DEFECTED by POLICE! Engineering the Patrol! ROAD LEGAL on 35'S! Swerve and brake test
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- Опубліковано 1 лют 2025
- After having my Patrol defected and removed from the roads, I give an depth look into how engineering a 4wd works and what it took to get my GU road legal.
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These types of episode is why I'm fan of your channel. Very open and candid. You created a huge buzz in the industry when you did your roof rack weight rating episode. So much so, other 4WD UA-camrs did their own roof rack weight rating episodes. I'm sure it's the reason Rhino Rack has now improved their website and finding weight rating for their roof racks is so much easier. I wonder how much buzz this will generate this time? Well done Tyler.👍
Thanks mate!
Couldn’t agree more with this
Fully agree with you Fatman.
we had a cop, come to the 4x4 club. to talk on 4x4 mods..i sold my 4x4. not worth having one. this country is fkt..4x4rs have car laws.3/4''tires, 2'' lift. car laws..absolutly bs..fkn nanny country. if they started up an accessory shop,dealers, like in u.s. the gov would make a sht load more money from tax. instead of 4k from you.. i own an f250 highboy, 1975. its 26'' to the sill,,std..factory..engineers are glorified fk wits..&, it should be illegal, banned, to raise any,ifs 4x4. they are not,4x4rs..new vehicles, hilux,ect, fail the moose test..swerve to you.. there aint no moose in aus..it was adopted here..if its illegal to fit 3-5'' lifts on your vehicle, without an engineer fkng your ass for 4k.. they shouldnt be sold..period.. 1 thing you missed,,was the diff ratio..it has to be changed with bigger wheels..tell the fk wit that..or low range will kill you, being faster down hill..plus , worse in an auto,,there death traps std..
This is why I love your channel. Very open and honest with useful information. I'm not ready for engineering yet but this was a great heads up on what I need sooner rather than later.
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it!
@@TylerThompson90 A 2 inch suspension lift + going from a 31's to 33's is a 1 inch lift = 3 inches or around a 75mm total lift. Also is the lift measured from the bottom of the frame/body(at factory recomended tyre pressures) or what the advertised size increase is ?
you know why its 4k to engineer a 4x4 dont you..so most people will not bother..this guy should watch petersons 4x4 adventures. he,ll die of heart attack..
Bought a 105 cruiser running 35's and a 3" lift - apart from steering like a ship I also got knocked back a pre rego check - out with the old lift and tyres at a cost! More needs to be said about this! Well done on educating peeps!
Been watching a few "backyard" fab and mod video series.....
This video is the first of yours, and I can tell straight away the rest are light years behind you and your build.
You speak succinctly, no waffling, no silly crapping on about how sick or mint things are.... You've given good, honest info, all set out in a clear format
Thank you very much for all that info, so very relevant for those of us looking to buy similar soon.
And the out-takes 🤣
A very interesting episode to see what you have to go through in AUS. Here in the UK we have nothing like this. Any lift,any tyre size is ok and the first thing most people do is take off the anti roll (sway) bars and throw them out! As long as the tyres are within the arches or flares and the headlights are adjusted down to not dazzle you are fine.
What about insurance companies, don't they use the modifications as a reason to void cover ?
Great video, i went to Sydney for the GVM upgrade on my Y62, the bloke i used is a GU specialist although he’s fast becoming a Y62 expert as well, the Tamworth mob asked for a bunch of unnecessary stuff and a ridiculous price
Another Great Video.... They must be cracking down, more scaring than fining people. I got pulled over coming through Richmond (Lithgow to Sydney) I was told that my 4wd was illegal, but when I questioned him, the police officer couldn't give me a straight answer. I have a 2 inch lift with 285/75r16 (32.8 inch) tyres on it. he then walked around my 4wd, in the end he let me go but pretty much told me not to go through Windsor/Richmomnd area as I might be so lucky next time.
if this is the only mods, you are 100% legal, no cert is required
Well done mate , you have a lot of patience- it is great that you used quality Aussie components. Great lesson too all, I had too do the same with my Patrol in nsw , I was fortunate that all my lift kit / brake upgrade/ engine performance upgrades/ lights and light bars/ fuel tanks / water tank / air system / upgraded tyres/ battery bank / twin alternators ect all passed and I have the engineer certification for all, but I still get stopped every now and then but once I show the paperwork all is good. My insurance company is also happy , just a quick note I did increase my GVM TO 3.5 tonnes which allowed me to have stronger drive components which in turn gives me both great on road comfort but great of road capabilities with limited fuss.
can you pm me about this trying to get 35's on 4" done with hybrid superflex kit..thinking of bendix 4" kit but no one up here in QLD I can find whom even engineers patrols anymore for Y61
Nailed it again Tyler. Great video. This is info everyone needs regardless of the state.
