Jack The Ripper Murder Locations - Then and NOW 4K
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Join us as we explore the Jack the Ripper Murder Locations in Whitechapel London.
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I love how you insert the old photos over the current locations. You always line them up so perfectly.
yes he is the best
often, my favorite part of the videos
8:04 read your comment then I double checked, sure nuff he lined photos to SIDEWALK BRICKS from furthest point in B&W image to bricks remain today 👍..nice! Definite talented. This couple are BOTH good at what they do cuz they love their job. This channel is preferable to any HISTORY TRAVEL CHANNEL fluff ...Netflix outta offer em some sorta deal.
@@1badjesus he is the best
I love that too! The Grimms are legit!
When I was growing up I remember being told by my English grandparents that they believed Jack The Ripper was a policeman and he had his knife engineered into a police truncheon, being a policeman gave the impression of trust and the ability to hide in plain sight. Great video, thanks again Mr & Mrs Grimm.
Rubbish !! Walter Sickert was the killer
@@zakjuly6721 Tell me, how did he escape when he was supposedly cornered? Did he just jump 40 feet over the buildings?
@zakjuly6721 It's extremely plausible that he was an officer. The killer/rapist from the early 70's in California was an officer as well. I believe he was called the night stalker.
Charles Lechmere (the man who "found" the body of the first official victim) is the most likely of the known suspects.
It's likely the killer was a nobody, as most serial killers are.
I'm a London taxi driver I used to do the Jack the ripper tour, you have done really well with this video, regards Richard London UK 🇬🇧
You, dont speak like an English man?
How far apart are the locations? When i visit london i want to visit the locations
@@theshield2207 All murder location's within 10 min's walk!
@@lesliemccaghy9611thanks!
@richard9444 @@lesliemccaghy9611 you guys, have you ever experienced anything paranormal there? Any thing from sounds to feelings, etc?
The main reason it has changed so much is the fact that the area was bombed so heavily during WW2.
Fascinating. My mother was a homecare assistant visiting old people in their houses. During the seventies, she cared for an old lady who lived to be hundred and she remembers talk of jack the ripper . She would have been about twenty at the time.she told us that she remembered hearing about it. Old people are living history books.
Absolutely and when they're gone or going it ends people knowing it first hand
@@shonacole2124 Yeah, that says itself of course. But very very sad indeed. I often think this to myself.
It would be very interesting to know who he was
Yes, we can learn so much from old people. This lady had a marvelous memory even at one hundred years old
She was fascinating telling us stories about jack the ripper first hand as she was alive when it all happened. She told us that people were very scared at the time of it going on.
Jesus how old are you?
What tourists tend to be oblivious of when it comes to the "renovation" of London, is it was the Luftwaffe that helped with the "alteration" of the landscape - it wasn't called "The Blitz" for nothing.
So true. Watching this I as thinking, gosh it all looks so new and clean and modern- then I remembered that Germany paid London and few visits not so long ago.
My family had a bomb shelter in the garden, and every time they would hear the siren at night, they had to get out of bed and go into the garden. In the end my great grandad refused and just said ‘if they’re gonna get me, I’ll die comfortable in bed’. Thankfully they were spared.
You are definitely right about that and as a matter of fact another famous structure that was destroyed during the Blitz, over in France the infamous apartment room that was once rented by Vincent van Gogh, was destroyed during the blitz.
The same thing happened in Germany, too. Whole cities were annihilated. It's sad that countries ever go to war.
Blitz means lightening
The craziest thing is that back then the East end of London was incredibly poor, literally the lowest of the low. Today it is probably one of the most expensive areas to live in the entire world, with properties starting at half a million pounds a pop and basic terrace houses a million pounds a pop. Insane how things can change. Great video and new viewer!
Indeed!
That was my thought when they showed the Almshouses. How much are they worth now, I'm sure theyre not used for low income families anymore.
It is interesting how things have changed. I visited the UK back in 1999 and then about 6 months later in the Millennium year of 2000. Accidentally I was pointed to and I got on the wrong train line in the Victoria station. That particular incorrect train line, took me out to whitechapel. And I got to be honest with you the Whitechapel that I saw in 1999 and in the year 2000 did not look anything like what I'm seeing today on your video. So I guess they really have come up in the world as we say here in America.
