AC Cobra vs 392 Hemi Challenger
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2017
- I ran a 11.56 sec, 118 mph, 60' = 1.6 sec against this beautiful Challenger at Orlando Speed World in February 2015. He ran a 12.62 sec, 111 mph, 60' = 1.99 sec. At this time, the Cobra had a 500 crank hp engine. Best time for this engine was 11.37 sec, 121 mph, 60' = 1.55 sec.
That cobra said goodbye and sent its condolences
Cobra has the power to weight ratio to smack down Lambos and Ferrari all day long
impressive. Car is like the p 51d ..it changes the game like that
Anything
Yeah no kidding it's like taking a squirrel and shoving a Saturn 5 rocket engine up its ass and lighting it off.
"Spring little Cobra getting ready to strike"........that Cobra's venom is too powerful for that Hemi.
Sharon W - Thanks for the comment and for watching my video.
Try putting hemi power in the smaller sized cobra car and see what happens?
Wow. Didn't even see the Challenger after the Cobra left the line, only at the end! Lol.
Awesome launch! Power to weight and great driving skills makes it AWESOME!
R Januf - Glad you liked the video, and thanks for the compliment - although I think you're stretching it a bit. My driving skills are not good at all. I try to improve but nothing happens. Must be my age..... Thanks for watching.
@@redbay8527 your reflexes was fast enough to beat the Dodge driver.
Glad it's ready to go, keep the UA-cam videos, coming I love them, cobras are my all-time favorite cars someday brother someday
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I will have one of these, and soon. With cup holders and all. Beautiful car.
Arnold's Design - After visiting your channel and watching a couple of your videos, I can tell you're the type of person who gets what they want. You do some very interesting things, and I'm going to watch more of your videos. I'm sure one day you will have a Cobra, and the cup holders that go with it. That cup holder you see in my car is a custom piece the wife and I put together. We online ordered one that was pretty close to what we wanted. It was too big of course, so we took it apart, cut it to our own design, and put it back together. It fit just right. It's not used at a cup holder though. One cup hole holds an ashtray, and the other holds my cigs, lighter, and radio remote controller. The "box" part of it hold numerous items. Such as gate opener, garage door opener, flashlight, glasses, chap stick, pen and pad, extra lighter, pistol w/spare mag - you know - necessities needed for the road. The car had no storage space and it became a major problem, not even a place for the proof of insurance and registration. So we decided to add the cup holder and, later, the glove box mounted in the dash. That, too, is small. On race night the cigs come out and the GoPro remote controllers go in. That's what's so nice about the Cobra kit cars, you can build them any way you want to suit your lifestyle. I've gotten several comments about the cup holders, and they tend to be negative. I should do a video on just the cup holder and the glove box. Anyway, thanks for the comment and for watching my video. Let me know when you get yours......
@@redbay8527 That's nice craftsmanship on the holders and glove box. I know what it's like to not have storage in a car. I have a small Rubbermaid tote on the floor of my car to hold extras. My truck had more room, but the car gets much better mpg. What was your kit manufacturer, if you don't mind me asking? Did you build the engine?
@@ArnoldsDesign When I bought the Cobra in about 2011(right after the last Space Shuttle landed) I didn't know anything about Cobra kit cars, who made them, what they cost, etc. Now I know more about them. Mine is a Hurricane Motorsports manufactured kit. A guy in Tampa, FL put it together in 2007. It had a 302, 350 hp engine in it when I bought it. It was fine, ran good, was fast, and fun. But, I soon tired of it, and wanted more HP. So I ordered a 347 cu in 500 hp engine for it. That was a step up for sure, and it sounded awesome. I beat the hell out of that engine for several years until one night at the track it broke. After a race I noticed the oil pressure was low and wouldn't come up. I almost raced again, but did not - I went home about 35 or so miles away and kept my eye on the oil pressure which stayed low. The next day, my mechanic came over, evaluated the situation, and we started working on the car - dropping the oil pan to have a look. We didn't believe what we found.....a broken crank shaft!!!! Really broken, not cracked. I should upload some of the pics of it for you to see. One of the mains broke, and the crack went up into the block. The cam shaft bearing slid over and was hitting one of the lifters. The engine was ruined and it's a miracle that it made it home. I sent the engine in for rebuilding(it's my spare engine), and immediately ordered a new engine(the one that's in it now), a Dart manufactured 363 cu in iron block and everything else premium. It dyno'd at 615 hp. I had a choice of carb or EFI, and took the EFI, a decision I regret to this day. But, that is another story that I won't tell now. I have not built any of the engines for this car.
