Ford Quick Tips #77: DTC P0460 P0463 Erratic Fuel Gauge Quick Fix!
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2017
- Come along as we show you how to quickly diagnose a common concern with fuel sending units caused by sulfur in gasoline.
Before replacing the fuel pump sending unit use this additive to restore it-
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Before replacing the fuel pump sending unit use this additive to restore it-
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Was that unit affected? If so, how many miles on?
cruisepix mine was @ 60k when started, but never got a code?
Does auto stores or Wal-Mart carry this?
Would you still use the cleaner on a 3.5 ecoboost
FordTechMakuloco I have an 09 f150 4.6 3v. I don't have any codes, however I have not been able to fill my tank fully in over six months. I can only put maybe 20 gallons (I have the 26 gallon tank) before it clicks that it's full. Do you think there is debris preventing the arm to lock out fully? I usually get over 440 miles on a full tank, lately I can only get 370.
Gotta thank you for that additive tip. It completely worked and saved me hundreds by replacing that sending unit. The first 1/2 tank, I went on a back road with no traffic, and would pump my brakes to slosh the fuel around. It started working perfectly right after that.
This stuff is great. I've used it for years. It cleans so well that it made my truck's fuel pump last 2 months before dying, allowing me to get engine and suspension done first, while still driving it. Truck started hesitating, added techron. 4 weeks before symptoms again. Repeat. Went 3 weeks. Repeat. 2 weeks, 1 week. Made appt for a new one at mechanic, fuel pump officially died when I tried to leave the shop lol. Yeah, this stuff is amazing. It may be slightly more pricey but it's worth it.
Dude I can't thank you enough I've been watching you for years, and my Ford is still running today thanks to your help.🙏🏻
Another great video packed with money saving information. The Techron worked for me. The car doesn't get driven much and the treatment worked in one tank of treated gas. Thanks!
This tip for the adding the Chevron Techron Plus fuel additive worked immediately for the problems we were having with our Ford Truck with a mustang engine. My wife and I are amazed. Mechanic wanted to replace our fuel pump - $680. We are so thankful for your helpful tips on this site. It was a God send for us.
* I would not replace the fuel pump unless the fuel pump was not working. I can live with an incorrect fuel level reading by keeping track of my mileage with my odometer.
The fuel level sending unit was sending an incorrect fuel reading and also probably causing a check engine light. Your vehicle could have been driven just the same. The fuel pump runs just the same with or without an accurate fuel level sensor.
* Do not run a fuel pump dry so fill up the gas tank and reset the odometer after each fill up.
You saved me from having to remove the fuel tank. Within 10 min my gas gauge started rising from solid empty. Within 50 miles it was back to normal. Used this product in 3 tank fulls. It's working great! THANK YOU for the video!
Hello how can i save me some money, and can you please tell me the name of it sir.
@@ernestgrey9294 chevron techron plus
It this works with diesel engines
Oct, 2022.
I drive a 2001 Focus Wagon as my daily driver 34 miles each way to work and back + piddling around town.
If it weren't for your Channel, I'd have scrapped it years ago.
The little things (like this) that are annoying AND expensive at a shop, become fun diy projects to do at home in the driveway instead.
Because of this channel, The Betty White Wagon is still going strong.
The Ol' gal just won't die.
MANY Thanks and keep up the great work!
Betty 😆
Thank you!
I ran 2 of the black bottles through my truck. The light didn’t initially go out, but about 200 miles in, it went out and after 80 miles more it was still off and passed emissions!
BerrymanB-12 part number 0116 in a round can is much better. And it's cheaper. I managed a parts store for 28 years. This saved a lot of people from buying carbs.😁Just don't add to oil it cleans it to much.
Had a P0463 on my 05 Taurus not too long ago and Techron cleared it right up. The fuel gauge would peg ever so slightly over full when the tank got over 80 - 85 % and would drop the fuel gauge below empty if it stayed pegged long enough, after the second time it would request the MIL. Read about this same problem and decided Techron would be a lot easier and cheaper than a new sending unit. Lol Glad I did.
