Don't spend a bean on it try and get your money back if he's a genuine trader you have 30 days to hand it back, ring him up and tell him what has been found and want a refund, if he says no tell him you will report him to trading standards make sure you do this in 30 days and record it ie text message or record it see this.oh and tell him you will report the MOT station for a dodgy MOT www.autotrader.co.uk/content/advice/how-does-the-consumer-rights-act-protect-you-when-you-buy-a-car
Fellow Quattroporte owner here, 2006... Buy some makeup wipes, and use them to scrub your buttons they will remove the stickiness and be like brand new...
@@markymark7mark588trying to prove those faults were present at test with VOSA may be an issue. The best you can hope for is they keep a close eye for a while on the test centre
Joel, my advice is simple and you can take it if you want. Where else would you get a £6k Maserati from ? Fix the suspension knock, new tyres (cut costs and visit tyre street UK). Sometimes you get stung and I have before but this is a fantastic car to say you’ve owned. Keep an eye on the rattle and enjoy it. Just put it down as a characteristic of the car.
paid 4k for mine on auction at ebay, zero issues, 90k, oh other than every suspension shock spring was snapped. I have fitted a set of coilovers from Gecko on it, I've replaced the spark plugs and bought 8 new coil packs which set me back nearly 2 grand. I'm now in the process of fitting a brand new stainless exhaust...
About 4k for the repairs? Ask the dealer for 2k as he must have known the engine problem and as for the MOT!!!! Then have the work done and you’ll have a well sorted Maserati for a lot less than 10k.
I’d feel inclined to get a couple of thousand back from the dealer and then go ahead and bring the car up to a really good standard. I’ve often bought cheaply but then spend on refurbishing so it’s almost up to nearly new standards.
@@MarkGelderland That is why I have stuck with Audi and VW tdi vehicles for over 40 years. Never had any expensive repairs, despite around 300,000 miles on 2 of them. Correct grade fully synthetic oil from day one certainly helps. The older the engine, the more it needs it. Coolant and brake fluids also need to be changed every 5 years.
@@wilsjane Well that's one way to do it. But some people like a bit more beauty and excitement in their life. And a thoroughbred car is cheaper than a thoroughbred woman.
Worth trying with the dealer but not expecting too much luck tbh. Only failure that I saw from the video was the tyre. MOT is for the day the vehicle was presented, for all we know the previous owner could have another one of these, swapped the alloy in question over for the test, drove home with a clean bill and swapped it back and traded the car in. Engine noise isn't obvious to those who don't know what the engines are meant to sound like so possibly just missed it. Probably can get a small contribution to the repair of the car but it'll be
It's great to see Ashley get some airtime on UA-cam. You couldn't wish to meet a more honest, committed guy. He lives and breaths cars, especially Ferrari. Ash used to look after my Ferrari when he worked for Meridian and I followed him to another indie and then was with him when he started his own business.
One problem with "sell this, buy a nicer one", is that you're going to end up with another unknown car - which may seem better than the current one, but a month or two into your ownership is no better than the current one. Sure, it may have lower miles or fresher tyres, but you don't know if it's got some other issues that you can't tell until a while later. It's a difficult one, for sure. I''m quite glad I don't have to make the decision. If you can get a bit back from the dealer, that would certainly help.
Personally I would try to send the car back if not for the issues but more because of the shadiness of the dealer. It is unacceptable to pass a car with no advisories when it clearly just needed a few things sorting out to make sure it was safe and roadworthy and then potentially look for a different quattroporte or something similar from a more trustworthy person
The whole point of buying a shitbox is making UA-cam content. Never in a million years is he sending this car back, nor is the shady dealer taking it back. Welcome to the real world boys 😂
@@stef1833 by law the dealer has to take it back if that’s what Joel decides and I literally said buy something similar (still a shjtbox with issues) just from someone who isn’t a shady so he can still make content on it
No he bought online without looking at it or driving it. You can't send it back, he took the risc and it didn't work out well. He had to do it's own due diligence, he didn't this happens. All for internet likes. By law? What law is that? You are just making it up as you go.
Many dealers have a dodgy MOT guy that can whip up a pass certificate and then when you go and get the next test done a year later by a reputable garage you discover the horrors...
Yes... you discover that you've been lucky not to have had an unintended trip through hedge sometime in the last twelve months... and got away with it...
Just checked the ( very very clean!!!!) MOT history and it shows the mileage has barely increased since 2018, hhhmmmnnn something fishy going on there?? Keep up the good work Joel
Joel, i would recommend getting the essentials fixed and just enjoy the car. From experience, that noise will continue for years and takes a long time to get worse. Even with a seized engine that car will still be worth a fair chunk of cash for parts. Enjoy.
Hey Joel, I must say that absolute love your videos! Regardless if your purchase is good for content, it brings me joy that you still do these "mad" things. I, myself would love to get into these things but always get a bit nervous about the costs that you might find down the road to fix the issues. It is just refreshing to see someone bold enough to do these things when everyone else would just turn around. Thank you for being you and please, don't stop. You're awesome man.
You know, Hoovie (Tyler Hoover of Hoovies Garage) got to the point where he was buying expensive Lambos that were all sorted and he really no longer much to do videos about. His MO had been to buy a hooptie and take it to the Wizard (who he invented and made rich) and do videos on all the work and money to fix them. So he started buying hoopties again. If you want views, get cars that need work and show people how to fix them and how much it costs. I liked this video very much.
