Very nice video. Interesting to note that the Stairway fill is a deviation of a fill by Max Roach from “Big Sid”. Bonham loved Jazz and Big Band. Krupa being his idol. What makes him so great is that his drumming is deeply rooted in percussion history. That and his amazing, feel, finesse, power and swing.
Good analysis and break down and totally agree with the double kick issue - use it where you ‘feel’ it’s right - that’s the essence of bonham! Good job as usual 💪
George I don't know how you got so good but I'm glad you do these videos. It is a big help to me. Thanks to you and Terry for making me get back to studying Bonham and both of you for my playing.
Thanks for breaking this down. I play by ear and the that can be deceiving sometimes. I’ve put a lot of time into stairway over the years and had that fill wrong. Keep up the good work.
Westy Thanks for slowing tempo and breaking the sticking down. If you could do that regular George we’d defo master these fills much quicker. Brilliant stuff.
I always thought Bonham paused between the last 2 strokes of that herta section...I listened to that part again on the studio version, and, by George, he may have thrown in a kick...I like it better with a pause... A bit off subject (but still regarding Stairway to Heaven), I have concluded that Bonham played a triplet groove at the ~6:45-7:15 vocal section - any comments about this from anyone here?...
Even learn from your "digressions" which I feel is really useful. Could you please take a crack at the 3 fills on the studio version of Misty Mountain. Thank you.
I've always felt the same way about learning parts from your favorite players. I think it's valuable to learn their various techniques so it can soak into your playing, but it's not critical to go into minute detail so you can play it exactly the same they did at some point in time. I'm sure for a lot of my favorite players that they couldn't reproduce their own parts note for note since it's as much about spontaneity.
It's so hard to hear if he does one or two bass drum notes on some of the recordings at full speed. Especially on the scratchy records that we all grew up learning from. :) Bravo! That fill is pure Bonham muscle on full display. Ferocious! How about the second fill after it in "Hots On For Nowhere"? Another great one! Great playing, George, and your kit is dialed in perfectly. Your cymbals have me counting my savings to go buy some Paistes. :)
Great playing and great vid! Also great talking about incorporation rather than total imitation!!!! Taking the master's stuff and making it your own!!! Keep it up!
Great breakdown George. Very concise! Bonham had so many variations ... I wonder what he would think of you guys analyzing his every move? probably flatttered and proud! I could tell you were not use to doing this 'bit' to camera at the beginning..but like your expert drumming you are becoming a pro at it! Thanks for this video on the Bonham herta.
Got to get my friend through Facebook to watch these...he not only knew Bonham .and his family but Bonham told him he Bonham was influenced by his... drumming!
Yes……when the two first met Bonham told my friend that he Bonham was influenced by my friends drumming.They are both from the same vintage! So to speak.Anyway I too would love to see a tunning video of the kit……if possible G.Thanks.
@@macdrummer007 Are you in the UK? I'm dying to know who the drummer was?! I met a guy who said he gave Bonzo a lesson or two when he was a teenager and he said it was clear he had talent but at that point wasn't refined . He said he was really loud ! His name is Gary Allcock. Don't know if he's still around. Very nice guy.
George, very informative, can you review your technique at 3:26 the double beat. Is that a heal toe movement because it is so fluid I just see your foot moving in a down stroke. Thanks
You need big vintage drums (24"-26" bass drum, 14", 16" and 18" toms) with a ludwig supraphonic LM402. The drums are tuned very high and the reso head is always even higher. Paiste cymbals (2002 and giant beats), less or no muffling. And of course, the most important: get that Bonham feel for playing.
@@andresListings01 lol, every video I click on there's always somebody saying "your snare/kit sounds so good" and it's usually good mixing and micing as well as tuning so it never ceases to amaze me how many ppl ask that question.
Great stuff George, thanks for writing out the sticking as well. This is one of my favorite fills. "Bucket of Fish," or the 5 stroke roll is another way I've heard it called. What is the sticking pattern after the Herta fills, (i.e. the end of the fill) please? Thanks for all this great Bonzo stuff.
If you send me your drum sizes, I'll send you the exact tuning. First you have to buy a Tama Tension Watch. It's like a torque wrench , but it sits on top of the skin 1" from the rim of the drum and then you turn the Tension rod to the exact amount of tension and then follow my tuning order on the skin. When you are done, you can write down the tension numbers for the top and bottom to each drum. This way whenever you change your skins you will always have the exact tuning,, FOREVER. My 1972 Rogers Drums are a Bonham Clone drum set. 3-ply maple/poplar/maple drums. Send it to my email!!
