I feel insulted😂😂 I have a small kit I bought at Home Depot like 7 years ago and it is still going strong. I’m not a mechanic tho, I just do minor work like oil changes, and brakes.
@@MannyAguilarJr I frequently work with the other shops out here. We are a strong small group that all have specific strengths. That is probably why there are like 5 shops that have been here 20 something years.
@@AS34N It's too short. You're not getting drain plugs off easily with that Jr Varsity ratchet. Use a standard length ratchet. It would make life so much easier. Just to clarify, drain plugs usually have a copper crush washer that seals the plug to the drain pan. It's not coming off with that tiny ratchet unless you're really hanging on it.
@@Darion350 depends on the car, not all use the copper crush washer. And you should be able to get the drain plug off with that ratchet, no point in going that tight
@@agtronicsupposed to use the right tool for the job. Use a longer ratchet however he used a scaffold pole to lengthen the leverage on his ratchet! Never use a scaffold pole on a ratchet only on a breaker bar because the teeth are gonna break!
@@cody7068he literally used a tube with a 3/8 small ratchet lmao . He's suppose to use a breaker bar. So yea let's start by using proper tools. And the breaker bar should be one of those tools that's a must
@@GGigabiteM Yeah that's what he would do if he was interested in saving the customer money. Doubt thats his concern, sadly. Mechanics will charge you $100 to change a fuse.
@@countersteer713 $100 to change a fuse is a deal. Fuses and relays go for highway robbery prices these days, and troubleshooting electrical gremlins is an absolute nightmare. Fuses don't blow for no reason, they have to figure out why the fuse blew so it doesn't blow again. If they don't find the problem the first time, or the problems are layered, they can easily go through $100 in fuses. As someone who has redone wiring harnesses and done electrical gremlin hunting myself, I'd gladly pay someone else at least that much so I don't have to do it anymore. I remember being at my buddies shop a few years back when some honda SUV rolled in. It had three cooked relays from age (points carboned up and arced out.) It also had several blown fuses. EACH relay was proprietary and only available from the dealer at almost $40 a pop once tax was added. The fuses were $5-10 a pop. Once he factored in his time, it was going to be $200+.
In my experience it's the threads on the plug that strip 9 times out of 10. I've lost count of how many times I've had to weld a nut on a stripped out drain plug.
don't forget the air filters 40$ air filter and 230$ fluid flushes which are absolutely necessary. never mind that the car got that service less than 10k miles ago.
*Guy pretending to struggle to get the bolt off with the smallest wrench in his shop for .002 seconds "Ah geez this must be a commonly common problem that is common" *Gets a breaker bar, turning it into a normal size wrench, and removes it "Ah man thats damage. Theres damage there. I felt it through the breaker bar and wrench. Ah geez the damage" Bill: $17.38 parts $12,895 labor
My mother has a Rav 4 that every single oil change has been at the dealership it was bought at. About two years ago the service tech came and said that someone had stripped out the oil drain plug and they'd have to replace the pan. She told them to look at their records and they realized that she'd been there every single 5,000 miles so it had to have been them so they replaced it for free lol. So yeah dealerships do it to.
@@MintyFreshTurds No, pans have been aluminum with steel plugs for many vehicles since the 90s. Now they are often plastic. Super easy to tell an aluminum from steel. Aluminum ones have a web of reinforcement.
@@Cragified Oh yeah, sorry there's only the Stinger that I do sometimes I work at Kia. I use a torque wrench on that one because I can't feel it tightening up. All the others have steel pans. I would also like to add that aluminum and plastic pans are bare, steel pans are painted is an easier identifier.
Not necessarily. Notice he has to use the ratchet the whole time? That means the threads have been cross-threaded or stretched. As soon as you get that initial break, you should be able to twist out using your fingers.
@@MrPabloBean that’s not always true I’ve seen new cars come in for their first oil change and the threads feel like garbage but if you remove the plug with the threads then it’s fucked.
the more I watch the more I see or hear crazy shit, the drain bucket, the guy holding the phone and his dialogue, the extreme confidence of the Main Character, and the short ass wrench lmao
Jiffy Lube cost me not one, but two oil pans. Stripping the bolts. One in my car and one in my son's car. Then the technician offered a fuel injection cleaner job for one of my cars that had a carburetor ! When I opened it up and showed him the engine he told me it was the same thing. That was my last day going to Jiffy Lube.
Shoot here at valvoline we just read off a screen 😂 I know how to do the service but I’m not gonna recommend anything and I’m not doing anything except for what the customer asks
No real mechanic would be wearing those bracelets. A few times of having oil run down your arm or getting them stuck in a tight spot you would see them as a bad idea
There's a fine line between 'tight' and jiffy lube buying you a new oil pan because over tightening leads to stripped out threads. Some pans are made of non-ferrous metals and will strip easily in the wrong hands.
I actually went to check it out and no there damn isnt (at least not for my car) My recommended torque is 35 Nn with a maximum of 110 If that line is thin, then so is the girl who made my mom go "i could be worse" when she got out of bulimia.
This isn't just over torquing, it's heat/cold expansion. They may have tightened it a bit too much, but the temperature does the rest making it feel stuck. The longer you drive before a oil change the harder it gets.
@@robwright4398 I have the same civic! How do you get that oil plug off?!! I’ve never had a plug in such an odd angle and nothing could get it off. Lol
i got an oil change at walmart once when i was a kid they misthreaded the plug, which i didn't realize until the oil light came on a few days later. good times
They did that to my car when I was a teen. My dad never taught me how to work on my cars not even basic oil change so I looked it up on UA-cam and started doing my own oil changes at 19.