If you bought the car unseen I'm sure there must be a degree of planned jeopardy with it. High Peak does it every week, so there must be a decent return on the content.
I don't even think at £6k it was a cheap car, if anything you've given a fair amount more than what it's worth. There's one on Auto Trader for the same money.. it's done less miles, is newer, is HPI clear and has history. If you can get the dealer to give your money back I certainly would.
The least you do Joel is contact the dealer see what his reaction is, if its not a possitive responce then mention contacting trading standards that should provoke a responce! good luck 👍🏴
Great mechanic. It is an Italian automotive product. I would have bet my house on it suffering from corrosion, material quality issues and in need of expensive repairs. Think fiat strada and weep. Recommend Aston Martin Rapide 4 door (proper 4 seater) or Bentley Continental (if a 2+2 works for you). Serious quality, better performance better materials throughout. Built to an engineering standard not to a budget. British too!
Suggestion: Do the essentials, rust proof it, then drive it for 12 months. Items like the tyres and exhaust clamps should be replaced by the dealer at no cost to you.
Wishing you all the best trying to sort it out. Hopefully the dealer listens and doesn't just block you but 'passing' an MOT that morning is a revelation. I guess it is still quite an expensive job even if you were to DIY it.
£500 for a set of decent brand name part worn tyres with 5mm + and the exhaust clamps fixed, drive it for a bit and move it on. It's pointless pumping £4000 into it - the day after you do, the gearbox will shit itself or some other catastrophe. Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em!
Not when it's a business to business sale. He bought it for his UA-camr business so Consumer Rights Act does not apply as he is a business and not a consumer!
@@wilsjane I don't like beating on people but this is female levels of throwing caution to the wind. 'I just got scammed on this car, the engine isn't great. Well, I better go for a long distance, high RPM drive without checking anything else. I mean, I'm sure everything else is kosher, just look at that seat leather'. For Pete's sake.
The auto trader ad said the car had platinum warranty for 12 months it mentioned trouble free motoring and the warranty could be extended if needed ?? Was that not the case ? I was thinking it would be too good to be true when I was looking at it the other week
Very interesting video. A certain engineer in Germany is having major woes with his Quattroporte GTS so I wasn't surprised when you discovered engine 'issues'. Good luck!
Naive is how you would characterise this video. Paying less than £10000 for a £100,000 pound Maserati and not carrying out a full fat specialist inspection before parting with your cash is just silly. A common sense rule of thumb, the older/ higher mileage/higher original value car you purchase, proportionally, the greater the due diligence you must perform. In this case, you did the exact opposite. The dealer must have seen you coming before you left home.
Sorry, but on narrow roads driving that aggressively seems a little silly. Take it a bit easier, especially as you're not sure if the car has any unseen issues. Just saying.
Up to you what you do, but as other people have said, take the car back to the dealer. Thing is, any vehicle sold from a dealer needs to meet trading standards and be fit for purpose. In practice, this means that you have around 3 months to take a car back if it's got any big problems, like this cam variator, and the dealer really doesn't have a leg to stand on. You may even be able to return the car up to 6 months later. Also, sounds like the MOT could possibly be a bit dodgy, but certainly was quite lapse!
I would say to get it sorted. Even if you buy another with half the miles, it can still have issues with the phasers. And overall, the car is in good shape. I think it's worth the expenditure
Get your money back if you can, those cars are lovely but really older ones can be ruinous unless your able to fix yourself. I bought one for £500 a 4.7 v8 as the owner had enough and was going scrap it. The car did run fine but was riddles with loads of other faults that just cost to much to fix, sold quite a few parts off it made around £3500 on it and scrapped what was left.
Well, aren't we in the same boat 😅😅😅 both got awesome looking and driving modern classics for just under 10k, only to find out they had expensive cam issues! I got a lot fixed and thought now it's worth the repair, 'cheaply' outside the E.U. on my vacation road trip.. the cam was the last of my issues, the engine lost 2liters of oil in the middle of Serbia, where nothing is covered by insurance and phoning someone costs 7€/min! Refilled the oil, and there came all the repairs I previously payed 2k for undone, back to oil leaks, dpf blockages... I am not rich enough to own this car, the question is.. are you?
What a great car :) stunning interior, wheels polished to perfection, not just sprayed.... Over 100k miles and £6k pp...I think u have got off lightly! - Personally, if engine wear item cant b fixed under £2k, I would run it with best oil u can buy for a yr or two and enjoy stunning sound and the sublime interior - Cheap bit of paintwork, tyres, clamps etc and enjoy :) How's your dads 125 3.0 going? - Fancy one of those - fancy yours too, but a bigger gamble
Enjoyed the video. My view would be either send it back (if you can!) or enjoy it and run it to the ground i.e. just spend the bare minimum on it to keep it going until it dies. The worst mistake would be spending a fortune on it, after which you still have a high mileage, Cat S, Zero history car worth no more than you paid for it.
Difficult one. Definitely get in touch with the seller Joel. On the other hand after the work is complete you have a well sorted beast of a car!!!! Good luck
Eventually you’ll get a misfire code and you’ll have low power. The car won’t blow up but you’ve got to fix it. Honestly it’s so much better than the V10 M5 with the explosive rod bearings. I just had my QP GT S repaired for $4,400.
