@@affe8808 I think bill bought the channel or the guy and bill have an agreement now bc this channel didn’t start posting new stuff until a couple months ago. Went like 2 years almost before posting new stuff. This channel is how I found bills podcast.
How can he correlate artists selling less albums because of piracy with artists selling less tickets to their live shows? If those artists he mentions still made half decent music they would still fill whatever theater or stadium. Piracy doesn't affect live show attendance.
To add to your point(made the same response a couple posts up), this situation is very similar to the movie industry with things being online for free. Monty Python and the Holy Grail released their material online for free(or netflix...w/e it was...) and their sales jumped up a HUGE amount, literally 200-300%. Today musicians make sooo much money in different avenues than before when it was majorly CD sales.
Lord Baktor I agree with what you're saying, but Burr is right - it's right for someone to take his podcast and profit from it with no creative input to his product.
Lord Baktor I don't have as much of an interest to go to a live show if the artist has a CD or recording available for purchase online. Why? Because a lot of venues sound awful. I'd rather hear an album which was properly recorded, edited, mixed and mastered through my JBL LSR4326 monitors and SVS PCI 25-31 subwoofer. It sounds great through my Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 digital-to-analog converters. It also sounds great through the Shure SRH840 headphones running through the headphone amplifier on a Mackie Big Knob or the 18i20. That's why. So this: "Piracy doesn't affect live show attendance." is false. You lie, liar.
Lord Baktor you missed the point entirely or you didn't hear the pod cast argument , the whole point of piracy is to get shit for free which is already an option with bill's content , he offers it for free already generously , the problem is when ppl take your free shit and make money off it
Chris Dishneau Yeah luckily for us when it comes to Intellectual Property it's not. Just look at the UA-cam videos taken down everyday under Digital Millennium Copyright Act
Unless Burrs podcast was not in some restricted system back then and on YT like its is not then he is *WRONG*. I can build a website, put as many ads as I want on it, embed as many of Bills YT Podcast vids as I want, sure the YT ads will still be there and he will make money off them but he *CAN NOT* legally prevent anyone from doing that. So I do not know if the website actually copied his podcasts without ads and hosted them itself, then its actually something different.
I've had the same argument and it is frustrating. A lot of it is generational. Most kids think that if it's easy to steal something, then stealing it isn't wrong. I've seen standup by Burr on youtube etc. and I'm going to his website to pay. What he's selling is worth paying for.
+WalterLiddy "A lot of it is generational. Most kids think that if it's easy to steal something, then stealing it isn't wrong" I think you're right. You're correct. A lot of these ideas *ARE* generational. But let me ask you this..... If nothing is stolen, then why are you calling it *theft?* If the technology is *replicating* rather than *stealing*, why is the false label being used? If an idea becomes marketable........ Should *ONLY* the personal, individual guy be allowed to use it? I don't think so. I think we got fed a crock of *SHIT* about replicating music and movies.
It's changing so that independent artists like can actually have a fighting chance at making it big. It's changing so that people the artists doesnt get screwed. I agree, it's not over it's just evolving
If you go on JRE podcast videos, all the commenters praise redban... But they're mostly highschoolers who can relate with him as he completely derails intelligent conversations.
+You Putin Me ? I love Joe but he would get destroyed by Bill. Burr has this average guy thing going on but I think he's extremly confident and doesn't allow anybody to fuck with him to much.
+armin38822 I've seen bill live at least a dozen times and saw him destroy hecklers at more than half of those shows. To the point I think he ruined those peoples entire week. Been going to comedy clubs fairly regularly for almost 2 decades and bill has to be imo one of the 10 best stand ups alive today,well in the u.s. at least.
Rogan's too good at getting along with people. In my years of listening to the podcast I've only heard yell at people 3 times: Jamie Kilstein, Brian Dunning and the British gay Republican guy, and they all were so inept they literally left him no choice. And he'd definitely never yell at a fellow Boston comic.
I know it might sound sort of odd, but I feel that he's actually arguing that they shouldn't be profiting off of something he created and allowed to be public domain. I think it rubs him the wrong way that people are trying to capitalize on something he created to be free or public. Cool guy.
@@karenamyx2205 I wrote this a long-ass time ago. And secondly, he beats a round the bush a lot and isn't very clear so I wrote this to explain it in a less grug way.
J Briggs Redban was wrong for one simple point... the moment Bill Burr pulled his podcast from their software, they made him an offer. Places like that don't offer people money unless their product will make them money, which means prior to that they were making money off him without first at least contacting him to let him know. But, Redban is on the podcast for a reason. He helped Joe set it up initially, and without him there's a good chance there'd be no podcast. Joe Rogan is has respect.
