Another case of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. The press hardly ever mentions this. That the way to stop school shootings is to harden the schools. Teachers with guns, and tighter security measures make schools an unattractive target for cowardly terrorists etc. They go where there is likely to be unaware and unarmed victims such as a church or a mall or even a school. It is time to protect our most valuable resource better. Come on America, stop using children for politics.
I am a young man and have met many people young and old who were not ready to handle the responsibility but I have also met many who were. It all starts with a good teacher and small steps.
Because of our country’s history, and the number of guns out there, EVERY youngster should be educated in gun safety. That way when a young person comes across a gun there is little fascination.
I believe there’s a lot of ignorant and lazy people. Too stubborn to change their ways. If they find something they deem an “easy solution” they’ll take it. That’s why there are so many young killers nowadays. They don’t teach, and they go too light on consequences. I believe GBI went and arrested lots of kids because they started posting threats/jokes to their own school after the georgia high school incident. See what they find funny? Says something about the parents as well but where kids are mentally.
My son, who is not against guns, but is not really a gun guy, asked me if I would give his 11 and 14 year old sons some instruction on the safe and effective use of firearms. I live in the country and I taught them in the back yard, safe gun handling practice, and how to accurately shoot a BB gun, pellet rifle, .22 rifle, a shot gun and an assortment of handguns, and they took it seriously, yet really enjoyed the experience. Someday soon we will be off to the local rifle range where I will teach them to shoot my Remington 700 SPS bolt .308, which we really can't appreciate in the limited back yard space. I don't expect the boys will become big gun shooters, but now they know the realities of safe gun ownership and markmanship.
I would love to see more freely-available to families. I was a child of the 70s and 80s. Back then, it was fairly common for police departments to host events for kids at gun races. A lot of my friends were also in the scouts where they taught marksmanship. And of course many were in ROTC in school. Today, I think these types of things are less available to people. I don’t know if the scouts still do it, but it seems like very few kids participate in that anymore. But the options for parents that want to teach their kids about guns, gun, safety, and basic marksmanship seem rare and expensive these days. But I do believe it’s like sex education. You can ignore it and not participate in it. But eventually, they’re going to learn from someone. And that someone should not be television, and ideally not their friends. But as you mention the American tradition with guns, I think that gun culture has also shifted from something that was a family tradition, focused around hunting and marksmanship to everything being highly tactical. I was a child, we learned on air rifles, then maybe 22s. Then our grandfathers 45 from the war. A lot of parents were hunters and had bold action rifles. And we never heard of these types of incidents that were seeing today. now everything is about emulating Call of Duty. When I was a kid I had no interest in building an AR 15, participating in events that simulated, shooting people, etc. I just wanted to shoot empty beer bottles with my .22. I just don’t understand what happened in literally just a couple of decades.
@@DwayneAltonJeff Cooper and his tactical obsessions had much to do with modern trends in gun ownership, more focused on shooting people than shooting targets. Tactical people are low IQ, bulls eye shooters, high IQ.
@@mungy27 Dunno, about the second, but the first appears to be 'murica. Just saw another one in the last 24 hours, and I swear the kid doesn't appear to have any idea about what he just did or why he did it. If the parents could care for an office plant I'd be impressed. This shit doesn't just happen, it's created.
I started firearm education on my kids, and now grandkids at @ age 4. Teaching kids about firearms takes away some of the mysticism of the gun, and that is best done as soon as they are mature enough to remember and and understand the dangers of guns.
@@TonyYork-KB9RAO No, lets not cater to the "politically correct" yuppyism. Even a low power pellet gun can give a life changing injury if it takes an eye out. Gun safety isn't about using politically correct terminology. It's about... well actual gun safety. Don't point the gun at anything unless you are OK with making a messy and permanent hole in it. The sooner kids understand that guns can be dangerous the better.
^5! I too first started handling/using firearms at the age of four! (I was a VERY determined daughter!). Folks love trying to give me grief over this simple tradition, but I refuse to back down/give an inch. We're Americans. Our 2A Right is literally part of our culture/blood/soul! (Or, SHOULD be)
I started at 5 years old, my dad was SUPER strict on how to hold them and control them safely. Even after that lesson he said it was best to apply those same things to nerf guns, so that im constantly practicing my safety. Now at 22 after moving back to NC after a long while in anti gun massachusetts, ive bought myself my first AR and 10mm handgun. And those same lessons he taught me ring true. Havent had an issue the 5 times ive gone to the range. Thanks dad for being so strict with me. The muscle memory hasnt changed a bit.
We live in a heavy urban environment. My daughter is 14 and is in a school marksmanship club. I love teaching her at the weekends and watching her in competitions.
How old is a kid before you teach them not to play with wall outlets? You don't turn off the electric until they are 12 it's a taught life skill starting from (almost) birth.
Hello Sir, I trained all 3 of my grandkids about firearms. First the 4 rules of firearm safety. Then took to the range. From 22, 410. Then as they got older, 30 06, pistols, 12 ga. Know they are in college and know firearms are tools, to be used responsibly. And we go deer hunting yearly
My wife's father is a gun guy but doesn't believe in "toy" guns for children. I can see the logic in this but it wasn't how I was raised myself. I started shooting early like around 7-8 years old and learned the difference between real guns on the range and on the hunt and toys. The same with video games with driving/racing/demo derby games compared to real driving.
Rance here, you are correct. Take the curiosity of guns away by allowing them to handle any gun anytime only in your presence. Children will always do what you have instructed them NOT EVER to do.
There was a study done with two sets of siblings. They were one kid at 4 or 5 and the other a couple years older. One set grew up with guns and the other had parents who were against guns. They put all of the kids in a room with toys and hid a pistol in a box. All of the parents were watching as one of the kids who didn't live with guns found it. He took it out of the box and started playing with it. The little boy from the other family alerted his older sister and she took the gun from the kid and put it in the box while her little brother went to tell an adult. The smiles on their parents faces, while the other parents were horrified told the whole story. They did this study with a couple of other sets of kids and it played out almost the same way. One was where a kid who lived with guns found it (was the older sibling), closed the box, and sent their sibling to tell an adult, meanwhile the other kids were trying to get at the box and she had to keep pushing them away from it.
I like the conversation about love and peace. Being concerned about ourselves and about others. Life is precious. And though it is fun to go out to the range, the real reason why we have weapons is to protect life, to spare as many lives as possible should that ever present itself to us. So, having the conversation about gun safety…but, more importantly (to me) also speaking more positively about our society and about the people we share our community with. Instilling in our children positivity and goodness. We as adults tend to talk and act too negatively and too recklessly about all sorts of topics; our kids are listening.
I grew up being trained by a WWII Army soldier. He would take me hunting using a bolt action .22 rifle. There wasn't any ambiguity about handling or using this rifle. His gun safety training was done nicely but with absolutes. Years later I went into the Marines, and I found out that his safety training went beyond what we were taught. There wasn't an uncomfortable moment for me other than getting used to shooting an M-14. I started acquiring a hunting rifle, pistol and shotgun before I got married. Our marriage produced 4 children. I gave no access to my children with these firearms until I started individual training around 8 or 9 years old. First thing was the 4 points of gun safety. I took my children to the range and they with ear protection stood next to me, just to acclimate to being around a gun. None of them were forced or coerced into picking up a gun, let alone shoot it. Three out of four decided they wanted to shoot. One decided that it just wasn't something he was interested in. Two out of the four own handguns. I gave my son one after he was asking me what I think he should buy. I asked him to go to the range and shoot all those we brought with us. Then I asked him which one did he like. He indicated that he liked the Ruger 9mm. Then I said, it's now yours. I went to Academy Sports with my daughter and had her pick one. She had already shot most of mine over the years. She identified a 9mm that she liked, and I bought it for her. The only thing I wanted my children to know at a young age, if you see a gun, don't pick it up. Tell an adult if you see what laying around in their house. If no adult is around, call me or your mom.
*BINGO!* Papa too was a Vet ('Nam). He was one of the most easy-going, but fiercely intense Man when things became 'Real/Serious.' Handling weaponry was the one time I was actually scared of him (For what I'd seen him do, and his extreme focus. No one who ever met that gaze/expression doubted he was someone who could do exactly what he said.). From CQC (Hand-to-hand, knives, tomahawks (Yes, THOSE)), and then firearms, he raised all four of his children to be self sufficient and that included self defense. He was an absolute terror if we EVER treated his training lightly, or misused it in any way. We quickly learned none of it was a 'Game.' "Thank you, Papa! Your love, determination and hard work, has served me/my brothers very, very well!" :-)
@@AniwayasSongMy grandfather is a Vietnam Veteran...he is scared of guns, but lately I have been helping him over his fear. He is a blue no matter who guy if you know what I mean, and he wants most things banned...so we don't get along that well.
@@fortheloveofnoise I too am a Veteran, USMC, with two Tours under my Cover. I know/have known Vets who served (In Combat or in a wartime theater of operations, if not on the front lines themselves), who HATE firearms. They've seen the gore and mayhem that can happen. I don't hate or disrespect anyone who chooses to NOT 'Keep and bear arms.' It is (And should be) a personal choice, and I far prefer those who do not want to, don't, rather than be forced to. I trust someone willing and able to have and use firearms over someone who is not, in other words. I have had the honor of meeting and introducing so many people to firearms. (I've lost count, but near a hundred by now?). It is so amazing going from 'Practical Application' (ie, Classroom setting) to the firing line, and then seeing their reaction once they begin going down the path towards that vital Right ("Keeping and BEARING arms.") I know this is not a uniquely 'American' concept. There are more societies/cultures throughout the world, and history, that had/has a 'Warrior Caste' ideal, and for damned good reason. The world is not, and likely never will be, 'Safe.' That is just a simple fact. It is also a fact that many 'Bad guys' prey on other people, and they prefer to do so against those weaker/less protected when they do it (Cowardice, it is a trait amongst evil). I know of no other tool invented by Mankind, that is more effective at self preservation, than a firearm.
I knew how to take a mag out and check a chamber by the time I was 10. I didn't trust my little sister with that. I just want people to be okay. I'm worried about movies that are casual about violence or games where people can get revived if they are shot. It's not like that in real life. We need to treat weapons with respect. Fearing them isn't great, but getting your youth used to the presence of shooting and offering shooting to them is healthy I think. That way, they don't have to be uncomfortable and pushed into shooting if they don't want to.
Hickok, you are good for my blood pressure. Thank you for being a source of reason and a reflection of the upbringing of this 70 year old man. Bless you dear sir.
I think this was a real good idea to talk about this topic. You're right, Gun Safety, has to be taught to younger people the instant they touch a firearm or are around any. Take and Be Safe.
Great topic (especially) today…we raised two girls now 35/42…one is more comfortable w guns than the other…but both can shoot.. one has hunted and taken deer w me…I believe they learned firearms and life by example…kids listen and learn at home…I didn’t push them to guns and I never shielded them from guns…if they saw me handling a gun and were curious I satisfied that curiosity as appropriate for their age…they understand firearms.
