Mark E Smith - The British Masters - Christmas Special - Part Two

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2013
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    John Doran of the Quietus meets Mark E Smith of pre-eminent rock group The Fall, in a special Christmas episode of our British Masters series where John interviews the most influential and colourful figures from British popular music history. In part two of the episode, John chats to Mark about his time in a wheelchair, the new EP and The Fall's current steady line up.
    In John's own words: "There are only a few things that separate us from the rest of the animal kingdom... the most important of these attributes, is an appreciation of the music of The Fall. This means if you do not listen to such albums as 'Hex Enduction Hour', 'This Nation's Saving Grace' and 'The Unutterable' you are worse than savage. The solution to what ails us is clear -- be less beastly, listen to The Fall"
    Previous British Masters have included Gary Numan, Johnny Marr, and Dizzee Rascal.
    See Part One here: • Mark E Smith - The Bri...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 194

  • @simonjenkin
    @simonjenkin 6 років тому +77

    I did indeed used to see him out and about in Prestwich. Usually coming out of Bargain Booze or sat inside The Forresters. Not that I'd ever approach the bastard as he once pushed me into a wall for having the temerity to exit the gents as he was stumbling in for a piss. He really was a true one off. RIP.

    • @IFeelSoTongueTied
      @IFeelSoTongueTied 4 роки тому +6

      Hands down the best comment I’ve ever read bless u

    • @davidrobinson2776
      @davidrobinson2776 3 роки тому +2

      Being abused by Mark was his version of an autograph or a selfie. He once scowled at me the stuck out his tongue. I left before he ruined the illusion.

  • @Robhalifax
    @Robhalifax 9 років тому +166

    Doran played that to perfection. Its a balancing act between humouring him and not acting like a sycophant.

    • @joshbeeson8447
      @joshbeeson8447 6 років тому +16

      Enjoyed it mate he’s a good interviewer they are almost extinct and he asked some good questions RIP mark

    • @nellsun2521
      @nellsun2521 5 років тому +11

      Exactly. Frank Skinner's sycophancy made me wince all the way through his interview. Seemed kinda phoney too.

    • @whatamalike
      @whatamalike 4 роки тому +6

      @@nellsun2521 "OY LUV YEW MAARK!" in a wank brummie accent.
      Yeah, skinner's bumlicking evidently bored Mark towards the end.

    • @christopherbrookfield4785
      @christopherbrookfield4785 3 роки тому +3

      Exactly. Like, a mutual respect kind of thing. I was never a big Fall fan, but I have always liked Mark E Smith. ✌️

    • @stephenwalker850
      @stephenwalker850 2 роки тому

      Well said , enjoy your night

  • @marclawson6144
    @marclawson6144 4 роки тому +42

    What a good mood he's in. He must have had just the right number of drinks.

  • @earinsound
    @earinsound 3 роки тому +9

    i love how his pint is magically replenished

    • @ndarcy92
      @ndarcy92 9 місяців тому +1

      like his liver.

  • @odw_99
    @odw_99 6 років тому +20

    RIP Mark E Smith. What a legend

  • @hunnymccann9349
    @hunnymccann9349 2 роки тому +5

    Had the pleasure of seeing The Fall at the Lead-mill, Sheffield. Mark was aware and a legend , we need people back in music like this.

  • @PontiacS.
    @PontiacS. 4 місяці тому +2

    This was Great. Mark E. was in such a Good Mood. Havin' Fun.

  • @soleknight3212
    @soleknight3212 5 років тому +22

    Very high quality interview all the way through. He has a way of compelling you (even when rambling). Could listen to MES talk for hours. Possibly the funniest human I ever heard. RIP you lovable bastard.

  • @wiggywaggo9647
    @wiggywaggo9647 5 років тому +39

    There's nothing I like to watch more when I'm pissed than mark smith interviews

    • @finnkdy
      @finnkdy 4 роки тому +3

      As he /you misses the spot,
      So wot.

    • @styxcreek
      @styxcreek 4 роки тому +2

      That laugh is infectious

    • @russelltodd7718
      @russelltodd7718 3 роки тому

      Yes sir...

  • @lewismurphy3692
    @lewismurphy3692 3 роки тому +19

    Forever grateful I discovered the fall, found them when I was 19, I’m 21 now and will have their brilliance for the rest of my life. What a pleasure.

  • @DragonFlagBand
    @DragonFlagBand 6 місяців тому +2

    Possibly one of the best interviews I've ever seen anywhere ever!!!