+Bret .Maverick Blank cassettes? Is that kind of technology released to the public yet? Sounds like expensive stuff there, why not just draw a series of pictures? Remember back when just anyone could grab a pencil and record events? BILLS ARGUMENT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE FLAWED BY YOU SIR.
He doesn't belong with the oaks, then. He did tech stuff for Rogan, and Rogan gifted him opportunities that he'd never have gotten on his own because he's not funny enough. This is like if JJ Abrams told his casting director "Hey, uh, we're gonna have my gardener play Finn..."
a lot of people download music because its bullshit to have to pay 99 cents for 1 mp3 file. they charge cd prices for music downloads while they dont spend a fraction of what they do making / shipping the cds. maybe people will stop downloading music when the industry stops being cunts
Music is art and I think that the concept of selling it is pretty dubious. The artist only preformed it once, and for that he should make millions? I don't think so. A performance *can* be sold, however. Like a lute player in the middle ages, or a rock concert today. That is work.
buying the physicall material is very important if u really like and above all respect the musicians. Most of them need absolutly need people to buy their albums
Gustavo Martins Sort of. Then they become extremely wealthy and it seems almost unjust. I like the fact that they have to actually preform for money nowadays. I think that evens everything out.
***** There's truth to that. But I just hate the way that the system we currently have rewards entertainers disproportionately to people who actually do a lot of good in the world. Real work, not to disrespect entertainers. But I think most of us understand the difference between a singer/performer and a soldier, doctor, fireman or nurse. It's just not the same in terms of importance.
John NoNameGibbon go fuck yoursefl no one is more important dumb person....they get more money cause people like you listen soo if u have a prob dont listen or watch sports
Larry149 IF you listen he actually talks a lot about how its morally wrong to take someones intellectual property and make money off of it without their consent. That seemed like the main point of his argument to me.
Bob Butts Congratulations on one of the best shut down retorts ever. "I don't usually comment on you tube flame comments, but when I do it's Butts!" Stay Thirsty My friend
This is an odd situation because there are several UA-cam channels that have his content and they throw up an advertisement during the playback.. will he go after UA-cam because they play back his free content with an advertisement?
The music industry now is leveling out to the times before CDs. This is because of piracy, it's a good method of calling out those artists who make 1 good song and 9 bad songs and sell millions of albums. For the most part we are not bad, people want to pay for music but only the good music. Now that we have iTunes people can pay for that one good song and forget about those other pieces of garbage. This is similar to people buying a single on a record in the 60's. The music industry from before was inflating itself too much and it needed to be popped, it was a terrible business practice that did not support good music.
Daniel Beddingfield But the way the industry was doing it before was false. The enormous heights it reached before was just inflation. It does not matter if the reason people buy music is so they won't feel guilty, they still want to give money. The music industry is the one who took advantage of them.
There is a value added with the convenience of having all of these podcasts in one place, but you're right that the profits from advertising should be shared with the artists.
IP laws are bullshit. Copying is not stealing. You still have your podcast. You haven't _lost_ anything. If I steal your car or your money, you don't have it anymore.
Your missing the point completely. a site stole bills material without contacting him to profit of his work. If Bill decides to give his material away for free then that's upto Bill.
+mike howarth From listening to him, sounds like he never licensed it - and if not people can use it how they like basically. Coming on to the internet and demanding people respect your material while ignoring the rules and laws of online information just won't work. There is very basic licensing for people who want to regulate their work.
***** I can't keep arguing against this. You can't steal someone's intellectual property and make money of ov it. its fucking illegal. If they didn't make money it would be legal...
mike howarth If its licensed, then of course. If I put my music up online and don't license it, and someone uses it for profit, there is not too much I can do. I can contact and tell them to stop, and generally they will - however they have no legal obligation, but rather and obligation of good will. Besides whether you agree or not, the law is the law. I see where he is coming from and it sucks people can just take stuff and do that, however thats why licensing exists. Its free and easy to do.
Lmao you still don't get it do you. You can't legally steal someones intellectual property and profit from it without agreeing with the artist. HIs property can be used of fans but not to make profit. He can sue them companies for plagerism... anyway I'm done here. Go argue with a lawyer,
Oh my... That was my first time i heard Brian Redban and to this day i think he's some kind of a ... let's say "Low Intellect" person. and Bill's right , It was the stupidest argument EVER!
i bought some coconut water and tried to mix it in my coffee, tasted like fucking battery acid that someone pissed out. it's actually fucking disgusting.