Great stuff! However I would like to request a different camera angle. The bass drum is not visible at all from this angle. I could not tell if the HOFN fill has the two bass drum strokes after the floor tom or one with the floor tom and one after?
Bonzosbadgeholder Yeah, I want to try get a better viewing angle. I don't have the capacity to do an inset bass drum camera. The fill you questioned has the two BD strokes after the floor tom.
Thanks George. Your playing is so inspiring! I love that you play this stuff note for note. We all want to play it the way we have heard it for so long.
At this time I used two mics, a Shure sm57 on the bass drum, and the overhead is a MXL V-250 condenser mic. I have a different set up now. Two Shure condensers overhead, sm57 on the snare and an AKG D112 on the bass drum.
George, I always wanted to hear Bonham doing it on a StW live but I never found a tape in which he actually did the herta big fill! Do you know if he ever did it live? Thank you in advance
Golden information. .. you put a relaxed feel to it.. it seems less rushed when you play it... hard to explain. You foot technique still impresses me though... even when playing softly you timing is perfect... it's really annoying me.. I'm gonna have to practice so much more. ...perhaps I should stop punishing myself with my ancient speed king... or perhaps give it a service...
Robert Crowther thank you Robert! It's like a flavor in a meal....you have to just refine it once you have the basic ingredients. Maybe you should try a different pedal that isn't a struggle for you, if the old Speed King is giving you a hard time.
lovely breakdown george, id love to see a slow break down of the crossover pattern end of moby dick , that would be brilliant , would there be any chance of doing that thanks very much i get so many drummers talking to me , and ive introduced them to you , and that would also make there day all the best
Once you've learned a few Zeppelin songs you can pretty play 99% of Bohnam licks. That same herta roll is at the end of rock n roll too during the drum solo even the tail end of that fill where he plays six strokes and ends it with a eighth note shuffle.
Even though I don’t play drums, I love your channel and how you break down how Bonzo made those incredible sounds.
you should start playing! even when you're not that good it's still a great way to relieve stress.
I really like your straight forward approach to explaining John's subtle talent.
These fills were always the ones I was dragging the stylus back to rehear ....Herta ....you the man.
Fabulous drumsound. The way drums should sound. Bold, deep, full of tone and resonance. Terrific playing here ! Well done !
Great inspiration George! Ever in Naperville reach out to get coffee.
Hey George u & TERRY r my fav's...uguys r cool and I never can get bored of your videos!!! thanks 😃
Very nice video. Interesting to note that the Stairway fill is a deviation of a fill by Max Roach from “Big Sid”. Bonham loved Jazz and Big Band. Krupa being his idol. What makes him so great is that his drumming is deeply rooted in percussion history. That and his amazing, feel, finesse, power and swing.
Holy crap this is terrific stuff George!❤️
It's great the way you break it down it shows the jazz influence that Bonham and other drummer's from that era would of grown up listening to.. 👍👍💪💪
Good analysis and break down and totally agree with the double kick issue - use it where you ‘feel’ it’s right - that’s the essence of bonham! Good job as usual 💪
George I don't know how you got so good but I'm glad you do these videos. It is a big help to me. Thanks to you and Terry for making me get back to studying Bonham and both of you for my playing.
Thanks for the great vid, George! You're my new favorite Bonzo enthusiast!
Fabulous breakdown, thank you. I’ll be back 👏🇦🇺✌️
Thanks for breaking this down. I play by ear and the that can be deceiving sometimes. I’ve put a lot of time into stairway over the years and had that fill wrong. Keep up the good work.
Westy
Thanks for slowing tempo and breaking the sticking down. If you could do that regular George we’d defo master these fills much quicker. Brilliant stuff.
9:00 depending on how hammered he may have been. lol. true most likely
@J.J Herndon I'd say alot of people has never thought about that!! It sure makes since to me!!
@bonzology you are correct. Hungover, sometimes. Buzzed, often. Hammered, never.
Nice video. Straight into the point. I dig.
