HI-TEK Coating with Cleatus

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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2024

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  • @PatriotPaulUSA
    @PatriotPaulUSA 2 місяці тому

    Very well shown ! Great video !

  • @dandix1660
    @dandix1660 Рік тому

    Cranky, I enjoyed your presentation and insight to detail. Our process is very similar. There are now several coatings available and more will be developed. The best part is that it can be done by individuals. Thank you for the video.
    Dan Dix

  • @moiecol
    @moiecol 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks !!! There was one change I made from your video.
    2nd coat/size then final coat. 👍🏼

  • @pabuffa
    @pabuffa Рік тому +1

    I just completed about 15 pounds of 175 grainers for my Glock 20. I used a teaspoon per five pounds and cooked them at 400 degrees for 25 minutes starting with a cold oven. Three coats. They passed the smash test and the coating did not come off during the acetone rub test. I like this better than powder coating ….
    Thanks for the info.

  • @echosreloadingchamber7306
    @echosreloadingchamber7306 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice job Cranky. I love the attention to detail. Turned out really nice. Echo

  • @ronkeyser1874
    @ronkeyser1874 5 років тому +1

    Cleatus . I was lucky enough to have been introduced to the hy-tek powder coating process from the beginning . I would never ever ever use another process. There is absolutely no waste what so ever . It is very clean if you wear gloves and just a little tip . I use canned air to speed up the shake process of getting the acetone to evaporate and it works GREAT !!! No more shaking for 1 to 3 minutes till evaporating. Just a blast or 2 of air and it is gone and then as you shake it clumps up and as we all know thats what you are looking for to tell you the acetone is gone and only powder left on bullet . Give it a try . I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the speed involved and shaking a heavy bucket is labor intensive after a few batches so this REALLY helps speed up the process :-)
    Thanks for showing people this process as it works THE BEST PERIOD !!! Complete uniform coverage each and every time unlike the harbor freight process . I get my powder from Missouri Bullet company they have great prices and send right to your door . Thanks again Buddy . Ron

  • @pcbulletempire9872
    @pcbulletempire9872 6 років тому

    I like it ,you make the process look neater than other people have 👍👍👏👏🇺🇸🤓

  • @nycreloader
    @nycreloader 6 років тому

    Loved the video great process. Thanks for taking the time to make this video and share your skills with all of us.

  • @perfectionist2032
    @perfectionist2032 5 років тому +1

    Yes definitely Informative & well presented.

  • @Portuguese-linguica
    @Portuguese-linguica 4 роки тому +1

    Cranky you did good man love the video / info subed

  • @smsgtbulldog
    @smsgtbulldog 3 роки тому +1

    Very informative...thanks Cranky

  • @mckwilly
    @mckwilly 6 років тому

    The method behind the madness , great video my friend thx for sharing

  • @kyfirearms
    @kyfirearms 6 років тому

    Excellent job sir. Great video, very informative.

  • @miketreen7403
    @miketreen7403 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for sharing this. Was wondering about the difference between it and powder coating. Everyone seems to make out that the Hi-tec is a pain and really messy, but it looks like anything else. The more prep you do before, the easier it is.

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому +1

      Mike Treen I found it had a bigger learning curve. Basically I got good PC results right away doing the Elvis shake & bake. It took me 4 tries to get my HT process worked out. I also watch the oven temp more religiously than I do with PC. With PC I usually set the timer and walk away and maybe check it once while it’s baking. HT I’ll check every 2-3 minutes because you can over cook them pretty easily.

    • @lestergillis8171
      @lestergillis8171 2 роки тому

      @@CrankyCleatus I have been a religious user of plain straight liquid Alox since I started reloading in early 1993.
      However, the 45-45-10 and THIS looks to have merit. I would try both right away if I wasn't buried so deep in credit card debt.
      Still... I would like some recommendations from you on types of acetone resistant utility containers ect that you use.
      Did you find your electric oven at a "used store"?
      Any recommendations at this point would be beneficial for me IF I ever get my credit card debt down,(I'm on SSDI, but "working on it".)
      It appears that you must have a airtight shaker container for unused product to keep the acetone from evaporating. What kind of metal did you make your drying screen out of ?🤔
      "Expiring minds want to know".🤔
      The more info you give, the better chance one will have of a "first time go".
      👍😉.
      In the meantime, I will subscribe...👀

