March of the Crocodiles Episode I: Natural History of Pseudosuchians in Kaimere
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Pseudosuchians, or croc-line archosaurs, have a long natural history in Kaimere going back to the Jurassic. While many in the known world today are close relatives of our caiman, alligators, crocodiles, and gharials, other crocs include herbivorous giants and terrestrial predators.
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Steve Irwin would love this! Can't wait to see more of the crocs of kaimere!
Yes, he would.
I bet he’s smiling down in heaven admiring this
Maybe the magic took Steve to this world already and hes muckn about living his best life in a naturalist's paradise.
in spite of the existence of actual dragons in the setting, the godzilla crocodiles are still what amazes me the most, in how lowkey they are in the grand scheme of things lol. great job there
Thank you! Love me a big lumbering lizard that can throw hands, and decided pseudosuchians made as good an origin as any
Nice to see King K. Rool and the Kremlings finally make a return after a decade long absence since Dk64
Man, the Irwins would be over the moon if they saw this! Crikey! I love how much history this clade has in our world as well as in Kaimere. Keep the crocs coming and keep marching on, Keenan!
Great video and thanks to the shoutout! I am particularly looking forward to seeing the video about the Kaimeran sebecid!
Much appreciated! Your work is fantastic I had a lot of them going as I drew.
Steve Irwin is not only the reason why I have such a great love for animals, but also why crocs are my favorite reptiles by a landslide. If it weren’t for him, I wouldn’t be where I am today.
This, once again, was a fantastic video. I can’t wait to learn more about the crocs of Kaimere. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much! He was an inspiration to so many.
Glad it turned out well. Nice to see you got another guy to help you sponsor the episode. Glad it's a series now!!
Also glad my boy Purrosaurus is in Kaimere!
Cicky mates looks like we got a full month of danger danger danger. In all seriousness I am looking forward to this crocodile month love the work Kennen
YES YES YES YES YES YES!!! Love the croc line archosaurs
Heck yeah!
@@TalesofKaimere I did want to ask because I wasn't sure, but did any planocranids like Boverisuchus end up in Kaimere?
You should do videos on the arachnids like the spider, scorpion, vinegaroon, mites, amplypigi, and there other less known members.
I'd be open to it!
there's no way the sloth croc is not inspired by Godzilla
Oh 100%
@@TalesofKaimere I knew it
For legal reasons it is totally 100% percent original! You have no evidence to prove they are related!
Finally the episode I have waited the longest for the Crocodiles of Kaimere. Absolutely Loved it. Cant wait for more episodes covering these great beasts.
Love to hear it!
It has begun
Buckle Up its Croc Hours Here
Awesome, as someone who is from Louisiana and has seen alligators in person I’ve been fascinated by crocs my whole life, such interesting animals
Neat to see crocs covered and learn a bit about the jurassic dynasty. An under explored time period in kaimere
Love the new Odoga art!!
Thank you! Old art just felt like it didn't quite capture what I envisioned for them in a way this one does.
I have always loved crocodiles and by extension their branch of archosauria. One of my earliest memories was sitting on an old wharf where my family was fishing, and a huge saltwater croc(judging from the size of the wharf it'd have been at least 4.5m long, maybe 5m as it was longer than the width of the wharf) swam underneath us, seemingly for the sole purpose of showing off the large barramundi it had caught.
There is no describing the scale, and inherent power in an animal like that. You can almost feel it.