Excellent work and thanks so much for sharing your expertise and knowledge.... Invaluable 👍👍👊
I always thought Bonham paused between the last 2 strokes of that herta section...I listened to that part again on the studio version, and, by George, he may have thrown in a kick...I like it better with a pause...
A bit off subject (but still regarding Stairway to Heaven), I have concluded that Bonham played a triplet groove at the ~6:45-7:15 vocal section - any comments about this from anyone here?...
Thank you George broken down nicely
Thank you for your time
Damn, George, fucking nailed it. Such a helpful and insightful video. Thanks!
Very glad that I subscribed! Thank you for taking the time to explain these!
Even learn from your "digressions" which I feel is really useful. Could you please take a crack at the 3 fills on the studio version of Misty Mountain. Thank you.
I guess I am kind of off topic but does anybody know of a good site to stream new series online?
@Emory Kareem i watch on Flixzone. You can find it on google =)
@Nickolas Layne Yup, I have been using flixzone for since march myself =)
@Nickolas Layne thanks, I signed up and it seems to work =) I appreciate it!!
@Emory Kareem no problem :)
George I don't remember seeing a video of you doing Hots on for Nowhere. One of my favorite later Zeppelin songs. Hope you do one soon.
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😁👍🏻
@@BONHAMOLOGY thanks George. It's unbelievable how good you are
Very nice and easy to understand thanks mucho
Awesome... you're certainly taking this to a "HNL" --> "'hole nutha level"
Thanks for the insight and all the work!
Awesome lesson G ! Now time to apply it to my practice 👍
I've always felt the same way about learning parts from your favorite players. I think it's valuable to learn their various techniques so it can soak into your playing, but it's not critical to go into minute detail so you can play it exactly the same they did at some point in time. I'm sure for a lot of my favorite players that they couldn't reproduce their own parts note for note since it's as much about spontaneity.
It's so hard to hear if he does one or two bass drum notes on some of the recordings at full speed. Especially on the scratchy records that we all grew up learning from. :) Bravo! That fill is pure Bonham muscle on full display. Ferocious! How about the second fill after it in "Hots On For Nowhere"? Another great one! Great playing, George, and your kit is dialed in perfectly. Your cymbals have me counting my savings to go buy some Paistes. :)
Thanks bro
Love these videos
Excellent!
right on brother i love it keep up the good work
Amazing stuff buddy!!! I would like to chat with you about a kit I’m looking to purchase. Aaron
Great stuff
thanks for the information on the fills
Thanks George!
Great playing and great vid! Also great talking about incorporation rather than total imitation!!!! Taking the master's stuff and making it your own!!! Keep it up!
Great breakdown George. Very concise! Bonham had so many variations ... I wonder what he would think of you guys analyzing his every move? probably flatttered and proud! I could tell you were not use to doing this 'bit' to camera at the beginning..but like your expert drumming you are becoming a pro at it! Thanks for this video on the Bonham herta.
Thanks for that!
Got to get my friend through Facebook to watch these...he not only knew Bonham .and his family but Bonham told him he Bonham was influenced by his... drumming!
Mac That's amazing, Bonham told your friend he was influenced by his drumming? Not sure I understand what you're saying there.
Yes……when the two first met Bonham told my friend that he Bonham was influenced by my friends drumming.They are both from the same vintage! So to speak.Anyway I too would love to see a tunning video of the kit……if possible G.Thanks.
@@macdrummer007 Are you in the UK? I'm dying to know who the drummer was?! I met a guy who said he gave Bonzo a lesson or two when he was a teenager and he said it was clear he had talent but at that point wasn't refined . He said he was really loud ! His name is Gary Allcock. Don't know if he's still around. Very nice guy.
That kit is mint.
George, very informative, can you review your technique at 3:26 the double beat. Is that a heal toe movement because it is so fluid I just see your foot moving in a down stroke. Thanks
awesome
Fanfriggintastic!!!!
Oh shoot forgot to hit the like button the first three times I watched this.
Your kit sounds amazing! How can I make mine sound like that?
You need big vintage drums (24"-26" bass drum, 14", 16" and 18" toms) with a ludwig supraphonic LM402. The drums are tuned very high and the reso head is always even higher. Paiste cymbals (2002 and giant beats), less or no muffling. And of course, the most important: get that Bonham feel for playing.
Learn to tune
@@joetroutt7425 lol 😂. Good reply! I’ve learnt since then.