  • @Thorsaxe777
    @Thorsaxe777 6 років тому

    Cleatus. Nice presentation, I like your ability to show how, without sounding like we are in school and have to take notes. Thanks for sharing with us, Btw, high tech coating is a process that many casters never look in to, I believe that it provides a uniform coating that is even all the way around. May have an edge on accuracy over powder coat? Maybe. I believe that distance tells the story. That is my assumption. as you know, I'm a Tridshonal sizer lubricator guy, However, I'm glad to see that there are methods for guys to use that don't involve a huge investment to get quality accurate projectiles. Good video. Dave

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому +1

      Thor's Axe Thank you. I’ve never tried traditional lubes yet. I’ve never tested PC coating vs HT to see if you get more velocity with one or the other. I suspect HT will get slightly higher speeds since the coating seems slicker. I know I don’t have to change load data to go from one to the other, so any differences can’t be much. My 300blk load I developed using PC shoots just as well with HT bullets. 😁

    • @Thorsaxe777
      @Thorsaxe777 6 років тому

      .300 blackout is one of those cartridges where casting just makes a lot of sense from what I see on youtube. .30cal bullets, even the 147gr FMJBT are $$$$. and overall accuracy for the range of the .300 does not justify as an edge with the FMJ bullets. (In My Opinion) from what I see. The .300 Blackout seems to be the little Darling down at the shin-dig that everyone likes to dance with, light recoil and ballistic foot pounds is a big plus and all in an AR package.

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому

      It's a fun cartridge. If/when I move out of NJ I'd like to experiment more with it suppressed and in an AR. Right now I'm just shooting it out of a Ruger American Ranch. I shot a 1" group at 100 yards with a 145g cast bullet at 2077fps, using LC 223 brass I converted. It's not a long range gun, but it's great for banging steel at the range with my son. :)

  • @243Outdoors
    @243Outdoors 6 років тому

    I may look into this. I have been fighting the powder coating. Great video explaining the process.

  • @pewpewTN
    @pewpewTN 2 роки тому +2

    I bought some .40 match projectiles from a local company that uses the Hi-Tek coating.
    The coolest thing I have noticed is that it actually helps remove copper fouling from the barrel.
    If I've been shooting jacketed ammo for awhile, I can load a couple mags of the Hi-Tek stuff & the majority of the fouling is out of the barrel.

  • @TinManReloading
    @TinManReloading 6 років тому

    You forgot to stand them on their bases! Hahaha, just kidding man. This looks like a really solid option for bullet coating. I wouldn't mind giving it a try. Great video, very informative! 👍🇺🇸

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому

      TinMan Yeah no standing up necessary 😂👍. Harder to master than PC, but I think the final coating is nicer.👍

  • @DimaProk
    @DimaProk 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the close ups. I was hoping to get true solid color but I can see that even after 3 coats you can still see small specks of what appears bare lead.

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  3 роки тому

      Gonna disagree...bright LED lights in the garage show glare...absolutely no lead showing even after 2 coats, let alone 3. Not trying to sell anyone on hi-tek. I still PC too, especially rifle ammo...but can’t beat hi-tek for bulk pistol ammo.

    • @DimaProk
      @DimaProk 3 роки тому

      @@CrankyCleatus I don't know but it does look that way at 12:40 and it's not lights glare, I can see the difference. I am still going to order and try Hi-Tek, I powder coat now but I want mark free and 100% coverage.

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  3 роки тому

      @@DimaProk still gonna disagree..i have LEDs hanging over my bench...after 3 coats there is zero lead showing, just camera catching glare. Like I said, I use both hi-tek, and PC...like them both...hi-tek has a little more learning curve than PC, so don’t quit too easy, most fail on 1st attempt. I know I did.