Hey Tyler, that was an excellent insight into the process of having your vehicle engineered. Great to have allowed you to film some segments of the actual processes...
Great it passed. 👏🚙👍
Cheers mate
in iceland you can go 54 inch. but fenders must cover tires and car must get inspected. probably even larger than 54 if you find sutable road legal tires that make sense for snow driving.
Very informative. That bloke is a legend for letting us see the process
That was really insightful. Thanks for the vid. The test guy seemed very reasonable and thorough. Nice work all round.
Glad you enjoyed it!
That was an extremely interesting episode. Quite the process and cost. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers!
Awesome video mate, cheers! If your 4WD is engineered, can you add another 2' life and 7% bigger tyres? hehehe
Great information here. Superb insight into the engineering process. I'm from NSW too and based on what was covered here, my 1996 Landcruiser 80 Series petrol is well within the allowable modifications before engineering is required (ie. 50mm lift, standard size tyres (32"), and OEM exhaust). Thanks for sharing.👍👍
BTW Tyler, did you cover seats with the engineer? Is changing the OEM seats require an engineer's certificate?
this is one of the best videos i have seen for ages im not a 4x4 , but motorcyclist , there are a lot of 4x4 s getting around and this video may just jog someone which is driving around with these mods without getting them checked and passed . good work Tyler
Thank god we don't have tough regulations like you guys here in the UK 🏴👍
why? So you can do whatever you like to your vehicle even if it makes it unsafe and a risk to others?
I've heard when you go from 32" tyres to 33" the headlights turn into machine guns and the cruise control becomes a pedestrian target locking device
Meh - don’t need tough regs when you guys roll on 31’s😁
but then you pay 3k a year for a 1.2 shitbox in insurance
Congrats Tyler on the certification! 🤙. I’m sure that’s a very big deal and a huge weight off your chest, both for legal and safety reasons…. It makes me realize and feel a lot more on how much leniency but also on how much more risky, as far as safety is concerned, things are here in the US. We have NONE of those requirements. Except emissions, and possibly GVM but unless you’re in an accident and insurance has to get involved is when “potentially” it could come into play. Everything else is an easy pass here. I come from a mechanical engineering background so doing things correctly and in spec for my families and others sake is extremely important to me, so it was nice to see all the things that are necessary to have a properly engineered vehicle and what is expected after upgrading and adding mods. And it was also nice to see I have most of those things done. 💪. I would very much like to have a brake test performed even though I upgraded mine. I took plenty of notes. Thanks for this brother… 🙏
Good to see Australia is taking care of their people, even though it may be a bit of a hassle. ❤️🇦🇺
Curious, does your front sway bars need to be installed for it to pass too?
coil suspension allways has swaybars. this engineering is a money grab. im in a 4x4 club, we had a cop talk about mods.. next day you sell your 4x4, cos it aint worth having one. i have a 1975 highboy. cut to swb, 4w disc, 351, 5sp, lockers. 35,s. 26'' to sill. not raised.. metal dash, ford leather s/wheel. 82 bronco sas. 02 s/duty,3'' lift, 35,s. 62 f100 4x4, 352 fe.. &,,a dodge chall r/t 340.. in aus.. were treated like 3 yr olds here. there is no 4x4 industry. just b/bars, r/racks, winches, no d o m . no johny joints, no doublers, no unshitable uni,s. fk all..stupid thing is, you can raise the vehicle 3'' with std pizza cutters..is that safe..no fkn way..comment in u.s. was, if you raise vehicle 3'', get 3'' bigger tires.. to offset weight.centre..even slotted drilled discs are illegal.. i have 4 on the h/boy..sssshhhhh......its illegal....even s/s b/lines, were illegal..this country is fkt..stay home wear your mask,die...thank you for complying..
