The Crisis in Kashmir | Head-to-Head Debate at The Oxford Union
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"The Crisis In Kashmir: Should Special Status Have Been Revoked?"
In August, Prime Minister Modi’s decision to revoke the special status granted to Jammu and Kashmir under Article 370 of the constitution, and to split the state, which is majority Muslim, into two Union territories sparked international outcry, and caused protests to erupt across the region.
Yet, while some have derided the move as unconstitutional, undemocratic, and irresponsible, many in India have defended the action, arguing that it strengthens the economy and security of the state, and that special status was only ever meant to be temporary. Was this action, then, simply a misunderstood step towards greater national unity and prosperity, or an alarming act of authoritarian over-reach?
SPEAKERS
Proposition:
Baijayant Panda: The current national Vice President of the Bharatiya Janata Party. He previously served as a member of the Lok Sabha.
Opposition:
Sitaram Yechury: Leader of the Communist Party of India (Marxist). He has represented West Bengal in the Rajya Sabha since 2005.
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I just can't stop laughing..Look who has organized this debate..people who have gifted us this problem now call us for a debate..British govt owes an apology to both India & pakistan..
British liberated Hindus from 1000 YEAR slavery of Muslims and shariah.
Yes. Their Royal family must apologise to India and Pakistan.
There's no Pakistan. There's only akhand Bharat
@@hemant1512 akhand Bharat is now divided into 3 Pakistan India and Bangladesh so you can call it now AkLUND Bharat
Brutal Security nope.... Hindus will reclaim lost territory and all those who were converted earlier to unholy faiths will be re-converted. Pakistan is anyway a failed state, Bangladesh cannot sustain it's population density, Afghanistan is already weakened for India's expansion and Nepal and Bhutan are our protectorates anyway. Akhand Bharat is closer than ever to reality
JNU should debate on northern Ireland problem and how England occupies it.
They can...And nothing is wrong in that
Ofc they can and they should. The only thing is, nobody in the world cares. JNU, despite all its academia and wokeness, just isn't Oxford. And frankly speaking, JNU is VERY overrated.
@@brownie9620 It's probably not very good because they think that only people with direct experience can listen to opinions on subjects. Oxford brings in 2 local experts to enlighten their students... in India this is a sin. Why are they even interested!?
Who's stopping them?
@@anuragsood7997 LOL Which Indian politicians stop JNU from debating on Bristish-Irish issue?
Communist is speaking of restoring democracy😂😂🤦♂️
Irony died long back.
You do know that democracy and communism are not mutually exclusive right? I am not even a communist but this type of misinformation really bugged me.
@@holup977 Communists itself believe that there should not be any monarchy nor any government to rule or govern any state.
Democracy believes that a people's representative should speak on behalf of them. Communism in terms of politics only believes that all the people together should control the state.
@@holup977 They believe in "democratic" dictatorship quoting DXP, so it's not wrong. Comrades love to quote Lenin, "Democracy is indispensable to socialism" but leave out that, "Goal of socialism is Communism".
This brain quack psychopath yechuri is talking in debate that too about democracy and socialism
Yes that’s weird.
Next debate topic should be "when Britain is going to return kohinur diamond to india? "
And $45Trillion with interest
Actually returned to Pakistan or in the least divide between the 2 - India and Pakistan who were rampages from Lahore to Delhi and more.
That's the best agenda of the millennium
Pakistan* lol its from Lahore. Big surprise! Indians stealing this too from Pakistan, its not only songs and movies you steal from Pakistan then.
It's origin are from Afghanistan the Mughals were from Afghanistan & the diamond does not belong to India. It will go to Pakistan or Afghanistan
But not to India
One thing is clear here that , India and Pakistan are United in the comments section against the Britishers
We only get United when Goras come😒
You need to understand. Debbie Abraham - a British MP from Labor party- came to Pak and wanted to visit Kashmir to criticize India. she was funded by Pakistan. Pound 30,000 was paid to the parliamentary panel. British created Pak. But Britain did not ask Pak to become fanatic Islamist country, which it is today. Also Britain did not ask to persecute minorities which forced India to offer the least possible humanitarian gesture of CAA. The ruckus created by Pak and Islamists these days is not creation of Britain.
ISI wants to manipulate your mind. While Britain of 1947 created the mess, today the problem is Pakistani society's radicalized minds. Let us focus on today's situation. Until Pak becomes a secular country, I would be vary of Pakistan.
Spectacular
the problem that british made
1. Israel-palestine problem
2. Hongkong-china problem
3. Pakistan-india problem
@syed mohammed yes , now we are responsible totally for whatever is going on.
We means both the people of India & Pakistan.
This is like Hitler presiding over a debate of Anti-Semitism.
@Pojka Oh we have a holocaust denier in our midst? How fortuitous!
I'm sorry but that's sooooooooooooooooooooo funny.
How?
Let's UK be made into 4 independent nations
Ireland
Wales
Scotland
England
Britishers must give independence to Scotland first.
