Your videos are filling a void in the shotgun industry's communication with prospective customers, which I personally find very valuable. Through your ability to get (thank you Bywell!) examine, shoot, and compare the guns with the level of detail that you offer, we have credible and therefore valuable information that simply does not seem to be available elsewhere. Yes, there are others doing shotgun reviews, but I don't personally see anyone else in your league at the moment. Armed with some of the knowledge gained by your reviews I can approach the purchase of my next shotgun with the ability to make a much more informed and therefore better decision. Please keep up the good work!
Great review - also have a 682 Gold E but decided to buy a DT11 partially based on this review - awesome gun - great decision to buy one. Thanks for all the reviews.
I also have a 682 Gold E combo and I'm thinking about trading it in against a new DT-11. Could you elaborate about what you like about the DT-11 vs your 682?
Thank You Lloyd ! Excellent ..... I hate to disappoint you Remington Man, the DT-11 is made at the Due Factory Custom Shop. If you go there for a small fee you get can order it anyway you want ! The problem with Perazzi 's , is since Mr. Perazzi passed away, no one is checking custom order guns , and they leave the Factory not matching the order sheet from the customer's original order. I speak from experience, as this was the case with the last 4 I had ordered . Disgusted with this lack of care from Mauro Perazzi , they are now gone . I Love the Sporter DT -11 I now have and will never go back to a Perazzi !
Very Tall Birds yes that happened in the past when Bianca was there and that's why Mauro change her with new sales manger Mr Forti fabrizio and now every thing is working perfectly
I'm sorry Ali , but things are far from working perfectly ! I know more than 10 shooters in the last 24 months who Custom Ordered Perazzi's . None of them came as ordered !!! Bianca was not the problem . The problem is Mauro " Close Enough " Perazzi is the problem . This has been an on going problem for more than a few years ! He does not stand behind his product . That is why sales are falling world wide , and the price of used Perazzi's has come way down ......
Very Tall Birds this is surprising.. i orderd 7 perazzis for my friends and all of them come as ordered also my gun i received it last December 2016 also came as I ordered it .. i dont know what happened to your friends and i am very sorry to hear that
Lloyd, you should author a book, with reviews of many of the guns you have taken the excellent time to cover in your videos. Again, a super review on a superbly designed Beretta target crusher. Many of your videos have to be watched several times over, only because there is so much detail that you touch on as you describe the attributes of each gun, that one can miss, and owes themselves another viewing. I don't own a DT11, but they are obviously super guns. I do appreciate the removeable trigger systems, although they look a tad more difficult to replace a broken leaf spring than the Perazzi. Wonderful work my friend !! If you do author a book of gun reviews, I'll buy the first. Respectfully, Rob G., from Missouri, USA.
Muchas gracias por todas tus evaluaciones de la BERETTA DT11. Compré ahora en agosto una BERETTA DT11 XTRAP BFAST, estoy muy contento con ella, es un Formula 1!!! Saludos desde Buenos Aires, Argentina!!
Great review! I’ve watched almost all of your vids but have not seen a review of your K80. I shot a K80 skeet the other day and was very impressed. Cheers!
I have never actually reviewed my own K80 Supersport as yet. Honest reason, I am keeping it aside in case we have a week where I can't source a gun and I dont have anything to review. Same with my M2.
Great review as always Lloyd, I’d like to see a few clays breaking in your vids and a little info on chokes, std stock measurements etc. Keep up the good work 👍
Trigger is a big deal to me. Been fussing with Citori trigger that got completely replaced and it came back with a 5 lbs trigger pull and i have to shoot it until it hits 4.5 lbs But, i do try to shoot 750 shells a week.
What would you say were the Dt11 rivals? I'm looking to possibly upgrade next year, the Dt10 was my dream gun when I used to shoot at Bywell, I had a 682 gold e back then. Now a browning Gp after moving To Australia. I've been more in pistols here, its cheaper than clays. Its that rare time off life were the mortgage isn't too bad right now.
Mr. Pattison, thank you for doing these reviews. I find them very informative as well as entertaining, and your enthusiasm is contagious. May I ask if you had to choose between a DT11 and the Caesar Guerini Invictus, which would you prefer? Here in the US, I believe the DT11 is slightly more expensive.
Bloody hell that's a tough choice, the invictus is a hell of a lot of fun for the money, so if money were a factor I would choose the CG. If money were no object I think I would go for the DT11.
