Why Does The Left Hate Farmers?
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- Food is a human right, comrade.
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Alrighty, I think I've seen enough of Dev's descent into the prog defense position.
what
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@@ShortFatOtaku you don't think klaus wants to illegitimately steal all of our property? he pretty much says it all the time he gets interviewed
@@ShortFatOtaku I think he meant "prod" defense. Damn you Dev, stop defending our producers!
He shits on progs all the time.
The Left hates farmers because the farmers represent something completely alien to them: Honest work.
And they provide the food, operating on farming methods passed down through culture and empirical study. They run up against the socialist policies, that cannot adapt to reality
ironically they love organic food which requires farmers
I sort of agree here, Leftists only like the idea of "working class", they hate all the ones they meet.
@@npcimknot958 maybe that's why they're trying to get rid of all fertilizer. But even organic food needs organic fertilizer which will still create nitrogen emissions.
@@therubicon
If I understand the system properly they're trying to remove the unnatural nitrogen chemical fertilization and force organic manure fertilization. The problem is the Manure is from China, there are qualities to Manure and the process of packaging and shipping manure to farms where you could instead have cows grazing and producing local, high quality manure without the need of the logistics supply chain to deliver it is so incredibly stupid or intentionally malicious it's hard to find words to describe it.
"That's not real socialism because if it were, good things would be happening."
-Every socialist ever
I know I am preaching to the choir here, but I am so tired of when they use that line.
Regardless of what government your using nothing survives human corruption, best to jave minimal consolidated power to mitigate corruption
@@scilin8679 Communism (ironically" due to it's requirement of ' equate redistribution' invites greatest consolidation of power likely ever seen... thus also invites immense gears of corruption
Socialism is only socialism when it works. It ceases to be socialism when it stops working.
@@scilin8679 100%
Correction. The farmers aren't BELIEVING that the government ultimately wants their land. They KNOW it because the government told them.
Have to house all those migrants somehow.
Yeah it’s basically like the Labour plan for The UK. Build flats over all of the green and agricultural spaces.
The WEF literally has labeled everyone living outside of the future-controlled WEF cities as discontents and deplorable. The psyops is already happening. After the gun thing dies down the next topic will be talking about individuals who own land are colonizers and no one needs more than about 300 sq ft per person. The ideal is to move our culture to compete with china. That currently can't happen because the European Americans aren't producing enough children and aren't subservient enough, we expect a better quality of life and when times get tough we hang onto our money instead of spending thus being incompatible with the superficial economy. Hence importing whole populations of people from other countries. The united nations are part of the WEF and the UN gives people debit cards with loaded-up cash to help them on their way to the U.S.
@@Eirik_Bloodaxe you say its the Labour plan but tbh the tories really arent much better. fucking bojo was a real disappointment
@@Eirik_Bloodaxe It's the globalist agenda.
I just assumed it was because farmers embody hard work, discipline, productivity and actually contribute something of value to society.
Fucking right?
That's aboot right
Same thing I said with less snark. Heh
Apparently that's wraycist reee
Farmers and their productivity to produce food IS the means of production.
"right wing narrative"? Dev.... Boy.... The prime minister of the netherlands was caught red handed in pairlament thanking klaus schwaab in a letter for his "guidance" while denying any connection to him just seconds before....
Still failing to do more research it seems!
@@hinatagaming989 No. Dev, Tim Pool, Russell Brand, The Quartering and Joe Rogan are leftist grifters who pander to the pro liberty crowd but they refuse to admit the full extent of the evil of their tribe and run away from those monsters.
Exactly. It just feels off to see him brush that off
even someone has well versed as Dev just don't get the WEF and Klaus Shwaab stuff. he simply refuses to believe someone so cartoonishly evil looking is "for real" but the WEF is very real, and their wealth and power is VERY VERY real.
Well versed in fence sitting...
As a sidenote the WEF is tremendously influential and has many rich backers but as most forms of power theirs relies entirely on the "belief" of people of tbem being actually powerful. If they had to rely on money alone and the wider public including the politicians would not believe in them thenthey would just be another lunatic elite organisation where rich kids in suits larp as "leaders" to satiate their own hubris.
Imagine generations of farmers spending hundreds of years fighting the very ocean itself in order to produce areable land.
Imagine sweating, bleeding and toiling on those lands for centuries.
Imagine fending off foreign encroachments on those lands dozens of times over the course of your country's history.
Then imagine your government saying you're no longer entitled to those lands.
No wonder they're fucking pissed.
Better yet, imagine reshaping the very sea itself to create hundreds of square miles of land where there was none, only for your descendants to claim that we mustn't touch nature and have to keep things as they are instead of improving them for our own benefit.
Imagine fighting nature and your own kin for generations, toiling on that land, fighting sea and storm to make soil viable for food growth. Like they genuinely fought the land sea and sky to grow hope for the next generation. Nations should just stop fucking with farmers.
The Dutch won that land from the sea but it will be taken from them by the woke
@@oldluke7653 Over their dead bodies
@@guilhermehank4938 Let's hope so 🙏
Answer - Because controlling the production of food gives you an extremely tight grip on the reins of power.
Control of military power, control of food. Congratulations, you are now able to do whatever you want as the people who disagree have no recourse but to starve.
Until your society collapses from having no food besides the elite and you become another Venezuela.
He who controls the Spice controls the universe.
"The workers should own their labor" contradicts "Food is a human right". BEAUTIFUL! That's one of the best send-ups of communism/socialism/collectivism ever.
Always does.
What I always wonder when people start claiming stuff like that is, "Are YOU going to grow the food?" Because they seem to think that someone else's work is their right. And most farmers don't do it because of their sheer joy of farming.
@@wumpusrat I think there are probably more farmers that do it because they like it than other jobs. But I have no real evidence to back that up
@@wumpusrat hard work is joyful. Especially when you're your own boss. Don't mean their time is free though.
@@jonsimpson6240 I think that most farmers farm out of necessity, especially in underdeveloped countries.
The left v. The kulaks remains the most iconic political rivalry ever
listening to do nothing, never worked a physical job in their lives, streamers justify the killing of the Kulaks is a hobby of mine.
@@keithfilibeck2390 as a Minnesotan that's lived in periurban areas across the state my entire life I know it all too well
The kulaks farm machinery can be easily converted into vehicles of war
However, this time around, the Kulaks are well armed and won't take any shit from them. It'll be a short but hilarious fight.
