@@stephecho5916 I was gonna say that. It's almost as if embracing other musical influences than brass orchestras is good to make memorable themes. Similarly, the use of Immigrant song in Thor ragnarok really sticks out. The whole licensed soundtrack of guardian of the galaxy as well. It's a shame Wonder woman also went for a mostly unsurprising soundtrack rather than expand from a very original theme for a superhero.
That scene would NOT be the same without the mix of the original hip-hop, and the super hero-esque brass instruments blaring next to it. I had GOOSEBUMPS ALL OVER MY BODY.
Artuno i’m so disappointed that they didn’t put the film version of the song on the official soundtrack! the superhero music in the background makes it so much better!
*AND ON THAT SCENE*, he finally becomes animated by 24 frames per second, which before he had about 16 to give that feeling that he's cluncky while the other characters graciously (as already complete heroes) were on 24 frames per second all the time. This movies is nuts man, a true masterpiece.
One thing I kinda want to add about the “What’s Up Danger” scene - in the script it’s written that “the camera is flipped. Miles isn’t falling. He’s rising“
My favorite use of the Prowlers Theme is when Peter B Parker shows up. His shadow looks particularly "Prowlery" and the Theme begins to play but as it's revealed that it's actually Peter B, it transforms into nothing more than the sound of the screeching subway.
it would take hours to scrutinize every little detail and admire every piece of work and applaud the amount of effort and love that went into making this movie, from the animation department to the scoring, writing and directing.
In the alternate universe cut of the movie, they show a deleted scene where Miles' friend (who had a much bigger role originally) directly says that they needed to find his 'Uncle Ben'. I'm glad they didn't keep that tbh, by the time Aaron gets shot in the movie, the first time around I had kinda forgot about the whole "Spiderman's uncle dies" thing and it got me out of nowhere that OH YEAH THIS IS HIS UNCLE THERE'S NO WAY HE'S GONNA SURVIVE THIS MOVIE
Oh my gosh, YES. How this was not nominated for Best Picture is beyond me. Oh yeah I know why, IT'S BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY THINKS ANIMATION IS JUST FOR KIDS.
Gray Au Just checked your playlists and it seems you are a fan of EDM/hip hop, and yet your opinion on this movie’s music is that it’s shit? Bit weird, but okay.
@@realar The reason it wasn't nominated for best picture had nothing to do with being animated, but because it was a superhero movie, and Black Panther already had a nomination... Imagine not only to nominate for the first time a superhero movie, but do it twice. The irony is The Dark Knight was the reason they expanded the best movie category, and they still don't respect comic adaptations (Yes, I 'm talking about you Scorsese)...
Here's a fun fact that not many people talk about: Miles keeps his shoes untied during the movie and whenever someone pointed it out he'd say "it's a choice," that 'choice' led to him tripping on his shoelaces and falling off the building, inevitably breaking the USB.
@@speedboatinterview7944 dude what the fuck. It is that sort of attention to detail that completely trips me out. Everything in this movie is so cohesive. Absolutely wows me every time I watch it.
The attention to detail is incredible, tbh this is definitely one of the best movies to come out on the 2010s, I see why it was in the works for so many years it's amazing
The scene where Miles' dad is talking to him on the other side of the door is so powerful, I love how the camera angle shows the audience that they are literally and figuratively divided
Also as the scene progresses, his dad leans closer to the door and crosses the halfway point of the screen, as he is physically and emotionally trying to get closer to his son at the same time.
Yes! Miles and his father are divided in this scene AND in the first scene the two have together in the car--the cop-car grate and the separation of the front and backseats intentionally separate the two characters. And notice how these two scenes are specifically dealing with the divide Miles and his father are struggling with--it's why, at the end of the movie, it's significant that Miles is able to hug his father, because it's the culmination of the journey their personal relationship went through In the first, they are divided and the efforts to bond fall flat. In the second, Jefferson is making a sincere effort to try and connect to Miles, and the two of them lean against the door--trying to bridge that gap, but not being able to, and in the third, there is no divide--and that's why Miles hugs his father at the end
I started crying when you showed how they made the hi-hat noises out of Miles' spraypaint cans- god, they cared *so much* when making this movie, this soundtrack is the sound of real artists pouring their passion into these characters and this world. God, it's so beautiful and so sweet. You don't see passion like this in many films these days.
Fun fact, sunflower was still being written while the movie was in the works, so the very first scene with miles where he just hums and all the other scenes where he hums is because the song wasnt finished.
i think it was bc they wanted to show how it actually is singing to a song, you won’t know all the lyrics at first so you just kinda hum some parts, they wanted to make a relatable scene basically
That scene was literally breathtaking. Spiderverse was unironically the best superhero film I’ve ever seen. Another little detail: It’s established that Miles clings to things when he gets stressed out. When he jumps the glass under his fingers breaks, meaning he was very stressed and couldn’t release it. He was terrified and he jumped anyway. A true Leap of Faith.
"Spider-Ham" is actually a spider that was bitten by a radioactive pig. Just wanted to clear out the biggest mistake of this video. It's clearly visible in it's origin story short.
my favorite part about that is when they're all doing their intros with the three panels next to each other and Noir & Peni (whose bite moments are showing on the left & middle panels) say "I was bitten by a radioactive spider" but Ham (whose transformation from spider to pig is showing on the rightmost panel) says "radioactive pig" instead, both Noir and Peni look over at his panel in confusion. It's blink-and-you-miss-it subtle, but it's great.
I’d just like to say that the contrast is amazing from modern hip hop to hearing Biggie as we’re introduced to uncle Aaron, communicating how Miles and Aaron are kindred spirits although from different generations.
literally. getting the whole "what's up danger" sequence after getting emotionally gut punched is like getting fisted by the largest hands on earth and then pulling out quickly to stop the pain
I would like to also point out that when miles is ready to become spider man he merges part of his identity (graffiti) with the spider man identity (the suit)
I do feel like there is a bit of post processing to acknowledge as well. Perhaps layering with a Kontakt sample library along with some EQ and compression
@@langianimations416 I can only think of one thing in my opinion is a miss is the when spider ham introduces himself. The wet hand joke is eh, but that's just me kind of nitpicking Other than that the movie is fantastic
honestly, i kind of find the part where he instantly gets his powers is pretty cliche and lazy. he should have gradually earned them or something to show us that they don't come from nowhere.
Plus, the music holds up years later by giving the same emotions you felt the first time, Tuned down a little because you know what is coming, but you still feel terrified of the Prowler, saddened during Scared of the Dark, and triumphant during What's Up Danger. The music helps this movie so amazing, and it wouldn't be the same without it.
Oh i’ve done like 2 projects analyzing the “whats up danger” scene i can confidently say i’ve watched it like at least 50 times, it has not gotten old at all and i still feel the same amount of awe as i did the first time i saw it
(Across the Spiderverse spoilers) Even in the next movie, hearing the Prowler elephant sound sent chills down my spine. Every part of this story is perfect, even years later.
The best part of the "Spider Motif" is that Pemberton literally wrote it to where you could actually sing the name "Spider-Man" along with it. Source: Film's Commentary
When he is falling and shoots his webs up to grapple something, instead of worrying if they are actually going to grab something, his eyes enter a state of determination. For me that is the single best frame in the film.