I was curious about how crocodiles would do on Kaimere so its good to finally see them getting covered!
that was formable episode Keenan, I can't wait for the rest of the series focusing on the crocodiles of kaimere, crocodiles of kaimere have been around for along time also I might include a crocodile diversity on my spec evo project nitro evolution
Crocodylomorphs my beloved
can't wait for them to bring to Kaimere the time-honored tradition of screwing over scientists' understanding of where a dinosaur starts and ends lmao
On a side note, I have my own personal spec-evo project that had its own inspirations but a lotta ideas I have suddenly manifested in Kaimere as I discovered with delight and horror through your videos lol
Eh, I'll figure something out
In any case, do keep cooking
Very epic Keenan, can't wait to see the next parts
Oh boy the start of a series on my very favorite animals just before my birthday? I'm getting spoiled this month Keenan you king
Kaimere croc month, let's go! Btw seeing some of the art makes want to draw Barinasuchus again, because the last one, which I did in January, has some anatomical issues that annoy me (crocs are hard to draw). Can't wait for the next three episodes.
Indeed! If you follow the fully smooth-skin interpretation (which I don't but hey it's a valid interpretation) they sure are a lot easier to draw that way!
@@TalesofKaimere Yeah, I don't add a ton of osteoderms on sebecids but aesthetically I still like to give them some. It's mostly a matter of me getting to know their body plan and proportions better as I don't draw them as often as dinosaurs. For some pseudosuchian clades and taxa it can also be harder to find good reference art and skeletal diagrams, but fortunately sebecids seem to have gained a little more popularity in the last few years so it's not so much of an issue with them in particular. On that note, it was great that you gave shout outs at the end to all the different sources you used for this series. I already follow most of them but I'm sure it'd be very useful for other people who want to learn more about prehistoric crocs.
This was a nice episode. Had no idea that the history of crocodillians was this complex. Excited to see the rest of this series.
Quick question, though: Was Sobek the reason crocodillians weren't able to establish themselves in the Oligocene Harvest, or was there a different reason ( if crocodillians were harvested at this time, that is)? Also, given the location in Southeast Asia, was the Chinese Alligator (or at least relatives/ancestors) collected along with the Saltwater Crocodiles 1.5 million years ago?
I'm so amazed by this diversity and how much their history was so proud and amazing.
March of the Crocs in Kaimere indeed, as I find the title extremely fitting.
One last question, will we know of the Crocs beyond the known world?
Thank you! Crocs beyond the known world are not one of the episodes, and next week really just explores known world taxa, but I do slip in a few from beyond here and there.
@@TalesofKaimere Thank you. Well, Crocs are diverse enough in the known world, probably, it's hard to explore beyond it.
Then again, their history is as long as Dinosaurs in Kaimere so it's totally understandable.
Thank you for this amazing series. I think that we all waited a very long time, it's just gonna be spectacular.
For some reason, I find Sobek, despite looking very basic, the coolest croc in this video.
Btw what’s Sobek’s closest Earth relative? Like what clade it belongs to. Maybe it’s ancestor.
Thank you! It's ancestor hasn't been preserved but as it's descended from small generalists in Campanian North America, probably something similar to Borealosuchus.
Like always another amazing artwork my friend sorry I forget to comment sometimes:)
This is the best birthday gift I could ever ask for. Thanks a lot for the amazing work as always Keenan ❤
My pleasure, and happy birthday!
This makes me want to know so much more about the mesozoic dynasties! Well done!
I've got something in the works that you may well enjoy!
This new world has become a new paradise for the mighty pseudosuchians, a lineage of marvelous beasts who lived throughout some of the most marvelous eras of our world, and now they once more claimed great diversity on a world full of wonders, being among the oldest veterans of this journey we all call life.
I am happy that the month of my birth would be the one that covers the most marvelous reptiles evolution gave birth to, I would expect their chapters with great interest, specially for the ones Kaimere shares with Earth, and the descendant of the mighty king of Miocene South America
Excited for the odaga and sloth croc
Heck yeah!
They are pretty great!
@@chancegivens9390I know so cool
Crocodilomorphs as an entire large group are my favorite out of any group of animals. I'm so excited to see you doing an episode on Pseudosuchians!
Heck yeah!
TURTLE CROCS. HEROES IN A HALF SHELL
This video was really cool, I’m surprised at the diversity of crocodilians despite the Triassic forms not getting a chance, I also liked hearing about the overshadowed dynasties.
