Roland VAD716 Electronic Drum Set Demo with Nick D'Virgilio (New 7 Series V-Drums)

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  • Опубліковано 28 лис 2024

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  • @SweetwaterSoundcheck
    @SweetwaterSoundcheck  2 місяці тому +1

    Do you use eDrums in your studio or your stage setup? Tell us in the comments how they influence your creative process, and be sure to stop by Sweetwater for a closer look at the Roland VAD716 electronic drum set 👉 sweetwater.sjv.io/EKrj2W

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic 2 місяці тому +2

      Can not use them. The lack of actual variety in sounds and attack is just to extremely limited. As someone who once sold this stuff, it has not changed very much considering.

    • @tylerhill6706
      @tylerhill6706 2 місяці тому

      @@morbidmanmusicthat’s what software is for and there is enough of them to cover all your needs for studio and live

    • @rockinvida1960
      @rockinvida1960 2 місяці тому

      @@SweetwaterSoundcheck since I live in a condo, and love to record, edrums are my only option for tracking drums. And even then, I sometimes worry about the noise created that could piss off neighbors.

  • @davidmcaninch4714
    @davidmcaninch4714 Місяць тому +4

    As a drummer, it’s only appropriate I watch my first video of a new Sweetwater channel with Nick D’Virgilio!!!!!!!!!!! You got yourself a subscriber!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @PC-je4es
    @PC-je4es 2 місяці тому +7

    Nick is back with Tour Chops!! Love to see you back in the mix Nick!

  • @wilkinsnl
    @wilkinsnl 2 місяці тому +2

    Hell yeah baby!!!! Nick’s back!!!!

  • @DarrenX9
    @DarrenX9 Місяць тому +3

    I switched to EZDrummer3 and haven't looked back. Sounds are a night and day improvement.

  • @tonyjuguan4292
    @tonyjuguan4292 2 місяці тому +4

    Nick! You're back! 😃

  • @StarrbrightTV
    @StarrbrightTV 2 місяці тому +91

    Roland still cannot get rid of the machine gunning effect after all these years? Also on Roland’s own demo video I heard a double trigger mis fire that was missed in the video edit.

    • @robertrozin300
      @robertrozin300 2 місяці тому +3

      Can you please explain?

    • @StarrbrightTV
      @StarrbrightTV 2 місяці тому +25

      @@robertrozin300 when doing fills/ rolls around the toms every stick hit sounds like it’s being hit at the same level .
      There’s no difference in dynamic hits like a real drummer . It’s like pressing a button with a one shot Tom sample very quickly. It gives a machine gun effect. It’s not natural sounding

    • @sharkuel
      @sharkuel 2 місяці тому +18

      As long as people treat this brand like the be all end all of digital percussion, they don't see any reason to evolve. Simply resell the same stuff over and over with an incremental upgrade here and there.

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic 2 місяці тому +5

      that is all electronic kits.

    • @StarrbrightTV
      @StarrbrightTV 2 місяці тому +5

      @@morbidmanmusicnot the pearl mimic pro and efnote

  • @rapdup
    @rapdup 2 місяці тому +3

    NDV, lovin' the new do!

  • @tak3000
    @tak3000 10 днів тому

    Nick is back!

  • @xClass_Clownx
    @xClass_Clownx 2 місяці тому

    The first demo of this kit. Prohdly brought to you by yours truly, Mr D’virgilio

  • @WyattLite-n-inn
    @WyattLite-n-inn Місяць тому

    Great demo!

  • @daltonidaho
    @daltonidaho 2 місяці тому +8

    We're getting there! The drums look great. Once Roland makes their drum and cymbal pads wireless and the machine gunning is fully eliminated I think we'll be in a good place. And why can't Roland give us larger floor tom pads on the less expensive kits?

    • @StereoAnthony
      @StereoAnthony 2 місяці тому +2

      Yep, that's what I'm waiting for.

  • @kevinturvey8213
    @kevinturvey8213 2 місяці тому +1

    my word! the very peak of human achievement in one youtube video!!!

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic 2 місяці тому +2

      Not much has changed in 35 years, ... so no.

  • @CozBoogie
    @CozBoogie 2 місяці тому

    Nice kit bus I'm more than satisfied with my efnote!

