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I use triggers on my acoustic kits because I have always found that the e-kits make my wrists and elbows hurt after playing for a while and I can control the volume with a set of drum and cymbal mutes for less than 150 bucks and finally I'm not paying 8k for a kit that i will just practice on! I have just as many sounds with the Roland td50 and Octapad running triggers and I do have two pads for fun sounds like thunderstorms etc on songs like "The thunder Rolls" by Garth brooks!
Some day, some manufacturer is going to figure out how to make an electronic drum kit with full-sized pads and inexpensive wooden shells for show - in other words, a kit looks like a real drum kit - for $800. And they will not be able to make enough of them. A lot of people don't want to buy an electronic drum kit because on the low end where most of us live, they all look like toys with 8 inch pads and tiny plastic cymbals. They look like something out of a Rock Band video game. Heck, even give us full sized pads without the shells for a reasonable price. As technology advances, it ought to be possible.
Agreed, 100%. This is the only reason I don’t have an electronic drum set myself, the sizes feel too small compared to a standard kit. The ultra high end kits like this Roland do this INCREDIBLY well but I’d be completely fine with a lower level Roland, Yamaha or Alesis module but with larger drum and cymbal pads so I can space them the way I do for a standard kit. Or just put mesh heads and sensors on a more affordable kit- I think it would be awesome if Roland and DW did something like this with a PDP kit, or Yamaha with their Rydeen.
I'm a professional drummer and easily half the gigs I played with my wedding band this season were on my "little" TD-17 e kit. Why? When space is at a premium, or the acoustics of a boomy space aren't ideal for louder, unfocused frequencies, the kit is perfect. Additionally, I play lots of duo gigs with a guitarist who runs his acoustic guitar, and the stereo outs of my TD-17 into a looper, allowing us to create soundscapes over the solo sections/bridges to tunes - I can seamlessly layer percussion on top of the groove, he solos over his looped rhythm part, etc. This would literally be impossible in that scenario on an acoustic kit. And again, because mine is so compact, we can fit into very tight venue spaces, no problem.
Love you, Nick.. It's not a long catalogue of famous drummers that use these live.. so, if people dont use them live, and can afford $9000.. you can probably buy two dw kits (one with mesh heads) and learn some dynamics 😀🤣
Nick I truly love you buddy but never advise parents of kids starting the drums to put them on a ekit. That will mess up their technique from the get-go. I don't care what people say: ekits are great and all, but if you want to be able to play an acoustic kit at any point in your life, you have to practice on an acoustic kit on a very regular basis. So many more factors come into play when hitting an acoustic object, rather then switches that will trigger a perfect sound anytime. I heard this a while back and it's true: toss an ekit down the stairs and it will still sound perfect.
Nick, you're looking fantastic with the grey! That finish looks great and this is probably the first time I've heard a Roland kit with sounds that aren't completely unusable.
The 'infinite upgrade' path of edrums is what makes them so problematic right now. Who wants to spend 9K on a kit (if you can afford it), only to have the tech obsolete in a year or two. That's just insane. I've been playing forever and have both acoustic and an edrum kit (Roland VAD 500 series). I use the Roland for recording with SD and practicing but I'll never upgrade to another as it's an infinitely moving target. My acoustic kit on the other hand...
In smaller club venues, E-Drums are so great. You can really get a good band mix that won’t deafen people. I cant tell you how many times club owners, staff and patrons have complimented if not thanked us for having a live band without deafening them.
I have a DWe kit and low volume is NOT a benefit with the metal cymbals. With that being said it’s quite amazing - the feel (due to it being real drums) - the sounds (high quality DW samples) - wireless- and all that enables really natural playing when triggering a VSTi during recording
Nick rawks but this is the first time I’ve seen him completely shill a product. He must’ve felt so conflicted about it that his hair grayed overnight like Leland Palmer. 💕🐑 nick
I don’t really understand having electronic drums be the same size as acoustic drums. Surely one of the significant benefits of having an e-kit is the more compact size and lower weight.
My guess is for the ease of switching between acoustic and electronic. Personally I’d prefer larger pads so I could set up an electronic kit like my usual acoustic setup but I’d prefer to not pay thousands of dollars for that.
I'm with ya, but as I've seen, people want them to look like an acoustic set, and because of what the person above said. So when you go back and forth, it's the same feel. I get that... I like as compact and light as possible. You don't have to hit as hard, so that lends itself to get everything as close as possible. I was hoping Roland would come out with a smaller snare that's as good as the new one that is compatible with the V71 module. I like smaller toms and smaller cymbals so I can make an insanely large set. You need extra modules, so I have the TD-6, TD-27 and TD-17, and I have tons of cymbals now !!! Hehehehehehe Whatever floats yer boat !!! 👍😁👍
I like my Roland td-27kv, had it since 2020, but my acoustic set is still the best feel. E-drums are fun though when using different sounds instead of the "acoustic" sets they have. Fun to play after work (past 11pm) but still not like the real deal with acoustic drums and cymbals. I only get the chance the play my sonor kit on the weekend, e-drums are great for your work days. Great video, great new hair style Nick
Roland would overall make a Lot more money if they sold these elite level kits at a more affordable price range. $6k+ for the lowest tier of these new kits, and nearly $10k for the top tier...unless you’re rich, the average guy can’t afford these kits.
