Oh yeah defo, so much more complex and made the option for making deals with the enemy and smuggling etc god damn was the openness of 3.0 just what archeage needed T_T Tho this system in its refined state isnt half bad either..
@LaserFeesh Yeah but now instead of people taking packs from anywhere along to coast to specific points elsewhere. There are specific cargo launch points. Wouldn't that make patrolling and finding people easier? Wouldn't it make it so easier for pirates?
@LaserFeesh Dang. Hopefully that's more of a reflection of the other model and dead servers...or dead-ish. I don't actually know if they're dead... I just know they were dead when I left years ago b4 mergers.
I really like the Freshness system. I feel that MMOs like this need players like me who are relatively casual, who barely know what to do with their land, can make maybe a pack a day, and just run it. The freshness system rewards small players and groups which I think is excellent. That's the biggest turn off for me in this game is how HARDCORE everyone makes it. The "If you don't have 15 alts you aren't even playing this game" type mentality really hurts the idea that I can just be a person living in this MMO world and having fun, exploring, trying to earn some cash and playing. It's become too meta, and I really like that they're trying to prevent that mentality and play style with mechanics like freshness.
I think a lot of the changes will make guild play even more exciting. Super fast escort rushes with a galleon or merchant ship with smaller ships going in groups etc
Ty much for your video, I played back alpha and for over a year after but left cuz the heavy p2w. Its sad that trading changed, i used to runs every day or rob ppl.
Does distance not matter any more on packs you hand in? I remember running packs from halcy to gweo was better gold return than handing packs into gweo that were made in gweo? Just wondering if prime real estate will be in areas that the npc's are situated?
Is there no chart for how much pack in expl inland gives on 130% from each zone to the respective trade ins? used to be with old system was hoping someone made one with new 1 . what i don't like about this system is you can't do long zone packs from hasla to harany main city cuz the route will take over 1hr so the pack value drops 2 much for it to be worth :/
Θεωρητικα αμεσα απο την αρχη και ολα τα ταξιδια....Βεβαια αν σκεφτεσαι θαλασσια ταξιδια,πρακτικα απο 30+....δεν υπαρχει καποιο οριο αλλα θα πεσεις πανω σε mobs που θα σε καθαρισουν αν εισαι πολυ μικρο level.Μπορεις να κανεις οσα πακετα θες αναλογα με το Labour σου
Give us the old trade system and i'll be back. I'm tired of this zoomer trade system that doesn't encourage pirating. Pirating encouraged people grouping up and protecting packs. Back when Archeage came out, people would raid up and protect a merch ship against purplers and reds. That caused a lot of guild drama which was the life blood of this game. Pornstars vs Gentlemen's Club on Ezi. OGs know what I'm talking about.
i have a question, its about cargo if im hirani do i have to go from the enemy side west side to our continent with the cargo or do i start on our side and go to theirs ? kinda confusing
My fondest memories about this game, which I played at launch, are wasting evenings planning trade routes and taking them on. Now research for Unchained (for which I've planned to returned) keeps showing me it's pretty ass. It also seems pretty damn universally agreed that everyone prefers the original so... Why the HELL won't they flip it back? What is the BENEFIT they are clinging onto here?? I don't wanna be that dumb out of place guy but, I am not suuuuuper into PvP. I partake, but bottom line I suck. So with the trade system guttered (and apparently dungeons being garbo)... Even with all Unchained seems to offer... I am on the fence. Whereas just two days ago I was stoked to come back.
Well, I've been coming back to every new "fresh" server or to any new major expansions and activate a month of patron, but nothing stuck with me I couldn't get the same feel like initially when I joined AA back when it released. As with all initial hope when Trion was involved, I really hope this will turn out as I do hope it will, on the 8th I'll set my Pre-order and hope for the best, but considering the past "experiences" if this fails this is the last cent that this game gets from me.
Dude I'm a new player and I just don't get it, I payed 26g for a cargo and got 25,5g worth of essense, so basically I played to deliver the cargo across the sea. Why ? Oh and I did it in a war period while and under 15minutes
Hay. Thanks for this but now that it’s life can you make a vid explaining how to do cargo runs and not get fucked over? I got my first clipper and tried to do a couple runs and each time I got chased by someone on shore waiting in hiding that glides after you. One landed on my boat and killed me and took the pack. Another followed in their boat harpooned and then killed and took pack. I’m low level. I don’t have the Archpass money or gear and have no experience in pvp in this game yet. So I’m an easy target. Not complaining about that. I’ll get gooder. I just read that people knock you off the protected boat as well and do the same. Could you just point out some ways that work? That are commonly used? I know people are doing these all day. They can’t all be getting ganked. I used all the money I had in trying. So I don’t want to just let it be a money dump in to the hands of stronger richer players.
