Why Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse Works
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It's a bad storytelling that makes 0 sense
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I'd say there's only one mistake in your video, it's about fans thinking miles is not a spider-man, i think that's a misinterpretation, what i've seen in discussion about miles, is that comic book miles can't be spider-man becasuse MARVEL does not allow miles to be spider-man, he was always meant to be the new spider-man of the ultimate universe BUT because of a bigger marvel event the ultimate universe got destroyed and miles moved to the mainline universe where there's so many spider-people already, fans want miles to be spider-man but he simply can't while living in a universe where he isn't allowed to ever outshine the original, while movie miles has a ton of room to grow the stories of comic book miles always revolve around him joining teams or an endless loop of telling people that he is different from the normal spider-man, comicstorian has a video called "the problem with miles morales" that explains this way better, all the discussion about comic book mies revolves about marvel not knowing what to do with him
Where’s that X-men video I have been checking ur page daily for that man 😕
@@sionhurst5215 doing a flash video then that is coming out right after
So @superframe I don’t understand why u got mad about the creation of silver surfer and galactus because Stan Lee was getting bullied by jack in the office and screamed at until he wrote a comic???
Miles was always going to try to do both, this was foreshadowed in the counselors meeting. "You can't have your cake and eat it too" to which miles replies "not if you bake 2 cakes"
Damn that's crazy this writing is actually insane the foreshadowing in these movies are crazy good
His "two cakes" is literally going to be two Miles in one universe working together. I believe the Prowler Miles is more of a vigilante in this world, or at least an anti-hero.
@@rbtorelli1994 i don't think so why would he be a anti hero his uncle was a straight up villain he probably is too
@@jfoster8624 I do think Miles 42 isn’t just a simple villain, but a byproduct of a world where heroes are nowhere to be seen but people like Vulture and Doc Oct are still around. He does “bad” things cause that’s pretty much the only way to survive after his dad passed. Both Miles fighting together makes sense narrative wise, by accepting himself, all of him including what he could have become, Miles will complete his character arc.
Also remember Spot have a single weakness: he can run out of spots, that the reason he dimension hopped to get more so the final battle will be a game of numbers.
@@biazacha I don't think so because if he was simply doing bad things why would he care what spiderman is doing and just because heroes don't exist didn't mean he couldn't have been one he's working with his uncle he's a villain he can still accept his self and possibly turn prowler Miles to be a decent person like he failed to with his uncle but I bet he's a straight up villain at first. And I don't think the spot has that weaknesses anymore he is a hole he doesn't have spots anymore his whole body is the spot I'm thinking they outsmart him or talk him down somehow
Also thinking about in Mumbattan where Pavitr tries to save both Cpt. Singh’s daughter and the bus full of people literally saying “I can do both.” It’s concretely a spider-man trait to create a third train track to avoid the trolley problem entirely
Across the Spider-Verse is without a doubt a brilliant sequel worth watching. The plot had me at the edge of my seat. The animation is ten times better than the first one, and that cliffhanger left me jaw drop and shocked that it has me already excited for the upcoming third movie next year.
I'm sorry but the plot holes especially with the cannon event makes no sense.
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The plot was not it stop it
@@A1K300 naw I agree, what animated movie has a better well developed plot like this?
@Deezy Beibi II the first movie had a miles better plot and don't even get me started on anime movies. The plot for this was very slow and mid until the last.30 minutes.
@@A1K300 ??? The first one, while I’ll admit was very good, is less than this. It pretty much is a regular Spider-man origin story with the appearance of different Spider-people. It was creative with the spin on the origin story with the twist and turns but this one is significantly more personal with the fleshing out of many characters. Plus just like Miles says, “ima do my own thing”, that’s what they did by really deconstructing what it means to be Spider-man. Being slow and building characters is bad now? You must hate TLOTR films then.