Hi there in the Beautiful Hills of Tennessee! The approach of removing any kind of curiosity (and doubts) is very pedagogical ! Although I am living in a country where firearms are not allowed for civilians, I totally agree with the fact that teaching and educating kids the firearm safety issues starts by "muzzle discipline" when playing with their toy guns.... The earlier kids get good gun handling "mechanisms", the better they will be familiar with guns, the safer they can be introduced to gun owning and shooting ... Postponing Safety Issues is not an option ... Thanks Mister Kinman for sharing your knowledge and wisdom ! Much appreciated ! 🙏🏻
I grew up in farm country illinois. We had guns pretty much everywhere. Behind the front door and back door, in garage, in barn, in our bedrooms. Noone ever got killed. My dad let us have access to real guns at around 10 with supervision and we had our own by 13. We hunted and shot for fun. Our grandpa would pay us a nickel for every starling we could kill. We shot a lot of pigeons, opposums, raccoons, snakes and even coyotes. We had a great childhood in the 70s.
Pretty much the same for me. In school 90% of the guys carried a prized pocket knife and most also had a can of Copenhagen. There was NEVER any type of violence in any schools , other than the occasional knuckle lesson. The public schools and even most colleges turned into indoctrination centers by the deep state globalists. Sad but true.
This is how I grew up in rural/suburban Michigan in the 90s. I can't believe how quickly things got turned around. Our biggest issue is a nationwide mental health crisis, not a gun crisis. If we didn't have guns, it would be like the UK with knives. People with evil intent will anyways find a way. But why do people have evil intent so often now?
@@mattd.4133 Same here. In school, most guys carried a prized pocket knife and a can of Copenhagen. Other than an occasional knuckle sandwich between guys usually over a girl, there was NEVER any type of violence we see now. The schools and most colleges have turned into nothing but indoctrination centers by the deep state globalists. Sad but true.
I always felt that parents should model the behavior they expect from their children. This is true in so many ways, but since we are talking about children and guns, we'll start with modeling safe gun handling. If you are reckless with your handling of guns, then your children will likely exhibit that same behavior. I grew up in rural Georgia. We had one double barrel shotgun in the house. It was kept behind my parents bedroom door. My dad was an occasional hunter, mostly quail and rabbits. When I was young, like most young boys my age, I got a Daisy BB gun. My first real gun was a single shot 410. I think I was 10 or 11 when I got my 22 rifle. Rode my bike up and down the road picking up soda bottles to cash in to buy ammo. It was a great time to be a kid. In high school, I remember one year the shop teacher tried to establish a rifle team. We shot 22 rifles in a range we built in the basement of one of the school buildings. Not sure why that only occured one year. I think he tried to establish a league, but there was little interest from other schools. I also remember during deer season, just about every pickup in the student parking lot had a 30-30 or a shotgun displayed in a rack in the back window of the pickup. Nobody freaked out. It was a normal part of growing up in the rural South. No one would ever dream of bringing a gun into the school to shoot up the place. This is the day after the school shooting in Winder, GA. Winder is a semi-rural community about one hour north east of Atlanta. It is probably the last place one would expect an event like that to occur. So, what happened to our kids that we went from guns in the pickup trucks to shooting up the school?
As a teacher, a shooter, and a parent I can offer an answer to your question. Cell phones, tablets, and the internet has played a bigger role in this generation than their parents do. From their earliest memory they’ve had a tablet or cell phone slowly smoothing their brains while their parents ignore them because they seemed occupied and out of sight. Parents (the vast majority) have not actively participated in parenting over the past 15 years and now here we are dealing with an entire generation of teenagers who were literally raised by cell phones. It’s a bigger problem in the classroom than anyone who isn’t a teacher would know. You would be shocked if you walked into the average high school classroom on any given day. 60 eyes glued to little screens which earphones on not even noticing that there’s a lesson going on without an audience. When someone asks what do you do for a living without telling me your job I tell them I sit in a room and talk about science while 30 teenagers ignore me while they scroll social media on their phones. It’s sad.
I totally agree with you but I'd like to add my two cents worth here on the total problem as I see it from a retired 40+ year veteran police officers view..in order of priorities.. #1. Child's upbringing by parents,,most both work now or are in a single parent home and discipline and rules,,respect for anything are lacking massively nowadays..When I was a kid at school and had a beef with someone,,we either did nothing or we duked it out by hand.. No one ever mentioned anyone being shot..Unheard of period,,,60s and 70s.. #2..Bullying!! Seems most of these young shooters were bullied and found a way to get even with their terrible loner world,,to take out people and get their name highlighted in the news with their generally, suicidal final event. #3..INTERNET!!! Having access to everything immediately,,via cell phones and all other types of electronically means,,,to see the event,,copycat and acquire information on the,,,How to do list,,,and to seek the tools needed for the evil event. And the internet,,especially the social webs,,,allow the children to communicate with others and thus continue to lose the,,,face to face communication skills needed to properly develope their brains to actual people and not a screen view of generally just words. No people skills or very little.. I've witness this continue to get evermore worse as the internet continues to be accessible to these youngsters.. I attribute,,in my educated personal observations in my career and my observations of the news investigations,, most of these violent actions,,,,attacks on fellow students and teachers to the above three listed faults in our current society which continues to escalate.. Of course there are others factors,,natural mental illnesses and drugs but I believe the top three listed are the main contributors to this ongoing evil event.. You know if we,,the USA can spend billions,,trillons on needs here in the USA and the same to foreign countries,,just why can't all our schools be fortified to prevent entry of any gun toting person??? It all boils down to money and the willingness to invest in our schools being properly protected and fortified..can be done,,I would suggest with a huge chunk of this foreign aid funds..Afterall ,what's more important,,foreigners or our own children and teachers,,I vote the later... I do not blame any firearms..They've been around since the later part of the 1800s and never used, to my knowledge, in these evil school shootings until about the arrival time of the INTERNET... I'm 68 yoa and that's my opinion. Hope Hickok 45 reads this too!!!
Hickok your right safety and trust and age is the thought for concerns how well is the experience for whats known is all I can say for now. Getting properly trained and trusted. What I've learned over the years is how relieved it is from the experience from one energy to another when it is known of the clearing sound.
I had 3 daughters and 5 grand kids. I teach them safety first. Even toy guns are pointed down unless they are in a pool shooting squirt guns as a toy. I taught them to check a firearm and make sure it is safe to handle. I tested them to make sure they would tell an adult if they found a gun. I started them on BB and Pellet guns with the same safety as a real gun. Then when old enough, start them on simple 22s. Single shot bolt is a good starter. I didn't push them. Some took to guns right away, some needed a few years to show interest but I didn't push them. We also sent them to an official safe gun handling course with other children taught by a local gun store.
@@swhite10539 OP Comment: "I taught them to check a firearm and make sure it is safe to handle." Rule #2: all guns are loaded THE GUN IS LOADED, no need to check. M1911- the safety must be off to rack the slide to check>> Don't flip the safety off to check the chamber, #1: point in the direction of least consequences #3: Keep your finger OFF the trigger
You nailed it Hickok. I have 3 boys and they live on a range. EVERYTHING you said is what I have done and had wonderful results with. My kids are safe, excellent marksman, and truly enjoy shooting sports. It took time and effort to get em there.
This issue isn't about firearms safety...It's about the breakdown in families and mental health issues. Back in 1969 I was given my first gun at 4 y/o, second one at 8...and was hunting on my own before 10. Raised in the boonies of Ozark Co Mo, Everyone had firearms and none of them were locked or even hidden very well....And most of them were loaded.....And still, none of them magically jumped up and started committing murderous actions. I was also taught respect for other people, human life and the proper ways to handle my anger and emotional responses. Kids today don't seem to have them.
I generally agree with this. We can look at other countries with strict gun laws and see many mass stabbings and poisonings and such. If you took away every gun in America right now, but left this parenting and mental-health travesty the same, ain’t much gonna change.
@@wmpx34 Switzerland is 2nd for gun ownership in Europe & they're way safer than the UK & Australia. Whereas the UK bans knives because teens are stabbing one another. (Knife Control)
@@rancelynch6514 That's not what he said, and blaming video games is just an excuse for poor parenting. It's better to show your kids how to use firearms properly than it is to leave that up to EAgames. The entire planet has got so dumb in the last fifty years.
Today's youth are taught and pointed to all the wrong ways of (violence) pertaining to many weapons of such , just look at all the video games out there!. Self defense is always portrayed as the enemy, hunting for food is the same as well. School systems use to teach proper education and its sad very few have that program these days. Parents ,grandparents have and always will be the forefront & correct way to learn from and respect the tool in there hands. WE NEED MORE OF THIS FOR SURE ,this day and all to come. Bring back educating our youth through schools and clubs , Boy Scouts , Elks Youth Club etc. NRA was a big deal in my youth also and they had some of the best programs out there. Thanks to my family and many many well versed educators such as Hickok45.
I’m with you on educating children about such things. It’s the parents’ responsibility. In regard to the recent Georgia tragedy, since this video was released, more details about the accused have bubbled up. Sounding like, if the reports are to believed, there were a number of other issues that may have contributed to making the problem and education may not have been a factor at all.
Not a bad talk, Hickok - Data-point: I took my first deer at age 7, using grandpa's .30-30 (with his full knowledge) and prior to that, was running around with capguns, pellet guns, BB guns and water guns from too far back to remember. I grew up with guns easily accessible - A .22 sitting in the corner behind the kitchen door for plinking crows in the graden, a deer rifle hung above the sink in the kitchen for taking deer through the window when they came to eat windfall apples, a shotgun near the back door, a rifle inside the barn door, another shotgun in the sap-house - all of them always loaded and ready for use, plus a glass-front gun cabinet in the living room with the "heavy artillery" in it (with the key laying on top of the "B" volume of the Encyclopedie Britannica in its case next to the gun cabinet) Was gifted my first "this is *YOUR* rifle now" gun after a final repetition of the safety lecture (Treat it like it's always loaded, don't point it at anything you don't want to kill, etc) on my 10th birthday. To date, one unintended (nope, not negligent, and not truly accidental - unintended) discharge that did no damage 'cause it hit the berm, and nothing even resembling a close call, almost 50 years and I-can-'t-even-guess-how-many rounds later. I'm "kid-free" (thank the gods...) but I truly believe in "teach 'em young" if you want gun-safe kids. Your "If you wanna mess with it, just ask" concept is an *EXCELLENT* way to "demystify" guns.
