour or so.
That's it about Rick Beato and The Warning.
Like I said in my original post, I think he is more into fast instrumentation than subtlety. Less is more - is not his style. Neither is lyrics of a song. What a band is saying and how it is saying doesn't matter to him that much. Come to think of it very few reactors analyse the deep metaphorical poetry penned by Pau in most of The Warning songs. She could have won literary awards had she published a book of poetry.
@@RevStickleback Rick Beato was a guest judge for David Bendeth's mixing contest for Money a few months back. The Warning dropped in through a video call for about half an hour or so before going on stage. Together they selected final 5 or 6 contestants as far as I remember.
Gen Z here. Music is my passion. I spend all of my free time listening to music, going to concerts, and playing guitar/bass. When my new Alienware desktop comes in, I’m gonna raise black metal hell!!!!
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Just wanted to say Hi
Hey Christina! :)
as a gen z that dislikes modern popular music. hiphop and rap included.
my peers continue to disappoint me. lmao
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Well, the guitar companies aren't helping at all. They sell the same guitar sold 50 years ago without modern features.
Guitars should have come with embedded computers with programs designed to teach and have fun like the video game Rock Band or even more sofisticated.
Guitars are stuck in the past and disconnected from modernity.
Interesting perspective, I hadn't thought of that :)
Rick Beato's great, but I take some of what he says about inter generational music with a grain of salt, he is of the Boomer age.
YoungZ loves music as much as any generation, but the music the like is different, more easy music factory made music and reggeaeton.... and this sort of Cardi B, Nicki Minaj, Thee Stallion etc music, hood music.
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eye tried ten times t0 put my list up but it aint stayn.
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anthrax- spreading the disease
slayer- reign in bl00d
Gen Z cares about music. They just happen to care about different music, there’s a difference. Take it from me, Gen Z, studying music education and classical music. Don’t lump us all in one box
Completely agree, that’s why I gave the big disclaimer at the beginning of the video!
Rick is definitely a boomer. I doubt he could name 5 Gen Z bands. He has good knowledge, but he can be pretty "old man yells at clouds".
Man... so sad. This world is so hard for me to recognize. Kids arent outside skating or biking anymore. They dont listen to music, they are all socialists... this is not looking good, and we created this world for them...
I can’t tell if this is sarcastic but it did give me a good laugh so thank you for that
Different priorities now for sure