How Arsenal EVOLVED Declan Rice To Beat Man United

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  • @stevencorscadden5767
    @stevencorscadden5767 Рік тому +197

    Declan rice took up the same position at every corner. Man utd never marked him because they were stacking zonal at the front post. Arsenal noticed and in the 2nd half they started putting players as blockers between utd defenders and rice so he had space. Paid off in the 96th min. Credit tifo

    • @stephenrobinson8244
      @stephenrobinson8244 Рік тому +7

      See you watched MOTD 👊

    • @lindilebangose7667
      @lindilebangose7667 Рік тому

      😁 the dudes are astute in their analysis @@stephenrobinson8244

    • @lindilebangose7667
      @lindilebangose7667 Рік тому

      @jamesmccaul2945 when has this ever been a rule? There's always been blockers in every team sport. They are not fouling them, they are holding them, they are just forcing them back by making runs into the 6 yard when the ball is played.

    • @nassirtwaha3750
      @nassirtwaha3750 Рік тому

      Great observation n analysis. I did not realise it

    • @HennySee-bd5bq
      @HennySee-bd5bq Рік тому +1

      Literally lol.
      This guys doing a bit much to explain it.

  • @jammflint84
    @jammflint84 Рік тому +28

    Also I had my doubts on Vieira but both times he’s come off the bench he’s made an impact. I am begging for him to get a run of games after the international break.

    • @milksummoree6575
      @milksummoree6575 Рік тому +5

      Viera is always impactful coming from the bench. But if its starting a match ill start havertz over him for physicality and height

    • @tommysawyer9680
      @tommysawyer9680 Рік тому +2

      I was the same. I thought he was too weak without the technical ability to make up for it. I didn't think he was anywhere near the level.
      but the past 2 games he's changed my opinion.
      I hope he keeps progressing

    • @geraltnroach
      @geraltnroach Рік тому

      Excited to see him starter in cup match

  • @lindilebangose7667
    @lindilebangose7667 Рік тому +8

    Great player, who is changing his game at the age of 24 and doing it at such a rapid pace. He will get better in the final third, that final ball is not there, maybe as he nurtures that chemistry with his peers his vision will improve as he will know which positions they like to take up in different phases of the game.
    Southgate must be loving this. This also improves his squads offensive ability as the duo of Rice and Bellingham might become unplayable (already difficult to play against).

  • @cellyszn20
    @cellyszn20 Рік тому +6

    9:15 this is why the Partey inverting to DM or signing of Timber makes sense and for those that don't know about Partey he done this role with Athletico where he would invert to cover Saul

  • @AyaGumede
    @AyaGumede Рік тому +10

    Great video, you can clearly notice this analysis was done without any emotional bias. You actually rewatched the game

  • @simonmarie83
    @simonmarie83 Рік тому +1

    I used to buy FourFourTwo 20 years ago. That and EDGE magazine were the top tier magazines back when I was still buying magazines.

  • @kevinrod14
    @kevinrod14 Рік тому +45

    He was just at the right end of the cross & got a good enough deflection. GABRIEL JESUS’ goal was the one! 😮‍💨 how he sent the defender sliding pst him.

    • @reissjohnson72
      @reissjohnson72 Рік тому +10

      So impressive against Evans and maguire

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 Рік тому +6

      He did excellently to bring it down and get a good shot on target which gave him a chance. And it was the goal that won the game, Jesus gets that opportunity cos United are chasing it after Rice’s goal

    • @Man12thThe
      @Man12thThe Рік тому +1

      @@reissjohnson72 goal is goal

    • @Dercudez
      @Dercudez Рік тому +7

      @@reissjohnson72 Dalot was the one who got sent by Jesus' fake shot

    • @ELCNUmorFnaMehT
      @ELCNUmorFnaMehT Рік тому +2

      Rumour has it Dalot is still sliding through North London

  • @Chigz10
    @Chigz10 Рік тому +35

    For Man United’s goal Rice wasn’t in that position cos he pressed high and it led to Arsenal getting the ball so I think he did what he’s supposed to do, Havertz just gave the ball away badly

    • @AyaGumede
      @AyaGumede Рік тому +4

      Like how Saka did when Partey bombed forward?