The trolley problem talk makes me think that what I hated the most about Snyder's Superman is that he is put in a trolley problem at the end of Man of Steel and ... he choose the lesser evil. But he is Superman! Like Spidey, Supes is the type of hero that should not accept any casuality in the troley problem AND save everyone
I’ve seen it twice and it gets better the longer it sits with me. It’s not a retread of the same Spider-Man lore we’ve all seen. It doesn’t rely on winks and nods to tell its story. And I’ll be damned if these animated characters don’t feel more real than most of the human characters of the last 3 years of superhero cinema. And even removing the film from the genre, it’s still an incredible feat of storytelling and animation. It’s just an instant classic and I can’t wait for the resolution!
Yea that's the weird thing about Animation, it somehow if done well ends up making the characters more real.
Me too the more I analyze the film the more I see the genius behind it, it’s just beautiful story telling. The opening sequence with Gwen narration, the music, the colors expressing emotions. All the foreshowing, character development. I could go one I was nervous cause part 1 was kinda hard to beat but I guess I’ll trust the writers they clearly have a Vision.
Spot was my favourite character. I’ve always had a soft *spot* for the guy and they adapted him into the big screen in the best way I could think of- preserve the goofiness which made me love the character in the first place, and then gave me vindication by turning him into a total badass with some absolutely amazing animation.
Additionally, I told my friend that it would be a perfect film if Spot was the guy who got bagel’d in the first movie AND IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED!
I hope Earth42 Miles ends up getting inspired by our Miles and becomes the superhero his home dimension needs, that'd be such a cool way to tie it all up and give hope to Earth 42
I appreciate how this film brings back the classic style of trilogies (like Star Wars, LotR, Back to the Future and Avatar Last Airbender) with one solid first film and sequel with twists and turns that ends with cliffhanger to set up for a epic conclusion.
Nothing against big epic arcs that are build up through many films. Sometimes it works like the MCU Infinity Saga and Harry Potter films, but a story with a beginning (first film), middle (second film) and ending (third film) is more memorable than keeping the characters going despite their main stories already been completed.
Avatar the last airbender?
@@giosbizarreart9048 While not a film, the animated series does follow the formula of trilogy, with three seasons (or books).
You included Avatar, as if TV shows don't do that anymore. Disney TVA would like to have a word:
"I- I'm sorry for everything." 😱🗡️🦎
"Hey mom.. I'm back..." 😞
"Goodbye... Goodbye everyone!" 🫥
"If the McDucks want an adventure, we'll give them their last!" 🕴️
But this is definitely the first second part of a film trilogy that has a major cliffhanger in a while. And the first animated example in... Ever! I mean, there are some amazing animated trilogies out there, but their second parts have endings that are usually self contained. Toy Story 2 and How to Train Your Dragon 2 have themes that follow the next film. Kung Fu Panda 2 has an early bird cameo from Li Shan, Po's dad, who gets a major role in the next film. And Puss in Boots 2 has a Post credit scene that implies Shrek and the gang are going to be in the 3rd film. But all those movies still have happy endings that just set up possibilities in the future. This one leaves everything in shambles and makes us have to see the next film to see what's going to happen next.
@@kylemorello4787 Some TV shows do that but doesn't have much solid story, with alot of filler and unrelated threats for the heroes deal. Avatar was always one single story, Aang needs to defeat Fire Lord Ozai, instead of doing like Korra in which each season had a different villain.
Infinity Saga may seem like trilogy because it's made in three phases, however because it takes place in shared universe, it's also made of many movies and trilogies with different protagonists. rather than one single story with the same protagonist from beginning to end.
@@alexandrefrauches132 ohhh yeah i gotcha didn’t realize that
Masterpiece, Miles has always been my favourite because he's more relatable to me. Not in the aspect that he's a wall crawling web crawler but from the aspect of who he is when he's not Spiderman.
They elevated that to the next level, and I can't wait to see where Miles goes from here.
I will say this, the use of Fatalism by both Antagonists of this film is clever in that it reflects what each Antagonist NEEDS "Fate" to be. For Spot, he blames Miles for everything he lost, and so he MUST be the only thing he has left. Miles' "True Nemesis". While for Miguel, no matter what sort of validity his arguments on "canon" might have, his "Miles is an Anomaly" is really just an extension of his projection onto Miles.