@@genericnamehere7602 yup. It's gonna go down like the Spanish Civil War if anything actually happens(which it likely never will, because the left is just that incompetent)
Just from the title I can give you an answer: because farmers/rural folk have been stereotyped into oblivion and these geniuses don't know just how much work goes into getting your pack of chips on the store shelf.
(Little bit of rage on my end considering I grew up on a farm lol)
They hate farmers because by the very nature of how Farming is decentralized and can't be easily centralized + controlled.
Look up how Russia and China treated it's farmers, they killed them all and let the nation starve purely for their ideology.
And leftists will do it again while worshiping "green" sustainability or equality
They hate us rural/country/farmer type. Pisses me off when they think they know everything and you aren't even allowed to criticized the fact that there's no room to move or have any privacy to even cough in their tiny ass expensive apartments.
Reminds me of the Soviets with the Kulaks and the CCP with the "land owners" (who were also farmers). Yet again, we're watching as a large state and their policies run up against reality & people those policies would ruin
Preach fellow farmer
Ironic that rural stereotypes are the product of corporate propaganda to characterize countryfolk as backwards subhumans unworthy of consideration to keep workers divided amongst each other
And don't forget - farmers are "bigger real estate target"
It's easy to squeeze them because they can't just pack and leave like some other business.
Farmers literally bound to the land.
"Welp, it was a good run. Sorry Bessie."
*bang and tosses match onto the suspiciously flammable land*
You can argue about the environmental damage of farming all you want, but the solution is not to start shutting down or heavily regulating the farms into bankruptcy. That just damages your own food supply and puts thousands out of work.
Environmental damage from farming is merely evidence that the leftist management class is a complete waste because farmers can feed themselves easily. It’s the rest of us in cities wanting avocado for breakfast every day that creates the damage.
Yeah I wonder what those bogs looked like 500 years ago lol
Feels like it's being done on purpose. So some rich person/NGO can come in and buy the land up cheap.
@@Cableguy15 bingo
@@Cableguy15 Globalist economics 101. Right on the money (sorry, I couldn't resist).
It's always funny when i get called dumb or stereotyped as a idiot because I work in agriculture but point how the Chaz "garden" went to socialists
Blue collar folks have far more sense and practical knowledge than any city leftist every has.
"Farming is easy! You just the seed on the ground and let nature do the rest" - every socialist about to cause another mass famine
The repliers below the OP and above me have been shadowbanned oof just letting ya know
The CHAZ garden? Oh you mean the drug assisted interpretive dance area?
Farmers know how to farm funny enough. Diversity doesn't teach that.
"Why Does The Left Hate Farmers?"
If jannies are any indication, leftoids can't stand Sneed.
Formerly Chuck's
It's a shame very few people realize this. Thank you for speaking out about it.
Sneed and feed baby
Formerly Chuck's broken bucks.
I need this comment explained to me
*Reminds me of that Stonetoss comic where a commie claims to stand up for workers, but refuses to shake a worker's hand.*
It's called Working Clash.
PS: I live in the Netherlands/Holland, so thanks for covering this. Greetings from Rotterdam!
Gebaseerde Rotterdammert. Hier nog een.
They hate anyone who's ever picked up a hammer and/or sickle.
I have not heard that before and feel I should have. Damn.
Which is...painfully ironic
@@guilhermehank4938
**IRONIC in Palpatine voice**
I may not be representative of all 'rightoids,' but while I heard about the Indian farm protests, I didn't pay all that much attention to it; not because Modi is on the right, but because it was simply isolated to India. It was the people protesting their government and the two having to come to terms, which is how things should go. The Dutch farm protests, and the trucker protests before it is different because these governments are all signed on to the WEF/Great Reset/Agenda 2030 narratives. They're not doing this to the farmers because of nitrogen, which I'm sure the farmers want to not have go out of control because it would literally affect them too, but because Western governments want to enslave their citizens, make us eat bugs, live in pods, not have cars or homes, work for their megacorp buddies 12 hours a day, and be able to take away our bank accounts in a cashless society and dock our social credit scores if we dare speak out against their tyranny. It's a little bit different.
Yes. Dev was remarkably myopic in this regard.
I had a sort of hippie teacher in high school. For gay rights, all that peace love and anti war jazz, but for all his treehugging, he made several good points against globalization and tyranny. He was talking about society being molded to fit the will of the powerful, live in a box, eat food from a box, watch the box (tv), stay in your social box... I think his physics class’s final exam of building trebuchets and thermite for the chemistry final might have had an underlying message.
@@thebanditman5663 If only all the hippies back then were like that, we wouldn't have the decaying society we have now.
@@thebanditman5663 The core problem with most hippie types is that they seem downright incapable of realizing when the left is the one doing all of that, if they were consistent and didn't have that myopia they'd actually be more based than not even with all their other lefty to far left positions but that myopia seems to almost universally affect all of them it's baffling and honestly kinda sad.
@@thebanditman5663
"Divide and conquer".
The oligarchs and the globalists hijacked the Left around the time of the "Occupy Wall Street" protests, the rise of intersectionalism and insane identity politics followed.
Ok so, we're NOT going to talk about the dutch government aiming to actually expropriate the farmer's land to make them "climate zones" ?
Okay. Dev, did Klaus buy you?
Dev's projecting when he talks about blind spots.
Klaus buying Dev is the better scenario.
No, I think Dev is actually this much of an ideologue.
Regardless of their actual motives, Dev is correct that nitrogen contamination IS a problem. Whether or not the government of the Netherlands is actually trying to fix it or using it as a smokescreen for ulterior motives does not change the actual problem that exists. Whatever the case may be, cutting 30% of your nation's farms is idiotic.
Dev is pivoting now because he doesn't want to be associated with the right wing. He's making the left wing argument because it's he can morally suck himself off when he's eating bugs in 8 years.
@@elitemook4234 i bet you if you asked him about his blind spots he would say that he has them and doesn't pretend to not. oh but i forgot the left and the right are acting the same now so you have to be a paragon if you want to point out anything about any side.
Sorry, Dev. The right is, well, *right*.
Dont you mean 'rightoids' ugh
I really do get the feeling that he has no idea what he's talking about here. Big Tim Pool energy.
@@NitroNinja324 At least beanieboi has acknowledged that the left is an enemy.
Dev still believes there's anything of value on the modern left.
@@lesthodson2802 Tim has steadily become more and more based from the sound of things.
