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In this enthralling debate, Professor Tariq Ramadan and Maryam Namazie go head-to-head on the topic of Islam in Europe today.
Listed in a 2008 report called Victims of Intimidation: Freedom of Speech within Europe's Muslim Communities, Namazie has had multiple lectures no-platformed and disrupted. She is spokesperson for the Council of ex-Muslims and for Iranian Solidarity. Her writing specialises in challenging cultural relatavism and political Islam.
Professor of contemporary Islamic Studies in Oxford, Tariq Ramadan has held positions in Universities across the world, he is also persona non grata in at least six countries including Saudi Arabia and Egypt for his challenges to undemocratic regimes.
Namazie and Ramadan will be debating some of the biggest challenges facing Islam today.
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2020, 4 years later. Europe is more Islamised.
The British Labour Party is all Islamic.
still other countries are not understanding their tricks
@@markjayd8704 that may be possible but in europe we arent pushing people of buildings for being homosexuals we arent saying abusing women is ok, we arent radicalising our youth
@@maximus8574 Its islamabad, its the capital, dude! go check the human development index of islamabad.
If you are ranked so high in hdi, health, security, education, freedom of expression etc
Then how do you imagine shaming homosexuality or youths radicalization is even possible.
Don't believe in what anyone say to you. you should go there and find by and for yourself!
Pkmkb
When did a religion become a race?
Is there such a thing as Christianophobia or Hinduphobia or buddhiphobia?
+mackjeez The suffix -phobia has nothing to do with races, so the term "Islamophobia" can be used.
@ryan4305
I completely agree but you missed the point of my argument.
The issue is that the term (islamaphobia) is more often than not associated with race.
Even in 2011 the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) began defining islamaphobia as a form of racism.
Every Muslim association and even the Arab League state that"Islam is not a race", but Islamophobia is racism.
Which doesn't make any freaking sense.
It's like saying "Christianity is not a race", but Christophobia is racism.
Since the jews convinced everybody they were the chosen people. Been happening for centuries.
mackjeez What i don't understand is why so many people makes a huge deal about it. You're correct racism isn't the right term to describe islamophobia but you understood the point he wanted to make, so why don't you just add it to the long list of commonly misused words ?
ryan4305
Well, the issue is that it's a pretty big word to be misused, especially in modern western society. Imagine Christians using Christophobia the same way Islam is using Islamophobia.
A journalist, celebrity, actor...etc.. can literately bash Christians and Christianity to their heart's content without repercussions. By acknowledging that any criticizing of Islam is considered Islamophobic (racist), you are creating a scenario where in western society, you cannot under any circumstance criticize the religion or it's actions.
It's bad enough people died by drawing a cartoon of their prophet, but soon we won't even be able to state the obvious problems of Islam without being called a bigot, racist or even worse, be persecuted for our opinions.
This "misused word" shouldn't even exist let alone be associated with something like racism.
"A smart person knows what to say (and their right to say), a wise person knows whether to say it or not."
The Quran is by far and easily one of the most communal books ever written if not the most communal
@@fuyoutube854 alhamdulilah
Rightly said...
@@barrak2k059 he was mocking it, u misunderstood his comment.
@Michael Smyth *way of life.*^
Being a Christian for all my generations I would never imagined that one day people would come up with something called defending their right to insult a religion.
and play the victim when people respond🤦♀️
@@suma6881 jesus is a god, the people who said he was their prophet lost their caliphate
now, we expose a child rapist with the best cartoons and people are raging because they think they are the victims of muhamed cartoons...
alla has slaves, if you mock alla for being needy, you do not insult a religion
Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim
Allah said in the Qur'an
Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were 'once' one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing, Will they not then believe?
And We have placed firm mountains upon the earth so it does not shake with them, and made in it broad pathways so they may find their way.
And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy, still they turn away from its signs.
And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon- each traveling in an orbit.
We have not granted immortality to any human before you ' O Prophet', so if you die, will they live forever?
Every soul will taste death, And We test you 'O humanity' with good and evil as a trial, then to Us you will 'all' be returned.
[ Qur'an 21: 30-35 ]
@@straightpath3626 scientists know that there are no heavens, Ptolemy was wrong
anyone who rejects the prophets and the bible is a disbeliever, and hell is their destiny
ps your man made quran is corrupt and pagan
@@worfoz
Congratulation to you for attacking Islam impatiently.
We know your disease in the deep of your heart.
Only Allah's will one could know about Islam otherwise not.
Allah hate arrogant people who compare any of His creation with Him.
how is saying that Islamic values don't fit into Europe, racist? Islam is a belief, not a race.
+Martin Shaw u're right , islam is not a race there are muslims from all races , white , black , asian, latino , middle eastern but the thing in common is that they all feel discriminated for their beliefs in the west
+Sally Zan They deserve to be discriminated against.
dutch1999 oh really well that's what u think who are u to judge 1,6 bilion ppl
Sally Zan Everyone judges other people. Anyone who says they don't is lying. No single group of people is as discriminatory against outsiders as muslims are. Until that changes they have no grounds to complain about being discriminated against.
Sally Zan
it is true that muslims in the West face discrimination, but of the positive variety. They are given preferential treatment over other communities by the governments in many ways. Their Koran also tells muslims that non-muslims are less than they, and should be discriminated against accordingly. So you are quite correct to point this out.
Maryam, you made me proud of being Iranian after watching your speech. hats off to you.
i know how difficult it is for Iranian women to speak up like you.
you are a brave woman👍
Agree as Iran oppresses women
I agree! I love Iranians!! such wonderful, cultured, educated people!! woman are beautiful and smart!! it makes me sad that the regime treats them with no dignity. Maryam is absolutely right and so smart!! I’m not Iranian, I just watched the debate and fell in love with her!!
Amazing, after so long, this vid is still drawing new audiences
Thats because religious denial is an undyingbeast.
It is refreshing to see you actually creating controversy and tackle delicate issue of liberal values. Good job to the whole board.
it's time to wake up Europe
It's PAST time for Europe to wake up!
@The Last Saxon well didn't go so well😏😏
Yes, wake up, stop provoking us.
Right
@m d He is A NOT GOOD MUSLIM THEN!!
You have no right to kill me for what I say
That's a strawman.
Neither debater promoted such a thing! Dr Ramadan was stridently clear in his support for free speech even against Islam, while the woman seemed concerned only with the freedom to lampoon Islam.
@Catherine Stonestreet Saudi Arabia, Iran, Oman and some other Muslim countries forbid alcohol consumption and punish violators by whipping.
Except if you're Christian. In that case they allow it, although perhaps not in public. That seems very lenient to me when I think about laws regarding alcohol and drugs in the west.