The old 347/500hp best time was 11.3 secs and the best time for this engine is 10.9 seconds. But, now I can't seem to get it befow 11.5 or 11.6. I have had nothing but trouble with this piece of shit ever since I've owned. Why I have kept it? Because one mechanic after another have told me it can be fixed. And one tuner after another said they could fix it. And none of them ever have. I've paid top dollar for famous tuners and it didn't do any good. I'm at my wits end with it and am on the brink of buying another, maybe with a carb. EFI's are great - IF YOU CAN TUNE THEM. I'll uplink some pics of the broken crank now for you to see....
@@redbay8527 I don't know if you're interested in going back to carburetors, but Jim Inglese builds Weber eight stack systems for the V8's. He perfected Weber tuning years ago with his own Cobra 427. If you contact him, you can tell him Brad Arnold sent you. I do vapor blasting work for him, and he's a good guy to deal with.
@@ArnoldsDesign I'll keep that information. I think I'm pretty close on deciding on a new engine. Whether I go carb or EFI I don't know yet....Thanks for the info and for watching my videos.
What a fantastic video. Thank you for uploading it.
Daniel Sherwood - You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it. There are many others on my channel showing this car race.
Hey my friend, u do a marvelous job,,,the cobra is my dream car,,couldnt afford it,so i have a 428cj fairlane cobra,,and a 460 fastback mustang,,LOVE THAT COBRA MAN,,keep on riding,,👍👍👍
460duck, thanks for the comment. I visited your channel and was disappointed that you haven't uplinked any video of your two cars. They must be a ball to drive - both being big blocks. What years are they? I'm sticking to the small blocks in the Cobra, though. A friend of mine has a Cobra with a 460 in it - one time his power steering went out and he said he could barely steer the car. We've raced on the street, and my small block slowly crept ahead of him. Anyway, thanks again. Get out your camera and upload some footage of your cars, OK? I'll be looking for them.
CHECK YOUR EMAIL
Red Bay i sent u 2 emails,hope they came through
@@460duck I had a friend that had a '68 428 Fairlane Cobra. Once I owned a '69 Cyclone 428CJ, wish I still had it. This was '74 or '75.
Great run! 11.5 quarter mile is nothing to shake a stick at... that's damn FAST! would love to see a video of your engine.. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the comment, and you can see the engine being tested right after it was built, just go to my channel and click on Playlists.
Great Ride! 👍💥
Cobra driver: "Honey? Gonna run down to the track and see what's doin'. I don't expect to be long." The Other Half: "Don't you be pickin' on those Challenger boys, hear me? You know they're kinda soft-headed and I don't want to be hearin' from their moms again." A small chassis and boisterous HP make for a fine race car, thanks for the post.
What do you mean "vs"? You had him at the tree.
My old man has two Shelby's, but man these Cobras are always a blast to watch :)
Shelbys*
Damn, blew them doors off changed 3 more gears and finished that quarter mile.
Hey dude. What is the wire hanging off the shifter? I know it's not trans brake. Is it a brake switch?
joemama1151 - It's a front brake lock switch. It didn't last long, either. It was a Summit brand device and it failed on the road one day. My mechanic and I were on a short drive to check things out, and it locked up on me when I tried to cross a two lane road to pull into a gas station. I was in the middle of the road and LOTS of traffic was coming at me from both sides. I just gave it extra gas and(with the front tires locked) muscled the Cobra across the road and into the gas station. The mechanic knew what to do, and with the tools I carry in the trunk, was able to bleed off the master cylinder and free up the front tires. Needless to say I removing the device and have never revisited that set up. Thanks for the comment and I hope you enjoyed the videos.
Sweet! Grandpa's rod still casts a tall shadow.
1Skeptik1 - Yes, it does when Grandpa gets lucky. Thanks for watching my video and leaving a comment.
Reminds me of my VW Beatle. I had in High School LOL
What hemi?? 🤔
The thing is cobras were not made for drag racing they were made for tracking but to see them drag race shows you that it's all Jack of all trades car
Marlon Elmore- I road raced at Palm Beach International a few times, but it was too much of a hassle to get to the track as getting rained on was always a threat. And if I broke down I would really be screwed because of the distance I'd have to travel to get the car home. I have a tow truck driver who has agreed to come get me no matter where I'm at. He's very good at what he does and always handles the car carefully when loading it up and getting it home. The track in Palm Beach is about three hours away while the drag strip is a mere half hour. Also, the Palm Beach racing is about $600 for all the expenses to get there, time on the track, and getting home. The drag strip is about $40 for everything including my grandson going with me. So, the road racing is just too much worry. The car did real good, though, in Palm Beach. It cornered with the best of them, even with the wrong tires, and it out muscled most of the other cars in the straightaways. Believe it or not, the best cars in the corners seemed to be the Mazda Miata. They were really under powered in the straightaways but really were impressive in the corners. Thanks for the comment and for watching my video.