Y'all want some more really cool details in just that one scene? 1. When Miles leaps off the skyscraper and the city turns upside-down for him, it represents his rise from his starting point - he's not falling, he's rising. 2. When Miles is swinging through the city, he implements a lot of parkour elements because he told Peter B. Parker that he prefers running over swinging after the laboratory escape. 3. The spider-motif plays at the very end of the sequence when he takes his mask off to breath, signaling he's truly become Spiderman or at least a spider-person. 4. As he lets go of the skyscraper and the glass shards follow him, it could represent either of two things: He's terrified but finally understands that he needs to take that leap of faith OR that he finally understands how to relax during these stressful moments like Peter B. Parker told him in the lab scene at 9:54
A little late but yes the glass shattering was representing how Miles is actually terrified to take the leap of faith, but he has to anyway and that he has to face his fears of the great expectations (btw I LOVED how they made his book essay that really this movie is wonderful!) that are set upon him. The thought, love, and time put into this movie shine brilliantly throughout the whole sequence and it’s so wonderfully made that this movie will absolutely go down in comic, animation, and movie history❤️
You also forgot one thing, at the beginning of "What's Up Danger" it plays the distorted elephant sound, the sound that only played when the prowler/Miles' uncle was in a scene. If that sound represents The Prowler, and "Whats Up Danger" represents Miles figuring out who he is, then Miles wouldn't be who he is at the apotheosis of the film without influence from his uncle and his uncle's death.
The spray cans are actually in Miles' score?!!! HOW??!! HOW CAN THEY MAKE ME LOVE A MOVIE MORE THAN I ALREADY DO?!! That's thematically brilliant, that's narratively brilliant.
This movie really does everything right. But I think the reason why is in details exactly like that. You don't turn spray cans into hi hats unless you A: deeply understand the character, and (most importantly) B: really **love** the character. That's what's missing from so many blockbuster super movies (*cough*DC*cough*). It's clear that not only do they not really get their own property, they don't care about it either. That's the fabric that makes all of this work: everyone who worked on Spiderverse cares about and loves Spiderman. That's what's needed. When the people making the movie love the characters as deeply as a child opening their first comic book, it will show through in every aspect of the film.
Fun fact: miles is animated in 12FPS while Peter is animated in 24FPS to point out that miles isn’t as experienced as Peter. Just pointing out how much of a masterpiece this movie is
also, later in the movie when miles learns to control his powers, he gets animated in 24FPS too, showing that he's learned a lot and become a true spider-person
I find it weird when people criticize the soundtrack. I felt it fit it perfectly, also the score with it worked amazingly well. Seriously, just because it's "popular music" (even though most of the rap used isn't even the genre of rap that's popular, except for Sunflower and whatever Juice Wrld's was), doesn't mean it's going to ruin the movie. It was supposed to take place now so it makes more sense than 90's rap. Edit, 2 years later: damn, too many of you are just racist, and use you "disliking rap" to cover it up 😳
NerdyTigerT I just think it was used in some bad times. like after a few death scenes there's a wierd upbeat motif. I'll get back with specifics if I watch it again
i know this is a dunce observation but the fact that the leitmotifs highlighted are all 3 notes makes me feel like theyre intended to literally be singing out "spi-der-man"
Holy crap. You’re right. The dotted quarter note, the eighth note, to the half note, is literally a musically phonetic way of saying Spider-Man. You win for the day.
I noticed the same thing last month as well and found an audio interview/score commentary featuring Daniel Pemberton, confirming that it was intentional at the end of it.
This is one of the greatest movies of the last decade. It’s one of the movies where you watch and just think “This is art”. It’s not a movie, it’s not a movie about spider people, it’s just pure, unfiltered, Art.
The Octave leap is the *leap of faith* leitmotif: It goes up and down because its a leap of faith. Its a jump up and down while staying true to what you are. The last note sounds different from the first even though it's the same (due to the intervals) This is to show that a leap of faith changes you. You have no idea where you'll end up, but you ACTUALLY find yourself in a new way. That's all it is A leap of faith
On top of this, the second motif, referenced here as the "spider motif", is the same pattern of notes of the word "spiderman" in the original spiderman cartoon theme song.
Another thing is that when Miles sees Peter Parker you see green and purple the colors of 'The Prowler' seeing that if Miles stayed with Aaron longer he would have become the next Prowler but he meets The Peter Parker you see it fade to blue and red the colors of Spider-Man meaning in that him meeting Peter Parker changed him into Spider-Manor his view or whatever.Imagine what evil could have been done with his unique powers.
Yes! I love how there’s such a contrast between Miles and the Prowler and yet their family resemblance and similarities show how easily Miles could have gone astray and ended up like the Prowler. There’s honestly so much about this movie I love; it’s an utter masterpiece
the reason I genuinely think this film belongs with the greats (being one of the best of all time), is because you can make so many videos like this talking about aspect of what's good. you can never mention everything
Nicholas Cage was by far the best choice for noir Spiderman. I can't think of a single person who's better fit for that campy, angsty, edgelord poetic bullshit that belongs in the most dramatic telenovela to the point where mcr would cut themselves on that cheese knife of edge.
the Watcher that’s the thing, all of the spider-people could be entertaining on their own. Spider-Pig the least so, but I still think it could be done in a TV show format.
when i first heard the "elephant sound" associated with prowler it immediately made me think of similar motifs asssociated with the winter soldier in catws and with helena in orphan black. so now to me, it's the "this villain seems really bad but they're actually good and secretely close to the hero" motif :')
They all sound like screams. Literally, the Winter Soldier leitmotif was based off sound of Bucky's screams in CA:TWS. All of these motifs sound like people and they sound like pain - not a bad way to indicate that there is more to these characters than meets the eye.
Fun fact: Spider Ham actually WASN'T bitten by a radioactive spider Peter Porker was a spider that was bitten by a radioactive pig, and transformed into a pig while still retaining the abilities of a spider Also, this was a great video. I don't have great hearing so the music in films tends to go over my head, and it's really nice to hear about the musical identity of films I love from someone who knows what they're talking about
One of my favorite scenes in spider-verse is when Myles first goes in the lab area construction site place. All the voices in his head go quiet and then the text 'watch out' appears behind him. It may be a small almost insignificant Scene but that moment in its entirety made me absolutely fall in love with the movie before I'd even reached the end.
Not insignificant at all! It signals the first real importance of his spider sense, emphasizes the comic book aesthetic, introduces Earth-1610 Peter Parker (the one from Miles's home universe), sucks Miles into the dangers of the superhero world, introduces us to the setting that will be both the start and end of the main external conflict.... it's an extremely important scene!
If you know the og spiderman theme song by heart you'll know that when that "Look out!" shows up, here comes the Spiderman. My brother went wild when he realized that after watching the movie a second time for the little details
I like that they went out of their way to make it sound like it was recorded on location. In a lot of other animated movies, conversations between characters sound like a podcast with way too much clarity but here you can hardly notice the difference between this and live-action. It's part of why the movie feels so human.
Also, During the Mi Familia scene the music gets quieter when Miles DOESN'T have his headphones on, then it picks up the volume when he does!! Just a neat little thing I noticed literally 10 seconds ago while watching hflavslsbs
And after his uncle dies, it gets placed into whats up danger. I am surprised this video did not mention it. He still wants to honor his uncle, even knowing the truth, for the man he was to Myles.
He didn't mention that at the beginning of the "What's Up Danger" scene, Prowler's theme is also playing faintly, a little bit pitched down to be more brass.
I'd like to point out the fact that, in your videos, you don't put music in between musical examples to fill in the space. I like that you do this, because the silence between examples allows for me to think about what you're explaining while having the piece in my head. Very cool!
Okay gonna rant: Spiderman into the spiderverse (SITS) captured something that many other spiderman films did not: the identity of spiderman. Constantly the spiderman films (Toby Mcguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland) mess around with the identity of Spiderman but always revolve it being around one thing "with great power comes great responsibility". Thats it. Theres little tid bits added but honestly, thats the gist. But SITS? Nope. Responsibility isnt the focus of the movie. And you may think: "Ah, yeah it is? Miles has to learn the responsibilty of becoming Spiderman?" And in a way, yeah. He does. But that is NOT the focal point of this movie or any of the characters. Its about identity. The identity of who these characters are. And it was touched on a little in this analysis. Every little detail added to the movie is about giving the characters identity. The music, the scenery, colours - fucking everything. And that is why this movie rules. Because this isnt about responsibilty. Anyone can become responsible. Its about identity and what you become. That scene where miles jumps? The breathtaking moment of animation? That epic scene is him finding his identity and why it works so well. The music is so bold and heavy and deep because the scene itself is a bold, heavy, deep moment for Miles. I could honestly gush about this movie and every amazing thing it does fpr hours and Im so happy that sideways made a vid on the music. Loved it!