@Catherine Stonestreet
Your argument against the statement "you have no right to say something that kills me inside" is to tell that person to go back where they came from or to assimilate if they want to stay whatever you live. But is that really the right response? There's nothing in the statement that identifies the person as a foreigner and the statement itself doesn't strike me as really controversial. There are many examples of things we forbid each other to say, certainly in public, because it hurts people, because "it kills them inside". I should say because it kills *us* inside, though. We now say "the N word" when that word was once commonplace. And there are some things you can say that US courts have deemed "fighting words" and saying them akin to a physical assault. Who wants the right to say something so hurtful it kills someone else inside anyway? Or what could anyone have to say that is so important it requires being permitted to be so hurtful to someone else. Maybe there is something but I can't think of what it might be.
I hope you reconsider the question. I think it's what you would want that other person to do regarding you and your feelings.
Catherine Stonestreet mother Mary wore exactly that your bible says you should cover your head then how is it wrong to practice that I think you should too
@Catherine Stonestreet Like I said, you're welcome to laugh at my clothes but it's not right you expect me to wear a burka. Please try to pay attention.
Now, back to your request: how am I supposed to blow you, you being a woman? I'll be honest, it's a weird request, but, no judgements here! Whatever gets you off. You want me to wear a burka? Let's both wear burkas!
Love this conversation one of the best 🦁🦁🦁🦁💪💪💪💪💪🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🦦🦦🦦🦦🦦
A live face-to-face debate is always good to watch, both educational and entertaining. Probably the only thing missing was no final vote on a winner. Would be really precious if they could repeat it now, after 7 October 2023 (if that's at all possible if one is under investigation on rape charges).
His statement: “Islam doesn’t need reform.” said it ALL. Comprehensive, bare-bones and stark.
Second part of which was “ I want to reform Muslim minds.” Catchy thing to say isn’t it!? But empty, meaningless,manipulative sound bite. Realistically, what reform by progressive Muslims is allowed in a rigid fundamentalist religion where the faithful can’t even leave the religion, nevermind try to reform from within?! Their murder is called for. Let’s start with that.
It is a religion which brooks no alternate opinion- whatsoever. Either from believers or non-believers.
Ninja FEESE ...Troll.🤣
Ninja FEESE ...no force? Please! It’s nothing but oppression.
Ninja FEESE ...I’m sure you’d like to think so, it would make you feel better. What I am is thrilled that my mind is not chained by unproven, nonsensical, ridiculous, dangerous belief in this religion of a supernatural entity and the illiterate peasant that supposedly brought the word of it to you all. Islam is the ‘total’ solution- first five letters of totalitarianism - oppression of ALL people. How dare you and your ilk? The world is becoming more secular, people are waking up.
to islam their religion is the perfect religion and needs no reform. actually its not a religion but an ideology within a cult
I loved this discussion.. very interesting ...
So incredible!!
Wow. Ms. Namazie (please forgive me if I got that wrong) was awesome. She was articulate, educated, truthful and insightful. It’s even more impressive that she didn’t fall into the philosophical and semantic traps this gentleman attempted to throw at her. Hands down she was the winner of this debate!
@Pain Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but in the future let’s use facts.
Islam is not a race, Tariq!
hi the term racism is used to define discrimination of both race and creed to be honest. the only other terms more accurate would be islamophobic or 'religist'
+faction52 Rubbish. A creed is not race either. Stop making stuff up. A religion is not a race, you can change your religion but not your race. A religion is a set of ideas, bad ones most of the time.
+Julie Paterson i know of course a creed is not a race but the term racism has been used to describe the literal race discrimination and also more broadly for religious descrimination. its just the word thay is used. it would be more accurate to say religist but i dont think that has come into the oxford dictionary just yet
+Boogey Man rubbish
+Al Cubz well any religious state christian or muslim may be considered discriminatory as their head of state has to be of a certain religion. this is the world we live in
Why can't this people host show on Christianity in middle East?
Sir . Lebanon was a Christian country few years back now it was a Muslim country. Turkey was a ruled by a Christian leader and now a it was a muslim country ther number will be small but it will multiply in big number why they are traveling 4000 kilometers to Europe ,when they have rich neighbourhood countries like Saudi Dubai oman Qatar omen that they can share same language and culture that can mingle with them.
Boronchi Pradeep how did Islam reach Indonesia and Asia when no Islam Empire in history has ever stretch into Indonesia or China where mosques are being burnt down by the government as we speak. Look in your history books. Even the Mughals never got that far or had the technology to introduce the beautiful qualities Islam has within its way of life. Explain that. Indonesia a land of islands and indigenous people have been presented Islam by who? I’ll answer that. The Quran reached them. Not people. They read it and understood it. Didn’t spread through war or conquer.
Because we know everything about christianity and beyond that you follow ... So time to give you some knowledge fam... peace ✌🏿
@@alemradoncic368 ... You won my heart!
Aly Mohammed I just speak with truth and I observe what is presented with open eyes and without doubt. As long as your curious and like Allah said “do you not ponder?” I just want to be the person with the answers to your questions.
The lady taking part in this debate spoke with deep subject knowledge. There was little or no fat on her words, delivered with authority, conviction and utter clarity
Lol
@@ugursenturk5860 when you quit giggling, do you have a point you wanna make?
@@paulgrech4210nah
@@ugursenturk5860 shocker
@@paulgrech4210 absolutley
Great job Maryam Namazi! It's so idiotic to call Charlie Hebdo racist! Poking fun at religion shall be completely free.
Ramadan-patronizing, bullying his opponent. Difficult to follow. Slick & slimy.
Maryam-a voice worth listening to; courageous & clear. Admirable.
He’s a rapist
www.islamahmadiyya.net/index.asp?ver=2.1
@@bennevis6843 www.islamahmadiyya.net/index.asp?ver=2.1
She is confused beween islam and islamist,little knowledge ,she want gain something from others by saying Iam ex muslin,ramadan had clear points understanble and logical ,a knowledge is a key dud
Ramdan is a slimy rapist
Being obsessed with one's rights is very arrogant? This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He just doesnt understand human rights in their purest form. It's scary listening to him get applause.
Chaz The demographic of the audience provides an answer.
Very informative and interesting debate and i appreciate to Lady she is leading very well
Thanks again sir
Is it just me or is this room full of Muslims?
+Antonio Brandao Its just you
+Antonio Brandao its just you.. specsaver 2 for 1 buddy
+Antonio Brandao No its not just you, thats what always happens with debates about islam, they flood the room to try and intimidate and jeer at the opponent and interrupt, youtube it , it happens all the time
+xRsAtx
the problem is that the muslim guy is much more rational.... and that's the problem for islam and muslim haters....
+Antonio Brandao I'd assume that there is a method for inviting audience, maybe reserved seats or something. But at least this thread is full of Muslims ;)
First give freedom of speech and expression to women in Islam.
@Alpha Man Still there are 90% Muslim women wearing hijab like being in prison
virendra singh take a challenge instead of showing off you ignorance and hence hate towards the most glorious religion that civilised the barbaric world and continues to do so even to this day! Show where the quran says women do not have freedom of speech and expression.
@Alpha Man Considering how they're made to dress and how they're treated in Islamic countries, um ... Yeah.