@@harrywalker968 Slotted drill discs are legal
Nice work mate and that you are open and honest. It is important that your vehicle is safe for you to use but also other road users as well. I think that is one thing others forget.
Had my 2002 Zd30 Engineered on Thursday (rear seat removal and fitout, and Exhaust system) car is 50m lifted and slightly wider tires , other than that pretty normal. Cost was $895, and took all up 4.5 hrs. Biggest pain was the time it takes to get an engineer. But all done now.
Great Content Mate good to see what goes on behind the scenes
I think every four-wheel-drive I should see this video. Before they even think about changing anything on The vehicle. Well done Tyson Thompson about time someone done a very well informed video about the subject.
Wow what an interesting and informative video. You're the only one who actually shows the whole process and now it's much more understandable.
Nice one Tyler not enough people talking about this on youtube
Thanks for covering this. It;s not something I had thought about much. Its good to know the limits and costs.
It's fascinating what you have to go through to modify a vehicle in Australia, come to Oregon USA it's a lot different - My rock crawling rig here in Oregon runs 37" tires, no sway bars, and some fun suspension adding up to a 5" lift, not to mention the lack of tire coverage, doors, or roof - and my neighbor state patrolman has said numerous times that there's nothing that would stop me driving down the public roads, here except for maybe mud flaps. It's noisy and you don't want to swerve too hard, sometimes I think it might be better we have a little stricter rules... sometimes not.
Not all parts of Australia. Lot's of unstable, or overloaded looking 4WDs driving around Queensland even in the large cities.
@@richardpowell1425 but it is all parts here is stupid on modification just some areas just don't bother enforcing it
Sounds dangerous but the states does have some pretty high statistics concerning injuries and death as a result of neglect and a or lack of sensible regulations in many areas.
Sounds dangerous but the states does have some pretty high statistics concerning injuries and death as a result of neglect and a or lack of sensible regulations in many areas.
Sounds dangerous but the states does have some pretty high statistics concerning injuries and death as a result of neglect and a or lack of sensible regulations in many areas.
Didn’t know an extra long range fuel tank needed engineering. I learnt something new today! Cheers Tyler!!
Basically any mod needs to be engineered. If you fit a bull bar, it changes the length of the vehicle, it’s not compliant to what the car was out of the factory.
@@raymondhayne1250
If you fit an aftermarket bullbar that is the same size as a factory optioned bullbar does it still have to be engineered?
@@dangray5932 there is a lot of grey areas about what does and doesn’t need to be engineered. I could tell you one thing and it could be the exact opposite. Fitting a bull bar and a rear wheel carrier will alter the length of the vehicle, there for it isn’t the length that is on the compliance. Same as if you put off camber tyres and it makes the car 3inches wider, it not to compliance so yeah technically it needs to be done
That is a first...Never seen a UA-cam channel investing a dedicated video clearing such kind of stuff for audience...Good on you mate.
Honest and humble, good video.
Great vid, nice to see some of the behind the scenes testing that’s involved with the whole process. Will be going through this process later this year to get my duramax converted patrol legal here in SA. Hoping to get it done with the current 4” lift and going up to 35’s from the current 33’s. Quote was about $5k to get it signed off.
Hi Tyler, thanks for taking the time to do this video. I have enjoyed watching the process you've gone through and it's nice to see a positive interaction with the police given others experiences that have been posted on UA-cam in the recent past.
Wow. I watched this video because I had no idea what “defected” even meant. As an American viewer, seeing what you have to go through to modify a vehicle in Australia seems outrageous. I guess you’re used to it there, but we don’t have anything like that here (except maybe in Commi-fornia) and if they tried to enact it, people in the off-road community would go absolutely off the rails in rebellion. I feel sorry for you guys over there that want to live the off-road life. It looks hard and very expensive. I certainly makes me appreciate the freedom we have in the U.S. Love your channel though. I appreciate your honesty, openness and in depth info, behind the scenes stuff and it’s interesting to see what it’s like there compared to here. Cheers mate!