The Scottish people voted no
Northern Ireland also
Xd
scotland? bro,, do u know how poor scotland was? britain took scotland out of the entire poverty just with help of Indian wealth which they were looting at that time.. they were looting all the wealth here and using it in scotland. so ofcourse , scotish people would rather love to stay with britain
@@amansinghrollno-7167 they also voted no
This man adding Patriot at ending of each line and they are only kept kashmir buring more than 70 years
👇
Sir why till indian jammu and kashmir problem.
Sir Democrcey one side till.
When you see two fish fighting in the pond that had been peaceful, you know the British have been there.
Yea.. The Hindus were relatively peaceful in accepting their genocide before we arrived.
And the fees we paid to save us was 45 Trillion dollars. Still didn't got saved from forced religious conversion to Christianity.
@@Bloomazz Muslim ruled over India for 9 hundred years. If genocides of hindues had taken place, during their rule, would India be majority hindu country.
All invasions wrong but at least Muslims didn't loot the wealth of India and sent back to home country like the British did during 2 hundred year rule. Britain was built on looted wealth of India, Iran and Africa.
@@zahidabukhari9973 My country was built on the innovation and commerce of its own people. What wealth did India have worth stealing? How do you even loot wealth in that way?
I'd suggest you look at Pakistan and Bangladesh. They are India, the parts where the Hindus no longer exist. Because of Genocide. If you look at the Mughal Empire, Muslim areas of India are where they are controlled. The longer they controlled it, the more Muslims there are. You say Muslims ruled India for 900 years? Id suggest you buy a history book. It's so barely true I wont even bother telling you why.
@@Bloomazz well I somewhat agree but slave? Let's say you were the master of a country and you wanted to convert then into your religion, would you have needed 1000+ years to do it? In the end I will say the moguls were like parasites, keeping the host alive but slowly changing it to their favorable habits and the Britishers were like viruses doesn't care about the host's life or death while hording all its resources to enrich themselves. Keep you ego aside for a minute and then read a history book that isn't written by a British.
The British created this feud. Now they enjoying the show.
Very true
British created but we never able to solve it ...
Yes they divide our country,British is the main reason for the raise of country named Pakistan
@@talhaqasim9629 they will never let us solve it
And the Rogues will continue to Do So Until Pakistan Abandons Its Hostility and Hatred Against India (Modus Vivendi of Pakistan)And befriends and cultivates India thereby reaping enormous benefits,gains and dividends as derived by Bangla Desh with its cooperation with India.
That's why, CPI(M) is limited in some places and lost his popularity as a political party..
Uhh why tho?
Think Subramanian Swamy here😂
He would have nailed everyone
Swami vs Yechury, Tharoor, Ramesh, Sibal
😎
Actually
Seriously. Then it would be oxford union roast
Yup
Let's debate why Scotland wants a separation from uk .
But they don’t 😂😁 they had a vote 🇬🇧
@@ledge1984 alas but then we know Brits know always to screw up and a non-starter for letting things go as natural
@@ledge1984 How about Northern Ireland ?
Soon Belgium will support freedom for Scotland
That would be great...
What an irony we are discussing Kashmir issues in front of those who were responsible for creating this mess
Deepak Yadav ua-cam.com/video/RByJ2SF-44c/v-deo.html
It is typically why it is been discussed there, let them know hoe good they are in messing up things, the BREXIT in particular
Kavitha Narasimhakartheesan MGS
is brexit affecting you??
Go to contents of debate rather than place
Deepak Yadav
indians been fighting for 70 years
will never stop
back in india they would be abusing in hindi and throwing slippers and shoes at each other
Let's debate as to why Britain has not paid the 1$ that they owe us every year for the 300 years of colonization.
The same way, how much you owe Kashmiris for looting and plundering?
@R K india was the largest economy of the world since 5000 years even before the Britain existed .
So think whole life before making such claims .
British made some infrastructure to only take its wealth from India to back England
@R K it's the same india whose king put your so called rolls Royce car for maintaining garbage purpose and that king was not even considered no where near wealthly kingdom.
You people don't even know how to make border , and their is constantly conflict around the world bcz of your blunder
We need accountability of British loot and plunder
@@ShamsulHaq313 lol when did we loot and plunder Kashmiris lol? Don't you throw rocks and blow up bombs? We have you so much infrastructure with tax money from other citizens in India (not even your own). And your ancestors were plundered and forcefully converted by Muslim invaders. So look in the mirror first lol.
Mr Sita Ram seems to be self proclaiming patriot.
most present day politicians are, don't you think?
In other cases state supplies people with patriot certificates or what?
@@MrLuigithefish State don't provide certificate but people and society recognise them.
And what is wrong in that ...I claim myself as a patriot
He knows he is traitor
This is a big joke. People who created the conflict is now conducting debate🤫
😂😂😂
They didn't create the conflict. J&K wasn't a part of British India. Read some history first.
Yes instead of giving solution
@@tttreksandtalks9194 u also should read history. The king signed the agreement of becoming part of India and Pakistanis attacked like a coward
@@ruchashinde9735 That's called instrument of accession. Now go to UN resolution and check it there. Don't read what govt wants you to read. Try to explore a bit.
It's crazy how the people who created this problem are hosting a debate about it and profiting from it. GG.
How is the Oxford Union responsible for the problems in Kashmir? This is a university (a neutral platform) for people to debate. Don't put the problems between two nations on a university. Hear youself.