On every issue, always have been. All times "right wing" politics have done damage have been...when they compromised with the Left and tried giving them what they wanted/said they wanted, which was always tactical from the left to try to push for more.
When you're facing a food shortage, nitrogen emission issues can take a backseat. You could also require farmers do things like take nitrogen runoff/abatement measures.
The nitrogen pollution from farming is a lie to begin with
@@wtice4632 Then I wonder how they're even measuring it in the first place...
Well yeah.
Either people are gonna eat or
You'll be dethroned and unalive as people eat
Your choice
@@biostemm cause they cant just make up numbers? Cause they cant just erroneously put blame on farmers? The government cares about you bro /s
The farmers have offered to do that with their defacto Union. The government will not negotiate they simply want the farmers to shut up and sell their land so they can put it in perpetuity as an untouched human free Reserve.
1. They own their land
2. They own their farm as a business
3. They produce a necessary product from their work
Shame that a pearl clutching newfie leaf puts oot a Dutch Honking video before his own countries. I guess that's a False Equivalency.
I'm kinda thinking that at this point, whatever he has to say about the Canadian convoy will be extremely uninteresting at best, and maybe even wrong or hypocritical at worst.
@@psycholuigiman I think that it will be written by the government.
Hard work, responsibility, and independance. The trifecta of things young modern leftists hate.
they all want to be china. china owns everything. they can reclaim everything
Where is the hypocrisy in otaku's statement though? Given that he never said, that the farmers should just handover the food to others.
You want to know what the "right" REALLY wants? It can be summed up in three words...
LEAVE US ALONE
The problem is that we shouldnt stop even if they did so. They made sure that we know that their intentions are to DESTROY us so even if they back off, it will be temporary.
@@guilhermehank4938 Eternal Vigilance.
"Unless you have a uterus."
@@mal1500 Murder is not a right.
@@lesthodson2802 Neither is any sort of medical procedure at that, nobody has a right to another person's labor and anyone who asserts otherwise fundamentally doesn't understand what rights are and by extension endorses the concepts of slave labor and the State as the arbiter of rights or in other words the State as a god!
It's not that I don't believe in climate change. It's just that I think shooting ourselves in the foot and hurting the working class to do it and trying to force it within a decade is what's problematic.
Then push for alternative solutions rather than denial, and encourage others to do the same.
@@WolfieboyMachi Try pushing for nuclear power and see how that works out. Climate Cultists are too stupid to understand, they just want to push their religion.
@@WolfieboyMachi but youre wrong on climate change
@@WolfieboyMachi We are, and you refuse to listen. Because any solutions that don't advance the cause of international leftism are "climate denial"
@@WolfieboyMachi I don't push for denial. In fact I advocate for people to better understand the 'Dirty' side of 'Clean energy'. Solar panels don't last forever and need to be replaced. Disposal and Replacement is expensive.
Wind turbines kill tons of birds, including endangered birds. When they catch fire they're a huge hazard. The blades are only good for so long before they need to be replaced and there is no real easy way to disposed.
Hydro electric Dams disrupt water flow, fish Migration and cause water shortages in downstream states and countries. This might actually be the biggest cause of war soon.
Electric car batteries go bad and are very expensive to dispose of and recycle.
Our power grid barely is standing and gets killed by too many air conditioners in the summer. Imagine if even a quarter of the population has them. Also lithium is really rare and when the batteries catch fire it's almost impossible to put it to. Not to mention chargers are gonna stand changing people money soon, like gas pumps. It takes longer to charge and if your car runs out you need towed or to have a generator wheeled out to you.
Nuclear is great of we plan it right. Just don't let idiots manage it.
It's because people in cities genuinely believe food comes from backs of stores and think farms are just for kids to pet cows and get novelty corn. I've known people who thought like this who were in their 30s.
Love the bravado of the left talking civil war when you just KNOW the vast majority of them would be curled up in the fetal position weeping the first time they couldn't get their half caf double foam orange soy mocha frappacino latte with extra water.
there will be a time where people genuinely find trees as an amazing concept
i feel like people already might find forests (especially rainforests] as a mystical concept
You should ask one of those city people “then where does the food that comes from the back of a store come from to be there in the first place?” I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they legitimately say “but food always comes from supermarkets, not farms?”
@Dragonlord Pete I first heard about this level of stupidity from a Tim pool vid, these people if they were to see a farm in person they will think it’s some kind of animal and plant zoo
@@B1-997 they think it's made in backs of stores, like it's science or something how it's made.
"Rightoids ignore the India protests?"
Who are "rightoids" in this case?
There are so many protests kicking off around the world right now.
i mean, i don't search the world news, probably other priorities, i don't know. I'm free market free society so...
Dev doeant know hes just trying to fence sit
Shit is going down in Sri Lanka. Corruption, Chinese debt, no power/food
@@wtice4632 I wouldn't say Dev is a fence sitter. At least, not like Tim Pool is. At least Dev is outright critical towards leftists
Honestly why should "rightoids" or leftists care about another countries protests unless it directly affects the country they live on
Currently listening to the vid but you're wrong right out of the gate on a vital issue. The majority of the nitrogen pollution is foreign in nature. As in it comes from Germany and France and is not produced in the Netherlands.
Don't know if you've seen how deep the WEF is involved in Dutch politics but not only are their establishment politicians literally exchanging letters with Klaus Schwab(proven in parliament) but the WEF just promised to buy all the Dutch farmland.
Both George Soros and Klaus Schwab are Nazis war criminals, real Nazis not the bullshit leftoid label for free thinkers.
and china russia and india produced the biggest carbon.
Globalism is a terrifying force for smaller nations, when the WEF with Klaus at the helm says he can just buy all the farmland, he isn't joking, he HAS the capital to pull it off effortlessly.
I love how the young parliamentarian told Rutte so you're either lying to Schwab or you're lying to me, and then he played a video of him talking with Klaus Schwab praising him. Well played my young Dutchman.
The longer Dev tries to sit on the fence about Klaus and the WEF the more his commnets regarding blind splots smack of projection.
I don't understand why this is a thing. They're required for humans to live in large groups. I live in NYC and don't know any farmers, and likely never will, but I certainly apricate the fact that they allow us to eat food.
Edit: Otaku liked my comment, and now nobody can see it because I edited it to fix a grammar error. I'm heartbroken.
Leftists are utopian first. They imagine a system that works and then they work to force everything into that system.
You should move to a place where you have the possibly to get to know some farmers. It will help you tremendously in the long run especially given the direction america is heading....