Wow learn something new from you each time thanks for sharing
Thank you for making my search for an answer fast and easy to do!
Outstanding video sir! Bound to help a lot of people. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. You saved me hundreds of dollars. I bought Techron fuel cleaner for 5 bucks. Added it to the tank and after driving for an hour, it's gone !
I’ve been calling all auto places and can’t find Techron plus only every other one
Yay! Finally a straight answer! I've been waiting literally years for this video! Great info! :)
I can confirm that this seems to fix the issue. My mom's '08 Taurus kept having the check engine light come on with a P2068 code. I would clear it and it would go away for a few weeks and then pop up again. I noticed it seemed to only happen when the fuel was below a quarter tank. I started using the Techron additive about once every month or two and the problem stopped. It hasn't happened for about a year now.
Outstanding , fixed a 4 year old probelm , 2 treatments , 1st did the trick in about 2 hours and a short drive , the second for luck. thanks !
What instructions did you use?
@@bbeal2325 1/4 full of gas , 2 techron bottles , filled up with chevron premuim , ran about 15 minutes and needle raised to normal full position , when ready for fillup , added 1 bottle of same , filled up as normally would , gas gauge worked normally on refill , added 1 bottle every other month , this was a low milage 2004 Navigator with 38K miles , that never driven by a older gentleman in San Deigo , sat in garage a lot when I was able to bye it , but your knowledge in this matter was fantastic , thank you !
@@bbeal2325 1/4 thank of gas , 2 bottles , filled tank , needle moved up to full after a short time , ran down to 1/4 tank again and used 1 bottle and filled tank back and has never done this again since , use 1 bottle very other month and reset computer code , cheaper then Ford wanting to drop tank and replace pump by a long shot , on a very low milage 2004 Navigator that sat a long time in a garage at the coast , it does work , I was impressed , so simple.
@@Russianpaintrain did you use the 20oz bottles or the 12 oz bottles?
@@bbeal2325 Black Techron bottle , it is 10 oz. , black cap part # 38726 , 15 gallons of gas per 10 oz. bottle.
it worked ... in no time... gotta say thank you and just wow engine light went out and all... far out!!
Wow, you're truly a life saver and a blessing. Thank you so much for sharing your amazing knowledge with us, and helping people like myself avoid paying unreasonable money that does not necessarily need spending! Thank you so much!!! I hope your subscribers reach more than a million.
Did it work for you?
Thanx alot. I cant tell you how mant videos ive watched and people leave out detail and get side tracked but this video was very helpful
Thank you so much 💯!!!! This actually worked for my 2013 mustang GT I got the same code and my level sensor took a dump. I added the fuel cleaner and at 1st it didnt work but surly 3 days after adding it worked again saved me tons of money THANKS AGAIN!!
OSIS_ieCoyote what’s up Brother! I have a 2014 mustang Gt and the problem I’m having is the gauge would be 3/4 full and the digital cluster tells me I have 290 miles to empty!.. we both know that’s not true with these v8’s lol you think this will help?
Thanks for the great tip. Had this issue in my wife's 09 Escape
Put in 1 bottle, cleared the code & took it for a ride. Got on a back road & started turning the wheel back & forth. To slosh the fuel in the tank & the low fuel warning went off & the gauge started going up to full. Saved me $100 & making my wife's car smell like gas if I had to remove the pump.
Man 2 bottles did the trick after 7 visits to a shop nobody could fix the issue wow I'm amazed thank you
How did you put it in? Before you fill up or after?
@@bbeal2325 before and after
I was having this problem after keeping my car in storage while 5 years in Japan. Fuel level was at 1/4 full the whole time and each time it reached that level my fuel level sending unit would report an error then cause my check engine light to come on. If I didn't let the level get that low I had no problem. I am located overseas and could not get the Techron product that is referenced here, but reading the labels of several products that were available I found that the Slick50 Fuel Tank Cleaning Solution fixed my sensor exactly as explained here.