"People who created this problem" you're literally blaming University professors who not only weren't born and part of the colonialism, but also they aren't even part of the British Government
@@nathanj3528 You clearly know that he didn't mean the "university" itself. Stop going boikers for a fact that he stated in a rather civil manner. The Brits of those times are the reason why this mess exists today. No one is blaming the current day british people or that university but this shitshow is 101% a result of the British invasion
Problem was created by nehru and shiekh not by britain they solved it ages ago..go read history first
@@nathanj3528 Oxford Union is independent of the university.
Double speak
I'm from Udhampur, Jammu and Kashmir. And Let me tell you, Entire Jammu & Kashmir including Gilgit Baltistans, PoK & Aksai China is an integral part of India and will always be.
Jai Hind Forever 🇮🇳
I am from srinagar Kashmir and I don't consider it part of India
@@syedqurat5637 who cares of Converted blood. Dirty filthy converted scuum
@@syedqurat5637
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Now tell me who's Betich0d ?
@@paxstanisnorthwestindia6723 arey bhai isme religion kha se aagya
It is a different issue from religion okay yaha him islam k baare m baat nh kr rhe tou if you wanna spread hate and invoke other Muslims then go ahead bcz I am not going to get hypered by your disgusting remarks
Bhag machikne
Why do we need to debate our indian internal matters outside of india? Its our elected government taken good decision by removing article 370. Deal with it
Yes we know abrogation of 370 was done to change demography of jammu and Kashmir.
People who created this mess are debating on solving it🤔.
Its like Hitler discussing of how to stop Nazism 😂😂😂😂
Why does Modi Sultan run away from the press and hiding for the last six years? Who gave divine right to Godse patriots to butcher thousands in Gujarat and in the Advani terrorist holocaust to demolish a mosque of the Muslims?
By what logic did the Supreme Court verdict that those who trespassed on the property of Muslims were the legal owners of the property they took over by fraud and violence? Why does the Modi Sultan government not arrest those who celebrate the assignation of Mahatma Gandhi and celebrate Godse Aryan's birthday under the nose of Modi Sultan of Delhi? Is Modi ready for a debate with Dr Shashi Thsroor or Peter Alphonse of the Congress party? When will the cowardly Propaganda Minister of India call his first press conference?
@@pragasamanthony3251
Modi is the PM of India. To engage with the Media or to avoid it is his prerogative, not mandated by the Constitution of India. Btw, you have mistaken his surname as Sultan, Modi itself is his surname and quite fondly remembered by the liberal secular lobby that is outright rejected by the mass of India.
No, Modi was not granted any Divine rights of genocide as is claimed by the British Monarchy. The riots of Gujarat were necessary reactions to the burning of innocent Hindu pilgrims in a running train in Godhra by the historically notorious 'non-violent' cult of Muslims. Why necessary? Just look at the records of riots after the reprisal by the predominantly Hindu population of Gujarat. None. So, peaceful coexistence with the tribes of Arab descent is only possible with the language of the sword, nothing else.
By what logic did the Supreme Court rule in the favor of a Ram Temple in the place where stood once a mosque called Babri Masjid, you ask?
The answer is a single word given by you. It is 'logic' itself. The logic of arriving at a conclusion based on historical records, archaeological findings, legal jurisprudence. It was a matter of setting the records right, of rectification of wrongs committed by despotic Islamic rule that has scarred the socio-religious culture of the Indian subcontinent. They destroyed anything that resembled anti-Quranic. The ruins of Nalanda, the ancient University bear testimony to the destructive force of Islam that trampled across the land of India. Even ancient texts and valuable scriptures were not spared from burning. It is a matter of shame that a nation of more than a billion people whose major faith is Hinduism have to wait for the verdict of a court to worship at a place considered sacred from time immemorial. Just imagine if someday the Christians demolish the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem and arbitrarily construct a Cathedral over it disallowing any Muslim to set foot inside it, will the followers of the religion called Islam proceed to take the case to the International Court of Justice and wait peacefully for a verdict for more than 500 years?
Oh no, all cases of Charlie Hebdo and Salman Rushdie will become so commonplace then. But perhaps, then such violence would not be violence at all but reasonable reactions according to people like you.
So, don't assume to know better than the Indian populace. They know how and when to take appropriate steps to solve their problems. Modi and his landslide victory in 2019 whitewashing all freaks is the only certificate of the pulse of the great nation, India.
The opinions of academics are of no value for the mandate of India. It speaks for itself.
@@pragasamanthony3251
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@SirVonn It is convenient to hide the hidden agenda and save from getting openly exposed. You cover with any other reason but the persons with humanity will understand it.
Hitler's line is been towed by the present one. So don't expose your leader as they are of same breed, using fake(pseudo) nationalism to deny justice and right to life for others.
Let's have a debate at JNU.
Topic: Is UK worse off now after Brexit? Or was it worse before?
Karle debate who’s stopping you? Uske liye par tujhe padh likh ke JNU me ghusna padega bas
@@akshatsrivastava4280
पढ़ा - लिखा मतलब ??
अच्छा भारत तेरे टुकड़े होंगे इंशाअल्लाह इंशाअल्लाह वैसे पढ़ा - लिखा !!