@@KT-pv3kl No. I like where I am.
F.I.R.E. Finance, insurance and real estate. The banks want the farmers oot so they can get those juicy housing development mortgages.
@@nobodyofimprotance7615 good for you!
Have fun in megacity 1 once the starvation begins....
You can say what you want about ecological damage, and while it is a real problem, it's by far the lesser of the 2 evils here. We're unquestionably moving into a global recession, one where famine is guaranteed in some parts of the world. How could any of these people justify limiting farmers' ability to produce now, the essential prep time, as opposed to working on technology development and more efficient farming and nutrient recycle practices? Far as I'm concerned they need disaster to sell their policy, so they do everything they can to worsen it as it approaches.
because of government policy, not anything natural. Almost all modern famines have government as the root cause.
Because fuck you and fuck the poors i want to make money and making a market that benefits only me and fucks you over is what gets me off
@@afuzzycreature8387 I know that, my point is that they're making things worse actively
He's compromised.
Leave it to government to make a crisis and then come riding in with a solution to look like a saviour that should stay in power for another decade or two for it.
"There's no standing apart from the collective in their system. Only workers as a *class* have a right to their labour. Which means that workers as a class have a right to *your* labour. And if you deny other people your labour, you're violating their rights."
And now the whole Masterpiece Cake thing makes more sense.
Dude, I dunno what rightoids you're talking about in this video. It seems like it's got less to do with being excited about something fitting into a rightoid anti-globalist narrative and more to do with the fact that lowering food production is the last thing you're supposed to, not the first or second or third or whatever number they're on.
Also, saying that SriLanka thing was Jan 6th style really hurts your credibility, cuz fewer people showed up for Jan 6th, and there was no storming.
dunno if that makes me a "rightoid" but Globalism and the forces pushing it, fucking suck, I don't have many concrete political stances, but that is one I'm sticking to.
Dev is just the Canadian Tim Pool minus the "journalism". Perpetual fence sitter. Apologist extraoirdinaire.
@@aposematicayu "Let me show you about the possibilities of a canadian civil war"
-Dev Pool
i mean to be honest from the video i have seen, it does sort of look like jan 6 with some people storming around and some not.
@@thetreelander7378 I dunno. I remember folks just kinda walking in and filling up the lobby, not really storming it. In fact, there is that video of that guy urging everyone to march on the capitol and everybody around him booing him and calling him a fed.
Klause Schwab narrative? The narrative of repeating what he says and mentioning who he has influence over...
Fence sitters are nothing but leftist grifters, Tim Pool and Joe Rogan are other main examples.
Yep its a conspiracy. Just as all readings of direct quotes, showing of video evidence, And confirmation through research of publicly available information are these days.
We are getting gaslighting levels that shouldnt be possible.
@@Noperare With these gas prices? Dev could buy Twitter with that much money!
of course there is a Klause Schwab narrative, like there is a trump narrative. both sides have there cartoon villains and both sides are yet right and wrong about aspects of them.
Well the one thing you are missing is that the nitrogen emisions standard was arbitrarily created standard, like twice as strict as what germany uses. Making the “crisis” fabricated. Also politicians have been gleefully stating this will allow for more houses to be built, and im pretty sure an acre of housing creates more pollution than an acre of farmland. The enviromental argument is just an excuse. So being a centrist doesnt mean you cant pick a side on the issue, the farmers are in the right here. That being said, the way they are going about it leaves plenty of room for criticism.
Completely disagree on the last point. They saw what happened in canada and the dutch priminster is all the WEF shill that trudeu is.
The farmers know what will happen. They'll be labeled, dismissed, and eventually crushed, but they aren't playing.
A little bit unrelated ,but the worst case I've seen of this is when MovieBob was disgusted by having to see and empathize with the characters of the movie Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri.
I mean, the guy even hates fictional ( nuanced ) rural people.
MovieBob is a lolcow of the highest degree soo.....
Besides he doesnt seem to be the type to enjoy hardwork
Watching MovieBob was your first mistake
My roommate's from Shri Lanka, been fun watching the protests where civilians are just using the pool and eating from the fridge.
Not so fun hearing about people dying while waiting days in line for fuel.
Remember when Kyle Kulinski didn't know what farms were?
What? I haven't watched him in years but that couldn't of happened surely.
@@GK-mr9ko I can forgive the last half but Kyle, buddy, was your cup always empty or did you pour it out?
@man with a username No, he explicitly said he had no idea why it looked like that.
That was so cringe, at first I thought it was a parody account mocking him.
But no, he really was that naïve. . . yet he wants to tell everyone else how WE should live.
Can we send him to Alaska without a gun, so he can "prove" guns aren't necessary?
why does dev still think we all are in 2013?
Ah good to see Dev did not do a lot of research into the trucker protest in Canada, who EXPLICITALLY were citing the India protests as an inspiration.
when?
@@thetreelander7378 From day one when they got to Ottawa, "the prime minister called for protest in India with the farmers, but opposes the same action here and says we must leave, and are not worth talking to"
@@randomguyist damn 12 days late but when did i ask.
@@thetreelander7378 about 12 days ago.
@@randomguyist eh I was just joking around anyway.
Isn’t a large portion of the Netherlands built under sea level?
Gosh I suppose we should dig the levy’s up because of all the damage that’s been done to the Netherlands bogs over the last 800 years.
Give me a break Dev.
We have designated areas for that. There's even a project turning parts of the Markermeer into a bog since we're not using that lake for polders anyway.
@@VVabsa That's fucking stupid.
@@VVabsa fact is 60% of the Netherlands original environment has been impacted by building dikes to transform useless bogs into fertile farmland and places for people to live, are the Dutch really prepared to relinquish over half their nation back to nature?
I somehow doubt it.
@@JohnBrowningsGhost Hence why we only did it to small part of a lake we didn't bother to polderize. It's ok.
@@VVabsa It actually impresses me that the Dutch were doing these large projects in the 13th century.
I dunno, Dev, Klaus is pretty open about his take on "you'll own nothing and be happy." He's the globalist meme poster child for a reason.
“Honest Socialist” is a contradiction of terms.
I like how when the Dutch have to choose between money, heat, or food, they decide to sacrifice food.
What a world we live in.
The Dutch people did not decide on this. Their benevolent WEF overlords did.
@@HiddenEvilStudios you know to whom i am referring. The people running the place.
I rather have food then money to be honest.
@@GJR30 any reasonable person would agree.