This: "Honestly Miles don't do it like I did, you gotta do it like YOU" It makes you feel proud seeing Miles taking on the role of Spider-Man, a new hero, and not just a copy "wanna be". And it was somewhat nostalgic that our boy Peter left his legacy. I think it was the best thing they could have done for Miles, I know there were many people who didn't really like this character or didn't take him seriously because they saw it as a replacement for our good old Spider-Man Peter. This was a great way to give him the best welcome movie ever. Miles Morales, welcome to the Marvel universe ;)
@@3sikesimdead946 I think it’s because the writers had so many ideas for Miles’ character but they just didn’t know how to show it or put it in a senseable way, which just led to a big mess. The creators of Spider-verse saw this, and were like: “Hey... I can fix this” At least that’s what I think happened.
*”the way he leaps off of rooftops and flips backwards to face the camera before falling into a headfirst dive is just full of the exaggerated swagger of a black teen”*
Every time I hear something about how this film was made, my mind is blown. This video has shown me how to appreciate it more. I was just listening to random cool soundtracks and the Shoulder Touch song played, I've never heard this song by itself, but I totally heard Miles leitmotif at the beginning, and then the Spiderman leitmotif comes in afterwards, and it was amazing!!! I totally knew what was happening in the scene without having to watch it, and I loved it! Thank you for this new appreciation of music in films and how they are used in storytelling.
It’s KILLING ME that no one has mentioned that those two themes are literally based on the words “SPI-der Man”. And that the spider person theme comes as a direct rhythmic quote from the original animated show theme song spider-man. So good!
I can't believe you didn't mention my favorite part of this scene: one of the biggest barriers for Miles to mastering his powers is controlling his fear. It's directly why he couldn't control his adhesive/stick to walls power, and is additionally stated in the "leap of faith," the culmination of Miles overcoming the boundary of fear. What makes this so impactful is that Miles overcomes the *boundary* of his fear, but not the fear itself. He is still terrified in the scene, but he is controlling his fear for the greater good. This is seen in the way the glass breaks under his hand as he leaps from the building (as his sticking powers are based on whether he's afraid or relaxed), and because the leitmotif for Prowler plays during this sequence. It represents his fear and the way he now has power over that fear: Prowler is terrifying to Miles, but Prowler's motif is used here to support this climax of Miles' character--the moment he truly becomes Spiderman.
And now that w know more about the universe and Miles' identity after the sequel came out, it becomes even more genius. Everything about this is so genuinely awesome I just can't
Even as someone who doesn't like hip-hop, I couldn't help but feel myself cheering for Miles during the scene and rightfully so it would seem considering how much work, thought, and layers were built for his apotheosis .
Hip hop is kinda like country music... even if you don't like it, part of your body still wants to react to and move with the music. Find any quality hip hop, or country song and your brain will just want to dance or get with the rhythm. Others are more obvious like disco or electronic music.. but I think hip hop and country have that weird sort of subtle similarity that no one notices.
also at the end of the movie when he talks about how anyone could wear the mask, as the camera pans around him... we get a dramatic build up that leads an incredibly triumphant version of the "spider motif" as the he says "because im spider man -and im not the only one" followed shortly by the song were heard when being introduced to Miles
So "what's up danger" is literally Miles' Hero's Journey encompassed through one song by combining musical motifs that represent the Known, Unknown and the passage between the two, and this theme plays at the literal peak of said journey. That's Godlike.
@@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888 it's something that was said in a review of the Miles Morales video game that recently came out. It was such a weird bad line that people really latched onto it.
I like the fact that the Spider Motif musically actually says, "Spi-Der-Man!" Much like how the Superman theme, by the directors own admission, says "It's Su-per-man!" with the fanfare
Nearly a year after watching the video and reading this, it occurred to me - Miles' own motif, as heard throughout the whole movie, could be saying "Mo-Ra-Les" as well.
Maybe even better since Undertale's repeats of motifs can sometimes end up not quite telling the story they're tied to, but that's more of a subtle thing.
@@eos_aurora Undertale’s kinda known for its use of motifs everyone between songs in its soundtrack, Snowdin town is in Hopes and Dreams, Alphys’s theme is the first melody in Here We Are, the ghost characters and Muffet all share a song to some extent, it’s a big web between all the songs.
@@eos_aurora Pretty much everysingle song share mottifs with one another. All the main characters have one and most of their battles share mottifs with others (Battle agianst a true hero with The ruins mottif, Death by Glamour with a bunch of the Core and Mettaton, Finale with His theme and Flowey's theme)
I just watched this film yesterday and it's a perfect film for this channel to talk about. The music really gives it a unique feel and tells more about the protagonist.
"theres this notion of miles carving his own path with the gifts that hes given even if it isn't necessarily what others want for him" ohhh my god they amplfied it x100 for across the spiderverse, poor miles
I think it’s cool that that spider motif rhythm is just like the rhythm of the old school Spider-Man theme (Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does whatever a spider can, that one) I guess it could be coincidence but if not it’s really cool.
Have you ever noticed a similar thing in the Christopher Nolan Batman movie score? The main theme of that franchise is the same note sequence as "na-na-na-na Batman!"
Nice touch, the music stopping when the headphones fell off. Thanks for another good look at the work that goes into the music and how wonderful talented those creators can be.
Kinda sad that the fact that the prowler motif being added to whats up danger as well wasnt talked about cause it was part of the journey and metamorphosis and it being incorporated was huge.
One of my favorite things that I saw someone point out closer to when the movie came out is that in the beginning and (now that i'm relistening to it) throughout What's Up Danger the Prowler theme is played. I think that theme not only represents Aaron and The Prowler, but also fear and uncertainty? Like, before you learn that it's Aaron behind the Prowler mask, you hear that theme and it is just completely overwhelming. You're immediately scared and dreading what's going to happen next. And I feel like when it's played at the beginning of/throughout What's Up Danger it represents Miles facing his fears and taking that leap of faith. It says that Uncle Aaron is a part of what's brought him so far, but also having to be brave and confront things that terrify him. I could go on about this movie for days, it's so good, fuck.
4:02 I heard that octave and immediately thought of the movement spider-man does when he swings up and down, up and down. Also can I just say that I'm really, really glad you're talking about the music in this movie cause I think the music is 100% part of why this film is so great!
As an animation writing nerd, this analysis on the music fully supporting and cranking up the themes of this movie (which is probably the most technically ambitious AND successful animated movies in the past decade) to 11 got me SO emotional. I’m going through all your videos since my friend showed me the Cats one the other day and I could literally listen to you talk about leitmotifs forever.
The “What’s Up, Danger” scene is possibly my favorite scene in a movie ever. Listening to you pull apart the music and then put it back together made me wave my hands in critical analysis glee.
I freeking LOVE this movie's score. While it doesn't replace Elfman's classic theme it is most certainly one of the best scores of 2018 in my opinion. The more I learn about this movie the more I love it.
11:02 didnt even bring up that the motif itself is a tiny journey. The home note, an alien version of the homenote, alien in that its not the same its an octave, return to the homenote. Also its amazing to see such a simple measure, is the driving force of the whole score, proves you dont need complicated slides, and triplets and all that to make good music.
Watching a 1 and half hour movie to learn a concept is a lot better than watching a 3 season series. Although I agree, avatar is the best heroes journey in commercial media, it would just take too much time.
Every new thing i learn about this movie makes me appreciate it more. So much love went into it. This is the kind of movie people make when they really care about their art.
My favorite thing about this kind of movie is that you can really tell when the people working on it love the source material. As a Spider-Man fan, this movie was perfect.
