Why SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE Works - A Scene-By-Scene Breakdown
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2020
- Film Crit Hulk goes deep into the thoughtful, funny, and structurally inventive writing behind Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.
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There will never be "too many" video essays on this movie
Yeah, it deserves all the freaking praise in the dang world. It's so damn good.
That’s exactly my thought. Will always click on these types of videos.
Your God dam right on that!
I rather hear more of these to breakdown how to make a well written story then hear shit and what would’ve happened
There aren't nearly enough video essays on this movie.
A little note about the "pity laugh." Miles says "maybe you all just arrived too early."
But the funny thing is...Gwen DID arrive "early." So she might have been laughing at an inside joke to herself. (something noticed by CinemaWins, I can't take the credit for this.)
"Early" in what context? She doesn't know the actual story hasn't started yet, so it doesn't really make sense that it would be funny to her.
I agree it's not a pity laugh, it's a meta laugh. She's laughing at how funny it was that the joke flopped.
@@Taurusus time is different from her universe to miles, if i recall well when she goes through her backstory she mentions being "thrown into last week"
@@justbny9278 I agree, she's the only that arrived in time to see Golden Spidey still in action, and when she sensed the spider in Miles she probably knew that she arrived just in time to see a new hero take the mantle just like she did, ala, she arrived early
@@marioalbertomoreno3819 Also. you know, there was the explosion and power outage that happened. She probably witnessed it and realized that was what brought her you Golden Spidey's universe
Note about the King Pin scene. He's not haunted by hallucinations. Those are actual alternate reality versions of his family. You can tell if you frame by frame that they keep changing traits, and a good number of the flashes have a different wife and child. It's the tragedy of his arc told on split second frames. If you don't face your own evil first, you're doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over again, no matter what you do to avoid it. He could potentially bring them back, but he isn't willing to stop being the thing that drove them away, and so, even these alternate versions run away from him all the same.
Aw shit
@@indig0icee it's even better when you realize they mirror the same shot as earlier in the movie. He pins golden Spidey the same way he pins Miles. And both moments directly seque in to the family reveal
With all of that in play, the shot of him saying "don't leave" as the frame engulfs him in the void of the spider verse is possibly one of the most subtle master strokes of the film
@@mitty9010 Yeah, this was the ultimate twisting of the knife on illustrating how villains' attitudes can lead to their own self-destruction. Kingpin's refusal to learn from his earlier loss caused him to not only relive one of his most traumatic moments, but because of what the alternate families saw he likely forced his outcome to occur repeatedly across dimensions. While Spiderman's alternates helped each other, Kingpin destroyed his in the same way he destroyed himself.
A master stroke indeed.
Well said.
I guess you could say he STRUCK OUT!
I love the "I'm so tired" line. As much as they try to play Golden Age Peter as this perfect idealized Spider-Man, the main difference between him and Peter B is that the latter has been Spidey for longer. The job IS taking its toll on him, as further shown in the "Spidey Bells" song.
Yeah I just rewatched the movie as it’s just been added to Netflix, then I actually listened to Spidey Bells song at the end, and as funny as the conclusion of that song was, I also saw the reality of what drove Golden age Spidey on, he coulda just chosen to pursue a career in chemical engineering, but the mantle of Spider-Man CHOSE him and hence he never relented on that responsibility, regardless how many times he’d done the whole hero gig in the 10 years he’d been Spider-Man. This whole movie is an absolute masterpiece layered with thought and depth and dedication and love for the character of Spider-Man. And this video essay among others just further deepened my appreciation for the movie and the creators.
You mean spicy
@@Canda1400
_Golden Age Spicy_
I think people forget that animation is not a genre. It’s a style. So you can have an action movie, comedy, a horror movie, or even a drama in the style of animation. It’s a shame that many people in western cultures see animation and immediately think “it’s a kids movie”.
One thing I really like about anime is that it doesn’t cater to younger people. There are animes for people of all ages and some of those should not be watched by children. A lot of US companies focus solely on animation being a movie for children. Into the spider verse didn’t do that. Yes, children can watch it but it didn’t feel like it was trying to cater to a younger audience.
I think you mean medium not style ;D
I just think anime is too dramatic and over detailed, I’m talking about the eyes, the EYES
Cultures outside western culture see animation for children as well. You can see places like India and Vietnam that has the exact same attitude towards animation.
@@vex2960 👁👁
Most anime shouldn't be watched by children tbh
"I am so tired." is my favorite line in the whole movie.