Take the car to a reputable MOT station and see what they come back with. Is the tyre egged as a result of the cut? Has the cut gone through to the cords, because if not, then it isn't an MOT failure, only an advisory
Love this sort of video, it is like a Hoovies Garage UK! I can't pay it a higher compliment than that. Hopefully you will make the 4K required from this video to fix that "hooptie"! Keep them coming!
Number plates from Halfords, that in itself on a supercar is massive alarm bells. It's come from Solihull, Postcode B90, I live in the area. So, it really depends on from where in that area it came from. It's either and ex-footballer or, erm, somebody who doesn't care about cars, only their image....
Looks quite nice...I was lucky enough to have to drive for a day a 1969 Quattroporte (I was 19 yrs old) The day before I had been driving a Plymouth Satellite....thought that sounded and looked good. But a 69....Brilliant....to drive and to look at.
I dont remember hearing about why it was a cat S. Where is the damage? What repairs has it had? It seems pretty stupid to comment on a worrying rattle and then jump in and rag it for an hour to an engineer. Thank your lucky stars it didnt blow up on the way. You need to be a keen engineer to want a car like this, and be able to maintain it. The cat S virtually halves the car value regardless of its condition.
I have had a 2005 Quattroporte Executive 4.2 litre Cambio Corsa (Duo Select automated manual) (with Formula Dynamics chips for throttle control and increase from 400HP to 425HP) for 10 years; and a 2012 GranCabrio Sport 4.7 litre with ZF auto box for five years. The Cabrio looks stunning (of course) and attracts comments shouted across the street of "Rich bastards" - nice for my 10 and 14 year old sons in the back. The Quattroporte is almost unnoticeable. Yet it drives faster and handles way better and more easily than the Cabrio. Plus the Quattroporte has far better seats, upholsterery (Poltrona Frau leather), wood and leather and alcantara interior. Sure, the analogue TV doesn't work anymore (all digital now) and the in-console telephone is quite redundant now. While top speed is supposed to be 275kmh (isn't that a supercar?), the speed limiter in the infotainment system (bit of a silly place to put it) reigned the car in at 250kmh. No one, even the dealer, doesn't know how to cancel this - seems no one actually uses the car for what it was built for - high speed luxury travel for a family of five.
lol. You bought a £6k Maserati, what the hell did you expect? It’s a super car, they don’t get cheaper to run/repair/maintain when they get older. The MOT test in this country is of a woefully low standard regardless and guess what, the tester is human and can miss items. To indicate that the MOT is dodgy when you know nothing of the sort is completely out of order. Get a grip.
.Thats very true, Would not say that was a dodgy MOT maybe should had advised on the faults ? As for a MOT only valid at time of inspection ??? , Worth F/A the next day lol
I thought the noise might have been hydraulic tappets as I’ve had VW and Audi cars that made that noise. Engines can be noisy on start up anyway. If you like the car I would get the problems fixed.
I wouldn't have bought it but if I was you, I'd drive it, enjoy it for 6 months and then dump it. Have your fun and move on. Do the real essentials, tire, exhaust clamp, let the next owner worry about the rattle on startup.
I very much want one of those😍😍 Hopefully next year I'll have the funds for the car, plus a very very healthy contingency fund for anything that goes wrong or needs maintaining to keep it healthy. Wanted one for years and my UA-cam playsuit is just full of Quattroporte videos. Even the ones with tales of woe aren't putting me off😂😂
Had same problem with the same car but here in Italy things are much cheaper. Spent just over one thosand euro for parts and labour, the difference between here and the UK is here same car with 150k miles will cost around 25k euro 😞
@M539Restorations had the "bad idea" to recover one Maserati...rebuild the engine to the millimeter and didn't last long...but, good luck :) I really love these different cars that nobody has but it's a money pit
I work in a mot garage and had to work on a Maserati coupe suspension. Every nut and bolt was such shit quality and was seized and had to be cut and replaced. Strangely they were mostly in stock meaning it was a regular problem. The ones that weren’t available were replaced by BMW equivalents in the end the whole front suspension had to be replaced and it took 3 days to do a job that takes 1/2 a day on most cars.
Good! Just do that and the sticky plastics, and you’ll have a sweet Mazzer for many miles! Have a look around for prices for the variator job, could get much cheaper I do think.
The clean MOT sheet shouldn't come as a surprise. I've been telling people for years, that a clean MOT history is not indicative of good maintenance. There's so much MOT fraud going on throughout the industry it's unreal, and most dealers are in bed with their garages to do it. Hence why sellers can pump umpteen MOT's out on a whim, when selling a car. Equally, when a person takes their car for an MOT - when the garages correctly list all faults, they are accused of drumming up business, or extortion. I'd hazard a guess, there's thousands of cars out there with valid MOT's that are dangerous.
Once did a cam variator on an alfa. Spoke to the dealers about how to get it off the cam and they said they don't they throw the cam and variator away and replace both.
I would think it's a case of returning to the dealer with the issues you've discovered and hope he's "reasonable" about it. If he isn't there's always Trading Standards who could be advised. I wish you luck!