Griffter aw man, now I feel bad! Lol I was just fucking with you man, I can't even really see your pic. Although, you are male and it is a selfie, so there's that! 😜
Bill, you're wrong. The business model for the music industry hasn't been "destroyed" it's been changed, sure... But it's doin JUST FINE. When you can get millions of people to pay a dollar for a song, thats quite literally millions of dollars. Recording artists, like Steven Tyler in your example, aren't making music because the industry is destroyed, he isn't making music because he's FUCKING OLD AND CAN'T PERFORM ANY MORE. But look at the modern music artists. They're BILLIONAIRES because you can buy their stuff online. A dollar at a time. Sure, online piracy is a thing. But so is iTunes. They made musical convenience as easy as piracy to combat it. When you can pay a dollar and download a song, almost as easy as you could by pirating it you've got yourself a stable business model. So, when people say "You don't get the internet"... They might be right. I don't think you do. You have this curmudgeonly-old-man attitude about it.
its actually fuking destroyed you have no idea, my mom is a musician i know lots of them and the artist made more money with albums, now its harder they have to play more live!
and musicians are not billionaires ok the ones u see on tv are...they represent a percentage sooooo low i cant even find the number to tell you, and the music bussiness model is crap
real musicians need the record sales+the live stuff thats how they pay the label, and no one is making millions thoose are just a small percentage its like saying in the middle ages there where lots of kings and every one was a billionare
Gustavo Martins You can make an album and sell it through iTunes or Amazon, without the entire involvement of the label. Yeah you don't have their huge marketing machine, but you're also not their slave for X number of albums or years. If the music is good, the audience will be there.
I see where Bill is coming from and I agree he should take his stuff off sticher if he wants, but am I the only one who sees Redban's side? Isn't it like saying that Sony or Pioneer should have to pay money to somone when you put a CD in their player? Weren't RSS feeds, like Bill's, specifically made so applications can deliver them via their program? I can understand it hurting your iTunes numbers but isn't it the same as offering a direct download from your website? I don't use iTunes or stitcher I get my podcasts from the websites. Btw, please don't think I'm hating on Bill Burr in any way. He's a terrific comedian!
the site that took his stuff usually does give the artist a cut, but they didn't until Bill found out n took it down himself. Then afterward they tried to get it back by offering him a percentage. You're technically allowed to do what they did, his problem was the ethical n moral standpoint of the whole ordeal.
I completely agree with what you are saying Oliver Stolcke. I guess I just feel like Redban was catching a lot of crap for his view and wanted to say that I see his side too.
It is not stealing, it is sharing files. The same as if I have a book and give it to a friend it is not theft, though it might balance on the edge of copyright infringement, though many states do not see it that way. If I buy a Metalica album and then put the files online for other people to download, they are merely sharing a product I bought, like the above analogy, if I buy a book and give it to my mate that is not theft, if I give my little brother my trainers I am not stealing and neither is he, I am sharing something.
The difference is... If you gave your friend a book, you no longer have that book. If you share a file, you still have the file and so does the other person. Everybody does it, at least be honest when you steal something.
You clearly aren't creative though. Because if you wrote an album and put it up for sale, then received nothing for it, but everybody had a copy, you'd soon change your views. Nerd.
scoonboon Do you really think that people who "steal" music from a site, never buy the actual album? Downloading music from the internet for most people (me included), is to see if the album is any good before they go out and buy the actual thing. And the people who don't give a flying fuck about the actual music, wouldn't buy those albums even if there wasn't a way to get them for free. You know, the music business never was intended to be a gold mine that some genres these days are, and that my friend has obscured your view about these things. I bet you would do the same thing with food if it was possible. You would go to a store and try everything to see if they are any good, and after that you would actually buy them.
***** For some bands yes, it might have been a goldmine, but I wasn't talking about that kind of music (i.e. pop music). And how is it a loss of one album if I first download it and then buy it? Should I buy two of the same albums then?? Actually you don't hear the music some people might want from the radio. Because radio stations these days play the same mainstream bullshit that almost everyone wants to listen to, for some fucked up reason I will never understand.
***** The vast majority of music I listen to is not played on any radio station around here. That said iTunes has vastly changed the way music is purchased. Go look at any album for sale on there, you'll see popularity ratings. That represents purchases. For every album you see that has a high popularity rating across all their songs, you'll see a thousand albums where only one song has any attention and the rest are largely ignored. So now you have albums out there that people actually have a legal choice on what songs they want from them. But it's like Phil Spector said when he was talking about Albums being pointless, and why he always preferred EPs. You get an album with one or two gems and then 10 filler tracks. Or you have an EP with the choice cuts. Also look at services like Spotify and now Amazon Prime's music. Where you're not buying the album you're buying a subscription. Yes the music industry was a gold mine, so was the housing market, remember that? Over inflated and unsustainable. The industry has corrected itself.
i remember when i used to listen to rogans pod cast. this was one of the episodes that started the down fall of how much i could tolerate watching / listening because of that "male assistant"
He said Rogan gets 250,000 hits a week. That’s when I realized this is a decade old 😂
Half a decade
K H decade, 10 years=decade
@@feonor26 half a decade?