@@akshatsrivastava4280 lol..JNU m or pdhai??
@@ethanallen952 haha india ki top University hai dude.... people who say jnu mai padhai nahi hoti are the people who haven't passed their 9th class
@@greatkaafir9316 lol dude that is not even proven ...jnu is top University of india don't defame it ....this matter went to high court and their was not a single proof about this instence🙃🙃👍
This is how a debate should be organized in our news channels
People who were under house arrest were able to spark the fire of communal riots and violence. So they must be kept under control for smooth execution of new law.
You should have been kept for house arrest for a while then you will realise things by yourself
@@MohammadIqbal-lj6iq yea sure. Their house are bigger than my entire society.
Want Oxford to hold a talk on Freedom of Ireland. See that happen!!
But ireland is free
@@raghavsagar6362 Kashmir is equally free, if not more.
@@awsomeslayer1 How is that? Ireland is an independent country?
@@raghavsagar6362 there are two parts. One is free and one is in UK!!
@Rich 91 they are not, मादरचोद
IRA Irish Republican Army, a terrorist organisation scouting to British. They want Independence from British monarch. They want to be republic.
The host is like :" is that what my Grandfathers have done to these people!?"
Hahaha
Mr Baijayanta panda is from India , from a state called odisha and living in Cuttack in my City. I became overwhelm when I saw him here ❤️❤️❤️🤩🤩🤩🙏🙏🙏
Not a single word about the misuse of Article 370 and also about the Genocide of Innocent Hindus. He alsoforgotten or intentionally skipped to mention about the cross-border terrorism.
Oxford Union should also pick debate on "whether UK should return all the loot they did during British time in India"
Double Standard at its best
Also kohinoor diamond
Completely agreeable..
Actually they did a debate on this search" shashi tharoor's speech on Oxford union on UA-cam i think you will get the video"
Ps:"I'm not justifying or taking their side whatever they did is heinous and is not justifiable at all and its actually funny to see them conducting debate on an issue which was created by them in the first place"
@@shubhramitrabasak8621 yes.... one of the best ever talk I ever heard...
So much hypocrisy 😂
That same UK which helped Pakistan on POK(the base of Kashmir issue) is now lecturing India 😑
A temporary law which could be withdrawn any time.i would say it's taken a lot of time.should hav done earlier
@@jayamukherjee8745 You talking of 370?
Parth Kulkarni and we are watching because it is made by Oxford
Yechury’s response to choice given to princely states is like student in exam leaving a question blank when the only choices were True or False, hence failing the question.
Such intolerant person as Yechuri can proclaim himself patriot,and a democrat proves that there is democracy in India
Let's UK be made into 4 independent nations
Ireland
Wales
Scotland
England
"Sitaram Yechuri is a member of the Politburo of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) and was the party's Parliamentary group leader but never won a single election in his lifetime directly by people."
replyno1 hahaha 😂
CPI M is a Jugadu Party
Still he (Sitaram) managed to own the best parliamentarian award..
and can roundly trounce the opponent (bjp).
😅👌🤣😅👌🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@anujitdatta7633 Owesie won the same who have 6 children.
Obama won Nobel prize.
Vrinda Karat who is wife of Prakash Karat CPI Cheif, Her sister owned NDTV who's anchor won Raman Magsaysay.
And you must be from left librandu land of the India - Waste Bengal 😅
I sincerely appeal to our universities to conduct such type of debates in our country, it shouldn't be a media trial.
All our institutions have proved they are useless.
Thanks to Khan-grace we have the likes of jnu instead of Oxford's and Harvard's
It's tough to change the false history taught by the marxist historians. It's not impossible, but, it'd take time.
I sincerely hope indian universities do not copy the imperialist racist strategy and tactics on asia . I understand they have their interests and agenda to push, but why the freaking fuk should Indians help them and their interests? Like who takes this asshole YeChor seriously in india? All he said is clearly against indian interests and stated positions. So now we know where his loyalties lie.
Which Universities? Jamia, JNU, jadav universities?
Those who see and know Kashmir these days... wouldn't need to watch this debate, i think.
Effects of the action took at the time , are clearly visible 😁
Democracy is. Throwing stones. Throwing Kashmir pandit.
When goons and thieves gives you a lesson on humanity and ethics.
Well said Sitaram is biggest problem n most CANCEROUS Cunning hippocratic man who killed msny people
Lol. You are taking about yourself.
In future, people will identify WORST OF WORST PARTIES as follows:
1. Communist parties n RJD
2. Congress
3. NC and NCP
4. TMC and DMK.
5. All parties who support Communist n CONGRESS.
Above list who are not eligible for opposition party.
Not all parties are bad. THERE ARE GOOD or Decent PARTIES who is eligible for opposition party are BJD, TRS, SAD, LJP, NPP, PDA , PDF, PPA, SDF, TDP, UDP, AAP, JDU, JDS, SP, ETC.
DON'T talk nonsense n condemn some decent parties.
WORST PARTIES ARE RJD, NC , NCP, TMC , DMK, CONGRESS, CPI N CPM .
I like how no one cares that Jammu and Ladakh regions also exist and both those regions were also under the special status umbrella
True
Unfortunately, thats the kind of narrative created in last 75 years. JNK was all about Kashmir.