Yea the cam variator issue you can sort of accept, since it's bought unseen. But those MOT issues? Dealer needs to stump up some cash or take the car back as they have not been honest. I'd threaten to get VOSA involved if they try playing games.
100% get your money back from the dealer. You overpaid to start with. You can get a much cleaner Maserati for circa 10k, with less miles and not a Cat S.
Joel, I'd say go back to dealer get your money back, add some and go to dacia dealer, get yourself new sandero or jogger or maybe duster, 1.0 petrol 3 cylinder + lpg = best offer for for your hard earned money, however if you decide to keep her = only begining for more and more money throw into garbage trash
I’d cut my losses and sell it asap. The niggles will ruin your enjoyment of the car. As an owner of many Italian cars past and present, one thing you never do is buy them sight unseen. Especially Ferrari’s and Maserati’s. Look forward to the next episode!
Fwiw, wheels and interior are always going to be worth 1500. Calipers probably 300. Bits and bobs 500. Drive it until it dies. Maybe it never will. Worst case is it costs you a few grand for a couple of years of fun motoring.
Very interested to see how you get on with the dealer - I just bought a car that a few days after delivery (and under warranty) had complete failure and the dealer is trying to refuse fixing or refunding! Did you buy on a credit card by chance?
Still a very inexpensive Maserati, I would give it a couple of oil changes and filters with a few hundred miles inbetween , and Transmission fluid gravity drain (Not force flush straight away) and refil see if that helps for a start, then look at folks who can make custom exhausts and spray any accesible electric connectors with suitable cleaner.
See how the dealer reacts, if he is willing to refund half the repair costs, not so bad, the blow on the exhaust should not have been missed, tyre could have been overlooked by mistake, the car is not really that bad for its age, if the dealer is unhelpful just get a refund and mention about the sloppy MOT.
I would do the latter get it fixed go on and enjoy an adventure with the car, whatever you do don't scrap it! Cars like that need people who are willing to give life back and be driven how it's meant to be driven.
What do you think I should do? 😅
Don't spend a bean on it try and get your money back if he's a genuine trader you have 30 days to hand it back, ring him up and tell him what has been found and want a refund, if he says no tell him you will report him to trading standards make sure you do this in 30 days and record it ie text message or record it see this.oh and tell him you will report the MOT station for a dodgy MOT
www.autotrader.co.uk/content/advice/how-does-the-consumer-rights-act-protect-you-when-you-buy-a-car
Contact the seller, see if you can get like some money back or something. But KEEP IT! It's so cool and it will make good content 👍
Unsubscribed dumping my comment.
If that passed its mot with no advisories i would be reporting the mot station to the dvla , did the test guy have a white stick and a guide dog, ?😂🤣
I think you should go wild in it, High lift suspension and off road tyres and let's see what it's got off road 😎😎👌
What a mechanic. Tells you what you really need to do, tells you what you don't really need to do. A credit to the profession.
I loved watching that guy's pure enjoyment while doing this. It's probably the most fun thing bloke's done in days.
Fellow Quattroporte owner here, 2006... Buy some makeup wipes, and use them to scrub your buttons they will remove the stickiness and be like brand new...
It's a Maserati, Why would I, Would you buy a RR's and do that,
@@bryansmith1920 Wtf the fuck are you talking about weirdo
@@bryansmith1920 If it works, it works,
Great video mate. Thanks for popping down to our workshop. And we hope to see you again 😊
What was so great about it. Someone else told us what’s wrong with it. This is a shit video.
Hi Ash, I like your new name and it's great to see you on UA-cam, I must pop in and see you soon. All the best. Geoff
@@geoffaries pop in whenever mate
Good morning Ash MC Maserati will need a full service been in storage for six years a rough estimate for a full service, please mate
@@geoffaries his family name is Ooooo
Take it to the dealer and get a refund. While you are at it, report the MOT station. This kind of thing gives the car trade a bad reputation.
"A worse reputation". Fixed that for you...
Report the mot Centre to visa, its obviously a friend of the dealer, let the dealer know that's your intention.
No ring the test centre before you report them at least give them a chance to put right a wrong
@@wayneoriordan6749 How are they going to do that?
@@wayneoriordan6749 No….because they and the dodgy dealer will continue to pull the same stunts with other punters.
Meant Vosa
@@markymark7mark588trying to prove those faults were present at test with VOSA may be an issue. The best you can hope for is they keep a close eye for a while on the test centre
Best you speak to the dealer and get a refund. But .. then buy another one.
Play the ‘to be fair’ drinking game with this mechanic - you’ll be legless
to be fair you are right ......
Joel, my advice is simple and you can take it if you want. Where else would you get a £6k Maserati from ? Fix the suspension knock, new tyres (cut costs and visit tyre street UK). Sometimes you get stung and I have before but this is a fantastic car to say you’ve owned. Keep an eye on the rattle and enjoy it. Just put it down as a characteristic of the car.
Never let an engine rattle get worse, never.
@@thatpeskyswanin USA we add Lucas oil treatment...works almost always...
paid 4k for mine on auction at ebay, zero issues, 90k, oh other than every suspension shock spring was snapped. I have fitted a set of coilovers from Gecko on it, I've replaced the spark plugs and bought 8 new coil packs which set me back nearly 2 grand. I'm now in the process of fitting a brand new stainless exhaust...