@@eonasep yeah i dont know what i was thinking :P
@@feonor26 glad I could see this conversation its entirety on a video from a decade ago
The irony of listening to this on a bill burr podcast fan channel with pre roll ads😂
TheNutSlapper69 There’s thousands of these channels.
Naruto Can Kill Goku but this is basically the official fan UA-cam channel
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You don't get ads if you smack premium
I didn't get ads I think this got demonitized.
LMAO....male assistant tech guy.
aanonymouscowardsays Bill throwing disrespect there lolol
Brian Redban
He called redban a male assistant lol
hahahaha that was awesome
He is talking about jamie, you dipshit
@@zanzibar6508 you are wrong friend. Mind your tongue when you dont know what you're talking about
Loud and so fuxking wrong smh. This was before Jamie you dipshit.
@@tillison23459 lmao true newbies.
Yes. I have permission to post all these clips.
Yea, stated after hearing the person says they wont sue..
Doya stillhave permission?
@@affe8808 I think bill bought the channel or the guy and bill have an agreement now bc this channel didn’t start posting new stuff until a couple months ago. Went like 2 years almost before posting new stuff. This channel is how I found bills podcast.
@@scottthegeneticfreaksteine393 o, ok.
he was arguing with redban LOL
+ping6uod Lmao He just did another JRE, and I don't think Redban was there.
+GBS he's been on there a few times since this and he's made up with redban
+ping6uod He's been fine with redban...for years.
+Gmork yes, thanks for restating what I just said lol
this was posted years back. i don't think Jamie was there. it doesn't sound like an argument he would make anyway.
In Bryan Redbans defense, he was dropped on his head multiple times as an infant.
Purposely.
@@HoustonT17 lmao
FYI, the coconut water he's talking about is C20 Coconut Water.
Yes of course they are great!
MAC LETHAL THE GOAT
🔥 or what
@@what-a-life8097 YESSIR
I live in Minnesota, I can't get it anyways.
Jamie. Pull that up.
-Jamie pulls it up to find it was actually Redban-
How can he correlate artists selling less albums because of piracy with artists selling less tickets to their live shows? If those artists he mentions still made half decent music they would still fill whatever theater or stadium. Piracy doesn't affect live show attendance.
To add to your point(made the same response a couple posts up), this situation is very similar to the movie industry with things being online for free. Monty Python and the Holy Grail released their material online for free(or netflix...w/e it was...) and their sales jumped up a HUGE amount, literally 200-300%. Today musicians make sooo much money in different avenues than before when it was majorly CD sales.
Nathan Rock Someone whoe gets it. I have explained that to hundreds of people and they never get it.
Lord Baktor I agree with what you're saying, but Burr is right - it's right for someone to take his podcast and profit from it with no creative input to his product.
Lord Baktor I don't have as much of an interest to go to a live show if the artist has a CD or recording available for purchase online. Why? Because a lot of venues sound awful. I'd rather hear an album which was properly recorded, edited, mixed and mastered through my JBL LSR4326 monitors and SVS PCI 25-31 subwoofer. It sounds great through my Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 digital-to-analog converters. It also sounds great through the Shure SRH840 headphones running through the headphone amplifier on a Mackie Big Knob or the 18i20. That's why.
So this:
"Piracy doesn't affect live show attendance."
is false. You lie, liar.
Lord Baktor you missed the point entirely or you didn't hear the pod cast argument , the whole point of piracy is to get shit for free which is already an option with bill's content , he offers it for free already generously , the problem is when ppl take your free shit and make money off it
Bill Burr is one off the funniest comedians alive today!!!!!!
I love the fact that bill added “who went to lawschool” after mentioning the guy is a lawyer
😂😂
Bill is 100% right morally and legally!
Night Rider legal and moral are almost always completely polar opposites
Chris Dishneau Yeah luckily for us when it comes to Intellectual Property it's not. Just look at the UA-cam videos taken down everyday under Digital Millennium Copyright Act
Chris Dishneau: "almost always"
That's laughably wrong.
Night Rider isn't it funny that the guy who posted this video is doing that exact thing
Unless Burrs podcast was not in some restricted system back then and on YT like its is not then he is *WRONG*. I can build a website, put as many ads as I want on it, embed as many of Bills YT Podcast vids as I want, sure the YT ads will still be there and he will make money off them but he *CAN NOT* legally prevent anyone from doing that. So I do not know if the website actually copied his podcasts without ads and hosted them itself, then its actually something different.
Who’s here in 2019 and now needs to watch that Joe Rogan Episode?
Haha ill watch it tomorrow so its 2019
It's 2019 here now soooo...
Link?