@@Omlet221 Was first time out of the box with a new rifle at the range. Lever gun, checking it out at the request of my landlord, who'd just bought it. Loaded it up, fired 3-4 rounds, decided I needed to give the windage a click or two left - after I'd already jacked the next round (of 10+ left in the mag, if I remember rightly) into the chamber. Went to half-cock safety it as the book described, but overshot the half-cock notch, and had to draw the hammer back to try to catch it. Now, specifically BECAUSE I was fiddling with the trigger and hammer of a first-time-being-fired-by-me rifle that I knew without a doubt had a live one in the pipe, I was being "paranoid careful" to keep it pointed at the impact zone while I did the operation. And good thing that was the case, because when I started to try drawing the hammer back to catch the half-cock notch, I lost my grip on it, and and the berm ate another bullet and spit out a few chips of rubber. Not negligent - I was taking every care. Not accidental - I was quite deliberately pulling the trigger and manipulating the hammer on a gun known to have a live round in the chamber. Except that because my grip was bad, (in hindsight, I should have had my thumb further across the spur than it was) there was a discharge I didn't intend to happen . But while it was neither truly accident, nor negligent, there's no question that it was an UNINTENDED discharge. I was, in fact, in the act of taking the maker's specified steps to prevent it from discharging, when my bad grip on the hammer of a new-to-my-hands gun let it get loose, and the drop was long enough to touch off the round. But, on the good side, as already noted, when you're at the range, the berm is where your rounds are SUPPOSED TO land after being discharged, so I count it as a "no harm, no foul" unintended discharge - and a learning experience. Of course, yes, once I dropped the hammer and knew that it had fired, I said "t'hell with it", didn't jack the lever - a gun with a known-fired round in the chamber is as safe as a gun with no round in the chamber at all - considered it "safed" enough for the adjustment, clicked the windage, and went back to shooting. Turned out I needed 3 clicks total to get it properly on the paper.
Great video as always Hickok, growing up my mother told us when playing with toy guns to NEVER point them at anyone. From a young age that really taught us the foundation of gun safety and I'm thankful for that.
I have a son that is closer than I'd like to being a teenager. I've taken him shooting multiple times and we've talked about guns. I think you give some sage advice for those who haven't encountered the teenage years. Many thanks.
Great topic sound advise. We live in a stressful world, the risks are too great to leave gun safety to chance we must do everything to make sure of responsible gun ownership. Guns provide great sport, target shooting and hunting. Everyone listen to HICKOK and stay safe.
Grew up with toy guns, squirt guns, BB guns, played violent video games, played with g I joes and grew up to be a normal adult. Some kids need more time to mature and understand and separate real life from make believe. Also witnessing my dad and uncles have numerous ND in and outside the house put the fear of god into me about guns and not mishandling them.
I'm in Cali and have my 11 year old daughter i8s totally trained with firearms. The girl can shoot, she has such a steady hand and is so accurate. she is the only one in her school that knows anything about gun safety and use, she is my little Annie Oakley!!
So much respect to Hickok 45 for having a conversation, especially during these crazy times when they are needed the most. Too many of our biggest gun influencers on UA-cam are quiet and afraid to have a conversation. I am very fortunate that I was raised the same way Mr. & Mrs Hickok45 raised John. My parents are the same exact age age as Hickok45, and yes, I have kept it going and raised my children the same way. I have a " hunting/ gun room " that everything is stored in and locked up tight. My boys did not get the code and key to that Gun Room until several months after their high school graduation. 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅
I started teaching gun safety to my son at 3 years old. I also told him if he ever wanted to shoot all he need do is to ask me. Sometimes I wasn't in the mood or was busy but I would stop and take him to shoot. It kept him satisfied and removed the mystic. ( I was writing this as you said basically the same thing) I believe that this is key in teaching firearm safety for younger kids. As a kid I was able to get any of my fathers guns I would stand in front of the gun rack and look at their but I never touched them without permission with the exception of one time I got one for self defense ( but didn't have to use it).
Dad taught me first at 8 yrs. He was very strict about safety. You never get a second chance was the quote. I was allowed to hunt a 9. My brother had to wait he was 2 yrs younger but dad was strict and made him wait till he showed some responsibility. I guess I matured sooner. We hunted together never missed an opening day for 30 years. I miss him I have followed his lead with my own children. All must know even if the passi o n isn't there they should be trained. Love this channel
My Dad (NYPD) had the same philosophy of just ask to see it and he would provide that opportunity. I used it with both of my sons and now they are raising their children that way.
my dad was the same way when I was small, told me if I was curious about them and wanted to see and handle them or go shooting, all I had to do was ask, and to that end never to go near them without his permission and direct supervision. Now I'm somewhat of an avid gun guy myself, and I fully intend to teach my kids the same if and when I have them. greetings from the Jersey side of the river btw.
You’ve given me some things to think about. However for me personally, I feel I have to wait awhile before I feel like my son is mature enough and responsible enough to handle a firearm. That’s just me. It’s not so much about age, it’s knowing your child isn’t too impatient or impulsive.
One thing that always stuck with me was when I took hunter safety. I was probably 8. They made me shoot a chuck roast to see what a bullet did to flesh. Always stuck with me, and it’s something I’m going to do with my 8 yo soon. Great video. Love what you do. Keep it up.
My kids are 10 and 9 and I have learned them on guns their entire lives and have had zero issues! Education is key and I know I can trust them around loaded weapons and know they won’t FAFO
My brother is pretty anti gun but he grew up in the same family I did, with plenty of gun training. Even his kids will see my dad’s gun chilling in the holder by his chair and say “that is for adults, I cannot touch that” and know better than to handle guns. We’ve explained the danger of them many times but they still aren’t old enough for shooting.
I learned about shooting from the Junior Rifle Club which was the adjunct to the Idaho Rifle and Pistol Club affiliated with the NRA in the 5th grade. They taught .22lr rifle target competitions indoors, and trap and skeet outdoors. This came about after we had been taught gun safety and shooting at our public elementary school from 1st grade on up. Every year volunteers taught basic gun safety to all school age children with the permission of their parents. Life was precious to us back then and we gun proofed our kids.
Fascinating how things change over time. The official enlistment age for the Continental Army was 16, (15 with parental consent). As a youngster, I don't remember any of my buddies not having a 3 or 4 spot open shelf wooden gun rack with that little drawer at the bottom for ammo. To the best of my recollection, the set up was always similar, a bow up top, single shot .22 rifle in the second spot and .410 break open shotgun in the bottom position and this was in NJ circa 1968. At any rate, I'm certainly not advocating folks do that today, but it was a thing back then. Good vid.
In the high school I attended 50 years ago, we were ALLOWED to bring our own firearm on campus on ROTC sponsored days of marksmanship. I remember others bringing in .22 pistols in discreet cases that could pass for a clarinet case. I remember seeing the Ruger Mark I all the way to a gorgeous High Standard. No student even thought of shooting another. It NEVER happened. What are we doing wrong now? What were we doing right back then? These murderers have regressed into dark ages behavior. We also put people in mental institutions back then. We pay less attention to mental health now than we did before. Much less. Additionally, just look at the streets of any large American city. You will find the mentally ill among the homeless & that is just the tip of the iceberg.
Mental institutions were seen as inhuman! how inhumane is it having mentally ill people living in the streets NEGLECRED by society. The do good people didn't put enough work into correcting the institutions and making them better. They seemed to open the gates and forget about them. Life is very difficult today its too fast for many and too demanding for many. Humans were not meant to live like this, we have to find a better balance generally.
Short version: Born '69. I don't remember a time when I didn't know anything about guns. Had the opportunity to walk out the back (or front) door and shoot. Just a natural thing to do. Found it harder to get my son and daughter interested. Living in town makes it way less natural. Also ... we could entertain ourselves by throwing rocks. Way more entertainment/distractions today.
Tennessee has a great hunter education program. I would encourage anyone to take their children through an "in person" class if possible. There's no charge for the in person classes and it provides a great introduction to firearm safety! You don't have to ever hunt if that's not for you, but attend a hunter education class.
Im a young german so i likely will never own a gun, sadly and i also dont have children yet but i really need to say how much i appreciate the information given, its clearly very well thought out. Much love Hickok, have been watching "guntube" since i was a little kid basically, and somehow just found out about the talks channel a few days ago and really loving this... Im kind of fed up with the whole shooting stuff that blows up and making amateur tests with firearms, i love the talking side of things and the actual information side way more these days and this is basically perfect for the talking about gun related topics.
@@mrks998 Well the amount of money it costs etc, just dont think its worth yet also i would like to carry concealed which i would need to research the laws on that etc... Just annoying over all.
My dad was teaching me gun safety by the age of 7 or 8 and taught me much the same way you taught John. He got me a BB gun when I was 12 and we would plink empty beer cans in the back yard often...doing this allowed him to teach me fundamentals that would carry over to shooting live ammo with little transition.
Omg...hehe...the youngster 12 gauge trial by fire move...5 rounds of #8 low brass...and finish with high brass last shot...stand by and help catch the gun...hehe happened to me and I passed it on to my boys...great fun
Im the same way with my daughters, i kinda trained her to point the toy guns in a safe direction when shes walking around the house and to store it in a specific way etc. and i almost didnt want to do the toy guns too. It definitely helps to have other people come in when it comes to range time too, as well as literally seeing the destructive force when it comes time to operate "real" firearms. I agree on the teenagers, especially in todays society. Great points.
So more than anyone wanted to hear, In Minnesota I was a Hunters safety instructor. We had a Black powder section , Archery section and my section was " Modern Arms section where we shot handguns, revovers, left and right hand bolt action22LR then up through the calibers, I had a lady show up because her father and child had been thier the year before and she wanted to have that same fun!
I started with my daughter when she was 3 with a plastic cap gun and plastic holster. Taught her to always point it at the ground and keep her finger off the trigger until she is aiming and ready to fire. I worked on that with her for about 6 months until she fully grasped it. When she was 4 I bought her a single-shot crickett .22 and took her out to some family friend's property. I showed her how to load it, I held it for her and she pulled the trigger, ejected the round and loaded a new one. At 5 years old she can aim, shoot and load the crickett by herself but she knows that she is not to touch a gun unless I'm present and she asks me. All my firearms are locked in a safe apart from wall hangers / stuff I don't have ammo for. From an early age she's helped me load magazines, clean guns, etc. Like you said, that helped remove curiosity and I think that is important but remember, their friends will not be the same.. They will still have that curiosity so make sure shit is locked up. She's going to be 6 this year and I got her a Ruger Charger since she loves shooting cans/bottles of soda and I figured she can really have some fun with a charger lol.
Thats all fine and good however some kids have anger issues that they cant control so they want to hurt someone, i believe it's a mental health issue there has to be something very wrong with any one young or older that wants to hurt anyone with a gun.
I took the oversaturation approach with my kids. I told them, they could never touch the guns without me, it’s just too dangerous. But anytime they wanted to see/touch them just ask me and I’ll go get them so they can. So they did and every time they asked me, I’d go get them and then use it as an excuse to go over the 4 rules of gun safety, showed them how to load/unload, make safe and just talked about what to do if they ever were outside the house and a gun appeared. In a short amount of time, they got over their curiosity and stopped asking. Never had an issue and now that they’re older they are educated on gun safety.
My dad started introducing me to guns at around 5 years old. Showing me the power that they have and how they are to be safely handled. When my own son was young and had this fascination with a new gun I had bought. I took him to shoot the new gun. I went first and when it was his turn, he had jumped in the truck with his fingers in his ears. Him seeing the power and sound scared the crap out of him. I took a few years until he matured before he was ready to learn about guns. They have to grow up with respect for firearms and safety has to be taught over and over.