I like the freshness. It was a bit offputting going around on adventures and seeing land fills of packs lying around everywhere. Hopefully Gamigo hires mods to tear down people's empty houses and farms as well. Decorate your house and plant in your farm or lose them. The Lawn and Garden Society will seize the possessions of careless tenants. Especially with White Arden on Nui server; so many gold farmers in that area now.
Yeah I wasn't trying to be super competitive, I mostly liked being a merchant since that didn't require p2w to have fun at it. But when that was gone there was nothing really to have fun with, unchained is awesome though I've been playing it for a few days and it's really fun and easy to be competitive
This sytstem feels like a downgrade from the old one from launch when there was a gilda trader and a gold trader =( All I did back in the day was gilda trader runs. I'm still doing it, but it just feels not as good.
man i haven't played Archeage in like 3 years? I fucking miss it so much, back then I got banned for 2 weeks for no reason and lost faith in the company so never looked back but this is looking good !
I'm sadly not touching this game unless they change the trade system back. Why won't they do it? Everyone I know wants it, polls wants it. So why? Also while they are at it, get the old fishing system back, so much fun on the seas back then...
so all this mean no matter the place u land rush there is no more ''land trade packs'' like was in 2014 glad i found your video my hype gone and even fishing not worth anymore everyone will be only grind killing mobs for purse and gold
Jesus christ, the gear and packs changes since are really going to weird out old players.. I think they're making a mistake releasing if they release it like this which they likely will.
The new trade system sucks beyond imagination & it's the only thing that keep me from playing, if they don't change it to how it was there is no fucking way to play, I was a hardcore trader back in the days with my merchant ship moving 21 packs at a time but I also liked to steal packs from others, this new system ruin the game for me & make it unfun & I find no reason to pay in order to play a game that is not fun for me.
The current trade system also encourages alts too much. It was so common to see 1 player controlling like 10 people for a trade run. They need to stop that.
Theres a ton of people coming back to the game who havent played since earlier patches, just because it isn't useful to you doesn't mean it isn't for others :) thanks for watching!
1:05 Inland Packs
1:40 Yny & Cinder Wartime Packs
2:45 Freshness(light overview)
4:25 Cargo
5:40 Haranya -> Nuia & Nuia -> Haranya Cargo
6:55 Freedich Cargo
8:00 Diamond Shore Cargo
besides trade run is larceny still a thing on this patch?
@@bencortes6625 It can be once high enough.
3.0 was the best Tradesystem Ever !
Oh yeah defo, so much more complex and made the option for making deals with the enemy and smuggling etc god damn was the openness of 3.0 just what archeage needed T_T
Tho this system in its refined state isnt half bad either..
@LaserFeesh Yeah but now instead of people taking packs from anywhere along to coast to specific points elsewhere. There are specific cargo launch points. Wouldn't that make patrolling and finding people easier? Wouldn't it make it so easier for pirates?
@LaserFeesh You can only carry one at a time that way though... and that boat doesn't goto freedich I thought...
@LaserFeesh Dang. Hopefully that's more of a reflection of the other model and dead servers...or dead-ish. I don't actually know if they're dead... I just know they were dead when I left years ago b4 mergers.
@LaserFeesh that's too bad.
Kind of dumb they're allowing 3 accounts for unchained too. If that's not P2W I don't know what is.
I really like the Freshness system. I feel that MMOs like this need players like me who are relatively casual, who barely know what to do with their land, can make maybe a pack a day, and just run it. The freshness system rewards small players and groups which I think is excellent. That's the biggest turn off for me in this game is how HARDCORE everyone makes it.
The "If you don't have 15 alts you aren't even playing this game" type mentality really hurts the idea that I can just be a person living in this MMO world and having fun, exploring, trying to earn some cash and playing. It's become too meta, and I really like that they're trying to prevent that mentality and play style with mechanics like freshness.
I think a lot of the changes will make guild play even more exciting. Super fast escort rushes with a galleon or merchant ship with smaller ships going in groups etc
Im mixed. I think they could have included a bonus if you turn it in quickly, but I like the idea of doing huge shipments
It doesn't reward you, it just punishes others.
Former player contemplating returning. This was exactly what I needed. Thank you
Thanks for another informative upload!
2.5 bloodsong archeage was the best!
thanks for the cargo explain
Thanks for the information. Coming back for Unchained and wanted to know what was happening with cargo
I am coming back as well :)
if there's a video w/ a breakdown of meta classes or consistant money making would appreciate a link. ( new player going to play on unchained )
nice i was curious about this as i only did this stuff when the game launched
One thing- if you’re West faction, can you buy a cargo pack at a East zone like Yynstere then deliver it to your faction’s Two Crowns?