@@thekid4576 ua-cam.com/video/zeKsMbXeLSI/v-deo.html jump to 2:22:33
2020
Bill Burr is 100 percent right.
his "girlfriend" voice always cracks me up . you are the man mr. burr
If only Bill knew about the dozens of UA-cam channels that would eventually post clips of his podcast
I'm listening to that JRE right now and Redban is driving me crazy.
shinystuffff yes, I don’t get why Joe Rogan messes with him, couldn’t he do so much better and cooler?
You can listen to 2 podcasts at the same time, respect nogga
Which episode is it?
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@TranquilVision Not me. I'm not making any money from these clips.
Bill is great... He's so abrasive - and righteously so.
Still watching this in 2016
nicholas chryssafis 2018 baby, how you doin with your harambe memes back there
@@Experiment53. 2019 how was the tide pod challenge grandpa?
The Hindu Hammer like an oral creampie made of bleach
2020
@@Experiment53. God I hate that I posted one of these "Who's still watching in blah blah blah"
6:03 LIME WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiire
Magnus McCloud most underrated comment :3
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Magnus McCloud LIVE WIRE
"Where are we gonna put the cereal?!" Fucking hilarious
I love Bill's 'female voice'.
Fuckin' kills me every time.
I've had the same argument and it is frustrating. A lot of it is generational. Most kids think that if it's easy to steal something, then stealing it isn't wrong. I've seen standup by Burr on youtube etc. and I'm going to his website to pay. What he's selling is worth paying for.
+WalterLiddy "A lot of it is generational. Most kids think that if it's easy to steal something, then stealing it isn't wrong"
I think you're right. You're correct. A lot of these ideas *ARE* generational.
But let me ask you this..... If nothing is stolen, then why are you calling it *theft?*
If the technology is *replicating* rather than *stealing*, why is the false label being used?
If an idea becomes marketable........ Should *ONLY* the personal, individual guy be allowed to use it?
I don't think so.
I think we got fed a crock of *SHIT* about replicating music and movies.
I make websites that have ads and Bill is completely right.
Do you aye
that voice bill does when he's imitating his girlfriend fucking gets me every time LOL
joe said it was illagal right before they started arguing. redban just didnt want to except it
Haha 'where are we gonna put the cereal?'
Yeah but RSS feeds
thank you for the steven tyler bit!!!
" i called my lawyer who went to law school " lol
It's not over, it's changing.
It's changing so that independent artists like can actually have a fighting chance at making it big. It's changing so that people the artists doesnt get screwed. I agree, it's not over it's just evolving
“He gets like 250k hits a week”
Man that sounds surreal by today’s standards.
Anything that starts out with, "ANYways....what the fuck am I talking about here?....", has got to be gold.
Legend. Keep it coming
that picture of bill.
If you go on JRE podcast videos, all the commenters praise redban... But they're mostly highschoolers who can relate with him as he completely derails intelligent conversations.
hairoftehdog now all the commenters are bashing him like they should be lol
@@novaofthenorth who's Redban? Was he there before Jamie? Or is that Jamie 😂
hairofthedog yes it's mostly high school kids that agree with Redban. That's because he is as immature as high school kids and he is 40 years old
We're not stealing your music "we're sharing files" 😂
I was hopping the argument was between Rogan and Bill; a heated argument between those two would be awesome :p
+You Putin Me ? I love Joe but he would get destroyed by Bill. Burr has this average guy thing going on but I think he's extremly confident and doesn't allow anybody to fuck with him to much.
+armin38822 I've seen bill live at least a dozen times and saw him destroy hecklers at more than half of those shows. To the point I think he ruined those peoples entire week. Been going to comedy clubs fairly regularly for almost 2 decades and bill has to be imo one of the 10 best stand ups alive today,well in the u.s. at least.
leepicciotto no doubt !
Rogan's too good at getting along with people. In my years of listening to the podcast I've only heard yell at people 3 times: Jamie Kilstein, Brian Dunning and the British gay Republican guy, and they all were so inept they literally left him no choice. And he'd definitely never yell at a fellow Boston comic.
+Pete Jones Brian Dunning was brutal. That bitch deserved to be slapped
I know it might sound sort of odd, but I feel that he's actually arguing that they shouldn't be profiting off of something he created and allowed to be public domain.
I think it rubs him the wrong way that people are trying to capitalize on something he created to be free or public. Cool guy.
Hows that odd? It's literally exactly what he said.
@@karenamyx2205 I wrote this a long-ass time ago. And secondly, he beats a round the bush a lot and isn't very clear so I wrote this to explain it in a less grug way.
"Its like i'm talking to my mom about email..."
Music piracy is like seeing your friend's painting, then taking a photo of it.
*checks to make sure this is the official podcast channel*
“Phew...”
Redban isn't even good at what he does. He's a leech.
Redban was totally right in that argument.
J Briggs
Nope. He was very wrong
J Briggs Redban was wrong for one simple point... the moment Bill Burr pulled his podcast from their software, they made him an offer. Places like that don't offer people money unless their product will make them money, which means prior to that they were making money off him without first at least contacting him to let him know.
