@ryan4305 I completely agree but you missed the point of my argument. The issue is that the term (islamaphobia) is more often than not associated with race. Even in 2011 the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) began defining islamaphobia as a form of racism. Every Muslim association and even the Arab League state that"Islam is not a race", but Islamophobia is racism. Which doesn't make any freaking sense. It's like saying "Christianity is not a race", but Christophobia is racism.
mackjeez What i don't understand is why so many people makes a huge deal about it. You're correct racism isn't the right term to describe islamophobia but you understood the point he wanted to make, so why don't you just add it to the long list of commonly misused words ?
ryan4305 Well, the issue is that it's a pretty big word to be misused, especially in modern western society. Imagine Christians using Christophobia the same way Islam is using Islamophobia. A journalist, celebrity, actor...etc.. can literately bash Christians and Christianity to their heart's content without repercussions. By acknowledging that any criticizing of Islam is considered Islamophobic (racist), you are creating a scenario where in western society, you cannot under any circumstance criticize the religion or it's actions. It's bad enough people died by drawing a cartoon of their prophet, but soon we won't even be able to state the obvious problems of Islam without being called a bigot, racist or even worse, be persecuted for our opinions. This "misused word" shouldn't even exist let alone be associated with something like racism.
@@markjayd8704 that may be possible but in europe we arent pushing people of buildings for being homosexuals we arent saying abusing women is ok, we arent radicalising our youth
@@maximus8574 Its islamabad, its the capital, dude! go check the human development index of islamabad. If you are ranked so high in hdi, health, security, education, freedom of expression etc Then how do you imagine shaming homosexuality or youths radicalization is even possible. Don't believe in what anyone say to you. you should go there and find by and for yourself!
hi the term racism is used to define discrimination of both race and creed to be honest. the only other terms more accurate would be islamophobic or 'religist'
+faction52 Rubbish. A creed is not race either. Stop making stuff up. A religion is not a race, you can change your religion but not your race. A religion is a set of ideas, bad ones most of the time.
+Julie Paterson i know of course a creed is not a race but the term racism has been used to describe the literal race discrimination and also more broadly for religious descrimination. its just the word thay is used. it would be more accurate to say religist but i dont think that has come into the oxford dictionary just yet
+Al Cubz well any religious state christian or muslim may be considered discriminatory as their head of state has to be of a certain religion. this is the world we live in
Being obsessed with one's rights is very arrogant? This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He just doesnt understand human rights in their purest form. It's scary listening to him get applause.
Sir . Lebanon was a Christian country few years back now it was a Muslim country. Turkey was a ruled by a Christian leader and now a it was a muslim country ther number will be small but it will multiply in big number why they are traveling 4000 kilometers to Europe ,when they have rich neighbourhood countries like Saudi Dubai oman Qatar omen that they can share same language and culture that can mingle with them.
Boronchi Pradeep how did Islam reach Indonesia and Asia when no Islam Empire in history has ever stretch into Indonesia or China where mosques are being burnt down by the government as we speak. Look in your history books. Even the Mughals never got that far or had the technology to introduce the beautiful qualities Islam has within its way of life. Explain that. Indonesia a land of islands and indigenous people have been presented Islam by who? I’ll answer that. The Quran reached them. Not people. They read it and understood it. Didn’t spread through war or conquer.
Aly Mohammed I just speak with truth and I observe what is presented with open eyes and without doubt. As long as your curious and like Allah said “do you not ponder?” I just want to be the person with the answers to your questions.
this guy is literally contradicting what he says 5 mins before and is interrupting her. He is quite clearly, as the lady mentioned with his view on gender segregation, a misogynist.
In Europe difference by looks, accent and especially behavior provokes prejudice from majority, yes. But very seldom a death or incarceration or even public beating.
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@@Hannestv4607 you are one of those that Jesus speek of you words that Jesus describe you as fool wicked adulterer that's how Jesus call someone like you your bible says so
Being a Christian for all my generations I would never imagined that one day people would come up with something called defending their right to insult a religion.
@@suma6881 jesus is a god, the people who said he was their prophet lost their caliphate now, we expose a child rapist with the best cartoons and people are raging because they think they are the victims of muhamed cartoons... alla has slaves, if you mock alla for being needy, you do not insult a religion
Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim Allah said in the Qur'an Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were 'once' one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing, Will they not then believe? And We have placed firm mountains upon the earth so it does not shake with them, and made in it broad pathways so they may find their way. And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy, still they turn away from its signs. And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon- each traveling in an orbit. We have not granted immortality to any human before you ' O Prophet', so if you die, will they live forever? Every soul will taste death, And We test you 'O humanity' with good and evil as a trial, then to Us you will 'all' be returned. [ Qur'an 21: 30-35 ]
@@straightpath3626 scientists know that there are no heavens, Ptolemy was wrong anyone who rejects the prophets and the bible is a disbeliever, and hell is their destiny ps your man made quran is corrupt and pagan
@@worfoz Congratulation to you for attacking Islam impatiently. We know your disease in the deep of your heart. Only Allah's will one could know about Islam otherwise not. Allah hate arrogant people who compare any of His creation with Him.
This aged well - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan ; "In November 2017, Tariq Ramadan took leave of absence from Oxford to contest allegations of rape and sexual misconduct.[10] The university's statement noted that an "agreed leave of absence implies no acceptance or presumption of guilt".[4] In February 2018, he was formally charged with raping two women: a disabled woman in 2009 and a feminist activist in 2012.[11][12] In September 2019, the French authorities have expanded the investigation against Ramadan, already charged with raping two women, to include evidence from two more alleged victims.[13] On 5 December 2019, a Swiss woman who had accused him of rape in 2018, launched a new case against him for slander.[14] In February 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping two more women[15] and in October 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping a fifth woman.[16]"
Allaah is the creator of everything earth and sky and everything in universe and above you your belief and us our believe your choice leave us alone we pray for your guidance we love Our creator.we worship one All mighty ALLAAH THAT IS IT ACCEPT OR REJECT YOUR PROBLEM.MAY YOU RECEIVE GUIDANCE.WE WILLNEVER INSULT ANY RELIGION NOR ANY PROPHET OF ALLAAH WE LOVE AND RESPECT THEM ALL..MAY YOU STOP YOUR HATRED OR JEAULOSY FOR MUSLIMS YOUR OPINION IS NOT IMPORTANT IF YOU ARE PART OF SOCIETY RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE'S BELIEFS WE ARE IN ONE WORLD HELP TO STOP THE WARS AGAINST MUSLIMS STOP THOSE WHO MURDER TORTURE OCCUPY STEAL WEALTH OF POOR COUNTRIES IT IS DISGUSTING ILLEGAL SHAMEFUL .STOP EVIL THAT IS A MUCH BETTER WAY FOR YOU MUSLIM OR NOT WE ARE ALL CREATURES OF THE SAME KIND SPEAK GOOD OF EACH OTHER ISLAAM IS NOT AN IDEA IT IS A WAY OF LIFE.WE BELIEVE IN ALLAAH AND FOLLOW OUR BELOVED PROPHET PEACE BE UPON HIM. HE IS THE SEAL OF THE PROPHETS NO MORE MESSENGERS.AFTER HIM WE ARE THE LAST OF CREATION.END OF TIME WILL COME SOONER OR LATER.ISLAAM WILL SURVIVE..YOU AND NO ONE CAN AND WILL STOP ISLAAM NO EVIL GOVERNMRNTS WILL EVER SUCCEED LONG LIVE MUSLIMS LONG LIVE ISLAAM LONG LIVE JUSTICE AND PEACE .WE PRAY FOR LOVE AND PEACE AND TO LIVE SIDE BY SIDE IN PEACE.AND HARMONY WE LOVE ALL CREATION OF ALLAAH WE FEAR NO ONE BUT ALLAAH WE ARE NOR AFRAID OF ANY ONE BUT ALLAAH.THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.LETS STOP ALL KILLINGS AND STEALING OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES .OUR EXISTANCE.AND OUR DIGNITY..THIS WORLD NOW NEED NEW JUST LEADERS.AND STOP THIS GLOBALISATION EXPROPIATION.AND JUGLE AND PAGANISM IS GONE FROM THIS WORLD IT CAN'T COME BACK IT IS FINISH WE AS WOMAN SHOULD APPRECIATE OUR LAWS IN QURAAN OUR CHAPTERS IN QURAAN WHICH PROTECTS ALL WOMEN IN THIS WORLD WE ARE FAVOURED ABOVE ALL WE ARE GRATEFUL.TO THE QURAAN AND PRAY TO BE BENIFICIAL . TO ALL WOMAN AND MEN WE HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER WITH LOVE AND RESPECT.ISLAAM IS FOR ALL
@@lizzmiirad7903 and please please don't tell me that it's because it's immature when the question is based off the fact that you do indeed justify it...
Honestly in every meaningful society there is right to freedom of expression, but it should be used with respect for humanity. So please don't allow political selfish interest to blindfold the TRUTH.
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That's a strawman. Neither debater promoted such a thing! Dr Ramadan was stridently clear in his support for free speech even against Islam, while the woman seemed concerned only with the freedom to lampoon Islam.
@Catherine Stonestreet Saudi Arabia, Iran, Oman and some other Muslim countries forbid alcohol consumption and punish violators by whipping. Except if you're Christian. In that case they allow it, although perhaps not in public. That seems very lenient to me when I think about laws regarding alcohol and drugs in the west.
@Catherine Stonestreet Your argument against the statement "you have no right to say something that kills me inside" is to tell that person to go back where they came from or to assimilate if they want to stay whatever you live. But is that really the right response? There's nothing in the statement that identifies the person as a foreigner and the statement itself doesn't strike me as really controversial. There are many examples of things we forbid each other to say, certainly in public, because it hurts people, because "it kills them inside". I should say because it kills *us* inside, though. We now say "the N word" when that word was once commonplace. And there are some things you can say that US courts have deemed "fighting words" and saying them akin to a physical assault. Who wants the right to say something so hurtful it kills someone else inside anyway? Or what could anyone have to say that is so important it requires being permitted to be so hurtful to someone else. Maybe there is something but I can't think of what it might be. I hope you reconsider the question. I think it's what you would want that other person to do regarding you and your feelings.
Catherine Stonestreet mother Mary wore exactly that your bible says you should cover your head then how is it wrong to practice that I think you should too
@Catherine Stonestreet Like I said, you're welcome to laugh at my clothes but it's not right you expect me to wear a burka. Please try to pay attention. Now, back to your request: how am I supposed to blow you, you being a woman? I'll be honest, it's a weird request, but, no judgements here! Whatever gets you off. You want me to wear a burka? Let's both wear burkas!
Fruits of crusides ? Or the frutis of Temple knight ? Or the fruits of colonization ? Or the fruit of destroying Iraq, Afgahnistan , libea .... ? The fruits of Hiroshema? WW1 /WW2 ? Inded By their fruits shall we know them !!! AMEN !!
Wow. Ms. Namazie (please forgive me if I got that wrong) was awesome. She was articulate, educated, truthful and insightful. It’s even more impressive that she didn’t fall into the philosophical and semantic traps this gentleman attempted to throw at her. Hands down she was the winner of this debate!
if you steal, kill or do other kind of crime you will be banned from arabia. so i think u are just dumb and a criminal who thinks this kind of crimes are right. so do your research or shut up you internet warrior.
I *have* to be free to have the toughts that I have. And I *have* to be free to speak them, as much as I want. This is the freedom I want, because it's the *duty* that I have to myself and to others.
You have a right to your freedom but you have the right to respect others or stay away from them and also you have the right to obedience because with all your rights at your own place can't be replicated to other people or other places if they are in line with your self needed freedom.
@@abrahamjatta1676, you have no idea what freedom of speech is. What does 'right of obedience' mean, what are you talking about? Obedience, is it a right or is it a duty? You seem to be confused. If you don't agree with my freedom of speech, you are free to go. And, if I agree with that, you are free to refute my arguments. That's the freedom that you have (and that I have). 'Right to obedience'??? Obedience to whom? To you, to muslims? You are wrong, man! This is a free world, not even God forces you to obey Him; let alone men can force you. You have a long road to go in learning what 'freedom' means...!
@@victorrodrigues5448 everyone is obedient to something Your obedient to your view of freedom we our But as far as I see nowadays freedom means disrespecting others belief Ones freedom clashing with others World going down in hell
It depends what thoughts you have. Harmful thoughts is not logic to share and double standard thoughts has to be explained individually as it depends on the mental value of that individual.
Cus he's a cool dude, unlike you . He completely and utterly destroyed her with that chess debate kung fu move while subverting your sacred british structure of debate with a real conversation. She made a fool of her cowardly self choosing not to answer such an incredibly direct question hoping it will just go away, a master stroke indeed.
Charle Abdou and all world attacks is 100% made by intelligence to make ppl hate Islam and Muslims so they go vote for racist parties like marine lepen and SD
never said a truer words.. politics focus on more for world than afterlife thats why they willingly to do anything to get everything in the world before dying..
The lady taking part in this debate spoke with deep subject knowledge. There was little or no fat on her words, delivered with authority, conviction and utter clarity
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Taking a little part of something, whether it's from a song or from a religion, to justify your own small mindedness and to trick other people into liking you.. I see a lot of that nowadays.