Yes!
@@ZZav so it is like you can take a cargo from two crowns to east and you can take from east to west. How much time is needed for that tho?
Ty much for your video, I played back alpha and for over a year after but left cuz the heavy p2w. Its sad that trading changed, i used to runs every day or rob ppl.
Can you still trade packs for gildas?
So if I understood correctly the only way to get onyx essence is to go for Diamond Shore? 🤔 Damn!
Is there a daily limit for how many cargos you can do in a day? Is it only one a day with the family quest?
Does distance not matter any more on packs you hand in? I remember running packs from halcy to gweo was better gold return than handing packs into gweo that were made in gweo? Just wondering if prime real estate will be in areas that the npc's are situated?
Sorry all. Had to re-upload D:
Wooooo no scuffed audio, great stream zz
aha yeah the whole first minute got deleted so i just re-uploaded without that weak audio start bit :3 thanks ^^
@@ZZav Still I would try to make audio a bit louder :) Always have to turn volume up watching you :)
So will hellswamp/halcy still be prime housing locations?
@ZZavage is larceny still a thing on this patch or trade runs are more profitable than em?
How did you pull up that info at 1:50, is that in game, could you explain how to get that sheet up?
Yes. You can see it at the cargo outlets.
Will no more exist land trade packs? With car and etc?
thanks for this zzavage guide !
Is there no chart for how much pack in expl inland gives on 130% from each zone to the respective trade ins? used to be with old system was hoping someone made one with new 1 . what i don't like about this system is you can't do long zone packs from hasla to harany main city cuz the route will take over 1hr so the pack value drops 2 much for it to be worth :/
Is it not possible to turn in other continent's cargo to your continent for charcoal/ onyx anymore?
Did Sunken Ships get removed?
Thanks for the guide it was helpful
hello and thanks for your videos , quick question: from what level you start making this runs ? can u do multiple per day or is it once per 24 hours ?
Θεωρητικα αμεσα απο την αρχη και ολα τα ταξιδια....Βεβαια αν σκεφτεσαι θαλασσια ταξιδια,πρακτικα απο 30+....δεν υπαρχει καποιο οριο αλλα θα πεσεις πανω σε mobs που θα σε καθαρισουν αν εισαι πολυ μικρο level.Μπορεις να κανεις οσα πακετα θες αναλογα με το Labour σου
I just need to know if I can make gilda from trade packs. I need gilda. We all need gilda. You said nothing about it.
Gilda hasnt been a trade pack reward since 3.5. So no you cannot.
Wait a fucking second, Zzavage from Crys guild back in 3.0????? Dude if it's you holy shit how you been!!!???
Give us the old trade system and i'll be back. I'm tired of this zoomer trade system that doesn't encourage pirating. Pirating encouraged people grouping up and protecting packs. Back when Archeage came out, people would raid up and protect a merch ship against purplers and reds. That caused a lot of guild drama which was the life blood of this game.
Pornstars vs Gentlemen's Club on Ezi. OGs know what I'm talking about.
i have a question, its about cargo if im hirani do i have to go from the enemy side west side to our continent with the cargo or do i start on our side and go to theirs ? kinda confusing
Either one! Cargo outlets are accessible to both factions!
how many onyx do you get for a cargo to Diamond Shores?
perfect! thank you so much!
My fondest memories about this game, which I played at launch, are wasting evenings planning trade routes and taking them on. Now research for Unchained (for which I've planned to returned) keeps showing me it's pretty ass. It also seems pretty damn universally agreed that everyone prefers the original so... Why the HELL won't they flip it back? What is the BENEFIT they are clinging onto here??
I don't wanna be that dumb out of place guy but, I am not suuuuuper into PvP. I partake, but bottom line I suck. So with the trade system guttered (and apparently dungeons being garbo)... Even with all Unchained seems to offer... I am on the fence. Whereas just two days ago I was stoked to come back.
they basically just made safe runs better payout but with less reliability to mass run, and danger runs overall less OP kind of.
Someone start a petition for old system. Haven't heard a single person preferring the current system over the old one.
so hyped for this
My subreddit request has been granted! YAASSSS
thank you for this vid!!!
Well, I've been coming back to every new "fresh" server or to any new major expansions and activate a month of patron, but nothing stuck with me I couldn't get the same feel like initially when I joined AA back when it released. As with all initial hope when Trion was involved, I really hope this will turn out as I do hope it will, on the 8th I'll set my Pre-order and hope for the best, but considering the past "experiences" if this fails this is the last cent that this game gets from me.