Was gonna say at least a 12” ratchet would do but no. I have almost 100 ratchets I have a few from all sizes to spare, where can I mail it too (all jokes aside) Hate to see someone struggle like that.
Air ratchet would've stripped the threads out and whoever did it would have been fired I used to work at Toyota/Lexus so I do know but some service managers tell us to tighten it down so tight so jiffy lube won't touch it or the customer won't do it themselves
I think you both are thinking of air impacts. Air ratchets can’t break loose hardware on their own. They are designed to remove it faster after you break it loose manually
I agree. Most of the time you can just give the wrench a few taps with a small hammer and that will break it loose. Putting a extra bar on for leverage is a great way to round the plug off
@@daleburnfart6845 it didn’t require a breaker bar. He was clearly acting like it was to tight. He didn’t apply any force. He faked it for the video. Look around the plug. It’s already wet . So it’s obvious . Judging by how far away the catch pan was,they definitely drained the oil prior to filming this staged video shoot.
It's been a couple of decades since I was a grease monkey (not at a chain). We intentionally made new employees use undersized tools to keep them from over tightening drain plugs, check plugs, etc. That was one nice thing about that place, if somebody had an idea to make a job easier or faster they would let you go with it. Much different than the "I'm paying you to work, not to think" attitude most places have today.
Too coincidental. My boss and I were talking about care maintenance yesterday. I mentioned I needed to change my oil soon because I’m due. He said “ screw that, just pay to have it done. What are you saving ? $20-$30 ? “ I told him I prefer to do it myself, that way I can choose my own filter and oil and make sure it’s done right. He said he prefers to pay someone to do his. He’s definitely going to see this video Monday morning to solidify my point of why I like to do it myself.
On those 13mm ones I always just went straight for a shallow six point socket and a 18” long breaker bar to break them loose. Just use a wrench to tighten it back.
I actually prefer a nice 6 point wrench they like to round for some reason I hate 13 mm drain plugs but since I started using a box end wrench zero issues
Honda tech here- drain plugs are actually 30-31 lbft (check the reference sheets on iN) and I’m assuming the torque stick you’re talking about is the yellow torque wrench available through Honda tools & equipment.
I was an express tech & I always always always put the ratchet on the drain bolt, then held it with one hand, & hit my hand with my other hand to loosen drain bolts. It will ALWAYS get the bolt loose. Just a tip for anyone watching this. No need for brute strength. Just a few beats on your hand (& no it doesn’t hurt)
I used to work at a dealership in parts, and we once had an oil change "tech" who did this. Every time one of the cars he did came in for a change, we had to replace the drain plug because he tightened it so tight he made the plugs a one use item.
Here in the south every other person in my class beyond 1 other used an pneumatic air tool on every plug, when I got out of school I still saw near all techs doing this. After 5 years in industry I will never trust another person to work on my vehicle.
I change my own oil. I don't have any Mechanic experience except through UA-cam. I normally hand tighten and do a quarter turn to finish. This is sufficient, correct?
@@christophermunoz2568 If you mean with a ratchet as your finisher, yes, that is sufficient. With your oil filter, hand tight is always sufficient and nothing more.
My next door neighbor had a great big oil patch in his driveway. He said one of those lube shops striped the threads on the oil pan. That is why I do it myself.
The main reason why an oil drain plug gets stuck is due to sludge. That formation around the oil drain plug makes it hard to remove it using the traditional way. The sludge forms around the drain plug because the oil in the engine has exceeded its oil change time. The oil then tends to oxidize under high temperatures. During oxidation, the molecules of engine oil break down. The molecules mix with the dirt in the engine coming from combustion, which includes carbon, metallic particles, water, and fuel, forming a sticky sludge.
@@noodle9851 you being serious? You put a bar on an 8" 3/8“ ratchet rather than walking to the box and grabbing a longer one? How long you worked at jiffy lube?
@@tintshady2049 it’s not about jiffy lube buddy. Sometimes ur working on stuff where u don’t have access to a breaker bar. A pipe will do the same job. Every mechanic has used a pipe once weather it’s in the shop or not. Ur telling me u have never seen this done before?
I recently got into cars with no mechanical experience. I’m set on doing things myself and learning. Successfully changed my oil, all alone. Next day, my car buddy asked how it went. I explained it to him. Then understood how bad I messed up because I tightened it with an impact. Lesson learned
VW toureg VR6. Oil pan replacement requires removal of complete front subframe, control arms, suspension, and steering rack. Book Time is 18hrs I think. Lots of people have stripped them out and repaired them so many times. I’ve seen drain plug deletes with RTV and bolt.
As a lube tech at a jiffy equivalent, I've found especially on cars with 5000km who are getting the first oil change, the filters are NEVER lubed and take 40 pounds of force to remove. Same goes for drain plugs, utter brutes tighten things. I swear it's just so you have to come back to the dealer.
Also I would add that there aren't really a whole lotta techs/mechanics out there willing to teach the younger guys much, mostly because they're busy but also there are just some assholes in our industry that would rather watch a new guy mess up so they can have a laugh than walk over to the next bay and drop some wisdom...
Yep, 21 yrs under gm and I love laughing at the guys that think this is a career for them. Get em outta here. All the comebacks, mistakes, amount of time it takes when they run into a simple problem. Not to mention the money it cost the dealership service department. Stay at jiffy lube 😂
@@greatswagga3278you're part of the problem, congrats. "wow so many unexperienced people nowadays!" It's not hard to teach techs, just no one has the patience for it, cause they think their shit doesn't smell cause they can take shit apart.