But, Redban is on the podcast for a reason. He helped Joe set it up initially, and without him there's a good chance there'd be no podcast. Joe Rogan is has respect.
J Briggs Redban was just giving away his opinion. But opinions are worthless unless you back them up with a sound argument.
He's not? Video editing, producing podcasts? He's great. But he's a piece of shit to women. "my mexican". what the fuck
the fact that joe can stand to be around redban i think says alot about him i cant stand that dude
"I get the internet: people like to argue". Brilliant.
Im definitely with you on avoiding traffic. Pretty much hibernate between 3-6 on weekdays
But do you remember when you could use a blank cassette and record songs off the radio? Anybody could do it.
+Bret .Maverick you can still do it today tough guy.
***** Yes i know.
+Bret .Maverick Blank cassettes? Is that kind of technology released to the public yet? Sounds like expensive stuff there, why not just draw a series of pictures? Remember back when just anyone could grab a pencil and record events? BILLS ARGUMENT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE FLAWED BY YOU SIR.
King Leonidis fuck off
Bret .Maverick remember when you could rub 2 sticks together and it could ignite a flame?
Bill don't have the link to the Joe Rogan's interview because he don't get the internet.
@TranquilVision Anybody that uploads a video on here has the option to not have ads on their videos
"first a water cooler and now a case of cocnut water? where are we going to put the cereal!?"
I love Bill, so smart and funny! Please don't be to hard on Red he is a Sapling amongst Oaks!
He doesn't belong with the oaks, then. He did tech stuff for Rogan, and Rogan gifted him opportunities that he'd never have gotten on his own because he's not funny enough. This is like if JJ Abrams told his casting director "Hey, uh, we're gonna have my gardener play Finn..."
Josh R He is hilarious, perhaps it is a little more intellectual than the fart jokes you are use to?! That is ok though!
+Mad Flavor Disciple smart? doesnt he believe in god?
+Mad Flavor Disciple smart? he's a conspiracy theorist
jj abrams They can't be smart?
a lot of people download music because its bullshit to have to pay 99 cents for 1 mp3 file. they charge cd prices for music downloads while they dont spend a fraction of what they do making / shipping the cds. maybe people will stop downloading music when the industry stops being cunts
Music is art and I think that the concept of selling it is pretty dubious. The artist only preformed it once, and for that he should make millions? I don't think so.
A performance *can* be sold, however. Like a lute player in the middle ages, or a rock concert today. That is work.
buying the physicall material is very important if u really like and above all respect the musicians. Most of them need absolutly need people to buy their albums
Gustavo Martins Sort of. Then they become extremely wealthy and it seems almost unjust. I like the fact that they have to actually preform for money nowadays. I think that evens everything out.
***** There's truth to that.
But I just hate the way that the system we currently have rewards entertainers disproportionately to people who actually do a lot of good in the world. Real work, not to disrespect entertainers.
But I think most of us understand the difference between a singer/performer and a soldier, doctor, fireman or nurse. It's just not the same in terms of importance.
John NoNameGibbon go fuck yoursefl no one is more important dumb person....they get more money cause people like you listen soo if u have a prob dont listen or watch sports
Anyone have the link to the argument? i'd appreciate it, thx.
this man is truly a inspiring podcast artist...
I had to watch a commercial before this video. I wonder if MMPC contacted Bill Burr to get permission for this. Oh the Irony.
If you haven't dowloaded it already, AdBlock. It'll get rid of all those ads.
redban is the 'hole' of the JRE
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chrisbguitarvideos you must be happy that its now only Joe and Young Jamie
Redban was so fucking annoying back in day. He'd interject with non-sequiturs and stupid points frequently.. jre is so much better these days
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....."where are we gonna put the cereal?!?!?!?!"
I need to see the video of them arguing
Naruto Can Kill Goku
Joe rogan experience number 91 :p
Its like two and a half hours in, the comments will tell you
Is Bill's argument 'that's what the law says' or his least favorite argument for divorce settlements.
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Larry149 IF you listen he actually talks a lot about how its morally wrong to take someones intellectual property and make money off of it without their consent. That seemed like the main point of his argument to me.
lol. speaking of people who don't understand the law. the youtube comments.
Bob Butts
Congratulations on one of the best shut down retorts ever.
"I don't usually comment on you tube flame comments, but when I do it's Butts!"
Stay Thirsty My friend
This is an odd situation because there are several UA-cam channels that have his content and they throw up an advertisement during the playback.. will he go after UA-cam because they play back his free content with an advertisement?
Ill add this, though its likely been added before, the website definitely provides a service by making all podcasts available on the same page.
Bill Burr for President!