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does someone explain this curiosity in Islam to me? If Allah is not YHWH! **The word God (Allah, El , ELohim,.......) is just a title !! YHWH is the proper name of the 1 true God!** Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ALLAH IS YHWH*** Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY GOD IS YHWH*** Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ELOHIM IS YHWH*** Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY EL IS YHWH***
@@ashirgujjar4092 You are free to say Christianity was hidden power to destroy the peace they are free to act like sinner theirs beliefs all are sinners accept the sin then what is need to do for good deeds the loss of humanity around the world the experiment of arms in nagasaki hirosima but not in Christian country
This was interesting... I learned a few things which is the idea of a debate. They each had some weak points and some good points. The personal jabs at each other took away from the quality. The moderator did a great job of keeping it civil and ensuring the audience followed the rules of the debate too. We need more of this respectful debate so that some listening is done too. A hot topic indeed.
@@negao360 Ask specific questions and I will do my best. Identify yourself as I do, it helps mankind to know who they talk, write and argue with. So please elaborate on your elaborate and be specific.
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@@negao360 well for one she has no understanding about shariah! she doesn't understand what Islam is and who Muslims are - Her understanding of shariah is so wrong its funny!
It's a thing you know. Unlike christianity where you cant question anything and atheism who just ask unnecessary questions, we muslims are allowed to ask questions and to have doubts. Faith in Islam is strengthened by doubt and asking questions. Why do you think muslims have so many scholars?
@@ahmadabdullateef3386 I have a few questions: 1. Which kind of god give the rules like that quran 4/34: "...beat your women...", 47/4: "...who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them...", 5/33: "....The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land..." 2. quran and allah did not end slavery! He forbid pork in one verse, but he did not send a single verse without other options for ending slavery. Which kind of god did not end slavery? 3. What is the definition of pedophilia? Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine. Reference:Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255 In-book reference : Book 26, Hadith 60 English translation : Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 325
@@charleskittelp.1125 Quran 4:34. Only applies to women who abuse their rights and by extension their husbands. Explicitly stated you can't cause harm, can't hit the face can't leave a mark. Its not beating then is it? And secondly quote who dam verse. Quran 4:74 "So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds." Its a war verse. Really don't see the problem here. Quran 5:33. Again its a war verse. What do you expect them to do, hand them roses? 2. There are multiple verses in the Quran whereby slaves are freed to forgive sins, slaves are allowed to buy their freedom etc. Not one verse condones slavery so yes it came to end slavery, without going through a bloody civil war. 3. Lets say he did. And? Consider these things (or don't): She was previously engaged to another She was fully aware and knows what she agreed to For over 1200 nobody made an issue about their marriage until 1905, what where you guys doing in that time? Sleeping? Its obvious it wasn't an issue and thus was not paedophilia at all for 1200 years unless your ready to condemn your ancestors of paedophilia as well?
@@ahmadabdullateef3386 I didn't ask you what is the interpratetion of verses, what kind of god says that things? 1.The verse (4:34) does not contain your explanations and it is unclear what you make these explanations. What kind of god wants believers and non-believers to fight for himself or for his command? Frankly, I would expect a god not to care for him or her to be believed. You send orders to a society and society does not want to give up their beliefs, then you bring these people across and send war orders! If there is such a thing happen today, what is said to the man who says these orders? What is the place of war (beheading, cut the 5:22 hands and feet on alternate sides cut off...) based on belief in orders that send messages to humanity? Will we act with these rules accordingly in 2100? 2. Many options are offered instead of releasing! As I said, it directly prohibits pork but contradictively, an order from God does not prohibit slavery. 3. Are you a psychopath? We live in 2020, you say where was your mind until 1905! What you say is really pathetic arguments. If our ancestors are cannibals, should we be like that right now? If we look at what you say, we must live in this century according to the rules of the seventh century!
@@SMShah-nc6rv only anyone of these 180 karore ppl got any brain then they can verify, Muslims got kuran and alah, so they they don't need brain, alah have given to them all the instructions in the kuran.
@@SMShah-nc6rv kuran only religious book o have not read, i have learned a lot about kuran by observing how Muslims behaviour around the world, alah is biggest dictator on the planets, i have a glass of water in front of me,. get alah to drink this glass of water, i promise to change my religion and become a devoted Muslim right now, put up or shut up.
@@SMShah-nc6rv your alah have declared that im a kafir, according kuran i have to be converted by persuasion, by threats if i was living few hundred years back in history my head would have been chopped of me being a free thinking person, tell me who were your ancestors before they converted in to islam?
A live face-to-face debate is always good to watch, both educational and entertaining. Probably the only thing missing was no final vote on a winner. Would be really precious if they could repeat it now, after 7 October 2023 (if that's at all possible if one is under investigation on rape charges).
Why do you label yourself an ex-muslim? What a ridiculous question. It's for the same (or at least similar) reasons that trans people label themselves trans, or people who are ex-army are often given the title of veteran. It's because these changes have had major influence on their life and it gives you an insight how/why their insight has changed. Another reason is that certain minorities are often stigmatised (gay people, trans people, or in this case ex-muslims) and so to speak out and to be counted for helps to remove stigmas and promote acceptance. That's why people should be applauding for coming as gay/ex-muslim, it takes courage and in the long it helps promote acceptance of gay/ex-muslim people.
12:40 I'm from Bangladesh and Ajivit Roy was also writing against government censorship and imprisonment of bloggers for writing against the government. He was killed in the Ekushe Book Fair by a terrorist group(which nobody supports) and we mourned for him
@Muhammad Menal Nope Us Bangladeshi Atheists criticise all religions. It's just that islam is much more prevalent in our Bangladeshi society so we talk about It's dark sides more.We have nothing agaisnt muslim people just the religion itself. Bhalo thaken bhai.
@Muhammad Menal So the most obvious consequence is being hacked to death? Do you see the problem with our society? I am anti religion too, should I be hacked to death too if I become public? Is this your perfect islamic society? Shameful.
@Muhammad Menal So criticising Islam.Its lack of freedom of speech, sexism and homophobia is islamophobia. Killing and punishing anyone who doesn’t agree with you.Is this the religion you truely want to follow?
Sahih al-Bukhari 6922 "Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to `Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn `Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"[12]
@Muhammad Menal Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255 "It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine
No matter what is said by someone about any religion. Everyone believes what one sees around the world. People should practice what they preach. One should show preaching in action not in words... Truth always prevails...
You know what goes around from media and your Anti-Muslim channels that give you a certain perspective. Travel to those countries, speak to the people and you'll see that the world isn't really that black and yellow
People in USA ore europe think muslims live to become terroriste. NO PEOPLE we have the same normal life as the world. But no when it cames to islam they all say bad things, and one think i have nothing with our comment but if a persone who is bad and has a religion being muslim, christian ore other religion am i suposed to hate every one who is of that religion? No
**////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////*** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- **"YHWH SAVES "* Elijah means------------- --------------**" MY GOD IS YHWH"** John means ----------------------------**" YHWH has been gracious""** Zakariya means -----------------------**""YHWH has remembered""** are all prophets according to the Quran
This type of FORUM is a welcome decision to enlighten the public on their religions. I thank Allah SWT for giving us this chance to understand the right thing to follow and the wrong thing to throw away.
Muhammad was a white racist and sexist Sahih al-Bukhari Book 3 Hadith 63 -Narrated Anas bin Malik: While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The an then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib." The Prophet said, "I am here to answer your questions." Sahih Muslim 6081 - “It was narrated that Abu Juhaifah said: ‘I saw the Messenger of Allah with a white complexion and some white hairs.’ Sahih Muslim 6071 - “It was narrated from Al-Jurairi from Abu At-Tufail…he was white with an elegant face.’ “…the whiteness of his cheeks.” 4:1208 Sunan abu dawud- 3:1002 The Muslim sources even go out of their way to remind us how white Muhammad was. They frequently reference the whiteness of his various body parts-something that was not mentioned about any other prophet, from Abraham to Zachariah. Find the following in sahih albukari “The whiteness of his shins.” 1:8:367 “…the whiteness of the thigh of Allah’s Prophet.” 8:3325 “…the whiteness of his leg.” 456:7:67 “…the whiteness of his stomach.” 9:90:342 “…the whiteness of his armpits.” 8:78:631 Find in sunan abu dawud “…the whiteness of the forearms.” 20:3200 *WHITE MUHAMMAD OWNED BLACK SLAVES* Sahih Al bukhari- 7263,6161 Black slave shot to death while holding Muhammad's luggage- 3858 So mubammad had sex with a 9year old girl, robbed caravans, beheaded hundreds of Jews (he is okay)- but this black man grabbed cloak before spoils were divided so he is going to hell Provisions of the Afterlife Which Lie Within Prophetic Guidance (By Ibn Qayyim Al-jawziya) list 28 of the slaves muhammad owned. Named a woman "ship" in arabic because he loaded her like a ship to carry his things. Muhammad had sex with his slaves- ibn ishaq page.653 (i guess thats only creepy when thomas jefferson does it) *he called black people "raisin heads" sahih albukari- 7142 A woman may never be a leader because their mind is deficient of a man, and since oprah wants to run for prez and she is black. Guess muhammad disagrees-7099 *MUHAMMAD SAYS SATAN LOOKS LIKE A BLACK MAN* ibn ishaq page 243. If you say muhammad was black. Thats a death penalty. AL SHIFA-Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman page 387 Why are some black people muslim.... they should be some of the last people to become muslim. Muhammad was clearly a false prophet. Muhammad thought he was possesed by a demon.. he was a sinner and couldnt save anyone let alone himself JESUS THE CHRIST HISTORICALLY EXISTED, HE HISTORICALLY CLAIMED HE IS GOD, HISTORICALLY WAS CRUCIFIED FOR DOING SO, HE HISTORICALLY ROSE FROM THE DEAD. If he failed, morality becomes subjective, but guess what he didnt! There is real hope for real Justice from our creator. The day of salvation is today! What do you have to lose but your pride!
Have you researched how your sacred text was put together? Or by whom? I gather that of the some 600,000 writings that were gathered only about 2% were kept and the rest were burnt. This occurred long after his death. One seeking to run everything gathered the writings and he gave them to one man to go through. If Muhammad was a true prophet and the last one what were these two guys? You do not even face in the direction of the gathering place (mecca) that Muhammad went to, searched for his path, and then supposedly found it. Men who come after a person who was supposedly gifted by an entity ALWAYS mess with things. Abdul ..... Malik is the one who picked the guy who burnt 98% of writings about or by your Prophet. Then Malik created the Quran. Muhammad was long dead and neither met him. Petra is the direction the earliest mosques faced. It also fit the physical description of his mecca. The rivers are no longer there but the were. Your mecca was never visited by Muhammad because there was nothing there. No trade routes, no olives, no grapes, no mountains, no farms, not even a creek, let alone two of them. The New Testament, Old Testament, and the Torah have similar problems.
Deebo Nash Actually Arabs generally do not consider themselves “white”. Real Arabs are actually semetic. Hilarious. Anyway, I suggest you read up on the genetics and research about Homo Sapien skin shades. And look at color charts. Especially for varying shades of brown. I stand out when I am in front of a white sheet. My makeup is pale beige to beige depending on how much I am in the sun. Add to that is you and I share the same ancient “mother”. As with ALL our Homo Sapien relatives, the farther from the Equator our people settled the lighter shade of brown they tended to be. How much time spent in sunlight affected it too. Old photos of many indigenous of what is now North America show most as dark brown to “black”. Not red. Same with some of the Japanese and other East Asians. I gather “pale” did not start showing up among the Homo Sapiens of Europe until a measly 14,000 years ago. The source I read said it took about 6,000 years for it to be the dominate shade of brown. This has probably been adjusted since I read about it two years ago. You and I could might be able to trace our genetic markers back to the same tribe in Africa. I gather we evolved from the same rodent that survived a near extinction event. Hi coz’.
@@conniead5206 this is grade Sahih. Ya dumbass how about know that this is from their top scholars not my words. Sahih is as authentic as it gets. Donkey
"Can any Muslim convince me that Koran is the true Word of God? Can anyone tell me the name of the person who died on the cross instead of Jesus? Why He admitted He is the Son of God? Why Allah resurrected Him? Why He didn’t tell the truth to the disciples of Jesus that he is not Jesus but instead commissioned them to preach Jesus’ resurrection to the whole world?"
Tariq Ramadan blames the non-Muslims for not understanding Islam. Fact is that the Muslims themself are the ones with the least understanding of Islam. They are split up in hundreds of sects who often have so much differences that see eachother as unbelievers and murder eachother because of that. So the misunderstanders of Islam are the believers themself. And if they dont understand it, why should others, and why should we listen to Tariq Ramadan who only can give a private meaning?
You know that's actually one of the best comments I've ever read on the complexity of understanding Islam. You're so right. If Muslims can't agree on how to live under Islam the "right" way and condemn each other for their views on the religion, how are the rest of us supposed to understand it. Thank you, I will use this argument next time I find myself in a debate about Islam.
+JandCStevens Maybe this can help you to: The Quran repeatedly claims to be a “clear book” (5.15) “easy to understand” (44.58 , 54.22 , 54.32, 54.40) “explained in detail” (6.114), “conveyed clearly”, (5.16, 10.15) and with “no doubt” in it (2.1). But nevertheless there are many bloody sectarian wars among Muslims going on. All because of disputes about the clear book. Basically the Muslims themself prove these verses wrong!