Thanks for the prompt response. I think I heard you mention in another video that you currently shoot a Krieghoff. I assume this is a K-80? Here in the US, the K-80 is slightly more expensive than the DT11. So, if you had to choose between the DT11 and the K-80, which would you choose?
Ha ha! yes I shoot a K80SS, and for me, I haven't found a gun yet I would swap if for. A couple have come close but the K80 is still my favourite. If I had all the money in the world to spend on guns, I would have a DT11, an F3, and a High Tech, AS WELL, but as I can only afford one gun, it's the Krieghoff.
This is funny......Looking for High end Skeet gun and happened on the DT11. Started looking into it and the price tag gave me chills. Then YT started posting DT videos in my list. Found one video where the guy was missing all over the place (video fades out to next station...miss). I'm shooting 22 and 23.....I fall apart @ station 8 lol....Then I started thinking $9K for 2 clay's....Then $9K for 18's (due to added stress) It takes nerves of steel and money to buy a high end gun. I have neither.....
You (and many others) are kinda thinking about this the wrong way. You aren't going to buy yourself any 25 straights by spending 10 large on a gun. Unless by spending that much it makes you want to shoot it more, and the practice makes you better. Get a gun that fits you and suits your style, but you need to spend a lot of time on the trigger to figure out what your style is, and to get good enough where you will get the benefit of a high end gun. Hope that makes sense to you.
Hi lloyd, I now it's a oldie, I've got a perazzi mx8 in mint condition, but considering the dt11 acs for its adjustability wot you think , I also shoot the a400 excell acs which I love
I see mx 8 and my 12 significantly more then dt11. Considering that I think beretta is better value. Blaser F3 is similarly priced but I have never seen one so I can't compare. My opinion please let me know what u guys think.
it entirely depends on the out of the box fit for you. You can learn to shoot anything, and the number of americans that shoot trap with stock pump guns certainly argues for shooting whatever you want. but as with all things it's a personal choice that you have to make based on how you shoot.
@@lloydyp Thank you for taking the time to respond. Here in Canada, clay shooting isn’t super popular, so even trying a gun before you buy is almost unheard of. Sad, considering the cost of higher end guns.
@@lloydyp Then if you had to have only one and without going wild on engraving DT11, Perazzi or Krieghof? I´m currently looking so any honest opinion would be appreciated
Je dirais qu'il y a beaucoup de débats sur ce sujet entre le K80, le DT11 et le MX8. Je ne pense pas qu'il y ait un meilleur fusil pour DTL, juste celui qui vous convient le mieux. Tous sont d'excellents fusils mais ont une sensation assez différente, vous devrez les essayer pour déterminer celui qui convient le mieux à votre style de tir.
Merci beaucoup pour le moment je tire avec un MX8 3/4 full et j’ai un MK38 chokes inter fosse en secours du coup je n’arrive pas à choisir Bon plus tard je pense à un K80 Merci bonne journée
They handle very similarly, I think the DT trigger is better but there isn't much in it. Personally I would go for the DT as I have tested nearly every model and they have all been great. I have only had a chance to play with 1 Invictus, and it was a while ago. They have released a new version that addresses the issues I mention in the Invictus review, but I haven't as yet had a chance to test the new one.
hi Lloyd. I'm shooting an f3 pro at the moment. I haven't quite found the sweet spot with it, and I'm interested in your opinion on dt11 black pro tsk. thanks. Brian Dillon
Bit if a marmite gun Brian. I liked it but it's not for everyone. There isn't a bad DT11 in fairness, but my question for you would be why GK balls out for the black pro, rather than a stock DT11 or DT11 black?
cheers lloyd, I might stick with the f3 for another while, and try a few other guns on the clay ground to see if anything catches my attention. what do you think is the sweetest handling gun from the first time it's picked up. thanks again.
For me? Lol my Perazzi. But I got on very well with my Krieghoff when I was shooting that too. Not everyone likes the weight and handling on a K80SS though.
You can change the cast at the comb be removing the comb , then moving the mounting posts left or right, then re mounting the comb. Does that answer your question?
@@ishratkhan5000 Im not going to say I have never seen a LH shooter shoot well with a RH gun, but, I think that might be too much to ask of an adjustable comb.
Mx12 or mx8 ?!!!! please can you change the leaf spring in the d11 trigger and change it in mx8 ? You can see how fast and easy with perazzi .. no comparison between custom hand made gun ( perazzi ) and commercial made Beretta .. Perazzi is better .