@@AdvocateofOdin my dealership is full of great lube techs and move up to used cars. Even when I train them up, I stress tools. Right tool to make the job easier cause we don't get paid by the hour. Your the problem, too much bitching and complaining. That's why some techs hit 100k for the year and others struggle to make guarantee. Go cry to someone else.
First of all you're supposed to never pull towards you. If that plug breaks free you'll hit yourself right in the face. Instead, make a fist with your left hand holding a shop towel in your hand so the metal tool doesn't hurt the bone in your hand and with your right hand hit the back of your left hand really hard to brake the drain plug loose. Just a tip, I've been changing oil for 30 years now.
And smacking wrenches with the palm of my hand for many years was exactly why I needed double carpal tunnel surgeries. And then I went right out and just bought longer watches and wrenches so I wouldn't end up doing that any longer. 👍
Yeah, Jiffy Lube stripped my pan, and they stuck a rubber bushing in there that equaled 4 quarts of 5w20 on my driveway, they paid for a new oil pan installation.
Landers Buick GMC crosstreaded a lug on my truck and denied it, so I want be going back. Accountability is key when you are SUPPOSED to be the professional.
In the dealership we always rather overtighten then to not tight it enough but obviously just right is always the best. Ive had a couple comebacks where I left the drain plug loose and the oil destroyed the customers driveway. Now I never make that mistake again 😂
I was taught in school (for plumbing)... "How tight does it need to be?" "Tight enough not to leak" ...no tighter than that. That being said, in the world of oil heat service, there was one burner mechanic around here, who has passed away now, who felt the need to tighten the absolute bejesus out of everything, to the point that I'd go in for a service, try to spin off an oil filter... and it takes a 2 foot pipe wrench with a backer and you have to pop the bleeder or leave the tank valve open until you break it free so you don't blow the pump seal. "Let me guess, Lawrence was the last one who worked on this?" "How did you know??" "Because it shouldn't take a 2 foot pipe wrench to undo a filter." Overtightened fittings are now referred to as "Lawrence'd on" I was in a training course once with some people who had also worked with him in another company, the instructor started talking about the need to stop overtightening a particular screw, and everyone who had worked with/for Lawrence all started looking at each other knowingly.
I had to install a new oil pan last year after a "mechanic" installed a plug so f'n tight the crush washer was squeezed out the sides like Play Dough and so thin I could actually tear the protruding washer off with my fingers. The threads were completely trashed. All I use on my drain plugs now are Parker Fluid hydraulic washers. They're rubber encapsulated with steel, and don't need crushed. They're good to about 6000psi, so it's good.
I've had them stuck on due to material science just because the plug and pan are made of metal doesn't mean they are the same type galvanic corrosion is a thing, spark plugs for example will get stuck and galvanic corrosion is the issue, if you don't change them at the right time
Ah, the joys of the basic oil change. This video is missing the fun part, that strange drain pan arrangement. I was looking forward to the melee as that oil cascaded down several feet to its target.
I used to run a tire and lube shop and can tell you 1st hand the dealerships are just as bad if not worse than the quick lube places. I actually had a few of my guys that I was going to fire for incompetence , go to dealership to work in their lube service area. People don’t realize that a dealership oil change is rarely done by a dealer mechanic.
His is using a $40,000. Lift ,,,,and then a CRESENT wrench to remove the drain plug.....hahahahaha Master Mechanic,,,,Just Awesome !!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I worked at a dealership right after a quick lube and the dealership was worse because you have to rush as you get paid per job, the kids working at jiffy lube are hourly so they can take a little more time. I had my oil changes down to 12mins for 1500 sierras at the dealership
I worked at a dealership with a guy who would over torque every oil drain plug - to the point we had to cut the crush washer off. Everyone knew when he had done the last oil change because the extreme measures we had to use to get his drain plugs off. We yell at him to stop it but says “I never had one come back leaking.”
the actual problem is the treads are lubricated by oil during installation, and the bolt is easily over tightened especially if using a torque wrench. the wrench will give a false torque reading.... and when the lubrication dries over time, its left feeling stuck! ...as silly as it sounds, I Decontaminate my treads and bolt from ALL OIL before Reinstallation
First car I ever owned, I over torqued the drain plug...the head of the bolt broke off the drain plug. Glad my local shop was handy and got the bolt out for me.
Next up: breaking head bolts with a 1/4 inch ratchet
Was a 3/8 🙍🏿♂️ boy you slow an anybody that liked yo shit. It damn sure ain't close to or look like one
I feel insulted😂😂
I have a small kit I bought at Home Depot like 7 years ago and it is still going strong. I’m not a mechanic tho, I just do minor work like oil changes, and brakes.
1/4 inch ratchet on a oil pan bolt that is ~17mm ???
I don't think so
That's funny right there.
True but if it's properly torqued a 1/4 would be able to break it free.
Every mechanic is the smartest best mechanic they know
seems to be the case
How often does a mechanic go to another mechanic shop 🤔.
Funny how this rhetorical question bothers some of y'all.
Over torquing the oil pan plug is shade tree mechanic rule #3. Its common sense.
@@MannyAguilarJr what are you trying to say?
@@MannyAguilarJr I frequently work with the other shops out here. We are a strong small group that all have specific strengths. That is probably why there are like 5 shops that have been here 20 something years.