Not my favorite, but yeah. I *felt* that line so deep in my soul.
My favorite is, "With great ability comes great accountability." That and of course, "It always fits... Eventually."
my fav line is what's up danger
@@tomjomes4271 I don’t think that that counts as a line it’s a song
Good line but I have to go with Spider-Ham at 44:41.
Penny wasn’t sad that she almost lost her spider friend, she was heartbroken that the robot her deceased father had made was destroyed.
Lmao
@@WalterPee38 you seem to not feel human emotion
I watched this movie so many times, and it was only in the last viewing that I understood this. Such a shame that trio isn't developed more in the movie.
Spiderman died because he told his enemy a truth he did not want to hear. Damn.
Can we get a moment of silence for our fallen spider man
@@its_dooopy6067 F
@@its_dooopy6067 😢
F for the fallen spider-man one of our own
@@brittanybell6331 HOLD THE PHONE, WHTA DO YOU KNOW ONE OF "OWN OUR" CAN YOU CLIMB ON WALLS OR SOMETHING.
One thing I'd like to mention, as a reader of Miles's comics, is that I think the movie did a great job of revamping his character. Comics Miles had a tendency to feel too depressed and underspoken, being tugged around by his family drama between his father and uncle. Additionally, his uncle was an awful person in the comics, having little real care for Miles and mostly using him to take out other competing supervillains. ITSV's Miles is far happier, has more noticeable hobbies and traits like his love of art, and has a better relationship with his uncle who genuinely cares for him, and I think those changes went a long way in improving the story and characters. It's rubbed off on comics Miles too. His recent Saladin Ahmed run is pretty good, and he actually gets along great with his uncle and dad now. :D
I think the Prowler in Ultimate Spidey was just done that way to fuck with comic reader's expectations since he's actually a decent dude in the mainline comics. Also probably cause Ultimate Marvel tended to be edgy. I dropped Miles comics ages ago, maybe I'll check out the new stuff.
Yeah, I've been reading Ultimate Spider-Man from the beginning on Marvel Unlimited lately, and Miles feels kinda... bland? The movie really made him feel more alive by emphasizing his multicultural identity (which the comics have so far kinda glossed over) and basically making up his creative spark from whole cloth. At the same time, I do like a lot of the story choices, and the best ones were pretty much ripped straight from the page to the screen. The spider with 42 on it, his complicated relationship with his father and uncle who represent duty and freedom, his dad hating superheroes, and his uncle Aaron being the Prowler and the two of them discovering each other's identities just before he dies, all of that is straight from the comic.
In general I feel like Bendis's stuff with Peter Parker was WAY stronger, which is a shame since he clearly cares a lot about having more representation in comics and I agree with him. He's tried to do that twice now, with Miles and Riri, and kinda struck out both times? At least those characters were popular enough to stick around and be written by other people, so it's not a complete loss
U guys wrote a lot
@@einootspork What's funny is the movie has a lot of similar moments to his comic origin, even shit like the store bought costume. The movie's execution was just sooooo much better, really show's how details go a long way.
I feel like this also extends to how Miles was treated in the 2018 video game as well as his own game coming up.
In it, he’s a genius like Peter & he loves to help people, especially with having Peter & May as mentors. In his own game coming up, so far we’ve learned that Miles loves to create music as well, & is starting to embrace his Puerto Rican heritage.
GOLDEN AGE SPICEY!
How did he know the name of the Thai Restaurant chain I was starting???
and that's when i subscribed
That's what you call...a SPICY TAKE. *rimshot*
Is that, like, one of the Spice Girls?
Earned a sub right there 😂
I feel like Golden Age Spicy should be a Patreon tier name now or something.
😂
My favorite call back in the movie is when Stan Lee gives Miles the suit at the beginning and says "It always fits eventually" It is one important figure in Spider-man's life telling the new Spider-man that even if he doesn't feel ready now, he will. It gets called back to in the What's Up Danger sequence when Aunt May, another important figure in Spider-man's life, gives miles the webshooters. "See? Fits perfectly" He's finally ready to take that leap of faith.
Nice. Hadn't seen that connection before myself.
When Stan said "I'm... going to miss him" that hit hard
Doc Ock becomes Superior Spider-man. "See? Fits perfectly." "It always fits eventually."
Sometimes a metaphor is just a metaphor, sometimes it's just a lie.
Reason #10000 why this Aunt May needs to be heavily featured in the sequel.
There's also the first scene in the Spider-Cave, Miles looks at the classic suit and his reflection doesn't match the suit, but when he returns determined to be Spidey his reflection is placed in the right place.