Going to give this a shot. My 2007 Expedition will reach around 142 miles until empty, and then all of the sudden it will read ---Miles to Empty, and then very gradually climb back up until it reads 60 miles until empty. The tank still has approximately 8-10 gallons remaining, because it will only take around 15 gallons to top it off. I'll post another response to let you know if it works. Also, the fuel pump was replaced about 1 year ago. Thanks for the awesome tip!
Thank you so much!! The chevron with Techron plus worked like a charm!! Now, what the best hack for just having all my 2011 f150 AC blend doors replaced and 5 months later the driver side and passenger side blend door have already stopped working again.
Really love your videos and your explanation of issues.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! You just saved me a bunch of money.
Hey man, I have a question. On ignition, sometimes my gas gauge stays on empty for a little bit and car says no fuel. Gas gauge takes like 4 minutes to rise to actual fuel levels. If I let it sit and restart it will self correct. I have an ecoboost 2015 with no mods 25k miles. I want to believe it's a sending unit. Any ideas? I'd like your two cents.
I see a can of aerokroil in the background. I love that stuff!
Excellent information. Thanks FTM
Thank you my friend you've helped me several times. I have been watching this service engine light for 2 months ran this through 2 tank fulls service engine light has been out for 2 weeks. Thank you.
And it really works. Thank you!
Just wanted to add my 2 cents: my 2020 Ford Transit 150 was always reading empty, with the check engine light/code saying something up with a sending unit. So I watch this video bought that cleaner junk he was talking about and it worked within 25 miles. Thank you!!
Your videos are very informative. My 1999 Taurus will not complete the I/M Readiness self testing because the Evap System is sensing an erratic fuel level. I have a P0460 code lurking in the background. It does not bring on the check engine light, but I can read the code with an Auto Enginuity scan tool interface. Ford Service documentation says if you have a 15% or greater fluctuation in fuel level readings, the PCM will abort the Evap test. Do you think the Anti Slosh Module inside the instrument cluster could be the problem, and do you have any videos on troubleshooting the Ford Anti Slosh Module? Thank you
Just got this same code with my 2004 P71 crown vic. Gonna try this out and see if it works ! Thank you for the tip !
GREAT video. Thank you.
I needed to know this two month ago.
The Techron High Mileage has the same additives as the Techron Concentrated Plus. Was reading the specs sheets on both.
If u have sending unit out you can physically clean the contact points.. usually works! I worked in a specialty shop for 6 years just did AC n gas tanks.. you can replace the fuel pump on that unit too, just disassemble and replace.. done it hundreds of times
Very nice explanation, thank you! My question is that after two tankfuls of the Techron additive my sending unit finally failed (2010 Explorer E-engine code) and my Miles to empty went to “0”…… is the fuel pump in jeopardy of failing next or can I continue to drive as normal and monitor my fuel consumption?
Thank you for posting this Tech tip, hopefully it works on my 1997 F-250HD dual tank system and one tank gauge that works sometimes.
Great info bro.
Man this an awesome video on how it operates my 06 started doing the erratic fuel gauge indication with check engine light .I almost spent $$$ but I will try the Techron additive first thanks ! Keep up the good work !
Did it work for you?
Awesome video. Going to test mine soon.
Question: my truck takes some time to read full after filling up and sometimes drops off back to empty even when full. could this be one of the symptoms of a bad card on the sending unit or dirty when it goes back and forth.
Wow, great video, THANK YOU 🙏 for this information, especially the test part, very helpful.
Once again a great video.
I have a question.
I have a Lincoln Aviator 4.6 4v It has blown 3 Cam Position Sensors I replaced the alternator.
I am at a loss.
Thanks
This apparently worked for a 2002 Taurus. I filled the tank and added one ounce per gallon. Although I had the luxury of being able to let the car sit for days on end over the course of a couple of weeks, the fuel gauge now works and the check engine light is still off. Thank you.
I blame myself for allowing my tank to go so low of gas that the chime alarmed and got "
low fuel" notice on the odometer, but I wanted to wait to get good Mobil gas in the tank as always. I put in 20 gallons, but the needle only went up to 1/4 full. I believe it is the float that went too low, it's maybe not coming up, or just getting a bad reading. I will use Chevron Techron Plus a couple times in hopes things will get back to normal and get good fuel level readings.
