@@teresaamanfu7408 since the critic think that the Earth is actually flat from the Bible, which is pretty embarrassing mind blowing to me how hard it was for him to comprehend figurative language. It seemed very perplexing to him and it makes you reconsider that this person‘s reliability this guy just seems like he tries to find surface level contradictions, which is one of the most scummiest things to do on service level. It might look like contradiction. It just takes a little. intellect to make the claim and it takes a little bit more to refute it aka both are just big donuts 🍩
@@teresaamanfu7408 intern I am very disappointed with the person trying to defend the faith. This guy knew nothing, and for some reason, always tried to deflect the question and made absurd statements to justify whatever he tried to justify this also made Christianity look bad and he dishonored Christianity, but truly, how ignorant and stupid is he that thought he could debate someone as scummy as him
Justin, you're on fire with this guy who persistently tries to dodge, avert and pivot. You well and truly skewered him and all he can do is wriggle on the skewer and there is no escape. Strung up and hung out to dry by the words in his own book. A masterly performance Justin. Keep up the good work exposing these brainwashed idiots.
His nervous laughter is pathetic too, also trying to flip things and assert Justin is somehow dodging or angry at his fake god, despite the fact Justin has completely eviscerated the nonsense.
“The consent of women is very important” “The bible says a widow shall be forced to marry the brother of her husband, she doesn’t have the choice to marry anyone else, is that good?” “Yes” “Should a woman be forced to marry her grapist?” “Yes” …. I detect some inconsistency bro
It's chilling that people can think like this. Dude is terrified of giving an opinion in case it goes against scripture. He should be embarrassed yet I'd suspect he isn't.
Urgh. Calvinists. If reality is in conflict with scripture, we have to question reality. Just because it says that, it doesn't mean that's what it says.
Grew up the son of a Calvinist / Christian Reformed pastor. Went to YCF conventions and everything. Calvinism is incredibly dangerous and has snuck it's way into other US Christian theologies. IMO Calvinism is one of the main drivers of the evangelical insanity we're witnessing now.
@@Deconstruction_Zone I’m not saying that some Christians haven’t used the doctrine of predestination to justify things like manifest destiny and slavery, and I’m certainly not saying that I believe the doctrine or think that it is true, because I am an atheist; but the Calvinist doctrine of predestination does not say that Christians know who is saved and who is damned, nor does it justify Christians mistreating the damned. Knowledge of who is saved and who is damned, and action based on that knowledge, is God’s and at most an individual believer’s assurance of their own salvation. There is plenty that is wrong in Christianity and in Calvinism, and there are plenty of things that people have claimed are justified or excused by Christianity and Calvinism, but the doctrine of predestination doesn’t actually justify manifest destiny and slavery.
I feel so embarrassed for this caller. I've never seen someone try so hard to avoid rational conclusions. The conclusion is plainly in front of him and he just goes, "well is it in the Bible?" Try thinking for yourself!
This in all hurts the reliability of this critic aka "HE IS NOT HIM". this guy is not deconstructing anything he needs to learn what figurative languages is. I truly wonder if he went to school since this part of scripture seems very perplexing to him
This guy's mindset is truly frightening. He's willing to twist himself into ever more absurd logic pretzels to avoid having to face the abhorrent BS in the Bible.
This man is truly dangerous. He stated (25:55) that he thinks all babies should have rocks thrown at them until they die. This would be considered psychotic in any realm except religion.
My parents were calvinists, but I was brought up rather moderate in respect of religion. At young age I discovered that the Bible is controversial and full of BS later I refused to go to sunday school, had several discussion with the elder teaching the Bible and I decided to be non religious. Later I even went to a catholic technical school because it was reputable, convenient and nearby. The catholics around me accepted me being a "heathen" and viceversa. I attended religion hours but did not pray. Now I have a marriage like relationship with a catholic woman and she is a very good and sweet person. I fully accept her catholic religion and she accepts my atheism. No religion stress whatsoever. 😮
1:32 Off to a great start. Admitting your belief is fundamentally the same as Santa but yours is better cuz you fell for it. This does not uh, as they say, BODE WELL for your argument good sir. There's basically nothing you can say to a person like this that doesn't understand what my 9 year old nephew has already figured out.