  • @peterkirdan
    @peterkirdan 2 місяці тому

    I love the new upgraded. Sounds from the 50.

  • @krazYFaic
    @krazYFaic 2 місяці тому

    Hey! Nick's back!

  • @carguyuk7525
    @carguyuk7525 2 місяці тому

    Really impressive. Luckily I have a detached house so I can play acoustic drums and very loud backing music. Love to try out this kit.

  • @jeffb5798
    @jeffb5798 2 місяці тому

    Glad to see Nick back. I thought he might have left SW.

  • @MarkuzP66
    @MarkuzP66 2 місяці тому +2

    Fresh ne haircut Nick and awesome Drums!

  • @thevoiceoftheteacher3581
    @thevoiceoftheteacher3581 2 місяці тому +1

    I use a mimic in studio. I will NEVER let that go.
    I might buy this module for the church. We have VAD 506 there

  • @FriscoPisco
    @FriscoPisco 2 місяці тому

    The guy playing Drums for Roland is a good Rock drum drummer.

  • @pascalkrzeminski7341
    @pascalkrzeminski7341 Місяць тому

    Roland made the best Electronic Drums.

  • @jamessullenriot
    @jamessullenriot 2 місяці тому +14

    Seems decent, but have to consider that in context of the price. In 2024 to call the color display an upgrade is laughable

  • @orlandobacklinerentals
    @orlandobacklinerentals Місяць тому

    Dissapointed the Bass Drum Logo head was crooked, but the drums and playing sounded great!

  • @guerinpatrick8571
    @guerinpatrick8571 Місяць тому

    Hello, can you give me the list of kits that are on the module please, thank you

  • @marc8vino
    @marc8vino 2 місяці тому

    I really would love to use this for recording. Superior drummer still sounds better. I have a TD-30KV and it has miss hits almost every tune and it just doesn't feel or sound the same as a recorded set. Superior Drummer seems like the closest in sounds but with miss hits it just has never worked out. I'm wondering if this new set with SD3 would be any better?

  • @demonicsweaters
    @demonicsweaters Місяць тому

    Sounds great. I still think the kick is needlessly long though. Those super deep kicks are so 2014. 22x16 would be much cooler looking.

  • @cleverdood
    @cleverdood 2 місяці тому

    Did you guys do any processing on the playing examples? Sounds like you’ve used a transient shaper to expand the initial transient, and they sound extremely compressed. The cymbals sound pretty good, the drums sound really bad for a 13k (here in Canada) set. EDIT: These definitely sound better than what this vid portrays. Sorry...I listened through my studio speakers and watched 5 other vids, the one from Long and McQuade sounds much better so I'm guessing the sensitivity, compression or processing is making these playing examples sound machine-gun-ish.

  • @matthewharrington3248
    @matthewharrington3248 2 місяці тому

    I plan on getting the DW e kit, but worry about laptop performance and capability. Would the new Roland V71 module be a good alternative for a laptop? Would I be missing out on something if I used that module instead of a laptop? Curious about pro and cons of using one or the other. Thoughts?

    • @christopherpederson1021
      @christopherpederson1021 Місяць тому

      you can load up to three different drums per pad. and samples too. not sure what else you’d need

  • @ArgonautDrums
    @ArgonautDrums 2 місяці тому +4

    6 slots total for DW sound packs?

    • @ChrisWhittenMusic
      @ChrisWhittenMusic 2 місяці тому

      You can swap them in and out endlessly

    • @ArgonautDrums
      @ArgonautDrums 2 місяці тому

      @@ChrisWhittenMusic reading the manual, it confirms only 6 slots, but you can make however many user kits from them. I wonder how long it takes to swap them; and if it's quick, it would mean they're not large/many samples.

    • @ChrisWhittenMusic
      @ChrisWhittenMusic 2 місяці тому

      @@ArgonautDrums You wouldn't swap them during a gig. You'd have a selection of expansion kits and choose the best for the job to fill your six slots, swapping them out from time to time. There are plenty of nice sounding kits in the factory library.

  • @charlieharper4975
    @charlieharper4975 Місяць тому

    The module looks like my old TD-20.