@Alpha Man If the only Monotheistic religion on the table was Islam and the greatest apologist in the world in opposition to Islam was destroyed by a Muslim (in a debate, not a terrorist attack), then I would renounce Monotheistic religions and become a Polytheist.
virendra singh please stop being an ignorant biased individual just because you are a hater of Islam.
The contrast is so so stark between Hinduism and Islam! Islam saved the women and made them equal more than 1400 years ago! Most of the so called western world is still backward in so many ways as compared to what Islam bestowed women 1400 years ago! Women were leaders! Oldest running university in the world was established by a Muslim woman! Shame on you! Do you think Benazir Bhutto and successive Prime ministers of Bangladesh do not have freedom to do anything? What a nonsensical biased individual you are!
FYI, Iran has more women representatives in its government than the so called leader of the world USA!
You think they were all silent, had no freedom of speech and expression and yet they got elected?
India kills females in infancy! Islam was the first religion to abolish such a barbaric practice! And Indian Hindutwa governance allows it as I speak!
And tell me which Muslim country this is:
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Great debate.
I know my right but I won't hurt my children. Simple example.
Why do they always resort to ad hominem.. Lady was so respectful and precise
When???
I saw the whole debate it was good, thanks for posting it
My peace i bring to you my peace i leave with you please give ala his rightful place ln his world he is going to judge all evi jesus is the ansure .
@@cyrilclarke7469 I didn’t understand ur sentence?
***////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////****
Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
are all prophets according to the Quran
@@hannawurst6064 I dont understand
does someone explain this curiosity in Islam to me? If Allah is not YHWH!
**The word God (Allah, El , ELohim,.......) is just a title !! YHWH is the proper name of the 1 true God!**
Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ALLAH IS YHWH***
Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY GOD IS YHWH***
Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ELOHIM IS YHWH***
Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY EL IS YHWH***
Honestly in every meaningful society there is right to freedom of expression, but it should be used with respect for humanity. So please don't allow political selfish interest to blindfold the TRUTH.
Islam is dieing thank goodness
@@donaldhawkins5209 ur mum is dying white boi sharia law takin over inshallah Allah hu akbar
@@Chowmein977 My brother, please be a good example to other people to spread the message of Islam. That's how Muslims are.. 🙏🙏
@@Chowmein977 HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh this nikka
***////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////****
Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
**********are all prophets according to the Quran**************
Watched all of it again
The lady is brilliant and she made Ramadan look as he is. A cunning two faced liar. He speaks calm nice and relaxed, but he's an Islamist at heart.
This aged well - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan ; "In November 2017, Tariq Ramadan took leave of absence from Oxford to contest allegations of rape and sexual misconduct.[10] The university's statement noted that an "agreed leave of absence implies no acceptance or presumption of guilt".[4] In February 2018, he was formally charged with raping two women: a disabled woman in 2009 and a feminist activist in 2012.[11][12] In September 2019, the French authorities have expanded the investigation against Ramadan, already charged with raping two women, to include evidence from two more alleged victims.[13] On 5 December 2019, a Swiss woman who had accused him of rape in 2018, launched a new case against him for slander.[14] In February 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping two more women[15] and in October 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping a fifth woman.[16]"
@@eduardofangueiro4066 It doesn't surprise me he's a very arrogant guy who's ego is bigger then the man.
After witnessing this debate I came to learn that in Muslim/Islam majority places every freedom is restricted.
You aren't allow to speak against their interest even if you think it is not right. Everyone is force to go with it even if you think it is wrong.
Well almost all countries have certain restrictions to maintain their interest. it's not something uniquely "Islamic".
Every country's constitution makes some restrictions for citizens. If there is no restrictions place will be miserable.
We should have certain restriction, but they have too many restrictions.
That is what I mean.
@@Funtimevideos402 Those two that commented do not care what you meant, they care only to make excuses for islam, and the comparison with a countries laws or constitution is ridiculous, and childish, compared to their shitty book that commands them to kill everything and everyone that is a polytheist or infidel to islam. They can not EVER correct themselves, and they will ALWAYS follow a shit book that was written by a shithed 1500 years ago, because they believe that rubbish to be the word of god and therefore infallible. They do all belong in a mental asylum, where heavy doses of valium is given for breakfast, with electric schock as a desert.
@@GeorgeFafa Its so easy to spew hatred on this platform. I would love you to express your views face to face ( with a mask on of course). The question posed is a strange interpretation of one person expressing their absolute right to say anything no matter how offensive as apposed to another who says that one should criticise but always be respectful. This comes from someone who is banned in 6 Arab countries.
Great debate
Well-said Mariam Namazi!
I *have* to be free to have the toughts that I have.
And I *have* to be free to speak them, as much as I want.
This is the freedom I want, because it's the *duty* that I have to myself and to others.
Victor Rodrigues oLmi!
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You have a right to your freedom but you have the right to respect others or stay away from them and also you have the right to obedience because with all your rights at your own place can't be replicated to other people or other places if they are in line with your self needed freedom.
@@abrahamjatta1676, you have no idea what freedom of speech is. What does 'right of obedience' mean, what are you talking about? Obedience, is it a right or is it a duty? You seem to be confused.
If you don't agree with my freedom of speech, you are free to go. And, if I agree with that, you are free to refute my arguments. That's the freedom that you have (and that I have).
'Right to obedience'??? Obedience to whom? To you, to muslims? You are wrong, man! This is a free world, not even God forces you to obey Him; let alone men can force you.
You have a long road to go in learning what 'freedom' means...!
@@victorrodrigues5448 everyone is obedient to something
Your obedient to your view of freedom we our
But as far as I see nowadays freedom means disrespecting others belief
Ones freedom clashing with others
World going down in hell
It depends what thoughts you have. Harmful thoughts is not logic to share and double standard thoughts has to be explained individually as it depends on the mental value of that individual.