Seems Tim does NOT know or want to understand the concept of "objective moral values". Do they even hear the point that *objectively* means "including gawd" (substantiated by Genesis 3:22 !!!) Not sure if, when beLIEvers agree to a definition in the discussion, it would be cool to have a moderator replay that part of the discussion where they have overtly agreed ... because one can literally hear the "screeching of tires" as they pivot 180 decrease and cry out..."That's not what I said !!" later on. (smacking my head). Religious faith, at its core, is beLIEving. A-phuccing-men.
Theists are told what to say and how to think while Atheists think for ourselves. The problem arises in situations like this video is theists parrot what they've been told and are confused when it never works.
Having to deny reality so much demonstrates that his god thing cannot exist outside of his imagination. He just cannot work the simplest things out, if what he believes is true!
Should Calvinists be called Paulists since their theology comes from Calvin’s interpretation of Paul’s uniquely invented version/evolution of Christianity?
My goodness, it is just so sickening and frustrating to hear, the amount of cognitive dissonance and doublethink pivoting, rationalizing, and changing of answer is astounding. This caller needs to stop simping for divine command theory and grow a backbone to think for himself and use his own morality, and stop surrendering and referring his morality up to a celestial dictatorship. He needs to wake up and stop judging the actions by the person doing them, and instead start judging the person by the actions they are doing. An action is not good or bad only if or based on who does them, the person is good or bad based on the actions they doing. Might does not make right, and something is not suddenly now beyond criticism just because a person with power has done it or commanded it. If you say that you've already morally bankrupted yourself and you shouldn't bother to claim you believe in objective morals, because you do not if you think different rules apply to god or someone with authority than to someone who is not god or has no authority--you just think a deity is above the law then and that you should do whatever God says but not as he does, which is anything but objective and is totalitarian to the core. Hence, it does not follow that slavery would be good because god allows it, instead god is evil because he condones slavery. God allowing something does not sanctify or make that action righteous or "godly", on the contrary if the action is already reprehensible and heinous to begin with, then it taints and stains the god for doing it or allowing it and shows that deity to be a monster who is reprehensible and heinous--it doesent matter if a God tells you you can own somebody, that doesn't make slavery good, that shows your god to be piece of sh*t if you will as Dillahunty would say. Thus endeth the lesson. This is why I could no longer be a Christian, because I refused to sacrifice my humanity and empathy on the altar on a religion that endorses such atrocious chauvinisms, I care more about people than about doctrines or dogmas.
It's insane how many logical fallacies Christians rely on. Special pleading, begging the question, and post hoc ergo proper hoc made an appearance in this call.
_"How do you think we got here?"_ What's wrong with: "Since nobody knows, who can prove their claim with objectively demonstrable, independently verifiable, consistently testable, repeatable on demand, measurable and falsifiable credible professional scientific evidence, neither do I know. If that's a problem for you, then throw down." 🤷
This one was really hard to listen to. I don't think he believes half of what he said but you got him so over a barrel that he had to say the most outrageous nonsense.
I have a question…. If Jesus lied (which the Bible says he did a few times), and the punishment for all liars according to the Bible in revelations is to go to hell, Jesus would be in hell, right?
All scripture is god breathed! He never demonstrates that claim is true. In the same way, nobody has ever demonstrated that the Christian god thing ever existed in the way that all mountains demonstrably exist!
He was almost there. If the caller understands what objective morals are but god can do things morally that we should not do, then where are these other objective morals coming from? What is holding god to those standards?
How can we choose to repent and also be predestined to do so? Calvinism seems to take so many different stances on free will at once, and these guys just think that they dont have to be logically consistent because God is more powerful than consistency?
Apologetics 101 Give every answer and stick to the one that apparently goes the furthest. Ignore all the ones that fail, and why they fail. Attempt to reuse the failed answers the next time round, because you never know...
Listen Chad, we’ll try this again: if your god doesn’t condone slavery, WHY DID HE GIVE GUIDELINES, instead of a prohibition? Good Doug, you people are insufferable. Justin, I had to go back and listen to this again because this dude is a stupid Calvinist of a very particular variety: he KNOWS his god is awful and seems really proud of that fact. I came from this faith tradition and I hated myself for it the entire time.
For all of the THOU SHALT NOT’s in your Bible, you would think he could have added one that would actually mitigate harm, like oh I dunno, DON’T OWN SLAVES.