Hopefully, things will be better now.
What about other states given special status
@@funfacts4462 no other state have their constitution..
They r all under indian constitution!!!
@@funfacts4462 every state has a concept of domicile. The NE states dont give you a domicile if u dont belong to the local ethnicities(A 371). Every state has different rules and difficulty levels when it comes to giving this domicile to residents. What JK had was a parallel constitution to the Indian constitution. Unsure if they even had the Secular Socialist Sovereign etc words in their preamble.
Hey Indians, let's have a debate in the JNU on why Northern Ireland and Scotland must separate from Britain.
Nicely organized debate. Both the speakers were coherent and were able to clearly explain their points while being respectful and without talking over each other. Audience were able to ask questions clearly and were being addressed.
Oxford let talk about Taiwan.hongkong,Ireland,tibet
Why forget scotland
LOL. Don't hold debate just announce it and see what happens.
Lets talk about forced organ harvesting in china..
They dont have the guts to say.
But they raise there voices against India every time.
Its a matter of time India overtakes western countries interms of economy.
Then shut their mouths.
Firefire Pro majority of india is poor
@@fanofyoutubers9792 Majority?
More like 22%.
We are developing at good rate.
Let's debate on British occupied Ireland
Ireland, Scotland already had their referendum and they chose to stay with the UK. Let Kashmiris have a referendum?!
@@pindiwal4717 Those who want to live in Pakistan are free to go live in the Muslim homeland.
No part of India will have a referendum.
On a curious note. India has been an abode for persecuted minorities from all over the world.. parsis, Jews came to take shelter in India and stayed here.
Sikhism, budhdhism, jainism all flourished alongside Hinduism.
But only Islam needs a separate Islamic state.
Why?
@@pindiwal4717
Pakistan has to vacate POK in order for referendum to happen - UN mandate
The Brits don't have no fucking business in Kashmir, time for refferundum is over and India is dealing with its internal matter.if the Brits still think they own anything , it is just the maladies and pain they created splitting up the Subcontinent..Kashmir is India s business ..And We will have referendum on POK if u wish so ..:)
@@pindiwal4717 British should also have done referendum in India when they occupied. Did they?
Sai Deepak has to be there to counter this self proclaimed 6 time patriot.
What an Irony it is 😂 A Communist speaking of Democracy 😂😂
Lol you ignorant 😂🤣 communism is more democratic than so called liberalism.
We Indian Don't Need to Look Outside For Enemy.. We Need to Look Inside..
S... opposition 😂
Sita
Ya r8 nw it is modi
You talking about gobiji?
@@funnyhomemadefilms4145 nope, we're talking about separatist Islamist
This debate was held in UK because our Indian channels will never let anyone talk for so long without interruption.
ku shall shah u indian are against kashmiris
@@marinelal5924 STFU!
Kushan Shah. So true.
india is godi media same on u bulls hit Muslim haters
Hahahaha...or their audio will be muted
BJP sorely needs someone who can be articulate, logical and speak with confidence on the international forum. Oxford Union is leftist and is biased against India ; however, that should not be the excuse. If India wants to put its weight and challenge global liberal order they ought to take such debates seriously. The visibility of such debates on a global scale is quite high. Modi govt doesn't understand this.
Actually Pakistan and India both have been used by western and Europe for their own interests..this is the time for both countries to resolve this problem on their own without western interfere
Good to see two Indian politicians of different ideology debating in such a decent manner. This is a rare sight on Indian news channels.
Parth Mishra actually impossible in indian news channels
@@musicisimportant5699 Agreed Sir/Ma'am
😂😂🤭🤭
Stop watching indian mainstream news channels...far better channels on you tube
Man me khub gaali de rha hoga dono😂😂😂😂ek dusre ko
Apna media itna bik gaya hai that we have to enjoy a good debate in oxford .
Its not that bleak yet, I remember watching Jay Panda (BJP) and Shashi Tharoor (Congress) debate on NDTV regarding Article 370 in August. It was very educating and entertaining.
Debate was very balanced . One point which J made regarding better coordination of security agencies for defence of borders .
I expect in next few months dialogue will start with leaders of j&k.
Hahaha, I wish this wasn't so true.
Agree,Rubbish Kumar is a blot on journalism.
Sahi kaha yar, NDTV ne to Pakistan se apni gand hi marvali.... Hadd hai....
How interesting that the crisis in Kashmir is discussed without even a single Kashmiri on the panel.
You’re not a Kashmiri, you’re illegal
@@viveklisation you racist bigot
@@viveklisation And you’re illegitimate.
It is amazing that we can have civil debate between opposing sides like this. Democracy has the great privilege of hypocrisy, authoritarian states can't win in the long run, democratic states will get ahead one day.
We British are the most conspirator in the world. Lets debate!
Go Ahead ua-cam.com/video/q6a0yvRV4pQ/v-deo.html
You know why because you britishers first create conspiracy in your colonial period in countries like pakistan and india ... So no more wonder.... You will be involved.....