We humans are blessed with intellect only to realize how stupid we are, and we are getting closer to our goal every day
Lol
Allaah is the creator of everything earth and sky and everything in universe and above you your belief and us our believe your choice leave us alone we pray for your guidance we love Our creator.we worship one All mighty ALLAAH THAT IS IT ACCEPT OR REJECT YOUR PROBLEM.MAY YOU RECEIVE GUIDANCE.WE WILLNEVER INSULT ANY RELIGION NOR ANY PROPHET OF ALLAAH WE LOVE AND RESPECT THEM ALL..MAY YOU STOP YOUR HATRED OR JEAULOSY FOR MUSLIMS YOUR OPINION IS NOT IMPORTANT IF YOU ARE PART OF SOCIETY RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE'S BELIEFS WE ARE IN ONE WORLD HELP TO STOP THE WARS AGAINST MUSLIMS STOP THOSE WHO MURDER TORTURE OCCUPY STEAL WEALTH OF POOR COUNTRIES IT IS DISGUSTING ILLEGAL SHAMEFUL .STOP EVIL THAT IS A MUCH BETTER WAY FOR YOU MUSLIM OR NOT WE ARE ALL CREATURES OF THE SAME KIND SPEAK GOOD OF EACH OTHER ISLAAM IS NOT AN IDEA IT IS A WAY OF LIFE.WE BELIEVE IN ALLAAH AND FOLLOW OUR BELOVED PROPHET PEACE BE UPON HIM. HE IS THE SEAL OF THE PROPHETS NO MORE MESSENGERS.AFTER HIM WE ARE THE LAST OF CREATION.END OF TIME WILL COME SOONER OR LATER.ISLAAM WILL SURVIVE..YOU AND NO ONE CAN AND WILL STOP ISLAAM NO EVIL GOVERNMRNTS WILL EVER SUCCEED LONG LIVE MUSLIMS LONG LIVE ISLAAM LONG LIVE JUSTICE AND PEACE .WE PRAY FOR LOVE AND PEACE AND TO LIVE SIDE BY SIDE IN PEACE.AND HARMONY WE LOVE ALL CREATION OF ALLAAH WE FEAR NO ONE BUT ALLAAH WE ARE NOR AFRAID OF ANY ONE BUT ALLAAH.THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.LETS STOP ALL KILLINGS AND STEALING OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES .OUR EXISTANCE.AND OUR DIGNITY..THIS WORLD NOW NEED NEW JUST LEADERS.AND STOP THIS GLOBALISATION EXPROPIATION.AND JUGLE AND PAGANISM IS GONE FROM THIS WORLD IT CAN'T COME BACK IT IS FINISH WE AS WOMAN SHOULD APPRECIATE OUR LAWS IN QURAAN OUR CHAPTERS IN QURAAN WHICH PROTECTS ALL WOMEN IN THIS WORLD WE ARE FAVOURED ABOVE ALL WE ARE GRATEFUL.TO THE QURAAN AND PRAY TO BE BENIFICIAL . TO ALL WOMAN AND MEN WE HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER WITH LOVE AND RESPECT.ISLAAM IS FOR ALL
@J C im muslim but the comment above is the worst way to preach, reminds me of christians who just say:"Repent"
@@lizzmiirad7903 and please please don't tell me that it's because it's immature when the question is based off the fact that you do indeed justify it...
@Bob Smith 🤦♂️
Tariq with all Respect due to You - I didn't think that ' she had contradictions '. As a matter of Fact - I feel that she " Truly Brings home a great many ' Core Important Points ' that need ' Sorely to be Addressed ' !!!!
" Open Discussion & Contextual REFORM in Islam is Badly Needed " !!!!
I bear witness that none deserves worship except Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah,
@JOHN JAMES HARPER where do u get this moon god thing from lol
@JOHN JAMES HARPER mate ffs where do u get this info from lol
It's better to convert everything to english like God did with non arabic names in quran and call Allah God.
@JOHN JAMES HARPER "Maybe the crescent moon on top of your mosques."
Ok you worship a cross then .. Pagan ..
@JOHN JAMES HARPER bokachoda
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it"
Go to Europe have 10 kids each and not follow their laws isn’t a civilised way to settle down . Is it ?
Go to Middle East bomb them with all kind of weapons , steal their oil , gold and other resources isn't a civilised way to settle down.Is it?
@@fbbinoire201 Peacefuls be like:
@The young G you dont even know to read properly , when i said settle? go back to school little kid
@The young G cry again
Please put the text bellow, because I still lack of knowledge in vocabulary :)
I am a Muslim and I love to practice Islam, that was Taught by our Prophet PBUH
Muhammad was a white racist and sexist
Sahih al-Bukhari Book 3 Hadith 63
-Narrated Anas bin Malik:
While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The an then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib." The Prophet said, "I am here to answer your questions."
Sahih Muslim 6081 - “It was narrated that Abu Juhaifah said: ‘I saw the Messenger of Allah with a white complexion and some white hairs.’
Sahih Muslim 6071 - “It was narrated from Al-Jurairi from Abu At-Tufail…he was white with an elegant face.’
“…the whiteness of his cheeks.” 4:1208
Sunan abu dawud- 3:1002
The Muslim sources even go out of their way to remind us how white Muhammad was. They frequently reference the whiteness of his various body parts-something that was not mentioned about any other prophet, from Abraham to Zachariah.
Find the following in sahih albukari
“The whiteness of his shins.” 1:8:367
“…the whiteness of the thigh of Allah’s Prophet.” 8:3325
“…the whiteness of his leg.” 456:7:67
“…the whiteness of his stomach.” 9:90:342
“…the whiteness of his armpits.” 8:78:631
Find in sunan abu dawud
“…the whiteness of the forearms.” 20:3200
*WHITE MUHAMMAD OWNED BLACK SLAVES*
Sahih Al bukhari- 7263,6161
Black slave shot to death while holding Muhammad's luggage- 3858
So mubammad had sex with a 9year old girl, robbed caravans, beheaded hundreds of Jews (he is okay)- but this black man grabbed cloak before spoils were divided so he is going to hell
Provisions of the Afterlife Which Lie Within Prophetic Guidance (By Ibn Qayyim Al-jawziya) list 28 of the slaves muhammad owned. Named a woman "ship" in arabic because he loaded her like a ship to carry his things.
Muhammad had sex with his slaves- ibn ishaq page.653 (i guess thats only creepy when thomas jefferson does it)
*he called black people "raisin heads" sahih albukari- 7142
A woman may never be a leader because their mind is deficient of a man, and since oprah wants to run for prez and she is black. Guess muhammad disagrees-7099
*MUHAMMAD SAYS SATAN LOOKS LIKE A BLACK MAN* ibn ishaq page 243.
If you say muhammad was black. Thats a death penalty. AL SHIFA-Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman page 387
Why are some black people muslim.... they should be some of the last people to become muslim. Muhammad was clearly a false prophet. Muhammad thought he was possesed by a demon.. he was a sinner and couldnt save anyone let alone himself
JESUS THE CHRIST HISTORICALLY EXISTED, HE HISTORICALLY CLAIMED HE IS GOD, HISTORICALLY WAS CRUCIFIED FOR DOING SO,
HE HISTORICALLY ROSE FROM THE DEAD.
If he failed, morality becomes subjective, but guess what he didnt! There is real hope for real Justice from our creator. The day of salvation is today! What do you have to lose but your pride!
Have you researched how your sacred text was put together? Or by whom? I gather that of the some 600,000 writings that were gathered only about 2% were kept and the rest were burnt. This occurred long after his death. One seeking to run everything gathered the writings and he gave them to one man to go through. If Muhammad was a true prophet and the last one what were these two guys? You do not even face in the direction of the gathering place (mecca) that Muhammad went to, searched for his path, and then supposedly found it. Men who come after a person who was supposedly gifted by an entity ALWAYS mess with things. Abdul ..... Malik is the one who picked the guy who burnt 98% of writings about or by your Prophet. Then Malik created the Quran. Muhammad was long dead and neither met him. Petra is the direction the earliest mosques faced. It also fit the physical description of his mecca. The rivers are no longer there but the were. Your mecca was never visited by Muhammad because there was nothing there. No trade routes, no olives, no grapes, no mountains, no farms, not even a creek, let alone two of them. The New Testament, Old Testament, and the Torah have similar problems.