@ people commonly use 2tim 3:16 as a way to say the Bible is infallible. But this text was written mainly about the Hebrew texts that were circulating at the time, whether currently canon or not. The Bible (any version) was not in existence at the time of this writing. “God breathed” sounds specifically like “every word of the Bible is from God and has purpose”, especially when reading the verse in full. But from my understanding, this is the same wording as anything God has created with the breath of life. It’s more general than how people currently try to apply it. Of course I am no scholar and more than happy to change my opinion.
I was 9 when my dad died in an accident, (and my dog was shot, and my favorite aunt died a week later), I was inundated with lots of "god talk'. It was February of 1980, and in the grieving weeks after, I had retreated to my room, in a youngsters angry depression. I had just found out about Santa a little over a year before, and that thought just jumped into my head (after watching the Irish comedian Dave Allen) that religion was just Santa for grown ups. "God sees all" and "He knows when you've been sleeping" sealed it for me.
@nollattacykel but, he isn't. He's resolute in his position. And even though he sees that the other guy is more versed, he believes the little he knows is the correct way. Lol and you guys and your cooking! Is that the hot word of the month ? 🙄
I'm always amazed by calvinists. Somehow they always seem to be the most honest about what the Bible says while also being some of the most disingenuous liars about it.
Tim very clearly worships at the altar of his own ego - how else can someone NEVER be wrong like Tim (at least that’s Tim’s perspective - he got stomped but somehow thinks he came out on top)
This was unbelievably believable, I wish Justin had said when the caller admitted it was wrong on his world view compared to his god that he was morally superior to his own god (which is not difficult or complimentary) 😂
There is a higher power but it’s not gonna be demonstrated in the way you demand. Experience, suffering, loss, heartbreak, heartache and all the things we have to endure in this life will humble you to the point where your reasoning and logic alone will not provide any comfort. Logic alone and a sense of superiority is the enemy of humility. There is great character development in believing and trusting. You’re trying to erase these qualities by relying on logic alone. Good luck 🍀
look guys! this silly goose bites the bullet on things we have moral intuitions about! and, therefore....what follows exactly? granted this Calvinist is a terrible interlocutor/debater/reasoner, but what do these gotcha's actually accomplish in terms of proving true the declarative statement that no Gods exist (or even that Christianity is false for that matter)
Have you ever considered, for a moment, that you could be wrong? Consider it. Really really consider it. Guess what, you are wrong, without a shadow of a doubt. There is no god, there never has been. You no longer need to consider it, and the truth has set you free.
@@WhoThisMonkey 18:00 and you really think this guy makes me think that my religion is false a guy that didn’t go to school and that does not comprehend figurative language. This guy is a total joke. He just looks at scripture and tries to get a surface contradiction this guy is a liar. He twist the scripture. This guy really thinks the Earth is flat from the Bible. This is truly embarrassing. I’m sure he has other claims of the Bible that on surface level looks like a contradiction but they are not. 😂
Planet Peterson has this issue all the time too. I believe morals are objective. What about God? He doesn't need to follow them. Religion literally makes it so you can't understand simple contradictions. This guy also literally cannot think for himself, which is super scary.
The caller's cognitive dissonance is astounding.
He has locked himself into this god belief and is tying himself up into apologetic knots. So very dishonest.
@@teresaamanfu7408 respectively, both people in this video are total idiots
@@teresaamanfu7408 since the critic think that the Earth is actually flat from the Bible, which is pretty embarrassing mind blowing to me how hard it was for him to comprehend figurative language. It seemed very perplexing to him and it makes you reconsider that this person‘s reliability this guy just seems like he tries to find surface level contradictions, which is one of the most scummiest things to do on service level. It might look like contradiction. It just takes a little. intellect to make the claim and it takes a little bit more to refute it aka both are just big donuts 🍩
@@teresaamanfu7408 intern I am very disappointed with the person trying to defend the faith. This guy knew nothing, and for some reason, always tried to deflect the question and made absurd statements to justify whatever he tried to justify this also made Christianity look bad and he dishonored Christianity, but truly, how ignorant and stupid is he that thought he could debate someone as scummy as him
"Insane Calvinist"? Isn't that a bit redundant?
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Comment of the year.😂
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I don’t see Calvinists as insane, I see them as evil as they gladly worship an evil god.
