Win&Win RCX 17 (Black Wolf) Field Bow Review by Merlin's Archery Adventures
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2014
- In this video we take an in depth look at the Win &Win RCX-17 (Black) field bow. Its a very accurate and quick little bow that looks absolutely stunning with the solid carbon riser and carbon limbs.
So Please sit back and enjoy as we take an good honest look at this bow together
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I just got the chance to use one of these. My reaction was the same: can't fault it.
Owning this bow since 2017, after seeing your review. I use this bow for recreation and for barebow competitions. I have other bows, but black wolf is my favorite. Greetings from Indonesia 🎯
I will take a "too perfect" accurate and smooth bow any day.
Can a bow be too good ? The answer to that question depends on how much one appreciates quality engineering. I love things that are well engineered and if that thing is beautiful to the eye as well, all the better. I've ordered one and am now counting to days to its arrival. Nice shooting in the vid by the way.
Graham Whitehead how did you like it? I’m thinking of getting one.
I bought the black wolf limbs for my satori and I've got to say I absolutely love the combination.
Just putting this out there- as you say that "it feels like it's missing something". And I completely agree! When I first got this bow new I thought you were a little "mad", as you put it, but after shooting maybe 12 dozen arrows (using the same arrow but at 400 spine on my #45 on a 62") I completely agree. What I did do to change it up a bit was switch to a D97 Flemish. This has slowed the bow down a touch but there is so much more feel for where you are shooting over the stock endless fastflight string, which I will note is really critical of you're shooting style and is really hard on the fingers if you use a glove like myself.
Any ways, thanks Jim for making this video. It played a huge influence on my purchase especially when comparing it to the Hoyt Buffalo in your other video. The fit and finish and the limb choices were the major turn-offs for the Hoyt, hence the Win&Win Black.
Excellent shooting. Fantastic looking bow. Cheers from Canada
Great review as always, will have to post on my blog. Am sure I recognise that wood.
Got one today from Marlins very nice bow very happy with the bow.
Jim, I like your videos on the bows. With the Win Win RCX I like that you mentioned it has no hand shock. I have arthritis in my hands elbows and just about all my joints so the no HS is a big plus foe me.
I seen your other vid. on the Black Wolf and I think that would be the one I would get. As I said I watched this vid. of you did on the Black Wolf but I can't seem to be able to find it again. Thank you Jim and keep them coming.
Alan.
Just purchase the riser, well the Black Wolf anyway. But I’ve got cheaper carbon limbs so hopefully they’ll go together. Probably end up shelling out for the Black Wolf limbs at some point too!
Cheers for the review, Jim. I was thinking about getting this one for hunting. Any recommended arrows and broadheads to complement this bow? Thanks!
I just realised the ironic pun (either you intentionally or unintentionally made @10:05 or), when you said it lacked soul, but Win&Win is a Korean company located right near the capital, Seoul. XD
What you're trying to explain is your preference for risk/reward. I'm pretty new to archery but I have exactly the same thing driving cars. What you're trying to intimate is that shooting a nice grouping with a consistently great bow isn't very rewarding (in much the same way as pulling a hairpin at silly G's in an over-engineered chassis). You don't get the same feeling of accomplishment. It's the quirks that make the challenge. Without the challenge, where's the reward?
I'm shooting the same bow with long carbon limbs (32#) from w&w but with another decor since 3 years Because the small rise and my long daughter (30") the draught is 39,8#. The bow is very good, the draught is very smooth till to the end. The price is completely OK.
I have the black wolf 60" 60# at my draw, and the set up I have on the limbs it's pulling 56#, my arrows are 29.5" carbons, what spine would you recommend?
Great great job done mate
Hi there,. quick question what brace height was you running the bow at as the guide says 7inch. Thought I'd ask cheers in advance
Owning a black Wolf after your review. It doesn't abuse the shooter. Bows that fast are suppose to vibrate, handshock you ,make noise. But its quiet and dead in the hand
What 30# limbs would be great on this bow? Is the Win & Win be the replacement for the RCX17?
Nice shooting and a lovely bow. What was the poundage on this bow in the video and what brace height did you set ?
You mentioned that you adjusted the brace height -- if I can ask, what brace height are you using, and why did you change that?
I'm new here and love your videos. which bow would u recommend for hunting and target shooting for a beginner adult?
hello ,
I decided me for this bow after watching this video
i put 7 " band
are good ?
sorry for my English but I speak french
what level of archer would you rate the Win&Win RCX 17 field bow
Hey, I was wondering where you went after you left late night talk show in the US
merlin, can you do a review on the samick sage recurve bow?
The bow is stunning i must agree.