Yagya dutt dwivedi somit
go ahead is obviously indian
and the speakers in video are both indian
they chose to speak because in india they would be abusing each other in hindi and throwing slippers at each other
No one gives a fcuk about you anymore , Harry also left for Canada
Akhand Bharat
ua-cam.com/video/2JH1TBjArfQ/v-deo.html
Oxford Union should also debate on unconstitutional takeover of Falkland Islands.
370 article is having 70 years age and to dissmiss the same some pains should be bear my dear seetharam.
Why CPM always oppose all the national interest of India🇮🇳
Next debate when is Britain going to return looted artifacts of India?
If they are returned to India they may get stolen at least they are displayed in London museums for all to see.
As soon as you sort your river out,😂
Putin already returned to Modi ji Bharat's stolen swords. Britishers will lose wealth if they return all stolen jewels etc.
Then next debate will be how to distribute between three countries 🤣🤣
Sharmi you don't even know what was stolen
Timing of applause is showing mind set of people sitting there.. They still playing with us but I we are now much grown up.
Sorry, humans cannot applaude RSS-BJP cowdungs!
@@bangguyraj ☺ your language shows frustration.. By the way this is compliment for me
@M G yes bro
Afghanistan burning example of their beliefs
👏I have noticed it too..
Was discussion on Scotland and Wales after this or it happened before??
How impressive is it to have a debate on sensitive political decisions for people of Kashmir without actually having them (or any of their representatives) in the debate. Brave Oxford Union.
Two non Kashmiris discussing the Kashmir issue is like two men discussing women's rights.
So why you want to world should check what is happening in Kashmir??
@@pubgshorts219 because it's been a disputed territory for decades now, and in order to debate on the issue, you need an actual Kashmiri there. Only he will be able to tell the proper ground reality.
Actually if it was upto me, I would have a 3 people discussion with 3 Kashmiris: a pro Indian , a pro Pakistani and a pro independent. And let them discuss it. Since they are native to their land.
@@mohamedsuhailirfankhazi6628 discussion for any thing is good but the King of Kashmir had already signed on paper to be a part of India.
Yes agreed but who to call? Kashmiri Pandits are butcherd and thrown out of Kashmir and Political Muslims wants Kashmir to be served on thier dinner plates. So i am not sure who will be apt for the debate?
Doesn't matter pro Pakistan is never the solution
First they divided a country now discussing their conflict. Hypocrisy at its best
Not the same group of people. That's like saying because your grandfather committed murder, you are the same as him since you are biologically his lineage
@@gowrirao7626 ur correct but they have no right to interfere in our problems after looting
Though have just listened, it is very interesting. As per the then Simon Commission, for us it was either to be part of India or become a British dominion. For Hyderabad, the Indian Army was engaged to make the Nizam surrender to India. Goa a Portugese colony then, was forced to become part of India through coercion and military intervention.
Yes democracy is not only to cast one's vote once in 5 years. It is much more than that and to exercise one's right to dissent.
Seetharam Yechuri has got a lot of support out there. He must really think about relocating as his party is anyway experiencing it's downfall in India.
Debate conducted in UK .....which created all this mess.....let's talk about Tibet...show guts Oxford
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Oxford closed 😂😂😂
1. Why CPM n Congress gives importance to China n Pakistan than Indians.
2. Why CPM n Congress wont encourages Sanskrit languages, Yoga, Ayurveda, VedicScience, Vedicfood VedicMaths, VedicAstronomy, VedicAstrology, VedicVastu. N Indian most valuable values . All these values instead of encouraging best Knowledge n Wisdom n Gyan, they are crushing it. Why so bad education is it ?
3. Why CPM n Congress never ever appreciates more than 1 thousand years older history in our Education Curriculum. Why they want more lessons from Mogul rule not by other Rulers. There are thousands of kings who have excellent jobs before 10th century. Why you don't want this history.?
4. Why CPM n Congress is manifested or supporting Naxalites n urban naxalists. Why they wont demolishing them instead encourages n improvements of these many different types of Naxalism.
5. Why CPM n Congress is not fighting against Militants n terrorists as much as Indian Citizens expect.
6. Why CPM n Congress dont demolishing worst of worst culture of JNU STUDENTs, n other university. BREAKING INDIA CULTURE. Is this a Education System or Educational values.?
7. Why Entire Education System is one Dimensional Educational System by CPM N Congress. Why not multiply viewpoints n dimensional. This is done NCERT n JNU n Other Group.
8. Why Congress n Communists wanted VIP culture for themselves like Redlight on Cars.
9. Why Communists n Congress encourages Mark Muller n Lalin education system in our nation, is this feasible in our indian culture n nature n Indian democracy?
10. When India has best Gurukul Educational System since ages Why we need Marks Muller, Lalin , Stalin or any other person values from other nation. Why other nations values ? Our Gurukul System has proved since millions of years. Gurukul Needs to be refined n upgraded for recent years. Instead of this, you are trying to crush this best Educational Systems. Why so?
Where was the that indian constitution book of Sitaram yechuri when hundreds of hindu (pandits) were brutally killed and forced to leave in his own country.
Communists are worst than terrorists.
@kshitij shekhar Kerala is nothing but a land of Jihadis. Only knowing how to sign doesn't means you're educated.
@kshitij shekhar many mallu communist are graduating from ISIS jihad University .