  • @xX88B88Xx
    @xX88B88Xx 10 років тому +13

    Love how it starts off with an immediate smackdown "It's not This Morning program d'you know what I mean" HA!

  • @1982alicealice
    @1982alicealice 9 років тому +35

    these two have really funny chemistry

    • @sebas5483
      @sebas5483 2 місяці тому

      Si si, es interesante la química de un borracho que odia las entrevistas y un adulador que se hace el interesante, nunca voy a entender el morbo de emitir estas entrevistas patéticas

  • @styxcreek
    @styxcreek 10 років тому +15

    Didn't understand half of what he said but still loved it. There's no one else quite like him.

  • @permaveg
    @permaveg 7 років тому +21

    "Do you ever get crazy fans knocking on your door" ? " ...not for long".

  • @sikthsikth
    @sikthsikth 8 років тому +61

    'The Panzer of Wheelchairs'

  • @filled_soda
    @filled_soda 10 років тому +11

    "Can I have this?" Classic.

  • @kingdozerr
    @kingdozerr 5 місяців тому +1

    The great and the only Mark E Smith

  • @PrincipledUncertainty
    @PrincipledUncertainty 3 роки тому +4

    Mark, amazed that his album exists, asks where it's available. Priceless.

  • @vollsticks
    @vollsticks 8 років тому +20

    An old (now, sadly deceased) friend of mine lived in Salford when Nico was living there--he used to see her at his smack dealers, they both scored off the same bloke.

    • @jalijali8448
      @jalijali8448 5 років тому +2

      She lived in Prestwich mid 80's

    • @Jlipnicki
      @Jlipnicki 2 роки тому +1

      Smack, granted but where did she go for a snack ? Was there a chippy ?

    • @vollsticks
      @vollsticks 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jlipnicki Yeah, some excellent ones, apparently

  • @PrincipledUncertainty
    @PrincipledUncertainty 10 років тому +33

    I love the Fall. Mark is one mad bastard though.

  • @iamdamosuzuki_
    @iamdamosuzuki_ 5 років тому +44

    I’m so depressed that I didn’t get into The Fall until Mark E. Smith had already died. Little did I know that “Hex Enduction Hour” would wind up being my favorite album of all time just a few months later.

    • @michellenachtigall7469
      @michellenachtigall7469 4 роки тому +8

      You and me both, man.

    • @dannycheesums
      @dannycheesums 4 роки тому +5

      This genuinely warms my soul guys :)
      I got into the Fall in 2001 and very quickly they were my favourite band. Went to see them live in 2005 and it was all old heads but by 2014 it was a whole range of ages at a fall gig.

    • @Smudgie
      @Smudgie 2 роки тому +5

      feel the same about Mozart.

    • @DragonFlagBand
      @DragonFlagBand 6 місяців тому

      It's never too late. The music will last forever. Pure genius!

    • @hackett999
      @hackett999 6 місяців тому +1

      Same! Makes me sad i didn’t listen to my dad 10 years ago when he told me to give it a go. Great album.

  • @StereoAnthony
    @StereoAnthony 7 років тому +7

    Johns big sigh right at the end, like he just made it through a war

  • @thirdratecontent585
    @thirdratecontent585 3 роки тому +8

    The interviews I rewatch most are Mark E Smiths and Lemmys 👍👍

  • @mikerophone235
    @mikerophone235 20 днів тому

    Mark E Smith laughing at his own jokes is the best laugh. RIP

  • @sambar0986
    @sambar0986 9 років тому +6

    The best part of this is Mark just having one of the records the interviewer gives him to sign at the end cos he doesn't have one himself.

  • @alboreham388
    @alboreham388 Місяць тому

    This is the best MES interview out there, imo. 🤣

  • @nickcassettes
    @nickcassettes 4 роки тому +30

    That Paul McCartney's looking rough.

  • @GranulatedStuff
    @GranulatedStuff 6 років тому +12

    "...the Panzer of wheelchairs" XD

  • @zorchproductions
    @zorchproductions 10 років тому +6

    Awesome... he's such a nice guy sometimes!

  • @alternatereality85
    @alternatereality85 10 років тому +3

    Great to see that theres life for Richard and Judy after their chat show. Great interview.

  • @jaydivisi0n
    @jaydivisi0n 10 років тому +4

    Please carry on making these! There's plenty of other British Masters out there!

  • @MrCoops5uk
    @MrCoops5uk 10 років тому +2

    Brilliant! National treasure.