Justin, you're on fire with this guy who persistently tries to dodge, avert and pivot. You well and truly skewered him and all he can do is wriggle on the skewer and there is no escape. Strung up and hung out to dry by the words in his own book. A masterly performance Justin. Keep up the good work exposing these brainwashed idiots.
Thank you🫶🫶🫶
His nervous laughter is pathetic too, also trying to flip things and assert Justin is somehow dodging or angry at his fake god, despite the fact Justin has completely eviscerated the nonsense.
“The consent of women is very important”
“The bible says a widow shall be forced to marry the brother of her husband, she doesn’t have the choice to marry anyone else, is that good?”
“Yes”
“Should a woman be forced to marry her grapist?”
“Yes”
….
I detect some inconsistency bro
Christians are a clear and present danger to the world
Consent is a modern invention and cannot be retroactively applied to the Bible.
@@IkarusKommt Didn't god know that consent was going to be "invented"?
It's chilling that people can think like this. Dude is terrified of giving an opinion in case it goes against scripture. He should be embarrassed yet I'd suspect he isn't.
He has replaced his brain with scripture. And he's proud of this vacuous abdication.
Does the caller honestly think that he is winning the argument? That's hilarious.
It's scary when people condone awful things in the name of their supposed god.
Urgh. Calvinists. If reality is in conflict with scripture, we have to question reality. Just because it says that, it doesn't mean that's what it says.
Grew up the son of a Calvinist / Christian Reformed pastor. Went to YCF conventions and everything. Calvinism is incredibly dangerous and has snuck it's way into other US Christian theologies. IMO Calvinism is one of the main drivers of the evangelical insanity we're witnessing now.
Yup. It's the best way to justify manifest destiny and slavery. It was all predestined. They are clearly the vessels of wrath.
You're 100% right, Christian Reconstructionism comes out of it and is a major influence on would-be theocrats in the US today.
@@Deconstruction_Zone I’m not saying that some Christians haven’t used the doctrine of predestination to justify things like manifest destiny and slavery, and I’m certainly not saying that I believe the doctrine or think that it is true, because I am an atheist; but the Calvinist doctrine of predestination does not say that Christians know who is saved and who is damned, nor does it justify Christians mistreating the damned. Knowledge of who is saved and who is damned, and action based on that knowledge, is God’s and at most an individual believer’s assurance of their own salvation. There is plenty that is wrong in Christianity and in Calvinism, and there are plenty of things that people have claimed are justified or excused by Christianity and Calvinism, but the doctrine of predestination doesn’t actually justify manifest destiny and slavery.
I feel so embarrassed for this caller. I've never seen someone try so hard to avoid rational conclusions. The conclusion is plainly in front of him and he just goes, "well is it in the Bible?" Try thinking for yourself!
Rule #1 of Christianity...... Check your brain at the door
19:00 it’s truly embarrassing. Someone not comprehending figurative language as well. 😂😂😂😂🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩
18:00 this caller is so incorrigible. This is painful to witness how he thinks.
It gets more embarrassing for the critic since he did not go to school and does not understand figurative language😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
19:00 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Anthropomorphic Language: dome and flat earth phenomenological language.
This in all hurts the reliability of this critic aka "HE IS NOT HIM". this guy is not deconstructing anything he needs to learn what figurative languages is. I truly wonder if he went to school since this part of scripture seems very perplexing to him
@@Fjdhd-vz2lh you should quit whole you're already behind, or Doug will strike you down for blaspheming him.
This guy's mindset is truly frightening. He's willing to twist himself into ever more absurd logic pretzels to avoid having to face the abhorrent BS in the Bible.
Logic works one way only.
It's either logical or illogical.
There's no such thing as bad or good logic.
This man is truly dangerous. He stated (25:55) that he thinks all babies should have rocks thrown at them until they die. This would be considered psychotic in any realm except religion.
Homie got absolutely cooked!! 😂😂
this person hurt my brain, they didnt understand what objective meant at all.
My parents were calvinists, but I was brought up rather moderate in respect of religion. At young age I discovered that the Bible is controversial and full of BS later I refused to go to sunday school, had several discussion with the elder teaching the Bible and I decided to be non religious. Later I even went to a catholic technical school because it was reputable, convenient and nearby. The catholics around me accepted me being a "heathen" and viceversa. I attended religion hours but did not pray.