Literally every mechanic seeing this is thinking “you got a shorter ratchet?”
Welp thus why he used a breaker bar to accomplish the same thing as a bigger ratchet. So I ask...what's wrong with the size of this guys ratchet?
@@AS34N It's too short. You're not getting drain plugs off easily with that Jr Varsity ratchet. Use a standard length ratchet. It would make life so much easier.
Just to clarify, drain plugs usually have a copper crush washer that seals the plug to the drain pan. It's not coming off with that tiny ratchet unless you're really hanging on it.
@@Darion350 depends on the car, not all use the copper crush washer. And you should be able to get the drain plug off with that ratchet, no point in going that tight
@@AS34N Nothing is wrong with it really, but it’s more dangerous and much harder on his body.
@@agtronicsupposed to use the right tool for the job. Use a longer ratchet however he used a scaffold pole to lengthen the leverage on his ratchet! Never use a scaffold pole on a ratchet only on a breaker bar because the teeth are gonna break!
Man, don't cut it so early. We all wanted to see how much oil got on the floor.
When someone makes an oil change look dangerous, it's best they reconsider their profession.
what about audis tho :(
I dont get it
Nothing about what he said or did or anything in the video made this look dangerous. Not even remotely dangerous
@@cody7068he literally used a tube with a 3/8 small ratchet lmao . He's suppose to use a breaker bar. So yea let's start by using proper tools. And the breaker bar should be one of those tools that's a must
@@rauljrlara9994 it’s “literally” the same shit as a breaker bar at that point. It worked didn’t it?
"looks like threads are damaged" bro trynna sell her the new oil pan already
No. Drill it out, tap for the next largest size bolt up. Problem solved. Preferably off the vehicle to not send metal chips into your engine.
@@GGigabiteM Yeah that's what he would do if he was interested in saving the customer money. Doubt thats his concern, sadly. Mechanics will charge you $100 to change a fuse.
@@countersteer713 $100 to change a fuse is a deal. Fuses and relays go for highway robbery prices these days, and troubleshooting electrical gremlins is an absolute nightmare. Fuses don't blow for no reason, they have to figure out why the fuse blew so it doesn't blow again. If they don't find the problem the first time, or the problems are layered, they can easily go through $100 in fuses.
As someone who has redone wiring harnesses and done electrical gremlin hunting myself, I'd gladly pay someone else at least that much so I don't have to do it anymore.
I remember being at my buddies shop a few years back when some honda SUV rolled in. It had three cooked relays from age (points carboned up and arced out.) It also had several blown fuses. EACH relay was proprietary and only available from the dealer at almost $40 a pop once tax was added. The fuses were $5-10 a pop. Once he factored in his time, it was going to be $200+.
In my experience it's the threads on the plug that strip 9 times out of 10. I've lost count of how many times I've had to weld a nut on a stripped out drain plug.
The plug is engineered to fail before the pan. Just replace the plug
"It feels like the threads have been damaged" sounds like he's about to charge you $1,460 to replace your oil pan. 💀
$6.00 drain plug 😂
don't forget the air filters 40$ air filter and 230$ fluid flushes which are absolutely necessary. never mind that the car got that service less than 10k miles ago.
Yep, better to just leave the plug in there if it's that tight, vacuum out the oil from above
Or 8 bucks for a plug lol
@@simontist Huh?
He's quite confident about the placement of that oil drain pan on the wooden stool
Why do you think the vid cut off before it started flowing?
Looks like the drain bolts been damaged too bro stop trying hustle that customer for more money 🤦♂️🤷♂️
not the worst i seen
I wear crocs when we are overbooked, so that I get less customers.
@@e2dwf976 Lmao "try to hustle" Do you work for free bro, I need some free workers I could use around.
*Guy pretending to struggle to get the bolt off with the smallest wrench in his shop for .002 seconds
"Ah geez this must be a commonly common problem that is common"
*Gets a breaker bar, turning it into a normal size wrench, and removes it
"Ah man thats damage. Theres damage there. I felt it through the breaker bar and wrench. Ah geez the damage"
Bill: $17.38 parts $12,895 labor
I've worked at dealerships and the techs on the express lane basically have the same mechanical experience that the jiffy lube techs have.
As a dealership tech I will say sometimes you get them people that over tighten stuff but on another note get a longer ratchet 😂😂
that was my first thought, I always use my big 3/8 ratchet on drain plugs but never the 1/2 inch
@@theedslanky1235 1/2 inch works perfectly fine
@@theedslanky1235 I usually break em with a 1/2 inch
Or you know, use a breaker bar. Something that's meant to take off tight bolts and nuts. Then finish up with the ratchet.
@@yamipizza8357 it's still tighter than it should have been regardless of what tool we use
My mother has a Rav 4 that every single oil change has been at the dealership it was bought at. About two years ago the service tech came and said that someone had stripped out the oil drain plug and they'd have to replace the pan.
She told them to look at their records and they realized that she'd been there every single 5,000 miles so it had to have been them so they replaced it for free lol. So yeah dealerships do it to.
Lmao, perks of spends ng a little extra at the dealership lol
Same experience with 2021 Highlander. The oil filter was on so tight that the plastic housing tab broke. I replaced the housing with an aluminum one.
Plugs are softer than pans so pan threads will survive. If they say the pan is striped they are lying or stupid.
@@MintyFreshTurds No, pans have been aluminum with steel plugs for many vehicles since the 90s. Now they are often plastic. Super easy to tell an aluminum from steel. Aluminum ones have a web of reinforcement.