@@GJR30 Money isn't worth anything if there's nothing left to buy
It's all in their big slogan "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."
Everyone concentrates on the handouts in the second part, but overlooks the enslavement in the first. "To his ability". Not his desire. Not his ambition. Ability.
If you have seen a slave toll and a vagabond live, you soon learn how much the human body can do, how much ability it does has and how little it really needs. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", both usually defined by a party bureaucracy that wants slaves and doesn't cares beyond the basic needs of those.
I acknowledge the nitrogen problem as having an effect on the environment which should be looked into, but the government shutting down farms during inflation, interrupted international trade, and an impending energy shortage simply doesn't make me concerned about the algae.
"Illegally occupying a pig farm."
I can think of less smelly places to occupy. If the protest had been up to me, I would have illegally occupied those plush, air-conditioned government offices with water coolers and their own cafeteria.
>"The workers should own the means of production!"
>"You're not really a working class-you own a milling machine!"
I have to mildly push back on the idea that the right was ignoring the Indian farmer protests. I remember Steven Crowder brought it up many times as did Sargon Of Akkad. The right wing conservatives love farmers and distrust governments more than ever.
@@ilikecatsandstuff1 Imagine the Canadian being silly when it comes to the "right wing"...
Dev if I want to see some fence sitting I'll just watch Tim Pool.
The question should always have been "How do we reduce Nitrogen emissions while not nuking all our industries and production?" Not "How do we stop Nitrogen emissions?"
It's all in my new book "The Enviromental Benefits of Nuclear Armageddon", you should read it
@@danielutriabrooks477 "This book was brought to you by Nuclear Gandhi."
So the thing that gets me about this is that if the Dutch government goes after the farmers and severely restricts or retards their use of nitrogen rich fertilizer, would that not directly affect the total amount of food produced not just for the Dutch but the rest of Europe and the world?
How many people will end up starving or dying of starvation if the government bulldozes their agenda through in the name of protecting the environment?
The most ambitious climate ideologues actually beieve the world will definately with a 100% certainty Turn into an absolute inhospitable hell scape that will kill Off most Humans anyway If they wont Push through the climate Agenda at all costs and therefore believe it's justified to kill of a few Million people with starvation to reduce Carbon Emissions
The Dutch are the second largest exporter of food; in short, A HELL OF A LOT.
General Consensus: Don't F*ck with the Farmers
"Farmers produce food. No farmers, no food" is something a 4 yo understand, but not a 40yo socialist.
I love farmers and farming in general. Its a very important, and unseen, part of all our lives. Great produce like milk and meats are a must to the public. I stand by the work of all the world class farmers out there.
I wanna be a farmer or work for one. Don't care, so long as I bathe in sun and eat some crop and meat...
You know...It's quite peculiar how these tankies claim to love the working class but hamstring and denigrate us at every opportunity.
@@genericnamehere7602 thats because to them, the only working class worth a damn are the Starbucks employees, or grocery workers and the like. Farmers, welders, construction workers, hell garbage men, they don't care about them.
Of all people, farmers are the most important to a nation
A nation that can't feed itself will starve
A nation dependant on someone else for food is a puppet
2 professions will always be needed; farmer and undertaker.
If anything, all democratic processes should give farmers a significant boost to their voting power due to their importance. I'd argue that a single farmer's vote should account for the equivalent of over 5000 urban votes.
I actually learned a fair bit from this, my only exposure about Europeon farmers was from Lotus Eaters. I’ll excuse your fencesitting for this video and leave the more knowledgeable people to call you out, my dude.
God forbid the workers actually try seizing the means
I mean, they aren't though. They are trying to prevent the seizing of their means by other people.
During the trucker protests when farmers joined them the leftoids were screaming that "they aren't the working class because the farming equipment (property) they use is worth millions and therefore they are wealthy." This of course ignores that most farmers either lease their equipment or else go massively into debt to buy it.
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@@spencerm5913 One can argue that the farmers are the workers here seizing what is theirs.
@@spencerm5913 So workers should also be the owners. That's just like a farmer as fas as I know.
9:54 = “There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy.” Alfred Henry Lewis, 1906
That's 3 days of missed meals for a polite, functioning society to go Mad Max and you can tell that wealthy politicians with the means of escaping the chaos they'll create have absolutely no fear of it because.. well.. they'll never go without.
Why we keep electing rich people who have no idea how the heavy lifting in society gets done, I'll never know.
Because nearly all politicians are like that, oh so sadly. Its extremely rare to find one that isnt.
Because the worst people can buy the best publicity, and no one hears about the best people.
From Vee this is also a powergrab of the EU where food need imported into the Netherlands even though it's a bread basket and therefore increase dependence on the EU. E.g. gas from Russia for Germany after they closed all their power plants for "zero emssions".
I heard about the India farmer protests, quite a bit actually. I didn't have an opinion because I am not familiar with what their system is like. I have heard of both the Sri Lanka and Dutch protests too. I don't know their systems either. I learn towards supporting them because I don't want people to starve because of government.
Wow, unopinionated centrist mind blower. Who would have expected.
I think DEV doesn’t really grasp the damage his relativism does. I used to love his “down to earth” stance but now I’m just disgusted by the whole clown show (the world outside and comments like this)
ore I watch:
A: Because farmers are competent (the incompetent ones fail)
B: Because, in their words, their revolutionairy potential is not bein actualized because of privileges they get from the capitalist system
Edit: Dev, are you one of those people that think a swamp is moren important than people? I live next to the netherlands, believe me when I say you don't want to live there in its natural state. Its natural state is UNDER WATER, mostly.
I'm from India, even you don't fully understand what happened here, most of the farmers(80-85%) were in support of the farmers bills, most of the farmer protesters were from one state, that being Punjab.
But why they were against the bills?
Being able to sell your production anywhere sounds good
@@alexkozliayev9902 dont know honestly, they were probably funded by foreign interests.
@@alexkozliayev9902 bcz it also means risk of big agriculture companies doing business non stop everywhere. It could have turned into miracle like indian state of Gujarat did with dairy or disaster like state of Bihar in wheat . Rewards and risk both where high i suppose so they fall back to familiar system
The Left: "I support the working class!"
Farmers: "Well gee, thank you!"
The Left: **
Yes, this is a reference to a Stonetoss comic
"Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" To say the Farmer is entitled to his crop and no one else is, is the libertarian position. The problem being that the modern left see Libertarians as right wing. And since tribal action is in full ramp, the modern left hates libertarian thought even if they might agree with some of it.