Ur life is over..
That's known as mission creep...
@@andrewmooreandrewrmoore7615 🤣🤣🤣
About 4k for the repairs? Ask the dealer for 2k as he must have known the engine problem and as for the MOT!!!! Then have the work done and you’ll have a well sorted Maserati for a lot less than 10k.
I’d feel inclined to get a couple of thousand back from the dealer and then go ahead and bring the car up to a really good standard. I’ve often bought cheaply but then spend on refurbishing so it’s almost up to nearly new standards.
Unfortunately a Maserati like this will never be sorted. Repair after repair...
@@MarkGelderland That is why I have stuck with Audi and VW tdi vehicles for over 40 years. Never had any expensive repairs, despite around 300,000 miles on 2 of them. Correct grade fully synthetic oil from day one certainly helps. The older the engine, the more it needs it. Coolant and brake fluids also need to be changed every 5 years.
@@wilsjane Well that's one way to do it. But some people like a bit more beauty and excitement in their life. And a thoroughbred car is cheaper than a thoroughbred woman.
Worth trying with the dealer but not expecting too much luck tbh. Only failure that I saw from the video was the tyre. MOT is for the day the vehicle was presented, for all we know the previous owner could have another one of these, swapped the alloy in question over for the test, drove home with a clean bill and swapped it back and traded the car in. Engine noise isn't obvious to those who don't know what the engines are meant to sound like so possibly just missed it. Probably can get a small contribution to the repair of the car but it'll be
What about the two exhaust leaks?
@@geoffariesprobably should have been an advisory but if it's only a minor leak it's not a fail.
It's great to see Ashley get some airtime on UA-cam. You couldn't wish to meet a more honest, committed guy. He lives and breaths cars, especially Ferrari. Ash used to look after my Ferrari when he worked for Meridian and I followed him to another indie and then was with him when he started his own business.
One problem with "sell this, buy a nicer one", is that you're going to end up with another unknown car - which may seem better than the current one, but a month or two into your ownership is no better than the current one. Sure, it may have lower miles or fresher tyres, but you don't know if it's got some other issues that you can't tell until a while later.
It's a difficult one, for sure. I''m quite glad I don't have to make the decision.
If you can get a bit back from the dealer, that would certainly help.
Personally I would try to send the car back if not for the issues but more because of the shadiness of the dealer. It is unacceptable to pass a car with no advisories when it clearly just needed a few things sorting out to make sure it was safe and roadworthy and then potentially look for a different quattroporte or something similar from a more trustworthy person
The tyre slit is difficult to prove it was there on the MOT , whereas the rust is a certain friendly tester job . I’d be sending it back
The whole point of buying a shitbox is making UA-cam content. Never in a million years is he sending this car back, nor is the shady dealer taking it back. Welcome to the real world boys 😂
@@stef1833 by law the dealer has to take it back if that’s what Joel decides and I literally said buy something similar (still a shjtbox with issues) just from someone who isn’t a shady so he can still make content on it
No he bought online without looking at it or driving it.
You can't send it back, he took the risc and it didn't work out well.
He had to do it's own due diligence, he didn't this happens. All for internet likes.
By law? What law is that? You are just making it up as you go.
@@Flaggyt You have a right to reject something faulty and you're entitled to a full refund within 30 days of purchase, is the law
Many dealers have a dodgy MOT guy that can whip up a pass certificate and then when you go and get the next test done a year later by a reputable garage you discover the horrors...
Yes... you discover that you've been lucky not to have had an unintended trip through hedge sometime in the last twelve months... and got away with it...
Just checked the ( very very clean!!!!) MOT history and it shows the mileage has barely increased since 2018, hhhmmmnnn something fishy going on there?? Keep up the good work Joel
Maybe the guy who owned it before was an MOT tester🤣
I had a Quattroporte almost from new. Problem after problem. Then I moved on to Aston Martin. Joy after joy!
Joel, i would recommend getting the essentials fixed and just enjoy the car. From experience, that noise will continue for years and takes a long time to get worse. Even with a seized engine that car will still be worth a fair chunk of cash for parts. Enjoy.
Hey Joel, I must say that absolute love your videos! Regardless if your purchase is good for content, it brings me joy that you still do these "mad" things. I, myself would love to get into these things but always get a bit nervous about the costs that you might find down the road to fix the issues. It is just refreshing to see someone bold enough to do these things when everyone else would just turn around. Thank you for being you and please, don't stop. You're awesome man.
Thanks mate, I love doing this stuff and I’m glad you enjoy watching!
You know, Hoovie (Tyler Hoover of Hoovies Garage) got to the point where he was buying expensive Lambos that were all sorted and he really no longer much to do videos about. His MO had been to buy a hooptie and take it to the Wizard (who he invented and made rich) and do videos on all the work and money to fix them. So he started buying hoopties again. If you want views, get cars that need work and show people how to fix them and how much it costs. I liked this video very much.
If you bought the car unseen I'm sure there must be a degree of planned jeopardy with it. High Peak does it every week, so there must be a decent return on the content.
I don't even think at £6k it was a cheap car, if anything you've given a fair amount more than what it's worth. There's one on Auto Trader for the same money.. it's done less miles, is newer, is HPI clear and has history. If you can get the dealer to give your money back I certainly would.
