Installing REDUCTION GEARS into a GQ/GU PATROL
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Jones & I are installing 63% reduction gears from Marks 4wd Adapters into our transfer cases to crawl slower with 35" & 37" tyres. We like the speed our high range gears are already with the 4.11 diff gears for the TD42 but we need to be able to crawl slow in low range.
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i just did 85 reductions last week in my gu, those extra ball bearings and pin stuffed me over hard, i spent hours trying to figure them out and only worked it out via some exploded diagrams from nissan europe
Haha yeah I did the same thing, it’s weird in the GU ones how they have 4 ball bearings rather than a spring and a ball like the Q ones
@@timmyhasheart yea really confused me as my mate had just done his GQ case and had no idea about the balls when I showed him so we were both in the dark
Nice one 👍🤠
Cheers Shad! 👌🏻
Do you run 4.1s with your 37s and ran them with 35s prior?
I like the idea of going reduction gears rather than 4.6s.
Also, as a fitter and turner, I loved watching this 😂. Hammer swinging, using the old bearings, dirty parts. It was an absolute party!! Loved it! Great channel and awesome it’s a a bloke from my hometown of launny!
Hahaha sorry you had to see all that, she’s a backyard job mate they’re still running with no issues yet 😆
Yeah 4.11 with TD torque range works perfectly on 37’s, 100kmph at 2200 in 4th, 110kmph at 2100 in 5th ✅
I run 37s on 4.1 diffs, definitely driveable on road, if you want to match the feel of 4.1s on 35a go to a 4.3 diff.
37’s and 4.11 for the win, couldn’t agree more. TDS are a high comp, low RPM torquey engine.. it’s like people who put 6bts in.. they don’t go to fuckin 4.6’s haha, they go to 3.5’s. face palm dude. 👍🏻 only issue I had was low range hence the reductions.
Hey mate, looking at getting a set of these. Did you get yours off Andrew Rowland?
Yeah mate 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Killer! Been waiting for this one to drop, as it's been on my list that I was ment to do over a year ago. Cheers
Nice man, it’s not a perfect how to, follow the instructions for that, but if you ever do it it’ll help just with the order of things and putting it back together because it’s a bit of a jigsaw you have to put them back a certain way.
The internal looks like R33 gtr 4wd component
Same make, era & purpose dude I dare say they’d be pretty similar!
Hey mate, how long does it take to complete?
Oh like a night in the shed? Few hours?
OG boys do it best. 👍🔥
Cheers mate 🙏🏻👊🏻
You’ve done that before lol
What hydraulic bearing puller is that?
Only once before! 😅 just one from total tools came in a big kit!
its your channel and money, but is there a way you can deafen the noise from your car vlog?
Hahaha sorry mate, it’s easy to think about what I’m gonna say in the car, it’s the only time my ADHD ass is sitting still long enough to film talking 😅
nice 👌 great video! thinking to put 63% on my GU !
would be great to see how it goes on the track !
Thanks mate! One of the best things I ever did mate! And with 4.11 and a TD I think 63 is absolutely perfect. If I had a petrol I’d be tempted to go 85. 🙏🏻
Can confirm, 63% with 35” tyres and 4.6 diffs is a winning combo too.
Thanks for this, one question would it be worth a quick pressure clean and degrease before you started?
Ahh like the outside of the case? If that kind of thing fancies you for sure wouldn’t hurt, this thing is going back under a 4wd so it doesn’t really need to be shiny for us. 👊🏻
@@timmyhasheart fair enough too, was just thinking of working on.
Great video, thanks for sharing mate. I’d happily watch a longer video with more detail filmed 👍
Yeah I know, I don’t reaaaaaaally want people copying my every move though haha, it’s more about a rough guide and showing what I’m up to
@@timmyhasheart fair enough mate.
In the GU, did you ever get your 4WD switch to work?