Currently teaching a group of children BB gun and target plinking. The intro day and beyond we use the acronym MATS M- muzzle control and always down range or in a safe direction. A- the Action of said tool should be cleared with visual inspection. T- Trigger discipline, finger should never be on it until it is time to actually shoot at target. S- Safety should be On when handling any arms and also passed between shooters. Always respect the Hickock perspective and pointers. Godbless
My biggest concern is their access to firearms and also the increased amount of drugs being prescribed to you individuals for ADHD, Depression, Anxiety or all three. This is something that has really grown over the past 20-30 years and is turning these kids brain to mush. Would love to see a toxicology report on the shooter.
I’ve always felt that it’s good to start with a .22 rifle, rather than handguns. It seems like kids are more likely to whip around a handgun in the wrong direction than a long gun. My Dad started me with a single-shot .22 rifle, shooting empty shotgun shells, which taught me the value of taking my time and marksmanship rather than just spraying rounds down range.
Hickock45, I was raised and taught about firearms all my life, when I was 8, I would earn a quarter a week to collect eggs every day and later got a nickel bounty on any varmint that crawled out of the creek into the garden. I could walk to the country store and buy a box of 50 Peters shorts for 27 cents. I had toy guns for play but I had access to a Winchester #67 for varmints &. Home protection. I was taught the difference and understood. Pop said a lot of accidental shootings, people are killed by unloaded guns. I have lived by this for 70 years. It is not the gun, it is ignorance that is the danger, especially in ab automobile.
My parents would not let us kids (all 6) have bb guns. My Dad, a WW2 vet. but we were allowed to handle the real rifles and shotguns. Dad felt that we needed to respect guns and not treat them like toys. We had to show Dad that we knew how to check that they were unloded. Even at a young age I was allowed to get one out of the gun cabinet and clean em. NEVER any issues and no curiosity either.
I Had a BB gun growing up that an adult was using and it bounced off of a toy car and the BB nearly went all the way through my ankle. They had to make another hole on the other side to dig it out.
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Just saw you on my feed. Let's thank the first responders for there quick response time to disarm the suspect. Had toy guns as a kid. Always was told not to point at people. I Shot 22 at summer camp as a boy Took a hunters safety course as a teen . I couldn't even imagine anything evil as a youth teen like the school shootings from this era.
@Hickock45Talks I don’t know if you’d want to open this particular can of worms, but given your experience in schools, maybe it would be good to hear your take on school shooting prevention?
I started shooting small caliber arms like .22 pretty early at around 10 or so and started hunting at 12 both closely supervised by dad. I had one negligent discharge while hunting and my dad had to talk about muzzle discipline a couple times but other than that, I was safe. I think the most important thing is to keep guns locked up especially around teenagers like you said. If you buy your kid a gun of their own, keep it in your safe but try to take them shooting as often as you can.
My dad gave me a Winchester model 1904 22 caliber rifle when I was 12…my grandfather gave it to him when he was a kid…I was taught by my dad to shoot…never allowed to touch the gun unless he was there…learned to respect the gun like I did my dad
I still have the Remington 12A pump .22 that I first learned to shoot at my Father's and Grandfather's hands at Grandpa's "farm" ( a gentleman's farm of maybe 7 acres). As a kid I knew where Dad had stored the 1911 .45 ACP that was Grandpa's in WWI. Sure, I snuck a few invasions to check it out. No one was ever shot or killed. I was taught how to handle firearms and respect the danger. I earned my .45 thumb scar honestly when I was allowed to shoot the pistol with a thumb over grip. Scar is still there 56 years later (I'm 64). Grandpa was in WWI and never hunted afterwards (he'd been turned off to killing - I respect that). Dad was never a hunter. I picked it up on my own. They taught me how to shoot . . . but not how to hunt. Happily I linked up with a friend's family that had a long hunting tradition and treasure all my time having hunted with them . . . and now, having survived them all, my time alone in my own woods in pursuit of whitetail. I also had the great good fortune to hook up with a traditionbal bowhunter mentor (recurves and wood arrows) and I still find that as the purest method of hunting. Taking a whiteail deer while on foot at ground level with a sightless bow is a real test of a hunter. As for home defense. Yes, I have a 9mm, 20 gauge SxS, that 1911. All ready for defense. I have no kids in the home and raise chickens so, maybe, there are a .22 LR and .223 REM loaded by the back door. Maybe.
We never had firearms in our house growing up, but my grandpa owns a number of them. Grandpa hunted when he was younger, before he had his heart attack. My brother and I did have cap guns, like most 70s kids. Anyway, Grandpa told us on may occasion that you don't point a gun, even a toy one, at someone unless you intend to use it ... A gun is a tools not toys.
I'm a 75yr old former 'yoot' living in the inner-city. Been shooting since I was about 10. When our kids were small the most repeated phrase with their toy guns was "Only point it at things, never people." Once they were old enough to handle the responsibility, they went with me to the local indoor gun range to experience the real thing. My son and I still shoot together regularly - handgun, rifle and trap and we both are proud concealed carry permit holders.
I bought my first gun at 16. Auto5 shotgun I got from an old vet at my first job. My parents never knew and probably wouldn’t have agreed. I’m 27 and since that time a lot has changed. Kids can’t get jobs, Red flag laws, and my state bumped up the buying age(Florida) at 20 I was selling firearms but I wasn’t legally able to buy a handgun yet handled them everyday plus ammo. I owned bows and air guns. I would agree with people being trained but really with the shooting I think this delves into parenting. Proscribed drugs are definitely a problem in these instances especially when media doesn’t ask that question but really parents need to be more involved. They should know who the kid looks up to (say if it’s a pop star or a mass casualty maker) and if they are going though a bad time say depression. What I see in a lot of these cases is it’s one or both plus extra. The parents just live they’re life thinking it won’t happen and totally pass up red flags they could have seen. This also goes for than just shootings but also self endings. Parents say we never saw it or they touch the subject but the parent could have but didn’t know. I am now leo trained and I look at it as such. This isn’t a ban guns issue as the problem will not be solved. There’s so much more to each situation. There’s multiple reasons always to why a situation goes bad. Normally it’s because a couple people messed up not just once
I'm 79. When we were young Arkansas kids, we carried guns everywhere. We mostly target practiced , but hunted too. We never thought about shooting someone. I think God was taken out of the schools and out of family life. God needs to be lifted up in our society!
That’s going to be the most difficult problem, I’m in my 20’s an most people my age ether fully understand it, or you can’t even bring it up. It really is two different worlds. I really don’t know how to remedy that. Besides trying to teach the next generation coming up
Religion is necessary for many to keep their moral compasses from going off the rails. There are others who inherently just have enough emotional stability and maturity to avoid trouble.
We need hunter safety training with a test afterwards like they did after school in my elementary school cafeteria. If we wanted to hunt or skeet shoot, our parents had us take it.
As a child, I was not allowed to have toy guns, because my parents didn't want me to think of guns as toys. I respect that position. Feel free to disagree politely. I was gifted a .22 rifle as a teen (allegedly because I would "respect it more than I would a BB gun"), but was given zero instruction regarding safety or what we now consider the four rules of firearm safety. I have never forgiven my father for that negligence, even as I am very glad I didn't harm anyone while shooting plants and paper targets in the woods behind my house. A few months later, I enrolled in ROTC my freshman year of high school, and learned a bit more about how to shoot and when to not shoot. I have grandkids, now, so I've been thinking about how to introduce the topic. I of course will discuss it with their parents first, and follow agreed-upon age-appropriate teachings.
I'm not pretending to know everything about your past, obviously, so please feel free to correct me if I assume something wrongly Giving a teenager a gun after denying them any experience with them throughout their childhood and then not teaching basic safety and respect for the weapon is shockingly irresponsible Really glad to hear you managed to avoid a serious problem and I hope you can bestow upon your grandkids what your father did not unto you
Years ago I did what H45 is talking about with all the kids we took care of, they could see/handle any weapon we owned as long as they asked and we never had an issue..
I introduced guns and my bow to my neice and nephew when they were young. I let them shoot my 22 levergun. I tried to get my nephew to shoot my muzzleloader. But, he wasn't interested. He still doesn't show much interest in guns. I don't know what's wrong with him 🤷♂️🤣
As an FYI, I recorded this a couple of days ago, before the school shooting in Georgia occurred.
Another case of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. The press hardly ever mentions this. That the way to stop school shootings is to harden the schools. Teachers with guns, and tighter security measures make schools an unattractive target for cowardly terrorists etc. They go where there is likely to be unaware and unarmed victims such as a church or a mall or even a school. It is time to protect our most valuable resource better. Come on America, stop using children for politics.
Man, the timing on that huh?
you know its propaganda when youtube shows a news section promoting it
I am a young man and have met many people young and old who were not ready to handle the responsibility but I have also met many who were. It all starts with a good teacher and small steps.
Its still pertinent.
Because of our country’s history, and the number of guns out there, EVERY youngster should be educated in gun safety. That way when a young person comes across a gun there is little fascination.
I believe there’s a lot of ignorant and lazy people. Too stubborn to change their ways. If they find something they deem an “easy solution” they’ll take it. That’s why there are so many young killers nowadays. They don’t teach, and they go too light on consequences.
I believe GBI went and arrested lots of kids because they started posting threats/jokes to their own school after the georgia high school incident. See what they find funny? Says something about the parents as well but where kids are mentally.
When I was a kid they taught gun safety in health class.😊
My son, who is not against guns, but is not really a gun guy, asked me if I would give his 11 and 14 year old sons some instruction on the safe and effective use of firearms. I live in the country and I taught them in the back yard, safe gun handling practice, and how to accurately shoot a BB gun, pellet rifle, .22 rifle, a shot gun and an assortment of handguns, and they took it seriously, yet really enjoyed the experience. Someday soon we will be off to the local rifle range where I will teach them to shoot my Remington 700 SPS bolt .308, which we really can't appreciate in the limited back yard space. I don't expect the boys will become big gun shooters, but now they know the realities of safe gun ownership and markmanship.
I would love to see more freely-available to families. I was a child of the 70s and 80s. Back then, it was fairly common for police departments to host events for kids at gun races. A lot of my friends were also in the scouts where they taught marksmanship. And of course many were in ROTC in school. Today, I think these types of things are less available to people. I don’t know if the scouts still do it, but it seems like very few kids participate in that anymore. But the options for parents that want to teach their kids about guns, gun, safety, and basic marksmanship seem rare and expensive these days. But I do believe it’s like sex education. You can ignore it and not participate in it. But eventually, they’re going to learn from someone. And that someone should not be television, and ideally not their friends.
But as you mention the American tradition with guns, I think that gun culture has also shifted from something that was a family tradition, focused around hunting and marksmanship to everything being highly tactical. I was a child, we learned on air rifles, then maybe 22s. Then our grandfathers 45 from the war. A lot of parents were hunters and had bold action rifles. And we never heard of these types of incidents that were seeing today. now everything is about emulating Call of Duty. When I was a kid I had no interest in building an AR 15, participating in events that simulated, shooting people, etc. I just wanted to shoot empty beer bottles with my .22. I just don’t understand what happened in literally just a couple of decades.