My favorite moment in this movie is when Liv finally sees Miles as Spider-Man, reflexively calling him that title for the first time in the climax. She's belittled him the entire movie by calling him 'little boy' and similar, but in this fight he's come into his own and she acknowledges it completely in spite of herself, because it can no longer be denied. Such a tiny little detail but it says so much about both of them. What an amazing movie!
This is one of my favorite moments in the movie and I don't hear many people talk about it. He's no longer attempting to be Spider-Man. He IS Spider-Man.
He didn't come into his own. Did he do anything to earn it? What mistakes did he make to get innocents killed?
He's Spider-man in Name Only, not in spirit.
@@tskmaster3837 does he hve to make innocents killed?
@@tskmaster3837 did we watch the same movie?
@@thecoloradokid5418 I liked Spider-man 2099 at the end, a proper continuation of the Spider-man myth of the self made hero.
There was an animated series in the 90s that did the first Spider-verse and rather than a gaggle of goofy gimmicks, it was an actual exploration of how different decisions can change one's FATE.
That one had the secret identity-les, wealthy Spider-man which would be the same as the one who died in Into the Spider-verse.
There was no equivalent for the older, out of shape Peter B Parker because apart from moments of "writer on board", Spider-man DOESN'T quit. Whether outnumbered 6 to one, being crushed by thousands of tons of debris or overwhelmed by his double live, for Peter Parker there is only the price he must pay of responsibility of having such awesome powers.
And then there's Miles Morales who has all the fun and not of the problems! Hell yeah! With great power comes great times!
He even gets the girlfriend that died by Peter Parker's action. I F****** hate this movie.
We saw the same movie but I don't know if you ever put it into context of the Spider-man story
As a Black man whose father's name was Ulysses Lee and who has an Uncle named Robert E Lee. The Jefferson Davis thing ALWAYS cracks me up. It's like it was some kind of camouflage on paper. LOL!!! My grandma was awesome and hilarious!
Do their names make you mad or do you find it kinda empowering not letting that name be a signification of history, and instead taking ownership ovrr the name?
@@mouthy_maestrod2992 Does it have to be either one?
Man, now I'm thinking about Ulysses from New Vegas. And kudos to your grandma. She does sound awesome and hilarious. : )
@mouthy_maestrod2992 it's just a name and it only had meaning if you allow it to. As Morgan Freeman said, “The only way to stop racism is to stop talking about it.” constantly talking about it by either getting mad or feeling empowered will only perpetuate the cycle of hate against each other we have found ourselves in.
I'm just imagining that whoever that is in the background laughing is Hawkeye who is hanging around listening to Hulk
It's editor Landon!
Editor Landon is now Hawkeye. This is canon
@@JurgMudveins
Who would name their son "Editor"? Weird family.
Or Tony
The naivety of Miles to actually think it was practical to web swing from Manhattan to the Hudson Valley is hysterical.
Homecoming spiderman is quaking
My 14 year old niece's favorite movie... She died of cancer 2 months ago. I'm not sure I'll be able to make it through this. 🥺😭
Sending much
playgroundchooser im so sorry for your loss!!!
❤️
I'm sorry for your loss.
Sry for your loss.💔
Regarding the comment "he even survives the same hit that killed our golden age Spider-Man", it's actually not the same hit, and it kinda shows how Fisk looks down on Miles.
When Peter is killed, Fisk uses both of his fists, but when Fisk hits Miles, he uses just one.
Also that Peter was hit first by a collapsing building before Fisk finished him off.
He hit him with one fist because he thought he was weaker than Peter
@@redhornetgaming5472 exactly. And that was his mistake because Miles had already accepted his fate. Plus he's not the same spiderman, he's his own
I think golden age spidey died from that hit because he was terribly injured already.
Spider-Man Noir's introduction is the best thing I've ever seen. Nick Cage being in a cartoon and saying THESE FUCKING LINES absolutely perfectly
He also played superman in the teen titans go movie last year, it's super ironic and I love it. I never was a huge fan of "teen titans go", but "teen titans go to the movies" is something special. Nicholas Cage is someone special.
"Sometimes I let matches burn down to my fingertips just to feel something, anything!" *Match goes out just before the fire reaches his fingers*
"Aw."
Thank god I'm not the only person who didn't realize Uncle Aaron was the Prowler until the reveal scene. It did seem so easy to predict in hindsight, but as you said, I was so distracted by the movie that I wasn't thinking of it as a movie. I wasn't trying to solve the mystery or figure out what was likely to happen next, I wasn't watching a movie, I was experiencing another person's life; I was fully immersed and along for the ride.