  • @PrimeM92
    @PrimeM92 9 років тому +12

    gotta give it to him, he is funny as fuck! lol

  • @bluehuw
    @bluehuw 9 років тому +73

    Is there a harder gig in journalism than interviewing Mark E Smith? Taliban press officer?

    • @chescarino
      @chescarino 9 років тому +4

      Huw Evans shane macgowan

    • @sinisterbuthappy208
      @sinisterbuthappy208 7 років тому +3

      Charles Manson ?

    • @disabledoperator
      @disabledoperator 6 років тому +6

      you seen Lou Reeds interviews?

    • @mattslivovitz2947
      @mattslivovitz2947 6 років тому +5

      Plenty. He always seemed pretty affable to me - yeah, you couldn't get him to follow a premeditated script; he didn't suffer fools and he was liable to take the piss. It's not like he was a prima donna, though.

    • @iamdamosuzuki_
      @iamdamosuzuki_ 5 років тому +6

      Robert Fripp from King Crimson I’ve heard was quite an intimidating person to interview. I heard a story about one time he took an interviewer’s question cards and started reading them back to him.

  • @malcolmcog
    @malcolmcog 10 років тому +1

    Looking forward to the next album

  • @moderntart-nr2bu
    @moderntart-nr2bu 22 дні тому

    He was class

  • @devout666
    @devout666 9 років тому +2

    Have watched this over and over, John Doran is excellent, but borderline terrified!

  • @raythemechanic
    @raythemechanic 10 років тому +3

    brilliant stuff, really enjoyed it.

  • @nickj2704
    @nickj2704 5 місяців тому +1

    "longest stable line up of the fall", famous last words

  • @ericrhodes5174
    @ericrhodes5174 6 років тому +15

    Rest in peace, pub philosopher

  • @gringopig
    @gringopig 6 років тому +17

    1:00 that look speaks volumes

  • @manyspaceships
    @manyspaceships 10 років тому +9

    Doran did great job.

  • @kaptainhammer
    @kaptainhammer 10 років тому +1

    Yes Mark !!!

  • @arsmithx
    @arsmithx 6 років тому +6

    Have you ever tried playing a Fall 12" record at 45rpm? Beezer! Smithy sounds like Les Dawson doing a fishwife impression.

  • @colthepirate
    @colthepirate 10 років тому +1

    ta for that John. I love a good MES interview

  • @lui.s.e7400
    @lui.s.e7400 2 роки тому

    Love this guy..listen to The Fall still and feel marginally contented, because I don't do joy, and I adore Mark E. Smith.

  • @jefferyweigand1337
    @jefferyweigand1337 6 років тому +2

    "The Panzer of wheelchairs..." Fucking Smith, one of the funniest fellows ever...

  • @321bytor
    @321bytor 3 роки тому

    Mark E Smith. Lovely

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 2 роки тому +2

    Love the Rowley Birkin QC in him.

  • @fosterch11
    @fosterch11 5 років тому +2

    At 2:20 where he says, "Last time I was broke..." - there's a commercial for frozen food.

  • @yodab.at1746
    @yodab.at1746 3 роки тому +1

    The Walder Fraye of.... Something??....
    Brilliant interview

  • @Plastico48
    @Plastico48 3 роки тому +2

    Mark E Smith and Stone Cold Steve Austin the only 2 people I know who have ever had a designated beer giver.

  • @officialmcdeath
    @officialmcdeath 6 років тому +1

    Fookin guitars!

  • @Andy-fr2im
    @Andy-fr2im 6 років тому +1

    comedy gold RIP Mark

  • @FadGadget1
    @FadGadget1 3 роки тому +4

    The panzer of wheelchairs! 😂😂😂

  • @zetetick395
    @zetetick395 7 років тому +4

    5:24 loooool XDDD
    How on earth did Mark E Smith become one of the most lovable frontmen ever?? O_o

  • @BoboDoboRobo
    @BoboDoboRobo 4 роки тому +8

    It’s not This Morning program is it

  • @danielcactus3953
    @danielcactus3953 10 років тому +25

    Mark has got to a point where his look is again (more or less) matching with his real age.
    For anybody thinking that Mark has had a terrile aging, they must consider that for man who hasn´t work out in his life and who by this day still drinks three pints on a interview on absolute daylight, mark has hold on quite well.
    Mark could have been much more of a genius with maybe, lets say, only a third part of the abuse he´s taken. Respect the man anyway

    • @danielcactus3953
      @danielcactus3953 10 років тому +1

      ***** I´m a deffinetly a fall fan, but come on, there is a lot of things I would have changed if somehow I had control over this music.
      I would say that almost half of the songs on their entire carrer are actually not just wacky, but not good, sometimes.
      Anyway, try to play that other 50% I´m talking about to a common public. They would go crazy about it and tell you to take some serious therapy.
      What bands do you consider as good as the fall ? Just kurious.