Yeah a lot of people over here are fairly frustrated with how it all works! Thanks for watching mate
Cheers Tyler this helps me out alot, slowly working my way to getting my GQ engineered in NSW. You have opened my eyes up alot more and made me realise there are some extra parts I need to get😂. Cheers brother
Humble and informative, loved the video mate, and respect to you for the bloopers you left in💪
There's this young fella in my town who drives around in his full-on comp rig GU Patrol with 37's and at least 7 inch overall lift. He said he's been stopped by the police a few times but they are so impressed by the build, it looks so professionally done that they have never tried to defect him. This is in Queensland.
Tyler these Type of Episodes make your Channel so different to the rest. Fantastic great work, Keep them coming.
Glad you like them!
Thank you for sharing this story!
My "Highlux" (nick name) is fitted with the Superior Engineering 4" lift kit. (Already fitted when I bought it.)
This kit doesn't change any of the suspension angles etc from standard but does change the chassis height. This increases the approach, ramp over and departure angles only.
Attached to the firewall is a QLD modification plate with a code number. The vehicle was sold to me as engineered (by the plate) but it turns out that the plate is for the long range tank not the suspension lift!
I have had no issues with registering it over the last 3 years as it sits but I'm not sure if it is intact engineered properly. There is nothing noted on my registration papers in regards to modification.
Having watched your great video, I'm now going to check with the RMS as to where I stand!
Keep the great videos coming!
A Qld mod plate is only relevant to Qld rego so if you engineer a car in another state and then transfer rego it means jack all
In order for it to have been re-registered in NSW, would it have not passed without the relevant engineering required?
This is why I'm going to check if its been done or not. To much confusion!
It’s great that you gave an honest and straight forward video on your experience with the defect and the process that you went through. Good video 👍🏼😎
Great vid 👍This is the information that will help many Tyler, hopefully you didn't get stung with a big bill.
Great video I'm just about to go through this process with my supercharged 6ltr 105 series.
Well done. Well produced and definitely very interesting. Thanks for the very valuable information. 👍
Thanks Tyler, and some still think cheap is best. This is one of the reasons "Brand Name" gear isn't at eBay prices. Love your honesty. Great report.
Thanks for putting this video up and appreciate the content. Well done Tyler.
Mate, your certainly not the only one to drive without and engineering cert! There are a lot of very dangerous looking 4x4s on the road!
Thanks for the video. Very informative. I can understand why the certification is so detailed and subsequently rather costly. The different state requirements are a prime reason why our country's Federation requires a major review.
Excellent video. I'm with the other's on why I follow your channel. Excellent reviews and you just say it as it is. Keep up the great work.
Much appreciated!
yo im from port area aswell! running a big green 75 series with roof extension. love this talk! is a good topic alot more people need to be aware of
Very straightforward vid on the modification and engineering process in NSW that otherwise honestly seems to be a bit of dark art. Cheers for demystifying everything somewhat! 🍻
What about the beadlock wheels, r they engineered
Thank you for your information far more easy explained information and details then other channels great content
Top vid mate. Interesting insight into the engineered modification process.👍 I totally agree - spend the money and get it done right first time. Saves hassles (big & small) in the future. Btw the mods look great👌
What a thorough process the Engineer did. Good video.
fantastic content, explained in a very easy to understand way. thanks Tyler. Keep these videos coming..
G'day Tyler,thanks for the ep.Very interesting! will have to check NT reg's.Thanks mate.👍😎
Great video as always Tyler. I have learnt so much from this, thank you so much.
Brilliant video Tyler, thanks for sharing. I’ll never take my FJ Cruiser to this level but this was extremely interesting and informative, great work as ever! 🙌👍
Thanks mate!
Wow, that is crazy you guys have to do all that. I threw a 2 inch suspension lift on my surf along with a 2 inch body lift. I stuck on 33" tyres as I couldn't squeeze 35"'s in. I don't have to do anything at all as that is all legal in Scotland. I could put 38" on my cruiser and as long as they don't go more than an inch and a half past the arch then it's all good, just slap on some arch extensions if its too much. I can't believe it's so restrictive with you guys, what a pain in the arse having to do all that. Truck looks good though bro 👍🏴
Bloody hell mate, you deserve a few beers after that one haha.