Deebo Nash Actually Arabs generally do not consider themselves “white”. Real Arabs are actually semetic. Hilarious. Anyway, I suggest you read up on the genetics and research about Homo Sapien skin shades. And look at color charts. Especially for varying shades of brown. I stand out when I am in front of a white sheet. My makeup is pale beige to beige depending on how much I am in the sun. Add to that is you and I share the same ancient “mother”. As with ALL our Homo Sapien relatives, the farther from the Equator our people settled the lighter shade of brown they tended to be. How much time spent in sunlight affected it too. Old photos of many indigenous of what is now North America show most as dark brown to “black”. Not red. Same with some of the Japanese and other East Asians. I gather “pale” did not start showing up among the Homo Sapiens of Europe until a measly 14,000 years ago. The source I read said it took about 6,000 years for it to be the dominate shade of brown. This has probably been adjusted since I read about it two years ago. You and I could might be able to trace our genetic markers back to the same tribe in Africa. I gather we evolved from the same rodent that survived a near extinction event. Hi coz’.
@@conniead5206 this is grade Sahih. Ya dumbass how about know that this is from their top scholars not my words. Sahih is as authentic as it gets. Donkey
"Can any Muslim convince me that Koran is the true Word of God? Can anyone tell me the name of the person who died on the cross instead of Jesus? Why He admitted He is the Son of God? Why Allah resurrected Him? Why He didn’t tell the truth to the disciples of Jesus that he is not Jesus but instead commissioned them to preach Jesus’ resurrection to the whole world?"
There is no right to unjustified VIOLENCE‼️
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That can become tricky when u call out any criticism as ''VIOLENCE''.
@@endryl08 Violence in Islam as seen by the world = kidnaping, murder, invasion
cuz the world is jealous at Islam,and want to look at Islam from a poor angle
for some reasons
fastest growing religion for a reason :)
She made a good point about being able to mock Christianity liberally and not Jewish or Islam.
Do you know how many Jews in Hollywood mocked Judaism?
In Israel we have a tv serious called "The Jews are coming" - Mocked everything in Judaism!
As a Jewish guy, its fine with me. Religion needs to care about its people and those don't believe in that religion. Definitely not harm anyone physically!
I’ve never more expected for a debate in my life
Very good 👍
From India
Maryam Namazie is my heroine.
Brave woman to expose the medieval ideology of this particular form of theology
Yes brave enough 😂😅😅😃
Her argument was flawed and unintelligent us-based.
If Islam is so evil then give back hospitals, universities (made by Muslim woman) everything from math to the English language. Europe was in the dark ages whilst Islamic golden age led them into the renaissance. Dont use cameras then since it was by Muslims and also dont use 80% of everything we use modernly from maps to the internet.
@John Adams
With all due respect person with two first names,
The first university in history was made by a Muslim WOMAN. Modern day medicine, dentistry, numbers heck half the English language can be attributed to the romance labguage influence of the middle east and Islamic Renaissance [which they wont teach you in school]. Stop drinking coffee eating bananas and using indoor plumbing! dont use hospitals! it was all made by them! oh and the camera! oh and canon of medicine! etc.
www.1001inventions.com/
and
Islamic golden age:
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Also India was Islamic at that time before British massacre and colonization genocide- there is no discriminatory separation of ethnicity nor racism in islam. You can be Indian or Chinese or white or African and be Muslim. Its a religion for humanity not just arabs, So better luck next time:
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said:
"All mankind is from Adam and Eve. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; a white has no superiority over a black, nor does a black have any superiority over a white; [none have superiority over another] except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves".
(Sahih Hadith)
Therefore anyone who claims to be muslim and is racist is most likely ignorant of the teachings of all our prophets including Jesus Christ peace be upon him.
Thank you and peace be upon the just, honest and the good.
@@PB-si5zt the muslims were so advanced they gave women rights and separated themselves from the patriarchy (Europeans didn't even think women had souls).
I want to see this type of debate in a islamic majority country.
There must be a conclusion by Oxford behalf over replying Given by both so that there will be who respons was fairly ok to the topic
The crusaders didn't die for Europe to have a debate about this shit.
No, they died for land and wealth. And they happened to kill thousands of innocents for their strictly selfish goals as well. Even Pope Urban II had selfish motives. He called for the crusades in order to gain the upper hand in his struggle with Antipope Clement III.
Sure, and it had nothing to do with the prior 300 year long Islamic invasion of France, Hungary and Italy.
If that were the case, they would reconquer Spain, not Jerusalem. By the way, Hungary was never invaded by any Muslim until the 16th century.
This guy is a fool. How did he ever manage to become a Professor? The lady is a million times smarter.
Not at all
navid allahvaran yes absolutely
Very useful and important debate. I fully agree with the Lady debater. Oxford Union work is badly needed in today's controversial world.
One should never insult others. As a result he can react more severely .And then situation will be aggravated. Never play with the emotions of others.I think that man was more reasonable as compared to lady.
@@muhammadkhan-wu6mb both are right but slightly with the man
@@levi_2134 the man is entirely right
@@muhammadkhan-wu6mb he can react more severly? Is that islam teach you?
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We never insult you personally, we criticism the ideology of extremism.
If you think that criticising @islam is personal attack on you, then that's your issue and it should be changed if you are living in a non islamic country.
My house is my house
My duty to clean as l will
With no duty upon thee
Unless your aid l seek
Tariq Ramadan never answered the questions during Q&A and basically continued his own speech / attacks to his opponent.
Psyche1954 I personally don't make distinctions between Islam and Islamism. But i think I know what you mean... ;-)
***** Let me guess, you are one of this sublime intelligences who thinks Islam is just a religion....
Sleep well!
Hope you wake up before the shit hits the van, kid.
+Nick Dulic I am of Sicilian descent, we have been warring against " Islam " for over a Thousand years. Sicily spent 200 years in slavery to the Arabs, we have No Trust for them. " Love thy enemy " as you Love yourself ; but keep a Strong Wall and Gate.
+DonLeons Roszavilla so you distrust all Muslims?
+Nick Dulic What about what DonLeons Roszavilla said was not clear to you? I am also of Sicilian decent, and I agree entirely with him. It would be a grave insult to our ancestors to forget the historical trauma inflicted upon them for 200 years under Islamic tyranny. We must honor them by not allowing it to happen again.
this guy is literally contradicting what he says 5 mins before and is interrupting her. He is quite clearly, as the lady mentioned with his view on gender segregation, a misogynist.
Hannah Abdi Islam and Women’s Rights. A classic oxymoron.
Hannah Abdi Where on earth did you find killing and raping women in the tenets of Christianity?