I didn’t realize because I hadn’t read ANYTHING about miles beforehand and when they revealed that i was genuinely befuddled in that theater
I admire the hell out of your ability to make a scene-by-scene breakdown so relentlessly engaging. I feel like these sorts of videos have a tendency to drag, but yours don't ever feel like they're slowing down.
Agreed! Didn't expect to sit through it in one go. I recall Hulk's written posts having the same quality haha. Wish I could articulate why it's so engaging compared to other vids...but I can at least be grateful for it! Bravo to the writer and editor~
@@stephanvaleros9948 written posts? Where might one find such a thing?
@@thecoloradokid5418 Much like the Incredible Hulk, CritHulk is hard to pin down because he's all over the place haha! I think he's been most active on his Patreon since 2019. There's also articles on Observer, Vulture, and Polygon. What I grew up on is mostly on "birthmoviesdeath.com". There's also "filmcrithulk.blog". Hope that helps! :D
How can you say all these things without crying? I can't hear them all without crying.
It's hard! I always cry the first time I write something sad, but once I've gone through it enough, it's still emotional but I can usually keep the tears at a minimum, haha.
Multiple takes is the only way
just watching a video about the movie makes me cry, the movie is a masterpiece and so beautiful. movie's embarrassing to watch with other people because i'm just sobbing. it's my favorite movie.
I think you can hear him on the edge of crying most of the time
I have watched "What's Up Danger" scene multiple times and then knew it was coming in this essay and I still teared up.
About Uncle Aaron's death: you said it. We don't get to see him join the good guys, and we don't get to see him rebuild his relationship with Miles. We only see the consequences. His and Miles' relationship is so amazingly complex, and yet we don't get to see much of it at all. I am an avid reader of "fix-it" fanfiction on this topic because I want him to not die. But somehow, that's not a fault on the movie's part. Sometimes the characters can't have what they want, and sometimes the audience can't have what they want. I cry every time.
The best parts of any Spider-Man is a blend of hyper-competence and absolute chaotic disaster energy and this movie itself is like Spider-Man in that way.
Facts
This is the rare movie where I heard unbelievable hype for it before, and when I saw it, I actually thought they underplayed how good it was.
For the longest time, my benchmark for great movies, let alone animated, has been Pixar, and they released some damn fine films this decade that I'd happily say were among the best (mainly Coco and Inside Out). But goddamn, the creators took the most overdone genre in film with one of the most overdone franchises and crafted something so good it amazes me every time I see it.
I don't even really want to talk about it since you basically went into every part of it, but this is one of the best movies I've ever seen, plain and simple...
TheMaskedDonut you might like PERFECT BLUE a lot. It’s also about alter-egos and the movie really puts you in the head space of the protagonist.
Try Rango. Its an animated eestern that subverts the whole animated animals have to be cute thing.
I'd recommend Spirited Away. It's one of a kind and a level so far above all else that it may always be THE movie to beat for anything in animation.
Animated movies aren't a genre, they are a medium. Everything else you said is correct tho
@@helloill672 I read his genre reference as super hero rather than animation.
I realised miles is listening to sunflower and his mom is calling his name. At the end he's listening to sunflower and he can hear Gwen calling his name
"And uh oh, that's the police. OH NO ITS WORSE *ITS HIS DAD* " 🤣 I love this
I love how the film highlights Miles' intelligence, He's seemingly overwhelmed by his course load and schedule, but can still easily earn a 100% on an exam if he wanted to. Also love you using the *Spider-Man PS4* theme at the end.
Golden Age Spicey is the hero I needed right now.
🤣
He’s the best hero
He sets people on fire
I like how a movie that's supposed to explore the concept of Spider-man treats the whole "great power, great responsability" thing as something secondary and not the main focus.
Yes, we all know the responsability thing and how much it matters, but this is going a little deeper. I actually find the "Spider-man always gets back up" a lot more enjoyable.
And I find that scene Peter B tells Miles to not finish his responsibility quote is the movie subtle way of acknowledging that they won't repeat the responsibility theme this time, we have seen it enough already.
Wow, so this is how Hulk spend is free times when he's not smashing stuff.
Golden Age Spicy sounds like a great Italian dive.
Doesn't the dad already know Kingpin is evil? I got the feeling it was a John Gotti situation. They can't pin anything on him at the moment, but the cops know that he is bad news.
Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean you hate them personally.
He knows. Peter said the Fisk has everyone in his pocket. Police included. So Davis definitely saw some crooked cops one way or another.
41:34: "Liv? Wait, Isn't that what her _friends_ call her? There's a story there!"
_I'll_ say! In at least one universe, Aunt May used to *date* a counterpart to Doctor Octopus!
By the way, speaking of Doc Ock, another thing that makes the movie work is the subtle details. In Liv's case, the light fixtures in her office are all octagonal.
Here’s a quick fic rec about that!
archiveofourown.org/works/17506808
WOW. This movie just BLEEDS little details!
Not to mention her glasses ...
unrelated but i love how subtly ruthless doc oc is in this movie. She KNOWS kingpin won't get his family back, that it's all for nothing, and yet she still let's him go through with it and takes his money for her scientific gain. fucking brilliant
I know what you mean by "Golden Age" Spidey, but the comic book history nerd in me wants me to say "Actually, Spider-Man was created in the Silver Age".
uneek35 it’s golden age spicy
Plus im pretty sure that character is ultimate spider-man, which would be the steel age of comics, which is 1986-2015.
@@lollylemur5041 spidey
@@sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183 no spicy
I just noticed that goblin died, you can see his hand in the rubble
Some people call the golden age peter parker "RIPeter" and I think that's hilarious.
They literally call him that in the actual screenplay.
I shouldn't be tearing up watching a Film Crit Hulk essay, but here I am. And I know I've watched this movie at least 4 or 5 times and can do so at the drop of a hat and still pick up new things in it and from it. Good job, big guy.
SAME!
I always watch this movie at around ~80% speed cause otherwise I miss too many details
I noticed that when they were all empathizing with Miles about losing someone, the anime style spider-man (Sorry I can't remember her name), said she had lost her father. In her introduction scene, she said it was her fathers robot. So losing it at the end made it all the more hurtful to her :(
This video was like honey in my ears and brain. Thank you.
Wait, what? How do you know how that feels....
Only disagreement at the 47:49 mark:
His shoes aren't untied/are tied in this sequence (What's Up Danger/Miles becomes Spider-man) , because its the second pay-off to the "Your shoes are untied" running gag (edit: even though one shoe is untied in the Pichelli cover).
Rule of 3:
1. He trips and falls because his laces are untied (setting up the payoff below).
2. A girl points out his laces are untied, and he tries to save face by saying its a choice
3. Peter A/RIPeter points out his laces are untied to break the tension.
Payoff: He trips and falls at a critical moment (breaking the goober) because his laces are untied.
Rebuttal/reference/callback of/to the "Your laces are untied": His laces are tied during "What's up, Danger" and he never trips. Also, in a movie this meticulous about the detail of his shoes being untied, the movie also chooses not to go out of its way to do so again when the laces are tied. Plus, the emphasis on parkour after the first major swing is a call back to his training session with Peter B where he shouts "I run better than I swing!" (which he does, throughout the rest of the movie when parkour is a preferential option over swinging, albeit probably due to being new at swinging).
Personally, I read a few different things into the laces, but not really an act of organized rebellion (note: just my reading). Kids at that age just tend to not tie their laces because they feel its unnecessary and that they're coordinated enough to not need to (though I do think his rebuttal that "It's a choice" was closer to rebellion as an act of saving face) ...until they fall on their face. Miles tying his laces is just him learning his lesson at that point.
3 things and a payoff is 4 things!
I love this little scene at 47:55
That shot when he shoots his webs, but they take so long to get there, even him spinning slightly so he can't even see anymore at what he shot his webs at, waiting, the only thing that he can do is trust. Trust in the choice he made when aiming, trust that it had to be good enough to save him from hitting the floor. That little second longer than is has to be just so i as a viewer just for a split second get the feeling of doubt just before the web attaches and he swings on as planned. I love that This scene takes its time, not fearing that it halts the momentum too much.
The only scenes I can think of that give me that same rush of elation as the What’s Up Danger sequence are the Portals scene in Endgame and the last race in Speed Racer.
THE LAST RACE IN SPEED RACER. PREACH. PURE EUPHORIA.
Great comparison to Speed Racer! I see where you're going with Endgame, but that didn't hit for me. But definitely got the same rush from the final race.