Awesome awesome video mate. Soo good to have this info explained and explained well.
Glad you enjoyed it mate!
Great video mate, very informative.
Glad you enjoyed it
Bloopers are crack up😂 keep up the good work mate🤙🏾
Great Video mate. Love how you discuss everything. By doing that I found out I can't put 33' tryes on my car. Its a PX Ranger with a 2inch Lift. I was thinking of putting 33' on. You said only go 32' to make it Legal.
Cheers Mate
Thanks Tyler, good to see this info as I plan to drive through NSW soon. As I understand it, in Vic its 50mm overall with a tolerance of +/- 25mm. That means the 4x4 can measure up to 75mm from manufacture ride height without enforcing an engineer certificate. (I'm 50mm suspension and 32.7 tyres)
Informing your insurance company is the big one down here, they can (and will) knock back your claim if you haven't informed them of your mods. My mods cost an extra $170 on my insurance, but at least I know I'm insured!
well done TT i’m in the same predicament ATM love the vids keep up the good honest work…
Hi Tyler, A well presented video with interesting information. Nice job!
This has been a great video mate. Clears up alot of debate and tbh all those tests are things any vehicle should be able to do. Nothing over the top and end of the date you have a good handling, highly modified rig to be proud of.
I did hear years ago you can’t change any of the specs on the mod plate, for example can’t run 33s if it says 35s as was all tested in a set circumstances. Be interested to know
My Mitsubishi Triton High Rider(L200 or Strada) original wheels were LT205R16. Now I've got 265/75r16LT all terrains. They fit without doing anything to the suspension. The high rider version sits high though
Did you have any issues with it passing with no front mud flaps?
Great video mate I love all the info 👍🏻
Thanks mate, na front mud flaps were never mentioned
Nope no minimum for them only the rear. The rear can also be at the rear of the car also. Is a angle from tyre to rear. The further back the short it need to be
Tyler this is a great video and is very helpful to all 4x4 owners. I'm kicking off a build similar to yours so this info will be very helpful. Cheers!
This is a very helpful video, I was thinking of going to 33's for my Hilux and few other mods that will require engineering but I think I'll just stick to legal mods because I can't be bothered with the process
is it ifs..if so, junk it, buy something with 2 diffs. ifs 4x4rs should be banned..hilux roll on swerve test..std..theres a vid on it.. its the moose test. in europe. i have an f250 highboy, here in aus. its 26'' to the sill..std factory..with 35,s..4w disc, 5sp, lockers.. gooo toyota,,no fkn way..
@@harrywalker968 ua-cam.com/video/y2QSogJj3ec/v-deo.html
It no longer does that I've attached the video where they've changed it to perform better and I have a 2021 so it's not an issue, but thanks for your concern. Enjoy fueling that pig up 😉
Awesome video it’s things like this is what people need to know and what they will be in for and costs cheers Tyler and thanks
Nice to live in a reasonable estate.. Victoria is a nightmare and you can't engineer larger tyres and lift here.
Man! I love the outtakes 🤣🤣🤣 … keep them in always 👍🏻
Great vid I’m in the process of taking out my cheap hilux 4inch ifs lift,going 2inch suspension 1 inch body lift as I’ve had issues with caster/camber an knocking out the alignment all together .Im sure there’s lift kits that can fix this.but it’s money better spent getting out on weekends than going through the engineering process.
Good video Tyler, here's my experience, I had a GVM upgrade done on an FJ Cruiser, the engineering cert stipulates the suspension fitted and that's the only suspension that can be fitted no changing springs, shocks etc, it rode awful and I ended up selling it, be careful with GVM upgrades a bigger truck might be a better option.
So many 100 & 200 series Landcruisers towing large caravans could be sidelined by the Dept Against Transport because their payloads are quite low. 180-200kg ball weight, 4-5 passengers, loaded with gear inside & on the roof, large fridge, fuel tanks near full, steel bull bar, dual batteries... They’re over. I don’t know why more of them aren’t made examples of as they’re easy targets. Lighter 4wds generally have higher payloads than the heavier ones. A great example is a 90 series Prado has a payload of up to 997kg depending on the variant. Landcruisers are around the 560-600kg mark which is next to nothing on the greater scheme of things for such a large vehicle.