For sure! Lots to say about the mesozoic dynasties that I may be able to dive into further soon!
Crocodiles are the reverse crab. They will become anything and everything every time there's a mass extinction, it just never sticks.
Cannot wait to find out more about the Odaga! Long been a favorite of mine (or its earlier versions at least) from the early days of following your work!
Much appreciated! I've wanted to remake their profile for a while and this was a great opportunity to do so.
Never click on a video so fast (thank you so much I been waiting for this episode for 1+ years
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Heck yeah!
I have gotta say, Hawkins's Thunder Croc is the most metal scientific name I have ever heard.
Am I the only one who thinks that hybrid species tend to make for good protagonists in stories told from animals POV? 🤔
Since a hybrid is the protagonist of the only xenofiction I've written, gotta agree with you there!
Super nice video bro. You’re so good. Love Kaimere. I’ve been binge watching your videos for a week now and I love what you’re doing
Thanks so much I appreciate it!
I know I’m a tad late commenting, but I am so so SO hyped for the rest of the month!!!! My entire setting started out with a legendary crocodilian called the Marsh King (which I someday plan to get commissioned by you of course) and crocodilians are some of my favorite animals! It’s funny, the day before you put this out I considered DMing you seeing how much a crocodile episode would cost haha
Great stuff as always Mr. Taylor, love the pseudosuchian clade in all its splendor
Woah, did my sebecid idea get in? That looks like quite the large animal as the last sebecid! Happy to see that you executed your “plans” for them that you mentioned!
Little guy is the only modern survivor, but when my sponsor wanted me to cover more about their prehistory, I was happy to explore some of the bigger extinct representatives!
@@TalesofKaimere That’s awesome! Well… every dynasty starts small. Just like the chalicotheres, I think they should get another shot at diversifying. Perhaps a large island could help?
And hopefully we see more about the extinct sebecids! A European harvest with Dentaneosuchus would be pretty cool!
Someone applying lips to land crocodilians? My savior! Love your vids, keep them up!
I'd say it probably varied between clades. I'd expect lips on notosuchians for example, but I'm not sure if mekosuchines would have been able to re-evolve lips given their origin as crocodilians. If Kaprosuchus was indeed somewhat terrestrial I think it would have lacked lips too.
Thank you! Hesperosuchus sure makes it look like that was their ancestral condition. I discuss it more in Episode 4 on sebecids but yeah it may well have been a lot more common than we're used to seeing.
@@Andrey.Ivanov Oh for sure. But it would have been more prevlent than what most people think. If I remember correctly, modern crocodilains still have lips, they're just very derived and different then what we're used to. But I could be wrong on that 🤷♂️
@@Andrey.Ivanov Kaprosuchus tusks certainly seems to prohibit lips from my albeit amateur perspective in sketching out their skull for a commission a few years ago.
Knowing that the portal didn’t harvest much during the Triassic, I had become convinced that the Pseudosuchian radiation train had missed Kaimere, so I was happy to see the first Jurassic dynasty.
They even had Rausuchian analogues and their own Ankylosaur mimics!
"Caimans stronger armor is perhaps the most notable distinction between the clades."
Can confirm. I work with reptiles and caimans are like knights with all that armor. Especially the smaller species. Smooth fronted caimans should be called spikey AF everywhere but the front caimans.
13:18 go go Godzilla
Drawing crocodilian armour is a nightmare.
It sure took a long time!
24:50 “Eastern Crescent”? Isn’t that where the Cougar Sloth and the Jungle Possum are also found
Sure is!
@@TalesofKaimere Alright! I’ve been wanting to learn more about what’s essentially the Lost World of the Known World!
Man crocs are like amazing at rapidly radiating post extinction events it just never ever sticks for some reason. I don't know why they're basically dinosaurs but quadrupedal and less developed airsacks.
Also neat to see some stuff from Jurassic dynasty
Absolutely!
