Interesting video with 2 great options. I think option 1 is best, however I’d probably take the linen cupboard out and make it the doorway to the bathroom so you don’t need to walk all through the house to get to the bathroom from the bedrooms
In both options there seems to me, to be relatively remote access to the single bathroom from the bedrooms. In the night, trips to the bathroom will require traversing several rooms, equally, if guests are over and someone in bed wants to go to the bathroom they will have to walk through the 'public' areas to get there. Might a tweaked option 1 with a revised access point to the bathroom by sacrificing the linen cupboard and altering the bathroom layout address this? I have to say right here, it's always much easier to tweak a good design that someone has already done than come up with a the original idea, so hats off to your sir and overall, it's a vote for option 1 from me.
In the ideal world both options would have a second WC, but it’s more space and money. Option 1 shower room could be accessed via the bedroom hallway but its layout would need to be larger to allow for the space required around a shower. The regs require 1500mm
Really struggling to see genuine vfm in either option so I'd be looking at moving. I'm also genuinely shocked by your stated average build cost of £3.5k psm, albeit that was across the UK and I'm in the north. That puts a 200sqm house at c£700k which is way above what a new build is selling for up here.
I am afraid I do not like either option sorry. I feel the kitchen is too compromised and cramped in the first option, and the 2nd option the bedrooms are cramped and I don't like the way they are accessed. It looks like they have plenty of room in the roof I would have put the two bedrooms up there. I would have sectioned off part of the lounge for a staircase. I have a bungalow with a side entrance in a similar configuration, I have had the wall between the kitchen and lounge removed and a 3 m extension to the rear, all open plan, I have not done the loft conversion yet, but in my case it had already had a conversion in the past ( apparently an optional extra when the house was built in the 1950s) I just need to have it refitted to meet modern day standards and add an emsuite bathroom.
Option one but you should consider having access to the only bathroom from the bedroom side instead of having the linen cupboard. I cant imagine anyone would want to walk through the living room and kitchen at night to use the toilet. With this impressive budget, would it not just be easier to sell and buy something more suitable?
Interesting property where the requirements are problematic. I looked at both options and the bathroom size and location bothered me in both, so I have thought how I would change and what compromise I could make. For me the living room area can be more of a snug, so I would use option 2 and make these tweaks: 1) Living room - > bedroom 2, 2) Bedroom 2 to the living room, 3) main family bathroom in the dining room corner, 4) bedroom 3 becomes the principle bedroom accessed via the yellow new walls highlighted for the utility and old bathroom is an ensuite to bedroom 1. As no doors are on the central wall out of the kitchen, I would not probably have the breakfast bar but the dining room and some seating in the replacement conservatory area.
I prefer option 1 but would add a pocket door make the bedrooms/private area more private and put the tv on opposite wall and the sofa facing the TV. I think makes the space cosier and people can interact better.
I think you may have a bit of a misunderstanding about some of the English building regulations there. Those internal space standards that you keep referring to - whilst I acknowledge them being good practice, they do not actually apply/or are mandatory to extensions and renovation works of an existing dwelling. They are for new build homes and buildings that are creating/converting to residential from another use class.
From a client's point of view, it's hard to justify spending more on Option 1 just to accommodate a new entrance and kitchen, whereas Option 2 has better value for money as I can fit in two usable rooms at a cheaper cost, which can then be put in to finishes for those said rooms. However, looking purely from the layouts, I prefer Option 1 as the spaces flow better. Option 2 has some awkward zones like the bedrooms facing the kitchen and main door and the breakfast bar that sits right outside the entrance to the only bathroom of the house.