The one thing I can say about E-kits like these that look like real drums is no more purchasing new heads, no more tuning to find that perfect sound, perfect for recording sessions and can play them any time or day!
Every kit except the Simmons SD 1250 kit 😂 literally the worst investment I’ve ever made I really like all the presets all the sounds all the ways to customize your kit. Those are all great, but when it comes down to the overall mechanical durability on the kit, literally broke after an hour of using the snare it always misfires, and it unnecessarily triggers when I’m not even touching the trigger, not only speaking on the snare most toms do the same over a while. It’s just poorly made. I guess I ended up spending more money because I’m still getting a Roland.
Even after playing acoustic drums for 30 years, I can never get a natural, open, uncompressed sound out of any E-kit. They're a completely different instrument than a traditional acoustic drum kit. I'm sure they're great, but they're just not my thing.
It’s amazing how we cannot get one of these kits under $4000 yet the profit margin that they want to make it insane and I know there is definitely companies out there can do it cheaper and probably better efnote is so much better than Roland… 😂
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How about announcing the winner of the deflepard cover contest. ! Lol I'll buy one if you tell me! Lol
I use triggers on my acoustic kits because I have always found that the e-kits make my wrists and elbows hurt after playing for a while and I can control the volume with a set of drum and cymbal mutes for less than 150 bucks and finally I'm not paying 8k for a kit that i will just practice on! I have just as many sounds with the Roland td50 and Octapad running triggers and I do have two pads for fun sounds like thunderstorms etc on songs like "The thunder Rolls" by Garth brooks!
Some day, some manufacturer is going to figure out how to make an electronic drum kit with full-sized pads and inexpensive wooden shells for show - in other words, a kit looks like a real drum kit - for $800. And they will not be able to make enough of them. A lot of people don't want to buy an electronic drum kit because on the low end where most of us live, they all look like toys with 8 inch pads and tiny plastic cymbals. They look like something out of a Rock Band video game. Heck, even give us full sized pads without the shells for a reasonable price. As technology advances, it ought to be possible.
More folks should look into A2E conversions, it's not difficult to slap triggers on an acoustic kit with mesh heads; and they'll save a ton of money.
Agreed, 100%. This is the only reason I don’t have an electronic drum set myself, the sizes feel too small compared to a standard kit. The ultra high end kits like this Roland do this INCREDIBLY well but I’d be completely fine with a lower level Roland, Yamaha or Alesis module but with larger drum and cymbal pads so I can space them the way I do for a standard kit. Or just put mesh heads and sensors on a more affordable kit- I think it would be awesome if Roland and DW did something like this with a PDP kit, or Yamaha with their Rydeen.
$800? Will literally never happen. Just because of inflation in the first place.
I'm a professional drummer and easily half the gigs I played with my wedding band this season were on my "little" TD-17 e kit. Why? When space is at a premium, or the acoustics of a boomy space aren't ideal for louder, unfocused frequencies, the kit is perfect.
Additionally, I play lots of duo gigs with a guitarist who runs his acoustic guitar, and the stereo outs of my TD-17 into a looper, allowing us to create soundscapes over the solo sections/bridges to tunes - I can seamlessly layer percussion on top of the groove, he solos over his looped rhythm part, etc. This would literally be impossible in that scenario on an acoustic kit. And again, because mine is so compact, we can fit into very tight venue spaces, no problem.
The module alone costs more than $800
All drums must be electric by 2030
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Nick! Glad you're back, I missed your drum product reviews,
The biggest low volume reason not mentioned here -- saves your hearing. Especially if you practice a lot.
That is why I replaced my 12 year old's acoustic kit with a VAD-507. Even with headphones on it was loud.
@@ThePeps1776 You get your 12 year old a $5000 drum set? That kids definitely going places.
@@hoth7381 I play it as well, and I didn't pay that much for it. Got it used and for 3000
Love you, Nick.. It's not a long catalogue of famous drummers that use these live.. so, if people dont use them live, and can afford $9000.. you can probably buy two dw kits (one with mesh heads) and learn some dynamics 😀🤣
$9000!
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Don't forget the $787 in tax.
For that I'd buy a nice high end SQ2 or Collectors series with a fancy finish.
Nick I truly love you buddy but never advise parents of kids starting the drums to put them on a ekit. That will mess up their technique from the get-go. I don't care what people say: ekits are great and all, but if you want to be able to play an acoustic kit at any point in your life, you have to practice on an acoustic kit on a very regular basis. So many more factors come into play when hitting an acoustic object, rather then switches that will trigger a perfect sound anytime. I heard this a while back and it's true: toss an ekit down the stairs and it will still sound perfect.