    • @diegomurua4798
      @diegomurua4798 Рік тому

      ​@@AyaGumedesaka in this moment of time is miles clear of havertz in the importance and skill department, hopefully havertz gets into form like xhaka but we need to play vieira more often

    • @AyaGumede
      @AyaGumede Рік тому +3

      @@diegomurua4798 Just pointing out how overly emotional us fans get. I remember fans slating Odegaard because we didn't get Maddison, then it was Ben White because we loaned out Saliba, , then us keeping Xhaka, and then it was Fabio Vieira last season. I'm just holding my judgement on any player Arteta buys for at least a season for them, to settle

  • @RomaInvicta202
    @RomaInvicta202 Рік тому +1

    Adam's explanations work for me like no one else's Thanks, mate

  • @juggernaut2035
    @juggernaut2035 Рік тому +23

    We're just 4 games in, Rice is going to get better.... and Hazertz can't actually get much worse so by default he gets better, or plays less and less.

    • @ApArsenal
      @ApArsenal Рік тому +1

      Lol, I like that approach. Either Havertz gets better or plays less.
      However, Arteta is very adamant, he shoehorned Willian for one full season despite signs that he wasn't doing good. That's my only reservation on Havertz.😢

    • @007feck
      @007feck Рік тому +2

      I think Arteta gave Willian about 8-10 games and then he was benched - for Saka (who never looked back!).

    • @syedasadhaider4677
      @syedasadhaider4677 3 місяці тому +1

      can assure havertz got better

  • @j0fiz986
    @j0fiz986 Рік тому +12

    We forget Rice plays the entire game doing not only his job as a cdm but also he does Havertz’s job too. Whilst Havertz is on holiday on the pitch, rice is doing all the work

  • @jordantaylor1117
    @jordantaylor1117 Рік тому +2

    Declan is the Xhaka upgrade, not Havertz. Let White play RB, let Partey stay at the 6. That's the magic formula

  • @naveenraramparambil7819
    @naveenraramparambil7819 Рік тому +12

    Chelsea fan here, Rice is World class player, he knows where is dangerous

  • @halfeatengamer3400
    @halfeatengamer3400 Рік тому +2

    People are acting like he wasn't already doing this shit for West Ham. Now that he's done it in an important game against United, suddenly all of the praise is being put on Arteta and Arsenal.

    • @LTC366
      @LTC366 Рік тому +1

      That's true. I remember hearing other fans saying he's not that kind of player

  • @CROSSNSHOOT
    @CROSSNSHOOT Рік тому +13

    Get Partey next to him with Odegaard in front and Arsenal will be hard to break

  • @MrHotSpice100
    @MrHotSpice100 Рік тому +20

    Just need Partey and Rice in the middle honestly .. answers so many problems .. Havertz ain’t it unless he grows a pair

  • @fleshmaster5685
    @fleshmaster5685 Рік тому +7

    I really like his athleticism

  • @Nickubus99
    @Nickubus99 Рік тому

    Rice could be like prime Alex Song with another solid season under his belt.

  • @jammflint84
    @jammflint84 Рік тому +3

    Arteta and the coaches are evolving his game way beyond what I thought was possible. Rice deserves more credit, he is humble and has the personality to be the arsenal captain for many years to come. He is arsenal.

    • @Victor-wp5jl
      @Victor-wp5jl Рік тому

      Stop disrespecting Odeegard by suggesting Rice will be captain. Maybe if Odeegard leaves but for now leave it.

    • @jammflint84
      @jammflint84 Рік тому

      @@Victor-wp5jl Cry more ✊

  • @lewistron123
    @lewistron123 Рік тому +12

    top notch vid as always (I havent watched it)

    • @FourFourTwo
      @FourFourTwo  Рік тому +5

      Perfect comment, no notes.

    • @rhule008
      @rhule008 Рік тому

      ​@@FourFourTwowhy didn't you review the role he played in the Community shield game vs City ? He played in the Xhaka box to box role in that game

  • @troidsken
    @troidsken 7 місяців тому

    9:47 Me coming back to this video for the second time and smiling at the statement

  • @kuziva2100
    @kuziva2100 Рік тому

    Opportunity meets preparation = result.