@@manuellubian5709
How was white chappal different in 2000
@@RileEren I still remember Whitechapel being a little bit 'rough' back then as it is now. I hear it's even worse now.
However, the biggest difference between then versus now is that there weren't a lot of businesses closed and shunted like, there is now today.
Another thing that I don't necessarily remember seeing is that there weren't as, many people who 'bottomed out' in life and in society and who are now basically living off the streets. Didn't see very much of that when I visited back in 1999 and 2000.
I mean yes you saw a few here and there but it was not as bad as it is today. Would you agree with me or are you seeing things a little bit differently? I'm curious to know your opinion.
I'm going to be honest, every time I'm having a bad day or anxiety is killing me, I always come back to this channel as a safe place. I selfishly want more and more uploads LOL my favorite are the crime scene or killers locations. Keep up the great work!
This channel is purely magical. So much effort and care goes into the both of them remaining both respectful and responsible. The research and preparation staggers me. Two glorious souls
My dad told me once that one of my ancestors believed she was grabbed by Jack The Ripper. She never saw the mans face and managed to escape but the grip on her wrist was so strong that it left a mark which never healed. When her daughter was born, she had a similar mark around the same wrist that eventually went away. Its a story that has been passed down in my family for generations. (I'm not sure how true it is but it still gives me chills thinking about it)
You go above and beyond what others know and tell a more accurate story. Thank you so very much.
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Wow that’s amazing
Not strange. There's always some occult or super natural thing to serial killers cases.
So that’s bullshit she probably didn’t escape Jack the Ripper because once you get grabbed him it’s game over for it 2seconds to slit someone’s throat
It was so cool when the horse went past in the graveyard. That sound of the horse galloping a long will have been heard at her funeral most likely. It added so much to it. Thank you Grimmlife ❤
Jack the Rip take a tour AKA Jackie
No more than a trot on concrete if you notice,this helps avoid damaging the horses hooves and legs though I get the sentiment you intended👍
Me and my husband went on a Jack the Ripper guided tour in London in 2007. As if the narrow alleys and back yards of where some of the murders had taken place weren’t spooky enough, the fact that the tour took place at night made it even scarier. We both loved it 🫣😄
How do I find this exact tour??
I have a friend who leads the tours for one company and I believe some more of the original buildings were there in 2007 than now.
Its much better at night. I have done the night tour twice. One time it was a person who wrote a book about the Ripper. Former police who at that time was able to see some of the evidence which at least at that time was not on display anywhere. It was a huge group. He doesnt do the walk anymore. That was at least 25 yrs ago. I have done it since.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumbelow
Would of been a awesome experience
Watched it 3 times already was so good ! So surreal to think in 1888 the actual Jack the ripper stood where you were both standing and walking along the same streets. Fantastic stuff.
Just brilliant, who needs a guided tour when you have videos like this! The before and after lineups are a thing of pure wizardry. So interesting and what a pub 😳 Great channel 🙏
I absolutely love the perfect alignment of the present day & historical images. I really appreciate that detail. I like to pause to look back & forth in time 👏🏼
Seeing the old school, and the other old buildings that were there during that time is incredible. Knowing that Jack the Ripper laid his eyes upon the same buildings during his murders, possibly even being inside of some of them at some point…….. just an insane experience. You guys are simply amazing. 🙏🏻. Thank you for such dedication, you are both truly appreciated. Cheers
That school building and the surrounding area was derelict until at least the early 90's.
If you put in jack the ripper/James Mason there's a short where James walks into the back yard of where Annie chapman the second of the canonical five was murdered on Hanbury street. The back yard is exactly the same as in 1888 and this video was done in the 1960s it's pretty awesome as it's not a photo but an actual video.
Thanks for giving us pictures of the victims too. I've never seen that in any other documentaty
@@GinaDAuria Unfortunately those pictures have been doing the rounds on youtube but they are all fake. The only photo that is genuine is one of Annie chapman with her husband john chapman years before she fell into hard times. The only other photos of victims are post mortem. I'm certain of this from watching several experts on the crimes and reading several books on it. I promise you none of these photos are real.
@@GinaDAuria There's only one photo in life of any of them and that's Annie chapman with her husband john the rest are all fake. The only other photos are post mortem I know this from experts on the case like Richard Jones. I assure you they aren't real. They've just been doing the rounds on youtube for some reason.