Please allow eng subtitles
We in Europe do not except radicalised mentality of many who follow Islam ,millions have decided to come to Europe rather than on fifty Muslims countries ,many of us are alarmed by this religion ,we have been christian countries for more than five hundred years ,and migrates must understand when they come to our or other Christian countries they must understand ,they come here and must adhere to our culture and beliefs not the other way round .
muslims adhere how they can adhere and wont change their beliefs at all as that would make them change their belief systems and result to them not being muslims at all and many countries in europe are not christian countries but christian majority countries and are secular nations
muslims come to live their lives not to attack other people so i do not see a reason for you to be alarmed and 99 percent of muslims do not have a radical mentality so there is no reason for your RADICAL mentality
We arent dealing with a religion, we are dealing with an emergent theocracy.
@Wisdom Rising 😅😅
@Wisdom Rising Evidence of your nonsensical claims? Your still dreaming. You should probably wake up now.
all of you who are spreading hate just read the most wisdom book of all time :QURAN
Kemail Imeroski the Quran spreads hate
@@mountaindew3201 nop you are wrong and ignorant i was like you long time ago
She is great!
Agree with the lady. She is telling the truth.
Amin
She is so much clearer.
She lied about Mr Ramadan and avoided his questions, specially the one about the scandalous double standards of "Charlie Hebdo" who fired a veteran cartoonist who freely mocked Muslims and Islam because he did a satire piece about Sarkozy's son and his sudden rise to the political scene after marring a Jewish heiress, under the claim of "antisemitism" and "jewish hatred".
What do you expect, English is not his first language yet he speaks with more ambitious vocabulary than her.
Just to be fair isn't English his 3rd or 4th language though?
she just read
Cuz your mind can only perceive this much of dumbness, unfortunately
In Europe difference by looks, accent and especially behavior provokes prejudice from majority, yes. But very seldom a death or incarceration or even public beating.
15th
@@gingernoise711 no people are fucking bigots and racists in london you fool
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Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- *"YHWH SAVES "
Elijah means------------- --------------" MY GOD IS YHWH"
John means ----------------------------" YHWH has been gracious""
Zakariya means -----------------------""YHWH has remembered""
Jacob means----------------------------"YHWH will PROTECT!"
*******+++++++are all prophets according to the Quran++++++********
@@Hannestv4607
What’s your name? And what does it mean?
@@Hannestv4607 you are one of those that Jesus speek of you words that Jesus describe you as fool wicked adulterer that's how Jesus call someone like you your bible says so
This type of FORUM is a welcome decision to enlighten the public on their religions. I thank Allah SWT for giving us this chance to understand the right thing to follow and the wrong thing to throw away.
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the exactly the reason why your religion is not safe for other religions... because you guys will go to the extreme to even behead people.
don't act as if you are victims, most of the part of History your religion was always the perpetrator.
So when are you throwing away Islam?
Subtitle bahasa please !!
Tariq is not offering a solution..just looking to control and belittle.
PRECISELY!!!
Charle Abdou and all world attacks is 100% made by intelligence to make ppl hate Islam and Muslims so they go vote for racist parties like marine lepen and SD
By their fruits shall ye know them.
Amen.
You have a picture of ahriman so I doubt anyone should listen to you.
Fruits of crusides ? Or the frutis of Temple knight ? Or the fruits of colonization ? Or the fruit of destroying Iraq, Afgahnistan , libea .... ? The fruits of Hiroshema? WW1 /WW2 ? Inded By their fruits shall we know them !!! AMEN !!
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@@Anonymous-wt7mm the fruit of your labour. "fruitless are the deeds of darkness"
full of important imformation love learning with you
subtitle Indonesia nya ada neak...???
Politics uses religious differences to only create discomfort.
never said a truer words.. politics focus on more for world than afterlife thats why they willingly to do anything to get everything in the world before dying..
They'd use anything to get into power
This was interesting... I learned a few things which is the idea of a debate. They each had some weak points and some good points. The personal jabs at each other took away from the quality. The moderator did a great job of keeping it civil and ensuring the audience followed the rules of the debate too. We need more of this respectful debate so that some listening is done too. A hot topic indeed.
The argument she presented has no foundation and at best apocryphal.
@@TAHYA_ALJAZAIR elaborate
@@negao360 Ask specific questions and I will do my best. Identify yourself as I do, it helps mankind to know who they talk, write and argue with. So please elaborate on your elaborate and be specific.
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Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
***/////////////////are all prophets according to the Quran/////////////////***
@@negao360 well for one she has no understanding about shariah! she doesn't understand what Islam is and who Muslims are - Her understanding of shariah is so wrong its funny!
I’m with Maryam Namazie. I admired her.
Tnx...bai
End of Europe
Next generation kids can learn once upon a time there was a continent called Europe
Lol
@@pmassumi "This power had the influence to persecute with the law those who fought against them (law against "islamophobia"). The mohammmedians declared war on us. And the more this war spreads, the more "islamophobia" will spread. I've always defended the view that there are no stupider people than the mohammedians, neither there is a more unprincipled or unscrupulous. These mohammedians used to laugh about it. They thought it was a joke. They are not laughing anymore..." ua-cam.com/video/KSF_J8O2Txo/v-deo.html
@@antoniogutierrez5344thanks for sharing but sadly, the link you share is not permitted to watch in our country.
If european people will not learn lessons from history of India they will suffer a lot, their next generation will suffer like Indian generations are suffering today
meow meow It's ok though, Deutschland Becomes Allahland, France becomes arabiance, Italy becomes it-Ali, England Disappears ✌️ Scotland Claims Independence, Ulster Goes back to Ireland and stays United while immigrant Loyalists get deported to Siberia. Spain becomes Basque Land aka MosqueLand while the Vatican is ruled by the Meccan annnnnd the rest will work itself out 👍 Long term consequences of Muslim Population Growing include, Russia Suicide Nukes themselves... Donald Trump unites North and South Korea then invades United Korea adding another state to the US, which will eventually result in becoming but (Not Limited Too!) A Nuclear Testing Sight inhabited by Democrats.
Best example in india kashmir pandit
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There is an undeniable responsibility, that each and every world leaders is endowed with when in power, regardless of ideology, of personal belief, or the religious tradition with which they are, and have been immersed. Being reminded of the fragility of human nature when given power, seems to be a primary aspect that is constantly denied in our modernist assumptions, as we assume that human reason would not permit us to stoop to controlling citizens without it. Sadly there is, as this debate clearly illustrates, that words and definitions of words/concepts are vital in our communications between each other. Education is of course a necessary adjunct to this as was also noted, but this too needs qualifying as education is so closely tied to politics, to culture, and ideology and how we as an individual attempts to interpret according to our own personal truth concept. How is it possible for one person to have all the truth, if humanity is in fact a thing? Each person it seems submits a miniscule something to humanity and regardless of how big or small, grand or modest, is of gigantic importance. When that importance is sidelined by someone else (either in power or not) any human being reacts, regardless of belief system.
Accept that hatred exists. Preach no hatred but accept the fact that hatred does exist.
Excellent work is being done by Oxford Union, please keep it up!