  • @aaronwilson7947
    @aaronwilson7947 Рік тому +1

    He did this at west ham

  • @TayoSolana
    @TayoSolana Рік тому

    Partey and Rice double pivot will me madness

  • @mkram2154
    @mkram2154 Рік тому +1

    Basically, Arteta is moulding Declan Rice into Patrick Vieira.

  • @donnsniipesz
    @donnsniipesz Рік тому +3

    If Arsenal want the best out of Rice and Partey they need to be in a joint pivot of a 4-2-1-3. Havertz clearly doesn’t quite cut it yet so he should be an understudy for Ødegaard plus if Zinchenko inverts it’ll be a 3-3-1-3 similar to the Ajax model and if we can play like that plus the usual 4-3-3 I reckon we could win a big title this year (if everybody) stays injury free from now on

  • @bbhbbh159able
    @bbhbbh159able Рік тому

    Any idea when will the Declan Rice interview coming out?

  • @aaronwilson7947
    @aaronwilson7947 Рік тому +1

    He was apparently overated at west ham but now hes at a greedy six club hes now world class 😂

    • @ScyzorykPolak18
      @ScyzorykPolak18 Рік тому

      To be fair he was. He isn’t as great defensively as they make him out to be, he will make a tackle occasionally or make a pass, but by and large he’s massively overrated.

    • @Nickubus99
      @Nickubus99 Рік тому

      @@ScyzorykPolak18 Quickest way to find out if someone knows very little about football is to see if they call players like Rice "massively overrated". You should stick to playing FIFA, let the big boys talk about football.

    • @ScyzorykPolak18
      @ScyzorykPolak18 Рік тому

      @@Nickubus99 the lad isn’t worth 100 million. Am I glad they got that for him? Absolutely, but he’s worth 60 million. Bellingham is miles a better player overall. And he transferred for less. A more complete player, at a younger age. Rice wouldn’t be rated this highly if he was still playing for Ireland and you’re having a laugh if you say otherwise.

  • @itswxnted4814
    @itswxnted4814 Рік тому

    People who say he only passes backwards and sideways have 0 ball knowledge and don’t actually watch games

  • @Honest_John
    @Honest_John Рік тому +6

    He defend
    He attack
    He also advertises yogurty snack
    I hit subscribe as soon as I heard this

  • @SongMingAng
    @SongMingAng Рік тому

    'Evolve' is an intransitive verb, mate! Arsenal literally can't evolve Rice; Rice has evolved at Arsenal.

  • @ToddParker
    @ToddParker Рік тому

    good analysis, but incomplete. Teaching transitions between phases properly tells the story about both Declan Rice and Kai Havertz, but staying on topic just look at the pass map you brought up to see what I mean. Declan has strong pass map numbers in the traditional 6 area in phase 1 and 2 of the build up from defensive third to middle third because he joins the center backs and plays alongside Zinchenko in a double pivot early. Then when Arsenal progress the ball and play past the pressure the Argentinian box midfield rotates into a diamond and so Declan moves into #8 positions--he very clearly rotates into the left 8 position almost exclusively. He can do this because Arsenal typically will target their wingers as a release and Rice personally has endless stamina and so he offers front footed #8 play with #6 recovery. The real story is that Arteta has changed to a diamond midfield to play higher and he can do that with Declan being able to transition between 2 positions (#6 and #8) in both defensive and attacking phases. On another note, Rice not being in the traditional #6 is NOT why Arsenal gave up that goal exclusively as they are taught rotations based on queues where other players are going. In this situation right backs and left backs will typically invert. So why did they do this? It is game to game. ETH had Man United clearly defending in a low block and time wasting all game; such is the fear that Arsenal create nowadays evidently - as if Man United's expensive assembly of players should be playing like they are peak Blackburn and Sam Allardyce is their gaffer. So Arteta's system is designed to put an extra attacker higher when Arsenal face low blocks and that is what they are doing. White or Zinchenko should have been inverting here, I would have to look at the tape to understand why they are not. Rice is where he is supposed to be.

  • @Zukhan00
    @Zukhan00 Рік тому

    Rice would often get forward for West Ham and pop up in wide areas on the pitch. I don't think putting Rice on the back post was any evolution for him as a player. He can carry the ball from deep, take on a player, get past AND play the ball. But I guess once he does that for Arsenal, it'll be another side of his game that Arteta got out of him!
    Let's all just pretend that Rice didn't cost over £100m and had all this in his locker already.