Great video, that area was the poorest in London in 1888. Now it’s the most prime real estate in Britain worth billions of dollars.
“Commit no nuisance” on an old sign actually means “Do not urinate here”.
, nowadays you could have signs 'saying just shut up', would have similar meaning, I'd add a laughter emoji but it's too correct 👆🏻💯
The 11th Commandment.
Love this I took this tour in the early 2000s
You all need to know, there's someone impersonating you on UA-cam attempting to draw people over, using your moniker! Great show guys!
What!!! no one like these two treasures!
always been fascinated by old victorian london as my mums family is from there loads of history and still some beautiful gothic victorian buildings, i hope the souls of the victims of jack the ripper are in peace
Thank you for this video. One night, I went down an Internet rabbit hole about the murders and I too was trying to use street view to see where these places were. It's cool to see your tour of the murders. Thank you again!
SO much better then a generic tour! Thank you for this!
As an Englishman we're brought up with the tales of Jack the Ripper and as youngsters we become fascinated by it and many a playground discussion would take place on who we thought it was, the theories and the conspiracies.
Once again, another fantastic video from you guys, from start to finish. Thank you.
As an American, I imagine this being the equivalent to our "Zodiac Killer".... But with more English style folklore. The Zodiac used a gun and a knife, but went nowhere to the extremes of a Jack the Ripper.
I live about an hour away from Whitechapel I went to a Jack The Ripper museum on 12 cable street and omg I thoroughly enjoyed every second 😊
London has always been my spiritual home most of my life, and after visiting many times and taking organized and self Jack the Ripper tours. Your video brings me chills, and is one of th every best tours, because of your excellent discriptions, research, and vintage photo overlays. Thank you to both you and Jessica. Well done!
I used to live in the uk..currently live in the states and i found this like everyone has extremely heartfelt and a very well done and extremely exceptional edited and true to life video.. with the upmost respect for each and everyone involved.. one thing i want to say is..this doesn't need to be on you tube.. this needs to be broadcasted on commercial tv for everyone to see watch and learn.. gets some people from bbc...itv.. channel 4.. this guy and girl needs more recognition for there time and passion for educating us... well done guys.. i am now going to start following you.
Whitechapel is my old stomping ground.. you were so close to the flat I lived in, in my teens (20 years ago). It was still so rough and dodgy even when I lived there.. it's definitely been gentrified a lot since then!
Amazing video as always :)
The egg building you referenced is 'The Gherkin'
ya i cannot see you guys taking someone else's tour. You're original authentic peoples who follow your hearts and own interpretation of everything you interact with. That's what makes a Grimm adventure a Grimm adventure! I love your adventures and find your channel to be top-tier content and delivery xo
Im hackney born and raised plus 45 lol i remember the old whitechapel before it was built up plus i see the krays house before pulled down x
Dude I don't know why you always pop up on my feed at this time of year... But im here for it. Its good to see you
It's a Grimm life video marathon for me! ❤Love you two, you're both awesome. I've never been on any tours like this so this video helps me go with you without leaving my room.
Annie Chapman didn’t live at 29 Hanbury Street. She met a customer here who killed her in the backyard. Annie was homeless and lived in doss houses.
Annie Be less minus a Home
There’s been so many changes in London. Many of the old buildings and Ripper sites have sadly gone. I’ve done several tours over the years and gone around on my own which is the best way. It’s such a shame that they demolished historic places.
But that's what they tend to do. Maybe they wanted to wipe that part of its history
I beleive they lost a lot of the orginal Ripper sites during the Blitz. Many homes and areas in London where distroyed during the war.
@@realong2506 Redevelopment of London has done the most damage. There were lots of areas still around from the Ripper era. I remember the cobbled Streets and buildings around Mitre Square etc. I didn’t take any pictures years ago sadly, but they are well documented.
@@camrondirossi3249 London is a working City. A lot of History has gone because of so called progress. The skyline of old London has just become tower blocks and the past erased.
Aided by the Luftwaffe...
I am a direct descendant to Mary Ann Nichols and that was the first time I’ve seen a picture of her alive thank you very much as I’ve only ever seen her corpse
Hi Angie. Im 100% sure there's only one photo of the Polly as a corpse? Even though other photo's are occasionally used. There's only one original photo of Charles Lechmere/Cross the man who was seen standing with your ancestor Polly. Charles is also my direct ancestor.