Both are cherry picking "Fate" in different ways to what is most convenient for a conclusion they need to be true; because its whats propping them up through SO MUCH sacrifice and suffering. Spot clinging to his Animosity towards Miles and his "need to be recognized after losing his face"; while Miguel clinging to his Responsibility and his "need for all that trauma to "mean something". But on a philosophic level, if you're taking the stance of Fatalism ... unless time-travel is involved, its "whatever happens, was always meant to happen". You can't just ignore parts of Fate contradictory to your argument. Both Spot and Miguel have, because they need what they're saying it to be true. As they're barely holding themselves together (Spot fritzing out, Miguel "holding the Multiverse together"). And so, they've taken steps to make sure that "Fate" becomes true.
In short, this movie is very good. Its challenging a lot of classic Spidey tropes while also showing them nothing but respect.
I think the "foreshadowing" of the Spot on Into the Spider-verse is a great example of backfilling.
My understanding is that they did not know the Spot was going to *be* the villain until they got deep into working on it. Once they did, tho, they wrote a visual scene with the Spot that called back to Miles' graffiti.
And I was totally not expecting that twist at the end. Made me so hyped for the 3rd movie
The thing about the trolley problem is not only its just one person you love VS a bunch of randoms, its a person you love VS AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE, like, not only 8 billion on earth but the possibility of quadrillions of sentient beings across the universe, plus the corruption of many other universes, this is not an upgrade of the trolly problem it is THE ULTIMATE trolley problem
What is blud waffling about
maybe im little reaching with this but i would say Across the spider-verse did to the spot what Batman the animated series did to Mr. Freeze take this goofy D list villain and make him into one of the best villains that now has a chance to stay as an A list villain
Anyone notice how Miles spray painted a version of Spot in the first film? 😨
Love the movie and I love that we're already looking to a conclusion early next year. I love it as a singular flick that isn't part of some overall big grand plan. The music. The voice acting. The beautiful animation and art styles. The writing.
Actually the movie will be most likely delayed due to the cost and time required for the animation as well as the need to not overstress the crew working on it, but as long as it means we will get the same level of care and love with music, voice acting etc that we saw in this movie and the previous, I'm more than happy to wait
I love the evolution of the main characters! Miles starts as joke in a journey to Greatness. (Just like the villain Spot). Peter B Parker is the "teacher" but ends up learning as much (or even more) as his "student" Miles. Gwen starts as a closed character and ends as a charismatic and optimistic character. I Loved all the new characters except Jessica Drew!! To me, it makes no sense a woman fighting bad guys being 8 or 9 months pregnant!! (i know she exist like that in the comics but even so...)
Exactly! Like go on maternity leave!
@@vanessaroper3028 not that i don't agree with you guys entirely, but lmao rip, spider[wo]man doesn't get leave, let alone maternity leave. can you imagine her (or any of them) really saying "sorry, can't save you today nyc because i'm confined to bedrest. we're just gonna have to ask the villain to desist for a month or two. for an unrelated reason, does anyone know a really trustworthy sitter not prove to getting involved with anything?" 🤣🤣🤣
My favourite character was actually gwen. Everybody hates on her but the whole point of this movie was to give her a lead role. She helped allowing this movie to also hold on its own because her story has a conclusion l. Shes a flawed character (finally not a mary sue) who wants to protect the people she cares for and only ends up hurting them, at the end she learns that the best way to do that is to actually tell people the truth rather than lie for "their own good". Maybe its cause been there and done that. But that was my favourite arc in the story. And i do hope to see miles struggling to forgive her and turn a cold shoulder for a while, rather than just go "oh yes i forgive you". Also please mote hobie pav miles scenes... Please
DUUUUUDEEE… I never even thought about Miles’ empty silhouette graffiti from the first movie as the Spot… woah…
Love peter Parker. But miles is my spiderman. I relate to his character so much more.