  • @skyjuice11
    @skyjuice11 Рік тому +4

    All over the internet its about Rice scoring. As an arsenal fan i think he is just lucky the ball got deflected. Gariel Jesus goal is much more compose and deserve all the praise. Plus Viera assisting him shows that if Haverts still playing, that last goal wont happen

    • @Qlicky
      @Qlicky Рік тому +3

      Did you not watch/hear anything the dude said in the video and just started typing your comment?
      In summary, Rice goal was just a cherry on top on his overall performance. Even without the goal, he was the best player on the field.

    • @skyjuice11
      @skyjuice11 Рік тому +1

      @@Qlicky did u watch how he play againts fulham? He cant anticipate his team mate pass

    • @Qlicky
      @Qlicky Рік тому +1

      @@skyjuice11 Yeah, did you?
      Because you dont sound like you did.

    • @skyjuice11
      @skyjuice11 Рік тому

      @@Qlicky my bad. Was referring to haverts 😅

  • @HungryEatNow
    @HungryEatNow Рік тому

    To be honest VAR was the motm

  • @ln5747
    @ln5747 Рік тому

    He said after the game his favourite position as at 6

  • @raytango6567
    @raytango6567 Рік тому +1

    I believe that having Timber instead of zinchenko will make Rice play even better as a lone 6

    • @trinigooner8865
      @trinigooner8865 Рік тому +1

      Timber is actually a right back mate! The best version of Arsenal will have Timber AND Zinchenko on the field!

    • @kwayvldn3682
      @kwayvldn3682 Рік тому

      @@trinigooner88652 inverting FBs?

  • @MrOlympuse410
    @MrOlympuse410 Рік тому +1

    ??? he's done this kind of thing at west ham too. I hate this culture of players only being deemed good enough once they go to the sky six, it's a kneejerk reaction after a deflected winner

  • @daviddredge1178
    @daviddredge1178 Рік тому

    This is all very clever but the fact is that Arsenal scraped by the win.

  • @jordandavis3867
    @jordandavis3867 Рік тому

    Ben White was at fault for United's goal.....all he had to do was time the pass and lunge in to stop it going through to Rashford. There wasn't even any real pace on the ball and it wasn't a one touch pass.

  • @carygonzalez596
    @carygonzalez596 Рік тому

    Umm the most effective tactic is Maguire go in to the pitch...

  • @theo865
    @theo865 Рік тому +17

    I like most of your videos but this is just wrong. Rice was a hige attacking influence for us, especially last year. Saying arsenal 'evovled' him is just standard big 6 bias

    • @omyga2062
      @omyga2062 Рік тому +6

      Noone watches ur games bud so they wouldn't know anyway

    • @AyaGumede
      @AyaGumede Рік тому +1

      ​@@omyga2062lmfao underrated comment lol

    • @theo865
      @theo865 Рік тому +1

      @omyga2062 second highest average attendance last year bud

    • @AyaGumede
      @AyaGumede Рік тому

      @theo865 In my country, they play your team's live games on Cartoon Network

    • @theo865
      @theo865 Рік тому

      @@AyaGumede literally didn't ask about your third world shithole

  • @emekamonyei2158
    @emekamonyei2158 Рік тому

    Premium upgrade on Partey????
    Excuse me??? In what world?

  • @jessicanohro7065
    @jessicanohro7065 Рік тому +2

    I want to see Viera in the position of Havertz,he can pass,energetic and ain't a laibaility on defence,plus he is protected by 2fullback ad a DM.Sorry i rather have W.Prose or Maddy over Havertz.

    • @ApArsenal
      @ApArsenal Рік тому

      I wish we had good Maddy. Sad to see him at spurs.

  • @nyaladzanitshuma116
    @nyaladzanitshuma116 Рік тому

    I stopped listening when you said he is a premium upgrade on Thomas Partey. When fully fit Partey is still the best in the world. He receives under pressure and skilfully turn away and play incisive passes. Rice is more mobile and not as injury prone hence why he is being used there.