+Aristotelezz tell me who isn't split, why do you have right wing or left wing, why do you have christian and chatholics why do you have protestant and atheist, your argument is that islam should be only 1 sect? well guess what they don't have it since they lost the ottoman empire, since then had to accept artificial borders(the brits bribed some to rebel), nationalism, and the first world repeating the same wars in those same land and destabalizing with constant regime change. Today you dont have 1 islam but many different islams unless all of these muslims unite. The more you stigmatise them, the more they will get united, what goes around comes around. Instead try maybe to live in peace for the greater good of the humanity, but no, you just a selfish greedy , bastard i wish you would born 100 years ago and live the misery of our grand fathers, today we could achieve so much if we worked together instead of hating each other, and don't blame the muslims because i'm sick of seen uneducated ladz yelling the same sentences about muslim people, these people they are more humble then you, more kind then you,more modest then you and you generalize everyone like a baby
+TheCrowdsOpinion There is not one religion where it's members brags so much about, they say Islam is the only religion, all others are false. But indeed like all other religions Islam is split up in many sects who often make war about it. On that level there is nothing special about Islam. But they have according to their believes very little reason to be split up. The quran repeatedly claims to be a “clear book” (5.15) “easy to understand” (44.58 , 54.22 , 54.32, 54.40) “explained in detail” (6.114), “conveyed clearly”, (5.16, 10.15) and with “no doubt” in it (2.1). You said: "you generalize everyone like a baby". The quran constantly speaks about the Christians, the Jews, the unbelievers, the polytheists. This is a generalisation, they are all the same, and there is not a compliment given. This is the way Muslims are schooled. But in return, if you talk about the Muslims, than you must realise there is no such thing as the Muslim. They are all different. The best way to show how rotten the message of the quran is, is to talk in a quranic way about Muslims. People who normally keep quiet angry stand up in defence of the Muslims, or some Muslims.
Firstly , every single religion claims to be the truth, you might only hear more about muslims because they are active in social media and youtube and so, if you go in africa you have those missionary claiming that they have the only true religion etc, so please stop your ABSURD FALLACY, everyone believes that his set of believe are the true on, but the difference is that we must be ale to listen to each other and make our points why we are different at thats all, respect the person. Then you cite some reference from quran, but you don't add any context, any point of view, any understanding, you just read and traduce it in english that's all you did, and then you claim that muslims have to take the quran word for word, this isn't the case, you have to understand the context and the times we live in, of course islam needs to make certain points clear, as the one for apostasie, most muslim are against the death penalty in that case, but this is something the muslim community has to speak up against, it takes time and eventually we get there. The quran does speak about other faiths too, and it DOES compliment them,muslims consider jesus as a prophet, david,abraham,etc it compliments those who did the right things it promotes multi culturalism and tolerance towards other faith, unless you break the muslim pact, you keep making stufff up the hole time, STOP GENERALIZING Terrorist with Muslims, you nutty, should I blame every atheist because some of them keep attacking muslim people(physically) no, do I have to blame all jews because of the atrocities they comit in palestine? no, your way of thinking is very short sighted, have a bigger picture of a world where people live in peace regardlesss of their faith and this is what we must work for, but your solution is the easy one wish will only make the future more uncertain to stage war against islam because of your bigot ideas, no more point tlking to you if you quote every single time some verse and take it literate word for word, because this just proves that you know 0 about islam
One should never insult others. As a result he can react more severely .And then situation will be aggravated. Never play with the emotions of others.I think that man was more reasonable as compared to lady.
@@muhammadkhan-wu6mb We never insult you personally, we criticism the ideology of extremism. If you think that criticising @islam is personal attack on you, then that's your issue and it should be changed if you are living in a non islamic country.
His name was never Jesus and he was never crucified (dead on the cross as a God). Christ is a borrowed word from the Greek Christos. get these facts right and all will come good.
Do you know how many Jews in Hollywood mocked Judaism? In Israel we have a tv serious called "The Jews are coming" - Mocked everything in Judaism! As a Jewish guy, its fine with me. Religion needs to care about its people and those don't believe in that religion. Definitely not harm anyone physically!
No, they died for land and wealth. And they happened to kill thousands of innocents for their strictly selfish goals as well. Even Pope Urban II had selfish motives. He called for the crusades in order to gain the upper hand in his struggle with Antipope Clement III.
I generally don't sympathize with feminists but she is a genuine one who cares about the sufferings of fellow Muslim women. That guy is an Islamic apologist.
International Version Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.
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You don't need to look into history to criticise and expose Hindu idolatry. You can simply look at India today and look at what the Hindu Supremacists are doing in Islam today to Indian Muslims, Christians, and other minorities including so called lower caste Hindus who are treated like animals by members of their Hindu
If Ramadan had been better prepared and stopped attacking Maryam he might of been able to stick to the question and also meet the time limits imposed. Namazie answered the questions posed clearly and rationally. Ramadan tried to use double speak to obfuscate the questions. Glad I never had a professor like him in university - I would have dropped the course first week. What a disingenuous speaker.
He didn’t need you hon in his classes. He had 30 other American universities to deal with and more open minded philosophical people. You don’t deserve to have him as a teacher
@@soundousbouzegza7075 Sadly you lost your idol after 5 women came out with accusation of rape. This guy is out there saying he can't debate with Irshad Manji because she's a woman. Of course he's sexist, but you might think that's a plus
Tariq Hamadan is a good debater but is handicapped by facts going against his position which in itself is deeply flawed. In such situation, one has to obfuscate the subject by bringing irrelevant emotional aspects. That's what he did when the question was regarding Charlie Hebdo and what happened in France, he brought in Beirut etc. which was absolutely irrelevant.
Tariq with all Respect due to You - I didn't think that ' she had contradictions '. As a matter of Fact - I feel that she " Truly Brings home a great many ' Core Important Points ' that need ' Sorely to be Addressed ' !!!!
The greatest man in history is Jesus. He had no servants, yet they called him master. He had no degree, yet they called him teacher. He had no medicine, yet they called him healer. He had no army, yet kings feared him. He won no military battles, yet he conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified him. He was buried in a tomb, yet he lives Today. Amen.
@@salimahmed9016 yeah his ideas of butchering whole tribes, slavery and taking women as concubines like at Banu Qurayza weren't great ideas I have to say.
@@icemanire5467 …islam n muhammad abolishing slavery bro. Please read the Quran with understanding. Get the real source about islam. Google Dr Sabeel Ahmed. May Allah bless you
@@icemanire5467 the tribes that he so called "massacred" attacked the muslims first and the muslims had a smaller army and they tried to take prisoners rather than kill the people of the tribe. the so called "slavery"comitted was when he bought dlaves from the cruel masters at a point where he could barely afford them and freed them right after buying them so he essentially freed them. read the story of sayidinah bilal. the so called "concubation" that he did was when he freed a slave and asked her to marry him to which she agreed. they then had a child after all of that. im literally a 14 yr old kid that can tell the truth from historical bias unlike yourself. may allah guide you to the right path
James Reilly We do not speak however we want in Islam . We have laws and rules. Modesty and class.However, if you chose not to follow them , it’s your problem. we do not believe everyone came on this earth to start speaking anyhow they want(this is not democracy). People had free speech that’s how the message of Jesus got tempered with and Christianity came to be. Filled with lots of errors and bunch of human ideas people thought will be good as a religion . Immensely Changing the teachings and the words of Jesus. Jesus doesn’t even know what a church is. Holy communion. The music in churches. All of that came after Jesus departure. So basically, the Christianity we came to know now is a man made (free speech ) religion . In Islam , All of the prophets spoke for their people including Jesus and The Prophet Muhammad (sws) spoke for his nation .He then he didn’t speak out because he had free speech. Revelation was happening through him, he was being recited to the book Directly from Angel Gabriel and he was immediately reciting it out.
Lunchwagon Davis in many ways, Christianity has become a symbol of Europe rather than a creed. But it’s unacceptable to say they’re against non-Europeans.
@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv OK, dude, you hate Muslims! You hate 'em so bad you start to vibrate, your face turns red, and your voice gets so high-pitched you sound like a yipping Chihuahua! Got it. Thanks for sharing.
@@danieljoseph6404 You're so sure you blurt nonsensical shit like this, i guess. Crusades were all launched FROM Europe to attack Muslims in their lands -- where Crusaders generally got disemboweled if they didn't turn back home in time.
When it comes to religion we all lack respect of each others religion. All countries have law so use law Dont take law in your hands. Dont kill what we cant create.
Krishan Zala ''When it comes to religion we all lack respect of each others religion'' Have you ever read Quran ? The only book I know ,which teaches its followers hate of others read Sura 5:51 ,Sura 9:111. Tariq is a liar .
@@kufr_antagonist from cover to cover!I asked many questions to the scholars and they were unable to properly answer. Why did God send a book that you would need someones else (scholars) opinion to judge it and was not clear about his words? If God wanted to reveal to us and he used this way to do it(some contradictory books revealed only to specific persons 3000'years ago ,2000 years ago and the last one 1500'years ago) he must have been stupid af. I would suggest you to read the quran on your own.😉
You debate here, the people to whom the debate matters don't care and listen to their imams. We need documentaries about critical thinking, science and all kind of religions mandatory in schools. We may hopefully raise more atheists this way or at least more moderates who do not follow blindly religious dogma.
+ReanimaterR , I agree with you. there should not be religious schools in the west or any country. All schools in a country should be public and free. May be there should be a subject called religions of the world where religions are studied objectively, for example: when considering hinduism....talk about why the concept of the untouchables (Dalies) is wrong... it is inhumane, organised marriages, burning of the wives with the dead husbands. In islam: The imposition of the death penalty for apostasy, homosexuality, adultery etc while paedophilia is condone. Christianity vilification of homosexuals, turning the blind on paedophilia in the church. Judaism and the abuse of Palestinia ect. All I want to say is that it is inhumane for society to encourage religious believes that insults humanity's common sense, logic and reason. We have to say loud and clear that it is not right to believe that the earth is only 6000 years old according to the abrahamic religions. that so far there is not empirical proof of any god existence...that we all first and foremost human and nobody's slaves. that we are children of the universe and that we all live in a big house called EARTH.
Lot of massive assumptions there. And a lot of dabbling about nothing. Btw, before u argue about the beliefs of Islam. Maybe actually learn what Muslims believe
Where’s the debate on Christianity or Judaism in the Middle East? There were actually substantial amounts of Christians and Jews in the Middle East once upon a time....
whats there to debate ? Christians were there before the Muslims , no Arab is contesting that fact , even the early didn't really try to contest that , they didn't even bother to convert people , they took control of what the romans controlled and then people converted slowly until they became majority Muslim .
What does that have to do with the debate? See, ppl like you diject from the actual topic. There were questions that they both answered. This is a completely different topic. As for christians and jews, before Israel they all lived together peacefully.
Shallow conversation! It was personal attack rather than a critical debate. The lady addressed good points but in not understandable way. One legit question from the guy could be “do you believe in political islam?”
what courage? like air-striking and bombing millions Iraqi people? like killing children and demolish family houses in Palestine? like bombing japan in the past? like crusaders who came for wealth and power in the name of Jesus? what courage you fokin talking about? and please edit ur comment and spell courage right. " Only currage will bring peace. That sums it up "
@@gamerstellar yes civil war amongst Iraqi Muslims. Yes repercussion of pearl harbour attack. Yes reaction to Hamas militants. Yes repercussion of 9/11, yes crusades because abrahmic religions are problem and not solution. Not justifying killing of innocents but if anything has killed humanity it's abrahmic religion and no east or no west .
Concept of God in Hinduism books 📚 1) Rigveda 📖 book 2, hymn 1, verse 11 & Rigveda book 📖 3, hymn 30, verse 10 & Rigveda book 9, hymn 67, verse 30 👇🏻 " One of the name of God is ALLAH 2) rigveda book 1, hymn 164, verse 46 "The truth is one and the God is only one 📖" 3) Chandoya upanishad 📖 chapter 6, section 2, verse 1 "Akam avidityam,God is only one without second" 4) ridveda book 📖10, hymn 114, verse 4 "The God is only one but,God has many names 5) Rigveda book 📖8,hymn 1,verse 1 "God is only one and only worship of God " 6)Sevetasvatara upanishad 📖 chapter 6, verse 9 "God has no father and no mother and no son and no daughter and no wife and parents" 7)Sevatasatara upanishad 📖 chapter 4,verse 20 "No one seen the God" 8)sri bhagwat gita 📖 chapter 10,verse 3 "God is not born and God has no beginning and i am the God of all" 9) sevetasatara upanishad 📖chapter 4, verse 19 "naa tasya pratima asti " there is no image or idol (statue) of God and no shape of God 10) Yajur veda 📖 chapter 32,verse 3 "naa tasya pratima asti" there is no image or idol (statue) of God and no shape of God " 11) Yajur veda 📖 chapter 40, verse 8 "God is formless and pure and no one like the God and God is not like human " 12) Yajur veda 📖 chapter 40, verse 9 " those peoples do worship natural elements they all are going in the hell and those peoples worship idols (statue) and man made things they all are going in the darkness " 13) Sri bhagwat gita 📖 chapter 7,verse 20 " "Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures." [Bhagavad Gita 7:20] The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God. 14) brahma sutras" ekam brahmm,dvitaya naste nen ne naste kinchan" There is only one God, not the second and not at all,not in least bit" 16) Allo upanishad"📖: amongst the various upanishads one of the upanishad is named as ‘allo’ upanishad in which god is referred to as “allah” several times.