@@DwayneAltonJeff Cooper and his tactical obsessions had much to do with modern trends in gun ownership, more focused on shooting people than shooting targets. Tactical people are low IQ, bulls eye shooters, high IQ.
The problem is the people having and raising kids are the kind of people you wouldn't trust to care for an office plant.
Thats’s that the world we live in. There’s always going to be that issue anywhere.
@@rookie4582says the guy living in the only country where this is a regular occurrence
@@mungy27 Happens around the world. Difference is, we have complete freedom of the press and Media loves focus on the worst.
@@rookie4582 it doesn't tho lol tell me what the country with the 2nd most school sh**tings is and how many
@@mungy27 Dunno, about the second, but the first appears to be 'murica. Just saw another one in the last 24 hours, and I swear the kid doesn't appear to have any idea about what he just did or why he did it. If the parents could care for an office plant I'd be impressed. This shit doesn't just happen, it's created.
I started firearm education on my kids, and now grandkids at @ age 4. Teaching kids about firearms takes away some of the mysticism of the gun, and that is best done as soon as they are mature enough to remember and and understand the dangers of guns.
"the dangers of guns" was a poor choice of words, the requirement for safe practices. Might be a more fitting choice.
Danger is there with many things why deny it.@@TonyYork-KB9RAO
@@TonyYork-KB9RAO No, lets not cater to the "politically correct" yuppyism. Even a low power pellet gun can give a life changing injury if it takes an eye out. Gun safety isn't about using politically correct terminology. It's about... well actual gun safety. Don't point the gun at anything unless you are OK with making a messy and permanent hole in it. The sooner kids understand that guns can be dangerous the better.
^5!
I too first started handling/using firearms at the age of four! (I was a VERY determined daughter!).
Folks love trying to give me grief over this simple tradition, but I refuse to back down/give an inch.
We're Americans. Our 2A Right is literally part of our culture/blood/soul! (Or, SHOULD be)
I started at 5 years old, my dad was SUPER strict on how to hold them and control them safely. Even after that lesson he said it was best to apply those same things to nerf guns, so that im constantly practicing my safety. Now at 22 after moving back to NC after a long while in anti gun massachusetts, ive bought myself my first AR and 10mm handgun. And those same lessons he taught me ring true. Havent had an issue the 5 times ive gone to the range. Thanks dad for being so strict with me. The muscle memory hasnt changed a bit.
We live in a heavy urban environment. My daughter is 14 and is in a school marksmanship club.
I love teaching her at the weekends and watching her in competitions.
Grew up in Maine. It was explained to me that gun proofing a child is better than child proofing a gun. Too bad,90 of gun owners shouldn't
You can do both!
How old is a kid before you teach them not to play with wall outlets? You don't turn off the electric until they are 12 it's a taught life skill starting from (almost) birth.
@@andystampfli9127I started teaching mine when they were able to pick one up and understand what I was telling them.
Massad Ayoob wrote the book!
Hurry up
I started learning at 10yrs. BB gun and 410 single shotgun. Knowing how things works is how I stay safe and keep others safe from mistakes.
As always, your common sense approach reigns supreme!!!👍👍👏
Amen to that! He reminds me of my dad
True common sense. That's an important distinction.
@@robbyparks6395 how is it supreme when we have school sh**tings so routinely?
Hello Sir, I trained all 3 of my grandkids about firearms. First the 4 rules of firearm safety. Then took to the range. From 22, 410. Then as they got older, 30 06, pistols, 12 ga.
Know they are in college and know firearms are tools, to be used responsibly. And we go deer hunting yearly
My wife's father is a gun guy but doesn't believe in "toy" guns for children. I can see the logic in this but it wasn't how I was raised myself. I started shooting early like around 7-8 years old and learned the difference between real guns on the range and on the hunt and toys. The same with video games with driving/racing/demo derby games compared to real driving.
Rance here, you are correct. Take the curiosity of guns away by allowing them to handle any gun anytime only in your presence. Children will always do what you have instructed them NOT EVER to do.
*ABSOLUTELY correct,* and a VERY keen observation!
Children are infinitely curious, and they're designed that way for good reason!
There was a study done with two sets of siblings. They were one kid at 4 or 5 and the other a couple years older. One set grew up with guns and the other had parents who were against guns. They put all of the kids in a room with toys and hid a pistol in a box. All of the parents were watching as one of the kids who didn't live with guns found it. He took it out of the box and started playing with it. The little boy from the other family alerted his older sister and she took the gun from the kid and put it in the box while her little brother went to tell an adult. The smiles on their parents faces, while the other parents were horrified told the whole story. They did this study with a couple of other sets of kids and it played out almost the same way. One was where a kid who lived with guns found it (was the older sibling), closed the box, and sent their sibling to tell an adult, meanwhile the other kids were trying to get at the box and she had to keep pushing them away from it.
I like the conversation about love and peace.
Being concerned about ourselves and about others.
Life is precious.
And though it is fun to go out to the range, the real reason why we have weapons is to protect life, to spare as many lives as possible should that ever present itself to us.
So, having the conversation about gun safety…but, more importantly (to me) also speaking more positively about our society and about the people we share our community with.
Instilling in our children positivity and goodness.
We as adults tend to talk and act too negatively and too recklessly about all sorts of topics; our kids are listening.
I grew up being trained by a WWII Army soldier. He would take me hunting using a bolt action .22 rifle. There wasn't any ambiguity about handling or using this rifle. His gun safety training was done nicely but with absolutes.
Years later I went into the Marines, and I found out that his safety training went beyond what we were taught. There wasn't an uncomfortable moment for me other than getting used to shooting an M-14.
I started acquiring a hunting rifle, pistol and shotgun before I got married. Our marriage produced 4 children. I gave no access to my children with these firearms until I started individual training around 8 or 9 years old. First thing was the 4 points of gun safety.
I took my children to the range and they with ear protection stood next to me, just to acclimate to being around a gun. None of them were forced or coerced into picking up a gun, let alone shoot it. Three out of four decided they wanted to shoot. One decided that it just wasn't something he was interested in. Two out of the four own handguns. I gave my son one after he was asking me what I think he should buy. I asked him to go to the range and shoot all those we brought with us. Then I asked him which one did he like. He indicated that he liked the Ruger 9mm. Then I said, it's now yours.
I went to Academy Sports with my daughter and had her pick one. She had already shot most of mine over the years. She identified a 9mm that she liked, and I bought it for her.
The only thing I wanted my children to know at a young age, if you see a gun, don't pick it up. Tell an adult if you see what laying around in their house. If no adult is around, call me or your mom.
*BINGO!*
Papa too was a Vet ('Nam). He was one of the most easy-going, but fiercely intense Man when things became 'Real/Serious.' Handling weaponry was the one time I was actually scared of him (For what I'd seen him do, and his extreme focus. No one who ever met that gaze/expression doubted he was someone who could do exactly what he said.).
From CQC (Hand-to-hand, knives, tomahawks (Yes, THOSE)), and then firearms, he raised all four of his children to be self sufficient and that included self defense.
He was an absolute terror if we EVER treated his training lightly, or misused it in any way. We quickly learned none of it was a 'Game.'
"Thank you, Papa! Your love, determination and hard work, has served me/my brothers very, very well!"
:-)
@@AniwayasSongMy grandfather is a Vietnam Veteran...he is scared of guns, but lately I have been helping him over his fear. He is a blue no matter who guy if you know what I mean, and he wants most things banned...so we don't get along that well.
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I too am a Veteran, USMC, with two Tours under my Cover. I know/have known Vets who served (In Combat or in a wartime theater of operations, if not on the front lines themselves), who HATE firearms. They've seen the gore and mayhem that can happen.
I don't hate or disrespect anyone who chooses to NOT 'Keep and bear arms.' It is (And should be) a personal choice, and I far prefer those who do not want to, don't, rather than be forced to. I trust someone willing and able to have and use firearms over someone who is not, in other words.
I have had the honor of meeting and introducing so many people to firearms. (I've lost count, but near a hundred by now?). It is so amazing going from 'Practical Application' (ie, Classroom setting) to the firing line, and then seeing their reaction once they begin going down the path towards that vital Right ("Keeping and BEARING arms.")
I know this is not a uniquely 'American' concept. There are more societies/cultures throughout the world, and history, that had/has a 'Warrior Caste' ideal, and for damned good reason.
The world is not, and likely never will be, 'Safe.' That is just a simple fact.
It is also a fact that many 'Bad guys' prey on other people, and they prefer to do so against those weaker/less protected when they do it (Cowardice, it is a trait amongst evil).
I know of no other tool invented by Mankind, that is more effective at self preservation, than a firearm.
I knew how to take a mag out and check a chamber by the time I was 10.
I didn't trust my little sister with that.
I just want people to be okay.
I'm worried about movies that are casual about violence or games where people can get revived if they are shot.
It's not like that in real life.
We need to treat weapons with respect.
Fearing them isn't great, but getting your youth used to the presence of shooting and offering shooting to them is healthy I think.
That way, they don't have to be uncomfortable and pushed into shooting if they don't want to.
Hickok, you are good for my blood pressure. Thank you for being a source of reason and a reflection of the upbringing of this 70 year old man. Bless you dear sir.
Enjoy your practical insights Mr Hickok.
I think this was a real good idea to talk about this topic. You're right, Gun Safety, has to be taught to younger people the instant they touch a firearm or are around any. Take and Be Safe.
Great topic (especially) today…we raised two girls now 35/42…one is more comfortable w guns than the other…but both can shoot.. one has hunted and taken deer w me…I believe they learned firearms and life by example…kids listen and learn at home…I didn’t push them to guns and I never shielded them from guns…if they saw me handling a gun and were curious I satisfied that curiosity as appropriate for their age…they understand firearms.
Hi there in the Beautiful Hills of Tennessee!
The approach of removing any kind of curiosity (and doubts) is very pedagogical !
Although I am living in a country where firearms are not allowed for civilians, I totally agree with the fact that teaching and educating kids the firearm safety issues starts by "muzzle discipline" when playing with their toy guns....
The earlier kids get good gun handling "mechanisms", the better they will be familiar with guns, the safer they can be introduced to gun owning and shooting ...
Postponing Safety Issues is not an option ...
Thanks Mister Kinman for sharing your knowledge and wisdom !
Much appreciated ! 🙏🏻
I grew up in farm country illinois. We had guns pretty much everywhere. Behind the front door and back door, in garage, in barn, in our bedrooms. Noone ever got killed. My dad let us have access to real guns at around 10 with supervision and we had our own by 13. We hunted and shot for fun. Our grandpa would pay us a nickel for every starling we could kill. We shot a lot of pigeons, opposums, raccoons, snakes and even coyotes. We had a great childhood in the 70s.