Wait, they agree on which part? All agreement appears to be superficial in hindsight. Let's see...
Equity, not equality. Race based policy. Words are violence. Bigotry (in anticipation of paradox of tolerance). Group membership over individuality. Abolishment of ownership for the benefit of society, including abolishment of bodily authonomy.
Centralization of power. Centralization and control of global economy. Revolution.
The only thing that comes to mind is not wanting a fascist dictatorship, but that's just because they want their own people at the helm doing similar things to different people for different reasons.
Another difference between the India situation and the Dutch one is the appearance of a larger issue that reducing food exports could make much worse. We may already be facing global food shortages
Just wait for the next northern and southern hemisphere winters to happen. In 18 months we will be up shit creek.
Hey Dev,
In alot of Marxist thought the Peasants were not actually considered Workers.
Some did consider them so - and they were reconciled with temporarily (maybe it was even initially sincere) but as we see in soviet history, the peasantry and kulaks were turned on, and they forced a new way of production in the surviving peasantry that made them better fit the conception of an industrial worker (the proletariat).
And the dictatorship of the proletariat - or more accurately, the Dictatorship of *the Party of* the proletariat, not only reserves the right, but sees it inevitably as its world historical mission for Progress, to liquidate the class enemies of the proletariat (excepting of course, the Party, bc thats not how power works lol).
These people are f'd is what i think im trying to say.
Why does the left hate farmers? They do because farmers represent a blind spot in their ideology they aren't willing to acknowledge they have. Socialists are about "workers seizing the means of production." The problem is, farmers do own the means of production and they are a worker. They have to in order to produce anything. With the advancement in farming techniques and equipment, it is much more expedient and productive to work the farms themselves. Combined with the months of work watering, fertilizing, keeping the pests from destroying their crops, if a farmer really wanted to, they can tell every single one of us to "fuck off," keeping the product for themselves. Thus in order for a socialist to get the item they want, they either have to play nice, or resort to violence. Usually it's the latter.
This was the same problem when socialist took over Russia. The farmers never liked the Socialist. You can predict hownthis went for the farmers.
They could also stop requiring diesel vehicles to use DEF, which is urea, 73-0-0 if you are buying it as fertilizer. Every truck that drives by on the highway is spraying nitrogen fertilizer, all year.
Nitrogen in the soil is not an issue. There are crops that utilize the nitrogen.
@@veratikon7882 there are, when it is applied at the right time on a farm for crops. Nitrogen in the soil is soluble in water and is pretty mobile if it isn't used by a crop right away. Runoff can take the nitrogen away pretty quickly. Farmers account for this when spreading fertilizer, applying it when the crops need it, but the DEF in the trucks goes all year.
I agree, which is why going after the farmers seems less like a response to pollution, and more like a targetted attack. As to the DEF issue i get what your saying, but more Nox gasses would not be all that good.
Seems dumb to insist on interpreting events (the Dutch and Indian farmer protests, for example) through the lens abstract ideology (leftist or rightist) while ignoring widely variable local contexts of theses protests. I think it's the same with democracy vs. autocracy. As much as I despise the CCP, the fact is that autocracy, or strong authoritarianism, is the ideal form of government for China and Chinese political culture -- rooted in Legalism and Confucianism -- is predisposed to authoritarianism. Liberal democracy is alien to Chinese culture and history. Democracy/republicanism would inevitably lead to China breaking up as a unified nation, which would inevitably mean a bloody civil war (Chinese internecine wars are always bloody and horrifying) as the disparate parts fight for independence or to reunify the Middle Kingdom, resulting in tens, maybe hundreds, of millions of dead. So as much as I prefer democracy and republicanism for the United States, and the West in general, it's not ideal for every country depending on their particular circumstances and context (history, geography, culture or cultures, etc.).
Yep this is the worst of dev trying to fence sit.
Its the reason why Russia turned out the way it did between the Fall of the Soviets and today. You just don't undo over a thousand years of tsarism in a decade. Even the Soviets had a Tsar, they just called him General Secretary.
Very true. This is actually a big reason why Putin miscalculated in his belief that the Russians would be welcomed by their Ukrainian "little brothers" who would willingly accept their place among "all the Russias" with Putin as the Tsar of All the Russias. He drank the neo-Tsarist cool aid. Similarly, the CCP is a modern Chinese imperial dynasty, the Party cadres are modern mandarins, and the CCP will not tolerate any rival to its Mandate of Heaven (i.e., Taiwan).
Sorry for all the edits. I had to put together a lot of TPS reports at work so my brain's kind of fried.
@@MachineMan-mj4gjit’s because no one had experience with the sort of government before and they had no one to guide them . That’s why they went back to what they knew.
I think this is why democracy wasn't super successful in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those cultures just weren't ready for it.
2:15 the thing is thats what happens anyways. grasslands give way to forests, forests turn into bogs, turn back into grassland. its just a cycle. its only humans that have gotten bent out of shape about some bug going extinct. you think nothing ever went extinct before humans starting industrializing? sure stuff is changing faster because of humans, but life has either adapted or not and the world has been fine. there will be something else to fill that niche if one endangered animal dies out.
even the Sahara was a jungle about 10,000 years ago. do we need to replant the desert because of all the species that probably went extinct?
is there a name for this grassland-forest-bog cycle?
@@dinosaurusrex1482 pond succession
@@hex5874 i think you got the cycle's order wrong?
Just because things went extinct naturally doesn't mean we should just make things extinct out of laziness and apathy. best case scenario nothing happens, including no benefit, but worst case scenario you knock out a key part of the ecosystem a la Mao killing off sparrows and you end up with a major ecological catastrophe.
@@als3022 i think i once saw a star trek episode like that
Okay, here's a question to you all:
Why do most communistic regimes, especially those such as the Khmer Rouge, suffer famines and persecute their agricultural class for ANY disobedience? There's your answer. They simply believe them to be less subordinate and more subhuman in both respects due to the fact that they are a self-sufficient people.
This is a great example of why Canadians can’t be taken seriously
The Dutch government said for now the changes would be on a voluntary basis…in the future they will seize the land, the gov will probably pay the farmers, but it’s still seizing the land.
My family escaped Ukraine around that time. The famine was not Russian fault, it was communism's fault.