I think I would not change anything if I don't need to. Far to much for one extra bedroom. My idea. Extend the garage and adjust the kitchen so that there is a shared hallway to the back entrance. Convert the garage to a bedroom and do nothing else. (I mean move the kitchen doorway to next to the wall that is shared with the bathroom.) Might not get a big layout change, but most of the budget doesnt have to be spent then. A modest plan that gives 1 extra bedroom. Alternately take advantage of the long wall where windows can be. Step 1. extend the back of the house to be flush to where the existing garage ends for the entire back wall. The garage exit will need to be changed to the rear not the side. Step 2 The now extended space where the kitchen was occupied can be Bedroom 4. The existing rear entry can be a corridor to the living dining kitchen space which now runs from the extended back (with french doors into the garden) to where the current sitting room ends. Off this corridor is bedroom 4 and the corridor into the other rooms. Step 3 the current bathroom can be moved to next to where the rear door is (with a window added) and bedrooms 2 and 3 can be extended, removing the current front door. You do not need two side entrances. You now have a living dining kitchen with 1 rear light source, and four good size bedrooms, you dont lose the garage. You keep the bathroom. The Tesco test is failed because you have to walk into the centre of the house. But you get better room sizes and can likely include boiler, washer dryer in a utility section next to the bathroom as well, if you only extend bedroom 3 to the end of the existing entrance and utilise (no pun intended) the old bathroom.
Great channel, very informative about everything regarding the whole process of renovation/extensions....design 1 with the split between living and bedrooms gets my vote. Do you have any videos or advice for small extensions ? I have had a look through your channel, in fact I have had a look everywhere and haven't found small design extensions.... like adding an extra 1.5m to one downstairs room as an extension? am I just being ridiculous for wanting so little?
I don't like either tbh because building a 4-bedroom house with just one tiny bathroom (accessed from the entrance hall in Option 1, no less), should be considered a crime. So UK building regulations prescribe how many parking spaces should be per bedroom but not how many bathrooms?
I definitely prefer Option 01, the clear delineation between the private and public spaces is always a welcome design choice. The long entrance corridor, when personalised will work as a good transition between the street and indoors and the storage along it would be very useful. I’d consider a trip roof light along the entrance wall above the storage units to add some drama. The only criticism I have of this option is the fact that the shower has to be accessed by going all around the kitchen. I’d consider separating the shower and toilet and having a shower access closer to the bedrooms, or reducing the size of the adjacent bedroom, changing the access to the shower to the corridor leading to the bedroom and using the added space to create a linen storage. If it were possible to have 1 1/2 bath with a guest toilet off to the entrance corridor and a toilet shower combination with a separate linen store off the bedroom corridor, I’d take that.
Hi. Interesting video, thanks. I do wonder if going back to looking at going upstairs would be best here, but without the extension. The main struggle seems to be lack of floorspace, resulting in small bedrooms or small living spaces in either option. A hip to gable and rear dormer (a pet hate of mine, but needs must!) would be likely similar in cost to the extension shown, maybe less.. If in England (I confess, rules might be different in Scotland and i dont know where the house is) then these would not require planning permission as long as the volume increase is under 50 cubic metres. Only issues are fitting the stairs etc. Ps. Love this channel, i find it interesting how in most cases you're trying to work with the existing house, which is probably the best way.
Neither option would be any good. I think the kitchen and dining area should be separate from the living area and then the bedrooms should be separate from those. Also losing the garage would be aassive negative as i put my car in the garage.
Why do you want people to walk into you kitchen when youve been cooking fish. 🙃🙃🙃 Ypu dont want the kichen to be rhe entrance at all unless you never cook anything youself
Interesting video with 2 great options. I think option 1 is best, however I’d probably take the linen cupboard out and make it the doorway to the bathroom so you don’t need to walk all through the house to get to the bathroom from the bedrooms
That is feasible but I think the shower would need more space because the regs require 1500mm space at a shower.