The least you do Joel is contact the dealer see what his reaction is, if its not a possitive responce then mention contacting trading standards that should provoke a responce! good luck 👍🏴
O noooo mate 😮 and we haven’t even got into the video yet!!
Great mechanic. It is an Italian automotive product. I would have bet my house on it suffering from corrosion, material quality issues and in need of expensive repairs. Think fiat strada and weep. Recommend Aston Martin Rapide 4 door (proper 4 seater) or Bentley Continental (if a 2+2 works for you). Serious quality, better performance better materials throughout. Built to an engineering standard not to a budget. British too!
Bentley is German, VAG.
The seats are looking so good because it's probably been in the garage being repaired more than it was on the road!
Had over 120K miles
Suggestion: Do the essentials, rust proof it, then drive it for 12 months. Items like the tyres and exhaust clamps should be replaced by the dealer at no cost to you.
Wishing you all the best trying to sort it out. Hopefully the dealer listens and doesn't just block you but 'passing' an MOT that morning is a revelation. I guess it is still quite an expensive job even if you were to DIY it.
Thanks mate
£500 for a set of decent brand name part worn tyres with 5mm + and the exhaust clamps fixed, drive it for a bit and move it on. It's pointless pumping £4000 into it - the day after you do, the gearbox will shit itself or some other catastrophe. Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em!
Because of distance selling rules you can get a full refund anyway.
within 14 days, which Idoubt it is
@@grrfyis it not 30 days
@@kamster5775 tbh that is what I thought, but when I googled it said 14?
Not when it's a business to business sale. He bought it for his UA-camr business so Consumer Rights Act does not apply as he is a business and not a consumer!
agree If the dealer want fix the issue it should have to PASS a MOT --- then reject the car and get your money back .
2:00 If the brake lights have been replaced by leds, it can trigger that fault code.
Why Drive so Fast on Narrow Lanes in a car you Know got Problems.
Yep oncoming cyclist too in a car he doesn’t know 🤦♂️
Yep , idiots like this aren't welcome in the countryside.
That was so strange:
'This is going to be a fraught drive!'
6K RPM.
What is wrong with people?
@@jamesdanton9033 And without even checking the tyres. LOL
@@wilsjane I don't like beating on people but this is female levels of throwing caution to the wind.
'I just got scammed on this car, the engine isn't great. Well, I better go for a long distance, high RPM drive without checking anything else. I mean, I'm sure everything else is kosher, just look at that seat leather'.
For Pete's sake.
The auto trader ad said the car had platinum warranty for 12 months it mentioned trouble free motoring and the warranty could be extended if needed ?? Was that not the case ? I was thinking it would be too good to be true when I was looking at it the other week
Very interesting video. A certain engineer in Germany is having major woes with his Quattroporte GTS so I wasn't surprised when you discovered engine 'issues'. Good luck!
Naive is how you would characterise this video. Paying less than £10000 for a £100,000 pound Maserati and not carrying out a full fat specialist inspection before parting with your cash is just silly. A common sense rule of thumb, the older/ higher mileage/higher original value car you purchase, proportionally, the greater the due diligence you must perform. In this case, you did the exact opposite. The dealer must have seen you coming before you left home.
Sorry, but on narrow roads driving that aggressively seems a little silly. Take it a bit easier, especially as you're not sure if the car has any unseen issues. Just saying.
Up to you what you do, but as other people have said, take the car back to the dealer.
Thing is, any vehicle sold from a dealer needs to meet trading standards and be fit for purpose. In practice, this means that you have around 3 months to take a car back if it's got any big problems, like this cam variator, and the dealer really doesn't have a leg to stand on. You may even be able to return the car up to 6 months later. Also, sounds like the MOT could possibly be a bit dodgy, but certainly was quite lapse!
If you had a tenner for every time the guy checking it said obviously, it’d cover the whole repair bill.
I'd sell her for spares if they are getting hard to find
Sreten from M539 restorations is currently putting in engine no 2 on his one. Ask him what he thinks of the Maserati Quattraporte...
I love streten went to see him last year on my way to Berlin in my E38 .He called me project Manchester .
get michelin tyres on the back (all round ideally) ...... transforms the ride !
That’s the plan!
Or the right model of Continentals or Goodyear. Which as the Tyre Reviews channel has shown, also make some great performance tyres.
I would say to get it sorted. Even if you buy another with half the miles, it can still have issues with the phasers. And overall, the car is in good shape. I think it's worth the expenditure
You should have watched m359 restorations before buying.
Get your money back if you can, those cars are lovely but really older ones can be ruinous unless your able to fix yourself. I bought one for £500 a 4.7 v8 as the owner had enough and was going scrap it. The car did run fine but was riddles with loads of other faults that just cost to much to fix, sold quite a few parts off it made around £3500 on it and scrapped what was left.
Well, aren't we in the same boat 😅😅😅 both got awesome looking and driving modern classics for just under 10k, only to find out they had expensive cam issues!
I got a lot fixed and thought now it's worth the repair, 'cheaply' outside the E.U. on my vacation road trip.. the cam was the last of my issues, the engine lost 2liters of oil in the middle of Serbia, where nothing is covered by insurance and phoning someone costs 7€/min! Refilled the oil, and there came all the repairs I previously payed 2k for undone, back to oil leaks, dpf blockages...