I watch your videos all the time and I just want to say Thank You !
excellent video great job
Awesome instruction as always, Brian.
Concise, and very professional.
?: could the sending unit manufacturer have isolated the resistor sweep from the gasoline instead of having it fully in contact with the fluid?
Inside a sealed housing for example.
No all the electrics are made to work wet, to prevent possible risks of fire, no air no fire. Been that way for decades.
It is all the guberment fuel mandates causing this.
thank you for the video repair information. i have a 2007 f150 stx crew cab and im having a leaking fuel pump pressure line problem. do you have any videos on this problem?
While driving home from work today my speedo and tach needles were fluctuating irraddicly, 4x4 hi and lo lights were flashing on and off (not constant, but like once a minute) as well as the battery light. Checked my alternator and I got 14.38 to 14.64v with the truck running. Checked for codes and got a p0462 fuel level sensor circuit low input. Would that cause the instrument cluster to act like I described?
Thanks for sharing knowelede!
I was experiencing erratic fuel gauge on a 2000 F-150 5.4 truck. The truck has a 24 gallon tank and a single bottle from Auto Zone says to add up to twelve gallons gas so I did my best to add to half tank-no fuel gauge fix. A few fill ups later, I did 2 bottles in a full 24 gallon tank. Fuel gauge worked properly almost right away and is working fine since. Since this product comes in several sizes, my advice is to buy the size that will be a good ratio to add to a full tank, which for me is 2 bottles.
Would this issue cause a recurring P2068 code? Seems to happen about every 6 months or so on my mom's '08 Taurus. The gauge reads perfectly fine and is accurate.
There may not be any corrosion on the resistor but the wires connecting to the resistor may be causing haywire readings due a problem in the wire or solder.
I have a 2005 Ford Explorer xlt with the 4.0 sohc and is has 177k miles. My fuel gauge hasn’t worked since 60k miles always used the odo trip meter as a fuel gauge. The issue that I’m having is that it pegs below E when you turn the key on and never rises no matter what I do. I dropped the tank. Pain in the a** if you don’t have a lift to work on. But I managed to get everything out without an issue. I removed the fuel pump assembly and decided to ohm check the sender just for the heck of it and it worked as it should. I went on with some more testing trying to fool the gauge into thinking that the tank was full with the two wires that run to the gauge with no luck there either. So with my luck and the vehicle having 177k miles I decided to put a new fuel pump in it since the harness was still accessible for further testing and put it all back together. I also checked another instrument cluster thinking it could be the gauge with no luck there either also pegged below E with the other instrument cluster. I did numerous tests including a gauge sweep and that’s the first time I’ve ever seen the gauge function and it brought me hope that it could be a simple fix hopefully you can help me out or point me into the right direction. The only codes that I got for it was a p0463 and the message for that was fuel level sensor A high input. And a B1201-00 and the message for that was fuel gauge sender circuit open or short to battery. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Hi- I have a 2006 mustang that just started giving me this problem where the fuel gauge drops down to empty and then back up slowly. I have changed the cluster panel, fuel pump, passenger fuel pump module and used the Techron Plus. Still having this problem, any idea what to try next?
Thank you for putting this video together. My sons 2001 F350 7.3 fuel gauge is always showing full. We will try this. I did find a sending unit from Advance Auto if we need to order it for 132.00 if we need to order one. Beats 400 -600 dollars.
I was mistaken, The sending unit that I found may not fit. Looking at what unit is in a 2001 does not have the same unit you shown in this video.
I'm driving a Lincoln mark LT. And I had a new stereo put in. The next day I got a code po463 from check engine. Is it a problem from that or something more serious?
I have a question about my 2017 Ford F550. When I put it in reverse, all of my dome lights come on. Do you have a video for this are any experience with it. Also, thank you for this video. It worked for my fuel gauge not responding correctly.
Brian - Aloha's Bruddah!! Hey man, do you have a video on suspected erroneous MPG readout on a 2009 Ford F150 or same Gen or similar vehicles?