To be fair, a lot of the pseudosuchians had a lot more success then people sometimes give them credit for. Animals like Postosuchus and Prestosuchus were top predators throughout the mid-to-late Triassic. The Sebecids lasted all the way into the Miocene as top predators of South America. People act as if dinosaurs and mammals are flat out superior to terrestrial pseudosuchians when it really isn’t true. The Triassic top predator/herbivore Pseudosuchians only went extinct because of the Triassic extinction event at the end of the period.
If I could I’d sponsor a video about the anchored period and pre houze nikhar
I love how the champsocnid begin as how we depict dinosaurs now but the most derived look more like the retro dinosaurs in movie like valley of gwangy
Also you put the sloth croc and odaga in a group called "not-jira" (because despite looking like godzilla,they are completely gentle giant) and you should call the odaga the seajira because now it live in the inland sea
This video to start the month was neat and well-worked as always ! Praises to you for all this documented and understandable explanation of the Evolution and Waves of the differents Crocodiles families and their success on Kaimere !
Questions :
1) How long does it take for you to draw a crocodile ? I remember you once saying that despite how the differents semi-aquatic families were near identical in term of their bodyplan (only differring between each others by their snouts and size), their osteoderms made them quick slow to made.
2) Isn't Sarchosuchus a Pholidosauridae ? Because Elosuchidae isn't really a true family, and Elosuchus itself is listed as a Pholidosauridae. No ?
3) How Pholidosaurid (or Elosuchidae) did on Kaimere ? Well, decent, or never managed to get harvested ?
4) Actually, Sarcosuchus is a true crocodiles, but a ARCHAIC crocodile, which is the major point to take into account when speaking about these animals.
In fact, all families of crocodiles within the Neosuchia/Crocodyliformes can be safely reffered as True Crocs, as with all lineages except Crocodylia being Archaic Crocs, while Crocodylia being the Modern Crocs.
This include Dyrosauridae, Pholidosauridae, Goniopholididae, Thalattosuchia, Elosuchidae, Atoposauridae, Notosuchian, Sebecosuchian and Crocodylia. (and Protosuchia)
While crocs outside Neosuchia/Crocodyliformes can be not reffered as true crocs, either modern or archaic, and just Early Peudosuchian.
5) Btw, I think that all the Neosuchian/Crocodyliformes families inherited their typical crocodile bodyplan from a common ancestor, a bodyplan they all inherited from it.
And not all obtaining it by convergent evolution
In the video, you justly said this was not at all the same case than we have with our extant Trees Sloths, but when you speak about Sarcosuchus, Elosuchid and Dyrosaurs it seem you tell the opposite and that is indeed convergent evolution.
6) Very nice video overall ;)
1. A couple hours, and longer for the big ones. The osteoderms not only take a long time to draw, there are some subtle differences in the clades in how the osteoderms are positioned, so that was something I needed good references for as well. I didn't get it down perfect, in no small part because a lot of taxa didn't have good high resolution references and those that did required a lot of digging. AI photos further complicated the search. It was almost as much time getting good references in order as it was to actually draw in some cases.
2. Oh boy. I'm not equipped to get into pseudosuchian phylogeny. If I misspoke I'll own that, but I tried to follow phylogenies best accepted. It was listed as an elosuchid in the tree I looked at but if that one is no longer consensus so be it, but I didn't have time to verify every tree on every page.
3 and 4. I mentioned that they were harvested. They and many others you listed I just lumped into 'they lived and looked like modern crocs'. I'm not going through every clade to say yes or no if they were harvested. Assembly probably couldn't answer that either as a lot of the taxa are nondiagnostic tooth or osteoderm taxa. I painted in broad strokes and I'm not going through each family (which vary greatly depending on which matrix you use and which researcher you ask) so in an effort to not disrespect pseudosuchian researchers, I'm just going to leave it as: a lot of the ones you said may have been harvested, a lot of the ones you listed are not accepted as legitimate clades by all researchers, and it's not a topic I'm qualified or interested in settling. In these videos, when I say true croc, I mean crocodyloid or the genus Crocodylus, both of which have been referred to as true crocs in literature I read. Again, I'm not qualified to get into that. You can disagree, but I'm following what I read. True crocs aren't really a thing. It's an ambiguous and maybe useless term. Maybe I shouldn't have used it, but I did. Is what it is.