Ditto! I wish my grandkids could grow up in the same USA I did. Sad
Pretty much the same for me. In school 90% of the guys carried a prized pocket knife and most also had a can of Copenhagen. There was NEVER any type of violence in any schools , other than the occasional knuckle lesson. The public schools and even most colleges turned into indoctrination centers by the deep state globalists. Sad but true.
This is how I grew up in rural/suburban Michigan in the 90s. I can't believe how quickly things got turned around. Our biggest issue is a nationwide mental health crisis, not a gun crisis. If we didn't have guns, it would be like the UK with knives. People with evil intent will anyways find a way. But why do people have evil intent so often now?
@@mattd.4133 Same here. In school, most guys carried a prized pocket knife and a can of Copenhagen. Other than an occasional knuckle sandwich between guys usually over a girl, there was NEVER any type of violence we see now. The schools and most colleges have turned into nothing but indoctrination centers by the deep state globalists. Sad but true.
@RT-qd8yl You are absolutely right brother.
I think you covered this topic with insight and clarity so thoroughly that I have nothing to add.
I always felt that parents should model the behavior they expect from their children. This is true in so many ways, but since we are talking about children and guns, we'll start with modeling safe gun handling. If you are reckless with your handling of guns, then your children will likely exhibit that same behavior.
I grew up in rural Georgia. We had one double barrel shotgun in the house. It was kept behind my parents bedroom door. My dad was an occasional hunter, mostly quail and rabbits. When I was young, like most young boys my age, I got a Daisy BB gun. My first real gun was a single shot 410. I think I was 10 or 11 when I got my 22 rifle. Rode my bike up and down the road picking up soda bottles to cash in to buy ammo. It was a great time to be a kid.
In high school, I remember one year the shop teacher tried to establish a rifle team. We shot 22 rifles in a range we built in the basement of one of the school buildings. Not sure why that only occured one year. I think he tried to establish a league, but there was little interest from other schools. I also remember during deer season, just about every pickup in the student parking lot had a 30-30 or a shotgun displayed in a rack in the back window of the pickup. Nobody freaked out. It was a normal part of growing up in the rural South. No one would ever dream of bringing a gun into the school to shoot up the place.
This is the day after the school shooting in Winder, GA. Winder is a semi-rural community about one hour north east of Atlanta. It is probably the last place one would expect an event like that to occur. So, what happened to our kids that we went from guns in the pickup trucks to shooting up the school?
As a teacher, a shooter, and a parent I can offer an answer to your question. Cell phones, tablets, and the internet has played a bigger role in this generation than their parents do. From their earliest memory they’ve had a tablet or cell phone slowly smoothing their brains while their parents ignore them because they seemed occupied and out of sight. Parents (the vast majority) have not actively participated in parenting over the past 15 years and now here we are dealing with an entire generation of teenagers who were literally raised by cell phones. It’s a bigger problem in the classroom than anyone who isn’t a teacher would know. You would be shocked if you walked into the average high school classroom on any given day. 60 eyes glued to little screens which earphones on not even noticing that there’s a lesson going on without an audience. When someone asks what do you do for a living without telling me your job I tell them I sit in a room and talk about science while 30 teenagers ignore me while they scroll social media on their phones. It’s sad.
I totally agree with you but I'd like to add my two cents worth here on the total problem as I see it from a retired 40+ year veteran police officers view..in order of priorities..
#1. Child's upbringing by parents,,most both work now or are in a single parent home and discipline and rules,,respect for anything are lacking massively nowadays..When I was a kid at school and had a beef with someone,,we either did nothing or we duked it out by hand.. No one ever mentioned anyone being shot..Unheard of period,,,60s and 70s..
#2..Bullying!! Seems most of these young shooters were bullied and found a way to get even with their terrible loner world,,to take out people and get their name highlighted in the news with their generally, suicidal final event.
#3..INTERNET!!! Having access to everything immediately,,via cell phones and all other types of electronically means,,,to see the event,,copycat and acquire information on the,,,How to do list,,,and to seek the tools needed for the evil event. And the internet,,especially the social webs,,,allow the children to communicate with others and thus continue to lose the,,,face to face communication skills needed to properly develope their brains to actual people and not a screen view of generally just words. No people skills or very little.. I've witness this continue to get evermore worse as the internet continues to be accessible to these youngsters..
I attribute,,in my educated personal observations in my career and my observations of the news investigations,, most of these violent actions,,,,attacks on fellow students and teachers to the above three listed faults in our current society which continues to escalate..
Of course there are others factors,,natural mental illnesses and drugs but I believe the top three listed are the main contributors to this ongoing evil event..
You know if we,,the USA can spend billions,,trillons on needs here in the USA and the same to foreign countries,,just why can't all our schools be fortified to prevent entry of any gun toting person???
It all boils down to money and the willingness to invest in our schools being properly protected and fortified..can be done,,I would suggest with a huge chunk of this foreign aid funds..Afterall ,what's more important,,foreigners or our own children and teachers,,I vote the later...
I do not blame any firearms..They've been around since the later part of the 1800s and never used, to my knowledge,
in these evil school shootings until about the arrival time of the INTERNET...
I'm 68 yoa and that's my opinion.
Hope Hickok 45 reads this too!!!
Churches are a Problem they have gotten away from teaching the GOSPEL AND BECOME A POLTICAL HACK AND GREEDY EVANGELICALS .😮
Hickok your right safety and trust and age is the thought for concerns how well is the experience for whats known is all I can say for now. Getting properly trained and trusted. What I've learned over the years is how relieved it is from the experience from one energy to another when it is known of the clearing sound.
Thanks you for your contribution and advice. 🙏
I had 3 daughters and 5 grand kids. I teach them safety first. Even toy guns are pointed down unless they are in a pool shooting squirt guns as a toy. I taught them to check a firearm and make sure it is safe to handle. I tested them to make sure they would tell an adult if they found a gun. I started them on BB and Pellet guns with the same safety as a real gun. Then when old enough, start them on simple 22s. Single shot bolt is a good starter. I didn't push them. Some took to guns right away, some needed a few years to show interest but I didn't push them. We also sent them to an official safe gun handling course with other children taught by a local gun store.
Fantastic!❤
Rule #2, Guns are Always loaded
@@aolvaar8792 So, what is your point? Don't play with squirt guns?
@@swhite10539 OP Comment: "I taught them to check a firearm and make sure it is safe to handle."
Rule #2: all guns are loaded
THE GUN IS LOADED, no need to check.
M1911- the safety must be off to rack the slide to check>>
Don't flip the safety off to check the chamber,
#1: point in the direction of least consequences
#3: Keep your finger OFF the trigger
Thank you Hickok. The knowledge you pass along with all your channels is worth more than gold for more reasons than I can count!!
You nailed it Hickok.
I have 3 boys and they live on a range. EVERYTHING you said is what I have done and had wonderful results with. My kids are safe, excellent marksman, and truly enjoy shooting sports. It took time and effort to get em there.
This issue isn't about firearms safety...It's about the breakdown in families and mental health issues. Back in 1969 I was given my first gun at 4 y/o, second one at 8...and was hunting on my own before 10. Raised in the boonies of Ozark Co Mo, Everyone had firearms and none of them were locked or even hidden very well....And most of them were loaded.....And still, none of them magically jumped up and started committing murderous actions. I was also taught respect for other people, human life and the proper ways to handle my anger and emotional responses. Kids today don't seem to have them.
I generally agree with this. We can look at other countries with strict gun laws and see many mass stabbings and poisonings and such. If you took away every gun in America right now, but left this parenting and mental-health travesty the same, ain’t much gonna change.
Again as he said this video is not about mass shootings specifically. Just kids and introducing them safely into firearms.
@@wmpx34 Switzerland is 2nd for gun ownership in Europe & they're way safer than the UK & Australia. Whereas the UK bans knives because teens are stabbing one another. (Knife Control)
You’re right, video games foster the use of guns to vent anger.
@@rancelynch6514 That's not what he said, and blaming video games is just an excuse for poor parenting. It's better to show your kids how to use firearms properly than it is to leave that up to EAgames. The entire planet has got so dumb in the last fifty years.
Today's youth are taught and pointed to all the wrong ways of (violence) pertaining to many weapons of such , just look at all the video games out there!. Self defense is always portrayed as the enemy, hunting for food is the same as well. School systems use to teach proper education and its sad very few have that program these days. Parents ,grandparents have and always will be the forefront & correct way to learn from and respect the tool in there hands. WE NEED MORE OF THIS FOR SURE ,this day and all to come. Bring back educating our youth through schools and clubs , Boy Scouts , Elks Youth Club etc. NRA was a big deal in my youth also and they had some of the best programs out there. Thanks to my family and many many well versed educators such as Hickok45.
A much needed topic of discussion, and many exhalent points. Thank you for sharing your wisdom Hickok 45.
I’m with you on educating children about such things. It’s the parents’ responsibility.
In regard to the recent Georgia tragedy, since this video was released, more details about the accused have bubbled up. Sounding like, if the reports are to believed, there were a number of other issues that may have contributed to making the problem and education may not have been a factor at all.
Not a bad talk, Hickok - Data-point: I took my first deer at age 7, using grandpa's .30-30 (with his full knowledge) and prior to that, was running around with capguns, pellet guns, BB guns and water guns from too far back to remember. I grew up with guns easily accessible - A .22 sitting in the corner behind the kitchen door for plinking crows in the graden, a deer rifle hung above the sink in the kitchen for taking deer through the window when they came to eat windfall apples, a shotgun near the back door, a rifle inside the barn door, another shotgun in the sap-house - all of them always loaded and ready for use, plus a glass-front gun cabinet in the living room with the "heavy artillery" in it (with the key laying on top of the "B" volume of the Encyclopedie Britannica in its case next to the gun cabinet) Was gifted my first "this is *YOUR* rifle now" gun after a final repetition of the safety lecture (Treat it like it's always loaded, don't point it at anything you don't want to kill, etc) on my 10th birthday. To date, one unintended (nope, not negligent, and not truly accidental - unintended) discharge that did no damage 'cause it hit the berm, and nothing even resembling a close call, almost 50 years and I-can-'t-even-guess-how-many rounds later. I'm "kid-free" (thank the gods...) but I truly believe in "teach 'em young" if you want gun-safe kids. Your "If you wanna mess with it, just ask" concept is an *EXCELLENT* way to "demystify" guns.
What happened that you refer to as “unintended”?
@@Omlet221 Was first time out of the box with a new rifle at the range. Lever gun, checking it out at the request of my landlord, who'd just bought it. Loaded it up, fired 3-4 rounds, decided I needed to give the windage a click or two left - after I'd already jacked the next round (of 10+ left in the mag, if I remember rightly) into the chamber. Went to half-cock safety it as the book described, but overshot the half-cock notch, and had to draw the hammer back to try to catch it.