-- Even after resetting the KMA several times the MPG value works it way back to display about 12.8 MPG and stays there. I have seen it at 12.6 (once) but it went back to 12.8 and remained.
-- Any ideas suggestions would be appreciated. I just can't trust the 12.8 MPG b/c I backed it up with 3 separate tank fill-ups to different levels and got varying MPG values.
Hello! I put in the Chevron Fuel system cleaner in my 2001 Ford Expedition and the gauge is reading normal again. Thank you for the tip!
2002 Expedition fuel gauge started being erratic then quit working altogether----no codes-----just a gauge that reads empty and a low fuel light. The fuel pump/sending unit assembly was replaced 2 years ago. Tried two tanks with the correct amount Techron each time for the amount of gasoline. Gauge still on empty. Unhooked the wiring at the plug back by the tank and hooked up the old pump/sending unit. Gas gauge works like it should. Any thoughts or do I have to drop the tank again to change the sending unit?
Had the fuel pump go out in a 1999 Ford Expedition. I replaced the pump assembly, everything went smoothly, but the guage still reads erratically. It's unreliable to know the fuel level. Any further ideas on the cause?
Quick question I use sea foam can I still add the Techtron additive to my fuel tank ?
Is P0268 the same..I added the techron the light went away for 5 days then came back when the gas level dropped below 1/4. Since then its somewhat erratic...
Thanks for the tip.
Is the setup & fix the same for a Ford 450
E-Series Turbo Diesel Bus ... or is this fix only for Ford gas vehicles?
Great tip
So... it's basically a flaw in the fuel pump design? Okay, got it! 😊👍
Thanks man! Worked
Quick Question, have a 2013 ford edge that gave me the same code. Fuel guage stops working when it reaches half way. Vehicle has roughly 65,000kms. Is there an access panel for the pump from the inside? Or do I have to drop the tank. Just incase the Techron solution doesn't work
Hey, awesome video, mi 01 explorer suddenly went from have a tank to full, and no matter how many fuel is in the tank it just reads full, could it be something else apart from the fuel sending unit?
Had the P0462 code in my van and the fuel gauge drop and rise intermittently only at a certain level in the tank so hopefully this will clear the issue up. Thanks for the tip. As an aside, I couldn't find 'Plus", only Complete Fuel System cleaner which I'm hoping is the same thing.
ever worked for you?
Thanks dude!!!!
Curious does different fuel octane create more of the problem or is it pretty much the same with all
Hi,
Question: The fuel pump on my 2005 ford expedition 5.4L XLT 3v
was replaced about year ago because the original went bad. The issues I'm having with the new pump is:
1. The fuel guage needle does not go all the way to full or passes the last marker on the gas guage. It used to do it before the new pump was replaced.
2. I now hear a thumping sound coming from the fuel tank when i shut the car off / parked after driving around for 30 to 1 hr.
Is this a sign that the pump going bad again? Or can it be something else?
3. My digital MPG guage on my dash cluster is jumping around like crazy when driving. It goes from 13 mpg to 16 mpg in less then one mile. Then it jumps around from 13 to 14 then to 14.5 then back to 15. All in less then a mile. Is this part of the pump? Or something else.
Any information will helpful.
Thanks
Hey! So this worked while we were running it through the tank but as soon as we put just gasoline in it, the gauge dropped back down to E and the gas light is back on. Is it okay to run this through the tank for a few more tanks?
Hi Brian do you know the sulphur content for the various grades of unleaded in the US? In Australia the unleaded is supposed to be one of the worst in the world for sulphur@150ppm for regular unleaded and 50ppm for premium unleaded.High sulphur fuel is bad for catalytic convertor efficiency and life. Thanks for more great info.
Hey Fordtech! Have you ever seen all of the instrument cluster go completely bizerk in a 2000 Windstar. Mine ocassionally move so violently that the RPM needle has broken. Thanks!
hey Fordtechmakuloco! I just wanted to thank you for this great tips! my expeditions fuel gauge wasn't working so I followed your tips & after a first treatment it fixed my issue! Thanks!