Now I have a marriage like relationship with a catholic woman and she is a very good and sweet person. I fully accept her catholic religion and she accepts my atheism.
No religion stress whatsoever. 😮
1:50 if you made it this far, just know it gets worse and called is painful to listen to.
More contortions in this theists arguments than you’d find in a Cirque Du Soleil show.
1:32 Off to a great start. Admitting your belief is fundamentally the same as Santa but yours is better cuz you fell for it. This does not uh, as they say, BODE WELL for your argument good sir. There's basically nothing you can say to a person like this that doesn't understand what my 9 year old nephew has already figured out.
The hard cope is too much. This guy. I wanna cry for humanity.
Seems Tim does NOT know or want to understand the concept of "objective moral values". Do they even hear the point that *objectively* means "including gawd" (substantiated by Genesis 3:22 !!!)
Not sure if, when beLIEvers agree to a definition in the discussion, it would be cool to have a moderator replay that part of the discussion where they have overtly agreed ... because one can literally hear the "screeching of tires" as they pivot 180 decrease and cry out..."That's not what I said !!" later on. (smacking my head).
Religious faith, at its core, is beLIEving. A-phuccing-men.
Perfection. You were a discourse squeegee for his slippery bs.
It's always amazing to see just how twisted the mind can get when believing in Christianity.
This Christian's mind is so twisted that he admitted he believes all children deserve be stoned to death. (25:55)
This guys special pleading is insufferable
I was dying the first minute!😂
Theists are told what to say and how to think while Atheists think for ourselves. The problem arises in situations like this video is theists parrot what they've been told and are confused when it never works.
Atheism doesn't have a capital a, it's a description not a title. 👍🏼
Having to deny reality so much demonstrates that his god thing cannot exist outside of his imagination. He just cannot work the simplest things out, if what he believes is true!
Should Calvinists be called Paulists since their theology comes from Calvin’s interpretation of Paul’s uniquely invented version/evolution of Christianity?
“Calvinist” already implies that they follow Calvin, not Christ. Not true Christians: for sure they are going to hell. ;)
Next time they pull this “all scripture” crap you might ask “which scripture “ since Christians don’t agree on what scripture is!!!!😂😂😂😂
Thousands of different types of Christianity.
You'd think this would tell them something... 🌬️🤤🍃
Seems to me that this christian's problem is grasping simple concepts.
arrogance in ignorance or arrogance in ego? this younger guy most likely suffers from both situations.
Theists are so gullible. U can write whatever u want in their fairy tale book and they will believe
You don’t even have to have it in the bible. Just have your preacher, Sunday school teacher, etc. say it.
It's probably less than 1% of Christians that have ever read the Bible.
@@Tracie7745Hey thats right 😂
There is no crime that his god can commit that he would object to and he's so self satisfied and he creeps me out ...
How do people like this function in society? Almost everything he says is utterly abhorrent and contrary to human decency.
Jesus Christ in response to this caller: JESUS CHRIST. OH. MY. ME. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE.
Santa Clause 1:0 Jesus Christ
Painful to listen to
The smug laughter was especially grating.
My goodness, it is just so sickening and frustrating to hear, the amount of cognitive dissonance and doublethink pivoting, rationalizing, and changing of answer is astounding. This caller needs to stop simping for divine command theory and grow a backbone to think for himself and use his own morality, and stop surrendering and referring his morality up to a celestial dictatorship. He needs to wake up and stop judging the actions by the person doing them, and instead start judging the person by the actions they are doing. An action is not good or bad only if or based on who does them, the person is good or bad based on the actions they doing. Might does not make right, and something is not suddenly now beyond criticism just because a person with power has done it or commanded it. If you say that you've already morally bankrupted yourself and you shouldn't bother to claim you believe in objective morals, because you do not if you think different rules apply to god or someone with authority than to someone who is not god or has no authority--you just think a deity is above the law then and that you should do whatever God says but not as he does, which is anything but objective and is totalitarian to the core.
Hence, it does not follow that slavery would be good because god allows it, instead god is evil because he condones slavery. God allowing something does not sanctify or make that action righteous or "godly", on the contrary if the action is already reprehensible and heinous to begin with, then it taints and stains the god for doing it or allowing it and shows that deity to be a monster who is reprehensible and heinous--it doesent matter if a God tells you you can own somebody, that doesn't make slavery good, that shows your god to be piece of sh*t if you will as Dillahunty would say. Thus endeth the lesson. This is why I could no longer be a Christian, because I refused to sacrifice my humanity and empathy on the altar on a religion that endorses such atrocious chauvinisms, I care more about people than about doctrines or dogmas.