Woah. I really didn't even think about 42 being Jackie Robinson's number, I was so fixated on it as a Hitchhiker's Guide reference. It always seemed out of place to me... but now it makes perfect sense. The number (seen repeatedly throughout the film) represents how this film is an intersection of two huge meta-genres... inspirational racial commentary and wacky, absurdist science fiction. Since I have a deep love of sci-fi, the number IMMEDIATELY primed me for one of the two big asks of a film set in a genre that doesn't normally tackle those things. I have to believe that those who have a deep sensibility for stories of race would immediately recognize the other meaning of the number that I missed at first, and be cued into what is coming up in the film. This film teaches those who have a sensibility for one of these things to recognize and appreciate the other, and it conveys all of that with a single number imprinted all over the movie.
When you step back and look at this movie, putting yourself in the mindset of someone who is waiting to see it in theaters, you realize this movie asks A LOT of it's audience. But it does an amazing job of priming that audience, recognizing that people will be watching this with hugely varied backgrounds, and does a ton of subtle work to bring everyone on board. No audience member is left behind.
It's seen briefly in the opening credits too on a lotto ball. It was Miles's number that got him into the school.
Ii
So it's a number that Jackie Robinson earned but for Miles, it's the one that got him a free pass into herodom? I knew the racial element of this movie was horrendous as Miles' father is somehow named Jefferson Davis... the President of the Confederate State of America, look it up... but I didn't think it was that bad as to piggyback on top of actual historical racial equality.
Good for me that I can't hate this movie anymore than I already do.
The credit for the 42 thing goes to the original Ultimate Comics Spider-Man by Brian Michael Bendis. It's one of the few things that was taken straight from the comics, lotto ball included.
42 is the comic issue Miles Morales was introduced in. Idk who popularized the Jackie Robinson theory, but they’re overthinking it.
In classic Peter Parker origin, uncle Ben is close to Peter Parker and a father figure because Peter doesn't have a father. But miles story is amazing, he has a generic cop dad and cool uncle who is basically a cooler version of his Dad, cool father figure this Miles-Uncle Aaron is amazing in setting the story. Amidst all that Multiverse stuff, multiple SpiderMan stuff they managed to do a full fledged Miles Origin story.
And Golden Age SpiderMan is the combination of both his Dads, Cool but responsible.
and then peter b is the spencer to his carly
I cant let go of the legendary line:
"I cannot let you open a black hole under new York. Brooklyn isn't zoned for that"
I've been thinking about Lord and Miller's collective style. "All of these really talented people have been making movies and thinking about how to make them their whole lives. Why wouldn't we listen to ALL of them?!" This could easily lead to chaos or empty fan service or pretentious mess. But L&M have something unique - they are "visionary" directors (i.e. they have a solid vision of the idea they want to present, and then make decisions based on making that vision come to life - Nolan, Fincher) but are strong enough in that vision to have it assaulted by new ideas and the wisdom to know what makes it better and what will weaken it. What you end up with is something far, far better than it ever has any right to be based on the original idea. And they do it, over, and over, and over.
I'm so glad to see someone else calls them L&M
Definitely watch Phil Lord's TED talk on the chaotic story process and failure..
Makes you think how their Solo movie would have turned out.
In particular I think they're masters of making lame, blatantly commercial movie ideas like the Lego Movie or Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs or 21 Jump Street(?!) into into funny, entertaining, and meaningful stories. Which in today's studio environment are exactly the kind of writers and directors you want on your project. I'm surprised they're not more acclaimed TBH.
His father makes him ride in the back like a criminal. His backpack is literally in the front seat instead of Miles.
The "what's up danger" scene gives me goosebumps all over.
I have nothing to add really so far it’s been perfect but god damn Nick Cage’s line read of “Sometimes I let matches burn down to my fingertips just to feel something. Anything!” Is still so freaking amazing.
Rodney Rothman offered some interesting behind the scenes trivia about the scene in which the Spider-people share Miles' pain over losing his uncle.
“The way that scene [originally] went is Noir said he lost his Uncle Benjamin, Peter lost Uncle Ben, and Gwen lost Peter. We went through everyone,” Rothman said. “Spider-Ham said he lost his Uncle Frankfurter. And then he said, ‘He was electrocuted, and it smelled so good.’”
It was a joke that did great with test audiences. But it was nevertheless removed because it just wasn't what that particular scene needed. Also, during production Spider-Ham walked the fine line between being extremely funny and extremely annoying. So cutting this joke is a great example of 'killing your darlings'.
I JUST REALIZED Miles is right handed, Gwen is right handed and Peter B is left handed!!! Thats an amazing attention to detail!! Peter B reaches out with his left, scratches his head left, points at himself left, holds onto the wall left, reaches for food left, and keeps his left web shooter because he instinctively shoots left. I never noticed that before
I definitely was not expecting "FILM CRIT HULK" to sound like he's constantly fighting back tears.
