I've got a handicap son so we needed a bigger vehicle so we got a Saturn Vue with a j series that we are going to build the engine up a bit on we need to grab one of these great video btw
@@TexasHondaChannel id definitely like to see some dyno #s with and without it.. liked the little clip of difference on the injectors. Didnt know it would make that kinda difference. If I'd known that I'd done it when I had my boosted s14. Keep up the work. Like the learnin I'm getting. I actually worked on mine today. Finally. Up till rain hit again
In our opinion the money can be spent better elsewhere. Those spacers are only half of the stock, basically cut in half and with that only gain half of what the OEM stock does. He also nailed it on the heads, these do not technically gain anything, they will shift the power band lower into the RPM, gaining torque lower but losing HP up top. And when we say "A little" we mean a little. With these half size spacers (same as TB spacers) it will gain 1-3wtq down low below 4000rpm and lose 2-4whp up top. The full size spacers which require the hood to be raised is double the power, but again you are sacrificing top end for adding a small amount down low. For nearly the same price you could go with something like our HLP lightweight crank pulley which truly gains power all over the power band and you see a peak for 8-10whp gains instantly, slightly better mpg and a huge improvement in throttle response (less weight is less parasitic losses, basically the engine spins easier). And to the people that will say "You need a harmonic balancer" they obviously are not versed in J's, being all J's are internally balanced and we have run LW pulleys on all of our builds (300hp NA, 450hp nitrous, to 600hp Turbo) with zero issues. We are not saying there's not a place for these spacers, a nitrous application would be perfect for these...but NA, you can spend your money better elsewhere.
I have personally put on the p2r intake manifold spacer on my 08 accord v6 manual and it went from 266whp/244tq to 268whp/255 tq. Throttle response felt better also. Also not I had other mods and was tuned and added the spacer and did not touch the tune. However once you are getting near the top rpm the power HQ/TQ plummet significantly. Pound for pound I still think the p2r manifold spacer is the best mod to buy for the price because it clear ur hood and adds good daily driving power. But if you are looking to race and need power up top then this will strangle the car and you will likely be slower than without it. So it all depends on what you are looking for. I have dealt with Sean @ P2R and he's a great guy, honest and knows his stuff. I now have a fully built NA engine from them so I removed the manifold spacer as the engine now revs to 7500 so it would really be a drawback for my application. But I did give it to my neighbor for his 8th gen accord and he loves it.
@@RV-xb7vy You pretty much reiterated what we said but your overall gains are way more, nearly double what we've personally seen with any spacer (not saying it's not possible). The numbers we quoted are also untuned, so your figures do sound about right when tuned, though the large majority of customers these spacers attract are usually new comers to mods. There are cheap and easy to install, usually ending up being the first mod and then as you did they take them off when real racing becomes an idea in their book. We have Dyno sheets which were sure you do as well but again we're saying the same thing two different way. We both agree it's a personal preference, people take it offensive when we say "in our opinion the money can be spent better elsewhere"...as if we're dogging P2R or the spacer, we never even mentioned P2R...just spacers in general (there are many companies that offer spacers). That's not at all what we're sayjng and even said we feel other mods that truly gain power, not just shifting the power band around, are overall a better bang for the buck. But as all things and what we seem to agree on, there's a time and a place for everything and for everyone. Some people may want that slightly more low end if their towing something, but in our opinion and as you already did exactly what we're saying, you removed the spacer due to the extreme power drop off up top, being you're more targeted towards racing and that 5000-7500rpm where the power band is severely impacted with a spacer beyond 6600epm. It's simple laws of physics and air, shorter plenums (aka stock or short length) allow for better top end. Longer Plenums (AKA putting spacers on) extends those plenums and allows for slightly better low end but top end suffers
@@HalferLandPerformance Not taking away from anything you have done. I have seen you guys in the J series scene for a few years now and you definitely have my respect. We all have our opinions at the end of the day.
@@RV-xb7vy Absolutely. If you're a daily driven vehicle and want some more torque around down, hands down these will be a small bump. However, the majority of our customer either weekend race or are pure racers and in every instance once the spacer is removed they pick up basically a full tenth .1 sec in the 1/4 mile. You may think that's a lot to gain from just removing the spacer, but as you already mentioned to top end suffer huge from the spacer, basically from 5500rpm to redline, which happens to be where the J-series lives when racing. So it pulls power from the extact area you need to be truly fast. Top end is where races are won, torque in the low end is more for towing and daily driving. As we both mentioned it's 100% users choice.
The pilot already has a spacer from the factory for more tq. If you look you can see it from the power steering side of the engine bay. It’s about 1-2inch thick
And no its not "better or worse" it just moves the power band around. Go check out a dyno video where they test different "Velocity stacks" on a motor cycle engine. Some bikes even have moving "variable" ones now, "adjustable" because, sometimes longer is better, and sometimes, the" shortest point from a to b" IS actually best. Dyno testing inside - ua-cam.com/video/bw9lyk5qcwo/v-deo.html
Its a comtech supercharger from comptech but they went out of business years ago. I do believe they made one for the accord v6 but the hard part is finding them. 90% of the time its gonna be a 2nd hand item. I got mine used on offer up.