The music industry now is leveling out to the times before CDs. This is because of piracy, it's a good method of calling out those artists who make 1 good song and 9 bad songs and sell millions of albums.
For the most part we are not bad, people want to pay for music but only the good music. Now that we have iTunes people can pay for that one good song and forget about those other pieces of garbage. This is similar to people buying a single on a record in the 60's.
The music industry from before was inflating itself too much and it needed to be popped, it was a terrible business practice that did not support good music.
Daniel Beddingfield
But the way the industry was doing it before was false. The enormous heights it reached before was just inflation.
It does not matter if the reason people buy music is so they won't feel guilty, they still want to give money. The music industry is the one who took advantage of them.
Lol another O' Brian moments!!!
There is a value added with the convenience of having all of these podcasts in one place, but you're right that the profits from advertising should be shared with the artists.
IP laws are bullshit. Copying is not stealing. You still have your podcast. You haven't _lost_ anything. If I steal your car or your money, you don't have it anymore.
***** I've been selling this comment on a t shirt for the last couple of weeks, thanks.
I completely agree with Bill Burr
Steve Taylor, talking to people who work at Cinnabon, telling them they have a great voice. Gold.
This video has an ad.
Irony at its finest.
2015 and Brian was RIGHT. Even this clip IS NOT hosted by Bill Burr.
Your missing the point completely. a site stole bills material without contacting him to profit of his work. If Bill decides to give his material away for free then that's upto Bill.
+mike howarth From listening to him, sounds like he never licensed it - and if not people can use it how they like basically.
Coming on to the internet and demanding people respect your material while ignoring the rules and laws of online information just won't work.
There is very basic licensing for people who want to regulate their work.
***** I can't keep arguing against this. You can't steal someone's intellectual property and make money of ov it. its fucking illegal. If they didn't make money it would be legal...
mike howarth If its licensed, then of course. If I put my music up online and don't license it, and someone uses it for profit, there is not too much I can do. I can contact and tell them to stop, and generally they will - however they have no legal obligation, but rather and obligation of good will.
Besides whether you agree or not, the law is the law. I see where he is coming from and it sucks people can just take stuff and do that, however thats why licensing exists. Its free and easy to do.
Lmao you still don't get it do you. You can't legally steal someones intellectual property and profit from it without agreeing with the artist. HIs property can be used of fans but not to make profit. He can sue them companies for plagerism... anyway I'm done here. Go argue with a lawyer,
Oh my... That was my first time i heard Brian Redban and to this day i think he's some kind of a ... let's say "Low Intellect" person. and Bill's right , It was the stupidest argument EVER!
Where can I find the argument?
Lmfao, JAMIE PULL THAT UP!! LOL
The irony of this being posted on a UA-cam channel that isn't run by Burr is thick.
It's not monotized though. That's his whole point.
Where the hell is Bill getting good coconut water? I tried it once cause I love coconut and it tasted fucking horrible.
i bought some coconut water and tried to mix it in my coffee, tasted like fucking battery acid that someone pissed out. it's actually fucking disgusting.
Try Vita Coco with pineapple....I love that shit.
EdEmKay The fact someone would know what battery acid pissed out of someone's dirty schlong taste like... well, it scares me a little! ;-))
Philly Blunt I hear it contains all 4 basic food groups, plus a flavour of despair.
Mmmmmm....despair.
His lawyer went to law school, thats crazy.
李岱文 not all lawyers go to law school
Anyone have a link to that arguement podcast?
Somehow i'm finding it hard to feel sorry for steven tyler and the guy from maroon 5.. or even bill burr
Who's asking you to?
why, do you think having loads of money would somehow help you choose a better profile pic? It wouldn't.
+Jai D :,(
Griffter aw man, now I feel bad! Lol I was just fucking with you man, I can't even really see your pic. Although, you are male and it is a selfie, so there's that! 😜
Jai D lol
Bill, you're wrong. The business model for the music industry hasn't been "destroyed" it's been changed, sure... But it's doin JUST FINE. When you can get millions of people to pay a dollar for a song, thats quite literally millions of dollars. Recording artists, like Steven Tyler in your example, aren't making music because the industry is destroyed, he isn't making music because he's FUCKING OLD AND CAN'T PERFORM ANY MORE. But look at the modern music artists. They're BILLIONAIRES because you can buy their stuff online. A dollar at a time.
Sure, online piracy is a thing. But so is iTunes. They made musical convenience as easy as piracy to combat it. When you can pay a dollar and download a song, almost as easy as you could by pirating it you've got yourself a stable business model.