But you yourself are a phenomenal shooter! An amazing bow in an amazing archers hands produces quality results :P
Thank you for saying so, but I'm far from phenomenal... but the more i practice, the luckier i seem to get ;)
MerlinArchery Modesty is a virtue, but the praise was well deserved. Very nice shooting!
hello. can you make a review for hoyt satori vs win&win black wolf and if they are good for barebow and bowhunter tournament, cause i see many archers with olympic recurve 25" in barebow or bowhunter...
I have a Black Wolf 65lb 58 inch. One thing I noticed in your vid is that when you set up the shelf you only used a thin leather strip directly on the vertical part of the riser. Didnt that make the arrow tip point well right of the centreline? My bow came with an 8mm plastic spacer to add to the riser if shooting off the shelf and i still had to pad it out more to get the point to just left of centre. Could you clarify please?
Splashdown64 I have the same issue. I packed my shelf out with hard foam to push the arrow to the left, but noticed he does not do this.
I bought mine last year and it did not include a plastic piece so that must be new. as far as shooting it with the arrow wayyyy to the right, it works if you use a much stiffer arrow that doesn't paradox as much. I'm surprised he was able to do it so accurately though
Hi, I was wondering if it could be possible to review a martin jaguar, I think merlin used to sell these bows, but never seen a good review about it.
thank you very much
best regards
hi can you do a review on the bear Kodiak please. seriously considering this bow but would like to see your review on it first
which back quiver do you use?
is there a riser only option to buy
I was thinking about trading up to a Border reiver but not sure now! That looks lole a bow you could get very very good with! Mmmmmm
There does not appear to be much radius on the shelf. Could that be a problem?
Wow! you really hate that fox ;)
Great shooting mate! It would've taken me about a month nay... a year to hit that 3D pigeon.
I wonder how durable the carbon riser is in comparison to a aluminium riser
What is normal on a 60" bow? Not the recommended height by Win & Win but your own set up? Jim, I wrote back a few months ago, when I ordered W&W Black Wolf limbs for my BW Riser, and the noise I was experiencing when shooting it. I worked on this problem for a couple weeks, starting with brace height run in to 7" to bring it out to 7 7/8 ". The recommended W&W brace height for this bow is 7" to 7.5". I've gone out past this limit and have stayed with a brace height of the 7 7/8" brace height and tiller set to T limb 6 3/8", and B limb set at 6 1/4 ", anyway after numerous changing and re-changing brace and tiller settings, these last measurements, is where the bow is acting like a perfect "wet dream" it's a magnificent bow now, and I'm very happy with it, infact it's my #1 bow to shoot now. Oh the arrows I'm shooting now are cut to 26.5 ", 500 spine, 336 gram, or 518.6 grain, (which ever), and have a 150gn field point, fletched with 4" lite plastic vanes from AMETXGS, (from China) which seem to respond very well, and strin is a D97 Fast Flight, limbs are 40# but shooting right around 38#, with my draw length, anyway, bringing the arrow group in a 6" circle at 25 yards, all point on. Jim thanks for the past help and advice, with perseverance, I'm a total Happy Camper - thanks
That is the tightest group I have seen you shoot during a warm up.
Hi, your reviews are so interesting. I like to see it.
I use a olymic recurve 70" at the moment. My draw length is 31". I am looking for a smaller bow for 3D or roving.
Do you know the reaction of th rcx17 while 31" draw length. I read about a max. draw length of
Hi little late. But i have a Black Wolf and i have an AMO draw length of 32"5/6, it's not forgiving but works well. And i have a compound bow speed.
Loving the cheesey montage music
I'm always amazed by how tight your groups are since you're not using a sight or even an arrow rest and plunger - you're obviously very talented. This bow doesn't have fittings for a sight so do you think that you could realistically complete against an average target recurve shooter with this bow ? I was thinking of getting one for my first bow as I have a leaning towards field archery but don't want to rule myself out of target archery. Thanks
azw409 I would get an IFL Field Riser or bow that's taped for all of or most of the target archery accessories . Then you can just buy yourself a set of IFL Target limbs if you want them . If you don't mind modifying the limbs and are comfy doing so look into the hoyt trad line ( The Game Master 2 / Dorado only the tiburon and buffalo use formula like limbs ) . and if you want to do target DO NOT GET A CAMO BOW . Most leagues have a ban on camo of any kind on a bow or gear including clothes . I would check out Nusensei here on youtube for target archery . Biggest thing is to do your research and you should be fine . :)
Have you tried speed shooting
Yes, indeed it can, be sexy that is lol ... It's about time you posted this vid :P.
Yeah, you're not mad ... hehe I think somethings can be over engineered, maybe too perfect.
I laughed so hard at this and your comparison between the W&W and the Hoyt. You sound completely barking, but I get what you're saying about it having "no soul".