    • @Anony_mouse2
      @Anony_mouse2 4 роки тому +2

      @@danielcactus3953 Pere Ubu 🤔

    • @chaunceyloveshack9530
      @chaunceyloveshack9530 2 роки тому +1

      @@danielcactus3953 i think the first decade was all incredible, but the genius started to show less and less as the years went by and the abuse took its toll. so i understand your sentiment.

    • @bernicia-sc2iw
      @bernicia-sc2iw Рік тому +1

      @@chaunceyloveshack9530 More precisely I would say 79-85 was the pinnacle of the group . After that there were many peaks and troughs .

  • @nickgrant2906
    @nickgrant2906 2 роки тому +1

    john doran and luke turner make journalism mean something

  • @noelrushton2322
    @noelrushton2322 10 років тому +3

    Top Geezer is Mark

  • @gazriley624
    @gazriley624 6 років тому +1

    R.I.P Mark seen The Fall in Liverpool years ago in the 80's

  • @dannyriley3882
    @dannyriley3882 10 років тому +6

    when are you interviewing Julian Cope fer chrissakes

  • @thechapelperilous
    @thechapelperilous 10 років тому +13

    Matt Johnson please.

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult 8 місяців тому

    I remember bacck when MES was in a wheelchair, calling it the PANZER of wheechairs :)

  • @oolongoolong789
    @oolongoolong789 7 років тому +4

    Not really an interview. Just Mark being Mark.

  • @HandleGF
    @HandleGF 3 роки тому +3

    The Wealdstone Raider tribute act

  • @radiomindchatter7994
    @radiomindchatter7994 2 роки тому

    I can't understand 3 quarters of what he is saying but I like it...

  • @gringopig
    @gringopig 6 років тому +3

    Oh man, he's funny. Sad to see now but he wouldn't give a shit. He lived his own life.

  • @kikoaumond3439
    @kikoaumond3439 Рік тому

    May I suggest this video to be watched with the auto-generated captions on. The captions turn out nothing like what Mark is saying (I am guessing here because I understood 50% of what he says at best) but the auto-generated captions read like Fall lyrics.

  • @Stratboy999
    @Stratboy999 11 місяців тому +1

    Q: 'Do you ever get crazy fans knocking on your door?' MES: 'Not for long....'

  • @robertmorrison2959
    @robertmorrison2959 6 років тому +4

    nobody lives where i live still

  • @krruns4165
    @krruns4165 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know where this interview was recorded?

  • @mrjamescurry
    @mrjamescurry 5 років тому +4

    The Real Deal - greatly missed

  • @underdawg2743
    @underdawg2743 Місяць тому

    Shame I moved to Prestwich 5 years too late......

  • @Warp75
    @Warp75 6 років тому +3

    MES RIP

  • @kylemclachlan8651
    @kylemclachlan8651 2 роки тому

    6:47 the quintessential MES sound

  • @youyatubetak7624
    @youyatubetak7624 3 роки тому +1

    the interviewer trying to stick to his 'script' ha ha ha

  • @nickmaffia1746
    @nickmaffia1746 3 роки тому +1

    I like Arctic pumpkins.

  • @lehliladevandria5712
    @lehliladevandria5712 4 роки тому +1

    If you pay attention to Shaun Rider's attitude, swagger,and poetry style....it's very similar to Mark E. Smith.

    • @MaliciousChickenAgenda
      @MaliciousChickenAgenda 4 роки тому

      I haven't heard Happy Monday's in years. My brother loves them

    • @lehliladevandria5712
      @lehliladevandria5712 4 роки тому

      @@MaliciousChickenAgenda awww it sounds like your brother is nice.

    • @underdawg2743
      @underdawg2743 4 роки тому +1

      Not really, Shaun sobered up yrs ago.

  • @markclifton4107
    @markclifton4107 4 роки тому +1

    haha classic.

  • @nath909
    @nath909 10 років тому +6

    "The men in black, yeah?"

  • @owenmartin3307
    @owenmartin3307 Рік тому

    What did he say about lou Reed anybody catch that?

  • @Robhalifax
    @Robhalifax 10 років тому +3

    He's looking quite well. Looks like we've got a few years left.

    • @NP-lz2bx
      @NP-lz2bx 4 роки тому +8

      Care to predict how long I've got?