In both options there seems to me, to be relatively remote access to the single bathroom from the bedrooms. In the night, trips to the bathroom will require traversing several rooms, equally, if guests are over and someone in bed wants to go to the bathroom they will have to walk through the 'public' areas to get there. Might a tweaked option 1 with a revised access point to the bathroom by sacrificing the linen cupboard and altering the bathroom layout address this? I have to say right here, it's always much easier to tweak a good design that someone has already done than come up with a the original idea, so hats off to your sir and overall, it's a vote for option 1 from me.
In the ideal world both options would have a second WC, but it’s more space and money. Option 1 shower room could be accessed via the bedroom hallway but its layout would need to be larger to allow for the space required around a shower. The regs require 1500mm
Really struggling to see genuine vfm in either option so I'd be looking at moving. I'm also genuinely shocked by your stated average build cost of £3.5k psm, albeit that was across the UK and I'm in the north. That puts a 200sqm house at c£700k which is way above what a new build is selling for up here.
I am afraid I do not like either option sorry. I feel the kitchen is too compromised and cramped in the first option, and the 2nd option the bedrooms are cramped and I don't like the way they are accessed.
It looks like they have plenty of room in the roof I would have put the two bedrooms up there.
I would have sectioned off part of the lounge for a staircase. I have a bungalow with a side entrance in a similar configuration, I have had the wall between the kitchen and lounge removed and a 3 m extension to the rear, all open plan, I have not done the loft conversion yet, but in my case it had already had a conversion in the past ( apparently an optional extra when the house was built in the 1950s) I just need to have it refitted to meet modern day standards and add an emsuite bathroom.
Option one but you should consider having access to the only bathroom from the bedroom side instead of having the linen cupboard. I cant imagine anyone would want to walk through the living room and kitchen at night to use the toilet. With this impressive budget, would it not just be easier to sell and buy something more suitable?
Good option but lack of second bathroom for 4 bedroom house is not ideal
Interesting property where the requirements are problematic. I looked at both options and the bathroom size and location bothered me in both, so I have thought how I would change and what compromise I could make. For me the living room area can be more of a snug, so I would use option 2 and make these tweaks: 1) Living room - > bedroom 2, 2) Bedroom 2 to the living room, 3) main family bathroom in the dining room corner, 4) bedroom 3 becomes the principle bedroom accessed via the yellow new walls highlighted for the utility and old bathroom is an ensuite to bedroom 1. As no doors are on the central wall out of the kitchen, I would not probably have the breakfast bar but the dining room and some seating in the replacement conservatory area.
I prefer option 1 but would add a pocket door make the bedrooms/private area more private and put the tv on opposite wall and the sofa facing the TV. I think makes the space cosier and people can interact better.
I think you may have a bit of a misunderstanding about some of the English building regulations there.
Those internal space standards that you keep referring to - whilst I acknowledge them being good practice, they do not actually apply/or are mandatory to extensions and renovation works of an existing dwelling. They are for new build homes and buildings that are creating/converting to residential from another use class.
From a client's point of view, it's hard to justify spending more on Option 1 just to accommodate a new entrance and kitchen, whereas Option 2 has better value for money as I can fit in two usable rooms at a cheaper cost, which can then be put in to finishes for those said rooms.
However, looking purely from the layouts, I prefer Option 1 as the spaces flow better. Option 2 has some awkward zones like the bedrooms facing the kitchen and main door and the breakfast bar that sits right outside the entrance to the only bathroom of the house.
Option 2 is better to me but I just think a four bedroom house should always have two bathrooms or at least 1.5.
I agree, option 2 is let down by its small bathroom. A separate WC would be ideal but it’s more money and space
I think I would not change anything if I don't need to. Far to much for one extra bedroom.
My idea. Extend the garage and adjust the kitchen so that there is a shared hallway to the back entrance. Convert the garage to a bedroom and do nothing else. (I mean move the kitchen doorway to next to the wall that is shared with the bathroom.)
Might not get a big layout change, but most of the budget doesnt have to be spent then. A modest plan that gives 1 extra bedroom.
Alternately take advantage of the long wall where windows can be.