Everything about farmers is anti-left. The large majority of my extended family are legit farmers and ranchers living out on the range and putting in 60-80 hour weeks (often working 7 days/week in busy season) with no frills, no perks, no bonuses just hard, hard, long hours of outdoor work and back breaking physical labour...... and they love it and take great pride in what they do. Again, very anti-left.
I think I’m going to throw in my hot take on this before I watch the video. My perspective on this solidified when I watched a corpo ad for some product a couple months ago. To be fair the ad didn’t have the ‘usual’ soulless corpo art style, it was a fairly imaginative setting obviously designed to be reminiscent of ghibli. There was a ‘racially ambiguous’ character in the countryside with cartoony futuristic blimps floating all around. The person who retweeted it said something about it being paradise, the perfect leftist utopia where everyone is ‘insert ambiguous skin tone’ and ‘vaguely working but really just chilling the whole time’. It horrified me because I realized the realization of their worldview isn’t overcoming harsh realities, but shaping reality to their whim. Leftists hate farmers because farmers are close to the land, and they are always on the end of society farthest from independence because they hate it and long for opportunities to feed their souls to the machine.
It was so funny reading all the bullshit discussions under that tweet. These Solar punk / rural futurist utopia animations have existed for decades, and now people lose their shit over them.
I'm going to have to look into this. I understand that farming has an environmental impact but often it's overblown to a ridiculous degree. North American elk are extirpated from 98% of their native habitat due to agricultural interests, and much of their native range has been totally transformed. Yet elk aren't on the ESA, and aren't in any danger of becoming extinct. Agricultural interests often put extreme pressure on native habitat, and the fauna that live in them without actually putting them in danger of extinction. Are these marshlands not extensive enough that they can't handle the pressures of agriculture? Are they in danger of being wiped out? Is there literally no other viable remedy?
Those numbers sound off, no way its 98%, unless its 98% of their *original* land and now they just live in wilderness where they didn't used to be
All that rhetoric against Kulaks reminds me of the rhetoric against "privileged" people.
‘What we are very proud of now is the young generation like Prime Minister Trudeau, president of Argentina and so on, is that we penetrate the cabinets.' - Klaus Schwab
Well, that's what it is.
eh what i saw from the general left on the protests was on the police shooting
and it was just
-oh they deserve it
-about time
-deserved
-good
The left is evil
I'm quite interested in seeing these people suffer a Sparrow Famine. As a treat.
The left is one of the biggest sources of moral and ideological insanity that I have ever witnessed in my life.
They love the police until they dont.
They love workers until tehy dont.
They love the supreme court until they dont.
They love LGBTQ until they dont
They love black people until they dont
Its fucking insanity. Degenerate insanity.
Pretty much anyone who has ever uttered the phrase "Workers of the World unite" has nothing but disdain for those workers.
Pol pot was right, besides the genocide. The ultimate divide is rural vs urban. The rural feeds the urban and on the face, the urban is parasitic on the rural only if the urban does not give back to the rural such as medicine, machinery, education etc. The urban also tends to develope parallel or even opposite world views that usually get pushed onto the rural. At that point when the urban become parasitic and oppressive over the rural, stiff opposition or civil war is likely to happen.
The same applies to women being the privileged parasitic class who has nothing but hatred and envy towards the men who does all the work of building and mantaining civilization.
Too right, mate
Got a source?
This divide has existed for over a thousand years: even back in ancient Greece, it was very common for urbanites to view physical labor (farming and craftsmanship included) as not only degrading but as an outright poison that slowly corrupts the mind. Considering what their philosophers' ideology was (total rejection of anything related to the physical or feelings in pursuit of what they viewed as a form of enlightenment by engaging in pure abstract thinking), it's not really a surprise. Every society had a strong divide between grounded physical laborers and detached intellectuals who thought themselves superior.
I mean, BLM will literally burn their local food stores, then complain they live in a food desert. Marxists don't understand food logistic AT ALL.
Jesus, that article's headline: "...while farmers do exact opposite of their jobs..."
Yeah, no shit...that's what a strike is.
I’m a right leaning person. I was aware of the Indian farmers protest. It was nowhere near as noteworthy as the Dutch farmers one because it was essentially a disagreement on what would be the best way to feed the country rather than it was with the Dutch, the government trying to mandate a large percentage of the people out of work and land
Disagreement on how the system should work ultimately ending rather quick with the government backing off once they find its really unpopular vs government wanting to crush the industry and only pushing harder as their method gets less popular.
It’s a wonder why one is seen as more extreme than the other
It might be best to have a replacement that is demonstrably an improvement (meaning better yield less pollution) BEFORE banning the current stuff. Same problem with green power and green agriculture, it's easy to see how current solutions cause harm but not so easy to find better solutions to implement.
@@09f9 But as pointed out in the video, the farmers have already dropped their nitrogen pollution by 30%. Their government is seizing their land to sell it to the WEF. This is not about pollution.
@@cherokeevolfusa2891 i know they are threating the farmers into selling land (because thats not awful) but i don't think they are selling it on to the WEF. like the WEF are awful in there own right but they are not the centre of everything. though if you have a link for it please do send.
Their goal is to reduce the population thats why they only use rug pull tactics
@@thetreelander7378 I dont gotta send you a link. You just gotta pay attention and see the WEF is always involved, directly or otherwise
@@guilhermehank4938 you don't i was asking if you could, but you sound like a nut left or right.
As I've pointed out in other videos:
The problem the Netherlands claims to have with the farmers is Nitrogen Run-off.
This is because nitrogen is an aspect that can cause algae (and other plants) to grow. Like a fertilizer. In fact, it's one of the main reasons to HAVE fertilizer, so you can replenish the nitrogen in the soil.
What is the other problem facing the farms today?
A fertilizer shortage.
GEE, if only there was a way of taking the nitrogen-rich run-off and turn it into FERTILIZER. But, that would mean that people were not actually facing a famine.
No, much better to kill 30% of the livestock and have people eat bugs.
You must eat the boogs, comrade
Every day the shifting Overton window drags dev one step closer to being a breadtuber
That is my problem with centrists they will move left over time to remain in the center.
He's literally shitting on socialism and communism in this video, wtf are you talking about?
@@borni8925 Ironically enough, I hear leftists shit on centrists for the exact opposite reason all the time. "They're too right," and yet, simultaneously, the same reason: "they won't pick a side!"
Extremists fear centrists because the former don't understand nuance and the latter do.
@@MandalorianRaider you are right, as Sfo often highlights, there is no difference between somebody a liberal and a conservative in a progressives mind.