  • @geevee7823
    @geevee7823 2 місяці тому +9

    Not earth shattering enough to make the TD-50 obsolete. It's almost the same still. Still using 8-bit technology, what happened to Midi 2.0?

    • @ChrisWhittenMusic
      @ChrisWhittenMusic 2 місяці тому +2

      The kits sound significantly better.

    • @geevee7823
      @geevee7823 2 місяці тому

      @@ChrisWhittenMusic $4000 better?

    • @ChrisWhittenMusic
      @ChrisWhittenMusic 2 місяці тому

      @@geevee7823 You claimed it was almost the same. It isn't, it is vastly improved, especially in the realism of the sounds.

    • @johnburkhalter3880
      @johnburkhalter3880 2 місяці тому +1

      I totally agree. At this price the sounds should be better than the competition. Yet I'm hearing better sound from the Pearl mimic and the Alesis Strata. The Roland products are well built, but the price is not justified.

    • @ChrisWhittenMusic
      @ChrisWhittenMusic 2 місяці тому

      @@johnburkhalter3880 Try it in person

  • @localmotion2035
    @localmotion2035 2 місяці тому +12

    I do hope everyone who rants out here of the review can afford to buy one of those Roland’s, LOL..!!

    • @TonyDiaz.
      @TonyDiaz. 2 місяці тому +3

      They can’t, that’s the reason for their rants… xD
      Sort of like iphone haters; can’t afford, so I’ll talk shit about it. 😂

    • @CzarCustom
      @CzarCustom 2 місяці тому +1

      Nah I love roland and have used many of their products. I can certainly afford any of the new drum sets they released this time, however I’m not spending any money on them until the most basic problems are solved. It’s not about affording or not it’s about spending money wisely. You can get away with a cheaper option with vsts and get a better sound

    • @leedurham8625
      @leedurham8625 2 місяці тому +2

      I pre-ordered mine this morning through Sweetwater

    • @TonyDiaz.
      @TonyDiaz. 2 місяці тому

      @@CzarCustom I used to own a TD-07 and the only problem I had was the size of the toms and snare. I did like the sounds of that module. I actually do like the "Roland Sound".
      But if some don't like it, just say: I just don't like the sound. But they dismiss it because it's Roland, and they even do it to Yamaha.

    • @embersinsnow
      @embersinsnow Місяць тому

      Wow. You really wanna talk about someone's affordability of a couple thousand dollar worth of kit when it ships with issues that is expected of a 10 year old electronic kit? No excuse for Roland to fall flat on the tech when brands like EFNote are around and making far superior sounding E-kits. Roland is just riding off brand value at this point and it's shitty.

  • @360.Tapestry
    @360.Tapestry 2 місяці тому +1

    maybe some day they'll come up with a badge that's actually attractive

  • @arodgoogle6327
    @arodgoogle6327 2 місяці тому +3

    For that price you can get your dream set from your favorite drum company. Nice though.

    • @leedurham8625
      @leedurham8625 2 місяці тому

      I have never seen a DW coustom that cheap. thats not even completed.

    • @tnypxl
      @tnypxl 2 місяці тому

      @@arodgoogle6327 Peopel buy these because they’d rather not spend it on that plus proper mics, plus sound deadening in whatever room the kit is in, as well as all of the equipment that goes with mixing and monitoring drums.

    • @doublestrokeroll
      @doublestrokeroll 2 місяці тому +1

      not to mention it's not even the point.

    • @U2WB
      @U2WB 2 місяці тому +1

      @@arodgoogle6327 exactly my point. Sonor or Yamaha top-of-the-line. And REAL cymbals.

  • @Richard-yr5zj
    @Richard-yr5zj 2 місяці тому

    How many toms and cymbals can you add?

    • @christopherpederson1021
      @christopherpederson1021 Місяць тому +1

      6 million

    • @SweetwaterSoundcheck
      @SweetwaterSoundcheck  Місяць тому

      Hey, Richard-yr5zj. Thanks so much for your interest. The module has 4 additional aux inputs that you can assign to either toms or cymbals.
      I hope this helps.
      Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com

  • @regaltip8A
    @regaltip8A Місяць тому

    For that money I'll buy a top of the range DW Acoustic and still have some change.