This aged well - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan ; "In November 2017, Tariq Ramadan took leave of absence from Oxford to contest allegations of rape and sexual misconduct.[10] The university's statement noted that an "agreed leave of absence implies no acceptance or presumption of guilt".[4] In February 2018, he was formally charged with raping two women: a disabled woman in 2009 and a feminist activist in 2012.[11][12] In September 2019, the French authorities have expanded the investigation against Ramadan, already charged with raping two women, to include evidence from two more alleged victims.[13] On 5 December 2019, a Swiss woman who had accused him of rape in 2018, launched a new case against him for slander.[14] In February 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping two more women[15] and in October 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping a fifth woman.[16]"
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This is the Islamic culture representative 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
@@eduardofangueiro4066 This is the most important comment here!
@@eduardofangueiro4066 fantastic debate... A clear eye opener in terms of human rights, free speech and respecting sensitivities of others.. Absolutely interesting indeed.. Kudos to Oxford 👍👍👍👏👏👏
Pp
I am a Muslim Bosnian. My ancestors have been living in Europe for thousands of years. Most European Muslims are ethnic Europeans living in Southern and Eastern Europe; not Middle Eastern refugees.
Still converted trash
Madson Barbosa fucking deluded pal 😀
AnishWaT it’s never to late to change
Rasima Čorbadžić
Assalamualaikum.
Alhamdulillah I'm Muslim and proud 💜. I living Asia in Bangladesh.
Chouchou Ccc get a grip fool
damn, i wanted him to say nononono my minute! when they started clapping
Shallow conversation! It was personal attack rather than a critical debate. The lady addressed good points but in not understandable way. One legit question from the guy could be “do you believe in political islam?”
Why was Prof Ramadan allowed to subvert the clearly defined (1:30) structure of this debate, by directly asking questions of the other speaker ?
Cus he's a cool dude, unlike you . He completely and utterly destroyed her with that chess debate kung fu move while subverting your sacred british structure of debate with a real conversation. She made a fool of her cowardly self choosing not to answer such an incredibly direct question hoping it will just go away, a master stroke indeed.
@Catherine Stonestreet Give us an example then. Just asserting shit without reason is no argument.
I'm happy that I'm Christian 😊
I’m happy for you if you follow real Christianity the first scripture then I’m proud of you. Because Old Testaments said Jesus is the prophet and believe in one God only.
@@gulkhan-dg3do Old Testament says Jesus is God Psalm 2, Daniel 7:13-15 that is real Christianity. Because Jesus and the Apostles quoted the Old Testament many times showing they werent making things up but it was taught before Jesus came.
Biblical Christianity no where in the Bible is there a belief in the trinity that Christians belief. This was a development doctrine made by the church in the 4th century. Jesus was just a prophet and the father is the ONLY true god confirmed in John 17:3. Unfortunately today Christians have diverted from Jesus true teachings and are followers of Paul
@@rak7968 You know I can give you quotes by Christians who knew the Apostles who taught the Trinity who lived around 100 AD BEFORE 4th century?
I will give you passages from Scripture on the teaching of the Trinity.
I'm Muslim and I'm better Christian than you... I'm following Christianity and my master my messenger of Almighty GoD better then you and I'm so happy...
Why would anyone in their right mind want to be a Muslim anyway? I don't get it????
Muslims are mostly born into it. People who converted to Islam either believe in the Quran or are forced into it with brainwashing or marriage.
Personally if everything is depicted as the same in the Quran and is reflected in any Muslims dominated countries or societies, the majority of the people could be Muslims. But no its quite the opposite, Islam and Muslims are two entirely different things as to what the Quran teaches and what these 'Muslims' practices.
You know how to get it ? Learning .. cures all curiosity and ( they are others ) mentality .. read the Quran listen to stories of the prophet for the sake of learning only and see where it goes
Hate it when people read from paper in public debates. 😲
Heavy guy. Not smart. Kept attacking the lady and not answering questions.
Sara Torres ?
Absolutely a lie, Tariq Ramadan never attacked The anti Islam lady of hate but Her idea of none scene, lol
The declarations made on 9 August 2002 by Sheikh Omar Bakri founder of the Islamic Religious Court in London and head of the Islamic al-Muhajiroun organization: "We will transform the West into Dar Al-Islam [that is, a region under Islamic rule] through outside invasions. If an Islamic State arises and invades [the West] we will be its army and its soldiers from within. If not, we will invade the West through ideological invasions from within, without war and killings. Either they receive our preaching [of Islam], or we will live among them and they will be influenced by us and will accept Islam as a political solution to their problems, and not as an ideological solution. ... They [the West] have imposed human laws on us, and the [future] Islamic regime will impose Islamic religious laws on them. Muslims will act of their own accord, and all those who are not Muslims will be obliged to do so through the [Islamic] law ".
Many Muslim leaders and believers deny or minimize violence.
"Kill the unbelievers [ie, anyone who is not Muslim] wherever you meet them. This is the reward of the unbelievers " - (Sura 2: 191)
- "War is prescribed, even if you don't like it" - (Sura 2: 216) -
(From New Testament)
Ephesians 5:11, NIV: "Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them."
She based it too much on emotion and victimisation 🙄
I am tired of his answering questions by attacking the woman’s statement. I am still waiting to learn his position.
His position is to defend the world domination of Islam without saying Islams goal is to dominate the world.
And he is a professional liar. Islam started with one guy and a delusion in a cave, now they have 50 countries. Now they are filling Europe and north America, the goal is obvious to continue the take over of the world.
@@brianjones8006 Don't take my word but try and understand this world is an exam for equality and for unity.
Letter to the Reverend Ensor Walters (1933), as quoted in Bernard Shaw : Collected Letters, 1926-1950 (1988) by Dan H. Laurence, p. 305
” I have always held the religion of Mohammed in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality.
It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capability to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age.
The world must doubtless attach high value to the predictions of great men like me.
I have prophesied about the faith of Mohammed that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.
The medieval ecclesiastics, either through ignorance or bigotry, painted Mohammedanism in the darkest colors.
They were in fact trained both to hate the man Mohammed and his religion.
To them Mohammed was Anti-Christ. I have studied him - the wonderful man, and in my opinion far from being an Anti-Christ he must be called the Savior of Humanity.
I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much-needed peace and happiness.
But to proceed, it was in the 19th century that honest thinkers like Carlyle, Goethe and Gibbon perceived intrinsic worth in the religion of Mohammed, and thus there were some change for the better in the European attitude towards Islam.
But the Europe of the present century is far advanced.
It is beginning to be enamored of the creed of Mohammed.
I believe that if today an autocrat of Mohammed’s caliber assumes world leadership, he could solve all problems of humanity splendidly.
The world will become an abode of peace and happiness.
I predict that tomorrow’s Europe will embrace Islam.”