@susanclapp1721 I saw a programme years ago called 'the missing evidence' where they looked at Charles Cross as a possible suspect.
Lies
@@RileErenoh wow you’re an expert on this commenter’s family lineage? Tell me more about her family’s history since you’re so sure she's not related to whom it may concern she says.
@@orangecayman520
She is a liar for attention.
You're so gullible
Just want to say how much I love your British series of stories, I was born in Liverpool and now live in Vancouver BC and was in Whitechapel last year and walked those same streets. The way you film and narrate the stories and events is excellent, your passion for all things horror comes through loud and clear, well done! Nathan
Very cool and detailed location video! Elizabeth Stride came originally from Gothenburg, Sweden where I live. Last summer I was really into the mystery of Jack The Ripper. I did some research and found Elizabeths childhood home. It’s located in Stora Tumlehed.
Fun fact: In London she was called "Long Liz" because she was, as a woman, 165 cm tall. Male average was about 168 cm. People were incredibly short back then. Today a woman at 165 cm is barely average, in countries like Sweden certainly less than that.
Brilliant episode. I worked in Whitechapel years ago. So much dark history.
I was born in London and have been on the ripper tours. You did an awesome job. The ten bells pub was much smaller years ago only one small bar and no upstairs. It was called the jack the ripper for a while. Then it was sold and made into the place it is today. Really love your posts.
Greetings from Germany...I saw you by chance at Pere Lachaise Cemetery in October. Since then I've been watching your videos...as I'm going to London in August to see the scenes of the Whitechapel murders, it's of course very interesting to have seen your video beforehand.
Are you ever coming to Germany? There are lots of dark places here. I'm currently writing a book about medieval and early modern execution sites in my home region. So, lots for you to discover...😊
No one tells a story like you do, I can only imagine the history you had to pore through to find the locations & then the juxtaposition of past & present is brilliant. Well done. 🌟
J.T.R. is the ultimate Grimm story and location, I've really gotten into it because of UA-cam and the old remaining London streets and remaining atmosphere. So envious, THANKS ! I agree that he may have caught syphilis from a prostitute, lost his mind and got revenge.
Y'all ALWAYS go the extra steps when you're walking through, and with, history. This is why your vlogs totally rock. It's your attention to not just the visual details, but all the details, that put you two on the Mount Rushmore of True Crime/Real Life Vloggers. Thank you for bringing us to London! Hope to meetcha in Lex KY come October. 🖤✌🌮
The Jack The Ripper museum is worth a visit. I recently paid a visit to the graves of Annie Chapman and Mary Kelly. I would also recommend the 10 Bells pub to anyone travelling around Whitechapel, its like stepping back in time when you step foot inside the pub.
Happy to see you out and about again, lining up present and past. This is why I watch you.
Thank you for the hard work finding all of the actual locations and I love when you insert the old photos of the location too! Great job❤
Thank you. I spent a night in Whitechapel in 1996, and it was so damn creepy back then.
This is my favorite UA-camr channel EVER! I can't stop watching your videos
Thank you so much. That's the best tour everybody can get, cause you line up the photos so perfect, that we can clearly see the history with our own eyes. Great job.
You are awesome, and thank you for the kind words. We are really happy everyone is liking this adventure in history
Welcome to the uk guys hope your enjoying your vist apparently ive heard stories about the houses of Parliament and its secret underground tunnels @grimmlifecollective
Elephant man.......Merrick was kept in the hospital (Hamlets Town Hall) in Whitechapel and discovered in a building opposite the hospital by the doctor in 1884...The building still exist almost exactly across from the old hospital entrance.....259 Whitechapel Road....
Love this, thank you, and I can't believe how the streets are so quiet, especially around schools.
just for your entertainment ... my 2nd great grandmothers sister Amelia Young (also a member of the family who formed the Youngs fish company) married Bernard Eddowes ... nephew of Catherine Eddowes. He was born here in the east end after the whole family moved from up north..... oh and the building is known to Londoners as the gherkin
Michael , Jessica absolutely brilliant work well done . Love seeing you doing what you do best here in the UK. ❤❤
This was such a well produced video and even the loud outside was edited so that it didn't interfere with the wonderful narration. Truly an underrated channel!