Nick, you're looking fantastic with the grey! That finish looks great and this is probably the first time I've heard a Roland kit with sounds that aren't completely unusable.
The prices are out of control for theses kits and they still sound like electric kits. Nope.
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Man those cymbals still sound fake to me.
The 'infinite upgrade' path of edrums is what makes them so problematic right now. Who wants to spend 9K on a kit (if you can afford it), only to have the tech obsolete in a year or two. That's just insane. I've been playing forever and have both acoustic and an edrum kit (Roland VAD 500 series). I use the Roland for recording with SD and practicing but I'll never upgrade to another as it's an infinitely moving target.
My acoustic kit on the other hand...
In smaller club venues, E-Drums are so great. You can really get a good band mix that won’t deafen people. I cant tell you how many times club owners, staff and patrons have complimented if not thanked us for having a live band without deafening them.
Exactly 💯
Club owner-Lets book metal bands!
Club owner and staff-It's too loud!
Same thing here. We were hesitant, but we've had nothing but praise for both the sound quality and keeping our band at a reasonable volume level.
7780 quid... Not including the floor monitors which are at least 400 quid each
Use headphones
I have a DWe kit and low volume is NOT a benefit with the metal cymbals. With that being said it’s quite amazing - the feel (due to it being real drums) - the sounds (high quality DW samples) - wireless- and all that enables really natural playing when triggering a VSTi during recording
I use my Roland V-Drums in my home studio to trigger EZ Drummer 3 for songwriting and production and it works great!
Nick rawks but this is the first time I’ve seen him completely shill a product. He must’ve felt so conflicted about it that his hair grayed overnight like Leland Palmer. 💕🐑 nick
A 6th reason for me to love having edrums - a LOWER price tag.
The best electric drum now!
Wow not good sounding
Exactly
The sounds are just not good. Unfortunately.
That kit really looks great!
I don’t really understand having electronic drums be the same size as acoustic drums. Surely one of the significant benefits of having an e-kit is the more compact size and lower weight.
My guess is for the ease of switching between acoustic and electronic. Personally I’d prefer larger pads so I could set up an electronic kit like my usual acoustic setup but I’d prefer to not pay thousands of dollars for that.
Looks matter to a lot of people.
I'm with ya, but as I've seen, people want them to look like an acoustic set, and because of what the person above said.
So when you go back and forth, it's the same feel.
I get that...
I like as compact and light as possible.
You don't have to hit as hard, so that lends itself to get everything as close as possible.
I was hoping Roland would come out with a smaller snare that's as good as the new one that is compatible with the V71 module.
I like smaller toms and smaller cymbals so I can make an insanely large set.
You need extra modules, so I have the TD-6, TD-27 and TD-17, and I have tons of cymbals now !!!
Hehehehehehe
Whatever floats yer boat !!!
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They sound like garbage and the entry level kits sound even worse..
I like my Roland td-27kv, had it since 2020, but my acoustic set is still the best feel. E-drums are fun though when using different sounds instead of the "acoustic" sets they have. Fun to play after work (past 11pm) but still not like the real deal with acoustic drums and cymbals. I only get the chance the play my sonor kit on the weekend, e-drums are great for your work days. Great video, great new hair style Nick
Roland would overall make a Lot more money if they sold these elite level kits at a more affordable price range. $6k+ for the lowest tier of these new kits, and nearly $10k for the top tier...unless you’re rich, the average guy can’t afford these kits.
The one thing I can say about E-kits like these that look like real drums is no more purchasing new heads, no more tuning to find that perfect sound, perfect for recording sessions and can play them any time or day!
As a purchaser of the Td50kv this new model is way out of my price range.
Even trlhe TD713 is £2000 more expensive than the outgoing TD50k2
Every kit except the Simmons SD 1250 kit 😂 literally the worst investment I’ve ever made I really like all the presets all the sounds all the ways to customize your kit. Those are all great, but when it comes down to the overall mechanical durability on the kit, literally broke after an hour of using the snare it always misfires, and it unnecessarily triggers when I’m not even touching the trigger, not only speaking on the snare most toms do the same over a while. It’s just poorly made. I guess I ended up spending more money because I’m still getting a Roland.
Even after playing acoustic drums for 30 years, I can never get a natural, open, uncompressed sound out of any E-kit. They're a completely different instrument than a traditional acoustic drum kit. I'm sure they're great, but they're just not my thing.
That intro gave me Narada Michael Walden vibes 😇
Toujours excellent batteur Nick !!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Sounds Sweet… Nick’s a beast on the drums!
Mahal !
i hope to see you w EDrum in the tour !!
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Ugh - seriously? Marketers/sales will say and do anything for money. Sad.
2024….. still sounds bad 😂😂😂
These kits are well over $10,000 in Canada. That's the ONLY reason I won't be getting one any time soon.
It’s amazing how we cannot get one of these kits under $4000 yet the profit margin that they want to make it insane and I know there is definitely companies out there can do it cheaper and probably better efnote is so much better than Roland… 😂