I love how in the closing score we get a recap of all the different leitmotifs. While Miles is recapping his journey/leap-of-faith we get the octave jump up. When he reaches the conclusion of his journey - he is spiderman - we get the whole-step jump down. And then the music that represents his identity plays, tying the end back to when we first met him (the conclusion, the hero's return).
That Prowler theme is one of the best Villain themes I’ve heard this century
Geahk Burchill it haunts me
_Killmonger's theme_
it honestly gives me anxiety when I hear it and that's amazing
@@stephecho5916 I was gonna say that. It's almost as if embracing other musical influences than brass orchestras is good to make memorable themes. Similarly, the use of Immigrant song in Thor ragnarok really sticks out. The whole licensed soundtrack of guardian of the galaxy as well. It's a shame Wonder woman also went for a mostly unsurprising soundtrack rather than expand from a very original theme for a superhero.
Supervillain theme open.spotify.com/track/2hhwbQWk0RDQM5luQF6f51?si=skPMTnVTSmmuh_HsfadScw
The hair on my arms during that entire scene: ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
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Yooooo, same
That scene would NOT be the same without the mix of the original hip-hop, and the super hero-esque brass instruments blaring next to it. I had GOOSEBUMPS ALL OVER MY BODY.
Artuno i’m so disappointed that they didn’t put the film version of the song on the official soundtrack! the superhero music in the background makes it so much better!
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*AND ON THAT SCENE*, he finally becomes animated by 24 frames per second, which before he had about 16 to give that feeling that he's cluncky while the other characters graciously (as already complete heroes) were on 24 frames per second all the time. This movies is nuts man, a true masterpiece.
OH MY GOSH!!! HOW DO THEY DO THIS TO ME?!! This movie is just brilliant ART. HOLY CRAP!!
it was 12 fps, they had him animated at half speed. but yes this movie is awesome
YES I LOVE THIS INFO MOVIES ARE MAGIC
OMG is that true?
@@CanelonVegano yes the producer (?) talked about it on a video, search the making of spider man into the spider verse
*slams fists down on a table* THIS MOVIE IS SO GOOD
edit: *punches through a wall* THE SEQUEL IS SO GOOD
*shakes you* SOOO GOOD
*bangs head on wall* SOOO FUCKING GOOD
*smashes head through glass* , *screams* this movie is *so good*
*JUMPS OFF THE BUILDING HEAD FIRST* SOOOOO GOOOD
*Slam fists down on a table*
*fists slam spider man down on a pile of rubble*
One thing I kinda want to add about the “What’s Up Danger” scene - in the script it’s written that “the camera is flipped. Miles isn’t falling. He’s rising“
It's all perspective.
Woah
his literal and figurative ascension. man, this movie
Why can't I 💜 react to this comment? 😭
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My favorite use of the Prowlers Theme is when Peter B Parker shows up. His shadow looks particularly "Prowlery" and the Theme begins to play but as it's revealed that it's actually Peter B, it transforms into nothing more than the sound of the screeching subway.
OMG just noticed that lol
That shit was top shelf
it would take hours to scrutinize every little detail and admire every piece of work and applaud the amount of effort and love that went into making this movie, from the animation department to the scoring, writing and directing.
Yeah I totally thought it was Prowler the first time I saw it
I prefer the movie version of "what's up danger" because it's so triumphant and feels so much more powerful
Yeah I need someone to release a version from the movie
you can find it on youtube, but not spotify/itunes/pandora or any other music platform😔
is this a joke?
It gave me chills
Yo nice profile pic fellow dead meme
I am still disappointed this version of 'What's up Danger' is not in the soundtrack.
same, it’s so iconic
I agree. The film version is gorgeous!
Same, I wish it were!
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@@g4dsworld471 thank you very much for this
I like that no one even tries to say that "spider mans uncle will die" is a spoiler anymore. It's just expected of a spider man character
In the alternate universe cut of the movie, they show a deleted scene where Miles' friend (who had a much bigger role originally) directly says that they needed to find his 'Uncle Ben'. I'm glad they didn't keep that tbh, by the time Aaron gets shot in the movie, the first time around I had kinda forgot about the whole "Spiderman's uncle dies" thing and it got me out of nowhere that OH YEAH THIS IS HIS UNCLE THERE'S NO WAY HE'S GONNA SURVIVE THIS MOVIE
Omg how did I not make that connection until now *facepalm*
Well, it could be parental or close person to the spider person Co sidering Gwen and Penny
OH i just realised thats why miles' uncle had to die i'm so stupid
except, of course, Tom Holland’s Spider-Man
Honestly though, literally everything about this movie is a masterpiece.
Oh my gosh, YES. How this was not nominated for Best Picture is beyond me. Oh yeah I know why, IT'S BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY THINKS ANIMATION IS JUST FOR KIDS.
truly. i could not name one bad thing abt this film tbh
Gray Au hahahahaha funny joke
Gray Au
Just checked your playlists and it seems you are a fan of EDM/hip hop, and yet your opinion on this movie’s music is that it’s shit? Bit weird, but okay.
@@realar The reason it wasn't nominated for best picture had nothing to do with being animated, but because it was a superhero movie, and Black Panther already had a nomination... Imagine not only to nominate for the first time a superhero movie, but do it twice. The irony is The Dark Knight was the reason they expanded the best movie category, and they still don't respect comic adaptations (Yes, I 'm talking about you Scorsese)...
I like that you can sometimes hear the Prowler elephant sound during the sequence too, because Uncle Aaron is part of what makes Miles who he is.
I was just about to say that, it's such a key detail
Fun fact: He also runs on the walls similar to Uncle Aaron too!
Fun fact: Mile's theme in reverse is the prowler's theme.
Funfact: The "elephant noise" is The Siren Head roar back before it was famouse
But a more triumphant version
Here's a fun fact that not many people talk about: Miles keeps his shoes untied during the movie and whenever someone pointed it out he'd say "it's a choice," that 'choice' led to him tripping on his shoelaces and falling off the building, inevitably breaking the USB.
after the accident you never see him have his shoes untied
@@speedboatinterview7944 dude what the fuck. It is that sort of attention to detail that completely trips me out. Everything in this movie is so cohesive. Absolutely wows me every time I watch it.
The attention to detail is incredible, tbh this is definitely one of the best movies to come out on the 2010s, I see why it was in the works for so many years it's amazing
@@speedboatinterview7944 holy shit i didnt even notice that
There other movies that do that you do know that
The scene where Miles' dad is talking to him on the other side of the door is so powerful, I love how the camera angle shows the audience that they are literally and figuratively divided
Also as the scene progresses, his dad leans closer to the door and crosses the halfway point of the screen, as he is physically and emotionally trying to get closer to his son at the same time.
I literally cry every time I see it.
Yeah it's one of my favorites. Also I was the 666th liker 😅
@@nyxs_time_alone wow i had no idea this comment even had that many likes thinks for the 666 lol
Yes! Miles and his father are divided in this scene AND in the first scene the two have together in the car--the cop-car grate and the separation of the front and backseats intentionally separate the two characters. And notice how these two scenes are specifically dealing with the divide Miles and his father are struggling with--it's why, at the end of the movie, it's significant that Miles is able to hug his father, because it's the culmination of the journey their personal relationship went through
In the first, they are divided and the efforts to bond fall flat. In the second, Jefferson is making a sincere effort to try and connect to Miles, and the two of them lean against the door--trying to bridge that gap, but not being able to, and in the third, there is no divide--and that's why Miles hugs his father at the end
I started crying when you showed how they made the hi-hat noises out of Miles' spraypaint cans- god, they cared *so much* when making this movie, this soundtrack is the sound of real artists pouring their passion into these characters and this world. God, it's so beautiful and so sweet. You don't see passion like this in many films these days.