    • @DimaProk
      @DimaProk 3 роки тому

      @@CrankyCleatus ok, I am hoping that I am wrong for my sake :)

  • @johnanderson186
    @johnanderson186 2 роки тому

    I wonder if you could do this with powder coat paints? You know mix them to a thin consistency like this hi-tek coating except with powder coat, just enough to apply a nice thin layer and just recoat 2-3 times to get a smoother finish.
    I will be experimenting with this!

  • @l.a.3887
    @l.a.3887 6 місяців тому

    Looks good. have you checked your barrels for leading?

  • @f48films33
    @f48films33 2 роки тому +1

    Do you try the acetone test wiping the bullet. Had a batch that gave a bit of coating residue after I wiped it with acetone. Bullet seems hard and not sticky at all and passed the hammer test. I feel there good but wonder if you have any thought on this👍good video man

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  2 роки тому +1

      I have but usually just do the hammer test now. Early on, I over cooked a couple batches and they failed both tests. Never had issues shooting anything that passed the hammer test so I’m comfortable with just doing the one test.👍 I’d shoot them if I was you 😁.

  • @georgiaboy4410
    @georgiaboy4410 6 років тому

    Great informative video. I can see this being an advantage Over powder coat because of thickness in guns with tight chambers like my win 94. 👍🏻

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому

      Georgiaboy44 Curious to see how they shoot in your 94. Don't you have more snakes you could test it out on. 🐍🔫😂 I need to get back to load development myself, maybe that 8208-XBR will be the ticket. 👍

  • @chicowize
    @chicowize 6 років тому

    Interesting process. Great how to video Brother. TFS

  • @doranmaxwell1755
    @doranmaxwell1755 4 роки тому +1

    Do not wear your prescription glasses when shaking or spraying solution... if you get any on em? they are ruined.

  • @LoadsofBacon
    @LoadsofBacon 6 років тому

    Great video Cleatus!

  • @jamespollard1670
    @jamespollard1670 4 роки тому +1

    Great video , but Tinman won't do it as well . LOL

  • @tonygslc801
    @tonygslc801 4 роки тому +1

    I've been buying my hi tek coated bullets from GallantBullets but I would love to try this myself. I blame Scotsman! 😂😂😂

  • @Retiredin
    @Retiredin 6 років тому

    Great job describing all of the work and steps into doing this I wish I had the room

  • @disposable762
    @disposable762 6 років тому

    Thanks man that helped a bunch.

  • @bryansandoval3498
    @bryansandoval3498 3 роки тому +1

    Good video, do you have to presoak the bullets with acetone first and if so for how long? New to bullet coating

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  3 роки тому

      If they are freshly cast and haven't been handled a lot than you can probably skip it. I usually do it anyway...not long, just a 10 or 15 minute soak. I have a couple bullets that I'll lube and resize before I coat...and those I give a good long overnight soak to get all the lube off before coating.

    • @bryansandoval3498
      @bryansandoval3498 3 роки тому

      @@CrankyCleatus followed your directions and when I attempted to size, I had to use a lot of effort to seat the bullets into my lee sizing die. The sizing step shaved and exposed some of the coating and the outer edges from the base of my bullets come out rough also exposing parts of lead. Any tips on how to fix this or know what I'm doing wrong?

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  3 роки тому

      @@bryansandoval3498 Sounds like a failed coating? Did you do a hammer 🔨 test and smash one of your bullets? It shouldn’t flake off. When done right, the hi-tek finish should have sleek feel and act as a lube when sizing. Haven’t seen your issue unless the bullets where over cooked and coating became dry and flaky.

  • @mario3804
    @mario3804 Рік тому +1

    All those you knows we should add a counter to this video 😂

  • @lestergillis8171
    @lestergillis8171 2 роки тому

    I don't get why you are using a .358 sizer for 9mm bullets...🤔
    It SHOULD be .356 (Hypothetically).

  • @OzarkSpirit
    @OzarkSpirit 6 років тому +1

    I’m definitely going to try this

  • @bigpoppa6998
    @bigpoppa6998 6 років тому

    Nice Chicowize sent me👍🇺🇸

  • @pueblochiliroasters
    @pueblochiliroasters 4 роки тому +1

    What Hiteck did you use, there seems to be a dozen different makers on the web. Would like to get the correct one the first time. Thank You

  • @billjohnson53
    @billjohnson53 6 років тому

    Excellent video, what is the advantage of hi-tek coating over powder coating?