@@redbay8527 anytime bro I just started watching your videos and man I love the races it's a shame you live so far away from the circuit not to mention the cost of it but it's fun watching the drag races and I agree with you about the Mazda miatas a lot of guys are picking them hands down to be their project cars now and days
After working for Ford, Cobra only one I would own.
Yes sir well done once again
Cobra has been down a couple of months for new parts. It's ready to go back to the track, but the weather won't cooperate. I'm sitting around - bored - and thinking about racing, so I thought I'd drag out some footage and put it on here. I've got several cameras, so I may start placing them on the Cobra with different views as it gets a little boring watching the same view.
The Cobra driver had enough time to pull over and eat lunch and still finish first.
Looks like SpeedWorld in Bithlo ? if not it's a twin track
Bill Bailey - It is Speedworld in Bithlo.... Do you go there often?
Where do you see Cuda? Its a new sports car Challenger
Thanks for the correction. I didn't actually notice the placard on the car, but assumed it was a Cuda. It was a beautiful car, though.
It don't matter what it was....it was in his rear view.
@@redbay8527 when are you gonna actually race a mopar that doesn't out weight you by a ton with less horsepower than your car . I wanna see your kit cart race a 68 Hurst hemi dart or Barracuda . The real deal car too . Not a out of tune 383 dart .
@@bradhardy2629 Listen, this is "test and tune" night at the track for tagged street cars. I have no say who pulls up next to me to race. Could be a pick up truck or a 68 Hurst hemi dart. I'm there to race and have fun, and I really don't mind if I lose, just want to see if I can beat my own time. What am I supposed to do, pull out of the line because I can beat the car next to me? I get beat, too, and I post those races as well - feel free to view them.
@@bradhardy2629 The Ford SOHC 427 was a dragstrip terror !!!!
That was nice!
Yaroslav Oleksiienkko - Thanks for the comment, glad you liked the video.
392 vs 427???
No competition!
Place camera in rearward position please!
Romeo Zulu - Since this video I've added cameras to the car during racing. I have up to four cams mounted now, one is facing rearward. Check out some of the more recent races and you can see what they look like. Thanks for the comment and for watching my video.
To the Dodge.... .YOU GOT SPUNKED
I would say anyting..upgrade the brakes and suspension..it stop of 100 to 0 mph is equally imprsseive.
And don't forget if they were both going 200 miles an hour when they cross the line at the same time the Cobra could stop in about 120 ft and that charger would go about 200 ft
It’s not a Car it’s a COBRA…
When the Cobra hooks...see yaaaaa👌👌👌
Detomaso Pantera - It does get off the line pretty good when I do everything right. I once had a 60 foot time of 1.4. I've watched the video 100's of times and STILL can't figure out how I did it. Very frustrating to be such an inconsistent driver. But it does have a vicious 2nd gear. Thanks for the comment and hope you enjoy the other videos.
Challenger,!?.... what Challenger!
Beautiful
Driver mod too
That Challenger got piledrivered.
No surprise there
Good for you Red Bay nice car and yes I will own one someday and as for the negative comments they are just jealous because you unleashed your dream ☺
Paul Ogier - Thanks for the comment, and I hope you get your Cobra one day soon. Hope you enjoy the race videos of an amateur racer wanna be......
Oops, I see there are 19 ( thumbs down) disgruntled Mopar fans. Cobra bites them all, makes no diff. I was hoping to find a Shelby Cobra in my Christmas stocking but all I found was a small wooden brush with no bristles on it....... for bald headed men.
just goes to show ya 50 plus year old ford spanks the shit out of new dodges
That's a newer car numb nuts, not 50 years old. Its a kit car.
Honestly, if I were driving the Challenger, I wouldn't have even pulled up to the line. I know I'm gonna lose before I hit the tree.
FIREDELL10 - Thanks for the comment - But I have to tell you that I've had my head handed to me by a few Hemi Challengers that were modified. So, I always wonder about the other car, and what modifications were in it. Once, I pulled up to the line with a car that looked terrible - a REAL junker. I just KNEW I was going to blow his doors off - I was almost embarrassed to be the one to race him - my Cobra so hot looking, and his car so ugly. He beat me so bad with a 10.4 second run. Check out that race at: ua-cam.com/video/5sKztL99wU8/v-deo.html
Hope to hear from you again.....