Watch the CinemaWins video on Spider-Man: Into the Spider Verse you won't regret it
Please don't use gods name in vain
@@barryjeffrey7545 god shut up
Barry Jeffrey it wasn’t even in vain it’s not like they said “god damn it”, they said “god it’s so beautiful” ????? what are you on
Barry Jeffrey shut your goddamn mouth
Fun fact, sunflower was still being written while the movie was in the works, so the very first scene with miles where he just hums and all the other scenes where he hums is because the song wasnt finished.
makes sense. Because Post Malone's writing process is that he first makes the melody and then fill in the words
They also animated the first miles scene at the end of the movie
It sounds exactly like how anyone who doesn’t know the words exactly sings tho XD
@@zodix44 and the song itself is about a faithless partner shit talking their gf so really, the humming is better.
i think it was bc they wanted to show how it actually is singing to a song, you won’t know all the lyrics at first so you just kinda hum some parts, they wanted to make a relatable scene basically
I would pay millions to see this movie again for the first time.
Ikr? Dude the chills when miles jumped off the building backward
@@infamous1403 yeah the movie is peak
I am SO late to this and I’m gonna watch it for the first time tonight! I am STOKED!!! 🥳
@@EdwardCullen667 NICE! its so good
just wait til you see the new one
That scene was literally breathtaking. Spiderverse was unironically the best superhero film I’ve ever seen.
Another little detail: It’s established that Miles clings to things when he gets stressed out. When he jumps the glass under his fingers breaks, meaning he was very stressed and couldn’t release it. He was terrified and he jumped anyway. A true Leap of Faith.
Brilliant.
FUCK. That's brilliant.
“No, your breath taking” -Keanu reeves
Oh my god
Yo I didn't notice that!!
"Spider-Ham" is actually a spider that was bitten by a radioactive pig. Just wanted to clear out the biggest mistake of this video. It's clearly visible in it's origin story short.
my favorite part about that is when they're all doing their intros with the three panels next to each other and Noir & Peni (whose bite moments are showing on the left & middle panels) say "I was bitten by a radioactive spider" but Ham (whose transformation from spider to pig is showing on the rightmost panel) says "radioactive pig" instead, both Noir and Peni look over at his panel in confusion. It's blink-and-you-miss-it subtle, but it's great.
so his name should be Ham-Spider
@@chipgw I noticed that on my first watch
Ended up rewatching the scene multiple times
How did the spider live that
I expected it to be a pun from the simpsons
I’d just like to say that the contrast is amazing from modern hip hop to hearing Biggie as we’re introduced to uncle Aaron, communicating how Miles and Aaron are kindred spirits although from different generations.
Simply Complicated perfection
I turn up every time they start that beat lol, see me jumping on the couch to that rhythm
That's mother fucking bars nigga
This movie is electrifying. The soundtrack is a huge part of that.
literally. getting the whole "what's up danger" sequence after getting emotionally gut punched is like getting fisted by the largest hands on earth and then pulling out quickly to stop the pain
@@catsinwonderland7473 that is a…very interesting comparison 🤨
I would like to also point out that when miles is ready to become spider man he merges part of his identity (graffiti) with the spider man identity (the suit)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we all noticed that.
Nash Feighny well some of us didn’t, or just didn’t really know how to put it.
I thought he was just spray painting the suit for it to look dope
Stellvia Hoenheim yeah, that’s not true....
Isaac Thompson no
I just noticed that gwen plays rock with a traditional stick grip instead of match, thats kinda cool
I totally know what that means
omg I didn’t notice before but I love that detail
That is super cool
@@Irrationaaaaal watch her left hand, traditional stick grip is found almost always in marching bands or playing the kit in a jazz band.
@@bryanatley3164 and “match”?
anyone else think the elephant sound is really terrifying?
It scared the crap out of me in the theater
Feels more like a fog horn
Owan Mah it gives me chills every time
And I love it
It scares me every time
That's the point.
shoutout to the horn player playing all those octaves, that's not easy to make sound as buttery smooth as they did
I do feel like there is a bit of post processing to acknowledge as well. Perhaps layering with a Kontakt sample library along with some EQ and compression
It's why they get paid the big bucks. My horn professor knew some Hollywood players and they're superhuman.
“Or when his Uncle Aaron dies”
*lays down. Tries not to cry. Cries a lot*
*sad elephant noise*
I had to pause for a couple of sobs
honestly as soon as the spider appears on screen you had to know that Aaron was not gonna last the movie.
@@alex0589 😂😂
(Alex) NO I’M CACKLING AND SOBBING AT THE SAME TIME WTF 😭
The movie does literally everything correct wtf
Except one thing
@@langianimations416 care to elaborate? I'm curious
@@langianimations416 what?
@@langianimations416 I can only think of one thing in my opinion is a miss is the when spider ham introduces himself. The wet hand joke is eh, but that's just me kind of nitpicking
Other than that the movie is fantastic
honestly, i kind of find the part where he instantly gets his powers is pretty cliche and lazy. he should have gradually earned them or something to show us that they don't come from nowhere.
Seriously the song itself can be Miles' anthem for the next few movies
Could be cool if Pemberton takes new leitmotifs and reincorporates What’s Up Danger into them, like some kind of extreme thematic reharmonization.
_hears the first three notes in a future movie_
Me: HERE COMES MILES!!!
yea cause he black
who said anything about race
Plus, the music holds up years later by giving the same emotions you felt the first time, Tuned down a little because you know what is coming, but you still feel terrified of the Prowler, saddened during Scared of the Dark, and triumphant during What's Up Danger. The music helps this movie so amazing, and it wouldn't be the same without it.
Oh i’ve done like 2 projects analyzing the “whats up danger” scene i can confidently say i’ve watched it like at least 50 times, it has not gotten old at all and i still feel the same amount of awe as i did the first time i saw it
Nothing is turned down. Every single time i hear the soundtrack, i go into a crying mess. So good man.
(Across the Spiderverse spoilers) Even in the next movie, hearing the Prowler elephant sound sent chills down my spine. Every part of this story is perfect, even years later.
”And whenever we see the Prowler onscreen we get this distorted elephant sound.”
Me: **frantically turns down volume**
haha
it literally scares me so much i love it
Right? My cinema had the volume really high and I got a jump-scare *every single time* it was played.
@@onyxiris Fear.
It's one of the scariest villain themes ever made
The best part of the "Spider Motif" is that Pemberton literally wrote it to where you could actually sing the name "Spider-Man" along with it.
Source: Film's Commentary
Jacob Hill holy shit i didn’t noticed that!!
*SPIII, DERRRR MAAANN*
i was thinking that it felt kinda reminiscent of the classic Spider-Man theme, now i see why XD
Now that you mention it, it actually sounds more like Pepsiman theme to me
I cant stop doing it
As a total nerd when it comes to analyzing movie scores, discovering this channel was such a delight.
I get way too excited
Agreed, love this channel!
When he is falling and shoots his webs up to grapple something, instead of worrying if they are actually going to grab something, his eyes enter a state of determination. For me that is the single best frame in the film.
@doveleo About 3:21
@doveleo np
Y'all want some more really cool details in just that one scene?
1. When Miles leaps off the skyscraper and the city turns upside-down for him, it represents his rise from his starting point - he's not falling, he's rising.
2. When Miles is swinging through the city, he implements a lot of parkour elements because he told Peter B. Parker that he prefers running over swinging after the laboratory escape.
3. The spider-motif plays at the very end of the sequence when he takes his mask off to breath, signaling he's truly become Spiderman or at least a spider-person.
4. As he lets go of the skyscraper and the glass shards follow him, it could represent either of two things: He's terrified but finally understands that he needs to take that leap of faith OR that he finally understands how to relax during these stressful moments like Peter B. Parker told him in the lab scene at 9:54
A little late but yes the glass shattering was representing how Miles is actually terrified to take the leap of faith, but he has to anyway and that he has to face his fears of the great expectations (btw I LOVED how they made his book essay that really this movie is wonderful!) that are set upon him. The thought, love, and time put into this movie shine brilliantly throughout the whole sequence and it’s so wonderfully made that this movie will absolutely go down in comic, animation, and movie history❤️
And he promised his uncle to do better...be better...