I’m happy for you if you follow real Christianity the first scripture then I’m proud of you. Because Old Testaments said Jesus is the prophet and believe in one God only.
@@gulkhan-dg3do Old Testament says Jesus is God Psalm 2, Daniel 7:13-15 that is real Christianity. Because Jesus and the Apostles quoted the Old Testament many times showing they werent making things up but it was taught before Jesus came.
Biblical Christianity no where in the Bible is there a belief in the trinity that Christians belief. This was a development doctrine made by the church in the 4th century. Jesus was just a prophet and the father is the ONLY true god confirmed in John 17:3. Unfortunately today Christians have diverted from Jesus true teachings and are followers of Paul
@@rak7968 You know I can give you quotes by Christians who knew the Apostles who taught the Trinity who lived around 100 AD BEFORE 4th century? I will give you passages from Scripture on the teaching of the Trinity.
I'm Muslim and I'm better Christian than you... I'm following Christianity and my master my messenger of Almighty GoD better then you and I'm so happy...
36 minutes in I agree all should try and respect other views. But words of criticism still don’t justify a reaction of mass murder. The two levels of action do not equate.
Notice few times Prof. Ramadan was asked "what is in the philosophy of Islam that can't change" ergo that can't be reformed. Notice everytime he never addressed this. Well, theres plenty of presedent in Islamic history including during Muhammad's life on how to behave and practice Islam when you're a minority to how to behave and practice Islam when your the majority. There's a lot there that is sunnah meaning must be followed and can't be changed.
@@Zanzibar0001 then why they accept that much muslim people to their countries? Soon, EU and UK have more muslims than christian😅 why do they want this?
Islam is the true religion and no one can change the truth sinve it prevail..... UK and Americans are humans since one may have a will but the Authorities may not like the act of reverting but u cannot force people but I may askt who Attack Muslims in Middle east?
Yes, sorry for coming to invade YOUR continent it’s not like my family was brought to the uk during WW2 to aid the war effort. So then you see Muslims with better lives then you then decide that they are the problem because they are more successful then you.
Why do every Muslim portray themselves as the victim in a debate and begin directly attacking the other debater, and not the subject of the discussion. These debates are nothing more than the muslims to perfect their art of Taqiya, which is legal in Islam.
Why everyone clapping after this stupid mans talk? First,fill the hall with a lot of them,second,make them make the most noice and finally, proclaim we have won the argument. That's how they operate. Why are they in the west? Why are they not in their own country defending them like the smallest war machine on earth Israel,hehehehe! You go Israel,blow them to oblivion,hahahaha! No matter they have over ran two thirds of the world(except Israel and NZ off course)they will never overcome Israel(who is the law of God)and NZ (the testimony of the righteous),hehehehe, hahahaha, hi hihihi!!!!
I dont know. But it was adorable. The dude complained about victims of terrorist attacks acting like victims. Then cries he is a minority...... As if the number of people trumps how bad an idea is.... Its kinda pathetic theyll use any excuse to play down the shitty things said both in the Quran and the in the hadiths. ( though lets be honest not all the of it bad. But that doesnt matter what so ever. Just had to mention for the pathetic people that doesnt ever have an arguement) hell one guy told me i cant criticize the hadith that says apostates should be killed because hadiths are ordered from least imporant to most important....... Legitimately. The kid thought that was a good arguement. Kinda pathetic.
Paul Hedberg what were you watching she is very poor and has no sense of knowledge,, she sounded like a sook wining rather than a women of intellect and wisdom
This guy is a terrible representative; he doesn't WANT questions that he can't convolute somehow to bring attention to his repetitive rhetoric !This guy must be the poorest educated representative they could find to speak! Terrible speech-writers-terrible speaker ! Gosh, I dont' want to study their differences in degrees of Islam- I dont' make them study mine either- I just want the clothing to become SAFER for all concerned and the Quran's to come out instead of the face masks!Islamic notions ? I thought she said it near the end very eloquently-She was "Quite clear ?" What's his problem ? He sounds a lot more confused than SHE was! What principles actually is he concerned about "defending ?" What the heck ?And "we bring our demand that you cover your women with flammable hot materials and force it on our children too" to show you our great religious beliefs, for which the United States claim (for us) a right to religious freedom, to throw in your face while our husbands tell us how to dress? Sounds a bit convoluted to a Christian doesn't it ? Add to that hiding ones face to all others, and "their God".
@@mehdimilan6978 ex Muslim is another way of saying pick me I want attention 🤡🤡🤡🤦🏾♂️ Islam is the fastest growing religion in the west by conversion not by sword but by intellect 🤷🏾♂️❤️☝🏾
Absolutely not. They should have been challenged in court and sued for hate speech. In a democratic society no one should be attacked physically or worse killed for something they wrote or said.
@مُحنك You are mixing personal/family attacks with mockery of clergy in general. That’s a bad comparison. Your post reminds of school yard bullying. Which though horrible for the bullied, doesn’t give him right to shoot and kill the class mates.
We in Europe do not except radicalised mentality of many who follow Islam ,millions have decided to come to Europe rather than on fifty Muslims countries ,many of us are alarmed by this religion ,we have been christian countries for more than five hundred years ,and migrates must understand when they come to our or other Christian countries they must understand ,they come here and must adhere to our culture and beliefs not the other way round .
muslims adhere how they can adhere and wont change their beliefs at all as that would make them change their belief systems and result to them not being muslims at all and many countries in europe are not christian countries but christian majority countries and are secular nations muslims come to live their lives not to attack other people so i do not see a reason for you to be alarmed and 99 percent of muslims do not have a radical mentality so there is no reason for your RADICAL mentality
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When did a religion become a race?
Is there such a thing as Christianophobia or Hinduphobia or buddhiphobia?
+mackjeez The suffix -phobia has nothing to do with races, so the term "Islamophobia" can be used.
@ryan4305
I completely agree but you missed the point of my argument.
The issue is that the term (islamaphobia) is more often than not associated with race.
Even in 2011 the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) began defining islamaphobia as a form of racism.
Every Muslim association and even the Arab League state that"Islam is not a race", but Islamophobia is racism.
Which doesn't make any freaking sense.
It's like saying "Christianity is not a race", but Christophobia is racism.
Since the jews convinced everybody they were the chosen people. Been happening for centuries.
mackjeez What i don't understand is why so many people makes a huge deal about it. You're correct racism isn't the right term to describe islamophobia but you understood the point he wanted to make, so why don't you just add it to the long list of commonly misused words ?
ryan4305
Well, the issue is that it's a pretty big word to be misused, especially in modern western society. Imagine Christians using Christophobia the same way Islam is using Islamophobia.
A journalist, celebrity, actor...etc.. can literately bash Christians and Christianity to their heart's content without repercussions. By acknowledging that any criticizing of Islam is considered Islamophobic (racist), you are creating a scenario where in western society, you cannot under any circumstance criticize the religion or it's actions.
It's bad enough people died by drawing a cartoon of their prophet, but soon we won't even be able to state the obvious problems of Islam without being called a bigot, racist or even worse, be persecuted for our opinions.
This "misused word" shouldn't even exist let alone be associated with something like racism.
2020, 4 years later. Europe is more Islamised.
The British Labour Party is all Islamic.
still other countries are not understanding their tricks
@@markjayd8704 that may be possible but in europe we arent pushing people of buildings for being homosexuals we arent saying abusing women is ok, we arent radicalising our youth
@@maximus8574 Its islamabad, its the capital, dude! go check the human development index of islamabad.
If you are ranked so high in hdi, health, security, education, freedom of expression etc
Then how do you imagine shaming homosexuality or youths radicalization is even possible.
Don't believe in what anyone say to you. you should go there and find by and for yourself!
Pkmkb
it's time to wake up Europe
It's PAST time for Europe to wake up!
@The Last Saxon well didn't go so well😏😏
Yes, wake up, stop provoking us.
Right
@m d He is A NOT GOOD MUSLIM THEN!!
Maryam Namazie is so well spoken and intelligent.
Islam is not a race, Tariq!
hi the term racism is used to define discrimination of both race and creed to be honest. the only other terms more accurate would be islamophobic or 'religist'
+faction52 Rubbish. A creed is not race either. Stop making stuff up. A religion is not a race, you can change your religion but not your race. A religion is a set of ideas, bad ones most of the time.
+Julie Paterson i know of course a creed is not a race but the term racism has been used to describe the literal race discrimination and also more broadly for religious descrimination. its just the word thay is used. it would be more accurate to say religist but i dont think that has come into the oxford dictionary just yet
+Boogey Man rubbish
+Al Cubz well any religious state christian or muslim may be considered discriminatory as their head of state has to be of a certain religion. this is the world we live in
Being obsessed with one's rights is very arrogant? This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He just doesnt understand human rights in their purest form. It's scary listening to him get applause.
Chaz The demographic of the audience provides an answer.
Why can't this people host show on Christianity in middle East?
Sir . Lebanon was a Christian country few years back now it was a Muslim country. Turkey was a ruled by a Christian leader and now a it was a muslim country ther number will be small but it will multiply in big number why they are traveling 4000 kilometers to Europe ,when they have rich neighbourhood countries like Saudi Dubai oman Qatar omen that they can share same language and culture that can mingle with them.
Boronchi Pradeep how did Islam reach Indonesia and Asia when no Islam Empire in history has ever stretch into Indonesia or China where mosques are being burnt down by the government as we speak. Look in your history books. Even the Mughals never got that far or had the technology to introduce the beautiful qualities Islam has within its way of life. Explain that. Indonesia a land of islands and indigenous people have been presented Islam by who? I’ll answer that. The Quran reached them. Not people. They read it and understood it. Didn’t spread through war or conquer.
Because we know everything about christianity and beyond that you follow ... So time to give you some knowledge fam... peace ✌🏿
@@alemradoncic368 ... You won my heart!
Aly Mohammed I just speak with truth and I observe what is presented with open eyes and without doubt. As long as your curious and like Allah said “do you not ponder?” I just want to be the person with the answers to your questions.
It is refreshing to see you actually creating controversy and tackle delicate issue of liberal values. Good job to the whole board.
this guy is literally contradicting what he says 5 mins before and is interrupting her. He is quite clearly, as the lady mentioned with his view on gender segregation, a misogynist.
Hannah Abdi Islam and Women’s Rights. A classic oxymoron.
Hannah Abdi Where on earth did you find killing and raping women in the tenets of Christianity?
You watched the image only or with sound?
There is no contradiction in his speech. It is you who listened him with four ears.
"A smart person knows what to say (and their right to say), a wise person knows whether to say it or not."
The Quran is by far and easily one of the most communal books ever written if not the most communal
@@fuyoutube854 alhamdulilah
Rightly said...
@@barrak2k059 he was mocking it, u misunderstood his comment.
@Michael Smyth *way of life.*^
In Europe difference by looks, accent and especially behavior provokes prejudice from majority, yes. But very seldom a death or incarceration or even public beating.
15th
@@gingernoise711 no people are fucking bigots and racists in london you fool
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Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- *"YHWH SAVES "
Elijah means------------- --------------" MY GOD IS YHWH"
John means ----------------------------" YHWH has been gracious""
Zakariya means -----------------------""YHWH has remembered""
Jacob means----------------------------"YHWH will PROTECT!"
*******+++++++are all prophets according to the Quran++++++********
@@Hannestv4607
What’s your name? And what does it mean?
@@Hannestv4607 you are one of those that Jesus speek of you words that Jesus describe you as fool wicked adulterer that's how Jesus call someone like you your bible says so
Being a Christian for all my generations I would never imagined that one day people would come up with something called defending their right to insult a religion.
and play the victim when people respond🤦♀️
@@suma6881 jesus is a god, the people who said he was their prophet lost their caliphate
now, we expose a child rapist with the best cartoons and people are raging because they think they are the victims of muhamed cartoons...
alla has slaves, if you mock alla for being needy, you do not insult a religion
Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim
Allah said in the Qur'an
Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were 'once' one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing, Will they not then believe?
And We have placed firm mountains upon the earth so it does not shake with them, and made in it broad pathways so they may find their way.
And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy, still they turn away from its signs.
And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon- each traveling in an orbit.
We have not granted immortality to any human before you ' O Prophet', so if you die, will they live forever?
Every soul will taste death, And We test you 'O humanity' with good and evil as a trial, then to Us you will 'all' be returned.
[ Qur'an 21: 30-35 ]
@@straightpath3626 scientists know that there are no heavens, Ptolemy was wrong
anyone who rejects the prophets and the bible is a disbeliever, and hell is their destiny
ps your man made quran is corrupt and pagan
@@worfoz
Congratulation to you for attacking Islam impatiently.
We know your disease in the deep of your heart.
Only Allah's will one could know about Islam otherwise not.
Allah hate arrogant people who compare any of His creation with Him.
The lady is brilliant and she made Ramadan look as he is. A cunning two faced liar. He speaks calm nice and relaxed, but he's an Islamist at heart.