(End of Sir Bernard Shaw’s letter)
@@Musta8787 Like all religions they start with one man and what he thinks and or believes. He then convinces others to believe in what he believes and or made up, then it grows. So where is the reality in this system of belief and convincing others in a belief ? Religion was a way to explain our existence and that has become obvious for a long time to those of us that can think independently. As many cultures have created their own religion that helps them understand their existence this is evidenced by examining each religion and how it correlates to the culture that developed it. Mohammad created his to suit him and his wants. In reality like all religions they are not backed with tangible facts. Only belief what someone else said, this is not factual its made up stories full of fantasy. Islam was started by a mentally deranged violent murderer that was smart enough to start his own religion that benefited him. Now Islam runs 50 countries and its goal is to own the earth. What ever or who ever gets in its way will be destroyed and you think that is OK ? that only makes you as sick as Mohammad. The sickness that is Islam will be fully revealed to the world soon and it will be crushed never to rise again. This will happen or Islam will rule the world, but first you will have to kill billions of well armed people, good luck. The real sick thing is you will try.
@@brianjones8006 I think you never even studied about the religion of Islam, all you have is a subjective emotional view about God in general. Islam came from the first human being, named Adam. Muslim literally means submission to God. Muhammad PBUH came to correct all the previous misunderstanding and misinterpretation of others trying to dictate the word of God according to their own political agenda before him ie Jesus Moses Abraham. Let's say for your sake Quran is false, Muhammad PBUH was deranged and God is just imaginary. What is your foundation of morality? What is your foundation of reason? If all those are just a part and partial of survival of the fittest then we all have no meaning in life and life after death is only wishful thinking, meaning we just live to survive? Kill to survive? Rob to survive? What is your morality stance on life? What do you base your logic? Books of speculations like Darwinism? Do you really think we all evolved from a lesser being? Do you deep down actually believe that? We all have this innate ability to think there is a creator or designer for everything on earth, phones, cars, machines, so when it comes to nature you spin it around according to your dismissal of the same line of reasoning? You question God? The creator of everything? We all don't live selfishly according to our whims and pleasures. We live to help others as well, that's why we all pay for the hospitals, emergency agencies and less fortunate. We are not the final product of evolution or even this earth isn't the final destination. There's a whole lot we need to discover but we yet only know 00.001% of the universe. Even one of our cells in our bodies have many information than you and I could ever think of. Then why do you dismiss the design? Why do you reject God for your own illogical view of life?
This debate may build or destroy
Good Debate
Islamophobia is my default and instinctive position!
I call it "self defense!"
Thats sad
I am Muslim i respect other people believes like Christians, they are my workmates.
Anglophbic one word.
The loss of humanity in ww1, ww2, can you define
It will be cool if you know Islam a little bit minimum read the qur'an first. If u still Islamophobia, it's yours.
It's a form of manipulation in debate and discussion to accuse the other person of emotionalism instead of responding to what they said.
@ALLAH thePIMP Marion• so what good is it to insult and libel others.
If you have a point, you can make it without insults.
But ok...go on make insulting a necessary norm. Beginning with your family.
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She (lady in video) says... ideas are not scared but humans are. So why is she irritated by "don't insult"?
She can't, no one can ever insult an idea. Ideas are not conscious beings. You can only challenge ideas.
You can not challenge humans, you can only insult them. But you can challenge their ideas. And no one objects to That. May be you have something better to say than us. But insulting someone's ideas for mere enjoyment can't be controlled and banned. So enjoy insulting others.
*_It takes a good mind and heart,_* *_courage and patience to talk a_* *_pure speech._*
A Hard hearted person can not afford these things.
So enjoy insulting.
We will not insult you back and killing is out of question. God ordered us to be patient when insulted.
Then how long will you live ! One day it will be we , you and God. That day no one's group and community will stand with him/her. You will be alone, responsible for your decisions, answering before God.
( the beginning of our existence) *_God created you (humans)_* *_from earth, like a vegetable __*_ *_growth._*(Quran , see chapter called NOAH) VERSE 17.
*_He will create us again for_* *_judgement_*
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Jesus is depicted as a white man with blue eyes. The prohet mohammad a person with fair skin colour is depicted as brown; i wonder why this is?
@@justsain3236 your point?
Islamic scholar Tariq Ramadan has been charged with raping two women besides two others he was already facing accusations over.
Well to be fair, she outright refused to answer his questions
No subtitle for deaf person? Are you serious
assalamualaikum from Malaysia.
Tariq Ramadam is a professional 'smoke screen' artist!
Who is currently in Jail for rape after multiple accusations which even includes family members.
Jon Taylor
Muslims that live by and support Islams Sharia law and migrate into Christian Countries have hidden agendas. They're seeking to enforce Sharia Law onto the Host Country. Cities, States, and Countries need to pass laws to stop the imposition. The gentleman speaks eloquent words; he knows their goal is to dominate by Sharia Law.
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Jon Taylor, totally agree, he is in one moment utterly charming wooing the audience, the next moment he is bullying and oppressing her. He clearly uses his beauty to control people by distracting her and others in being overtly animated while she was speaking. She obviously is still very affected by male dominance and he very clearly used that to bully her.
It was a far more interesting debate from that perspective, from a socio psychological perspective than from any of the content or unanswered questions
@@gillisleighola I see it more the way of him covering up the glaring shortfalls in Islam - the religion of War than from the feminist angle you see. Islam just cannot stand up to scrutiny - although ALL 3 of the Abrahamic religions fail miserably in this domain - BUT particularly Islam! I'm still utterly baffled why we are expected to allow this totalitarian doctrine on board at all! The track record of it screams *WARNING* to me & many others + OUR illustrious leaders in the past think/thought the same! I have a feeling of impending doom these days - especially when I hear/read that analysts predict the birth rate demographics - which I cannot believe genuine people of this country are happy to acknowledge - of this religion will see a Muslim majority within 30 years! Hence why the names Mohammed (+ the various incarnations of that name!) & Aisha are now the top names for babies in the UK! The problems associated with this religion are ENORMOUS & they' make NO bones about what their mission is:to control the World! Ask ANY devout Muslim what the order of things are & you will get:1) Allah 2) Mohammed 3) Sharia Law 4) Quran & Hadiths......then finally they acknowledge 5) UK Law & Sovereignty. I have seen the like of 'ol Tariq time & again in debates - it's a classic stance from proponents of Islam to throw up as many balls in the air as possible to cloud arguments & divert away attention from fundamentally weak responses to basic questions! This so called 'faith' has NO back bone & cannot even tolerate a joke or a cartoon without resorting to violence - that in itself should be more than enough of a WARNING that what WE face hear ultimately will undermine our society if we continue to allow it to flourish!
the woman is very good.
I support her
Knowlege is powerful, but lack of is disease.
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Are you sick with it ?
@Eslam Saber
She's not hating anybody !
You want to see hate, look at your guy talk to the white British lady in the audience ... the way he said "they are at home"... 😠
*Britain is HER home* ... and he's a bloody guest there ... albeit an ungrateful one !! Right ?
... do you care about and for the truth ... or just self interest and opinion ?
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Have someone can translate to malay language ...tq
My personal:
On the Second question,the Guy was telling her that she is on the emotional ground,and i feel,he is forgetting everything about his point an ideas need to present,however trying blame game,one may put what if the debate was in the market place!!. I mean,showing of what she have just said about.