What is “Spider Motif?”
damn.. so Miles is like the Joker
transformation
@@yoshithebear7630 Watch the video and find out
You also forgot one thing, at the beginning of "What's Up Danger" it plays the distorted elephant sound, the sound that only played when the prowler/Miles' uncle was in a scene. If that sound represents The Prowler, and "Whats Up Danger" represents Miles figuring out who he is, then Miles wouldn't be who he is at the apotheosis of the film without influence from his uncle and his uncle's death.
I noticed this as well on my 3rd watch in theaters lmao. It gave me chills so hard
I noticed that too!! It was one of my favorite aspects of the movie
If that’s true, then it’s a nice parallel with how important Uncle Ben was to Peter’s origin story
I feel like it represents fear. Miles ran from the Prowler before and what it represented.
He's not running now.
UP
The spray cans are actually in Miles' score?!!! HOW??!! HOW CAN THEY MAKE ME LOVE A MOVIE MORE THAN I ALREADY DO?!! That's thematically brilliant, that's narratively brilliant.
This movie really does everything right. But I think the reason why is in details exactly like that. You don't turn spray cans into hi hats unless you A: deeply understand the character, and (most importantly) B: really **love** the character. That's what's missing from so many blockbuster super movies (*cough*DC*cough*). It's clear that not only do they not really get their own property, they don't care about it either. That's the fabric that makes all of this work: everyone who worked on Spiderverse cares about and loves Spiderman. That's what's needed. When the people making the movie love the characters as deeply as a child opening their first comic book, it will show through in every aspect of the film.
@@Soosss They cant make a good movie on command 🙂
Fun fact: miles is animated in 12FPS while Peter is animated in 24FPS to point out that miles isn’t as experienced as Peter. Just pointing out how much of a masterpiece this movie is
also, later in the movie when miles learns to control his powers, he gets animated in 24FPS too, showing that he's learned a lot and become a true spider-person
That's so fucking cool.
@@art-stuff-i-guess It shifts in the forest when his swings come into sync with Peter, yeah. It's freakin' brilliant.
here I was thinking the framerate was to make it look more comic book-like
@@caramelldansen2204 It's both
It's funny how i went through all the spiderverse videos i could find, and not in a single one of them the movie was ever criticized
cough cough CinemaSins cough
@@michaelaj5977 lol but even he admitted he loved this movie
@@michaelaj5977 I mean he admitted he loves it
also that’s like.. his job
The only complaint I have is that it was too short, honestly.
@@Iliadic Good thing it's getting a sequel then
I find it weird when people criticize the soundtrack. I felt it fit it perfectly, also the score with it worked amazingly well. Seriously, just because it's "popular music" (even though most of the rap used isn't even the genre of rap that's popular, except for Sunflower and whatever Juice Wrld's was), doesn't mean it's going to ruin the movie. It was supposed to take place now so it makes more sense than 90's rap.
Edit, 2 years later: damn, too many of you are just racist, and use you "disliking rap" to cover it up 😳
NerdyTigerT I just think it was used in some bad times. like after a few death scenes there's a wierd upbeat motif. I'll get back with specifics if I watch it again
@@littlebiglsteele4158 I do agree with that, like "Scared of the Dark" playing, especially after Spider-Man's death.
NerdyTigerT yeah that's the one
did you watch the same video as everyone else
L noted
i know this is a dunce observation but the fact that the leitmotifs highlighted are all 3 notes makes me feel like theyre intended to literally be singing out "spi-der-man"
Holy crap. You’re right. The dotted quarter note, the eighth note, to the half note, is literally a musically phonetic way of saying Spider-Man. You win for the day.
I noticed the same thing last month as well and found an audio interview/score commentary featuring Daniel Pemberton, confirming that it was intentional at the end of it.
wow that's a neat find!!
W0
*_Spidah-man!_*
This is one of the greatest movies of the last decade. It’s one of the movies where you watch and just think “This is art”. It’s not a movie, it’s not a movie about spider people, it’s just pure, unfiltered, Art.
Peter: ”where’s that wind coming from? we’re in the basement.”
Spider-Noir: “wherever I go, the wind follows.”
such amazingness.
Plot twist: it's just his farts
Bumblebee and it smells like rain 🌧
direcircumstances r/youngpeopleyoutube
@@z4ikle345 r/Ihavereddit
Lilly King r/shutthefuckup
The Octave leap is the *leap of faith* leitmotif:
It goes up and down because its a leap of faith. Its a jump up and down while staying true to what you are. The last note sounds different from the first even though it's the same (due to the intervals)
This is to show that a leap of faith changes you. You have no idea where you'll end up, but you ACTUALLY find yourself in a new way. That's all it is
A leap of faith
On top of this, the second motif, referenced here as the "spider motif", is the same pattern of notes of the word "spiderman" in the original spiderman cartoon theme song.
Woah. That's really good.
@@Buteo Woah. That's ALSO really good!
an OCTAVE leap, eh?
@@nicolassagrillo1442 i don't get it?
Not to mention a subdued Prowler's theme is the backing beat of What's Up Danger
Yeah, I'd guess symbolizing how the prowler was a backboard for this spiders start
@@DTux5249
Both as a villain and a hero, damn son
“Distorted elephant sound”
Thanks I can’t unhear that now
That is because that's exactly what it is
@@JohnFrikkinGrammaticus but it sounded so good when i didn’t know 😭
@@JohnFrikkinGrammaticus actually it is a part of miles’ theme edited to be scary
@@roburt8528 No, it's not...it's literally shown *in this video* how it was made.
Another thing is that when Miles sees Peter Parker you see green and purple the colors of 'The Prowler' seeing that if Miles stayed with Aaron longer he would have become the next Prowler but he meets The Peter Parker you see it fade to blue and red the colors of Spider-Man meaning in that him meeting Peter Parker changed him into Spider-Manor his view or whatever.Imagine what evil could have been done with his unique powers.
dayum , never thought of it like that
As well as miles is just learning how to sense, so it took a moment to turn red and blue.
Yes! I love how there’s such a contrast between Miles and the Prowler and yet their family resemblance and similarities show how easily Miles could have gone astray and ended up like the Prowler. There’s honestly so much about this movie I love; it’s an utter masterpiece
H o o o ly cow. Christ. Oh god.
But fr imagine of miles DID turn evil
the reason I genuinely think this film belongs with the greats (being one of the best of all time), is because you can make so many videos like this talking about aspect of what's good. you can never mention everything
Where’s that wind coming from we’re in a basement
Noir: 😏
Nicholas Cage was by far the best choice for noir Spiderman. I can't think of a single person who's better fit for that campy, angsty, edgelord poetic bullshit that belongs in the most dramatic telenovela to the point where mcr would cut themselves on that cheese knife of edge.
@@spinningpeanut well damn
A Movie just about him would be great
the Watcher that’s the thing, all of the spider-people could be entertaining on their own. Spider-Pig the least so, but I still think it could be done in a TV show format.
when i first heard the "elephant sound" associated with prowler it immediately made me think of similar motifs asssociated with the winter soldier in catws and with helena in orphan black. so now to me, it's the "this villain seems really bad but they're actually good and secretely close to the hero" motif :')
They all sound like screams. Literally, the Winter Soldier leitmotif was based off sound of Bucky's screams in CA:TWS. All of these motifs sound like people and they sound like pain - not a bad way to indicate that there is more to these characters than meets the eye.
Fun fact: Spider Ham actually WASN'T bitten by a radioactive spider
Peter Porker was a spider that was bitten by a radioactive pig, and transformed into a pig while still retaining the abilities of a spider
Also, this was a great video. I don't have great hearing so the music in films tends to go over my head, and it's really nice to hear about the musical identity of films I love from someone who knows what they're talking about
How did the spider survive being bitten by a pig? Pig's don't even have venom! Lol I love it.