This aged well - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan ; "In November 2017, Tariq Ramadan took leave of absence from Oxford to contest allegations of rape and sexual misconduct.[10] The university's statement noted that an "agreed leave of absence implies no acceptance or presumption of guilt".[4] In February 2018, he was formally charged with raping two women: a disabled woman in 2009 and a feminist activist in 2012.[11][12] In September 2019, the French authorities have expanded the investigation against Ramadan, already charged with raping two women, to include evidence from two more alleged victims.[13] On 5 December 2019, a Swiss woman who had accused him of rape in 2018, launched a new case against him for slander.[14] In February 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping two more women[15] and in October 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping a fifth woman.[16]"
@@eduardofangueiro4066 It doesn't surprise me he's a very arrogant guy who's ego is bigger then the man.
@@eduardofangueiro4066 So unsurprising. His demeanor oozes capability.
We humans are blessed with intellect only to realize how stupid we are, and we are getting closer to our goal every day
Lol
Allaah is the creator of everything earth and sky and everything in universe and above you your belief and us our believe your choice leave us alone we pray for your guidance we love Our creator.we worship one All mighty ALLAAH THAT IS IT ACCEPT OR REJECT YOUR PROBLEM.MAY YOU RECEIVE GUIDANCE.WE WILLNEVER INSULT ANY RELIGION NOR ANY PROPHET OF ALLAAH WE LOVE AND RESPECT THEM ALL..MAY YOU STOP YOUR HATRED OR JEAULOSY FOR MUSLIMS YOUR OPINION IS NOT IMPORTANT IF YOU ARE PART OF SOCIETY RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE'S BELIEFS WE ARE IN ONE WORLD HELP TO STOP THE WARS AGAINST MUSLIMS STOP THOSE WHO MURDER TORTURE OCCUPY STEAL WEALTH OF POOR COUNTRIES IT IS DISGUSTING ILLEGAL SHAMEFUL .STOP EVIL THAT IS A MUCH BETTER WAY FOR YOU MUSLIM OR NOT WE ARE ALL CREATURES OF THE SAME KIND SPEAK GOOD OF EACH OTHER ISLAAM IS NOT AN IDEA IT IS A WAY OF LIFE.WE BELIEVE IN ALLAAH AND FOLLOW OUR BELOVED PROPHET PEACE BE UPON HIM. HE IS THE SEAL OF THE PROPHETS NO MORE MESSENGERS.AFTER HIM WE ARE THE LAST OF CREATION.END OF TIME WILL COME SOONER OR LATER.ISLAAM WILL SURVIVE..YOU AND NO ONE CAN AND WILL STOP ISLAAM NO EVIL GOVERNMRNTS WILL EVER SUCCEED LONG LIVE MUSLIMS LONG LIVE ISLAAM LONG LIVE JUSTICE AND PEACE .WE PRAY FOR LOVE AND PEACE AND TO LIVE SIDE BY SIDE IN PEACE.AND HARMONY WE LOVE ALL CREATION OF ALLAAH WE FEAR NO ONE BUT ALLAAH WE ARE NOR AFRAID OF ANY ONE BUT ALLAAH.THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.LETS STOP ALL KILLINGS AND STEALING OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES .OUR EXISTANCE.AND OUR DIGNITY..THIS WORLD NOW NEED NEW JUST LEADERS.AND STOP THIS GLOBALISATION EXPROPIATION.AND JUGLE AND PAGANISM IS GONE FROM THIS WORLD IT CAN'T COME BACK IT IS FINISH WE AS WOMAN SHOULD APPRECIATE OUR LAWS IN QURAAN OUR CHAPTERS IN QURAAN WHICH PROTECTS ALL WOMEN IN THIS WORLD WE ARE FAVOURED ABOVE ALL WE ARE GRATEFUL.TO THE QURAAN AND PRAY TO BE BENIFICIAL . TO ALL WOMAN AND MEN WE HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER WITH LOVE AND RESPECT.ISLAAM IS FOR ALL
@J C im muslim but the comment above is the worst way to preach, reminds me of christians who just say:"Repent"
@@lizzmiirad7903 and please please don't tell me that it's because it's immature when the question is based off the fact that you do indeed justify it...
@Bob Smith 🤦♂️
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it"
Honestly in every meaningful society there is right to freedom of expression, but it should be used with respect for humanity. So please don't allow political selfish interest to blindfold the TRUTH.
Islam is dieing thank goodness
@@donaldhawkins5209 ur mum is dying white boi sharia law takin over inshallah Allah hu akbar
@@Chowmein977 My brother, please be a good example to other people to spread the message of Islam. That's how Muslims are.. 🙏🙏
@@Chowmein977 HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh this nikka
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Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
**********are all prophets according to the Quran**************
You have no right to kill me for what I say
That's a strawman.
Neither debater promoted such a thing! Dr Ramadan was stridently clear in his support for free speech even against Islam, while the woman seemed concerned only with the freedom to lampoon Islam.
@Catherine Stonestreet Saudi Arabia, Iran, Oman and some other Muslim countries forbid alcohol consumption and punish violators by whipping.
Except if you're Christian. In that case they allow it, although perhaps not in public. That seems very lenient to me when I think about laws regarding alcohol and drugs in the west.
@Catherine Stonestreet
Your argument against the statement "you have no right to say something that kills me inside" is to tell that person to go back where they came from or to assimilate if they want to stay whatever you live. But is that really the right response? There's nothing in the statement that identifies the person as a foreigner and the statement itself doesn't strike me as really controversial. There are many examples of things we forbid each other to say, certainly in public, because it hurts people, because "it kills them inside". I should say because it kills *us* inside, though. We now say "the N word" when that word was once commonplace. And there are some things you can say that US courts have deemed "fighting words" and saying them akin to a physical assault. Who wants the right to say something so hurtful it kills someone else inside anyway? Or what could anyone have to say that is so important it requires being permitted to be so hurtful to someone else. Maybe there is something but I can't think of what it might be.
I hope you reconsider the question. I think it's what you would want that other person to do regarding you and your feelings.
Catherine Stonestreet mother Mary wore exactly that your bible says you should cover your head then how is it wrong to practice that I think you should too
@Catherine Stonestreet Like I said, you're welcome to laugh at my clothes but it's not right you expect me to wear a burka. Please try to pay attention.
Now, back to your request: how am I supposed to blow you, you being a woman? I'll be honest, it's a weird request, but, no judgements here! Whatever gets you off. You want me to wear a burka? Let's both wear burkas!
By their fruits shall ye know them.
Amen.
You have a picture of ahriman so I doubt anyone should listen to you.
Fruits of crusides ? Or the frutis of Temple knight ? Or the fruits of colonization ? Or the fruit of destroying Iraq, Afgahnistan , libea .... ? The fruits of Hiroshema? WW1 /WW2 ? Inded By their fruits shall we know them !!! AMEN !!
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@@Anonymous-wt7mm the fruit of your labour. "fruitless are the deeds of darkness"
She is great!
Wow. Ms. Namazie (please forgive me if I got that wrong) was awesome. She was articulate, educated, truthful and insightful. It’s even more impressive that she didn’t fall into the philosophical and semantic traps this gentleman attempted to throw at her. Hands down she was the winner of this debate!
@Pain Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but in the future let’s use facts.
0:45 if Saudi Arabia and Egypt want you away, you're probably doing something very right
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No
if you steal, kill or do other kind of crime you will be banned from arabia. so i think u are just dumb and a criminal who thinks this kind of crimes are right. so do your research or shut up you internet warrior.
Not at all. It’s something called khurooj.
I *have* to be free to have the toughts that I have.
And I *have* to be free to speak them, as much as I want.
This is the freedom I want, because it's the *duty* that I have to myself and to others.
Victor Rodrigues oLmi!
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You have a right to your freedom but you have the right to respect others or stay away from them and also you have the right to obedience because with all your rights at your own place can't be replicated to other people or other places if they are in line with your self needed freedom.
@@abrahamjatta1676, you have no idea what freedom of speech is. What does 'right of obedience' mean, what are you talking about? Obedience, is it a right or is it a duty? You seem to be confused.
If you don't agree with my freedom of speech, you are free to go. And, if I agree with that, you are free to refute my arguments. That's the freedom that you have (and that I have).
'Right to obedience'??? Obedience to whom? To you, to muslims? You are wrong, man! This is a free world, not even God forces you to obey Him; let alone men can force you.
You have a long road to go in learning what 'freedom' means...!
@@victorrodrigues5448 everyone is obedient to something
Your obedient to your view of freedom we our
But as far as I see nowadays freedom means disrespecting others belief
Ones freedom clashing with others
World going down in hell
It depends what thoughts you have. Harmful thoughts is not logic to share and double standard thoughts has to be explained individually as it depends on the mental value of that individual.
Why was Prof Ramadan allowed to subvert the clearly defined (1:30) structure of this debate, by directly asking questions of the other speaker ?
Cus he's a cool dude, unlike you . He completely and utterly destroyed her with that chess debate kung fu move while subverting your sacred british structure of debate with a real conversation. She made a fool of her cowardly self choosing not to answer such an incredibly direct question hoping it will just go away, a master stroke indeed.
@Catherine Stonestreet Give us an example then. Just asserting shit without reason is no argument.
Well-said Mariam Namazi!
This guy is a fool. How did he ever manage to become a Professor? The lady is a million times smarter.
Not at all
navid allahvaran yes absolutely
Right! Like these days you see with Professorship saying so much nonsense and it's so baffling
Tariq is not offering a solution..just looking to control and belittle.
PRECISELY!!!
Charle Abdou and all world attacks is 100% made by intelligence to make ppl hate Islam and Muslims so they go vote for racist parties like marine lepen and SD
May be you watched the images without sound.
Politics uses religious differences to only create discomfort.
never said a truer words.. politics focus on more for world than afterlife thats why they willingly to do anything to get everything in the world before dying..
They'd use anything to get into power
The lady taking part in this debate spoke with deep subject knowledge. There was little or no fat on her words, delivered with authority, conviction and utter clarity
Lol
@@ugursenturk5860 when you quit giggling, do you have a point you wanna make?
@@paulgrech4210nah
@@ugursenturk5860 shocker
@@paulgrech4210 absolutley
There is no right to unjustified VIOLENCE‼️
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That can become tricky when u call out any criticism as ''VIOLENCE''.
@@endryl08 Violence in Islam as seen by the world = kidnaping, murder, invasion
cuz the world is jealous at Islam,and want to look at Islam from a poor angle
for some reasons
fastest growing religion for a reason :)
Emancipate our self from mental slavery, None but ourself can free our mind.
- Bob Marley
This is not fair because BM also was a kinda brainwashed person, so became rastafarian (sort of christian). Another fairy tail.
who is bob marley?
This song of Freedom...
Taking a little part of something, whether it's from a song or from a religion, to justify your own small mindedness and to trick other people into liking you.. I see a lot of that nowadays.
You are not the reference to the authority of Islam
I loved this discussion.. very interesting ...
Amazing, after so long, this vid is still drawing new audiences
Thats because religious denial is an undyingbeast.
I saw the whole debate it was good, thanks for posting it
My peace i bring to you my peace i leave with you please give ala his rightful place ln his world he is going to judge all evi jesus is the ansure .
@@cyrilclarke7469 I didn’t understand ur sentence?
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Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
are all prophets according to the Quran
@@hannawurst6064 I dont understand
does someone explain this curiosity in Islam to me? If Allah is not YHWH!
**The word God (Allah, El , ELohim,.......) is just a title !! YHWH is the proper name of the 1 true God!**
Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ALLAH IS YHWH***
Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY GOD IS YHWH***
Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ELOHIM IS YHWH***
Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY EL IS YHWH***
Tbh, the first guy's question was not answered by either of them. The whole session felt more like personal attack on each other.
Beheading is not being honest.
@@RKthruthelens that’s weird, I didn’t see any beheadings in this video
@Felsimore Gumtang And what about who Killed 20 million people around the world? America?
@@ashirgujjar4092 You are free to say Christianity was hidden power to destroy the peace they are free to act like sinner theirs beliefs all are sinners accept the sin then what is need to do for good deeds the loss of humanity around the world the experiment of arms in nagasaki hirosima but not in Christian country
@@Un11-v5e what?
This was interesting... I learned a few things which is the idea of a debate. They each had some weak points and some good points. The personal jabs at each other took away from the quality. The moderator did a great job of keeping it civil and ensuring the audience followed the rules of the debate too. We need more of this respectful debate so that some listening is done too. A hot topic indeed.
The argument she presented has no foundation and at best apocryphal.
@@TAHYA_ALJAZAIR elaborate
@@negao360 Ask specific questions and I will do my best. Identify yourself as I do, it helps mankind to know who they talk, write and argue with. So please elaborate on your elaborate and be specific.
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Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
***/////////////////are all prophets according to the Quran/////////////////***
@@negao360 well for one she has no understanding about shariah! she doesn't understand what Islam is and who Muslims are - Her understanding of shariah is so wrong its funny!
" Open Discussion & Contextual REFORM in Islam is Badly Needed " !!!!
Islamic critical thinking is an oxymoron!
I notice that the muslims did not clap their hands when Maryam end her speech!
It's a thing you know. Unlike christianity where you cant question anything and atheism who just ask unnecessary questions, we muslims are allowed to ask questions and to have doubts. Faith in Islam is strengthened by doubt and asking questions. Why do you think muslims have so many scholars?
@@ahmadabdullateef3386 I have a few questions: 1. Which kind of god give the rules like that quran 4/34: "...beat your women...", 47/4: "...who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them...", 5/33: "....The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land..."