Both times ive seen the movie Ikept finding more details. The level of foreshadowing and detail put into this movie was incredible and in my opinion is the perfect second movie for this trilogy.
Oh damn! I've watched the movie three times, and this video is still showing me stuff that I missed! The foreshadowing of the Spot through Miles's artwork, Earth 42 Miles being shown as about to be bitten only for the spider to teleport away, and even the notion that Morbius kinda works now! What a masterpiece of a movie! March can't get here soon enough!
3:18, holy shit, I never realized that the final shot of the Spot at the end of the second movie calls back to the very start of the first one until this very moment, I keep noticing more and more little things with every new watching or with every new video, and that blows my god damn mind.
Edit: followed by the video pointing it out not two minutes later. Guess I foreshadowed the foreshadowing in the video about foreshadowing.
The Spot is a fantastique vilain. The possibilities with him are endless... The guy who will play him in live action will have a huge task.
After this movie and calling it my new favorite movie of all time with Into the Spider-Verse very close behind, I’m now fully ready to call the Spider-Verse movies the best movie series I’ve ever seen, and we haven’t even gotten this story’s third act yet
going into this with some slight spoilers after a few days of release and the internet working its magic, i absolutely loved this movie. from the incredible opener to the title change to every world being unique to every character feeling as real and as personable as any old friend is just absolute magic. i’ve seen the movie a second time and it still captivated me with each scene and the amount of detail and love that was poured into this project
If Miles isn't a Spider-Man, then he's not beholden to Canon Events. That means that he's able to save people that others can't or won't, which is the ultimate Spider-Man move.
Which is it Miguel!?
Ha that pun
@@mochii813 I spent a good 5 minutes trying to decide if I wanted to capitalise the "U" to make the pun more obvious or not.
Beautiful storytelling, great visuals and characters that we care about--that’s all we want as fans
My favorite character are Miles and his parents.
But i found myself fascinated by spiderman 2099 too. I love how he is written, so many layers
This is what happens when the producers/writers/directors, are fans of the source material, and truly love and respect the source material.
They produce masterpieces that take the movie/animation industry by storm!
It also is wiser for those writers/directors/producers financially.
This is also Meta done right
Hobie's short screen time has been Well dissected in other videos I watched. He's an amazing side character.
Seeing tragic Emo Ben was hilarious to me. I met him when I was 9. All the crap he's been through placed in a humorous way.
I love this movie it gave me everything I ever wanted especially seeing my favorite character mayday parker spider-girl from the comics even as a baby made me so happy that I am very excited to see more of her in the sequel also a bonus seeing Miles Morales Spider-Man and Spider-gwen become a couple is so adorable that i can't wait to see more of this amazing team in the upcoming sequel beyond the spider-verse which is going to be really awesome and tons of fun at least in my opinion, even cooler to seeing this movie do my favorite characters spider-girl mayday parker Miles Morales Spider-Man peter parker and Mary jane in this animation style and looking really awesome and badass makes me so happy that I am super excited to see more of my favorite characters in animation style in beyond spider-verse which is going to be badass at least in my opinion. :)
My favorite character is still Gwen! Iloved that she got more screentime and her arc is also so interesting
Her nor her dad has the charisma miles or his parents do unfortunately. She made the first half of the film feel slow. Also kinda annoying, I wish miles would dump her and date spiderbyte instead
Besides Jackie Robertson 42 is actually Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy reference and Alice in Wonderland reference. The creators deny this but is now confirmed because Peter Parker is in a bathrobe like in Hitchhikers movie. The Alice in Wonderland reference is confirmed when Peter Parker looks into the mirror in the beginning of the first movie. This is the Looking-Glass. Lewis Carroll was obsessed with know the number 42, just look it up. And obviously Spot is a rabbit hole type character. I wouldn't be surprised if White Rabbit is in the next movie. This explains why they wouldn't admit these references.
Hello, Super Frame. I need to ask you something. I have seen your "How to make a DC film universe" pitches and I was touched by them. That's why I decided to adapt them. I just need to know, what comics, stories as well as other media like films and shows would you suggest for each film? From Superman: Man of Tomorrow to Justice League III? Could you also give me any suggestions for music that fits the tone of each character and their movies? Other details I might be missing would also be appreciated it.