Great info. I will get some as a preemptive. I need some clarification on a question I ask you. I have a 2009 Mercury Mariner 2.5. This engine does not have a pcv I need to replace at a certain mileage? I guess I misread my schedule maintenance manual. I thought it said change around one hundred thousand miles. I do not want to put the intake unless I need to. Please kept the great videos coming. Thank you, J
Very helpful thank you very much
Hey what to use for a diesel 6.0 with P0460 code?????????
That’s what I would like to know . I went to the manufacturer website and they say don’t use this in a Diesel engine !
All Gas models between MY 19XX - 20XX ????? Or just specific models/years? Does erratic mean simply non accurate gauge reading? Like filling up at the pump but only showing 1/2 full, routinely?
Would you recommend trying this for a 00' f650 7.3, Allison 545? The fuel gauge stays stuck on full. No codes. Worked for half a day last week. Odometer and speedometer have now stopped as well. Speedometer may be Allison related.
Great video very helpful thanks
I have 2016 ford fusion se, I sadly let myself get down to 3 miles left and now its burning fuel way faster then it should.. what could cause it to do that?
So I just replaced my fuel pump as it was time and have had the erratic fuel gauge issue for over a year now intermittently. Thought it was the sending unit all this time and just went to fill up the tank and the gauge stopped at 1/2. I noticed driving the 1 mile away I live from the pump it started to creep up a tick or 2 on the gauge but I let it idle for 5 min after on level ground and nothing changed.
And ideas what else this could be? I have no codes
05 five hundred. Inst. Cluster lighting up like Christmas tree. Check eng. Abs. Airbag. Etc Including Throttle body light which I replaced with a brand new unit just a couple months ago. I think the cluster is malfunctioning. Any recommendations?
My 2012 Expedition EL had the fuel Gauge stuck at half a tank. Do you miles till empty originally read 238. After filling up the car, the fuel gauge dropped below empty and the miles till empty showed three dashes. Could what you described in this video be the problem?
Hopefully this works, I don't have a code though. Can you do a quick video on PA proximity sensors, please? None of em are working. Thanks for the videos!
I appreciate all the great videos. I have a 2013 Ford F150 with similar issues BUT a bigger problem is the vehicle shutting down when i come to a STOP. I get a LOW OIL PRESSURE as the engine dies however, I think that's just because the engine died and caused the LOP notification. I never know when its going to happen. The amount of fuel makes no difference, it happens no matter how much fuel I have. Have you had an opportunity to address this? Again, thank you for so much valuable info. Bill
Bill mine is doing this now did it work?
when my fuel gauge get just under a half tank it starts to drop quick and then sometimes comes back up later , Is this the same thing you are talking about ?
Did you ever try this?
Mine does the same, sometimes throws the 460 and 463 code. Gonna have to try the fuel additive
@@justthetibb1569 did it work? I have the same issue, but my car is jacked up in the rear, as in on Jack stands not that it's fucked up.
2000 v6 mustang. owned since new. never had a problem with it until the fuel pump was replaced almost 2 years ago. it drops to empty with the low fuel light at a quarter tank. no codes though. I'll try the techron
Did this work?. ...I have a 2006 Saturn ion I just replaced the fuel pump and it's a quarter off
I've got a PO463 on my 2005 Ford Explorer. Will this work on older cars? Any issues with stuff breaking down and staying in gas tank? Thanks for the video.
Now I have a parasitic drain on my battery and this light had just came on my batteries been draining for a bout 2 weeks I have to continuously jump it I had put a brand new battery and replace the alternator and it still drains my battery and in about 5 hours and sometimes overnight My feel gauge just now acted up and check engine light came on with this po463 Could it be my cluster
Worked for me. I didn't have any codes but my fuel guage would never read all the way full on a full tank. At halfway it would jump to "E" and the Info system would say I only had 7 miles to empty. After using Techron Concentrate Plus the guage and info system corrected itself within like ten minutes. Reads good. No longer overflows at the pump.
What instructions did you follow to put it in?