So, when people say "You don't get the internet"... They might be right. I don't think you do. You have this curmudgeonly-old-man attitude about it.
its actually fuking destroyed you have no idea, my mom is a musician i know lots of them and the artist made more money with albums, now its harder they have to play more live!
and musicians are not billionaires ok the ones u see on tv are...they represent a percentage sooooo low i cant even find the number to tell you, and the music bussiness model is crap
Gustavo Martins my mom works for nintendo
real musicians need the record sales+the live stuff thats how they pay the label, and no one is making millions thoose are just a small percentage its like saying in the middle ages there where lots of kings and every one was a billionare
Gustavo Martins You can make an album and sell it through iTunes or Amazon, without the entire involvement of the label. Yeah you don't have their huge marketing machine, but you're also not their slave for X number of albums or years. If the music is good, the audience will be there.
And now there are dozens of UA-cam channels ripping off the podcast taking clips and running ads on them.
This video had an ad at the beginning lol
I see where Bill is coming from and I agree he should take his stuff off sticher if he wants, but am I the only one who sees Redban's side? Isn't it like saying that Sony or Pioneer should have to pay money to somone when you put a CD in their player? Weren't RSS feeds, like Bill's, specifically made so applications can deliver them via their program?
I can understand it hurting your iTunes numbers but isn't it the same as offering a direct download from your website? I don't use iTunes or stitcher I get my podcasts from the websites.
Btw, please don't think I'm hating on Bill Burr in any way. He's a terrific comedian!
the site that took his stuff usually does give the artist a cut, but they didn't until Bill found out n took it down himself. Then afterward they tried to get it back by offering him a percentage. You're technically allowed to do what they did, his problem was the ethical n moral standpoint of the whole ordeal.
I completely agree with what you are saying Oliver Stolcke. I guess I just feel like Redban was catching a lot of crap for his view and wanted to say that I see his side too.
You are right but the big issue is the legality. Bill clearly states that his lawyer told him that what they were doing was illegal.
It is not stealing, it is sharing files. The same as if I have a book and give it to a friend it is not theft, though it might balance on the edge of copyright infringement, though many states do not see it that way.
If I buy a Metalica album and then put the files online for other people to download, they are merely sharing a product I bought, like the above analogy, if I buy a book and give it to my mate that is not theft, if I give my little brother my trainers I am not stealing and neither is he, I am sharing something.
The difference is... If you gave your friend a book, you no longer have that book. If you share a file, you still have the file and so does the other person. Everybody does it, at least be honest when you steal something.
You clearly aren't creative though. Because if you wrote an album and put it up for sale, then received nothing for it, but everybody had a copy, you'd soon change your views. Nerd.
scoonboon Do you really think that people who "steal" music from a site, never buy the actual album? Downloading music from the internet for most people (me included), is to see if the album is any good before they go out and buy the actual thing. And the people who don't give a flying fuck about the actual music, wouldn't buy those albums even if there wasn't a way to get them for free. You know, the music business never was intended to be a gold mine that some genres these days are, and that my friend has obscured your view about these things. I bet you would do the same thing with food if it was possible. You would go to a store and try everything to see if they are any good, and after that you would actually buy them.
***** For some bands yes, it might have been a goldmine, but I wasn't talking about that kind of music (i.e. pop music). And how is it a loss of one album if I first download it and then buy it? Should I buy two of the same albums then?? Actually you don't hear the music some people might want from the radio. Because radio stations these days play the same mainstream bullshit that almost everyone wants to listen to, for some fucked up reason I will never understand.
***** The vast majority of music I listen to is not played on any radio station around here. That said iTunes has vastly changed the way music is purchased. Go look at any album for sale on there, you'll see popularity ratings. That represents purchases.
For every album you see that has a high popularity rating across all their songs, you'll see a thousand albums where only one song has any attention and the rest are largely ignored. So now you have albums out there that people actually have a legal choice on what songs they want from them.
But it's like Phil Spector said when he was talking about Albums being pointless, and why he always preferred EPs. You get an album with one or two gems and then 10 filler tracks. Or you have an EP with the choice cuts.
Also look at services like Spotify and now Amazon Prime's music. Where you're not buying the album you're buying a subscription.
Yes the music industry was a gold mine, so was the housing market, remember that? Over inflated and unsustainable. The industry has corrected itself.
i remember when i used to listen to rogans pod cast. this was one of the episodes that started the down fall of how much i could tolerate watching / listening because of that "male assistant"
lol i like how bill realizes that musicians still make boat loads of money.
Its 2018 almost 2019 and redban has been off the jre for a while now
Can anyone tell me when he was dropped
Which episode?
@MadBagOfHorses good point. i'll take a look
I miss this bill burr
Thanks mate!
Bill shouldn't take it too personal . I think that male assistant was just happy he could talk with Bill . :)))
the imfamous burr stitcher argument
"I called my lawyer who went to law school" you fucking hope he did.
What was the name of the coconut water?
From stitcher to spotify.....I think joe took that conversation to heart
wow here i was wondering why Monday Morning wasnt findable on Stitcher
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