Yet the DT11 left Perazzi in the wind at the last Olympic Games. Guess the world's top shooters don't much care about "hand made" vs. "commercial". They're just there for the medals. Please don't pull the whole "marketing" thing from your butt either. BTW......I have no stake in neither gun, I shoot a K80. Also as stated above, the DT 11 IS made in Beretta's Custom Shop. Please review your info before you post.
MegaFrank1960 yes because they pay for the shooters to change from perazzi to Beretta like Giovanni pellielo , Jessica rossi and Kim Rhode etc .. they all win in Olympic with perazzi they choose it because they know what is the best .. but if I can take 1M dollars and a good custom DT11 why not to change 😁 now Mauro perazzi return to deal with that and you will see .. buy the way if perazzi brings you order with something wrong they can fix it but if your DT11 shoote low left in first barrel they will not care about you
MegaFrank1960 I don't say any thing without knowing what is it like you k80 guy I shoot with dt11 and dt11l and I have mx2000s and I went to perazzi factory and Beretta factory and I know exactly what I am talking about .... Beretta us layin in every thing .. ferst no dtt11 come from custom shop , the custom shop is only for SO5 and above and the biggest thing that any one don't know about shooting will see the dt11 with 5 Olympic medals won with perazzi shotgun 😁 that's how the thing work .. and buy the way show some respect here I don't bring any thing from my butt 😊
Ali , The DT-11's are made in the " Due Custom Shop " where the SO Guns are manufactured. You can order any style stock and many options on thie DT-11 . If you go to the factory they will make your stock , and you can test fire the gun at the factory. Just like Perazzi ...... Many people have problems with Custom ordered Perazzi's. Mauro does not fix his problems too often. He will tell you his famous line , when the order is not correct : Close Enough !
A guy at my club recently (in the last year) spent 25K for a Perazzi. It has now been back to Pacific 3 times, twice for the butt stock cracking, and once for the trigger assembly, you know, the custom one, not working properly, got it back and has been using someone else's Perazzi's trigger, because the "fixed" one has been giving him grief. At way less than a Perazzi, the DT11 Skeet is what I'm now looking at. And, it helps that the world's best shooters, the international guys, all seem to be using the DT11
Your videos are filling a void in the shotgun industry's communication with prospective customers, which I personally find very valuable. Through your ability to get (thank you Bywell!) examine, shoot, and compare the guns with the level of detail that you offer, we have credible and therefore valuable information that simply does not seem to be available elsewhere. Yes, there are others doing shotgun reviews, but I don't personally see anyone else in your league at the moment. Armed with some of the knowledge gained by your reviews I can approach the purchase of my next shotgun with the ability to make a much more informed and therefore better decision. Please keep up the good work!
Chris Ohland thanks man, that’s really good to hear. :).
Hands down best competition shotgun in the world. Nice review.
Great video mate. The DT11 is just a machine that works very well. Love Beretta
Great review - also have a 682 Gold E but decided to buy a DT11 partially based on this review - awesome gun - great decision to buy one. Thanks for all the reviews.
Good to hear :)
I also have a 682 Gold E combo and I'm thinking about trading it in against a new DT-11. Could you elaborate about what you like about the DT-11 vs your 682?
I can tell in 10 seconds whether or not you like a model of gun..you smile immediately when you are in love. Great vids.
Thanks Mike.
:)
Thank You Lloyd !
Excellent .....
I hate to disappoint you Remington Man, the DT-11 is made at the Due Factory Custom Shop. If you go there for a small fee you get can order it anyway you want !
The problem with Perazzi 's , is since Mr. Perazzi passed away, no one is checking custom order guns , and they leave the Factory not matching the order sheet from the customer's original order.
I speak from experience, as this was the case with the last 4 I had ordered . Disgusted with this lack of care from Mauro Perazzi , they are now gone .
I Love the Sporter DT -11 I now have and will never go back to a Perazzi !
Very Tall Birds yes that happened in the past when Bianca was there and that's why Mauro change her with new sales manger Mr Forti fabrizio and now every thing is working perfectly
I'm sorry Ali , but things are far from working perfectly ! I know more than 10 shooters in the last 24 months who Custom Ordered Perazzi's .
None of them came as ordered !!! Bianca was not the problem .
The problem is Mauro " Close Enough " Perazzi is the problem . This has been an on going problem for more than a few years !
He does not stand behind his product . That is why sales are falling world wide , and the price of used Perazzi's has come way down ......