5. That's not what I meant and don't think it's what I implied, in fact I thought I was pretty explicit in the sloth excerpt that it's *not* the case in a lot of croc analogues. There were some mentioned from what I remember, namely Calsoyasuchus and Thalattosuchia, that independently went from a terrestrial ancestor to aquatic, so I didn't want to outright say aquatic crocs all had a common ancestor that was aquatic in a single radiation. There are so many nuances and qualifiers I tried to work into this. A lot of science communicators make absolute statements that are incorrect. In trying to account for the nuances, I'm sorry if I mislead you. Wasn't my intention, but such is the challenge of the position I'm in with the time and budget I have.
6. Thank you! Was a lot to pack into one episode.
@@TalesofKaimere Hmmmm.... interesting infos. Thank you for the anwsers ! :)
I think you could do some kind of size chart for your planets largest land and sea creatures, it would be amazing to see the comparisons for weight, size and height.
That was pretty good! Can't wait for the other episodes to come! By the way, you mentioned Hodari's channel, have you seen his latest video yet? It talks about undescribed remains of what looks to be a new species of giant owl that lived in the Late Pleistocene of North America, is there a chance these giant owls were introduced to Kaimere during one of the Harvests? And if so, could they still be around? Because that would be so cool.
I indeed saw the episode! Very neat ideas and spectacular art. I'm not sure if they would have been around as far back as the Miocene harvest, but some of them being included in the Interrupted Harvest has some potential. The First Children would absolutely have revered a giant owl dangerous enough to be a threat to them, but it depends if they killed them off before they began to revere and incorporate them into homunculi. Something to sort out in future episodes!
As interesting as that would be, the only harvest that could've brought that species in particular to Kaimere was the one that happened in North America around 11,000 years ago, and since that harvest was cut short by the First Children capturing the portal I doubt more then a handful or two of those giant owls were taken to Kaimere. That said, owls have been alive for 60 million years on Earth, so they could've been brought to Kaimere as far back as the Oligocene-era harvest around 31 million years ago. Plenty of time for a native species to grow to the same dimensions as the extinct species that lived in America until the end of the Ice Age.
@@TalesofKaimereThanks for the reply! Maybe some First Children kept the giant owls as pets or in their equivalent of zoos, then when their civilization collapsed some of these captive owls escaped and established a wild population.
And as @IanPendleton-gh6ox suggested, owls could have been brought to Kaimere as far back as 31 million years ago, plenty of time for a Kaimeren native owl species to have evolved to similar dimensions as the Ice Age North American giant owls.
This is epic! Also sebecids would have had exposed teeth since the skull has the same morphological features, pitting, and rugosity of modern crocodilian skulls, and a notch for one of the larger teeth for the upper jaw.
Thanks! It seems likely from the folks I talked to but not conclusive, at least I and Armin didn't find anything explicit or conclusive in the literature, and the fact that they came from likely lipped ancestors without any aquatic lineages does lean some support toward a lipped interpretation.
YOOOOOOO THE CROC MONTH IS HERE
A surviving sebecid? Yes! My boys may have made it (even if just barely) to modern times! And my goodness, Sobek is a beast more than deserving every letter of its name! Glad to see that psuedosuchians are just as resilient as a clade in Kaimere as they are on Earth. They just keep trucking along.
I also hope to learn more about the mekosuchine like island crocs. I'm just saddened that no planiocraniids seemed to have been harvested (no horse crocs).
This was a wonderful start to March Keenan! I look forward to the amazing species that will be put in the spotlight this month.