@@cliffbooth7075
A lot of people do not consider the GCM.
@@dangray5932
Thanks, and to answer the question you asked yourself, yes Cliff Booth is my real name. My parents had a sense of humour. I was thrilled when Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time In Hollywood movie came out. Of all the names in the world characters could use, Brad Pitt’s character shared my name. Made me happy.
I was expecting $10,000 plus.
I am actually building my 80 Series in a very similar specification as your Patrol. So no, not boring, in fact this video was very interesting to me. I would have been happy to see a more detailed & longer video, although I guess you pretty much covered the main points
Boom Boom finally you are ligit. Keep wheeling. Love your videos
Great video, very informative. It’s frustrating how costly it all is when you do suspension then engineering just to be able to 4wd and camp more in those harder to get to spots and a better vehicle for off road capabilities.
I better have a look at mine then I bought it gu Ute on 33s with 4 inch lift just passed new rego check has bigger breaks etc fitted to it may not be legal without a certificate
going to be looking into 4" with 35's myself and upgrading GVM for the 3.5tonne upgrade on my 04 GU Ute as well.
In QLD pretty sure 33's on 2" just scrapes the legality.
very informative documentary, awsome job Tyler, love it
Thanks so much!
So glad I live in the States, my Hilux is on 38s with dual cases.
Maaate...38s??...coppers here would have a field day and the soft cocks would be crying out to ban your "dangerous kiling machine 4x4".
That's the sentiment these tools have over here.
Great video mate! 👊🏼🍻
Good stuff Tyler. Pretty simple really, stay legal with your mods. We all know the deal but put it in the too hard basket sometimes - not cool. The roads will be safer again thanks to your info. Wheel on hairy man🤘🤘
What a great video with lots of great information
Great job👍 what about the beadlocks and mud flaps.
I love your channels on the 4wbs👍👌👏
And where I live they pretty much require only mud flaps if you lift the vehicle and even thats not really enforced much. I put a 3rd brake light back on my jeep and am fabricating some flaps anyway.
What about the Gps camera in middle winscreen...😅
i saw you in bomaderry! i was in my 4.8 actually you were at garbutts i was gonna stop in but i was working
Legend mate
Keep up the great work
Cheers Awesome job mate best vid I’ve seen by far on this👍wish someone would make one for going through this process in QLD
All my years of Compliance testing and Homologation have I ever seen a test conducted in a "NON Controlled" environment. The brake test conducted was done on a public road, the coefficient of drag is not know so can only be used as an indicator. The Slalom test was through a single set of cones, tests are conducted with 12 cones at 18m intervals. One thing I do agree with is Australia should have a single vehicle compliance rule, not state for state.
The engineering cost for everything involved with the certificate, paperwork, inspections and the testing side of things. I find it to be quite fair. It’s expensive yes, but not unreasonable. Not anymore expensive than basic suspension.
I could add so many comments to this video mate. But I’ll just sum it all up and say well done. Super informative and great viewing. Thankyou.
Thanks mate!
Spot on well worth the watch 👌
Thanks Tyler - Very informative - confirmed a lot of uncertainty for me👌😊🇦🇺
Engineering gone up a bit I had my old r31 skyline Engineered cost $1100. Started its life as a NA auto rb30. It ended up with rb25det engine, rb25 box, spooled diff, big turbo, coilover suspension, big exhaust and more
In Sydney?
@@stevecrowe176 nah wagga wagga nsw
Top video mate. Explains a lot info 😎
All that work just so Demi could take the patrol shopping! LOL.
Haha, the only thing she goes shopping for these days is which new car she wants next 😂
Great video mate ,very interesting
Gday Tyler, another great info video, are your rims bead locked, and if so did ol’ mate saying anything about them? Cheers and keep up the good work 🤝🤙
Nice advice and timely warning re application in other States. Like you say you can still get defected irrespective of engineering. With Vic engineering a Tassie cop told my son ...well go drive it in Vic cause it's not legal here. Ah Aus, such a weird mix of bureaucratic stupidity!