@@Cragified Oh yeah, sorry there's only the Stinger that I do sometimes I work at Kia. I use a torque wrench on that one because I can't feel it tightening up. All the others have steel pans. I would also like to add that aluminum and plastic pans are bare, steel pans are painted is an easier identifier.
He cut the video short cause that oil just went everywhere lol
"It feels like the threads.. have been damaged" 😂😂 mad bs lol
Not necessarily. Notice he has to use the ratchet the whole time? That means the threads have been cross-threaded or stretched. As soon as you get that initial break, you should be able to twist out using your fingers.
@@MrPabloBean that’s not always true I’ve seen new cars come in for their first oil change and the threads feel like garbage but if you remove the plug with the threads then it’s fucked.
Threads were definitely stretched on this one
I can see this guys boss coming back yelling at him to get back to his mop bucket and then apologizing to the customer
LMAO 😂😂
He cut it right before he made a huge mess with the drain pan so far away.
Not necessarily on a hot engine
@@JDuBz815 Probably isn't hot after homo dufus here tried taking the bolt off with his hyper tough ratchet for the last 30 mins.
@@domenik8339 engines stay hot for hours depending on the outside temperature
This guy is a joke. Poor girl should probably go back to an actual shop, not her dumb cousin.
6 inch ratchet and squatting under the lift. Real genius on our hands here
He has an oil pan on a stool, it’d be a lot hard to get the oil into that pan of the vehicle is higher…
😂😂
If that's what this guy is, what am I for doing it on the ground with vice grips???
@@brucedavidson7422 Bro, real professionals use height-adjustable fluid receptacles - this guy is running a clown show with the stool
As a 6’5” mechanic I can confirm lifts and pits are only meant for short people
That looks like a sketchy shop to get your oil changed at
and thats why crime is up because u only feed corpations
I've never seen a "mechanic" with such clean hands 😂
I wear gloves so I don't have to wash my hands everything I need to get in a vehicle.
the more I watch the more I see or hear crazy shit, the drain bucket, the guy holding the phone and his dialogue, the extreme confidence of the Main Character, and the short ass wrench lmao
HAHA!
Bro you got that haircut at the dealer.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And just like the warranty - not everything is covered.
dudes clearly a queer redditor
This is a funny comment
LMAO
20 year mechanic here , I'm lost for words ...
Maybe if you get a smaller wrench it’ll work getting it off!
makes no sense
@@gearheadautosolutions I think it was sarcasm 🤔
Smaller it is the confident you are! oops that sound not right.
Small brain. This wasn’t sarcasm. You can see the confidence in us comment
Old power stoke buddy doesn't realize it's a wrachet, not a wrench. I bet he got the smaller WRENCH to try 😄
Jiffy Lube cost me not one, but two oil pans. Stripping the bolts. One in my car and one in my son's car. Then the technician offered a fuel injection cleaner job for one of my cars that had a carburetor ! When I opened it up and showed him the engine he told me it was the same thing. That was my last day going to Jiffy Lube.
Shoot here at valvoline we just read off a screen 😂 I know how to do the service but I’m not gonna recommend anything and I’m not doing anything except for what the customer asks
I work at Jiffylube and we use a torque wrench and set them to proper torque
No real mechanic would be wearing those bracelets. A few times of having oil run down your arm or getting them stuck in a tight spot you would see them as a bad idea
He's a fairy
He just a lube tech doesnt do any real work 😂
Bosses kid wore a smart watch of some kind. That only lasted a couple days
Can’t even get tattoos on my wrists or arms cause they’ll just be ruined after a week or two
Agreed. IT is dumb and safety hazard especially if dealing with electrical! Zap & you're in back of ambulance ⚡️
Someone tell that Service Writer to get the hell out of the shop and learn a different way to upsale.
Bro this shit made me laugh so fucking hard
jiffy lube guy uses cheater bar on 1/4" ratchet
There's a fine line between 'tight' and jiffy lube buying you a new oil pan because over tightening leads to stripped out threads. Some pans are made of non-ferrous metals and will strip easily in the wrong hands.
I actually went to check it out and no there damn isnt (at least not for my car)
My recommended torque is 35 Nn with a maximum of 110
If that line is thin, then so is the girl who made my mom go "i could be worse" when she got out of bulimia.
This isn't just over torquing, it's heat/cold expansion.
They may have tightened it a bit too much, but the temperature does the rest making it feel stuck. The longer you drive before a oil change the harder it gets.
That doesnt sell new parts as well as the good mechanic bad mechanic routine tho
this is exactly why I do my own oil changes
EXACTLY!
Yup. Could never have another clown fckn around under my car. That's my job
Me too, 08 civic with 215k and original oil plug and washer
@@robwright4398 I have the same civic! How do you get that oil plug off?!! I’ve never had a plug in such an odd angle and nothing could get it off. Lol
@@robwright4398 Original oil plug, sounds like a humdinger🙂
Man's got the shortest rachet he could get lmao
That's a standard ratchet kiddo
@@binkleyme and still the shortest he could find kiddo. Should've used a longer ratchet instead of bitching kiddo
He identifies as a mechanic
😂
😅😅 underrated comment
When the advisors come back trying to act like they work on cars
i got an oil change at walmart once when i was a kid
they misthreaded the plug, which i didn't realize until the oil light came on a few days later. good times
Yea they did the same on my mom's old piece of shit Chevy aveo.