I always assumed Penny's heartbreak at the damage to the robot was because it was built by her father, and her father was her Uncle Ben moment, i.e. it's something she's been clinging to as a representation of him and has nothing to do with the spider living inside it. Am I just way off base here?
This origin movie is timeless, I swear.
Unironically my favorite quote from this movie has to be that in the middle of his massive panic attack he pauses and jsut goes "wow shes SUPER tall"
I cannot describe how important this movie was in 2018 to people of color. I'm a 30-year-old black man and to think that I would see something like this in my time brought tears to my eyes. I have latinx and black friends who have small children and The fact that this movie was so inclusive and so well done is absolutely mind-blowing. They now see that they can make it to the big screen too and be a hero which in my opinion is something that's so important for young people of color nowadays. I wish I had more stuff like this when I was growing up. I knew I could be anything I wanted to be if I applied myself and worked hard because that's how my parents raised me. But having something like this along with that knowledge well quite frankly, would have pushed myself and the people of my generation a lot harder. Also, I think this is hands down the best marvel movie they've ever put out and not because of the inclusivity I'm talking about the actual movie itself is so freaking good!
argh, this movie is so goddamn good, I get teary-eyed at descriptions and analyses of it (your writing and delivery is also good, but, you know, I didn't get teary eyed at the Star Wars video)
Okay no offense, but damn it sounds like you’re about to burst into tears whenever you talk.
ikr, i had that same feeling, idkw
bruh you telling me you dont cry whenever you talk about this movie?
I would
My 4-year-old nephew sings Sunflower the way Miles does in the movie because he thinks it's the best way.
The movie is INSANELY GOOD and is already positively Impacting a new generation.
This video was such a perfect breakdown of how great the movie is and why, thank you.
45:53 Hulk make me cry. Never realized Jefferson was giving son space and no expectations. Is much more moving now.
And yes me speak like Hulk when chatting on this channel
ALL GOOD
Damn was hoping he talked like an intelligent hulk 😂😭
You know he’s passionate, because he sounds like hes about to cry with every word. XD
Great job with essay! Very entertaining!
I go back to this film so often in my writing. The beauty in just everything working together, all the visuals, the lines, the world, the turns, the dramatization of character so efficiently. Just a stunning piece of cinema.
For a story THIS tightly packed and well structured, having Miles' dad show up at the end- there must be a reason.
Like they HAD the scene storyboarded for a proper set up of him, but they had to cut it due to timing.
Such a powerful take on a movie I thought couldn't be reviewed again. You get the credit for being the first UA-camr to ever actually make me cry, so kudos to that. To be able to make a 38 year old man cry during a review of a cartoon is quite the feat my friend. You've gained a fan and a subscriber today. I look forward to more.
Miles reaction to Failure hits hard, miles is the most realistic SpiderMan.
“Spicyman spicyman does whatever a spicy can”
I would make the argument that not only is Into the Spiderverse THE best Spiderman movie, but it may well be the greatest superhero movie ever made.
Easily
I love Golden Age Spicey so much
I'm imagining Thor off to the side laughing at Hulk saying, "Golden Age Spicy."
I'm not crying, you're crying.
I love the irony of saying, "There's only one Spider-Man, and you're looking at him."
And then cutting to Miles.
i interpreted those images of vanessa and richard during the final fight as a culmination of EVERY incarnation of them in the multiverse colliding with one another, as kingpin's refusal to change the side of him that drove his family away in the first place permanently squanders his chances of regaining what he lost
You know...there aren't many essays that make me experience the feelings I had when I watched a film, but you managed to do that here. While talking about Into the Spiderverse, you got me to remember those moments of real sadness and empathy when Miles fell, and the exhilarating rush when he earned his cover and rose back up.
It's not just the visuals, either; the music is just flawless. The moment Miles jumps off the building to become the fully realized Spider-Man that he becomes, that music just screams, "CAN'T STOP ME NOW!"
Chef's kiss.
"Golden Age Spicy"
That should a hot sauce or something.
19:04 Lol My stomach hurts now! I replayed that part 10+ and I'm in pain.
This is easily my favorite comic book movie of all time. The script is so strong and emotionally cathartic in so many ways.