2. quran and allah did not end slavery! He forbid pork in one verse, but he did not send a single verse without other options for ending slavery. Which kind of god did not end slavery?
3. What is the definition of pedophilia? Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine.
Reference:Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255
In-book reference : Book 26, Hadith 60
English translation : Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 325
@@charleskittelp.1125 Quran 4:34. Only applies to women who abuse their rights and by extension their husbands. Explicitly stated you can't cause harm, can't hit the face can't leave a mark. Its not beating then is it? And secondly quote who dam verse.
Quran 4:74
"So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds."
Its a war verse. Really don't see the problem here.
Quran 5:33. Again its a war verse. What do you expect them to do, hand them roses?
2. There are multiple verses in the Quran whereby slaves are freed to forgive sins, slaves are allowed to buy their freedom etc. Not one verse condones slavery so yes it came to end slavery, without going through a bloody civil war.
3. Lets say he did. And? Consider these things (or don't):
She was previously engaged to another
She was fully aware and knows what she agreed to
For over 1200 nobody made an issue about their marriage until 1905, what where you guys doing in that time? Sleeping? Its obvious it wasn't an issue and thus was not paedophilia at all for 1200 years unless your ready to condemn your ancestors of paedophilia as well?
@@ahmadabdullateef3386 I didn't ask you what is the interpratetion of verses, what kind of god says that things?
1.The verse (4:34) does not contain your explanations and it is unclear what you make these explanations.
What kind of god wants believers and non-believers to fight for himself or for his command? Frankly, I would expect a god not to care for him or her to be believed.
You send orders to a society and society does not want to give up their beliefs, then you bring these people across and send war orders! If there is such a thing happen today, what is said to the man who says these orders? What is the place of war (beheading, cut the 5:22 hands and feet on alternate sides cut off...) based on belief in orders that send messages to humanity? Will we act with these rules accordingly in 2100?
2. Many options are offered instead of releasing! As I said, it directly prohibits pork but contradictively, an order from God does not prohibit slavery.
3. Are you a psychopath? We live in 2020, you say where was your mind until 1905! What you say is really pathetic arguments. If our ancestors are cannibals, should we be like that right now? If we look at what you say, we must live in this century according to the rules of the seventh century!
I’m impressed with a liberal actually speaking up for liberal freedoms. Very rare these days.
Are you liberal enough to portray the French president like Hitler as freedom of expression?
She's a Communist, not a liberal.
@@uverpro3598 Can she be a liberal communist?
@@saidinmas no. liberalists are liberals.
@@saidinmas No.
Why no freedom of expression in Islam and why Islam is compatible with secularism and democracy.
It's incompatible.
what? in islam words like freedom and do not even exist.
@@SMShah-nc6rv only anyone of these 180 karore ppl got any brain then they can verify, Muslims got kuran and alah, so they they don't need brain, alah have given to them all the instructions in the kuran.
@@SMShah-nc6rv kuran only religious book o have not read, i have learned a lot about kuran by observing how Muslims behaviour around the world, alah is biggest dictator on the planets, i have a glass of water in front of me,. get alah to drink this glass of water, i promise to change my religion and become a devoted Muslim right now, put up or shut up.
@@SMShah-nc6rv your alah have declared that im a kafir, according kuran i have to be converted by persuasion, by threats if i was living few hundred years back in history my head would have been chopped of me being a free thinking person, tell me who were your ancestors before they converted in to islam?
A live face-to-face debate is always good to watch, both educational and entertaining. Probably the only thing missing was no final vote on a winner. Would be really precious if they could repeat it now, after 7 October 2023 (if that's at all possible if one is under investigation on rape charges).
Islamophobia is my default and instinctive position!
I call it "self defense!"
Thats sad
I am Muslim i respect other people believes like Christians, they are my workmates.
Anglophbic one word.
The loss of humanity in ww1, ww2, can you define
It will be cool if you know Islam a little bit minimum read the qur'an first. If u still Islamophobia, it's yours.
Why do you label yourself an ex-muslim? What a ridiculous question. It's for the same (or at least similar) reasons that trans people label themselves trans, or people who are ex-army are often given the title of veteran. It's because these changes have had major influence on their life and it gives you an insight how/why their insight has changed.
Another reason is that certain minorities are often stigmatised (gay people, trans people, or in this case ex-muslims) and so to speak out and to be counted for helps to remove stigmas and promote acceptance. That's why people should be applauding for coming as gay/ex-muslim, it takes courage and in the long it helps promote acceptance of gay/ex-muslim people.
12:40 I'm from Bangladesh and Ajivit Roy was also writing against government censorship and imprisonment of bloggers for writing against the government. He was killed in the Ekushe Book Fair by a terrorist group(which nobody supports) and we mourned for him
@Muhammad Menal Nope Us Bangladeshi Atheists criticise all religions. It's just that islam is much more prevalent in our Bangladeshi society so we talk about It's dark sides more.We have nothing agaisnt muslim people just the religion itself. Bhalo thaken bhai.
@Muhammad Menal So the most obvious consequence is being hacked to death? Do you see the problem with our society? I am anti religion too, should I be hacked to death too if I become public? Is this your perfect islamic society? Shameful.
@Muhammad Menal So criticising Islam.Its lack of freedom of speech, sexism and homophobia is islamophobia. Killing and punishing anyone who doesn’t agree with you.Is this the religion you truely want to follow?
Sahih al-Bukhari 6922 "Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to `Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn `Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"[12]
@Muhammad Menal Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255 "It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine
WOW!! The woman won this debate, hands down!!!
No matter what is said by someone about any religion. Everyone believes what one sees around the world.
People should practice what they preach. One should show preaching in action not in words...
Truth always prevails...
But there IS ONE TRUTH
Truth is very fluid in nature. You can make a lie become truth if you repeat it enough. It is the reason religious people rant all the time.
You know what goes around from media and your Anti-Muslim channels that give you a certain perspective. Travel to those countries, speak to the people and you'll see that the world isn't really that black and yellow
People in USA ore europe think muslims live to become terroriste. NO PEOPLE we have the same normal life as the world. But no when it cames to islam they all say bad things, and one think i have nothing with our comment but if a persone who is bad and has a religion being muslim, christian ore other religion am i suposed to hate every one who is of that religion? No
**////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////***
Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- **"YHWH SAVES "*
Elijah means------------- --------------**" MY GOD IS YHWH"**
John means ----------------------------**" YHWH has been gracious""**
Zakariya means -----------------------**""YHWH has remembered""**
are all prophets according to the Quran
I’m with Maryam Namazie. I admired her.
Maryam- Well done!
This type of FORUM is a welcome decision to enlighten the public on their religions. I thank Allah SWT for giving us this chance to understand the right thing to follow and the wrong thing to throw away.
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the exactly the reason why your religion is not safe for other religions... because you guys will go to the extreme to even behead people.
don't act as if you are victims, most of the part of History your religion was always the perpetrator.
So when are you throwing away Islam?
I am a Muslim and I love to practice Islam, that was Taught by our Prophet PBUH
Muhammad was a white racist and sexist
Sahih al-Bukhari Book 3 Hadith 63
-Narrated Anas bin Malik:
While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The an then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib." The Prophet said, "I am here to answer your questions."
Sahih Muslim 6081 - “It was narrated that Abu Juhaifah said: ‘I saw the Messenger of Allah with a white complexion and some white hairs.’
Sahih Muslim 6071 - “It was narrated from Al-Jurairi from Abu At-Tufail…he was white with an elegant face.’
“…the whiteness of his cheeks.” 4:1208
Sunan abu dawud- 3:1002
The Muslim sources even go out of their way to remind us how white Muhammad was. They frequently reference the whiteness of his various body parts-something that was not mentioned about any other prophet, from Abraham to Zachariah.
Find the following in sahih albukari
“The whiteness of his shins.” 1:8:367
“…the whiteness of the thigh of Allah’s Prophet.” 8:3325
“…the whiteness of his leg.” 456:7:67
“…the whiteness of his stomach.” 9:90:342
“…the whiteness of his armpits.” 8:78:631
Find in sunan abu dawud
“…the whiteness of the forearms.” 20:3200
*WHITE MUHAMMAD OWNED BLACK SLAVES*
Sahih Al bukhari- 7263,6161
Black slave shot to death while holding Muhammad's luggage- 3858
So mubammad had sex with a 9year old girl, robbed caravans, beheaded hundreds of Jews (he is okay)- but this black man grabbed cloak before spoils were divided so he is going to hell
Provisions of the Afterlife Which Lie Within Prophetic Guidance (By Ibn Qayyim Al-jawziya) list 28 of the slaves muhammad owned. Named a woman "ship" in arabic because he loaded her like a ship to carry his things.
Muhammad had sex with his slaves- ibn ishaq page.653 (i guess thats only creepy when thomas jefferson does it)
*he called black people "raisin heads" sahih albukari- 7142
A woman may never be a leader because their mind is deficient of a man, and since oprah wants to run for prez and she is black. Guess muhammad disagrees-7099
*MUHAMMAD SAYS SATAN LOOKS LIKE A BLACK MAN* ibn ishaq page 243.
If you say muhammad was black. Thats a death penalty. AL SHIFA-Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman page 387
Why are some black people muslim.... they should be some of the last people to become muslim. Muhammad was clearly a false prophet. Muhammad thought he was possesed by a demon.. he was a sinner and couldnt save anyone let alone himself
JESUS THE CHRIST HISTORICALLY EXISTED, HE HISTORICALLY CLAIMED HE IS GOD, HISTORICALLY WAS CRUCIFIED FOR DOING SO,
HE HISTORICALLY ROSE FROM THE DEAD.
If he failed, morality becomes subjective, but guess what he didnt! There is real hope for real Justice from our creator. The day of salvation is today! What do you have to lose but your pride!
Have you researched how your sacred text was put together? Or by whom? I gather that of the some 600,000 writings that were gathered only about 2% were kept and the rest were burnt. This occurred long after his death. One seeking to run everything gathered the writings and he gave them to one man to go through. If Muhammad was a true prophet and the last one what were these two guys? You do not even face in the direction of the gathering place (mecca) that Muhammad went to, searched for his path, and then supposedly found it. Men who come after a person who was supposedly gifted by an entity ALWAYS mess with things. Abdul ..... Malik is the one who picked the guy who burnt 98% of writings about or by your Prophet. Then Malik created the Quran. Muhammad was long dead and neither met him. Petra is the direction the earliest mosques faced. It also fit the physical description of his mecca. The rivers are no longer there but the were. Your mecca was never visited by Muhammad because there was nothing there. No trade routes, no olives, no grapes, no mountains, no farms, not even a creek, let alone two of them. The New Testament, Old Testament, and the Torah have similar problems.
Deebo Nash Actually Arabs generally do not consider themselves “white”. Real Arabs are actually semetic. Hilarious. Anyway, I suggest you read up on the genetics and research about Homo Sapien skin shades. And look at color charts. Especially for varying shades of brown. I stand out when I am in front of a white sheet. My makeup is pale beige to beige depending on how much I am in the sun. Add to that is you and I share the same ancient “mother”. As with ALL our Homo Sapien relatives, the farther from the Equator our people settled the lighter shade of brown they tended to be. How much time spent in sunlight affected it too. Old photos of many indigenous of what is now North America show most as dark brown to “black”. Not red. Same with some of the Japanese and other East Asians. I gather “pale” did not start showing up among the Homo Sapiens of Europe until a measly 14,000 years ago. The source I read said it took about 6,000 years for it to be the dominate shade of brown. This has probably been adjusted since I read about it two years ago. You and I could might be able to trace our genetic markers back to the same tribe in Africa. I gather we evolved from the same rodent that survived a near extinction event. Hi coz’.
@@conniead5206 this is grade Sahih. Ya dumbass how about know that this is from their top scholars not my words. Sahih is as authentic as it gets. Donkey
"Can any Muslim convince me that Koran is the true Word of God? Can anyone tell me the name of the person who died on the cross instead of Jesus? Why He admitted He is the Son of God? Why Allah resurrected Him? Why He didn’t tell the truth to the disciples of Jesus that he is not Jesus but instead commissioned them to preach Jesus’ resurrection to the whole world?"
Maryam Namazie is my heroine.
Europe people need to study Quran and hadis only that can be able to understand how much dangerous instructions are given there,....
Dangerous and backward anyone believing it is giving up there own intelligence :/
Debi Prashad I won’t read a book of which I know for a fact is filled with hate against all that isn’t islamic.
There aren't enough showers i could take afterwards to feel clean again. no thanks
Mr topple if u do not know properly what is the main aim of Islam in Europe so how u can protest them that can be able to decive u very easily,
yes Debi, I'm reading the Quran now, too often I see "kill the infidel"...and wait till you have greater numbers, then assert Islam"...scary
Very informative and interesting debate and i appreciate to Lady she is leading very well
Tariq Ramadan blames the non-Muslims for not understanding Islam. Fact is that the Muslims themself are the ones with the least understanding of Islam. They are split up in hundreds of sects who often have so much differences that see eachother as unbelievers and murder eachother because of that. So the misunderstanders of Islam are the believers themself. And if they dont understand it, why should others, and why should we listen to Tariq Ramadan who only can give a private meaning?