They did that to my car when I was a teen. My dad never taught me how to work on my cars not even basic oil change so I looked it up on UA-cam and started doing my own oil changes at 19.
Nice 6 inch ratchet. Get yourself a decent ratchet and give Fred flinstone back his craftsman
Was gonna say at least a 12” ratchet would do but no. I have almost 100 ratchets I have a few from all sizes to spare, where can I mail it too (all jokes aside) Hate to see someone struggle like that.
Or a breaker bar😂
Why are you hating on craftsman? If you knew then you’d know you should be using a breaker bar.
@@rudysalas9138 let me guess, you’re the lead lube tech at tires plus?
@@DankFights negative, I’m a DIY guy who makes you mechanics look like rookies
The Lexus dealership did this to me with their air compressed ratchet, I went in for an airbag recall lol
Air ratchet would've stripped the threads out and whoever did it would have been fired I used to work at Toyota/Lexus so I do know but some service managers tell us to tighten it down so tight so jiffy lube won't touch it or the customer won't do it themselves
I think you both are thinking of air impacts. Air ratchets can’t break loose hardware on their own. They are designed to remove it faster after you break it loose manually
I guarantee as a dealer tech, during an airbag recall nobody lifted your vehicle, wasted their time, and overtorqued your drain plug for no reason.
@@BirdwellingtonAmalgamation agreed, we’ve have takata airbag recalls like most other brands and the car is never raised
@@BirdwellingtonAmalgamation sounds like you manage every dealership team in the US. Congrats.
Ma’am, it’s gonna cost 284 bucks to repair these damaged threads haha jk
BUT I did get you a new bolt, specifically from my misc. bolt drawer, gonna have to charge ya 5$ for that
Not jk
LOL!!! lovin all the sarcasm and passive aggressive comments!The funny thing is, they’re right! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And that's why I change my own oil.
I'm sorry what? What'd he do that was so wrong? He literally just removed the drain plug.
@YvngCheese He didn't do anything wrong. It was the previous oil change "tech" who overtorqued the drain plug to whom I was referring.
Tapping the wrench probably would have worked.
The man who reached for the tiny ratchet while proper tools were a foot away is not smart enough to think of that.
I agree. Most of the time you can just give the wrench a few taps with a small hammer and that will break it loose. Putting a extra bar on for leverage is a great way to round the plug off
Judging off everything else in this video he was probably using a 12pt socket as well lol
Look at his hands there to soft 😂😂
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This guy is an Oscar worthy performer.
No oil pan plug should require a breaker bar.
@@daleburnfart6845 it didn’t require a breaker bar. He was clearly acting like it was to tight. He didn’t apply any force. He faked it for the video.
Look around the plug. It’s already wet . So it’s obvious .
Judging by how far away the catch pan was,they definitely drained the oil prior to filming this staged video shoot.
Yeah this guy sucks. Who straightens their arms to get more leverage.
It's been a couple of decades since I was a grease monkey (not at a chain). We intentionally made new employees use undersized tools to keep them from over tightening drain plugs, check plugs, etc.
That was one nice thing about that place, if somebody had an idea to make a job easier or faster they would let you go with it. Much different than the "I'm paying you to work, not to think" attitude most places have today.
Too coincidental. My boss and I were talking about care maintenance yesterday. I mentioned I needed to change my oil soon because I’m due. He said “ screw that, just pay to have it done. What are you saving ? $20-$30 ? “ I told him I prefer to do it myself, that way I can choose my own filter and oil and make sure it’s done right. He said he prefers to pay someone to do his. He’s definitely going to see this video Monday morning to solidify my point of why I like to do it myself.
On those 13mm ones I always just went straight for a shallow six point socket and a 18” long breaker bar to break them loose. Just use a wrench to tighten it back.
I actually prefer a nice 6 point wrench they like to round for some reason I hate 13 mm drain plugs but since I started using a box end wrench zero issues
At Honda we use torque sticks that are preset and color coded. The oil pan drain bolt is 16lbs at Honda.
You know torque sticks arent accurate at all right?
Bruh is using a fucking impact and a goddamn torque stick to put drain bolts in holy shit 😂😂
Honda tech here- drain plugs are actually 30-31 lbft (check the reference sheets on iN) and I’m assuming the torque stick you’re talking about is the yellow torque wrench available through Honda tools & equipment.
16 is wrong for hondas
Hey bud, might as well grab a 1/4 drive ratchet next time. Everything seems tight with a 4” ratchet.
Nut driver 😂
It's an oil pan drain bolt lol
@@cefb8923 truly an outstanding observation.
Lube tech: "Dammit, I am out of new drain plug sealing washers. What do I do?"
Boss tech: "Toooooooooorque."
😂😂😂
I was an express tech & I always always always put the ratchet on the drain bolt, then held it with one hand, & hit my hand with my other hand to loosen drain bolts. It will ALWAYS get the bolt loose. Just a tip for anyone watching this. No need for brute strength. Just a few beats on your hand (& no it doesn’t hurt)
That’s a sweet coolant pan and barstool setup there….
Honestly that didn't look too bad for drain plug. I've had oil filters so tight I have to put pipe on the filter wrench lol.
I used to work at a dealership in parts, and we once had an oil change "tech" who did this. Every time one of the cars he did came in for a change, we had to replace the drain plug because he tightened it so tight he made the plugs a one use item.
How many helicoil kits did this guys use lol?
No one thought to tell him not to do that?