But I must disagree with you extremists don't fear centrists, I would say they hate them for not picking a side.
But my problem is there is no real centrism if the overton window shifts.
@@borni8925 Fear and hate are often rooted in each other, or at least both rooted in a lack of understanding.
I don't think the ever shifting Overton weekend necessarily modifies every other position by default. It does necessarily shift how each of those positions is perceived though, certainly.
I quite like farming in Minecraft - would be nice to have a server to do that in.
Not everything is "just a matter of perspective" based on political ideology, Dev.
Sometimes, one side is just right. There's ALWAYS got to be a qualifier about how this is a neutral issue - it's just the RiGhToIdS manipulating the information to convince everyone they're right on this topic.
There is nothing worse than the radical, enlightened centrists -_-
Not true at all. There is no such thing as absolute rightness and it's all based on personal philosophy. Of course to someone who values individual freedoms and stuff like that sure one side may be pretty clearly right in such an instance, but not everyone thinks that way and apparently you don't understand that.
Also there's a difference between people on the right and "rightoids". Rightoids refer generally to a specific group of people who most definitely do manipulate information and say utterly moronic shit to push their own delusional agendas just as the "leftists" on the left do.
When the center has been pushed so far to the left does centrist even mean anything at this point other than "someone who stands for nothing"? Because I'm sick of pretending BLM and Antifa are anything other than conmen, violent lunatics, or ideologues. I still remember when BLM protested for Jamar Clarke who was shot by cops for attacking the paramedics trying to help the girlfriend he was just beating.
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Farmers here work hard and have high stress when a single weather change can mean they will be losing money this season and nobody gives a shit. Its kinda crazy how such valuable people are treated as an unimportant and replaceable part of what keeps us alive.
People don't go out of their way to bring up events and facts that don't directly fit with the case they are trying to make, what a ground breaking discovery my dude, you are truly a great philosopher and sociolog.
I hope you'll soon start working on physic so you'll be able to discover if water is wet and fire hot.
Yeah, SFO does love to state the obvious a lot of times, its something even his fans have to adknowledge
Yeah, Devs batting average has been slipping lately. Find myself hearing him say something and my brain automatically going "Oh, that's a dumb take" more often. Lmao
Scratch a conservative and you’ll find a man that prefers the past to any future.
Scratch a liberal and you’ll find a sneering aristocrat in waiting.
Here's an interesting bit of macabre irony.
The India Farms bill was to modernize and get more food into India's marketplaces to address the food supply issue.
What is the totally-not-communist-guys "Progressive" response to anything they dislike but can't argue against? "wHAt aBOut wORld HUNgeR?!?!?1!"
So the Commie brigade again made global hunger and starvation worse because they outright to refuse any/every intro to economics book.
I'd also disagree with the pseudo-poetic framing of trying to point out both sides being selective about which bill they support farmers around because the India bill would hurt some farmers bottom line. The Netherlands Bill is _currently_ a 'voluntary' program there the government is buying the farmers lands until 2030 in which they will simply confiscate the difference if they hadn't reduced farmland 30% by that point.
Even purely from the farmers perspective one of these bills is clearly worse than the other. Don't make _as much_ money or 30% chance your entire life is disrupted and the farm that has been in your families name for centuries is gone, by government fiat.
Tons of "No Farmers, No Food" stickers on cars here on the west coast, which I initially thought was the communist platform, but turns out was the Indian farmers slogan.
I‘ve been around farm guys my entire life. My father and his brothers, grandpa, several of my friends, my boyfriend. They just want to fucking farm. For them to LEAVE their farm and protest is a last-ditch effort to save well…their ability to farm. Also, I‘ve been around liberal city people during college all day long. Their knowledge on food production, farming, animal care etc. is simply non existing. It’s abysmal that they decide what happens on our farms. Sure, emissions are high BUT farming is literally the only industry we‘ll ever need. I mean we can stop and all go back to small-time farming for our own needs. I wouldn’t mind, I have the land and the room to raise cattle. What most people don’t get is that our families mostly sit on the same plot of land for literal centuries. We’ve seen empires rise and fall and farmed through it all.
Our understanding of soil has funnily enough gone to foolhardy false wisdom some time in the 30's with the mass adoption of NPK and more recently people are starting to realize the system that functioned for thousands of years using grazing animals and emulating migratory patterns isn't only better, but necessary given events like the dustbowl when topsoil died and blew away.
That said, they have the right problems but the wrong solutions and absolute worst implementation of them. If what they're implemented is even really intended to solve the problem. More likely not. See Joe Salatin.
I am a Canadian farmer and the amount of things Canada does to shut us down is amazing.
I have been working since I was 9 as have most of the people I know have been. The only reason i am not working right now is because I have a disability that has shown itself in recent years. But even now, I still work the 10-12 hour days whenever I can because almost all of the support systems that are basically necessary for extremely rural farms to survive have either been taken away or changed to the point where it hurts us.
I am right leaning politically and I knew about what was happening in India. It was being talked about.
You forgot to mention that there are already innovations available that can reduce nitrogen emissions by 70%, this was discussed in parliament in a debate between van der Plas (BBB) and Paternotte (D66). However, Paternotte (farmer hater) doesn't like that and thinks we should get rid of farmers anyway. Even though this would be cheaper. This proves that it is NOT about nitrogen at all, but about being good lapdogs to the WEF and the EU.
Furthermore, if you correct nitrogen output for actual food output, you can see that the Netherlands is by far one of the cleanest countries in Europe.
Also, we need to understand that nature is not some damsel in distress that needs a big and strong politician to save her. If certain species die, because of environmental changes, others will take their place. It's not like the world turns into the Sahara desert or something
0:30 the thing you get wrong here is that the farmers don't "believe" the government wants their land. They know it, because it ALREADY HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES.
I feel like there's a better way to go about decreasing nitrogen emission than shutting down 30% of farms.
Ah yes, the ecological changes that could damage some local rare bogs and cause some extinctions probably unless nature adapts
or
Starving to death.
This is definitely a balanced issue with equal outcomes and the answer surely lies somewhere in the middle.
As a 30 year old farmer in America, we have made leaps and bounds to be better stewards of the land.
We now use less aggressive tillage practices to prevent soil erosion, do less passes across the field, and spray less than we ever have. We also use nitrogen inhibitors that help the nitrogen bond to the soil, meaning chances of the nitrogen leaching (or being lost) are greatly reduced.
You won’t hear about many of these things in the mainstream.