It's insane how many logical fallacies Christians rely on.
Special pleading, begging the question, and post hoc ergo proper hoc made an appearance in this call.
_"How do you think we got here?"_
What's wrong with: "Since nobody knows, who can prove their claim with objectively demonstrable, independently verifiable, consistently testable, repeatable on demand, measurable and falsifiable credible professional scientific evidence, neither do I know. If that's a problem for you, then throw down." 🤷
This one was really hard to listen to. I don't think he believes half of what he said but you got him so over a barrel that he had to say the most outrageous nonsense.
I love how they act like all of the sudden can’t understand anything.
Just enjoying the irony of listening to this entire thing on Xmas day. Long live Doug.
One more question….
If bad things happen on earth bc of free will, do bad things happen in heaven or is there no free will there?
- insert special pleading -
- run away claiming victory -
There has been a war in heaven.. not sure if that answers your question.
I have a question….
If Jesus lied (which the Bible says he did a few times), and the punishment for all liars according to the Bible in revelations is to go to hell, Jesus would be in hell, right?
He goes down in winter to warm himself up at the eternal fire. 😄
Jesus is also god so he technically killed himself; Jesus being a cardinal sinner, a sacrifice of nothing at all.
All scripture is god breathed! He never demonstrates that claim is true. In the same way, nobody has ever demonstrated that the Christian god thing ever existed in the way that all mountains demonstrably exist!
He was almost there. If the caller understands what objective morals are but god can do things morally that we should not do, then where are these other objective morals coming from? What is holding god to those standards?
He was never almost there his head is so far up gods invisible ass
I agree, except that he was almost there. I think he is about 7,453 steps away from "there". Lol. Absolutely dishonest and clueless.
It's not surprising he keeps asking "does the scripture say that" because they don't use their brain from the get go
Are you ok??
He was never " almost" there.
How can we choose to repent and also be predestined to do so?
Calvinism seems to take so many different stances on free will at once, and these guys just think that they dont have to be logically consistent because God is more powerful than consistency?
Apologetics 101
Give every answer and stick to the one that apparently goes the furthest.
Ignore all the ones that fail, and why they fail.
Attempt to reuse the failed answers the next time round, because you never know...
Listen Chad, we’ll try this again: if your god doesn’t condone slavery, WHY DID HE GIVE GUIDELINES, instead of a prohibition? Good Doug, you people are insufferable.
Justin, I had to go back and listen to this again because this dude is a stupid Calvinist of a very particular variety: he KNOWS his god is awful and seems really proud of that fact. I came from this faith tradition and I hated myself for it the entire time.
For all of the THOU SHALT NOT’s in your Bible, you would think he could have added one that would actually mitigate harm, like oh I dunno, DON’T OWN SLAVES.
Reminds me of Shane from AXP episode 795.
Egypt "revising its history is right out of Cecil's 10 Commandment! "Let his name be stricken..."
18:26
Why does the caller laugh?
Does he think Justin thinks the earth is flat?
Or does he think the words don't mean what they mean?
Words never mean words 😆
Everyone knows 2tim 3:16. Everyone SHOULD know this isn’t talking about their Bible being absolutely correct
What does that mean?
@ people commonly use 2tim 3:16 as a way to say the Bible is infallible. But this text was written mainly about the Hebrew texts that were circulating at the time, whether currently canon or not. The Bible (any version) was not in existence at the time of this writing. “God breathed” sounds specifically like “every word of the Bible is from God and has purpose”, especially when reading the verse in full. But from my understanding, this is the same wording as anything God has created with the breath of life. It’s more general than how people currently try to apply it. Of course I am no scholar and more than happy to change my opinion.
Justin , you have the patience of a saint...
Are saints even patient?
If he thinks all of scripture is true,does he think that bats are birds?
"Show me evidence that the bible is reliable."