@kshitij shekhar RSS what's app University are producing JEE and 10 ,12 topper's in India .
@@akg2815 Indeed
What an irony.. the country which is the root cause of the ind-pak separation is now conducting debate.
One can't blame oxford union for organising this debate, It is about they as a country correcting their past mistakes.
debate on Kashmir without Kashmiris and disputing parties 👏🏾
There are Kashmiri pandits who were asked to leave kashmir in 1990 by the redical Islamic terrorists
@@sidatlanta so what muslims were ethnically cleansed from jammu much before
chesster majority of Kashmiris are muslim. Who’s state was given to India without there Consent
yess a debate between Kashmir pandits n Kashmir Muslims needs to be taken
Its like international media debating on india without nationalists coz they think our leftist are the only source of getting an update about India
Mr. Panda is a great intellect, but I think I would have gone for Mr. Subramaniam swami , he is a legend .
Swamy sir would have roasted both the communist idiot as well as the British people but you know
They all are pure cowdung to any sane people!
Yechuri a legend. And, You are an intellectual.
Best would have been J sai Deepak. Would have eaten the communist
@@anandaprasadaraoappasani1923 yechuri is irrelevant.
Whenever people talk about opposition unity, Yechuri isn't even mentioned, everyone talks about INC, SP, RJD, TMC, AAP, DMK, and leaders like KCR.
No one talks about Yechuri.
At the time when 370 article imposed, nehru didn't passed the bill in upperhouse. Why seetharam is it presently demanding the same?
They're the core reason behind this issue and now they're holding a debate on it
This is rarely, i am seeing pakistanis and indians agreeing on anything ever related to kashmir. I.e. the role of britishers in creating this crisis.
The crisis in Kashmir discussed without any Kashmiri on the dias. Slow claps!
Coz you indians will never let them speak
@@capricornistmian9559 This debate is happening in U.K, we indians don't really have any jurisdiction there.
Let Kashmiris out of their prisoned homes and be heard
Even Indian Parliment before Revoking article 370
Same Happen with tripple Talaq 303 bjp Hindu Mp passed bill
Especially Kashmiri Pandit
Lemme discuss about how Europe is sitting on a land filled with debris of natives.
Take up this topic for debate-- "How to Dismantle the British Colonial and Racist Mindset"
The irony of this debate is the fact that it's happening in England, the country which mostly had to do with the Kashmir crisis between the two countries. Kudos.
Thanks for pointing this out. I was looking for this comment.
Britain has nothing to do with Kashmir crisis. It has everything to do with Islam.
@@desiputtar89 Please qualify this comment. Also, please tell me, how was Maharaja Hari Singh allowed to accede Kashmir to India even though according to Rules of Accession for Princely States, the Raja had to take into account the wishes of the people of the state, in this case Kashmir?
@@desiputtar89 Also, I must point out amusingly, that you Indians never tire of pointing out the "secular" nature of India and in the next breath, you either degrade Islam or promote some hateful sentiment against Muslims....Lolx. And at the same time, you guys also say that the "Two-nation theory" has failed...Lolx....Really? :)))
@@lahoreaskari2651 ..Lolx?
Debate organized by people who are actually responsible for this mess..
Had they been such civilized and understanding at that time, such debate won't happen and exist.
neerav galathia hindu muslim riots happening before your grandparents
grandparents were born
@@musicisimportant5699 it's not about religious ideologies, it's about implementation of same rules and laws through out all regions of a country.
It's pertaining to removal of special status to a certain state.
Anyways , you won't get it.. don't stress your mind much..it won't think beyond hindu muslim riots.
neerav galathia lol
i know india has always been an unsafe country for women and indians are intolerant and quick to blame
i don't need to understand
neerav galathia debate happening in india would be abusing each other
and anyway fights and riots are very normal in india
nothing new
Your Excellency------ did United Nations resolution on kashmir was included in foreign affairs part of article 370?
Such debates in such a decent manner should be arranged in India so that Young Minds can learn techniques to debate. Youth will evolve...
If two fishes are fighting in river a Britisher must have passed through it
Yeah. The middle east, Cyprus,Kashmir, india-pakistan, sri lanka, Sudan,myanmar you name it we have it.
Those who gifted this mess,
Are organizing an debate on this issue,this is just like making fun of our personal tensions.
Wonderful informative debate..../ Malaysia
1% Indians agree that revocation of article 370 was wrong.
37% Indians agree that revocation of article 370 was right.
45% Indians don't have a view about it.
99.99% Indians agree that both these politicians should be kicked in ass for doing this debate in the country which is responsible for all this mess.
Kashmir issue has no meaning in UNO. UNO is not even interested in it for a moment. UNO has other issues. Anyway, UNO means USA. So, the Kashmir issue is deliberately kept unresolved so that the USA can use India/Pakistan as a tool in the future for their any biggest benefits in the region. A renowned example is the Pakistan nuclear experiment. USA was about to impose sanction on Pakistan but kept silent as the USA needed Pakistani land against Russia in the Afghan war. Just like that, in the future, if the USA needs any help from Pakistan or India. They will just hand over the Kashmir to the respective country in reward. But poor and stupid Pakistani and Indian people are just raising slogan in the hope that they will get Kashmir by doing that. 😂
It's just a waste of time and energy. Nothing will happen.