Thank you! There's one in the known world I'll be focused on, but there are others in the realms beyond.
@TalesofKaimere I can't wait for it!
Say, you don't suppose there might be a sophont/near-sophont psuedosuchian beyond the known world, do you? Perhaps something like a dragonborn? 👀
None are planned but there were certainly reptilian homunculi made by the First Children! @@tec-jones5445
@@TalesofKaimere I really love sebecids, and I'm glad we're going to get what's basically an ancestral form here (since sebecids prob are ectothermic they'd still probably do well in the known world, and them developing meso-or-endothermy would make sense).
I'm just sad we don't have chimerasuchids and the other more insane notosuchians, but I understand why they aren't here. Am super hyped for the Godzilla crocs lmao.
Croc month! The Jurassic pseudosuchians could probably be their own video. I’m sure there is more to explore about the extinct clades that were dominant during the dynasty. Vochek sounds like he would have had an interesting story. Then again, he could have just been shot by the assembly and his skeleton likely in the Great Library.
Awesome
An alternate timeline where crocs take over the niche from the dinosaurs 😂
What were some of the first dinosaur lineages to be successful on kaimere?
Will be finalizing in a future episode, but generally small theropods and sauropodomorphs were the initial breakout stars
AWESOOOOOOOOME!!!!!!!
A few question for you
1is there any surviving spinosaurs species in kaimere ?
2 is any surviving astrapotheres in kaimere ?
3 will you make a video on desmostylians ?
No to the first two, and while I don’t have any sponsors for a desmostylian episode it’s a topic I’d love to cover!
Swamp puppy time can't wait :]
I like the bipedal guys btw (Allochevrona and Champsocnia), are they going to be talked about more later in the month?
Champsocnia has living members that will get discussed but the allochevrons are probably all gone. I say probably because I haven’t finalized a lot of Kairul. Not trying to be cagey just don’t want to shut the door this early in development. Won’t be discussed in any planned episodes though.
@@TalesofKaimere ah okay, cool.
Ah yes the psuedosuchians. I could already tell that these guys were gonna be extremely diverse considering the evolutionary diversity throughout prehistory since they first branched from the dinosaurs.
Now I’m not saying I want a shifter that can change into a croc that’s inspired by Steve Erwin but I wouldn’t hate it either. Regardless incredible work as always
Would be fantastic!
*Though I’ve technically already posted most of this.
Some facts about crocodilians: other then their snouts, there are other ways of differentiating between crocodilids and alligatorids. Alligatorids have smoother scutes and more rotund bodies than crocodilids while crocodilids have their legs positioned closer to each other hence how they can gallop more so than alligatorids. Crocodilids are generally more macro-predatory than alligatorids and react more aggressively towards certain threats than alligatorids of the same size would.
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Some more facts: jaguars aren’t true reptile specialists as they eat more mammals overall. Their durophagy seems to have initially evolved to tackle xenarthrans which made it easier for them to transition to killing reptiles. Caiman eaters interact with alligatorids differently than crocodilids and are powerful because their kind in general are. Caiman are different than other crocodilians. Though of course, this isn’t to say alligatorids are defenseless or can’t evolve adaptations on Kaimere.
Speaking of which, I was sort of surprised that crocodilids played second fiddle to caimans during the Warring Clades Period as they tend to displace alligatorids where they coexist and caiman only had 1,400,000 years to establish themselves. The largest species of purussaurus would first appear a few million years after the first Cenozoic harvest from South America. Though I suppose other factors were more or less into play.
Given that on Earth, Mugger Crocodiles and American Alligators have independently evolved tool use (gathering sticks, balancing them on their snouts, then snatching birds that come to gather them, with a preference for doing this during the latter's nesting period when said sticks are more valuable), how common might this and similar behaviors be on Kaimere, especially with so many different species from diverse groups found throughout the world.