Appreciate your coming to the UK and making your cool videos. From a born and bred Londoner, you're very welcome here and I personally love your channel
Nice to see you over here investigating our hauntings and murder sites. If you're still over here you should also check Hampton Court Palace and the obvious one, the Tower of London. Oh, and you could also check out what was once Fred West's 25 Cromwell Street.
Hi guys! One thing that I would recommend is reading The Five by Hallie Rubenhold. It came out a few years ago and further investigates the five women who were the victims of Jack the Ripper and goes more into detail about who these women really were. Something people don’t really look into!
I agree it's a great book
@Aless81 Is that the book where she pretends that they weren't prostitutes because it doesn't suit her feminist agenda? I haven't read it!
@@crose7412 Nope, she admits they were prostitutes. I don’t remember if all of them were though since it’s been a while since I read the book.
@@Aless81Mary Jane, as far as we know, was actively soliciting, but the others weren't necessarily prostituting by trade, but by necessity.
@@GilbertSyndrome yeah, I believe some of them had children and abusive husbands and their kids got taken off them and the man got the kids and kicked the woman to the curb.
Also I believe one of them was Scandinavian and subjected to STD testing the police did at the time. Absolutely humiliating.
Now this is a video that no one other than GrimmLife is better suited for. A great video of such a macabre real-life event.
Always trying to walk history. Thank you for watching
@@grimmlifecollective You do an outstanding job and that is why I'm a proud supporter of the channel. Thank you for all you do as I recognize that the amount of work involved to bring these videos to life is extreme.
I visited London last year in May and one of the things I loved the most about the city was JUST HOW MUCH HISTORY THERE IS! I loved walking through and learning about all the awesome, or horrible stuff that happened on each and every street, There's not a boring road in London, something happened on every road that's worth learning about!
Absolutely love Michael and Jessica! Always so respectful and educational. Love your videos! ❤
My own cousins grandmother, on her mothers side, was a direct descendant of Mary Jane Kelly (A sibling of Marys I believe). Jack the Rippers 5th Victim. In those days there were a lot of poor Irish immigrants living in London. Sadly prostitution was a way to survive for many women. Ironic. Rest in Peace.
bs MJK family has never been ided
@@davidmoser3535exactly . It’s not even certain her name was Mary Kelly
I wouldn't be proud of it
To respond to you all, correct. Marys family have never been formally identified. Would you be proud to tell others if it were your family? I wouldn't think so. Take it or leave it I couldn't care. Peace & love V
My favourite dynamic duo, putting out the very best content on UA-cam!
Thank you for doing this video. The last time I was in London I discovered too late about the Jack the Ripper tours. The only tour available before I was scheduled to leave was on the same night I had theater tickets. It was a great show, but I also regret not being able to take that tour. But I don't think it would have been as good as this Grimm Adventure.
Nothing can beat this channel
Great video. Some of my family members lived and worked in the same area when the ripper murders were happening. It really blows my mind
That was as good as any tour I would have paid for, thanks guys I learned so much!
A pint at the Ten Bells is absolutely a bucket list item. Thanks for dragging us along on another outstanding Grimm adventure.
From Hell
I took the Jack the Ripper tour 30ish years ago and enjoyed a fantastic pint at the Ten Bells, btw my last name is Frahm.
@mrnosaj71
Nice to meet ya Jason.
Be over 7 quid a pint now👀👍
So glad you guys visited the Ten Bells. Was hoping that you did that. Infamous person for sure hung out there. GREAT video as always.
been following the info since i was 11. 47 years later.. great appreciation for this work. thank you
Another fantastic video. The Jack the Ripper murders exposed the poverty that was around the Whitechapel area, whilst before the residents were left to their own devices.
Host populations still ARE.
I have seen many videos on the Jack the Ripper murders you and Jessica did a fantastic job in my opinion this video is in the top 3 GREAT job!
My wife and I were just there for our honey moon and did the tour.! Super cool
Another Grimm Adventure? Yes please! Thanks Michael and Jessica.
I have done the tour and researched and visited the streets myself. I really admire how much effort you put into your research. You did it better than I did for sure. thank you M & J This has to be one of my favourite videos of yours now❤️
I'm so glad your channel exists❤❤❤ I am tuning into your magnificent virtual tour from Delhi, India!! I grew up in Brussels and across Europe, we visited London and stayed there but this tour is mind-blowing. It's like going back in time!!