Now, specifically BECAUSE I was fiddling with the trigger and hammer of a first-time-being-fired-by-me rifle that I knew without a doubt had a live one in the pipe, I was being "paranoid careful" to keep it pointed at the impact zone while I did the operation. And good thing that was the case, because when I started to try drawing the hammer back to catch the half-cock notch, I lost my grip on it, and and the berm ate another bullet and spit out a few chips of rubber.
Not negligent - I was taking every care.
Not accidental - I was quite deliberately pulling the trigger and manipulating the hammer on a gun known to have a live round in the chamber.
Except that because my grip was bad, (in hindsight, I should have had my thumb further across the spur than it was) there was a discharge I didn't intend to happen . But while it was neither truly accident, nor negligent, there's no question that it was an UNINTENDED discharge. I was, in fact, in the act of taking the maker's specified steps to prevent it from discharging, when my bad grip on the hammer of a new-to-my-hands gun let it get loose, and the drop was long enough to touch off the round.
But, on the good side, as already noted, when you're at the range, the berm is where your rounds are SUPPOSED TO land after being discharged, so I count it as a "no harm, no foul" unintended discharge - and a learning experience.
Of course, yes, once I dropped the hammer and knew that it had fired, I said "t'hell with it", didn't jack the lever - a gun with a known-fired round in the chamber is as safe as a gun with no round in the chamber at all - considered it "safed" enough for the adjustment, clicked the windage, and went back to shooting. Turned out I needed 3 clicks total to get it properly on the paper.
You should do a show with Autumn and her dad from Autumns armory. She’s a great example of a responsible youth gun enthusiast.
She is well taught........has a good channel.
Great video as always Hickok, growing up my mother told us when playing with toy guns to NEVER point them at anyone. From a young age that really taught us the foundation of gun safety and I'm thankful for that.
100% how it's done. My son and many of his friends know it's no joke. But it can still be a great time.
I have a son that is closer than I'd like to being a teenager. I've taken him shooting multiple times and we've talked about guns. I think you give some sage advice for those who haven't encountered the teenage years. Many thanks.
Your even keeled attitude and perspectives ground us all. Thank you Hickok45
I like the Eddie Eagle program.
Great topic sound advise. We live in a stressful world, the risks are too great to leave gun safety to chance we must do everything to make sure of responsible gun ownership. Guns provide great sport, target shooting and hunting. Everyone listen to HICKOK and stay safe.
Grew up with toy guns, squirt guns, BB guns, played violent video games, played with g I joes and grew up to be a normal adult. Some kids need more time to mature and understand and separate real life from make believe. Also witnessing my dad and uncles have numerous ND in and outside the house put the fear of god into me about guns and not mishandling them.
I'm in Cali and have my 11 year old daughter i8s totally trained with firearms. The girl can shoot, she has such a steady hand and is so accurate. she is the only one in her school that knows anything about gun safety and use, she is my little Annie Oakley!!
So much respect to Hickok 45 for having a conversation, especially during these crazy times when they are needed the most. Too many of our biggest gun influencers on UA-cam are quiet and afraid to have a conversation. I am very fortunate that I was raised the same way Mr. & Mrs Hickok45 raised John. My parents are the same exact age age as Hickok45, and yes, I have kept it going and raised my children the same way. I have a " hunting/ gun room " that everything is stored in and locked up tight. My boys did not get the code and key to that Gun Room until several months after their high school graduation. 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅
All i can say is almost putting a hole in my leg with dad's revolver when i was 7 taught me that guns arent toys and must be respected
Good to c you here.
I started teaching gun safety to my son at 3 years old. I also told him if he ever wanted to shoot all he need do is to ask me. Sometimes I wasn't in the mood or was busy but I would stop and take him to shoot. It kept him satisfied and removed the mystic. ( I was writing this as you said basically the same thing) I believe that this is key in teaching firearm safety for younger kids.
As a kid I was able to get any of my fathers guns I would stand in front of the gun rack and look at their but I never touched them without permission with the exception of one time I got one for self defense ( but didn't have to use it).
Lmao at the cat yodeling in the back ground “HICKOCK PAY ATTENTION TO ME”
Mr Hickok, you are great and I agree with 100 percent what you said. Been watching you for a while now, Love from France.
Dad taught me first at 8 yrs. He was very strict about safety. You never get a second chance was the quote. I was allowed to hunt a 9. My brother had to wait he was 2 yrs younger but dad was strict and made him wait till he showed some responsibility. I guess I matured sooner. We hunted together never missed an opening day for 30 years. I miss him I have followed his lead with my own children. All must know even if the passi o n isn't there they should be trained. Love this channel
My Dad (NYPD) had the same philosophy of just ask to see it and he would provide that opportunity. I used it with both of my sons and now they are raising their children that way.
my dad was the same way when I was small, told me if I was curious about them and wanted to see and handle them or go shooting, all I had to do was ask, and to that end never to go near them without his permission and direct supervision. Now I'm somewhat of an avid gun guy myself, and I fully intend to teach my kids the same if and when I have them. greetings from the Jersey side of the river btw.
Love the channel. The bottom line is good parenting starts with good parenting. It’s that simple.
I am enjoying all three channels. thanks for all the content sir. 🇺🇸
You’ve given me some things to think about. However for me personally, I feel I have to wait awhile before I feel like my son is mature enough and responsible enough to handle a firearm. That’s just me. It’s not so much about age, it’s knowing your child isn’t too impatient or impulsive.
I will start my children's firearms training at 8, but will learn hands off basic safety even younger.
"I ain't thunk about it yet" ~~~ love it
One thing that always stuck with me was when I took hunter safety. I was probably 8. They made me shoot a chuck roast to see what a bullet did to flesh. Always stuck with me, and it’s something I’m going to do with my 8 yo soon. Great video. Love what you do. Keep it up.
My kids are 10 and 9 and I have learned them on guns their entire lives and have had zero issues! Education is key and I know I can trust them around loaded weapons and know they won’t FAFO
My brother is pretty anti gun but he grew up in the same family I did, with plenty of gun training. Even his kids will see my dad’s gun chilling in the holder by his chair and say “that is for adults, I cannot touch that” and know better than to handle guns. We’ve explained the danger of them many times but they still aren’t old enough for shooting.
I learned about shooting from the Junior Rifle Club which was the adjunct to the Idaho Rifle and Pistol Club affiliated with the NRA in the 5th grade. They taught .22lr rifle target competitions indoors, and trap and skeet outdoors. This came about after we had been taught gun safety and shooting at our public elementary school from 1st grade on up. Every year volunteers taught basic gun safety to all school age children with the permission of their parents. Life was precious to us back then and we gun proofed our kids.
Mr. Hickok45, soo much wisdom. Agree with everything you said, specially the curiosity perspective.
PS: Hickok45 for President!
Your comments on teenagers are spot on.
Fascinating how things change over time. The official enlistment age for the Continental Army was 16, (15 with parental consent). As a youngster, I don't remember any of my buddies not having a 3 or 4 spot open shelf wooden gun rack with that little drawer at the bottom for ammo. To the best of my recollection, the set up was always similar, a bow up top, single shot .22 rifle in the second spot and .410 break open shotgun in the bottom position and this was in NJ circa 1968. At any rate, I'm certainly not advocating folks do that today, but it was a thing back then. Good vid.
In the high school I attended 50 years ago, we were ALLOWED to bring our own firearm on campus on ROTC sponsored days of marksmanship. I remember others bringing in .22 pistols in discreet cases that could pass for a clarinet case. I remember seeing the Ruger Mark I all the way to a gorgeous High Standard. No student even thought of shooting another. It NEVER happened. What are we doing wrong now? What were we doing right back then? These murderers have regressed into dark ages behavior. We also put people in mental institutions back then. We pay less attention to mental health now than we did before. Much less. Additionally, just look at the streets of any large American city. You will find the mentally ill among the homeless & that is just the tip of the iceberg.
Mental institutions were seen as inhuman! how inhumane is it having mentally ill people living in the streets NEGLECRED by society. The do good people didn't put enough work into correcting the institutions and making them better. They seemed to open the gates and forget about them. Life is very difficult today its too fast for many and too demanding for many. Humans were not meant to live like this, we have to find a better balance generally.
Short version:
Born '69. I don't remember a time when I didn't know anything about guns. Had the opportunity to walk out the back (or front) door and shoot. Just a natural thing to do.
Found it harder to get my son and daughter interested. Living in town makes it way less natural.
Also ... we could entertain ourselves by throwing rocks.
Way more entertainment/distractions today.
Tennessee has a great hunter education program. I would encourage anyone to take their children through an "in person" class if possible. There's no charge for the in person classes and it provides a great introduction to firearm safety! You don't have to ever hunt if that's not for you, but attend a hunter education class.
The Family’s morals and values is most important
Safety is pretty important. Glad you came out with this video. Your background as a teacher is pretty huge I think.
Im a young german so i likely will never own a gun, sadly and i also dont have children yet but i really need to say how much i appreciate the information given, its clearly very well thought out. Much love Hickok, have been watching "guntube" since i was a little kid basically, and somehow just found out about the talks channel a few days ago and really loving this... Im kind of fed up with the whole shooting stuff that blows up and making amateur tests with firearms, i love the talking side of things and the actual information side way more these days and this is basically perfect for the talking about gun related topics.
Whats stopping you from owning one? You definitely can
@@mrks998 Well the amount of money it costs etc, just dont think its worth yet also i would like to carry concealed which i would need to research the laws on that etc... Just annoying over all.
My dad was teaching me gun safety by the age of 7 or 8 and taught me much the same way you taught John. He got me a BB gun when I was 12 and we would plink empty beer cans in the back yard often...doing this allowed him to teach me fundamentals that would carry over to shooting live ammo with little transition.
Omg...hehe...the youngster 12 gauge trial by fire move...5 rounds of #8 low brass...and finish with high brass last shot...stand by and help catch the gun...hehe happened to me and I passed it on to my boys...great fun
Im the same way with my daughters, i kinda trained her to point the toy guns in a safe direction when shes walking around the house and to store it in a specific way etc. and i almost didnt want to do the toy guns too. It definitely helps to have other people come in when it comes to range time too, as well as literally seeing the destructive force when it comes time to operate "real" firearms. I agree on the teenagers, especially in todays society. Great points.
So more than anyone wanted to hear, In Minnesota I was a Hunters safety instructor. We had a Black powder section , Archery section and my section was " Modern Arms section where we shot handguns, revovers, left and right hand bolt action22LR then up through the calibers, I had a lady show up because her father and child had been thier the year before and she wanted to have that same fun!
I started with my daughter when she was 3 with a plastic cap gun and plastic holster. Taught her to always point it at the ground and keep her finger off the trigger until she is aiming and ready to fire. I worked on that with her for about 6 months until she fully grasped it.
When she was 4 I bought her a single-shot crickett .22 and took her out to some family friend's property. I showed her how to load it, I held it for her and she pulled the trigger, ejected the round and loaded a new one. At 5 years old she can aim, shoot and load the crickett by herself but she knows that she is not to touch a gun unless I'm present and she asks me. All my firearms are locked in a safe apart from wall hangers / stuff I don't have ammo for.