    • @ChukwukaOsakwe
      @ChukwukaOsakwe Рік тому

      Your last sentence is exactly why he's an upgrade on Partey.

  • @NE1L279
    @NE1L279 Рік тому +2

    Yes, it would have made a lot more sense to have Fabio Vieira and Reiss Nelson in the box during corners. Two of the smallest and weakest players in the Arsenal side, instead of Declan Rice. Great insight and analysis. Numpty.

  • @hanzosiku
    @hanzosiku Рік тому

    The scary part is that this is what Rodri has been doing for city in over 3 seasons now (effortlessly). Can DR become that goood?

  • @Gooner468
    @Gooner468 Рік тому

    This is exactly why he's a Xhaka replacement rather than partey replacement.... Where he's basically an upgrade of Xhaka and also defensively better

  • @nimay13
    @nimay13 Рік тому

    Let’s be real, both team sucks during the match. It’s like watching league 2 match, even Wrexham is more competent.

  • @DC-uf6ve
    @DC-uf6ve Рік тому +1

    This bloke is so overrated it's just madness. One scuffed deflected goal in a fairly average performance an people are creaming themselves. 105m is great business for West Ham. Arsenal spent a lot of dough for 3rd or 4th place.

  • @dmenace8411
    @dmenace8411 Рік тому

    The Arse-oles Evolved him😭😭...you guys are so delusional.
    He became the Giant at W⚒️H. Thats why last seasons 'Floppers'😏 broke the British Transfer record to get him...from West Ham😭😭😭. ⚒️COYI⚒️

  • @HaiLeQuang
    @HaiLeQuang Рік тому

    They did not beat ManUtd. They escaped a legit goal by Garnacho. Utilised a blocker tactic while taking corner, which should be a foul.
    The game is rigged

  • @Goonermenu
    @Goonermenu Рік тому

    .An inverted RB covers that spot left in transition. Its sad that Timber is likely out of the season as he would have been perfect for that.
    but that means you are playing with two inverted fullbacks (Timber,Zinchenko) except Zinchenko cant really play as a LCB in a 3 when the RB inverts.

  • @finkomsky
    @finkomsky Рік тому +4

    He did very little in the game and was unmarked and got a lucky deflection

  • @Cosmic-Wanderer
    @Cosmic-Wanderer Рік тому +1

    🤣🤣🤣.
    He was non existent all game. Got lucky nobody was at the backpost scores a deflected goal
    All of a sudden. World beater, “HOW ARSENAL EVOLVED DECLAN RICE TO BEAT UNITED”
    😭my goodness its beyond cringe.
    No i dont support dogshit united either. Arsenal were that poor they made Utd look dangerous at times and thats saying something

  • @carygonzalez596
    @carygonzalez596 Рік тому

    When rice get the ball, onana just can see Maguire is in front of him, then he moved left to get the sight. When he saw rice going to shoot, Onana had no time to save because Maguire was a great own goal opponent. 😂 yea Onana, you chose the MU, enjoy it.

  • @ScyzorykPolak18
    @ScyzorykPolak18 Рік тому

    It’s gonna be great when his career ends and all he has to show for it is the Conference League with West Ham.

  • @REX4340
    @REX4340 Рік тому

    Laughable.

  • @michaelnwode3438
    @michaelnwode3438 Рік тому +8

    I’m not a Manchester United fan but if the clueless VAR didn’t disallow Garnacho’s clean goal, Arsenal wouldn’t have made the come back…that’s how football is.

    • @UtdGGMU0421
      @UtdGGMU0421 Рік тому +10

      Tbh that offside was unlucky but I’m trusting the lines on that one, we can’t blame this loss on the refs I think the officiating was fine, we just had terrible luck

    • @You.are.correct.however
      @You.are.correct.however Рік тому +13

      it wasn't clueless, lol. he was offside, caught by an offside trap by gabriel. and these ifs are useless, the goal didnt go through and arsenal won 3-1. that's how football is

    • @JoshAFC
      @JoshAFC Рік тому +10

      It was offside and gabriel deliverately played him offside.
      You also got away with a pen that should NEVER have been overruled by var because theres contact and its miles away from clear and obvious.
      Instead they show the ref the only angle where it doesnt look like theres contact and he watches it for 0.5 seconds. Refs absolutely helped you more than us.