Step 1. extend the back of the house to be flush to where the existing garage ends for the entire back wall. The garage exit will need to be changed to the rear not the side.
Step 2 The now extended space where the kitchen was occupied can be Bedroom 4. The existing rear entry can be a corridor to the living dining kitchen space which now runs from the extended back (with french doors into the garden) to where the current sitting room ends. Off this corridor is bedroom 4 and the corridor into the other rooms.
Step 3 the current bathroom can be moved to next to where the rear door is (with a window added) and bedrooms 2 and 3 can be extended, removing the current front door. You do not need two side entrances.
You now have a living dining kitchen with 1 rear light source, and four good size bedrooms, you dont lose the garage. You keep the bathroom.
The Tesco test is failed because you have to walk into the centre of the house. But you get better room sizes and can likely include boiler, washer dryer in a utility section next to the bathroom as well, if you only extend bedroom 3 to the end of the existing entrance and utilise (no pun intended) the old bathroom.
Could you do a terrace house next time? If even possible? Love the channel ❤️
Option 1 is my preference, very cosy
Glad you like it, I was worried the living area is too small
Great work
Thank you
Would be interesting to see you do 3D renderings of the plans in your videos.
Great channel, very informative about everything regarding the whole process of renovation/extensions....design 1 with the split between living and bedrooms gets my vote.
Do you have any videos or advice for small extensions ? I have had a look through your channel, in fact I have had a look everywhere and haven't found small design extensions.... like adding an extra 1.5m to one downstairs room as an extension? am I just being ridiculous for wanting so little?
I don't like either tbh because building a 4-bedroom house with just one tiny bathroom (accessed from the entrance hall in Option 1, no less), should be considered a crime. So UK building regulations prescribe how many parking spaces should be per bedroom but not how many bathrooms?
Option 1 has the bathroom far to far away from the bedrooms, but interesting to see.😊
I definitely prefer Option 01, the clear delineation between the private and public spaces is always a welcome design choice. The long entrance corridor, when personalised will work as a good transition between the street and indoors and the storage along it would be very useful. I’d consider a trip roof light along the entrance wall above the storage units to add some drama.
The only criticism I have of this option is the fact that the shower has to be accessed by going all around the kitchen. I’d consider separating the shower and toilet and having a shower access closer to the bedrooms, or reducing the size of the adjacent bedroom, changing the access to the shower to the corridor leading to the bedroom and using the added space to create a linen storage. If it were possible to have 1 1/2 bath with a guest toilet off to the entrance corridor and a toilet shower combination with a separate linen store off the bedroom corridor, I’d take that.
Option 1 for me.
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Option 1 totally
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Hi. Interesting video, thanks. I do wonder if going back to looking at going upstairs would be best here, but without the extension. The main struggle seems to be lack of floorspace, resulting in small bedrooms or small living spaces in either option. A hip to gable and rear dormer (a pet hate of mine, but needs must!) would be likely similar in cost to the extension shown, maybe less.. If in England (I confess, rules might be different in Scotland and i dont know where the house is) then these would not require planning permission as long as the volume increase is under 50 cubic metres. Only issues are fitting the stairs etc. Ps. Love this channel, i find it interesting how in most cases you're trying to work with the existing house, which is probably the best way.
200k for hardly anything
A vote for Option 1 from me 🙂
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Watch this follow up video I made about the number of bathrooms in the new design ua-cam.com/video/QE0zBTTp3aY/v-deo.htmlsi=gsLwSDvPAgGtHtum
So 200k for 20mtr/2 of extra living space
Neither option would be any good. I think the kitchen and dining area should be separate from the living area and then the bedrooms should be separate from those. Also losing the garage would be aassive negative as i put my car in the garage.
Why do you want people to walk into you kitchen when youve been cooking fish. 🙃🙃🙃 Ypu dont want the kichen to be rhe entrance at all unless you never cook anything youself