  • @jrflyerfpv
    @jrflyerfpv 2 місяці тому +5

    LOL, that snare wire adjustment has very little affect, nothing like the range of a real snare.

  • @giadagiaguaro
    @giadagiaguaro Місяць тому

    Once again, a pure dream for the average working class folks. ubep

  • @TTPDrums
    @TTPDrums 2 місяці тому +1

    The built in sounds really should be better than this by now.
    Still miles away from replacing an acoustic kit.

  • @jaybird7773
    @jaybird7773 Місяць тому

    The only thing edrums should ever be good for are jam sessions to save everyone’s ears. I have a td17 and it’s perfect for jamming. Sounds much better than the acoustic kit in a basement or garage but it will never make it on to a stage.

  • @nuendo2496
    @nuendo2496 Місяць тому

    I just want this in a 4 piece……can I buy just a 4 piece “Ringo” kit…..

  • @BadMilkhotel
    @BadMilkhotel Місяць тому

    uh, are those frost tips my man?

  • @charliewilson3234
    @charliewilson3234 8 днів тому

    The progress is much slower than the price increase.

  • @DALTRON666
    @DALTRON666 Місяць тому +2

    Toms still sound flat and machine gunny. Its better but no where close. Seems like they spend more time on the snare drum development because the snare doesnt have these issues. If they made the toms same responsiveness as the snare then that wpuld be a real game changer.

  • @DALTRON666
    @DALTRON666 Місяць тому +3

    Yeah i dont know man.....all these E drum kits are for rich old dudes. Not many people want to dump 9k on drums. To me nothing will evwr be close to a real kit in sound and feel. I could never justify spending the monty on one when that money could go to other REAL drum gear.
    Ill never be sold on these kits.

  • @thebeat
    @thebeat 2 місяці тому +2

    New sound engine? I don’t hear the difference

  • @davefiano4172
    @davefiano4172 2 місяці тому

    I thought Machine Guns were illegal in this country! Apparently not.
    I will give Roland credit for:
    1) Digital Pads. I guess although never heard anyone rave about them vs the newer E-kits.
    2) Great looking wood shells
    3) Not doing the retarded acoustic/hybrid shells. Although, if they had, being Roland, it would then cost $20,000 lol.
    But maybe at that price they could eliminate machine gunning, make the pads wireless, and do low volume cymbals.

    • @leedurham8625
      @leedurham8625 2 місяці тому

      they have the Hybrid acoustic its called the DWe by DW which is owned by Roland. plus there was no machine gunning.. that is multiple hits "sound" from 1 hit. last kit I heard do that was an Alesis 25 years ago

  • @snaven921
    @snaven921 2 місяці тому +1

    O M G....why am I poor

  • @Romans219
    @Romans219 5 днів тому

    Being a professional acoustic drummer for many moons I will never support electric drums😮

  • @MidiPunk
    @MidiPunk 2 місяці тому +2

    Would never say anything negative about anything he does but those big ugly badges are a nope. The module might be a worthy upgrade from the TDW-20 assuming the 'ethnic' sounds are all still there.

  • @ericeverhart2834
    @ericeverhart2834 2 місяці тому +28

    Roland, Jesus Christ. Round Robin these samples. Still sounds fake. Work with Toontrack

    • @ChrisWhittenMusic
      @ChrisWhittenMusic 2 місяці тому +2

      Play the V71 in person first.

    • @U2WB
      @U2WB 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ericeverhart2834 I agree, electronic drums (especially e-cymbals) will not, CAN not sound as good as the real thing. Real cymbal decay is a very complex thing.

    • @ericeverhart2834
      @ericeverhart2834 2 місяці тому

      @@U2WB I’ve been using superior drummer since the beginning essentially. I kind of expect these new flagship modules to be able to at least be on that level. But I’m like most drummers that have been using electric kids a lot. We just want the sounds to be a little bit more realistic.

    • @kosta1605
      @kosta1605 Місяць тому +1

      you realize roland bought DW and now have access to ALL their sounds lol. Yet we still get a brand new module with crappy sounds. Unacceptable in 2024 and for that price tag....Should at least give a key to use ezdrummer3 or something.