Dude I'm a new player and I just don't get it, I payed 26g for a cargo and got 25,5g worth of essense, so basically I played to deliver the cargo across the sea. Why ? Oh and I did it in a war period while and under 15minutes
Wait so what happend to guilda stars?
Cant turn packs in for them anymore.
@@ZZav How do you farm gilda consistently if trade packs don't trade for gilda?
@@Somedoge123 ua-cam.com/video/aLXgFAHVju4/v-deo.html
Awesome vid, thank you. Though im not sure if its just me, but your vid sound is so low. Had to crank my speakers to hear you.
Hay. Thanks for this but now that it’s life can you make a vid explaining how to do cargo runs and not get fucked over? I got my first clipper and tried to do a couple runs and each time I got chased by someone on shore waiting in hiding that glides after you. One landed on my boat and killed me and took the pack. Another followed in their boat harpooned and then killed and took pack. I’m low level. I don’t have the Archpass money or gear and have no experience in pvp in this game yet. So I’m an easy target. Not complaining about that. I’ll get gooder.
I just read that people knock you off the protected boat as well and do the same. Could you just point out some ways that work? That are commonly used? I know people are doing these all day. They can’t all be getting ganked. I used all the money I had in trying. So I don’t want to just let it be a money dump in to the hands of stronger richer players.
I'm eager for Friedrich island wars again.
Thx 4 the information
subbed, keep the tips going please! Just a tip, if you can, rise a bit the volume of your microphone! Thanks!
thx men, i stop playin a long time ago becouse of trion.
Nice job.
Um I must have miss read the dev. I thought this is separate from the f2w servers and was like the Korean original.
I meant p2w
ty man
no gilda trader sucks.. i hate doing dailies.. let me have a gilda trader back now!
Thanks I needed this as a returning Beta player, hoping that AAU will deliver cuz I loved the game but I wasn't gonna deal with f2p p2w bs
I like the freshness. It was a bit offputting going around on adventures and seeing land fills of packs lying around everywhere. Hopefully Gamigo hires mods to tear down people's empty houses and farms as well. Decorate your house and plant in your farm or lose them. The Lawn and Garden Society will seize the possessions of careless tenants. Especially with White Arden on Nui server; so many gold farmers in that area now.
Wish I knew this before I bought the game this is kind of bullshit. The fuck would they change the old system for?
Daum I must have quit around 3.5 😂 I remember they introduced that cargo system and I was like "this plus the p2w, nah I'm done "
Yeah I wasn't trying to be super competitive, I mostly liked being a merchant since that didn't require p2w to have fun at it. But when that was gone there was nothing really to have fun with, unchained is awesome though I've been playing it for a few days and it's really fun and easy to be competitive
i ll definitely not doing cargo runs or fishing :D
This sytstem feels like a downgrade from the old one from launch when there was a gilda trader and a gold trader =( All I did back in the day was gilda trader runs. I'm still doing it, but it just feels not as good.
man i haven't played Archeage in like 3 years? I fucking miss it so much, back then I got banned for 2 weeks for no reason and lost faith in the company so never looked back but this is looking good !
I'm sadly not touching this game unless they change the trade system back. Why won't they do it? Everyone I know wants it, polls wants it. So why?
Also while they are at it, get the old fishing system back, so much fun on the seas back then...
so all this mean no matter the place u land rush there is no more ''land trade packs'' like was in 2014 glad i found your video my hype gone and even fishing not worth anymore everyone will be only grind killing mobs for purse and gold
Thats what you think :) Purses are worse silver per labor than packs still :)
3.5 system was fucking horrid. The revamp to freshness and the revamp to cargo makes me super hype actually
Ive See you in rainbow six Siege xD
My guildie in Legacy! Lol
Jesus christ, the gear and packs changes since are really going to weird out old players.. I think they're making a mistake releasing if they release it like this which they likely will.
well this made me less hyped...
Put in a few words as posible, the trade system is trash and boring
TBH, the new trade system kinda sucks and stupid.
The new trade system sucks beyond imagination & it's the only thing that keep me from playing, if they don't change it to how it was there is no fucking way to play, I was a hardcore trader back in the days with my merchant ship moving 21 packs at a time but I also liked to steal packs from others, this new system ruin the game for me & make it unfun & I find no reason to pay in order to play a game that is not fun for me.
The current trade system also encourages alts too much. It was so common to see 1 player controlling like 10 people for a trade run. They need to stop that.
This sucks
So in short nothing new for 6.0... waste of 10 minutes
Theres a ton of people coming back to the game who havent played since earlier patches, just because it isn't useful to you doesn't mean it isn't for others :) thanks for watching!