Yeah mate. 4wd switch works, it’s different to a GQ, it just has ball bearings behind the switch. Where as the GQ has a spring and 1 ball bearing. If you reach out on Insta I can send you a screenshot from the manual. 👍🏻
@@timmyhasheart legend, thanks mate. 63% , 35"s and 4.6 diffs is a killer combo. Air locked obviously
I agree for a petrol but tbh I’d never go over 4.11 for a diesel they’re not made to rev, I run 4.11 with 37 and it puts me bang into my torque range for all gears it’s perfect. And yeah 63’s are perfect for an all rounder.
Hey mate, how long did it take you guys to do the reductions? I’ve got some 85s for my ZD that I’m about to have a go at putting them in
Ahhh like just a night in the shed? Few hours?
@@timmyhasheartis that all? All the workshops I called were saying it would take at least 10-12 hours 🤣
@mitchelljohnson1621 haha na na maybe if you have a couple of blow outs or things go wrong? But I think probably any sane person it would take 5hrs max, but more like 3-4
@@timmyhasheartthanks mate, keep up the good work. I would be keen to see the gu having some action as well
@@timmyhasheart is this including removal, rebuild and install?
Good to see the front drive shaft is in the right way
🫣😆🙏🏻
Got 85s in my Gu crawls like a champ
Nice 👌🏻👌🏻 I’d definitely go 85 if it was a dedicated crawler for sure
@@timmyhasheart bit over kill for a tourer like I've got 😂 but the control is amazing, very good for backing trailers too
Yeah for sure, slower is always the go, it’s just if you are in hilly country or bogholes or even on tracks where you’re covering a great distance, I’m quite often already going between 3rd and 4th with the 63% so wouldn’t wanna be using 5th under too much load or switching to high range all the time that’s all. But it’s also preference. Whatever works, works, the 63% for me so far is bloody unreal. Compared to what it was. Trying to crawl with 37’s and 4.11’s pre-reductions, especially descending was a nightmare with the shitty vacuum in GQs
@@timmyhasheart yeah I find I go back and forth from low to high probably too often but I like being able to take off on a hill with no effort
Yeah, it’s all a compromise anyway with wheeling, it’s always better at one thing for the cost of something else 🫡
Wish i knew how to do all this stuff
To be fair.. I didnt even know how to do it until I did mine, that’s how I knew how to do Jonesys, and even then I’m just winging it haha bashing bearings with a hammer etc.
@@timmyhasheart you do pretty good mate. Even with the chop you did a good job. I thort u must have been a mechanic or something along those lines
@@timmyhasheartis it worth having a crack yourself or just taking to a shop? Looking at doing the same to mine but un sure if I try myself or get someone to do it
@saezarscanlan840 well you could do what I did? Just buy a cheap secondhand transfer off marketplace and build the gears into that so your car isn’t off the road and you can take as long as you want and if you get stuck take it in
@@timmyhasheart not really worried about Ute being off the road while I do it, more just worried about stuffing it up, but I like the idea of buying a trans case to put the gears into
Without the reductions, 35s were so sketchy in the Vic high country. Now i can actually crawl down steep tracks fully loaded up for long trips.
Yeah mate most people don’t even consider the descending benefits, that was really the push over the edge for me.. the inability to descend slowly, especially with GQ vacuum it’s just sketch
I run a custom built dual transfer case set up in my 86 Navara dual cab .
I have 36 forward gears and 6 reverses .thankyou
Nice! Those old buses have awesome ways to crawl slow, hiluxs can have dual transfers too
See
Marlin crawler !
great video ! Go the Patrol! been waiting for someone to do a new video on this! 📹🛻😎🤙
ur lucky having all the tools and the work bench to be able to perform these upgrades!
63% wow! that's alot ! how's it go with ur diff ratios and tyre size ?
63% is perfect for an all around wheeler, beach, mud, rocks etc. but if I was in a petty or a dedicated crawler I’d go 85% and maybe even reduce the diffs too.
I buy all the right tools the first time when doing jobs it’s just so much easier than trying to make other shit do.. as for a work bench this was at Jonesys house I’m not as lucky haha. Cheers dude 🙏🏻