That stinks it doesn't allow the coupler to fit properly. Maybe have a shop measure it out for a one off? Hopefully something pans out for ya to use it.
Yup. Not sure about the CEL but if you just add it to a stock car it acutally makes things worse. You need a ton of mods before this actaully helps. Not worth it. Sorry bro.
@@SuperFast3OOOGT My TL is actually fully ported from the top to lower, lol I don’t recommend this mod at all. My check engine light has been turning on and off for after installing the spacer.
Laying in bed again . Guess I’ll just stay up 😂
I've got a handicap son so we needed a bigger vehicle so we got a Saturn Vue with a j series that we are going to build the engine up a bit on we need to grab one of these great video btw
Wow. Can't wait for dyno.
Good stuff man , I didn't realize I missed a few made a good morning of watching the channel! Looking forward to seeing AGN channel grow
Same here! He has tons of knowledge and hopefully it can be shared with everyone.
This channel has been given me lots of ideas
Maybe u could get someone to cut that 90 @ the throttle body and have it reangled down some n re welded where u can use the spacer.
Eventually I might just do that but for now it’s gonna be without the spacer lol
@@TexasHondaChannel id definitely like to see some dyno #s with and without it.. liked the little clip of difference on the injectors. Didnt know it would make that kinda difference. If I'd known that I'd done it when I had my boosted s14. Keep up the work. Like the learnin I'm getting. I actually worked on mine today. Finally. Up till rain hit again
Time to go for the power now 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That was fast
Clean build
Confused with what you did with the two bolts you removed from the runners
Thanks for the great video you inspired me to put mods on my j35 Saturn vue but where did you find the magnesium intake manifold?
Junkyard 2010 Honda Odyssey mini van. They J37 intakes are slightly bigger though but for sure the one I used on mine gave me 6whp Dyno proven
Junkyard 2010 Honda Odyssey mini van. They J37 intakes are slightly bigger though but for sure the one I used on mine gave me 6whp Dyno proven
I look on eBay I can only find a 3.5 intake manifolds but u think it make more power possibly and it’s newer
In our opinion the money can be spent better elsewhere. Those spacers are only half of the stock, basically cut in half and with that only gain half of what the OEM stock does. He also nailed it on the heads, these do not technically gain anything, they will shift the power band lower into the RPM, gaining torque lower but losing HP up top. And when we say "A little" we mean a little. With these half size spacers (same as TB spacers) it will gain 1-3wtq down low below 4000rpm and lose 2-4whp up top. The full size spacers which require the hood to be raised is double the power, but again you are sacrificing top end for adding a small amount down low. For nearly the same price you could go with something like our HLP lightweight crank pulley which truly gains power all over the power band and you see a peak for 8-10whp gains instantly, slightly better mpg and a huge improvement in throttle response (less weight is less parasitic losses, basically the engine spins easier). And to the people that will say "You need a harmonic balancer" they obviously are not versed in J's, being all J's are internally balanced and we have run LW pulleys on all of our builds (300hp NA, 450hp nitrous, to 600hp Turbo) with zero issues. We are not saying there's not a place for these spacers, a nitrous application would be perfect for these...but NA, you can spend your money better elsewhere.
I have personally put on the p2r intake manifold spacer on my 08 accord v6 manual and it went from 266whp/244tq to 268whp/255 tq. Throttle response felt better also. Also not I had other mods and was tuned and added the spacer and did not touch the tune. However once you are getting near the top rpm the power HQ/TQ plummet significantly. Pound for pound I still think the p2r manifold spacer is the best mod to buy for the price because it clear ur hood and adds good daily driving power. But if you are looking to race and need power up top then this will strangle the car and you will likely be slower than without it. So it all depends on what you are looking for. I have dealt with Sean @ P2R and he's a great guy, honest and knows his stuff. I now have a fully built NA engine from them so I removed the manifold spacer as the engine now revs to 7500 so it would really be a drawback for my application. But I did give it to my neighbor for his 8th gen accord and he loves it.
@@RV-xb7vy You pretty much reiterated what we said but your overall gains are way more, nearly double what we've personally seen with any spacer (not saying it's not possible). The numbers we quoted are also untuned, so your figures do sound about right when tuned, though the large majority of customers these spacers attract are usually new comers to mods. There are cheap and easy to install, usually ending up being the first mod and then as you did they take them off when real racing becomes an idea in their book. We have Dyno sheets which were sure you do as well but again we're saying the same thing two different way. We both agree it's a personal preference, people take it offensive when we say "in our opinion the money can be spent better elsewhere"...as if we're dogging P2R or the spacer, we never even mentioned P2R...just spacers in general (there are many companies that offer spacers). That's not at all what we're sayjng and even said we feel other mods that truly gain power, not just shifting the power band around, are overall a better bang for the buck. But as all things and what we seem to agree on, there's a time and a place for everything and for everyone. Some people may want that slightly more low end if their towing something, but in our opinion and as you already did exactly what we're saying, you removed the spacer due to the extreme power drop off up top, being you're more targeted towards racing and that 5000-7500rpm where the power band is severely impacted with a spacer beyond 6600epm. It's simple laws of physics and air, shorter plenums (aka stock or short length) allow for better top end. Longer Plenums (AKA putting spacers on) extends those plenums and allows for slightly better low end but top end suffers
@@HalferLandPerformance Not taking away from anything you have done. I have seen you guys in the J series scene for a few years now and you definitely have my respect. We all have our opinions at the end of the day.