    • @Janee8336
      @Janee8336 Рік тому +2

      These manu fans are crying because they never experienced offside trapped situations lmao, i wish Peak Real Madrid could show them about offside traps 🤣

    • @samk2723
      @samk2723 Рік тому +4

      Why do you have to lie that you are not a Manchester United fan to make an emotional comment 😂? Pundits,former players and refs saw nothing with that offside call,,it was tight and watching on your TV might have wrongly buffled you.

  • @danielodutola8855
    @danielodutola8855 Рік тому +5

    You are over analysing a random moment in the game. Arsenal got a corner in the last minute of the game so they sent all their big, physically imposing players that can jump and head q ball forward, Rice being one of them. It wasn't planned or premeditated. It just happened. The real question is why did the mugs at Manchester United leave Rice alone at the backpost?😂

    • @kap8160
      @kap8160 Рік тому +16

      Go look at every arsenal corner in the game. Rice was on the back post for all of them, mostly unmarked. In the second half, you'll see players act as blockers to stop players from getting to Rice. It was genuinely 100% a calculated move.

    • @RebelWisdom
      @RebelWisdom Рік тому +5

      @@kap8160- yep, today's Tifo video showed that Rice was in that position for every corner

    • @jeronimogordon3205
      @jeronimogordon3205 Рік тому +4

      rice was at the back post for all 12 of our corners, so this makes no sense

    • @danielodutola8855
      @danielodutola8855 Рік тому

      @kap8160 Yeah Arteta planned before the game that in the last minute of the game arsenal will get a corner and saka will take it and then play it right into Rice's chin who will then control it and half volley it onto a man United defender who will then deflect it onto Onanas outstretched hand before the ball finally ends up in the net, "tactics bruuuh🥴" or maybe teams practice corner kick routines in training with every player assigned a specific role thats why he was always at the second post and the ball happened to find its way to him in and he was able to take a touch and strike the ball with power.🤨

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 Рік тому +7

      If you wanna watch football like a casual and not know what’s really going on then enjoy, but there’s strategy in everything at the top level and people that know their stuff that notice these things are gonna talk about it

  • @George-wy2yb
    @George-wy2yb Рік тому +1

    He was garbage then scored a deflection? I don't get the appreciation

    • @alzer6467
      @alzer6467 Рік тому +3

      Football isn't for everyone, have you tried rugby maybe?

  • @jakecollins6097
    @jakecollins6097 Рік тому +1

    He has played like that for a couple of years. He has not done anything different since being at Arsenal. Sorry, I love your videos but this frankly bollocks.

  • @chrisclassical7
    @chrisclassical7 Рік тому +1

    you have to remember that united were playing with 4th and 5th choice cb's which were being held and that rices' shot was deflected into the net. to me arsenal yesterday were as good as they are going to be this year whereas united have so much room for improvement. and on the offside goal it could have gone either way and you would be making a different video

    • @aymasey4948
      @aymasey4948 Рік тому +1

      U defo support the devil's😂

  • @sampiotrowski3840
    @sampiotrowski3840 Рік тому +1

    Terrible analysis. Rice is a typical overrated British player.

  • @Shuflin
    @Shuflin Рік тому +1

    Garnacho was ONSIDE on the other angle shown; fault on Evans at 2nd goal; penalty for Hojlund not given.
    Edit: Oh yea, and the RED for Saka that wasn't given. Studs on the leg at high speed.

    • @rasjeff1
      @rasjeff1 Рік тому +12

      Keep crying! 😂😂😂

    • @ZetstarMemco
      @ZetstarMemco Рік тому

      Prat

    • @rasjeff1
      @rasjeff1 Рік тому

      @@ZetstarMemco a prat supporting a winning team 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ZetstarMemco
      @ZetstarMemco Рік тому +5

      @@rasjeff1 I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to the Yanited fan 😄

    • @atharvrao1417
      @atharvrao1417 Рік тому +1

      Lol stop ranting Man U fan u lost 3-1 end of

  • @brandonstojanovic5086
    @brandonstojanovic5086 Рік тому

    If we didn’t pay $100million then he wouldn’t even be in that position. lol it was a great call by the brass