@@redbay8527 Oh, I know some cars are some real sleepers, but that guy knew his car was stock. My friend from highschool has a Ford Pinto with a Subaru engine in it that has around 600whp and runs about 10.5 consistently.
@@firedell1031 - it takes a lot to get a car in the 10.5 second range. Mine is definately capable of it, but I just don't have the driving skills to get it there. I let a old racing friend of mine try his hand with the Cobra and he actually did a wheelie with it. All the cameras failed me, and I have no video of it. BUT, the track photographer got a still shot of it with the wheels off the ground. You can see this at: ua-cam.com/video/iTGedjkSHuU/v-deo.html He raced the car twice that night, and showed no mercy to it. He twisted both axles and I had to rebuild the rear end. I went all the way with it, Eaton Tru-Track posi device, bigger, better inards, and the best, strongest axles I could get from Moser. I considered rear end bulletproof at that point. But, I was wrong because my son bent and twisted the axle HOUSING when he raced the car several months ago. I replaced the axle housing with a heavy duty unit(much thicker tubing), and upgraded to a 4-point rear(I had 3 point prior). SO, once again I consider the rear end to be BULLETPROOF!! I hope I'm right this time. Thanks for the comment, it was good talking to you....
Ain't this modded?
Its Kurt Douglas
Evil DroneZ. - I've heard Paul Newman, but never Kurt Douglas. Both great actors I grew up with. Thanks for the compliment and for watching my video.
Cupholders? Is this his wife's car?
Stompy TheWonderLizard - Ha-Ha - not funny. One day I'll do a video on that damned "cupholder" and people may understand why I have it.....Thanks for the comment though.
Red Bay it’s for his balls ! Lol
Stompy TheWonderLizard , I got em in mine too, dumbass
0-120 and back to 0 in 12 sec. quarter mile. Replica or not it still kicks ass like a real ac cobra!
Terry, thanks for the comment. Yes, the real ones were bad ass. Believe it or not I never saw a real Cobra when I was growing up. I never knew they existed for many years. Once I saw one in a car magazine it immediately became my fantasy to have one. When I retired I decided to get a replica Cobra and bought this one. The first one I looked was YELLOW with black strips and a 4.6 engine. I'm so glad I didn't buy it. I hope to be back at the track in a couple of weeks after the newly rebuilt engine gets tuned.
I always heard it was 0to100to0 by the time it took a vette to go from 0to100. Nothing about the 120 or a quarter mile. But it's possible. The things I'd heard was many years ago!
Light weight = free horsepower.
nilla003 - No such thing as "free" horsepower - at least in this $$$car$$$. But, thanks for the comment and looking at my video.
its got a hemi!!! LMAO
Mr Asshole it has a 427 side oiler not a hemi, fool
Chrysler ! Put the 6.2 in the fiat !
Demon is 4400 lbs !
How can all that plastic weigh so much ?
Big car with tons of safety shit and emissions shit dumbass.@@theflyingscotsman9902
@@theflyingscotsman9902 your just mad because the Demon will shit stomp any pos Ford product that has EVER came out of your shitty factory. Loser
@@bradhardy2629 the new cobra jet runs in the 8s your turd demon loses
Hellcat would stand much a chance neither
You would probably see him till second gear anyway.
You mean challenger?
Yes, I mean Challenger. At the time, I was unaware that there were no 'Cuda's. But, now I know. If I ever get back to the track, I'll have to be more careful and get the type of car correct. Thanks for the comment, Joseph.
Olds cool
Hey 03Bonneville - thanks for the comment. I visited your channel and saw all those old motorcycles. VERY COOL. I used to ride a 1968 Honda 360(I think) to college every day. I loved that thing. I subscribed to your channel and will be watching all your videos. Check out my channel and feel free to subscribe if you think I deserve it.
Enjoy watching you school these fellows in the modern toys
OMG that was a challenger cobra 392
4ds 4ever
Snoopy does it again , 11:56 aint quick , and lemme see you race someone who is good at driving Mopars lol
You dumb ass, I see your knowledge of Cobras is absolutely "0"!!! Okay then switch the two drivers in the Cobra and Challenger and the end results would still be the same. You should stick with your 4 cyl Honda Civic with the oversize muffler that sounds like a cow farting in water.