I am not rich enough to own this car, the question is.. are you?
Ask the dealer for some cash back and just batter it until it fails 😂
What a great car :) stunning interior, wheels polished to perfection, not just sprayed....
Over 100k miles and £6k pp...I think u have got off lightly! - Personally, if engine wear item cant b fixed under £2k, I would run it with best oil u can buy for a yr or two and enjoy stunning sound and the sublime interior - Cheap bit of paintwork, tyres, clamps etc and enjoy :)
How's your dads 125 3.0 going? - Fancy one of those - fancy yours too, but a bigger gamble
Enjoyed the video. My view would be either send it back (if you can!) or enjoy it and run it to the ground i.e. just spend the bare minimum on it to keep it going until it dies. The worst mistake would be spending a fortune on it, after which you still have a high mileage, Cat S, Zero history car worth no more than you paid for it.
Difficult one. Definitely get in touch with the seller Joel. On the other hand after the work is complete you have a well sorted beast of a car!!!! Good luck
Eventually you’ll get a misfire code and you’ll have low power. The car won’t blow up but you’ve got to fix it. Honestly it’s so much better than the V10 M5 with the explosive rod bearings. I just had my QP GT S repaired for $4,400.
All you see on Facebook and you tube now is send the car back to the dealer, I will hato stop reading the comments.
It's been inspected by a mechanic who said it's good. Buy a tyre. And live with the variator. They don't fail. Sell it for what you paid in a year.
Take the car to a reputable MOT station and see what they come back with.
Is the tyre egged as a result of the cut? Has the cut gone through to the cords, because if not, then it isn't an MOT failure, only an advisory
Love this sort of video, it is like a Hoovies Garage UK! I can't pay it a higher compliment than that. Hopefully you will make the 4K required from this video to fix that "hooptie"! Keep them coming!
I mentioned that also. Already sorted cars don't get viewers. Hoovie learned that.
Send it back at the end of the day you bought it with sconfidence or get the dealer to sort the issues out
Hes a knowledgable guy..straight.😊
Number plates from Halfords, that in itself on a supercar is massive alarm bells. It's come from Solihull, Postcode B90, I live in the area. So, it really depends on from where in that area it came from. It's either and ex-footballer or, erm, somebody who doesn't care about cars, only their image....
Looks quite nice...I was lucky enough to have to drive for a day a 1969 Quattroporte (I was 19 yrs old) The day before I had been driving a Plymouth Satellite....thought that sounded and looked good. But a 69....Brilliant....to drive and to look at.
These sound really nice - you would have to be mad to buy an old one and even madder to buy one without history / inspection. Great content though :)
I dont remember hearing about why it was a cat S. Where is the damage? What repairs has it had? It seems pretty stupid to comment on a worrying rattle and then jump in and rag it for an hour to an engineer. Thank your lucky stars it didnt blow up on the way. You need to be a keen engineer to want a car like this, and be able to maintain it. The cat S virtually halves the car value regardless of its condition.
My 2018 Ford F150 ecoboost did this noise too. Had to repair the engine due to damaged CAM phasers.
Got rid of it a few months ago.
I have had a 2005 Quattroporte Executive 4.2 litre Cambio Corsa (Duo Select automated manual) (with Formula Dynamics chips for throttle control and increase from 400HP to 425HP) for 10 years; and a 2012 GranCabrio Sport 4.7 litre with ZF auto box for five years.
The Cabrio looks stunning (of course) and attracts comments shouted across the street of "Rich bastards" - nice for my 10 and 14 year old sons in the back.
The Quattroporte is almost unnoticeable. Yet it drives faster and handles way better and more easily than the Cabrio. Plus the Quattroporte has far better seats, upholsterery (Poltrona Frau leather), wood and leather and alcantara interior. Sure, the analogue TV doesn't work anymore (all digital now) and the in-console telephone is quite redundant now.
While top speed is supposed to be 275kmh (isn't that a supercar?), the speed limiter in the infotainment system (bit of a silly place to put it) reigned the car in at 250kmh. No one, even the dealer, doesn't know how to cancel this - seems no one actually uses the car for what it was built for - high speed luxury travel for a family of five.
Definitely see if you can get the dealer to pay half then you have a great car still for very cheap and everything is next to perfect on it
lol. You bought a £6k Maserati, what the hell did you expect? It’s a super car, they don’t get cheaper to run/repair/maintain when they get older. The MOT test in this country is of a woefully low standard regardless and guess what, the tester is human and can miss items. To indicate that the MOT is dodgy when you know nothing of the sort is completely out of order. Get a grip.
.Thats very true, Would not say that was a dodgy MOT maybe should had advised on the faults ?
As for a MOT only valid at time of inspection ??? , Worth F/A the next day lol
I thought the noise might have been hydraulic tappets as I’ve had VW and Audi cars that made that noise.
Engines can be noisy on start up anyway.
If you like the car I would get the problems fixed.
Good luck with this one Joel👍
What the hell is wrong with the number plates then? Standard, legal, approved plates. Every law abiding vehicle owner has them.
If you hear noise - there is wear - Wear destroys engines - nuff said.
The good news is that you can always sit in comfort as you drink your morning coffee.