    • @kosta1605
      @kosta1605 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisWhittenMusic doesnt change a single thing as you are hearing the sounds coming directly from the module in this video. What you hear here is exactly what you'll hear in person with headphones on.

  • @m22110
    @m22110 Місяць тому

    Why would they publish a video with Toms sounding like empty margarine containers?! 😮

  • @ArtificialJetleg
    @ArtificialJetleg 2 місяці тому

    $10,000!

  • @Youngjross24
    @Youngjross24 Місяць тому

    All these comments complaining about how these don’t sound like “real drums”. I’d be willing to bet the majority of you guys can’t tune your “real drums”.

  • @dougleydorite
    @dougleydorite 2 місяці тому

    It doesn’t sound that good but I think it’s because the kick is overpowering the rest of the kit (in the mix)

  • @kosta1605
    @kosta1605 Місяць тому +3

    for Roland buying out DW and now having access to ALL THEIR sounds, these sounds are still subpar. Maybe one day that $8,999 price tag will come with some good sounds on the module already. Doubtful but we can hope! The toms are still noticeably terrible. So sad to see that.

  • @rockinvida1960
    @rockinvida1960 2 місяці тому +1

    I think I’m gonna bite the bullet and get the 713 if I can make payments on it through Sweetwater…

  • @park171
    @park171 2 місяці тому

    I think alesis is better.

  • @javierserranoyoutube
    @javierserranoyoutube Місяць тому

    Nine thousand dollars?????

  • @davidpinnington213
    @davidpinnington213 2 місяці тому +1

    10 seconds in and its still Roland machine gunning - still a no from myself - looks the business however

  • @longsnapper5381
    @longsnapper5381 2 місяці тому

    $8,000

  • @hugostos09
    @hugostos09 Місяць тому +2

    I came from 2048 to tell you that Roland still sounds like a plastic toy

  • @U2WB
    @U2WB 2 місяці тому +1

    Sure they sound pretty good. But for $9000 I could own a set of REAL Sonor drums that would eat these for breakfast.

    • @doublestrokeroll
      @doublestrokeroll 2 місяці тому +1

      not the point.

    • @U2WB
      @U2WB 2 місяці тому +1

      @@doublestrokeroll if they’re not as good as real drums (and they’re NOT) then what IS the point ?

    • @doublestrokeroll
      @doublestrokeroll 2 місяці тому +3

      @@U2WB Think harder.
      1. Not everyone can have acoustic drums. I am not in a situation where I can make a lot of noise. Understand?
      2. "not as good" how? For what purpose? "Not as good" for being in a room and hearing acoustic drums? OK...sure.
      But how about for recording? If I use software like BFD or Superior triggered by an ekit, they most certainly sound and play every bit as good as a recorded drumset. Better even, and here's why.
      With my ekit and software I get to play thousands of drums recorded in some of the greatest rooms in history (AIR London, Sound City LA, etc) with some of the greatest mics in history, on the greatest recording consoles in history, (Neves) by some of the greatest recording engineers in history (Andy Johns, Joe Berresi, Jim Scott). Hell, I even get to play Bonham's, Ringo's, Chad Smith's, Steve Ferrone's etc, actual kits.
      Now tell me, how are you, in your house, ever going to get as good a recorded sound even with your fancy Sonor Kit (I've got about 6 different sonor options by the way) as I can get with my software? Answer: Never.
      There is more to this than just playing acoustic drums. Not everyone is looking for the same thing. Try thinking things through before making ignorant statements.

    • @U2WB
      @U2WB 2 місяці тому +1

      @@doublestrokeroll no need to get obnoxious about it. My point is that $8000 is beyond ridiculous for e-drums.

    • @doublestrokeroll
      @doublestrokeroll 2 місяці тому +1

      @@U2WB your very first post was obnoxious. A nonsense post that has nothing to do with anything when the market for the two products is entirely different. Just a smug "acoustic drummer" snobbery type post and nothing more.
      What do you think the market is for these things? You think the market for the ultra high end edrums is millions of people or something? It's a niche market at best that probably barely moves any units yearly. The cost of R&D for that thing is probably insane. A yamaha DTX which most consider not as good is 5 grand. Top end Keyboards from both companies are 4 to 5 grand. What decade do you think this is?
      It's not ridiculous at all.