You know that's actually one of the best comments I've ever read on the complexity of understanding Islam. You're so right. If Muslims can't agree on how to live under Islam the "right" way and condemn each other for their views on the religion, how are the rest of us supposed to understand it. Thank you, I will use this argument next time I find myself in a debate about Islam.
+JandCStevens Maybe this can help you to: The Quran repeatedly claims to be a “clear book” (5.15) “easy to understand” (44.58 , 54.22 , 54.32, 54.40) “explained in detail” (6.114), “conveyed clearly”, (5.16, 10.15) and with “no doubt” in it (2.1). But nevertheless there are many bloody sectarian wars among Muslims going on. All because of disputes about the clear book. Basically the Muslims themself prove these verses wrong!
+Aristotelezz tell me who isn't split, why do you have right wing or left wing, why do you have christian and chatholics why do you have protestant and atheist, your argument is that islam should be only 1 sect? well guess what they don't have it since they lost the ottoman empire, since then had to accept artificial borders(the brits bribed some to rebel), nationalism, and the first world repeating the same wars in those same land and destabalizing with constant regime change. Today you dont have 1 islam but many different islams unless all of these muslims unite. The more you stigmatise them, the more they will get united, what goes around comes around. Instead try maybe to live in peace for the greater good of the humanity, but no, you just a selfish greedy , bastard i wish you would born 100 years ago and live the misery of our grand fathers, today we could achieve so much if we worked together instead of hating each other, and don't blame the muslims because i'm sick of seen uneducated ladz yelling the same sentences about muslim people, these people they are more humble then you, more kind then you,more modest then you and you generalize everyone like a baby
+TheCrowdsOpinion There is not one religion where it's members brags so much about, they say Islam is the only religion, all others are false. But indeed like all other religions Islam is split up in many sects who often make war about it. On that level there is nothing special about Islam. But they have according to their believes very little reason to be split up. The quran repeatedly claims to be a “clear book” (5.15) “easy to understand” (44.58 , 54.22 , 54.32, 54.40) “explained in detail” (6.114), “conveyed clearly”, (5.16, 10.15) and with “no doubt” in it (2.1).
You said: "you generalize everyone like a baby".
The quran constantly speaks about the Christians, the Jews, the unbelievers, the polytheists. This is a generalisation, they are all the same, and there is not a compliment given. This is the way Muslims are schooled. But in return, if you talk about the Muslims, than you must realise there is no such thing as the Muslim. They are all different. The best way to show how rotten the message of the quran is, is to talk in a quranic way about Muslims. People who normally keep quiet angry stand up in defence of the Muslims, or some Muslims.
Firstly , every single religion claims to be the truth, you might only hear more about muslims because they are active in social media and youtube and so, if you go in africa you have those missionary claiming that they have the only true religion etc, so please stop your ABSURD FALLACY, everyone believes that his set of believe are the true on, but the difference is that we must be ale to listen to each other and make our points why we are different at thats all, respect the person.
Then you cite some reference from quran, but you don't add any context, any point of view, any understanding, you just read and traduce it in english that's all you did, and then you claim that muslims have to take the quran word for word, this isn't the case, you have to understand the context and the times we live in, of course islam needs to make certain points clear, as the one for apostasie, most muslim are against the death penalty in that case, but this is something the muslim community has to speak up against, it takes time and eventually we get there.
The quran does speak about other faiths too, and it DOES compliment them,muslims consider jesus as a prophet, david,abraham,etc it compliments those who did the right things it promotes multi culturalism and tolerance towards other faith, unless you break the muslim pact, you keep making stufff up the hole time, STOP GENERALIZING Terrorist with Muslims, you nutty, should I blame every atheist because some of them keep attacking muslim people(physically) no, do I have to blame all jews because of the atrocities they comit in palestine? no, your way of thinking is very short sighted, have a bigger picture of a world where people live in peace regardlesss of their faith and this is what we must work for, but your solution is the easy one wish will only make the future more uncertain to stage war against islam because of your bigot ideas, no more point tlking to you if you quote every single time some verse and take it literate word for word, because this just proves that you know 0 about islam
Very useful and important debate. I fully agree with the Lady debater. Oxford Union work is badly needed in today's controversial world.
One should never insult others. As a result he can react more severely .And then situation will be aggravated. Never play with the emotions of others.I think that man was more reasonable as compared to lady.
@@muhammadkhan-wu6mb both are right but slightly with the man
@@levi_2134 the man is entirely right
@@muhammadkhan-wu6mb he can react more severly? Is that islam teach you?
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We never insult you personally, we criticism the ideology of extremism.
If you think that criticising @islam is personal attack on you, then that's your issue and it should be changed if you are living in a non islamic country.
Dont you get enough funding from the school or wherever? Jesus Christ, the ads!
They are halal ads. Ads will fund future terror attacks
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His name was never Jesus and he was never crucified (dead on the cross as a God). Christ is a borrowed word from the Greek Christos. get these facts right and all will come good.
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She made a good point about being able to mock Christianity liberally and not Jewish or Islam.
Do you know how many Jews in Hollywood mocked Judaism?
In Israel we have a tv serious called "The Jews are coming" - Mocked everything in Judaism!
As a Jewish guy, its fine with me. Religion needs to care about its people and those don't believe in that religion. Definitely not harm anyone physically!
The crusaders didn't die for Europe to have a debate about this shit.
No, they died for land and wealth. And they happened to kill thousands of innocents for their strictly selfish goals as well. Even Pope Urban II had selfish motives. He called for the crusades in order to gain the upper hand in his struggle with Antipope Clement III.
Sure, and it had nothing to do with the prior 300 year long Islamic invasion of France, Hungary and Italy.
If that were the case, they would reconquer Spain, not Jerusalem. By the way, Hungary was never invaded by any Muslim until the 16th century.
He tried to diminish Maryam’s excellent points with the typical patriarchal ‘woman- emotional’- because he was irritated.
I generally don't sympathize with feminists but she is a genuine one who cares about the sufferings of fellow Muslim women. That guy is an Islamic apologist.
@jax demax EXACTLY ! typical projective identification.
well I'll be damned, a public figure woman that's not an Islam apologist.
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The peaceful Muslims are the non practicing ones.
Islamophobia is very much justified when we look at the history.
You don't need to look into history to criticise and expose Hindu idolatry. You can simply look at India today and look at what the Hindu Supremacists are doing in Islam today to Indian Muslims, Christians, and other minorities including so called lower caste Hindus who are treated like animals by members of their Hindu
Another racist asshole...!!!
For example, when Muslims ruled Hindustan for 1,000 years! You, damn ungrateful racist when ISLAM civilized Hindustan!
Christianity is the most criticised religion in the world. Yet, Christians are very tolerant about it. Muslims? Very intolerant.
If Ramadan had been better prepared and stopped attacking Maryam he might of been able to stick to the question and also meet the time limits imposed. Namazie answered the questions posed clearly and rationally. Ramadan tried to use double speak to obfuscate the questions. Glad I never had a professor like him in university - I would have dropped the course first week. What a disingenuous speaker.
He didn’t need you hon in his classes. He had 30 other American universities to deal with and more open minded philosophical people. You don’t deserve to have him as a teacher
@@soundousbouzegza7075 Sadly you lost your idol after 5 women came out with accusation of rape. This guy is out there saying he can't debate with Irshad Manji because she's a woman. Of course he's sexist, but you might think that's a plus
I bear witness that none deserves worship except Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah,
@JOHN JAMES HARPER where do u get this moon god thing from lol
@JOHN JAMES HARPER mate ffs where do u get this info from lol
It's better to convert everything to english like God did with non arabic names in quran and call Allah God.
@JOHN JAMES HARPER "Maybe the crescent moon on top of your mosques."
Ok you worship a cross then .. Pagan ..
@JOHN JAMES HARPER bokachoda
Love this conversation one of the best 🦁🦁🦁🦁💪💪💪💪💪🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🦦🦦🦦🦦🦦
Tariq Hamadan is a good debater but is handicapped by facts going against his position which in itself is deeply flawed. In such situation, one has to obfuscate the subject by bringing irrelevant emotional aspects. That's what he did when the question was regarding Charlie Hebdo and what happened in France, he brought in Beirut etc. which was absolutely irrelevant.
Good job lady👍👍👍
But I disagree with you about open borders. Just look at European countries with open borders.
Same here
What about the disappearance of christians from Lebanon and Syria.
Vasudev Vasudev they don’t belong there
They are fleeing from the crumbling nation just as we did its not because of persecution dumb dumb
They died in the hand of ISIS ... lol creation of US
They are not disappeared they left
@@kl6379 Obviously one opts to leave when survival pron to excruciating hardships.
Tariq with all Respect due to You - I didn't think that ' she had contradictions '. As a matter of Fact - I feel that she " Truly Brings home a great many ' Core Important Points ' that need ' Sorely to be Addressed ' !!!!
The greatest man in history is Jesus. He had no servants, yet they called him master. He had no degree, yet they called him teacher. He had no medicine, yet they called him healer. He had no army, yet kings feared him. He won no military battles, yet he conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified him. He was buried in a tomb, yet he lives Today. Amen.
Taking nothing away from Jesus (pbuh), Prophet Muhammad was successful and saw his ideas take root and flourish in his own lifetime.
@@salimahmed9016 yeah his ideas of butchering whole tribes, slavery and taking women as concubines like at Banu Qurayza weren't great ideas I have to say.
@@icemanire5467 …islam n muhammad abolishing slavery bro. Please read the Quran with understanding. Get the real source about islam. Google Dr Sabeel Ahmed. May Allah bless you
@@icemanire5467 the tribes that he so called "massacred" attacked the muslims first and the muslims had a smaller army and they tried to take prisoners rather than kill the people of the tribe. the so called "slavery"comitted was when he bought dlaves from the cruel masters at a point where he could barely afford them and freed them right after buying them so he essentially freed them. read the story of sayidinah bilal. the so called "concubation" that he did was when he freed a slave and asked her to marry him to which she agreed. they then had a child after all of that. im literally a 14 yr old kid that can tell the truth from historical bias unlike yourself. may allah guide you to the right path
Amen
I will consider this man a 'bully'.
So I think the definition of bully in your mind is
: a person who tells facts ( facts don't care about your feelings)
He stated if you don't agree with Islam,dont mention it, you criticize islam dont speak about it,where in Islam is freedom of speech
Stop with the misinterpretation he literally talked about it in the video
James Reilly We do not speak however we want in Islam . We have laws and rules. Modesty and class.However, if you chose not to follow them , it’s your problem. we do not believe everyone came on this earth to start speaking anyhow they want(this is not democracy). People had free speech that’s how the message of Jesus got tempered with and Christianity came to be. Filled with lots of errors and bunch of human ideas people thought will be good as a religion . Immensely Changing the teachings and the words of Jesus. Jesus doesn’t even know what a church is. Holy communion. The music in churches. All of that came after Jesus departure. So basically, the Christianity we came to know now is a man made (free speech ) religion . In Islam , All of the prophets spoke for their people including Jesus and The Prophet Muhammad (sws) spoke for his nation .He then he didn’t speak out because he had free speech. Revelation was happening through him, he was being recited to the book Directly from Angel Gabriel and he was immediately reciting it out.
so do I, he is upolite and has no logic at all
As an Atheist,i think its time for a nice decent Crusade 2.0.
Hahahaha lol 😂😁
How atheistic of you to see the value in a thing like the Crusades.
Lunchwagon Davis in many ways, Christianity has become a symbol of Europe rather than a creed. But it’s unacceptable to say they’re against non-Europeans.
@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv OK, dude, you hate Muslims! You hate 'em so bad you start to vibrate, your face turns red, and your voice gets so high-pitched you sound like a yipping Chihuahua!
Got it. Thanks for sharing.
@@danieljoseph6404 You're so sure you blurt nonsensical shit like this, i guess. Crusades were all launched FROM Europe to attack Muslims in their lands -- where Crusaders generally got disemboweled if they didn't turn back home in time.
I want to see this type of debate in a islamic majority country.
When it comes to religion we all lack respect of each others religion.
All countries have law so use law
Dont take law in your hands.
Dont kill what we cant create.
Krishan Zala ''When it comes to religion we all lack respect of each others religion'' Have you ever read Quran ? The only book I know ,which teaches its followers hate of others read Sura 5:51 ,Sura 9:111. Tariq is a liar .
@@kufr_antagonist you have to read the quran ,not what someones opinion about quran😂
@@kufr_antagonist from cover to cover!I asked many questions to the scholars and they were unable to properly answer.
Why did God send a book that you would need someones else (scholars) opinion to judge it and was not clear about his words?
If God wanted to reveal to us and he used this way to do it(some contradictory books revealed only to specific persons 3000'years ago ,2000 years ago and the last one 1500'years ago) he must have been stupid af.
I would suggest you to read the quran on your own.😉
@@kufr_antagonist 😂😂😂😂
yes the quran is true because so it is written in the quran😂😂😂ridicouous af
@@kufr_antagonist 😂😂😂😂what !!!you are the one using that ,I just made fun of your claim(you already offended me with your first comment)
You debate here, the people to whom the debate matters don't care and listen to their imams. We need documentaries about critical thinking, science and all kind of religions mandatory in schools. We may hopefully raise more atheists this way or at least more moderates who do not follow blindly religious dogma.