Here in the south every other person in my class beyond 1 other used an pneumatic air tool on every plug, when I got out of school I still saw near all techs doing this. After 5 years in industry I will never trust another person to work on my vehicle.
I change my own oil. I don't have any Mechanic experience except through UA-cam. I normally hand tighten and do a quarter turn to finish. This is sufficient, correct?
@@christophermunoz2568 If you mean with a ratchet as your finisher, yes, that is sufficient. With your oil filter, hand tight is always sufficient and nothing more.
My next door neighbor had a great big oil patch in his driveway. He said one of those lube shops striped the threads on the oil pan. That is why I do it myself.
“I think the threads are messed up” he wants to score a pan replacement 😂
Imagine if you changed your own oil
Ppl are lazy
Hammer fist, never fails
Literally 3 pops with a rubber mallet. My favorite tool ever lol
Exactly. Smack your palm on it and its loose. Less likely to strip with soft metal drain plugs.
I like to hit with my palm
I just use my fingers to manually unscrew the bolt. Works every time and no damage to the bolt or threads.
The real ones know 👊
I’ve been laying bricks and blocks for thirty yrs and I know better then to do that😂
I'm sure
Carry on laying your bricks lool
@@stanielsoncoochiesmellehsm6114 shut up poop stain. Go back to yo mamas basement 😂
The main reason why an oil drain plug gets stuck is due to sludge. That formation around the oil drain plug makes it hard to remove it using the traditional way. The sludge forms around the drain plug because the oil in the engine has exceeded its oil change time. The oil then tends to oxidize under high temperatures. During oxidation, the molecules of engine oil break down. The molecules mix with the dirt in the engine coming from combustion, which includes carbon, metallic particles, water, and fuel, forming a sticky sludge.
That was the new oil change kid who learned it from a "good friend"
Use your purse, it might help!
That's fucking hilarious,😂😂😂😂
That was the saddest little breaker bar I've ever seen
Sad? How? Every real mechanic has had to use a pipe to break a bolt.
@@noodle9851 you being serious? You put a bar on an 8" 3/8“ ratchet rather than walking to the box and grabbing a longer one? How long you worked at jiffy lube?
@@tintshady2049 it’s not about jiffy lube buddy. Sometimes ur working on stuff where u don’t have access to a breaker bar. A pipe will do the same job. Every mechanic has used a pipe once weather it’s in the shop or not. Ur telling me u have never seen this done before?
@@noodle9851 you're missing the point, short bus...you don't put a 12" pipe on an 8" ratchet...you walk to your box and grab your 12-18" ratchet
I recently got into cars with no mechanical experience. I’m set on doing things myself and learning. Successfully changed my oil, all alone. Next day, my car buddy asked how it went. I explained it to him. Then understood how bad I messed up because I tightened it with an impact. Lesson learned
some of the best lessons are learned when mistakes happen. it sucks at the time but you'll always remember what not to do next time.
Cars aren't near as hard as techs want you to believe, just keep at it, mistakes happen. It'll feel much better knowing you did it yourself
What was wrong? At the oil change shop I work at we tighten all drain plugs with glue and an electric impact.
@@ch26-z9wYea if all you're doing is hanging parts it's not difficult lol
VW toureg VR6. Oil pan replacement requires removal of complete front subframe, control arms, suspension, and steering rack. Book Time is 18hrs I think. Lots of people have stripped them out and repaired them so many times. I’ve seen drain plug deletes with RTV and bolt.
As a lube tech at a jiffy equivalent, I've found especially on cars with 5000km who are getting the first oil change, the filters are NEVER lubed and take 40 pounds of force to remove. Same goes for drain plugs, utter brutes tighten things. I swear it's just so you have to come back to the dealer.
Never seen a more professional mechanic
Nobody doing this daily wears what he has on 😂😂😂
actually.......
Idk you can stay pretty clean working on a host
Also I would add that there aren't really a whole lotta techs/mechanics out there willing to teach the younger guys much, mostly because they're busy but also there are just some assholes in our industry that would rather watch a new guy mess up so they can have a laugh than walk over to the next bay and drop some wisdom...
Yep, 21 yrs under gm and I love laughing at the guys that think this is a career for them. Get em outta here. All the comebacks, mistakes, amount of time it takes when they run into a simple problem. Not to mention the money it cost the dealership service department. Stay at jiffy lube 😂
@@greatswagga3278you're part of the problem, congrats. "wow so many unexperienced people nowadays!" It's not hard to teach techs, just no one has the patience for it, cause they think their shit doesn't smell cause they can take shit apart.
@@AdvocateofOdin my dealership is full of great lube techs and move up to used cars. Even when I train them up, I stress tools. Right tool to make the job easier cause we don't get paid by the hour. Your the problem, too much bitching and complaining. That's why some techs hit 100k for the year and others struggle to make guarantee. Go cry to someone else.
First of all you're supposed to never pull towards you. If that plug breaks free you'll hit yourself right in the face. Instead, make a fist with your left hand holding a shop towel in your hand so the metal tool doesn't hurt the bone in your hand and with your right hand hit the back of your left hand really hard to brake the drain plug loose. Just a tip, I've been changing oil for 30 years now.
All you have to do is smack the ratchet with the palm of your hand and it’ll break loose. That’s how I crack just about every drain plug loose.
Yep but I use a wrench, put it back on the same way
You think that would work on a drain plug that’s been tightened with an air drill
@@jakethemusstard8242yea it would. “Air drill”
And smacking wrenches with the palm of my hand for many years was exactly why I needed double carpal tunnel surgeries. And then I went right out and just bought longer watches and wrenches so I wouldn't end up doing that any longer. 👍
I’m not a mechanic
I change maybe oil 3 times a month.