From an early age she's helped me load magazines, clean guns, etc. Like you said, that helped remove curiosity and I think that is important but remember, their friends will not be the same.. They will still have that curiosity so make sure shit is locked up.
She's going to be 6 this year and I got her a Ruger Charger since she loves shooting cans/bottles of soda and I figured she can really have some fun with a charger lol.
having a gun club is crazy and would put you on a no fly list nowadays, wish shit was that cool when i went to school
Thats all fine and good however some kids have anger issues that they cant control so they want to hurt someone, i believe it's a mental health issue there has to be something very wrong with any one young or older that wants to hurt anyone with a gun.
I took the oversaturation approach with my kids. I told them, they could never touch the guns without me, it’s just too dangerous. But anytime they wanted to see/touch them just ask me and I’ll go get them so they can. So they did and every time they asked me, I’d go get them and then use it as an excuse to go over the 4 rules of gun safety, showed them how to load/unload, make safe and just talked about what to do if they ever were outside the house and a gun appeared. In a short amount of time, they got over their curiosity and stopped asking. Never had an issue and now that they’re older they are educated on gun safety.
My dad started introducing me to guns at around 5 years old. Showing me the power that they have and how they are to be safely handled. When my own son was young and had this fascination with a new gun I had bought. I took him to shoot the new gun. I went first and when it was his turn, he had jumped in the truck with his fingers in his ears. Him seeing the power and sound scared the crap out of him. I took a few years until he matured before he was ready to learn about guns. They have to grow up with respect for firearms and safety has to be taught over and over.
As a parent, grandparent and teachers, I concur.
Currently teaching a group of children BB gun and target plinking. The intro day and beyond we use the acronym MATS
M- muzzle control and always down range or in a safe direction.
A- the Action of said tool should be cleared with visual inspection.
T- Trigger discipline, finger should never be on it until it is time to actually shoot at target.
S- Safety should be On when handling any arms and also passed between shooters.
Always respect the Hickock perspective and pointers. Godbless
My biggest concern is their access to firearms and also the increased amount of drugs being prescribed to you individuals for ADHD, Depression, Anxiety or all three. This is something that has really grown over the past 20-30 years and is turning these kids brain to mush. Would love to see a toxicology report on the shooter.
SSRI meds have changed the emotional landscape of today’s kids. Spot on
I’ve always felt that it’s good to start with a .22 rifle, rather than handguns. It seems like kids are more likely to whip around a handgun in the wrong direction than a long gun. My Dad started me with a single-shot .22 rifle, shooting empty shotgun shells, which taught me the value of taking my time and marksmanship rather than just spraying rounds down range.
parenting done right. taboo is deadly. education is key
Hickock45, I was raised and taught about firearms all my life, when I was 8, I would earn a quarter a week to collect eggs every day and later got a nickel bounty on any varmint that crawled out of the creek into the garden. I could walk to the country store and buy a box of 50 Peters shorts for 27 cents. I had toy guns for play but I had access to a Winchester #67 for varmints &. Home protection. I was taught the difference and understood. Pop said a lot of accidental shootings, people are killed by unloaded guns.
I have lived by this for 70 years. It is not the gun, it is ignorance that is the danger, especially in ab automobile.
My parents would not let us kids (all 6) have bb guns. My Dad, a WW2 vet. but we were allowed to handle the real rifles and shotguns. Dad felt that we needed to respect guns and not treat them like toys. We had to show Dad that we knew how to check that they were unloded. Even at a young age I was allowed to get one out of the gun cabinet and clean em. NEVER any issues and no curiosity either.
I Had a BB gun growing up that an adult was using and it bounced off of a toy car and the BB nearly went all the way through my ankle. They had to make another hole on the other side to dig it out.
@@cindileggitt1336 ricochet is a nasty word 🫥
@@cindileggitt1336 Wow! that sounds like loads of fun! 🤕
@@James-h1o8h Auto correct keeps trying to correct it even though I know that I'm spelling it correctly and I didn't want deal with people endlessly telling me that I misspelled it. So, I guess it bounced.
@@larrynason8716 Surprisingly the BB didn't hurt much but the huge needle that the doctor stuck in my butt cheek sure did. 😂
Excellent
Just saw you on my feed.
Let's thank the first responders for there quick response time to disarm the suspect. Had toy guns as a kid. Always was told not to point at people. I Shot 22 at summer camp as a boy Took a hunters safety course as a teen . I couldn't even imagine anything evil as a youth teen like the school shootings from this era.
UA-cam recommended this to me so I guess I am honored to learn your wisdom. Lol.
@Hickock45Talks I don’t know if you’d want to open this particular can of worms, but given your experience in schools, maybe it would be good to hear your take on school shooting prevention?
Eddie Eagle program.
I started shooting small caliber arms like .22 pretty early at around 10 or so and started hunting at 12 both closely supervised by dad. I had one negligent discharge while hunting and my dad had to talk about muzzle discipline a couple times but other than that, I was safe. I think the most important thing is to keep guns locked up especially around teenagers like you said. If you buy your kid a gun of their own, keep it in your safe but try to take them shooting as often as you can.
My dad gave me a Winchester model 1904 22 caliber rifle when I was 12…my grandfather gave it to him when he was a kid…I was taught by my dad to shoot…never allowed to touch the gun unless he was there…learned to respect the gun like I did my dad
I still have the Remington 12A pump .22 that I first learned to shoot at my Father's and Grandfather's hands at Grandpa's "farm" ( a gentleman's farm of maybe 7 acres). As a kid I knew where Dad had stored the 1911 .45 ACP that was Grandpa's in WWI. Sure, I snuck a few invasions to check it out. No one was ever shot or killed. I was taught how to handle firearms and respect the danger. I earned my .45 thumb scar honestly when I was allowed to shoot the pistol with a thumb over grip. Scar is still there 56 years later (I'm 64).
Grandpa was in WWI and never hunted afterwards (he'd been turned off to killing - I respect that). Dad was never a hunter. I picked it up on my own. They taught me how to shoot . . . but not how to hunt. Happily I linked up with a friend's family that had a long hunting tradition and treasure all my time having hunted with them . . . and now, having survived them all, my time alone in my own woods in pursuit of whitetail. I also had the great good fortune to hook up with a traditionbal bowhunter mentor (recurves and wood arrows) and I still find that as the purest method of hunting. Taking a whiteail deer while on foot at ground level with a sightless bow is a real test of a hunter.
As for home defense. Yes, I have a 9mm, 20 gauge SxS, that 1911. All ready for defense. I have no kids in the home and raise chickens so, maybe, there are a .22 LR and .223 REM loaded by the back door. Maybe.
We never had firearms in our house growing up, but my grandpa owns a number of them. Grandpa hunted when he was younger, before he had his heart attack. My brother and I did have cap guns, like most 70s kids. Anyway, Grandpa told us on may occasion that you don't point a gun, even a toy one, at someone unless you intend to use it ... A gun is a tools not toys.
I'm a 75yr old former 'yoot' living in the inner-city. Been shooting since I was about 10. When our kids were small the most repeated phrase with their toy guns was "Only point it at things, never people." Once they were old enough to handle the responsibility, they went with me to the local indoor gun range to experience the real thing. My son and I still shoot together regularly - handgun, rifle and trap and we both are proud concealed carry permit holders.
I bought my first gun at 16. Auto5 shotgun I got from an old vet at my first job. My parents never knew and probably wouldn’t have agreed. I’m 27 and since that time a lot has changed. Kids can’t get jobs, Red flag laws, and my state bumped up the buying age(Florida) at 20 I was selling firearms but I wasn’t legally able to buy a handgun yet handled them everyday plus ammo. I owned bows and air guns. I would agree with people being trained but really with the shooting I think this delves into parenting. Proscribed drugs are definitely a problem in these instances especially when media doesn’t ask that question but really parents need to be more involved. They should know who the kid looks up to (say if it’s a pop star or a mass casualty maker) and if they are going though a bad time say depression. What I see in a lot of these cases is it’s one or both plus extra. The parents just live they’re life thinking it won’t happen and totally pass up red flags they could have seen. This also goes for than just shootings but also self endings. Parents say we never saw it or they touch the subject but the parent could have but didn’t know.
I am now leo trained and I look at it as such. This isn’t a ban guns issue as the problem will not be solved. There’s so much more to each situation. There’s multiple reasons always to why a situation goes bad. Normally it’s because a couple people messed up not just once
I'm 79. When we were young Arkansas kids, we carried guns everywhere. We mostly target practiced , but hunted too. We never thought about shooting someone. I think God was taken out of the schools and out of family life. God needs to be lifted up in our society!
That’s going to be the most difficult problem, I’m in my 20’s an most people my age ether fully understand it, or you can’t even bring it up. It really is two different worlds. I really don’t know how to remedy that. Besides trying to teach the next generation coming up
Religion is necessary for many to keep their moral compasses from going off the rails. There are others who inherently just have enough emotional stability and maturity to avoid trouble.
We need hunter safety training with a test afterwards like they did after school in my elementary school cafeteria. If we wanted to hunt or skeet shoot, our parents had us take it.
Very rare to hear of a school shooter who is being raised by both their biological parents in a functioning home.
I was to till REPUBLICANS GIVE GOD A GUN.SEPERATION OF GOD AND GUNS.😊
When I hear this legend speak, I imagine him as my scout master..even at 33 years of age
As a child, I was not allowed to have toy guns, because my parents didn't want me to think of guns as toys. I respect that position. Feel free to disagree politely.
I was gifted a .22 rifle as a teen (allegedly because I would "respect it more than I would a BB gun"), but was given zero instruction regarding safety or what we now consider the four rules of firearm safety. I have never forgiven my father for that negligence, even as I am very glad I didn't harm anyone while shooting plants and paper targets in the woods behind my house.
A few months later, I enrolled in ROTC my freshman year of high school, and learned a bit more about how to shoot and when to not shoot.
I have grandkids, now, so I've been thinking about how to introduce the topic. I of course will discuss it with their parents first, and follow agreed-upon age-appropriate teachings.
I'm not pretending to know everything about your past, obviously, so please feel free to correct me if I assume something wrongly
Giving a teenager a gun after denying them any experience with them throughout their childhood and then not teaching basic safety and respect for the weapon is shockingly irresponsible
Really glad to hear you managed to avoid a serious problem and I hope you can bestow upon your grandkids what your father did not unto you
Years ago I did what H45 is talking about with all the kids we took care of, they could see/handle any weapon we owned as long as they asked and we never had an issue..
Grew up with firearms starting at a very early age. Had access to guns by elementary school age. Been a gun nut ever since
I had a couple bb guns as a kid. But, didnt own a firearm until i turned 21. It was a Marlin 336 30-30. My favorite rifle.
I introduced guns and my bow to my neice and nephew when they were young. I let them shoot my 22 levergun. I tried to get my nephew to shoot my muzzleloader. But, he wasn't interested. He still doesn't show much interest in guns. I don't know what's wrong with him 🤷♂️🤣
They were loaded all around the house when I was a kid I always knew never to put my finger on the triggers