I wouldn't have bought it but if I was you, I'd drive it, enjoy it for 6 months and then dump it. Have your fun and move on. Do the real essentials, tire, exhaust clamp, let the next owner worry about the rattle on startup.
Keep it and go on your big European adventure. Don't worry about every noise on an old car.
It might be worth changing the oil. Someone might have put thicker oil in to try to stop the rattling.
Im glad my Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio doesnt give me any major issues, sure its had its moments but nothing to leave me stranded on the road.
I very much want one of those😍😍 Hopefully next year I'll have the funds for the car, plus a very very healthy contingency fund for anything that goes wrong or needs maintaining to keep it healthy. Wanted one for years and my UA-cam playsuit is just full of Quattroporte videos. Even the ones with tales of woe aren't putting me off😂😂
STOP STOP STOP ...
@@295walk why why why?
Had same problem with the same car but here in Italy things are much cheaper. Spent just over one thosand euro for parts and labour, the difference between here and the UK is here same car with 150k miles will cost around 25k euro 😞
@M539Restorations had the "bad idea" to recover one Maserati...rebuild the engine to the millimeter and didn't last long...but, good luck :) I really love these different cars that nobody has but it's a money pit
Dude, never trust a car dealer. Like inviting a fox to a hen house and he promises to behave.
I work in a mot garage and had to work on a Maserati coupe suspension. Every nut and bolt was such shit quality and was seized and had to be cut and replaced. Strangely they were mostly in stock meaning it was a regular problem. The ones that weren’t available were replaced by BMW equivalents in the end the whole front suspension had to be replaced and it took 3 days to do a job that takes 1/2 a day on most cars.
Good! Just do that and the sticky plastics, and you’ll have a sweet Mazzer for many miles!
Have a look around for prices for the variator job, could get much cheaper I do think.
The clean MOT sheet shouldn't come as a surprise. I've been telling people for years, that a clean MOT history is not indicative of good maintenance. There's so much MOT fraud going on throughout the industry it's unreal, and most dealers are in bed with their garages to do it. Hence why sellers can pump umpteen MOT's out on a whim, when selling a car.
Equally, when a person takes their car for an MOT - when the garages correctly list all faults, they are accused of drumming up business, or extortion. I'd hazard a guess, there's thousands of cars out there with valid MOT's that are dangerous.
You could look at buying the parts and doing the work yourself? See if the dealer wants to cover the cost of the parts.
so the bad variators just make it noisy, and there's little concern for mechanical damage?
A back-box delete will drown it out and be much cheaper ;)
Once did a cam variator on an alfa. Spoke to the dealers about how to get it off the cam and they said they don't they throw the cam and variator away and replace both.
I would think it's a case of returning to the dealer with the issues you've discovered and hope he's "reasonable" about it. If he isn't there's always Trading Standards who could be advised. I wish you luck!
Yea the cam variator issue you can sort of accept, since it's bought unseen. But those MOT issues? Dealer needs to stump up some cash or take the car back as they have not been honest. I'd threaten to get VOSA involved if they try playing games.
100% get your money back from the dealer.
You overpaid to start with. You can get a much cleaner Maserati for circa 10k, with less miles and not a Cat S.
Get your money back and make sure the dealer and MOT center are to task.
Joel, I'd say go back to dealer get your money back, add some and go to dacia dealer, get yourself new sandero or jogger or maybe duster, 1.0 petrol 3 cylinder + lpg = best offer for for your hard earned money, however if you decide to keep her = only begining for more and more money throw into garbage trash
I’d cut my losses and sell it asap. The niggles will ruin your enjoyment of the car. As an owner of many Italian cars past and present, one thing you never do is buy them sight unseen. Especially Ferrari’s and Maserati’s. Look forward to the next episode!
Fwiw, wheels and interior are always going to be worth 1500. Calipers probably 300. Bits and bobs 500. Drive it until it dies. Maybe it never will. Worst case is it costs you a few grand for a couple of years of fun motoring.
Loving this car man! Dont know loads about them, but I love their vibe 👌🏼
Very interested to see how you get on with the dealer - I just bought a car that a few days after delivery (and under warranty) had complete failure and the dealer is trying to refuse fixing or refunding! Did you buy on a credit card by chance?
are you aware of Sreten and his M539 channel? he tried fixing one... and he's a pro
How much is parts and how much is labour? Do you need a ramp? With some basic tools could you attempt this yourself?
Still a very inexpensive Maserati, I would give it a couple of oil changes and filters with a few hundred miles inbetween , and Transmission fluid gravity drain (Not force flush straight away) and refil see if that helps for a start, then look at folks who can make custom exhausts and spray any accesible electric connectors with suitable cleaner.
See how the dealer reacts, if he is willing to refund half the repair costs, not so bad, the blow on the exhaust should not have been missed, tyre could have been overlooked by mistake, the car is not really that bad for its age, if the dealer is unhelpful just get a refund and mention about the sloppy MOT.
Im so jealous this is the perfect roadtrip car even with the issues id kill for one of these
I would do the latter get it fixed go on and enjoy an adventure with the car, whatever you do don't scrap it! Cars like that need people who are willing to give life back and be driven how it's meant to be driven.
They look like Mondeo with a pitch fork stuck on the grill , I would rather have a Mondeo .
As you say , how did that pass an MOT with the tire issue and exhaust mount; looks as if the dealer needs to do some repairs !