Pseudosuchians are really cool, my favorite extant crocodile is the Cuban crocodile. Cuban crocodiles are in the middle of becoming terrestrial and their running is quite endearing, though the fact a crocodile can outrun a person is rather alarming even if they are pretty small compared to their cousins.
There are also many more recently extinct crocodilians in Oceania that are very cool, There are also the Chinese alligator which is a very interesting case. Seems alligators and giant salamanders are both exclusive to East Asia and Eastern North America and ill bet there are a lot of clades that follow that same rule.
We eating well like these guys
Ah yeah we are
nice video
Thanks!
your welcome@@TalesofKaimere
@@TalesofKaimere they were spinosaurs on kaimere?
@@maozilla9149 There were but they are now extinct.
@@TalesofKaimere what happen to them
It is time for the chompers
Based on faunal composition, I take it the Blue Lias formation (and possibly the Kayenta formation) could’ve experienced harvests.
Possibly, but I generally avoid confirming formations. Very small chance a harvest actually coincides with a well-sampled formation anyway
Prehistoric camains: kings of the river ways with purrasaurus being one of the largest crocodilians to have ever lived.
Modern camains: basically the punching bags of the Amazon constantly getting mobbed by psycho ottors, head shot my jaguars, and crushed by the titanoboas understudy
Speaking of Crocs, wdyt of Notosuchians personally?
I think they're very neat and am excited to see the interpretation and reception of some upcoming stuff on them!
Sloth Croc is definitely godzilla inspired (maybe not but feels like it
Oh 100%. The scientific name of the terrestrial species is gojira. The original clade looked more like the basal one in the protosuchian slide but I thought it would be fun to have a referencing species as a tribute of sorts.
Is there any surviving Choristoderans on Kaimere?
Other than the odaga, any other pseudosuchians came from Permian islands to Known World?
That's the only one I have planned, but I'm not going to say definitely not this early in development.
As much as i like the protosuchian of the early jurassic dynasty, but they don't really make sence when you have dinosaurs and other reptiles like early turtles in similar niches, but maybe there is some way they niche partitioned like a slower metabolism or habitat prefrence.
A slower metabolism enabled them to get larger and more abundant on a less demanding diet, though the strategy didn’t work in the long run.
No surprise crocs made it big in Kaimere
I have a simple question, since Is maybe possible that some stem-archosaurs were already present in some capacity during the permian, It Is possible that they May got harvested and even present during the permian dynasty just before they start to appear in the fossil record on earth's triassic?
Dragon vs dinosaurs please 😊
You can't convince me that the sloth croc isn't a Godzillasaurus
For legal reasons I have to say I have no idea what you’re talking about
Croc nation is upon us Keenan, too bad there’s no Triassic fauna anywhere. You hope some fellow secret assembly agent has not been finding a way to change that fatal error………
Oh wait- 😂
Nice, question, did gorganopsids ever reach the great sizes of the pseudosuchians of the triassic?
If gorganopsids were brought back to kaimere do you think they could survive?
Had to re write my comment and accidentally deleted it
EASTERN CRESENT REPRESENTATION YAY
As much as I love dinosaurs, pterosaurs and the entourage of marine reptiles I wish more media depicted psuedosuchians. All too often people say "crocodiles haven't changed since the times of the dinosaurs," and that doesn't reflect the diversity seen in the fossil record. It's a shame most of the iconic Triassic members of the group didn't make it to Kaimere, but hey that's just a neat excuse to show off some of the other members of the family.
Indeed, I doubt the protosuchian radiation would have happened if there were already a bunch of established relatives in similar niches, so it definitely worked out for them in Kaimere at least.
I actually curious what about dilophosauroids in Kaimere, like they are still alive, and how they was diverse?
If they survived the Jurassic, which I'm not sure they did, it would likely be in quite derived forms.
@@TalesofKaimere why are they extinct in Kaimere tho? Its all by new predators?
@@theblorus6830extinctions still happen like they do on earth. It also means that faunal turnover happens as well. That said, there are a lot of relics, but not everything makes it.