Very Tall Birds this is surprising.. i orderd 7 perazzis for my friends and all of them come as ordered also my gun i received it last December 2016 also came as I ordered it .. i dont know what happened to your friends and i am very sorry to hear that
Hello, since it has been 3 yrs with ur dt11... May i ask u how is it holding up ? Im planning to buy one in few weeks
Lloyd, you should author a book, with reviews of many of the guns you have taken the excellent time to cover in your videos. Again, a super review on a superbly designed Beretta target crusher. Many of your videos have to be watched several times over, only because there is so much detail that you touch on as you describe the attributes of each gun, that one can miss, and owes themselves another viewing. I don't own a DT11, but they are obviously super guns. I do appreciate the removeable trigger systems, although they look a tad more difficult to replace a broken leaf spring than the Perazzi. Wonderful work my friend !! If you do author a book of gun reviews, I'll buy the first. Respectfully, Rob G., from Missouri, USA.
Thank you Rob, you are too kind :) I have never been as far west as Missouri, maybe someday.
Muchas gracias por todas tus evaluaciones de la BERETTA DT11. Compré ahora en agosto una BERETTA DT11 XTRAP BFAST, estoy muy contento con ella, es un Formula 1!!!
Saludos desde Buenos Aires, Argentina!!
Xander Cage Gracias y saludos desde Inglaterra :)
Great review! I’ve watched almost all of your vids but have not seen a review of your K80. I shot a K80 skeet the other day and was very impressed. Cheers!
I have never actually reviewed my own K80 Supersport as yet. Honest reason, I am keeping it aside in case we have a week where I can't source a gun and I dont have anything to review. Same with my M2.
Great review as always Lloyd, I’d like to see a few clays breaking in your vids and a little info on chokes, std stock measurements etc. Keep up the good work 👍
Meh, I never mention chokes because I think people spend too much time thinking about chokes.
Lloyd Pattison Thx 👍
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LIoyd You review Always Very very professional You’re simply the best
Thanks man :)
Trigger is a big deal to me. Been fussing with Citori trigger that got completely replaced and it came back with a 5 lbs trigger pull and i have to shoot it until it hits 4.5 lbs But, i do try to shoot 750 shells a week.
Thank you
You are welcome.
Stella review Mr Patterson!
Thank you.
What would you say were the Dt11 rivals? I'm looking to possibly upgrade next year, the Dt10 was my dream gun when I used to shoot at Bywell, I had a 682 gold e back then. Now a browning Gp after moving To Australia. I've been more in pistols here, its cheaper than clays. Its that rare time off life were the mortgage isn't too bad right now.
I’d say try and find a DT10, or a DT11 used.
Good review. Thanks for posting
Thank you.
Mr. Pattison, thank you for doing these reviews. I find them very informative as well as entertaining, and your enthusiasm is contagious. May I ask if you had to choose between a DT11 and the Caesar Guerini Invictus, which would you prefer? Here in the US, I believe the DT11 is slightly more expensive.
Bloody hell that's a tough choice, the invictus is a hell of a lot of fun for the money, so if money were a factor I would choose the CG. If money were no object I think I would go for the DT11.
Thanks for the prompt response. I think I heard you mention in another video that you currently shoot a Krieghoff. I assume this is a K-80? Here in the US, the K-80 is slightly more expensive than the DT11. So, if you had to choose between the DT11 and the K-80, which would you choose?
Ha ha! yes I shoot a K80SS, and for me, I haven't found a gun yet I would swap if for. A couple have come close but the K80 is still my favourite. If I had all the money in the world to spend on guns, I would have a DT11, an F3, and a High Tech, AS WELL, but as I can only afford one gun, it's the Krieghoff.
Very good review 👍
Thanks man.
This is funny......Looking for High end Skeet gun and happened on the DT11. Started looking into it and the price tag gave me chills. Then YT started posting DT videos in my list.
Found one video where the guy was missing all over the place (video fades out to next station...miss). I'm shooting 22 and 23.....I fall apart @ station 8 lol....Then I started thinking
$9K for 2 clay's....Then $9K for 18's (due to added stress) It takes nerves of steel and money to buy a high end gun. I have neither.....
You (and many others) are kinda thinking about this the wrong way. You aren't going to buy yourself any 25 straights by spending 10 large on a gun. Unless by spending that much it makes you want to shoot it more, and the practice makes you better. Get a gun that fits you and suits your style, but you need to spend a lot of time on the trigger to figure out what your style is, and to get good enough where you will get the benefit of a high end gun.