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому +1

      bill johnson I think the coating is more even and consistent. It doesn’t add the thickness that PC does either, so if you have a tight chamber the thickness of PC can impact seating depth. The bullets don’t stick when baking and even though it takes multiple coats, I feel like I can do larger batches of HT than PC. Bake time is 8-12 minutes instead of 20. I like both and will continue to use both for now.

    • @billjohnson53
      @billjohnson53 6 років тому

      CrankyCleatus thank you

  • @Leverguns50
    @Leverguns50 6 років тому

    I never tried that kind of coating on a bullet how fast can you shoot it before it starts leading? What’s the difference between that and regular lubricated bullets?

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому +1

      Lever guns 50-110 WCF I've never shot traditionally lubed bullets, so I can't compare the two. I have heard people who shot both say that PC or HT are less smoky. Leading is mostly caused by gas cutting due to undersized bullets. I've never had any leading using PC or HT. I shoot 145g plain base cast bullet 2077fps in 300BLK with no issues. The 124g bullet in this video at 2150fps in 357 without leading. 165g gas checked cast bullet at 2285fps in 30-30, without leading. All 3 of my pistols 380, 9mm, & 40 using PC & HT without leading. I don't cast for 223 yet, since bulk 55gr bullets are so cheap, I just haven't bothered.

    • @Leverguns50
      @Leverguns50 6 років тому

      CrankyCleatus Thanks for answering my questions, A hard cast bullet is only good for about 2200 FPS with traditional lubrication and gas checks
      I have wrap them with teflon tape around them to get a little bit more speed out of them, keep up the good work thanks for sharing

  • @AfricanSafariFilms
    @AfricanSafariFilms 4 роки тому +2

    Great video, but all the umm’s are a bit much. Counted 124 umms total

    • @pcbulletempire9872
      @pcbulletempire9872 4 роки тому +2

      Wow, Dude you have too much time on our hands, umm.

    • @OzarkSpirit
      @OzarkSpirit 4 роки тому +1

      African Safari Films you are trolling? SMH

  • @williebulletman5217
    @williebulletman5217 6 років тому

    That’s really cool now we’re do you get the hi-tek powder from I would like to give it a try now I have tried the powder coat with acetone and they didn’t work that well but this High-tek is interesting to me

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому

      I never tried the acetone mixed with PC before, but I've heard of people doing it...not sure I've heard anyone say they were successful at doing it :)

  • @doranmaxwell1755
    @doranmaxwell1755 5 років тому

    For me.... I like to run the mix a little lean.. more acetone. I have found that a convection oven is best using a oven thermometer ... Ok.. longer is better.. run the oven for 15 minutes after the thermometer reaches 400 degrees. dump the whole thing in water. dry. then give it a second coat. run for at least 15 minutes at 400 and then dump in water. Two things.. heating that long will make all the bullets darker. Using a lean mix may make the bullets coating a tad spotty that .... hurts nothing.

    • @ronkeyser1874
      @ronkeyser1874 5 років тому

      I agree !! I found the batch on the top rack was always my best batch as it was closer to the heat element. Now instead of 375-400 for 10 minutes I do 13 for the first batch then 12 minutes for each batch after that since its heated up and it works great and yes lean is better . Always better to do 2 or 3 think coats then 1 or 2 thick ones . I have never had a failure with this process . As long as people follow the directions for the most part they always work out great . I would NEVER EVER do the harbor freight process . What a mess and what a waste of product and time and I believe that thick shell creates an inferior product (the harbor freight product)

  • @ocean374
    @ocean374 6 років тому

    Great video I like it 👍👍 do you like both methods powder coating and hi-tek and which one do you prefer

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому +1

      ocean374 Yeah, I like both. I like the overall coating of the hitek better, but PC was easier to master and you have a much wider variety of colors if that matters to you. I know some people like to color code loads, so have more choices helps in those cases.

  • @JoGonz1974
    @JoGonz1974 4 роки тому +1

    I'm back here again for the trolls. 🤣

  • @doranmaxwell1755
    @doranmaxwell1755 4 роки тому

    Why would you add a coat after sizing?