Both the speakers were gentle, learned, and democratic, though from left and right.
lmao bjpdude came out lookin goofy asF asking mfs to google shit lol
in india they would be shouting loudly
Altaf Kalam well so... that's what living in india is...
shouting and arguing
@@musicisimportant5699 because audience prefer that type of debates, this type of debates will become boring for most of them
Bengal famine was churchills gift to india and they talk about humanity
surya dev delhi riots 2020 and gujarat riots 2002 is modi's gift
@@iknowyoubetter2028 obviously not... Trying hard to hide facts..
LK Panga what is more important something in recent india or before india as a nation
surya dev it was south asia then no india
if west bengal was not a part of india you would not worry
funny right
@@iknowyoubetter2028 My friend, this is a discussion in an academic setting, where studenta learn by discussion and hear different viewpoints. Why are you upset by this respectful debate and discussion? It has nothing to do with British this or that. Just a discussion in a college. I'm disappointed to see a lot of the commentators are over-sensitive over the mere idea of having a discussion.
"Democracy is the right to live." Wow!
Spoken by a Communist on behalf of people who took away the rights of others just for power the Kashmir vally politicians.
It's shocking to see love of sitaram yechuri for Rohinya Muslims taking shelter in India but he seems to have forgotten earlier statement of communist leaders including himself that India has become intolerant .is itreally safe to Rohingyas to take refuge in intolent County or prefer to move other peace loving countries?At last why Rohinyas have been driven out from Myanmar? the reason best known to all.
Rules of debate r marvelous, i wish Indian news channels follow this rather thn just shouting
Brits draw line b/w Pakistan Nd India
Indian wow such marvelous debate 🤣🤣🤣
India is much more beautiful than London in her own ways..we are one of the oldest civilisation in the world
THE INDIAN NEWS CHANNELS ARE JUST STUPID. TALK LIKE DOGS AND BARK. NO SENSE
Now that's way They start hitting you
@@divyasatheesh2529 and still worship animals, GROW UP!
Yechuri is Communist, but his Wealth is Big..
He want Poverty to go, but only limited to his Family not Nation..
Bloddy rascal don't talk of muslims of chiana but only vote bank politics
@@bhushananeja4518 Why would he😂
He'll get kicked by his owners there.
Not to forget,
Indian Communists had boycotted blood donation camps for Indian Army personnel during 1962 war😡😡
Parth Kulkarni : CPI supported Indian army and the Soviet Union started sending MIG aircraft since November 1962, contract was signed in March 1962 but Morarji Desai was against it.
@@parthkulkarni1126 facts people don't know, good point
Thak u
And definitely audience will cheer for the person who will say against the main reason india making its mark in the world.
Kashmir will be free soon ☝️ in Sha Allah I'm from iok
Oxford, dare to hold a debate on Churchil's role in Bengal famine?
They can only glorify that pig, no one has the balls to question him.
History is not a matter of debate in present times.
@@akashagarwal829 History defines the present, a state of denial will not change that.
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It’s because 99% of people in India did not know how to read and write before the English came all India had was cast and few cast like bramins had kept India in darkness. Now you have the education just because of all Christian missionaries. If you can talk about present then you have grown up else you are stuck to the past and be a childish person
If only our politicians can have a civilised discussion on the floor of the Parliament half the problems we face will be resolved.
Fascinating to see the progeny of those who destroyed the fabric of India moderating between those who are debating crisis in Kashmir.
Very positive debate 👌🇮🇳🇮🇳
Sorry, Mr sitaram, half truth is dangerous, Indians can't buy agricultural land in himachal and uttarakhand.
Kashmiri leaders are in jail because they looted Kashmir.
FEKUCHAND N HIS CLOWNS AMBANI, ADANI N MANY MORE ARE LOOTING INDIA SINCE BJP CAME INTO POWER.
@@truthtruth9323 grow up man grow up now ambani adani were the richest people of india since early 90s
Grow up man grow up
@@vinybhat9365 FOR YOUR INFORMATION, TO BE RICHEST THROUGH GENIUNE WAYS IS NOTHING WRONG BUT USING GOVT TO MAKE MORE MONEY USING LEFT N RIGHT WAYS, IT IS HARMFUL AND DANGEROUS FOR COUNTRY. IF YOU DIDN'T TAKE MODI MADIRA THAN YOU MSY GET THE POINY OTHERWISE I DON'T HAVE ANY CURE FOR FEKU SYNDROME.
Hahahah So Why Bjp Alliance with PDP pagal samjha hai
That alliance was the first step. Understand politics and diplomacy.
Great debate oxford.
Suggestion for next debate:
*KOHINOOR- When should Britain return it to BHARAT*
Nationalist meow right after the internet is restored in J&K
S Aaban resrored?
Nationalist meow it would have been returned un 1800s
That’s not belong to Bharat it’s belongs to Muslims rulers of old India those who you disassociated all the time .
How will return of KOHINOOR benefit India????? So stupid
It would have been better to have a kashmiri to represent kashmir.
So everybody should know the situation in kashmir
Your style of presentation is good as it is explained by examples.