Hope that makes sense to you.
Hi lloyd, I now it's a oldie, I've got a perazzi mx8 in mint condition, but considering the dt11 acs for its adjustability wot you think , I also shoot the a400 excell acs which I love
Depends how you get on with the perazzi? A DT11ACS will feel heavy by comparison.
@@lloydyp thanks 👍
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OMG DT11 👍👍👍
Thank you.
Hey Lloyd.. how did you find the trigger pulls on the DT11? Did you feel any creep?
None at all, the DT11 has excellent trigger pulls.
@@lloydyp Thanks for the reply!! So if you had to choose between a DT11 silver or F3 sporter, which one would go for??
@@panayiotishadjipavlis1594 bloody hell, that's a tough question. For me? I love the look of the F3 and always have.
I see mx 8 and my 12 significantly more then dt11. Considering that I think beretta is better value. Blaser F3 is similarly priced but I have never seen one so I can't compare. My opinion please let me know what u guys think.
DT11 is great value for money, but not everyone gets on with the size and weight of the action. Horses for courses.
Hey Lloyd, would you consider the lack of adjustable comb on this gun a handicap if strictly used for DTL trap? 👍🏻🇨🇦
it entirely depends on the out of the box fit for you. You can learn to shoot anything, and the number of americans that shoot trap with stock pump guns certainly argues for shooting whatever you want. but as with all things it's a personal choice that you have to make based on how you shoot.
@@lloydyp Thank you sir. I currently shoot an F3 Supertrap but am enamoured with the DT11 for whatever reason…never shot one though. :(
@@davedunn7759 suggest you look at the DT11 Trap / XTrap / ACS models. Although I think the stock DT11 is a great all rounder.
@@lloydyp Thank you for taking the time to respond. Here in Canada, clay shooting isn’t super popular, so even trying a gun before you buy is almost unheard of. Sad, considering the cost of higher end guns.
silly question possibly but at this price point why not pack another grand or two on top and get a perazzi or Krieghof
You are right, it is a silly question 😂 The point is more that you are getting similar quality in a DT11 to the more expensive guns for less money.
@@lloydyp Then if you had to have only one and without going wild on engraving DT11, Perazzi or Krieghof? I´m currently looking so any honest opinion would be appreciated
Well Mr Pattison bought A Perazzi. I think that speaks volumes to me.
Bonjour
Quel est le meilleur fusil d’après vous pour la pratique de la DTL
Merci
Cordialement
Je dirais qu'il y a beaucoup de débats sur ce sujet entre le K80, le DT11 et le MX8. Je ne pense pas qu'il y ait un meilleur fusil pour DTL, juste celui qui vous convient le mieux. Tous sont d'excellents fusils mais ont une sensation assez différente, vous devrez les essayer pour déterminer celui qui convient le mieux à votre style de tir.
Merci beaucoup pour le moment je tire avec un MX8 3/4 full et j’ai un MK38 chokes inter fosse en secours du coup je n’arrive pas à choisir
Bon plus tard je pense à un K80
Merci bonne journée
It's good for hunting or clay shooting or both.
It's a clay gun, but you could certainly use it for hunting.
The sporting guns means that we can't use it for hunting?
No, you can very much hunt with it, it's just heavy for a hunting gun.
Thoughts on this versus guerini invictus? Obviously different price point, but how far off is the guerini?
They handle very similarly, I think the DT trigger is better but there isn't much in it. Personally I would go for the DT as I have tested nearly every model and they have all been great. I have only had a chance to play with 1 Invictus, and it was a while ago. They have released a new version that addresses the issues I mention in the Invictus review, but I haven't as yet had a chance to test the new one.
@@lloydyp Thanks Lloyd, really appreciate your insight! P.s. have been loving your videos, thank you!
hi Lloyd, are you going to get a chance to review dt11 anniversary?
I will if I can get hold of one. I don’t know if there is a press gun in the uk.
hi Lloyd. I'm shooting an f3 pro at the moment. I haven't quite found the sweet spot with it, and I'm interested in your opinion on dt11 black pro tsk. thanks. Brian Dillon
Bit if a marmite gun Brian. I liked it but it's not for everyone. There isn't a bad DT11 in fairness, but my question for you would be why GK balls out for the black pro, rather than a stock DT11 or DT11 black?
cheers lloyd, I might stick with the f3 for another while, and try a few other guns on the clay ground to see if anything catches my attention. what do you think is the sweetest handling gun from the first time it's picked up. thanks again.