@@Stooltoad5017 fair
Fuckin A! Crocodiles are some of my favorite animals alive today.
Heck yeah! They're fantastic
Finally!!
It's their time!
What happened to the crocodilians that got harvested 12.3 mya.
Some found success beyond the known world but generally a lot were hit hard in the 8-6 million years ago arid period.
Why give the metrirhynchids SMALL front flippers.
Because they had small front flippers, especially more derived taxa
yooooo the chompers
Heck yeah!
i honestly wish that rauisuchians were brought to kaimere along with the other pseudosuchids.
Zentaur was originally a rauisuchian. Good times
I (a random internet person ) very much like this
Love to hear it!
13:14 GODZILLA!!!
1) This overall story about Pseudosuchian nomenclature really put forward how actually it made no sense to not refer certain members of a given whole clade as "True....." and instead considering them as "Not True....".
Because, here, technically, Crocodiles aren't real creatures, and all the extants species we have aren't crocodiles but others creatures we have put the name on it (a "calling a dog a cat" situation).
But because techncially True Crocodiles don't exist in the first place, Pseudosuchian itself technically don't exist (as its mean False Crocodiles, but it here so can can be False at soething else if this something else don't exist).
This is why it better and more logic to refer all animals within a group as True .... BUT by referencing if their are EARLY, ARCHAIC or MORDERN ones.
Proboscidean and elephants, overall, are a good example of that.
Why not calling a Mastodon an (true) elephant, thus it only differ from the member of he extant family for vey few and minor point, and have inherited its overall identical bodyplan from a common ancestor ?
It' just VERY dumb everyone will agree.
Instead, it better to refer it as an Archaic Elephant, an elephant indeed, but which isn't from the surviving family which have survived into modern times.
And all members outside a certain clade/point where the members inside the latter have the overall bodyplan of what is defined to be something, being called Early Elephants.
Moeritherium is a True Elephant, but an Early elephant, not an archaic or modern ones, because it barely have the general look of an elephant.
As such, not only people can have a good, clear and understandable view of a entire group/type of animals in the big and precises lines but it also in the same time reflect the diversity of it !
2) 26:54 This meme is fun ! But actually, both of the man and woman are wrong and right att he same time.
For the Man : Yes, Modern Crocodiles (Crocodylia, aka Crocodiles, Gharials, Alligators and Caimans) and all Archaic Crocodiles (all others families within Neosuchia and Crocodyliformes) are very derived members of their entire clade when compared to the Triassic Members which came first and represent the basal state of the group.
For the Woman : on the other hand, Crocodylia have evolved around 94 mya ago, and (True) Crocodiles almost as a whole have obtain and take their generic and successful bodyplan during the Early Jurassic around 196 mya.
From which they barely changed in shapes (only differing from each others by minors points).
Both dates are VERY long times/periods and enough to consider them as living fossils/panchronic species or timeless animals.
So calling them under these terms is 100%.
+ THESE Crocodiles have lived alongside dinosaurs from almost all their evolutionnary history (Dinosaurs are only slightly older than THESE crocodiles, as Dinosaurs only appeared really at the during the Late Triassic),
So saying that Crocodiles as we view them are the same as they were when they lived alongside dinosaurs is also a truth in many extents.
3) There was really a LOT of credits at the ends ! The most credits concentrated episode since the start of the channel !
Oh... i guess i was wrong about the spinosaurs being the apex swamp predators during the tyrant dynasty at least in ni'khar and kairul. I mean theres no way large spinosaurs could exist along side that absolute beast sobek.
Yeah Spinosaurs didn't make it at least not in large numbers into the Tyrant Dynasty.
Are you excited for dinosaur empire
I sure am!
@@TalesofKaimere want to make a promotional video for it
@@canonbehenna612 I've already got plans to! Just has to wait for when I have a chunk of time. Maybe sometime next week.