Keep the wife’s mail car running
Was that the 7-8” craftsman china ratchet?
So surprised that such a short ratchet didn’t have the leverage to break that loose. 🤕
Are you test driving English out?
Well it's tighten to 14 uka dukas
@@niclikescakes What part of what they said is giving you a hard time?
As a former dealer mechanic, i can confirm that separating dealer techs from jiffy techs is like sorting out the "M"s from the "W"s in the M&M bag.
I never torque my oil bolt. I just do it to where it snug. Never leaks. Never have a problem.
You literally over torqued the nut yourself.. better just take it to the dealership and not hill billy a few blocks down 😂
Just do it yourself
Yeah, Jiffy Lube stripped my pan, and they stuck a rubber bushing in there that equaled 4 quarts of 5w20 on my driveway, they paid for a new oil pan installation.
Landers Buick GMC crosstreaded a lug on my truck and denied it, so I want be going back. Accountability is key when you are SUPPOSED to be the professional.
In the dealership we always rather overtighten then to not tight it enough but obviously just right is always the best. Ive had a couple comebacks where I left the drain plug loose and the oil destroyed the customers driveway. Now I never make that mistake again 😂
I was taught in school (for plumbing)...
"How tight does it need to be?"
"Tight enough not to leak"
...no tighter than that.
That being said, in the world of oil heat service, there was one burner mechanic around here, who has passed away now, who felt the need to tighten the absolute bejesus out of everything, to the point that I'd go in for a service, try to spin off an oil filter... and it takes a 2 foot pipe wrench with a backer and you have to pop the bleeder or leave the tank valve open until you break it free so you don't blow the pump seal.
"Let me guess, Lawrence was the last one who worked on this?"
"How did you know??"
"Because it shouldn't take a 2 foot pipe wrench to undo a filter."
Overtightened fittings are now referred to as "Lawrence'd on"
I was in a training course once with some people who had also worked with him in another company, the instructor started talking about the need to stop overtightening a particular screw, and everyone who had worked with/for Lawrence all started looking at each other knowingly.
I had to install a new oil pan last year after a "mechanic" installed a plug so f'n tight the crush washer was squeezed out the sides like Play Dough and so thin I could actually tear the protruding washer off with my fingers. The threads were completely trashed. All I use on my drain plugs now are Parker Fluid hydraulic washers. They're rubber encapsulated with steel, and don't need crushed. They're good to about 6000psi, so it's good.
I've had them stuck on due to material science just because the plug and pan are made of metal doesn't mean they are the same type galvanic corrosion is a thing, spark plugs for example will get stuck and galvanic corrosion is the issue, if you don't change them at the right time
this is like one of those "the more you watch, the worst it gets"
Ah, the joys of the basic oil change. This video is missing the fun part, that strange drain pan arrangement. I was looking forward to the melee as that oil cascaded down several feet to its target.
"it's overtight!" dude, i've seen properly torqued bolts come back tighter than you'd expect. the sealing washers are doing their job
I used to run a tire and lube shop and can tell you 1st hand the dealerships are just as bad if not worse than the quick lube places. I actually had a few of my guys that I was going to fire for incompetence , go to dealership to work in their lube service area. People don’t realize that a dealership oil change is rarely done by a dealer mechanic.
His is using a $40,000. Lift ,,,,and then a CRESENT wrench to remove the drain plug.....hahahahaha Master Mechanic,,,,Just Awesome !!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Same goes for oil filters, both canister and cartridge. They have gaskets and o-rings for compression sealing with only a light torquing!!!
I worked at a dealership right after a quick lube and the dealership was worse because you have to rush as you get paid per job, the kids working at jiffy lube are hourly so they can take a little more time. I had my oil changes down to 12mins for 1500 sierras at the dealership
I worked at a dealership with a guy who would over torque every oil drain plug - to the point we had to cut the crush washer off. Everyone knew when he had done the last oil change because the extreme measures we had to use to get his drain plugs off. We yell at him to stop it but says “I never had one come back leaking.”
a set of mountain wrenches fixed this for me lol.
I changed the oil for my sister in law on a Honda Pilot that was previously done at the dealership. Breakaway torque was 95 ft/lb...
the actual problem is the treads are lubricated by oil during installation, and the bolt is easily over tightened especially if using a torque wrench. the wrench will give a false torque reading.... and when the lubrication dries over time, its left feeling stuck!
...as silly as it sounds, I Decontaminate my treads and bolt from ALL OIL before Reinstallation
They over torque wheel nuts also. It makes it impossible to put on a spare tire. But at least you can put anti-seize on the lugs ahead of time.
Hit the ratchet with your hand dude lol
First car I ever owned, I over torqued the drain plug...the head of the bolt broke off the drain plug. Glad my local shop was handy and got the bolt out for me.
I now work at a dealership, and we got torque wrenches pre set to a certain ft/lb for both drain plugs and oil filters
Dudes using the smallest rachet known to man then goes and gets the jack handle as a breaker bar 'yea the dealership messed your stuff up bad'
It’s not the “mom and pop shop” or the “dealership”. 100% , it’s the technician working on the vehicle.
I work at a local 15 min oil change shop, we torque all drain plugs to proper specs with a torque wrench the amount that come in like this is insane
I worked at. Jiffy Lube and we always used correct torque spec for the drain plug and other bolts