@@austinbaker8042 cartoon logic trumps all
So really its Ham-Spider
10:45 you can see it happening in the little flashback
Spider ham says that in the movie
One of my favorite scenes in spider-verse is when Myles first goes in the lab area construction site place. All the voices in his head go quiet and then the text 'watch out' appears behind him. It may be a small almost insignificant Scene but that moment in its entirety made me absolutely fall in love with the movie before I'd even reached the end.
Yo same, I loved it so much. Every time I watch the movie I pause that bit and rewind it.
Not insignificant at all! It signals the first real importance of his spider sense, emphasizes the comic book aesthetic, introduces Earth-1610 Peter Parker (the one from Miles's home universe), sucks Miles into the dangers of the superhero world, introduces us to the setting that will be both the start and end of the main external conflict.... it's an extremely important scene!
If you know the og spiderman theme song by heart you'll know that when that "Look out!" shows up, here comes the Spiderman. My brother went wild when he realized that after watching the movie a second time for the little details
Yes, bro. That suspenseful, yet silent "WATCH OUT!" gives us a better look on how the spidey sense works, kind of.
Lmao “where’s the wind coming from? we’re in a basement”
I like that they went out of their way to make it sound like it was recorded on location. In a lot of other animated movies, conversations between characters sound like a podcast with way too much clarity but here you can hardly notice the difference between this and live-action. It's part of why the movie feels so human.
Also, During the Mi Familia scene the music gets quieter when Miles DOESN'T have his headphones on, then it picks up the volume when he does!! Just a neat little thing I noticed literally 10 seconds ago while watching hflavslsbs
hflavslsbs? what daat? :P
Nigga had a stroke on the last word.
@@RevvyF1Der yes I did thanks for noticing
i know i’m late, but that’s a rlly cool tidbit and your profile pic? slaps
@@RevvyF1Der LMAOOO
YO THAT WAS MY REDDIT POST ABOUT THE SPIDER! Thanks for the shoutout bro!
Prowler's sound when hes at his apartment scared the CRAP out of me o-o
I KNOW
when i say i JUMPED
I've seen this movie a TON and that jump scare always gets me
SAME
And after his uncle dies, it gets placed into whats up danger. I am surprised this video did not mention it. He still wants to honor his uncle, even knowing the truth, for the man he was to Myles.
He didn't mention that at the beginning of the "What's Up Danger" scene, Prowler's theme is also playing faintly, a little bit pitched down to be more brass.
I'd like to point out the fact that, in your videos, you don't put music in between musical examples to fill in the space. I like that you do this, because the silence between examples allows for me to think about what you're explaining while having the piece in my head. Very cool!
Okay gonna rant:
Spiderman into the spiderverse (SITS) captured something that many other spiderman films did not: the identity of spiderman.
Constantly the spiderman films (Toby Mcguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland) mess around with the identity of Spiderman but always revolve it being around one thing "with great power comes great responsibility".
Thats it. Theres little tid bits added but honestly, thats the gist.
But SITS? Nope. Responsibility isnt the focus of the movie. And you may think:
"Ah, yeah it is? Miles has to learn the responsibilty of becoming Spiderman?"
And in a way, yeah. He does. But that is NOT the focal point of this movie or any of the characters. Its about identity. The identity of who these characters are. And it was touched on a little in this analysis.
Every little detail added to the movie is about giving the characters identity. The music, the scenery, colours - fucking everything.
And that is why this movie rules. Because this isnt about responsibilty. Anyone can become responsible. Its about identity and what you become.
That scene where miles jumps? The breathtaking moment of animation? That epic scene is him finding his identity and why it works so well. The music is so bold and heavy and deep because the scene itself is a bold, heavy, deep moment for Miles.
I could honestly gush about this movie and every amazing thing it does fpr hours and Im so happy that sideways made a vid on the music. Loved it!
I agree
Just to hammer that point in, the last time that phrase gets mentioned, Miles is cut off by Peter B. Parker because of how often it's used.
Commenting bc I adore this comment and I want to be able to find it again
Yes.
@@officert5147 same
This:
"Honestly Miles don't do it like I did, you gotta do it like YOU"
It makes you feel proud seeing Miles taking on the role of Spider-Man, a new hero, and not just a copy "wanna be".
And it was somewhat nostalgic that our boy Peter left his legacy.
I think it was the best thing they could have done for Miles, I know there were many people who didn't really like this character or didn't take him seriously because they saw it as a replacement for our good old Spider-Man Peter. This was a great way to give him the best welcome movie ever.
Miles Morales, welcome to the Marvel universe ;)
this introduction to miles character is way better than the comic book version
“Miles Morales, welcome to the Marvel Universe” gave me chills
@@3sikesimdead946 I think it’s because the writers had so many ideas for Miles’ character but they just didn’t know how to show it or put it in a senseable way, which just led to a big mess. The creators of Spider-verse saw this, and were like: “Hey... I can fix this” At least that’s what I think happened.
*”the way he leaps off of rooftops and flips backwards to face the camera before falling into a headfirst dive is just full of the exaggerated swagger of a black teen”*
Every time I hear something about how this film was made, my mind is blown. This video has shown me how to appreciate it more. I was just listening to random cool soundtracks and the Shoulder Touch song played, I've never heard this song by itself, but I totally heard Miles leitmotif at the beginning, and then the Spiderman leitmotif comes in afterwards, and it was amazing!!! I totally knew what was happening in the scene without having to watch it, and I loved it! Thank you for this new appreciation of music in films and how they are used in storytelling.
Sideways + Into The Spider verse = immediate like
Sideways into the Sidewaysverse
It’s KILLING ME that no one has mentioned that those two themes are literally based on the words “SPI-der Man”. And that the spider person theme comes as a direct rhythmic quote from the original animated show theme song spider-man. So good!
I can't believe you didn't mention my favorite part of this scene: one of the biggest barriers for Miles to mastering his powers is controlling his fear. It's directly why he couldn't control his adhesive/stick to walls power, and is additionally stated in the "leap of faith," the culmination of Miles overcoming the boundary of fear.
What makes this so impactful is that Miles overcomes the *boundary* of his fear, but not the fear itself. He is still terrified in the scene, but he is controlling his fear for the greater good. This is seen in the way the glass breaks under his hand as he leaps from the building (as his sticking powers are based on whether he's afraid or relaxed), and because the leitmotif for Prowler plays during this sequence. It represents his fear and the way he now has power over that fear: Prowler is terrifying to Miles, but Prowler's motif is used here to support this climax of Miles' character--the moment he truly becomes Spiderman.
And now that w know more about the universe and Miles' identity after the sequel came out, it becomes even more genius. Everything about this is so genuinely awesome I just can't
Even as someone who doesn't like hip-hop, I couldn't help but feel myself cheering for Miles during the scene and rightfully so it would seem considering how much work, thought, and layers were built for his apotheosis .
U dont like hip hop y????
@@thekingofutube9328 some people have different music tastes
@@HELLO_KORO ik I was just asking but I would like to ask u y dont u like hip hop
Hip hop is kinda like country music... even if you don't like it, part of your body still wants to react to and move with the music.
Find any quality hip hop, or country song and your brain will just want to dance or get with the rhythm. Others are more obvious like disco or electronic music.. but I think hip hop and country have that weird sort of subtle similarity that no one notices.
danteelite I’d disagree. Hearing those just make me want to turn it off instead.
also at the end of the movie when he talks about how anyone could wear the mask, as the camera pans around him... we get a dramatic build up that leads an incredibly triumphant version of the "spider motif" as the he says
"because im spider man
-and im not the only one"
followed shortly by the song were heard when being introduced to Miles
So "what's up danger" is literally Miles' Hero's Journey encompassed through one song by combining musical motifs that represent the Known, Unknown and the passage between the two, and this theme plays at the literal peak of said journey. That's Godlike.
It’s all about that exaggerated swagger of a black teen
INOAHGUY what even is this meme
@@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888 it's something that was said in a review of the Miles Morales video game that recently came out. It was such a weird bad line that people really latched onto it.