    • @popyarns462
      @popyarns462 3 роки тому +2

      This has aged badly

    • @Robhalifax
      @Robhalifax 3 роки тому +3

      @@popyarns462 He managed another 4 years.

    • @popyarns462
      @popyarns462 3 роки тому

      @@Robhalifax I know. I assumed that you were hoping for a little more life than that. But fair enough if you had such an accurately bleak prognosis in mind, if so you nailed it.

    • @RT-zk7yr
      @RT-zk7yr 3 місяці тому

      ​@@popyarns462he said a few years and he was correct

  • @InstallaFriend
    @InstallaFriend 7 років тому +4

    'the gloup'

    • @nellsun2521
      @nellsun2521 5 років тому

      "...they're so happy to be here..."

  • @mayhem492
    @mayhem492 Рік тому +1

    Love Mark, but he always seemed to be interviewed by people that seem to be in awe of him, a bit like Lydon, Zappa etc. It would have been nice to see him/them ‘taken on’ a bit more, by someone with some balls.

  • @xyzxyz997
    @xyzxyz997 2 роки тому

    Dear, dear

  • @leoodonnell5895
    @leoodonnell5895 7 місяців тому

    he was right about the cameras

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult Рік тому

    MES gives the perfect balance to the Royals. King of the Britons.

  • @TWENTYSEVENSTORIES
    @TWENTYSEVENSTORIES 5 років тому +1

    Metal Jesus was good on this.

  • @rs19147
    @rs19147 3 роки тому +1

    Part One and Part Two combined he's about 5 pints deep. Nutcase of man. But fucking great.

  • @sinisterbuthappy208
    @sinisterbuthappy208 7 років тому +13

    Stephen Hawking ...........a Mark E Smith side project ?

  • @ichhasseamerika
    @ichhasseamerika 4 роки тому

    What happened to music?

  • @atomizerdonster
    @atomizerdonster 11 місяців тому

    the pumpkins

  • @MrDLOC11
    @MrDLOC11 4 роки тому +5

    He ain't like everybody else so don't expect the same.

  • @kazman_6899
    @kazman_6899 9 місяців тому

    If you squint, you can see a young MES. Freaky.

  • @misdiagnosed3027
    @misdiagnosed3027 4 роки тому +3

    You must get a lot of offers to do Hex in full?
    Oh yeah, last time was in 2001?
    We are now in 2020 this interview was five years ago?
    Meaning he gets asked on average once every 14 years, so not a lot then.

  • @terrypussypower
    @terrypussypower 3 роки тому +6

    Smith reminds me of Shane McGowan, in some ways. A talented bloke who wasted his talent on alcohol addiction.

    • @uhgottadime
      @uhgottadime 3 роки тому +2

      I think the difference between the two is that Mark always had a strong work ethic and was perceived more as an intellectual than Shane. Branding him as the drunken paddy and what not. But Shane's still here despite the life he had! Crock of Gold documentary is a must see!

    • @terrypussypower
      @terrypussypower 3 роки тому

      @@uhgottadime Too right! And who'd have bet on that back in the 90's!

    • @harrygallagher8105
      @harrygallagher8105 3 роки тому +3

      Would you call the falls discography as a waste of talent?

    • @deborahcondeccarr6269
      @deborahcondeccarr6269 3 роки тому +1

      Mark e Smith didn’t waste one moment of his talent. He worked right to end of his life . An absolute phenomenal body of work left behind. So missed by me and easily another 10,000 fall fans I’m certain.....

    • @terrypussypower
      @terrypussypower 3 роки тому +3

      @@harrygallagher8105 Once the 2000's kicked in, The Fall just weren't the same any more. I was spoiled rotten on The Fall because I was there from their first single onwards, and saw them countless times during their peak years and saw all of the line - ups live, bootlegging most of those gigs as I went!
      And it was a hard thing to witness Mark's slow decline into alcohol addiction, and it was the drink that f*cked him, not the speed. If he'd just stuck to speed he'd have been fine and the gigs wouldn't have suffered.
      Some of those later gigs were painful to watch....what with Mark messing about with the amps and suchlike, ruining the sound and pissing off the rest of the group, and for no gain at all.

  • @PAULLONDEN
    @PAULLONDEN 4 роки тому +2

    Legend..but he came over as someone who couldn't handle his drink....
    Might've had to do with his health problems .........

  • @klangding
    @klangding 9 років тому

    Whose house is that? Looks like it could do with a lick of paint. Trust the fucking Quietus to skimp on the decor.