+ReanimaterR , I agree with you. there should not be religious schools in the west or any country. All schools in a country should be public and free. May be there should be a subject called religions of the world where religions are studied objectively, for example: when considering hinduism....talk about why the concept of the untouchables (Dalies) is wrong... it is inhumane, organised marriages, burning of the wives with the dead husbands. In islam: The imposition of the death penalty for apostasy, homosexuality, adultery etc while paedophilia is condone. Christianity vilification of homosexuals, turning the blind on paedophilia in the church. Judaism and the abuse of Palestinia ect. All I want to say is that it is inhumane for society to encourage religious believes that insults humanity's common sense, logic and reason. We have to say loud and clear that it is not right to believe that the earth is only 6000 years old according to the abrahamic religions. that so far there is not empirical proof of any god existence...that we all first and foremost human and nobody's slaves. that we are children of the universe and that we all live in a big house called EARTH.
the biggest dogma is the atheism
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Lot of massive assumptions there. And a lot of dabbling about nothing. Btw, before u argue about the beliefs of Islam. Maybe actually learn what Muslims believe
Where’s the debate on Christianity or Judaism in the Middle East?
There were actually substantial amounts of Christians and Jews in the Middle East once upon a time....
Warren Newton Yes, a lot changed in 1948.
whats there to debate ? Christians were there before the Muslims , no Arab is contesting that fact , even the early didn't really try to contest that , they didn't even bother to convert people , they took control of what the romans controlled and then people converted slowly until they became majority Muslim .
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What does that have to do with the debate? See, ppl like you diject from the actual topic. There were questions that they both answered. This is a completely different topic. As for christians and jews, before Israel they all lived together peacefully.
All of the Jews were expelled from Arab and Muslim nations.
He is attacking her all the time, which is in itself revealing
Shallow conversation! It was personal attack rather than a critical debate. The lady addressed good points but in not understandable way. One legit question from the guy could be “do you believe in political islam?”
Only currage will bring peace. That sums it up
what courage? like air-striking and bombing millions Iraqi people? like killing children and demolish family houses in Palestine? like bombing japan in the past? like crusaders who came for wealth and power in the name of Jesus? what courage you fokin talking about? and please edit ur comment and spell courage right. " Only currage will bring peace. That sums it up "
@@gamerstellar no one cares about your hurt feelings
@@Welzy79 you fit your name rofl
@@gamerstellar yes civil war amongst Iraqi Muslims. Yes repercussion of pearl harbour attack. Yes reaction to Hamas militants. Yes repercussion of 9/11, yes crusades because abrahmic religions are problem and not solution. Not justifying killing of innocents but if anything has killed humanity it's abrahmic religion and no east or no west .
@@compassioniseverything4262 nuking japan as a repercussion for attacking pearl harbor seems a bit too much doesn't it
Concept of God in Hinduism books 📚
1) Rigveda 📖 book 2, hymn 1, verse 11 & Rigveda book 📖 3, hymn 30, verse 10 & Rigveda book 9, hymn 67, verse 30
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" One of the name of God is ALLAH
2) rigveda book 1, hymn 164, verse 46
"The truth is one and the God is only one 📖"
3) Chandoya upanishad 📖 chapter 6, section 2, verse 1
"Akam avidityam,God is only one without second"
4) ridveda book 📖10, hymn 114, verse 4
"The God is only one but,God has many names
5) Rigveda book 📖8,hymn 1,verse 1
"God is only one and only worship of God "
6)Sevetasvatara upanishad 📖 chapter 6, verse 9
"God has no father and no mother and no son and no daughter and no wife and parents"
7)Sevatasatara upanishad 📖 chapter 4,verse 20
"No one seen the God"
8)sri bhagwat gita 📖 chapter 10,verse 3
"God is not born and God has no beginning and i am the God of all"
9) sevetasatara upanishad 📖chapter 4, verse 19 "naa tasya pratima asti " there is no image or idol (statue) of God and no shape of God
10) Yajur veda 📖 chapter 32,verse 3 "naa tasya pratima asti" there is no image or idol (statue) of God and no shape of God "
11) Yajur veda 📖 chapter 40, verse 8 "God is formless and pure and no one like the God and God is not like human "
12) Yajur veda 📖 chapter 40, verse 9 " those peoples do worship natural elements they all are going in the hell and those peoples worship idols (statue) and man made things they all are going in the darkness "
13) Sri bhagwat gita 📖 chapter 7,verse 20 "
"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures."
[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]
The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God.
14) brahma sutras" ekam brahmm,dvitaya naste nen ne naste kinchan" There is only one God, not the second and not at all,not in least bit"
16) Allo upanishad"📖:
amongst the various upanishads one of the upanishad is named as ‘allo’ upanishad in which god is referred to as “allah” several times.
I'm happy that I'm Christian 😊
I’m happy for you if you follow real Christianity the first scripture then I’m proud of you. Because Old Testaments said Jesus is the prophet and believe in one God only.
@@gulkhan-dg3do Old Testament says Jesus is God Psalm 2, Daniel 7:13-15 that is real Christianity. Because Jesus and the Apostles quoted the Old Testament many times showing they werent making things up but it was taught before Jesus came.
Biblical Christianity no where in the Bible is there a belief in the trinity that Christians belief. This was a development doctrine made by the church in the 4th century. Jesus was just a prophet and the father is the ONLY true god confirmed in John 17:3. Unfortunately today Christians have diverted from Jesus true teachings and are followers of Paul
@@rak7968 You know I can give you quotes by Christians who knew the Apostles who taught the Trinity who lived around 100 AD BEFORE 4th century?
I will give you passages from Scripture on the teaching of the Trinity.
I'm Muslim and I'm better Christian than you... I'm following Christianity and my master my messenger of Almighty GoD better then you and I'm so happy...
36 minutes in I agree all should try and respect other views. But words of criticism still don’t justify a reaction of mass murder. The two levels of action do not equate.
Notice few times Prof. Ramadan was asked "what is in the philosophy of Islam that can't change" ergo that can't be reformed.
Notice everytime he never addressed this. Well, theres plenty of presedent in Islamic history including during Muhammad's life on how to behave and practice Islam when you're a minority to how to behave and practice Islam when your the majority.
There's a lot there that is sunnah meaning must be followed and can't be changed.
Sunnah is not always fard
Thank you Oxford Union for sponsoring this kind of debate.We hope you continue to do more of this nature. All the best.
They say that EU and UK don't like Islam, but please check the Muslim percentage in the population of those countries, it is huge.
It doesnt matter its percentage what matters how they are treated
@@Zanzibar0001 then why they accept that much muslim people to their countries? Soon, EU and UK have more muslims than christian😅 why do they want this?
Islam is the true religion and no one can change the truth sinve it prevail..... UK and Americans are humans since one may have a will but the Authorities may not like the act of reverting but u cannot force people but I may askt who Attack Muslims in Middle east?
@@Zanzibar0001 islam is lie?
@@Alphae21 ..simply you are the biggest liar....so whatever you says is definitely a lie.
Issues facing Islam in Europe today?
Wow. Not the other way around?
Yes, sorry for coming to invade YOUR continent it’s not like my family was brought to the uk during WW2 to aid the war effort. So then you see Muslims with better lives then you then decide that they are the problem because they are more successful then you.
So all 1.8 billion Muslims invading your continent eh?
The lady is right
Why do every Muslim portray themselves as the victim in a debate and begin directly attacking the other debater, and not the subject of the discussion. These debates are nothing more than the muslims to perfect their art of Taqiya, which is legal in Islam.
Wikipedia graduate 👆👆
That's how they operate
Give them the stage,the opportunity to push their corrupt militant organisation to others follow.
Go Israel,keep bombing them.
Why everyone clapping after this stupid mans talk?
First,fill the hall with a lot of them,second,make them make the most noice and finally, proclaim we have won the argument.
That's how they operate.
Why are they in the west?
Why are they not in their own country defending them like the smallest war machine on earth Israel,hehehehe!
You go Israel,blow them to oblivion,hahahaha!
No matter they have over ran two thirds of the world(except Israel and NZ off course)they will never overcome Israel(who is the law of God)and NZ (the testimony of the righteous),hehehehe, hahahaha, hi hihihi!!!!
I dont know. But it was adorable. The dude complained about victims of terrorist attacks acting like victims. Then cries he is a minority...... As if the number of people trumps how bad an idea is.... Its kinda pathetic theyll use any excuse to play down the shitty things said both in the Quran and the in the hadiths. ( though lets be honest not all the of it bad. But that doesnt matter what so ever. Just had to mention for the pathetic people that doesnt ever have an arguement) hell one guy told me i cant criticize the hadith that says apostates should be killed because hadiths are ordered from least imporant to most important....... Legitimately. The kid thought that was a good arguement. Kinda pathetic.
I thought British were clever...but then they accepted islamists in their country...and Samuel was killed...
British who converted to Islam are they not the owners of Europe
France is not Britain 😂😂. That was what Tariq was saying - don't act upon your ignorance. That's precisely what you did 😂
@@SakibAhmed-ub3ct hey... trying to capture silly nuances...that won't work...no one buys that
There must be free of expression everywhere in the world. The woman is correct
If she will speak bad thing about ur queen what's ur reaction going to be !?!.
Saamer Lail Najd
It’s her opinion, she won’t be killed like I would if I were to talk shit about the Saudi Prince, or of Allah in a Muslim state.
@@asianbrosas3603 from ur words I can read that u have a diluted urine in ur brain
Saamer Lail Najd
Personally attacking me because you have n argument? No way to hide your barbaric religion?
@@asianbrosas3603 if ur serious to debate let,s set rules ND regulations. Don't just talked non sense
Agree with the lady. She is telling the truth.
Maryams logics are excellent. She just flog Down ramadan, islam and open The Face of The Dracula allaha.
Paul Hedberg what were you watching she is very poor and has no sense of knowledge,, she sounded like a sook wining rather than a women of intellect and wisdom
Very arrogant u r
She was sweating because she had absolutely no logical answers. in contrast Dr. was calm enough.
@@FirozKhan-tl5os no y
This guy is a terrible representative; he doesn't WANT questions that he can't convolute somehow to bring attention to his repetitive rhetoric !This guy must be the poorest educated representative they could find to speak! Terrible speech-writers-terrible speaker !
Gosh, I dont' want to study their differences in degrees of Islam- I dont' make them study mine either- I just want the clothing to become SAFER for all concerned and the Quran's to come out instead of the face masks!Islamic notions ? I thought she said it near the end very eloquently-She was "Quite clear ?" What's his problem ? He sounds a lot more confused than SHE was! What principles actually is he concerned about "defending ?" What the heck ?And "we bring our demand that you cover your women with flammable hot materials and force it on our children too" to show you our great religious beliefs, for which the United States claim (for us) a right to religious freedom, to throw in your face while our husbands tell us how to dress? Sounds a bit convoluted to a Christian doesn't it ? Add to that hiding ones face to all others, and "their God".
Truth stands alone by itself
Ex muslim here 👋🏽
@@mehdimilan6978
Do you feel honored by saying that you're an ex Muslim on every Islamic video?
@@mehdimilan6978 ex Muslim is another way of saying pick me I want attention 🤡🤡🤡🤦🏾♂️ Islam is the fastest growing religion in the west by conversion not by sword but by intellect 🤷🏾♂️❤️☝🏾
@@A1.4U It's way of saying they finally escaped their indoctrination from a fantasy
@@riplettuce8076
A fantasy? Explain more?
while no idea is sacred humans should be ………i love this woman
Don't know what the guy was trying to prove - his arguments were so fuzzy, but imho he ended up proving that Muslim=Islamist.
Go to Europe have 10 kids each and not follow their laws isn’t a civilised way to settle down . Is it ?
Go to Middle East bomb them with all kind of weapons , steal their oil , gold and other resources isn't a civilised way to settle down.Is it?
@@fbbinoire201 Peacefuls be like:
@The young G you dont even know to read properly , when i said settle? go back to school little kid
@The young G cry again
So the Charlie staff who were murdered are to blamed for their own deaths?
Muslims are despicable but those who defend them are more disgusting. I wish they end up in Muslim countries to see the real face of Islam.
Absolutely not.
They should have been challenged in court and sued for hate speech. In a democratic society no one should be attacked physically or worse killed for something they wrote or said.
@مُحنك
You are mixing personal/family attacks with mockery of clergy in general. That’s a bad comparison.
Your post reminds of school yard bullying. Which though horrible for the bullied, doesn’t give him right to shoot and kill the class mates.
@@mysterymiss9793 People like you are despicable filled with ignorance and blind hate spreading your lies for your own political agendas
We in Europe do not except radicalised mentality of many who follow Islam ,millions have decided to come to Europe rather than on fifty Muslims countries ,many of us are alarmed by this religion ,we have been christian countries for more than five hundred years ,and migrates must understand when they come to our or other Christian countries they must understand ,they come here and must adhere to our culture and beliefs not the other way round .
muslims adhere how they can adhere and wont change their beliefs at all as that would make them change their belief systems and result to them not being muslims at all and many countries in europe are not christian countries but christian majority countries and are secular nations
muslims come to live their lives not to attack other people so i do not see a reason for you to be alarmed and 99 percent of muslims do not have a radical mentality so there is no reason for your RADICAL mentality
My house is my house
My duty to clean as l will
With no duty upon thee
Unless your aid l seek
a mindblowing wonderful session. thanks to both speaker
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she is good, great arguments. Tariq as always..great speaker
A great speaker never says uh uh uh uh!