"It's almost like it's missing something"
Yep, a fault.
And maybe someone who can appreciate that without subjective appeals to emotion.
Taking the piss a bit with that last one ; )
I mean, that group though!
I have recently switched feom Longbow to Barebow (i have a Samick One piece Wood barebow) and i have been mainly been shooting "under the chin" but want to shoot "from side of face" like you if that makes sense? Do you have any tips also where abouts is your shop based?
Anyway l9ve the vids man keep it up
we have one in Loughborough and one in Durham... Take care buddy
MerlinArchery
Hey awesome video! At what range were you shooting? Because your accuracy is quite amazing
does this bow come with a left handed riser?
I believe it does yes :)
whats that bow run
so what exactly is the difference between the RCX and the black wolf?
Just the name... It's just a rebrand:)
Ha! Finally clarified.. thank you :D
I'm highly considering this as another bow.
I just recently ordered a trad tech pentacle II with black max carbon limbs.
It would be awesome if you could do a review on that!
Call me a Luddite, but I just can't get my head around carbon on a trad bow. I have enough trouble with aluminum But I don't have a problem with my fiberglass over maple limbs and the carbon arrows I shoot sometimes. I need professional help, I believe.
Do u keep these bows?? cause if u do. ur a lucky guy!!!
lol i wish.... i can only shoot one bow at a time i guess ;)
lol well out of all the bows, this is my favorite so far. :) nice review
Un arc dont on attend beaucoup mais au final, on passe surtout du temps à l'attendre. Commandé le 1er septembre 2021 auprès d'une archerie pas sur le net. Reçu le 20 décembre 2021. Le 30 mars 2022, au cours d'un entraînement en club, ma branche supérieure a éclaté, les couches de carbone se sont décollées. Retour et prise en charge SAV acceptés. Branche à priori en stock et je les attends depuis six semaines. Je déconseille l'achat de cet arc...
Hi my name is Ronnie and I have a questions about the Win and Win RCX-17 Traditional Recurve. My question is. The limbs are ILF right?.
And that's okay. However! are the limbs adjustable in strength? if they are? thats is not so good if you compete under FITA rules. So I hope you say that the limbs are not adjustable. Its okej if you can adjuste the tiller, but not the strength.
Regards/Ronnie
Ron For Hi Ronnie,
There is tiller adjustment and as a by product of that there "can" be some minor poundage adjustment but that is across the board with pretty much any ILF riser.
I never really recommend relying on that as a poundage adjustment. Ive seen way to many crushed limbs and blown up bows with folks pushing it to hard one way or the other.... I hope that helps buddy
Where do you shoot ???
At a secret location in central England ;)
Is it a club or range as I live in England and have nowhere I no of shotting except from a club (I live on the isle of Wight )
Can a bow be sexy ? Yes !!!!! but it must be wood and from a master Boyer like Acadian Woods , Blacktail , Morrison , Black Widow , Habu and several more .
nice bow 👍👍good vid send price of bow
I love how he can't belive what he's seeing over at the target, and looking at the bow like he's imagening things. Then starts calling it a "she"....You can actually see when he falls in love.... Right about here 4:45
There's no room for debate. It's sexy
would you recomend this bow with 45 or 50 lbs draw for target or hunting?
Its more of a field bow that a target bow, but there is nothing wrong with using it a a barebow in a target comp. as for the poundage, if you can cope with it 45 - 50lbs is a great poundage. But if you are hunting and its legal in your part of the world, id go for the higher poundage providing you can shoot it competently and and accurately... Hope that helps Radu Andreyi ;)
However is it still accurate and without vibrations at higher poundage?
What poundage and bow length would you recommend for small game and target practice?
40lbs + as minimum if your hunting anything in my opinion
MerlinArchery WARNING..It is illegal to hunt with a bow in the UK.
My son would say its soulless but perfect mechanically.
Yes this bow is sexy, sound of it is amazing just bowstring cutting air and bang of arrow.. You kinda messed up this review with music.. ;-) I really wanted to hear it from fiveish meters. One day it will be mine
Feel it’s missing feel
The longer one watches you while shooting this Bow, the more one gets the impression that it has given absolutely no real pleasure to you.*
*Translated by PROMPT
Really? A slow motion jump? 1985 called.....
Yeah I know right?! It's awesome! But unfortunately I had to turn 1985 down...
+MerlinArchery lol
Does it take down or is it like a longbow . Thanks
I'm shooting the same bow with long carbon limbs (32#) from w&w but with another decor since 3 years Because the small rise and my long daughter (30") the draught is 39,8#. The bow is very good, the draught is very smooth till to the end. The price is completely OK.
Not daughter: draught (fucking auto correction)
merlin, can you do a review on the samick sage recurve bow?
he already did