It gives me goosebumps every time he does it
goddammit
The heroic swagger of a black teen
I like the fact that the Spider Motif musically actually says, "Spi-Der-Man!" Much like how the Superman theme, by the directors own admission, says "It's Su-per-man!" with the fanfare
I found the same thing when I was watching the movies, like all the times I heard BuhBaBuh, Spi-Der-Man, I was like hell yeah bro
Nearly a year after watching the video and reading this, it occurred to me - Miles' own motif, as heard throughout the whole movie, could be saying "Mo-Ra-Les" as well.
Goddamn, that is some of the best use of leitmotifs I've seen since Undertale, phenomenal. This is a movie I can watch again and again.
Yooo I agreee
Maybe even better since Undertale's repeats of motifs can sometimes end up not quite telling the story they're tied to, but that's more of a subtle thing.
Undertale? Explain?
I love the soundtrack but I’ve never listened to it critically
@@eos_aurora Undertale’s kinda known for its use of motifs everyone between songs in its soundtrack, Snowdin town is in Hopes and Dreams, Alphys’s theme is the first melody in Here We Are, the ghost characters and Muffet all share a song to some extent, it’s a big web between all the songs.
@@eos_aurora Pretty much everysingle song share mottifs with one another. All the main characters have one and most of their battles share mottifs with others (Battle agianst a true hero with The ruins mottif, Death by Glamour with a bunch of the Core and Mettaton, Finale with His theme and Flowey's theme)
I just watched this film yesterday and it's a perfect film for this channel to talk about. The music really gives it a unique feel and tells more about the protagonist.
Wha-?! I just watched it yesterday lol
Wow, I actually did watch it the day before when your comment was posted. Hmm. Strange lol
I just watched it on Sunday too, hmmm
you watched it way too late
Watched it since the first release
"theres this notion of miles carving his own path with the gifts that hes given even if it isn't necessarily what others want for him" ohhh my god they amplfied it x100 for across the spiderverse, poor miles
I think it’s cool that that spider motif rhythm is just like the rhythm of the old school Spider-Man theme (Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does whatever a spider can, that one) I guess it could be coincidence but if not it’s really cool.
It can’t be a coincidence with all this love put into the world
Have you ever noticed a similar thing in the Christopher Nolan Batman movie score? The main theme of that franchise is the same note sequence as "na-na-na-na Batman!"
Nice touch, the music stopping when the headphones fell off. Thanks for another good look at the work that goes into the music and how wonderful talented those creators can be.
Anyone else notice that the shape of the inverted skyline in the iconic leap of faith shot (7:14) totally visually mirrors the "journey" leitmotif?
oooooOOOOOOOOHHHHHH
My God......how far does this go
Im confused
I reckon that's just a nice coincidence with the framing of the shot but it would be cool to find out it was deliberate
Oh
Kinda sad that the fact that the prowler motif being added to whats up danger as well wasnt talked about cause it was part of the journey and metamorphosis and it being incorporated was huge.
One of my favorite things that I saw someone point out closer to when the movie came out is that in the beginning and (now that i'm relistening to it) throughout What's Up Danger the Prowler theme is played. I think that theme not only represents Aaron and The Prowler, but also fear and uncertainty? Like, before you learn that it's Aaron behind the Prowler mask, you hear that theme and it is just completely overwhelming. You're immediately scared and dreading what's going to happen next. And I feel like when it's played at the beginning of/throughout What's Up Danger it represents Miles facing his fears and taking that leap of faith. It says that Uncle Aaron is a part of what's brought him so far, but also having to be brave and confront things that terrify him. I could go on about this movie for days, it's so good, fuck.
4:02 I heard that octave and immediately thought of the movement spider-man does when he swings up and down, up and down.
Also can I just say that I'm really, really glad you're talking about the music in this movie cause I think the music is 100% part of why this film is so great!
I too can't hear the word "trickery" without hearing Robbie Rotten singing in my head
We are number one!
This is going down in history,
As an animation writing nerd, this analysis on the music fully supporting and cranking up the themes of this movie (which is probably the most technically ambitious AND successful animated movies in the past decade) to 11 got me SO emotional. I’m going through all your videos since my friend showed me the Cats one the other day and I could literally listen to you talk about leitmotifs forever.
When I watched the movie I didnt expect anything special.
Boy I was wrong
same here
“You won’t. it’s a leap of faith Miles”
never forget that quote
"Anything else that's been bitten by a radioactive spider"
Um, excuse you, Spider-Ham was bitten by a radioactive pig.
The “What’s Up, Danger” scene is possibly my favorite scene in a movie ever. Listening to you pull apart the music and then put it back together made me wave my hands in critical analysis glee.
"The apotheosis is upon us" - The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals
hi starkid xD
This is the weirdest combo of two of my fandoms, but I'm loving it
WHY ARE YOU CLAPPING?!?
Did you think about the implications???!?
@@nofoundfootage pRoMiSe mE yOu'Ll tHiNk aBoUt tHe iMpLiCaTiOnS
When you watch Spider-Verse after this, You notice all the sounds, and it really makes the movie better!
I freeking LOVE this movie's score. While it doesn't replace Elfman's classic theme it is most certainly one of the best scores of 2018 in my opinion. The more I learn about this movie the more I love it.
11:02 didnt even bring up that the motif itself is a tiny journey. The home note, an alien version of the homenote, alien in that its not the same its an octave, return to the homenote. Also its amazing to see such a simple measure, is the driving force of the whole score, proves you dont need complicated slides, and triplets and all that to make good music.
Woah that’s so cool, I never thought of that
I didn’t understand a word of what you said, but that’s impressive musical skills
"Hi I'm Peter Porker. I just washed my hands, that's why they're wet"
"No other reason"
I didn't understand the joke until later on because my mind was still fairly innocent when I watched the movie
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i dont get it
@@wikibanned4453 good
Legit was listening to Sunflower and then i saw this in my Sub box. So happy you talked about this soundtrack.
Great, after hearing you talk about the lack of hip-hop numbers in other movies, I am now sad again about Friend Like Me from the Aladdin remake
That scene when Miles' reflection finally fits the spider man suit gave me chills.
No one:
Sideways: L E I T M O T I F S
I love you, thank you for this blessed content.
If no one says nothing, that means someone at least said one thing
Brandon Chan They didn’t say nothing they said:
It is most definitely blessed
My teacher actually taught us about the heroes journey by watching Star Wars.
Needless to say, my language arts teacher is awesome.
Well, I mean, it's not the Matrix.
The matrix is kinda rated R. I don’t think my teacher could’ve shown it to us if he wanted
Should have watched Avatar the Last Airbender.
Easily the best hero's journey in commercial media
Watching a 1 and half hour movie to learn a concept is a lot better than watching a 3 season series. Although I agree, avatar is the best heroes journey in commercial media, it would just take too much time.
My social studies teacher thought us buddhism by star wars it was cringe sense I dont like star wars but still cool
Across the Spider-verse coming out makes me miss Sideways more
Idk why I love the sound when the prowler is in a scene
Like “DAAAAAAANNNN” lol
and I am........ Iron knight (snaps fingers)
tbh i hear it more as a BWOOOAAAAAA
Woooooooaaaaaooww
Every new thing i learn about this movie makes me appreciate it more. So much love went into it. This is the kind of movie people make when they really care about their art.
My favorite thing about this kind of movie is that you can really tell when the people working on it love the source material. As a Spider-Man fan, this movie was perfect.
About the Prowler-Trumpets: When he opens the window to get into Miles' room, it makes a very similar sound.
We need him back to talk about the new one fr
I literally came here to say this. I rewatch this video back so often.
Then I looked. Last upload: 2 years ago. 😭
I love how in the closing score we get a recap of all the different leitmotifs.
While Miles is recapping his journey/leap-of-faith we get the octave jump up.
When he reaches the conclusion of his journey - he is spiderman - we get the whole-step jump down.
And then the music that represents his identity plays, tying the end back to when we first met him (the conclusion, the hero's return).