_[quotes bible verse about the bible being reliable]_
I was 9 when my dad died in an accident, (and my dog was shot, and my favorite aunt died a week later), I was inundated with lots of "god talk'. It was February of 1980, and in the grieving weeks after, I had retreated to my room, in a youngsters angry depression. I had just found out about Santa a little over a year before, and that thought just jumped into my head (after watching the Irish comedian Dave Allen) that religion was just Santa for grown ups. "God sees all" and "He knows when you've been sleeping" sealed it for me.
I'm sorry that happened to you, but at least you figured it out early in life, unlike these poor sods.
This old covenant new covenant bs is hysterical. If it's objectively moral it's the same no matter what time of year it is. Lol
His laughs show how embarrassed he should be.
No. Sometimes that is the case.
Listen properly, that is not is what is happening here.
@TEMUJINARTS I listened carefully, and this fella got cooked over and over on his own book. He certainly should be embarrassed.
@@TEMUJINARTShow do you know?
@nollattacykel but, he isn't. He's resolute in his position. And even though he sees that the other guy is more versed, he believes the little he knows is the correct way.
Lol and you guys and your cooking! Is that the hot word of the month ? 🙄
@TEMUJINARTS Yeah loser, cooked is what the cool kids are saying.
He has a fake sarcastic giggling when he feels cornered.
Both St. Nicolas and Jesus have a connection to the same religious system. Like St. Nicolas, Jesus may be similarly mythologized.
Guy’s an obvious troll. He knew he had no argument but didn’t care
How frustrating. This caller isn’t serious or interested in truth.
I'm always amazed by calvinists. Somehow they always seem to be the most honest about what the Bible says while also being some of the most disingenuous liars about it.
Sickest theology ever dreamed up
Tim very clearly worships at the altar of his own ego - how else can someone NEVER be wrong like Tim (at least that’s Tim’s perspective - he got stomped but somehow thinks he came out on top)
This was unbelievably believable, I wish Justin had said when the caller admitted it was wrong on his world view compared to his god that he was morally superior to his own god (which is not difficult or complimentary) 😂
There is a higher power but it’s not gonna be demonstrated in the way you demand. Experience, suffering, loss, heartbreak, heartache and all the things we have to endure in this life will humble you to the point where your reasoning and logic alone will not provide any comfort. Logic alone and a sense of superiority is the enemy of humility. There is great character development in believing and trusting. You’re trying to erase these qualities by relying on logic alone. Good luck 🍀
God- breathed..? Bible language. Weird
This guy laughs at the Babylonian mythos, missing the point that his mythos is just as reliable/silly as the former.
We need god logic and Sam in here
'God logic' is contradictory
look guys! this silly goose bites the bullet on things we have moral intuitions about! and, therefore....what follows exactly? granted this Calvinist is a terrible interlocutor/debater/reasoner, but what do these gotcha's actually accomplish in terms of proving true the declarative statement that no Gods exist (or even that Christianity is false for that matter)
I’m assuming you were once a believer??… I think I said this on another video but I would love to see you talk to Wes Huff.
What convinced you that Christianity is true and should it convince me too?
@ who said that I think it’s true?
Just documenting my 4th mute in your Livestream for calling you out on your bs 😭😭
lol
Have you ever considered, for a moment, that you could be wrong?
Consider it.
Really really consider it.
Guess what, you are wrong, without a shadow of a doubt.
There is no god, there never has been.
You no longer need to consider it, and the truth has set you free.
@WhoThisMonkey I'd say the same to you and this well devised echo chamber .. where dissenters are silenced and the ignorant are propped up as examples
Do you care if your beliefs are true? I do
@@WhoThisMonkey 18:00 and you really think this guy makes me think that my religion is false a guy that didn’t go to school and that does not comprehend figurative language. This guy is a total joke. He just looks at scripture and tries to get a surface contradiction this guy is a liar. He twist the scripture. This guy really thinks the Earth is flat from the Bible. This is truly embarrassing. I’m sure he has other claims of the Bible that on surface level looks like a contradiction but they are not. 😂
Planet Peterson has this issue all the time too. I believe morals are objective. What about God? He doesn't need to follow them. Religion literally makes it so you can't understand simple contradictions.
This guy also literally cannot think for himself, which is super scary.
I APPROVE OF HIS MSG LETS GO MAGA
Your caps lock is stuck
This old covenant new covenant bs is hysterical. If it's objectively moral it's the same no matter what time of year it is. Lol
Yup!