For me? Lol my Perazzi. But I got on very well with my Krieghoff when I was shooting that too. Not everyone likes the weight and handling on a K80SS though.
thanks for all the info Lloyd.
Any time man.
Lloyd can you review the beretta 486 ?
I would very much like to, I just need to get my hands on one.
Lloyd Pattison thanks i cant wait for it .. my be i will buy it for my father
Perazzi head and shoulders above that brick.
Lol harsh.
@@lloydyp maybe... depends on whether you like a lively gun or not. Perazzi are lively gun... DT11 not so much.
This or a K80? Whats your take?
They are hardly in the same price bracket. Dt11 is fantastic value for money, but it’s not a Krieghoff.
Lloyd, how would you compare the dt 11 and dt10
The DT11 is a little chunkier, the pistol grip, the action, the general feel. Fantastic balance though. The DT10 just feels more slender in the hand.
Lloyd Pattison thank you. Love your expert vids. I currently have a 690 black looking to move to either dt10, 11 or k80
@@timsherman8701 Consider a Salvinelli!
can you explain the DT11 b-fast stock the change cast
You can change the cast at the comb be removing the comb , then moving the mounting posts left or right, then re mounting the comb. Does that answer your question?
@@lloydyp thanks. But I'm left handed with a right handed stock.... can it be adjusted as much ?
@@ishratkhan5000 Im not going to say I have never seen a LH shooter shoot well with a RH gun, but, I think that might be too much to ask of an adjustable comb.
@@lloydyp ur right bro. Sorry. I got carried away too. But I follow your videos, very helpful... thanks man.
@@ishratkhan5000 any time man. Glad you enjoy the show. ;)
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I will watch all the videos and I will like.take care.My English is very bad.I can't write,I am sorry.
Don't apologise man, happy that you enjoy the channel.
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Mx12 or mx8 ?!!!! please can you change the leaf spring in the d11 trigger and change it in mx8 ? You can see how fast and easy with perazzi .. no comparison between custom hand made gun ( perazzi ) and commercial made Beretta .. Perazzi is better .
Yet the DT11 left Perazzi in the wind at the last Olympic Games. Guess the world's top shooters don't much care about "hand made" vs. "commercial". They're just there for the medals. Please don't pull the whole "marketing" thing from your butt either. BTW......I have no stake in neither gun, I shoot a K80. Also as stated above, the DT 11 IS made in Beretta's Custom Shop. Please review your info before you post.
MegaFrank1960 yes because they pay for the shooters to change from perazzi to Beretta like Giovanni pellielo , Jessica rossi and Kim Rhode etc .. they all win in Olympic with perazzi they choose it because they know what is the best .. but if I can take 1M dollars and a good custom DT11 why not to change 😁 now Mauro perazzi return to deal with that and you will see .. buy the way if perazzi brings you order with something wrong they can fix it but if your DT11 shoote low left in first barrel they will not care about you
MegaFrank1960 I don't say any thing without knowing what is it like you k80 guy I shoot with dt11 and dt11l and I have mx2000s and I went to perazzi factory and Beretta factory and I know exactly what I am talking about .... Beretta us layin in every thing .. ferst no dtt11 come from custom shop , the custom shop is only for SO5 and above and the biggest thing that any one don't know about shooting will see the dt11 with 5 Olympic medals won with perazzi shotgun 😁 that's how the thing work .. and buy the way show some respect here I don't bring any thing from my butt 😊
Ali ,
The DT-11's are made in the " Due Custom Shop " where the SO Guns are manufactured. You can order any style stock and many options on thie DT-11 . If you go to the factory they will make your stock , and you can test fire the gun at the factory. Just like Perazzi ...... Many people have problems with Custom ordered Perazzi's. Mauro does not fix his problems too often.
He will tell you his famous line , when the order is not correct :
Close Enough !
A guy at my club recently (in the last year) spent 25K for a Perazzi. It has now been back to Pacific 3 times, twice for the butt stock cracking, and once for the trigger assembly, you know, the custom one, not working properly, got it back and has been using someone else's Perazzi's trigger, because the "fixed" one has been giving him grief. At way less than a Perazzi, the DT11 Skeet is what I'm now looking at. And, it helps that the world's best shooters, the international guys, all seem to be using the DT11