Bro I'm loving this! Will be keeping more up to date on these for sure!
Great job as always, SuperFrame. Keep it up.
This channel is way above the status quo on geek understanding, marvelous, sophisticated, structurated, this is an amazing way to study human culture, and their hero insights. Just excelsus job.
Brilliant analysis!
I like Miles because he isn't fully replacing Peter. He was inspired by him and uses him as a mentor. He also brings a new flair to the character that only he could.
I means who takes the time to develop the character of a villain..? who does that..? but of course that’s just one of the reasons i absolutely obsessively love Across.
the creators CARE about their Arts
In a multiverse where anything that *can* happen *does* happen, can there even be anomalies? Isn't every event, including the anomalous event, a canon event?
I don’t think they’re going that deep into it. It’s better if they keep it simple enough so no one wastes their time trying to fill in plot holes when they could be actually enjoying the film.
Nice use of the end theme for the starting intro
THANK YOU! someone finally mentioned the Vulture and Morbius thing (it's all I've thought about and not because I like that movie it's cause I'm excited he's back in the MCU no need to watch anything outside the MCU to understand him being back)
Babe wake up a new SUPER FRAME video is dropping
Great, succinct analysis!
My second fav spider-man movie next to the first spider-verse! and it’s now in my top 10 fav superhero movies!
Great Video!
Can't wait for the 3rth movie and i'm glad someone finaly understands the cleif hanger
You talked a litle about the music wich i can't agree on. The music is better than the one from into the spider-verse but it suffers bc isn't as iconic as sunflower and whatsapp danger wich is a shame bc i rly think am i dreaming,hummingbird,calling and annihilate blows the old ones out of the water but they woren't used as good so the only way to rly apreciate 'em is to lisen to the playlists and discover 'em that way
Also,gwen is my favorite. She skyrocketed from 4rth to 1 this movie. I knew hsr story at the time that i seen the fhirst movie and even tho is neerly copy and paste, atsv ads soo much needed depth in her character synce in the fhirst one,she was seen too much as a badass,considering her story. This movie corects it. Spider-punk was my 2nd choice bc of obvious reasons
"2 Spidermen can't exist" Take a look at earth 1048 Peter is mentoring miles.
i love that its a spiderman story that is critical about what makes a spiderman story, i am almost certain that miguels theory of "canon" is wrong, and that it is to say that *anyone* can be spiderman, the eternal repetition and stagnation of spiderman stories is not inherent and doesnt need to exist. spiderman doesnt need to be defined by tragedy. and i think thats beautiful.
both this and everything everywhere all at once, my other favorite multiverse movie, are deeply introspective and thoughtful about themselves
Lord and Miller are the kings of meta stories done right
The message I got from this film is that nobody’s life is filled with complete tragedy. Sure, horrible things will always happen in our lives. But the idea is that things will always get better if you are willing to try and don’t accept defeat. This is why I had a problem with The Last of Us 2 when compared to its predecessor. The first game showed that there’s always hope, no matter how dark and depressing the situation is. Meanwhile the second game throws that all out of the window, basically saying that life continues to get worse even when you have hope. Uncle Aaron needed to die in order for Miles’ to have the motivation to keep going and to never give up on what he wants to do. That doesn’t mean his dad needs to die as well
I hope Beyond the Spider-Verse is a great wrap up to the Spider-Verse Trilogy, this is the best movie trilogy since the Original Star Wars Trilogy.
It’s not. It’s part 2 of the second movie. The third movie is yet to be announced actually. I’m sure it’s only considered a trilogy when it’s three whole movies. Not two movies with one of them split in two. Beyond might only be 1h and 30 min
@@cltre1048it's still a trilogy cause it's still a 2nd film
its great
Spiderverse vidoe essay
I click :)
Hey superframe can you do a comparison vidoe on nwh vs into the spiderverse movie or a one year later Spider-Man nwh video
I think there's already content out like that so I don't want to step on other creators toes but I'd love to revisit the Tom Holland movies and see how they can be approved upon for it's 4th.