  • @williebulletman5217
    @williebulletman5217 6 років тому

    Hello Cranky I have a question what type of container are you using with your acetone and powder I understand acetone will melt plastic ?? Thank you sir

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  6 років тому

      Check slack Willie, sent photo and details on what I use.

    • @TheExplosiveGuy
      @TheExplosiveGuy Рік тому

      The square plastic bottles that Planters Peanuts come in (2lb size) work great for me. I can process up to 7 pounds of 9mm per batch in it, I close the lid on it immediately after pouring in the Hi-Tek and swirl for 30 seconds, then open it and swirl for another 10 then dump on wax paper, it's given me nice even coatings since the square sides help agitate and disperse the coating. But anything made of PET plastic will work, can actually store acetone in them, it has no effect on the plastic.

  • @makskk6spm275
    @makskk6spm275 Рік тому

    What tool you are using on 11:25 ? it's something to calibrate bullets.

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  Рік тому +1

      Lee sizing die. Old style…they have newer designs now. 👍

    • @makskk6spm275
      @makskk6spm275 Рік тому

      @@CrankyCleatus Thanks!

  • @OzarkSpirit
    @OzarkSpirit 4 роки тому +1

    What’s your favorite color?

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  4 роки тому

      I like the black and black cherry the best. Not a big fan of the gold.

    • @OzarkSpirit
      @OzarkSpirit 4 роки тому +1

      CrankyCleatus I figured you know

  • @JoseL562
    @JoseL562 3 роки тому

    what lead alloy where you using? asking cause I seem to have issues with hitek when the alloy is a tad bit soft, but not have that issue with PC

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  3 роки тому +1

      Most of the time I use clip on wheel weights with a bit of tin tossed in and water quench when casting. I only started casting softer alloys for 45 Colt recently, but haven’t tried Hi-Tek on them yet, just PC.

  • @ayemay2030
    @ayemay2030 3 роки тому

    What sizing setup you running?

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  3 роки тому +1

      I size using either Lee sizing dies or NOE sizing dies on a single stage press.

  • @CinePote
    @CinePote 4 роки тому +1

    Way too long a video, too much repetition, but what really got me is the umh, umh, umh, umh. Turned me right of.

    • @OzarkSpirit
      @OzarkSpirit 4 роки тому +2

      Snoozy, you have every right to say whatever you want. However, until you make your own videos, you have no reason. It just makes you a troll.

  • @RyanSpringer1984
    @RyanSpringer1984 5 років тому

    Do you cast your own lead?

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  5 років тому

      Yes, I cast my own lead bullets.

    • @RyanSpringer1984
      @RyanSpringer1984 5 років тому

      @@CrankyCleatus do youhave a video or could you point me in the direction of what equipment I would need? I've been thinking about doing this. I already went ahead and ordered a press.

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  5 років тому +1

      I haven't made any videos on casting. But you can go over to TheReloadersNetwork.com and find many videos on casting, reloading, shooting, & hunting videos. UA-cam has deleted a lot of peoples casting videos, so TheReloadersNetwork.com is great place to find gun related content.

  • @adrianjosephhoffart1
    @adrianjosephhoffart1 4 роки тому

    Powder coating is much easier and cheaper quicker

    • @CrankyCleatus
      @CrankyCleatus  4 роки тому

      For small batches like 10-15lb of bullets, yeah PC is faster. But I can do 30-40lb faster using Hi-Tek than I can using PC. I still do both PC and Hi-Tek...maybe one day I’ll decide to stick with just one.

    • @pcbulletempire9872
      @pcbulletempire9872 4 роки тому +2

      I like PCing myself.🤣😂

  • @georgiaboy4410
    @georgiaboy4410 4 роки тому +1

    This is what happens when you quit making vids. People post your old ones🤣

  • @doctorbill6301
    @doctorbill6301 4 роки тому +1

    Too many "ya know"s ! Ya know !

  • @michaeldion8798
    @michaeldion8798 4 роки тому +1

    You sure say "um" a lot.

  • @TinManReloading
    @TinManReloading 4 роки тому

    Too many "You know..."'s