Thanks for reminding me how special this movie is. In an era full of superhero movies, Spiderverse somehow manages to be the cream of the crop. Your analysis of Miles Morales helped me realize that the movie is in very much the same boat as Miles - they both have a huge responsibility to live up to the standard set by Peter Parker and the Golden Age. But instead of reinventing the wheel (the way I feel other Spiderman movies cant help but do over and over again), Miles and the filmmakers decided to embrace self-expression and honesty, and they are ultimately much better off for it, even if it's the more difficult option. I truly empathize with Miles' struggle, and I know I'm not alone in that.
Uncle Araon last words were the best I've ever heard "Your the best of all of us Miles,Just Keep going"
It takes a specific kind of man to be able to come up to me, go "Hey. 😏" and pull it off. I guarantee you, yes you who are currently reading this comment, you are not that man.
No... because I'm a woman.
Read the name, pretty sure I am
Yep solid guarantee considering I’m of the female species
damn
I'm not crying I'm crying! I mean, wait--
When he and his friend are laughing imagine it’s Thor in the background
I miss that series of analysis. Please come back, fellow Hulk Crit
I love that you pointed out that Miles not being a hard boiled badass that just "sucks it up" doesn't detract from his character but instead enhances it. It's not that he isn't scared, it's that he overcomes it and he doesn't lose his sensitivity and compassion along the way, like those traits are something negative to move past. Lovely work.
5:25 “oop that’s the police, only it’s worse
It’s his dad” 😂😂😂😂
"Sometimes to rise up, you have to fall down"
He sounds like the guy who voiced Spider-ham in this movie
I like a detail no one comments on: that they didn't just make "real" Peter Parker his brown haired usual, and made him blond like clone Ben Reilly with his hair dyed, and made the "B. Parker" look like the usual Peter Parker. Plays well with expectations and makes us think what makes one real, when the guy we are used to doesn't look like he used too and looks like a clone, and the other universe guy does. Just seems like a nice touch I feel I'm only scratching the surface of.
If I recall correctly, there's a shot in the movie in which we see a diagram of the different universes with numbers labeling them, and Peter B. Parker's is 616. Which, in the Marvel multiverse, is the main Marvel Comics universe. Obviously he isn't exactly from the comics Earth-616, but I liked the idea that of all these Spider-People, Peter B. is the one who is in some sense our familiar Spider-Man.
I think it's really funny to emphasize that B since ya know, Peter Benjamin Parker was pretty much always his full name so it should be a given
Peter B. Parker really is a mix of 616, Ultimate and invention of the writers and I like that about him.
Peter B is pretty much supposed to be THE Spider-Man, an amalgamation of the most known versions of the character, while the Peter from Miles' universe is an idealized version of Spidey.
Another big hint to Peter B. being the 616 Spiderman is that his universe is the only one with a Coca Cola sign; in Miles' universe it's Koca Soda (or something along those lines).
DO I WANT KIDS?!? Is my favourite line ever
17:27 Watching this just after watching Across the Spiderverse makes it so obvious, I genuinely went like "Damn, this dude gonna get it right 2 years prior" when you reacted like that
Hello, Hulk. Just wanted to say that I've been reading your essays for a while now, and not only have they given me a better understanding of cinema and art in general, but they have also made me a better person. Thus, I can wholeheartedly say that you are one of my favourite authors. After all, that's what art is supposed to do, right? Make you a better person? I'm from the other side of the world, from a town in India so small, even I myself can't find it on a map. But if you ever look up Alipurduar Junction, know that you have a fan there. Awesome video. Didn't expect anything less from you. Here's to a million more 🙂
You've enhanced my appreciation of one of my all-time favorite films by breaking down the often-downplayed narrative in a convincing as hell way. Excellent work. I didn't know loving this move more was possible, but here we are.
I love the Peter B Parker is OUR Spiderman. He's from our universe. Coca Cola instead of the Koka Soda sign is what gives
It works because it's a love letter to anyone who dreamed of becoming spider-man as a kid.
Small Detail: If you pause at 47:57 you can notice how after he is ready to take The Leap Of Faith he ties his shoes to avoid any mishaps
brb bringing snacks.
Did he ever come back with the snacks
i guess not
and from now one I shall always hear it as 'golden age spicy' thanks for that.
Ok, I just noticed that Peter B steals a fry from Miles when he's looking at his phone. Love that
This is one of the best film essays ever dude I can believe how much I was crying through most of the it because the movie meant so much to me and my grandson and my grandson meet taking him to go see that movie goes what is the highlights of my life he enjoyed it just as much as I did I'm 40 years old and my grandson is 8 and it was just awesome to see them do Justice for miles