@@thesuperframeya definitely I’m just asking since I love your vidoes and you make good essays on that stuff again thank you for the answer
What i dont understand about across the spiderverse is miles canon event is supposedly his dad dying but what about his uncle dying in the first one? Always thought his uncles death was miles version of uncle bens death
100% Agreement.
Is there a date for How to Make a Good X-Men Movie?
any specific updates regarding the X-men video will be on my Patreon, but either that or the Flash video will be next so it'll be soon
@@thesuperframe Cool cool, love the content man.
Because its directed by Phil Miller XD
i mean the next movie is call the beyond the spider-verse, so hes bound to escape the laws of the spider-verse and create his own path
I know I’m late to the party, but here’s my 10 cents on Spider-Verse. Miles wasn’t a mistake, because the Spider Totems don’t make mistakes. Miles was always meant to become Spider-Man, just maybe not the Miles that we follow in the movies. With the collider pulling the 42 spider into Miles’ universe, it still had to fulfill its purpose, and it found the Miles of that universe.
What are your thoughts on the recent TMNT Mutant Mayhem?
I want the MCU to end spiderman Peter Parker by having Tom hollands Peter grow a little more and when he's in mid 20s or 30s meet miles and mentors him
Than after miles has more experience as spidey than peter marrying Mary jane watson played by an actual hot and fiery redhead or a gwen stacy and ofcoz having mayday parker
So basically Peter settles and "retires" from spiderman but sets off the his legacy towards miles and later mayday spiderwoman
Miles can mentor mayday
Also side-step I also want tom hollands Peter parker be an "uncle" to Morgan stark growing up and maybe even mentor Morgan a little too
Cuz Tony starks such a huge part of his life
Majority complained that Tom hollands spidey has a lotta mentors so it'd be cool over time as he ages he will be the mentor to a bunch of aspiring young heroes
Nyce video
You know when Miles catching-up with Gwen.. he literally trying to catching up with her.
Even if Beyond The Spiderverse did launch Miles Morales in The MCU alongside Tom Holland's Spiderman, that won't be a good decision, it would be the opposite of a good decision.
can u do a vid on why mr robot works?
Great video, I've never understood why people stick so close to canon given how much it's changed over the years.
Flash's mom was never murdered until the late 2000's
Bruce at one point was a happy guy married to Catwoman with a daughter.
Superman used to let bad guys die and spank Lois for being "lippy".
Wonder Woman used to be a golem, now shes a goddess.
Magneto's real name has even changed over time.
I care about a good story plain and simple, the continuity is a far far smaller concern.
In the comics, Green Arrow is a wisecracking liberal jokester, but Stephen Amell did his own thing with it and it worked really well.
The creators of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds have gone on record saying they don't care about being 100% faithful to continuity.
This film is using Spider-man 2099 as a way to tell us to stop being so focused on continuity and we all really need to listen.
Yeah the same
Best sequel since Empire Strikes Back
Made a video like this on my channel - this is better done but I was thinking this all too. An even the clip from the video game !
That's anomaly that miles has to accept the prowler 🐆🌌 and spider 🕷🕸
Why did the spider that bit miles have 42 on it at all other than a cool callback? Did the people that made it know they were in earth 42?
please turn your voice volume up i cannot hear it at medium volumes
I know Stan didn't mean it, but I can't help but notice he had originally said "any kid can imagine himself"
Implying that only men could be Spider-Man (acknowledging the words in the name aside)
I love that Into and Across the Spidervese tell us that anyone can truly be a Spider-Person
Anyone can imagine 'themselves' as Spider-Man
It is very clever and very well made but I feel unsatisfied because nothing was resolved.
Same could be said for empire strikes back or matrix reloaded or two towers
@@thesuperframe at least they had a climax. Tho it is more close to the matrix I’ll give it that. That’s the problem of this kind of story telling I don’t want to judge it fully until I see the ending to the story.