@@andresListings01 lol, every video I click on there's always somebody saying "your snare/kit sounds so good" and it's usually good mixing and micing as well as tuning so it never ceases to amaze me how many ppl ask that question.
How funny i cannot believe this that is my favorite fill by bohnam
Great stuff George, thanks for writing out the sticking as well. This is one of my favorite fills. "Bucket of Fish," or the 5 stroke roll is another way I've heard it called. What is the sticking pattern after the Herta fills, (i.e. the end of the fill) please? Thanks for all this great Bonzo stuff.
Musicians On The Record Right! After the herta fill it's simply LH tom , RH floor, BD, then LH snare, RH floor, BD. Triplets.
Thanks George, I appreciate it!
Please please please do a legit tuning video of the whole kit. Thanks
If you send me your drum sizes, I'll send you the exact tuning. First you have to
buy a Tama Tension Watch. It's like a torque wrench , but it sits on top of the skin
1" from the rim of the drum and then you turn the Tension rod to the exact amount
of tension and then follow my tuning order on the skin. When you are done, you can write down the tension numbers for the top and bottom to each drum. This way whenever you change your skins you will
always have the exact tuning,, FOREVER. My 1972 Rogers Drums are a Bonham Clone drum set. 3-ply maple/poplar/maple drums. Send it to my email!!
@@josephmonaco4503 amazing stuff learning a lot from you..can you send me the tension watch settings too please I need that sound 😆
Great stuff! However I would like to request a different camera angle. The bass drum is not visible at all from this angle. I could not tell if the HOFN fill has the two bass drum strokes after the floor tom or one with the floor tom and one after?
Bonzosbadgeholder Yeah, I want to try get a better viewing angle. I don't have the capacity to do an inset bass drum camera. The fill you questioned has the two BD strokes after the floor tom.
Thanks George. Your playing is so inspiring! I love that you play this stuff note for note. We all want to play it the way we have heard it for so long.
Same fill in Separate Ways - Steve Smith
Smith does the first part but not the second part though, right?
Can you cover driven to tears
What mic are you using? It's great.
At this time I used two mics, a Shure sm57 on the bass drum, and the overhead is a MXL V-250 condenser mic. I have a different set up now. Two Shure condensers overhead, sm57 on the snare and an AKG D112 on the bass drum.
George, how bout a Clyde Stubblefield episode?
George, I always wanted to hear Bonham doing it on a StW live but I never found a tape in which he actually did the herta big fill! Do you know if he ever did it live? Thank you in advance
For years I thought there was a double on the snare at the start of the fill. Then I paid more attention and realised I was a complete buffoon. ..
4:07
Golden information. .. you put a relaxed feel to it.. it seems less rushed when you play it... hard to explain. You foot technique still impresses me though... even when playing softly you timing is perfect... it's really annoying me.. I'm gonna have to practice so much more. ...perhaps I should stop punishing myself with my ancient speed king... or perhaps give it a service...
Robert Crowther thank you Robert! It's like a flavor in a meal....you have to just refine it once you have the basic ingredients. Maybe you should try a different pedal that isn't a struggle for you, if the old Speed King is giving you a hard time.
Hey George what pedal do you use and what's your tension?
T REX Its a Camco (Tama) chain drive, and it's about med tension ....not sure what the setting is but it's not real tense, but not loose either.
It is important.
lovely breakdown george, id love to see a slow break down of the crossover pattern end of moby dick , that would be brilliant , would there be any chance of doing that thanks very much i get so many drummers talking to me , and ive introduced them to you , and that would also make there day all the best
Hey George are u going to the Chicago drum show
Hey Derek! I'm not sure, I may be out of town that weekend. Long time man, hope you're well.
BONZOLOGY with Terry & George dude i’ve been trying to give u a call for years i left my no on your website give me a buzz when u get a chance
Derek Landin I didn't get a message through my website, can you send one again?
Once you've learned a few Zeppelin songs you can pretty play 99% of Bohnam licks. That same herta roll is at the end of rock n roll too during the drum solo even the tail end of that fill where he plays six strokes and ends it with a eighth note shuffle.
it’s on your instagram
whoah...the darkest most labrynthine doors of the bonzoleum you have illuminated....yeeez....
Alive phrasing
Micro scopic😊
Flutas double live Bonzo! lol!!!
Carful, you might put terry out of business
please dont count off.