OMG is that a challenger cobra 329 ?! 😳
Hemi = Not much anything else.
you could not drive a Kroger cart. shifting like your on a Sunday drive my 66 427 fairlane weigh,s 3350 1.20 sec in 60 feet 9.00 148 you might weigh 2500 WATS holding you up ??
427med what's it matter to you? I'd be proud at the fact that he owns a cobra and actually drives it rather than have it sit under some spotlights and a roof for the rest of its life.
I'll bet 50 to 1 that you don't have a 427 Fairlane that can do 9.00 @ 148, hell in fact I'll bet you don't even have a 427 Fairlane. You are just another disgruntled Mopar fan, and you probably drive a V6 Mopar.
You have to excuse the new generation, they don't know why the cobra was built or have no idea of its potential, the cobra whether real which by the way is not, or fake as they claim is not a car to play with, you will get your ass handed to you
Michael, thanks for the comment. You're right, whether it's fake or real, it is a car to be in awe of. It was then, and is now, an "in your face" kind of car - you just can't ignore it.
only thing faster than a cobra is GT40/FORD GT
Boy are you delusional. 68 Hurst hemi dart will eat any pos Ford in the 1/4 mile . Wake up not to mention the Viper gtsr stage 4. Who wiped up on the gt 40 on nurburgring. Duhhhh I'm just a dumbass Ford idiot that doesn't know any better.
@@bradhardy2629 ford thunderbolt says otherwise
Fake snake!
Why do people race against cobras , your not going to win.
A SIGN OF INSANITY IS REPEATING THE SAME ACTION AND EXPECTING DIFFERENTT RESULTS...DONT WASTE YOUR GAS
Jerry Miers - you sure leave some strange comments...
Not a real Cobra here, but a Cobra replica which is probably faster than an original which had about 400 hp with the Ford 427 Side-oiler engine.
And why not when crate engines can be bought with 600+ hp, no problems!
Stewart W. You're right, not a real Cobra. And it is faster than the original 1965 427 AC Cobra. According to zeroto60times.com, the 1965 427 did 0 - 60 in 4.5 seconds and the quarter mile in 12.5 seconds. The 1966 427 is listed at 0 -60 in 4.9 seconds and the quarter mile in 13.3 seconds. Why the difference with the same engine - I don't know. I've tried to figure out my 0 - 60 while editing my videos as it shows the time down to 1/100 of a second. I mark when the car first starts to move off the line, then watch the speedometer. Although I know it's not too accurate, when I see the needle hit 60, I check the clock and have come up with a 0 - 60 time of 3.4 seconds. As far as quarter mile, my best time was 10.957 seconds. My top speed is 140 mph, at least on the straighaway at Palm Beach International Raceway. I hit the long straightaway and just GO. When 4th gear winds out, and I shift into 5th, I'm at 140 mph. I'm only in 5th gear for just a few seconds before I have to slow down for the next curve. And crate engines are the way to go. Mine dyno'd at 615 hp at 7300 when first built and cost a mere $13K - bolted right in, too. Thanks for the comment and the info on the car. New rear end housing is being installed today. See why at: ua-cam.com/video/j4FyEDhW2Hw/v-deo.html
Heck, those a good times there RedBay!
I remember the claim by Shelby of 0 - 100 - 0 at 13.8 seconds and a 0-60 time of 4.2 secs back in the day when the 427 was first available. Back then absolutely nothing came close which is why I craved one of these as a schoolboy reading the road tests!
Years later I could have bought a 289 all original flat-sided body version with 30000 genuine miles on the clock for 1300 British Pounds! Could not afford the insurance being only 23 years or so!
I continued to lust after a Cobra and finally by 1988, lo and behold kits were available, so between 1988 - 1992 I built a replica 427 from a kit available locally here in South Africa and drove that as my daily driver until 2002 when I sold it. Great car, totally reliable and FUN!
Mine was built up as a road going car with underbody pipes, soft-top etc. One thing I did not have was monster power though. I used a rebuilt Ford 302 Windsor with performance mods and Borg-Warner T5 box and saw about 300 hp at the wheels. Still fast enough on the road but I never raced it on the track as there were many around with more grunt, 'cos more money!
I have read that the later 427 Cobras were slower than the originals because Shelby sneakily changed to the Ford 428 engine which was cheaper but it slipped his mind to publicise that change. The 428 was the "soft" version with longer stroke and not as powerful as the Ford 427 engine. That could explain the different times you quote.
Wishing you many happy years with your beautiful - and damned quick - Cobra!
As they say - or used to "Take it easy - but take it!"