I haven't seen the film yet.
I mean "Beyond The Spiderverse won't launch Miles Morales in The MCU alongside Tom Holland's Spiderman."
I want 6 years of high school, 4 to 6 urs of college and then middle age. But im happy with it all so far
I hate how the movie ended without any conclusion. ITSV had a conclusion whereas this only serves as a sequel bait.
You could say the exact same about empire strikes back, twin towers, or matrix reloaded, some works of art are meant to be viewed as trilogies and this is no different.
Well yk what u do!!! U pull the lever right offa the damn thing and shoot sum nice webs on the side and u stop that damn train!!💯✊🏽miles is ontop we do our THING!!!
I feel like we got a bit of closure with Gwen.
Spider-Man
Excelsior
I don't want Spider-Verse's Miles Morales to be contaminated by the MCU.
Peter B. Parker is my favorite Spider-man of all time.
7:17 now that I think more and more bout this movie. Technically Miles can’t really have cannon events being an anomaly…. He legit has to forge his own path to becoming Spider-Man since that spider wasn’t supposed to bite him and it can’t be undone
Miles has the choice to try and save everyone
Into the Spiderverse had a weaker villain imo, so I think this one is better, but I like Spectacular Spider-man the most
Yeah because I think they should have used someone else because Kingpin plan was to get his wife and son back which he could have hired the Jackal to clone them and the Green goblin was a henchman in that movie which he is not
Beyond The Spiderverse won't launch Miles Morales in The MCU.
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Miles Morales doesn't need to be in The MCU.
I WILL GIVE U ONE BETTER, WHAT SPIDER- MAN ACROSS THE SPIDER VERSE WORKS
Only reason marvel want a live action miles movies is only because he become popular because of sony.
SUPERFRAME. Why did you remove your video about Avatar: The Way of Water?
I want to do an Avatar 2 video before Avatar 3, similar to the first, that way my opinions aren't so fresh and feel more coherent
@@thesuperframe I see. Are you also going to do a video commenting on Gunn's DCU?
@@Skaiser_Wilhelm7938 yeah that’ll be apart of my flash video
I am tired of telling the same story myself. Let's change it. 😎
The best version of miles by a mile. In other interpretations especially the comics, he's just black peter parker.
He has not been for quite some time, and infact his latest run is going better than peter's current run, peter is now the trash one in the comics lol
@@agtl3168and what kicked off Mile's massive upgrade in character writing?
god i hope they never put miles in the mcu, it's so bad right now i can't see him be done like that.
No, that guy shouldn't be MCU Prowler.
I really hope they don’t ruin spiderverse by putting miles into live action in the next one. I know they probably will but I want this to stay separate from the mcu. Please don’t ruin miles, marvel
To be honest, wasn't always too fawned of miles,
Don't get me wrong, It was a fresh new idea back then
Seeing someone else's PERSPECTIVE on being SPIDER-MAN
what his journey was like and HOW he experiences the the mantle WILL SHAKE HIM TO THE CORE
AND WHAT MAKES HIM IS OWN SPIDER-MAN
and they had some Good IDEAS in the comics
but they weren't really Expanded Upon,
To put it plainly Miles was just "THE BLACK SPIDERMAN" at the Time👨🏿🕷️😒
And that disappointed me, because I'm black myself
and I HAVE SEEN DIVERSE AND INTERESTING takes on the character work BETTER in the past LIKE 2099
SO much potential
I didn't read the character because he was black
there were already black characters that i could relate TO
like LUKE CAGE And BLADE
But being black was apart of their character,
I will say that the comics did GOOD THINGS
but it wasn't NOT something done before
And it was kind of turned off for me 😔
AND THEN SPIDER-VERSE CAME!!!!!