  • @JustinWilson01
    @JustinWilson01 2 місяці тому +3

    No matter how expensive and fancy they make these kits they all sound like fake drums. Artificial drums. No thank you.

    • @keithwoodcrest
      @keithwoodcrest Місяць тому

      That's why VSTs exist. I've owned 4 different e kits, never used the stock sounds once because everybody knows they sound like shit

    • @kosta1605
      @kosta1605 Місяць тому

      @@keithwoodcrest its sad that you can spend $8,999+ on a kit like this but still have to drop another $300-500 for good sounds lmfao.

    • @keithwoodcrest
      @keithwoodcrest Місяць тому

      @@kosta1605I agree but is there really that much of a difference between that and paying $9k for an acoustic kit and then still having to buy cymbals, hardware, heads, sticks and mics? And if you think that's bad, wait til you see how much a DrumTec kit costs without a module

  • @DALTRON666
    @DALTRON666 Місяць тому +1

    And the fact they teamed up with or bought DW leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Mega conglomerates sucking money from people. Capatilism is making me sick. And everything is too digital. You never see majority of people wanting to change or adjust kits from their phone. Just a bunch of marketing to social media influencer trash.

    • @edjones2199
      @edjones2199 Місяць тому

      Be careful there Junior capitalism is not what is making you sick. You better study the word a little more.

  • @ERMAV
    @ERMAV Місяць тому

    Cymbals sound ok. Drums sound fake as all hell.

  • @HR2635
    @HR2635 2 місяці тому

    Still sounds like cr**.. Trigger superior drummer 3 and get 1000x better sounds.. No machine gunning.. No cutoff on cymbals being hit multiple times fast.
    The snare drums.. Man.. It's the same bad stuff like 10 years ago.
    Roland: you are on a burning platform.

  • @JeffGraw
    @JeffGraw 2 місяці тому

    Still sounds terrible.

  • @xenprovence6126
    @xenprovence6126 2 місяці тому

    Sounds horrible.

  • @bushidowarrior4917
    @bushidowarrior4917 2 місяці тому +2

    Four words: Too Expensive and HORRIBLE !!

  • @Fighter_boy80
    @Fighter_boy80 8 днів тому

    You must be crazy to spend a fortune to purchase a machining-gun😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @grumpy8413
    @grumpy8413 2 місяці тому +6

    Still has the crap looking snare that looks nothing like an acoustic snare. Still has not enough separate outputs with toms and cymbals still sharing outputs. So I will wait until Roland actually make one that you can actually use professionally. At the mo this sounds no better than my TD27. I downloaded the great DW sounds months ago then deleted them as they were no better than the TD27, just different. You only need 1 really good allround studio sounding kit, most of the kits don't actually sound that good and still need lots of tweaking.

    • @ChrisWhittenMusic
      @ChrisWhittenMusic 2 місяці тому +1

      The kits sound fantastic in person.

    • @leedurham8625
      @leedurham8625 2 місяці тому

      Looks just like an acoustic snare . I have 6 cymbals and 4 toms on my TD-50 along with hi hat and ride.. nothing is "Shared"

    • @grumpy8413
      @grumpy8413 2 місяці тому

      @@leedurham8625 Look at an acoustic snare and the back of the module, there you will see that your 6 toms share 1 left and right output, same with your cymbals. I will call that shared.

    • @leedurham8625
      @leedurham8625 2 місяці тому

      @@grumpy8413 I own lots of acoustic snares.. I also don't have six toms and they're not shared. In fact, nothing says shared on the back of my module the td50x

    • @grumpy8413
      @grumpy8413 2 місяці тому

      @@leedurham8625 Sorry I put 6 toms instead of 6 cymbals, no matter they share 2 channels as the 50X does not have individual outputs for toms and cymbals. The back of a 50X does not have separate outs for the toms if you have 4 toms they come out of the left and right output for toms, that is 4 toms sharing those 2 channels. I am guessing you are American. Put your acoustic snare next to the Roland and see if the acoustic one has a big black plastic ring at the bottom. Spot the difference.

  • @Hate999Hate
    @Hate999Hate 2 місяці тому

    Звуки дерьмо😂