You are so good at finding locations and making matching comparisons with old photos o illustrations. 👍
Hiya from New Zealand. Your videos and research are fantastic. Thank you so much!
I love how much work you invest in your videos. Your love for details is remarkable especially historical facts. I enjoy your videos, it’s like you’re taking me to these places 🫶
My daughter and I did what you did only sorry the victims not remembered at all those places we drank at 10 bells and toasted to all the ladies. Thank you for your visit, we love all your content x
I have been interested in this case since I was a teenager.To take a tour like you guys are doing is definitely on my bucket list!Thanks for another great video!😁
Another fantastic video, thank you 👍🙂
Thank you so much
What a great adventure to go on with you’ll
The way you line up the photos
Really takes us back in time
No one does it better
Much appreciated
I've also taken the Ripper Tour but seeing the photos you meshed together just brings it more to life than ever, such a great job, thank you.👻
Brilliant stuff, I was wondering when a Ripper video was going to surface, seeing as you have been in England , knew it would only be a matter of time
Absolutely love your videos. The style in which you tell a story keeps us watching!!!! Thanks to both of you for all you are doing to capture and preserve history.
Such a good video and love that you explored different pertinent scenes, showing the old scenes compared to present day,
As a Ripper fanatic and a subscriber to your channel, I was sooooooooo blown away that did this video. You did a great job. I think you have probably one of the best channels on the Tube.
Yet another great video, the time and energy you both put in is astounding and much appreciated.👍
This vlog will get one of your highest viewings i reckon ! ..Good luck great stuff
I used to work in the area some years ago. There is a lot of history involving whitechapel not only Jack the Ripper but other times in history. Great video guys
You guys are seriously the best.
I love the era when Ripper lived,so Dark and amazing.So good video,🖤
And laudanum plus lovely lovely morphine.
This has always been one of my favorite subjects to explore thank you for doing this one
Really fab video. Love the gentle way you present the subject and your love of the history around you
Thank you for sharing this. Way to honor and remember the victims of these horrifying crimes
I was never a fan of history in school, now this is the kind of history I like, so cool how you lined up the photos to where things happened and what things used to be. Keep up the great videos
Michael and Jessica are so awesome going out of their way to give us the coolest spookiest content on BOO!!!TUBE👻
So excited!! Absolutely love the birthday pics, you deserve nothing but the best ever birthday 💚🤘🏼
This is your best work yet!!!! you 2 are like the new Ed and Lorraine Warren
Love your videos - pls never stop doing this! Greetings from Germany 🖤
I was born in Whitechapel Hospital back in the 80s. Growing up there in the 90s a few of the old buildings still remained but now they are almost all gone and the area is almost unrecognisable since i moved away 20 years ago . I still visit occasionally as I have some family who still live there.
The egg building is called the gherkin
correct
I call it the tampon
As always your videos are respectful and informative. The white chapel murders were savage and depraved. Fantastic upload. I cannot recommend enough the British Tv movie Jack the Ripper with Michael Caine and the great Lewis Collins a chilling experience. Best wishes you two 🤙🏻
Loved that telling!
The issue with the DNA stuff is that I am more shocked there was not half a dozen....ahem, stains, from different people due to her profession.
Agreed. He might have been her client before she was unlifed.
@@camrondirossi3249 The whole thing is so hard to pin down because unless you take our tech back in time, you can never even be 50% sure who it was.
If they state she was raped or sexual assault, there is no way of knowing if the guy before the Ripper did it because of her trade and how a lot of men treated them back then.
I personally don't think he had sex with any of them because of the time needed, the act making him vulnerable to being caught and hard to get away. Also, getting covered in enough blood to make it very hard to explain it away if seen.
@@mrmrgaming yeah I do agree. The ripper was an educated man because he knew human biology. Obviously in that time education was hard for poor people . Write on the 🧱 walk as well.. I still think he was a Dr
@@camrondirossi3249 He had knowledge, but again, guesswork would be a medical student. Young, keen, eager, and new to the profession.
An established Dr would seem odd because I find it hard to believe that one (most had money/a good life) woke up one day and went this path, but someone new to it, I could see that.
I could see a much older doctor, but the issue there is the physicality of it all, which is why a student/trainee would be better if you go the medical route.
We will never know, and that is part of the morbid fun.
The dna was proven to be a common strand to thousands of people and could not be proven to be genuine