They took that ground that was laid and expanded upon it
Showed the importance of being a hero but also having your own style about it
The good thing about being Spider-Man is that ANYBODY can be him
AND MILES PROVED THAT
The great thing about Peter Parker is
That he's like anybody
He has problems and life worries, but still chooses to be true and persevere
That's what it means to be spider man
No I'm not saying Miles was BAD because he was just "race swap"
I DON'T RELATE TO MILES BECAUSE OF HIS RACE
I RELATE TO MILES BECAUSE I WAS A YOUNG TEENAGER LOOKING TO BE SOMETHING IN LIFE
HECK, I JUST GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL NOT TOO LONG AGO
And they use the expansion of spider-verse to explain that,
You can tell when something is motivated by a strong idea,
ESPECIALLY IN STORYTELLING
You may not always be able spell it out in words
What that is what the defines a good and bad story
It's not bad to have new ideas,
And it's not bad to build off old ones
but if those ideas don't go lead anywhere what's the the point
But in one way or another
We all relate to spider man
To put it shortly...
STAN LEE SAID ANYBODY COULD BE SPIDER MAN
BUT MILES IN SPIDER-VERSE CAME AND PROVED IT
I recommend you give his new run by Cody Ziglar a chance, because I've been reading it for the last 6 months via trade paperbacks and I've been loving it so far.
And it's a great jumping on point for those looking to get into his comics and those who haven't been reading his comics for awhile.'
So I hope that, if you do give it a read, that you enjoy it. Because it's really good.
@@windghost2 thanks bro, I've been trying to find good Spider-Man stuff
It would be great to read the more developed and flushed out miles morales
And I think he has a little brother now, I can't wait to see where they go with that 😁
What do you know what they're doing in the book so far?
@@YAHSHUA777 He actually has a little sister named Billie Morales. And she was introduced in the previous run by Saladin Ahmed, that run is before the current one with Zilgar.
You could start with that one and then start the Zilgar one afterward since it introduces 5 new personal villains for Miles and a new love interest, but that's if you're interested in it. (Miles also goes through a traumatic event in that run too, so there's another incentive.)
As for the current run, right now Miles is currently fighting Cletus Kasidy and getting his ass kicked, so that's not really a good party for him to be at.
But that began in the mini crossover Carnage Reigns. (which he's currently going through right now)
As for how the run starts, it starts with introducing another new villain for Miles, but this is one is someone tied to his past before he even became Spider-Man.
It starts back with him winning the lottery and getting into Brooklyn Visions, his new villain was in that lottery and they didn't get in unfortunately and because of that things that were already going downhill for them, took a dark turn after that defining moment.
Right after finding out that he was Spider-Man, they became a villain dedicated to killing Miles and destroying everything he loves.
Their name is Rabble and honestly my guy, THIS is the personal villain Miles really needed after his Uncle Aaron died in the Ultimate comics. They're motivations for going after Miles are hypocritical though, but I like that. They're going after him because they're putting all of their anger, rage and pain onto Miles instead of doing something positive with it.
If anything, it's really them having a tragic backstory and becoming a villain from it, and you can still call out their bullshit with their actions. Which is great, at least to me.
Once you read the book and see what I mean, it'll become clear that Ziglar took inspiration from a right winger analogy and it really works here with Rabble in my opinion.
You're welcome to disagree with it though.😅
One more thing, this is the first "arc" of the new run called "Trial By Spider" it has some really cool variant covers that I recommend you check out and by the last issue, you'll really love it a lot due to a cool surprise.
That and the arc focuses on undeserving privilege and the educational system of America being unfair to those in need as the main themes in the book. I really enjoyed them since they made me question a lot but I won't spoil that much no more.
I hope you enjoy reading!
@@windghost2 thanks bro, I think they do something really interesting with the rhino in that series
Or is that another series, I don't know 😁😅
But like I said , I'm really looking forward to seeing what they do with miles,
But I am also hoping that he becomes something of his own like Ben Reilly and Miguel O'Hara
Two of my favorite alternate Spider-Man
Maybe he could move out of Brooklyn
Maybe he could take more influence from his uncle
Maybe he can be more inclusive with gankey and expand on their relationship
Who knows but I'm excited 😊
@@YAHSHUA777 No prob😃