@R V what mod you have done to your accord to put down 266whp?
@@RV-xb7vy Absolutely. If you're a daily driven vehicle and want some more torque around down, hands down these will be a small bump. However, the majority of our customer either weekend race or are pure racers and in every instance once the spacer is removed they pick up basically a full tenth .1 sec in the 1/4 mile. You may think that's a lot to gain from just removing the spacer, but as you already mentioned to top end suffer huge from the spacer, basically from 5500rpm to redline, which happens to be where the J-series lives when racing. So it pulls power from the extact area you need to be truly fast. Top end is where races are won, torque in the low end is more for towing and daily driving. As we both mentioned it's 100% users choice.
Sick build dude. Do you have a mod list somewhere?
Can I get the link all the parts ?
I have a 2006 Acura MDX 3.5L What Manifold Intake Spacer do you recommend? And how do I know it will be the right one?
I have a 8th gen accord V6 3.5v-tech and I wanna supercharge it, it’s quick but I wanna make it faster
Will the 2013 3.5 v6 fit on the Honda accord?
Bro how is ur upper intake so clean and you dont have oil catch can ?
That spacer fits in a pilot 2003?
The pilot already has a spacer from the factory for more tq. If you look you can see it from the power steering side of the engine bay. It’s about 1-2inch thick
I want a comptech supercharger but can’t find one anywhere!
They’re discontinued
Wait hold on, so the two studs is not needed when you add the spacer? Just bolt on the manifold after? A little confused
I think they’re replaced with bolts, the 6mm allen ones he uses to assemble the spacer afterwards
Forget that spacer, I want your supercharger!
Me too…. Me, too.
Got any idea if this fits on newer J35s? Not under TLX parts on P2R’s website but I’m not sure if it would or wouldn’t
Is that one bigger than the J35 oem spacer? I always thought more spacer was more better for the flow
no the oem spacer is 40mm, much wider , but can have hood fitment issues
And no its not "better or worse" it just moves the power band around. Go check out a dyno video where they test different "Velocity stacks" on a motor cycle engine. Some bikes even have moving "variable" ones now, "adjustable" because, sometimes longer is better, and sometimes, the" shortest point from a to b" IS actually best. Dyno testing inside -
ua-cam.com/video/bw9lyk5qcwo/v-deo.html
hi, what kinda supercharger are you using and can it work on my 2002 honda accord?
Its a comtech supercharger from comptech but they went out of business years ago. I do believe they made one for the accord v6 but the hard part is finding them. 90% of the time its gonna be a 2nd hand item. I got mine used on offer up.
Where did you get the longer bolts? And what length are they?
They came with the spacer
You can use the spacer and bolts from a J35. Use the Intake Manifold and TB as well.
Do you still have ac with the turbo set up?
How do you decap injectors?
Is this P2R kit work on all 2004-2008 Auto and Manual Transmissions as well I own a 2008 Acura TL Type S 6 Speed Manual ?
Yes it will work on all 04-08 TL.
@@jessekyler7831 thanks just got it done today awesome
If I’m adding a j37 intake manifold on a 3.2 tl which spacer do I need. Help greatly appreciated.
prob the j32 ones bc they connect to the runners
J32-37 Has same spacer save yourself some money and get one from the junk yard from a Honda oddesey they come stock on them
Where are yall located in texas?
Near Killeen Texas
@@TexasHondaChannel ok thanks! Im in the waco area
0:35 Spacer adds about an inch, raises it about an inch.. man is surprised... * Facepalm *
Where did you get that supercharger
He made a video on it. It’s a comptech supercharger and they’re discontinued 😢
That stinks it doesn't allow the coupler to fit properly. Maybe have a shop measure it out for a one off? Hopefully something pans out for ya to use it.
I’ll try a few more things to get it to work. Just gonna take some more time.
With the P2R spacer, will it clear the hood? Is your intake manifold from a Honda Oddysey?
Can I install a p2R intake spacer on a j30A4 engine
yes bro
Sell me the spacer and gasket
I’m gonna try to make it work still just gonna have to wait on shipping
@@TexasHondaChannel ok let me know . Ready to buy
I added this on my TL and it gave me a check engine light and it felt slower
Yup. Not sure about the CEL but if you just add it to a stock car it acutally makes things worse. You need a ton of mods before this actaully helps. Not worth it. Sorry bro.
@@SuperFast3OOOGT My TL is actually fully ported from the top to lower, lol I don’t recommend this mod at all. My check engine light has been turning on and off for after installing the spacer.
@@buddahcashin9283 You probably have air leaks. It gave my car more power down low. I also have pcd with full exhaust.