Self esteem is key. I married a sociopath. He found me when I was extremely vulnerable. He almost killed me one night. He also smashed all my front teeth out. Just devastating. But, now I can spot these people as if they signs above their heads!! If someone pushes your boundaries, they're not a good person. They're showing you that they don't value your feelings - so, either run or if you have to deal with them, eg. they're a family member or a fellow parent at your kid's school, etc. keep them on the periphery and don't let them "in." That's my 2 cents!
Im SO sorry this happened to you but so happy you lived and can spot them. What advice would you give to someone that was married to someone with disturbing poss sociopathic or psychopathic behavior that wanted to get away but was afraid for their life or their lives and the lives of their children?
You poor angel, teeth are so important and it’s so painful when they’re messed with!! 💔💔💔 I’m glad you got away and can now spot abusers. My abusers were mainly fellow women and I’ve learned now too. Keep telling your story!!
I am happy you got out, I agree, yet, narcs will tell you and make you believe you are pushing their boundaries bc you want to talk about your feelings but they are done with the conversation. So they flip the script on you... Its so crazy making....
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Holy shitsticks! 😮 I just broke it off with a sociopath a month ago and (met online) when I asked him how he found me, he replied "I heard about your former abusive relationship and thought "Perfect, she's weak, she'll be a perfect victim" and now you're saying you were down and out too. This cant be coincidences, they ARE looking for weak people. The violence is extreme. I had a severe stress reaction that lasted a year during which he stepped up the abuse. He told me he fistpunched his ex during sex as in punching her all over during..it and that he fantasized about cutting womens throats and hanging them upside down draining their blood. He planned on taking me on a trip (he was within the military) and when I didnt go along, he said it wasnt for the destination he had promised but to the war in ukraine where he would take me down a bunker and shoot me in the back of my head and then himself. I am in therapy noe and have read all about cluster Bs the past 6 years but hearing it straight from another victim REALLY helps. THANK YOU, sweet woman for this golden coin! ❤🎉❤
Was briefly introduced to Bill Cosby backstage in the 1980s at the Hollywood Bowl at a Playboy Jazz Festival concert. I'm a survivor and have a hyper awareness and was shocked that I immediately very much disliked Cosby when I met him. He was "America's dad" and he was my mother's favorite comedian actor and I grew up listening to his records and watching Saturday morning cartoons with his voice overs. I grew up with him but when I met him in person and shook his hand something in my being said, "yuck, bad vibe, creep, stay away, don't trust." It blew my mind because it was well before anything was known about his crimes. And I didn't really want to tell anybody for years because I mean who doesn't like Bill Cosby right?? If you have survived S abuse there is a chance you'll recognize it if you come across an individual who has that propensity. And I did. My mother passed away before the information was known about his crimes. So she was spared the disappointment.
There's something in their face, isn't it? Not in everyone's unfortunately, some look unsuspicious. But a lot of guys have their uncontrollable se*ual urge / se* addiction literally written into their face.
I'm sorry to hear you were a victim yourself. But I believe, that what you described is our famous "female intuition". You are probably VERY aware, but I do know the feeling. I had an aquitance of my ex that lived nearby. We sometimes would meet on the street and have a chat. He's deeply religious, makes music for his church etcetera. Then me and my ex split up. And his wife died. Three months later the whole "vibe" between us changed. Suddenly I felt restless and nervous when I met him, he started pushing me for contact, he wanted to drop by and when was that possible....it made me very, VERY uncomfortable. Thát feeling. There's nothing inappropiate happening yet, there's not even talk about dating, but somehow you can sense it: this man wants something from me that I DON'T want. Luckily I live in Amsterdam and not somewhere rural. And my house is burglerproof. But just the idea alone: my ex and me were together for 15 years, I'm still processing my disappointment and hurt. HE was married for 18 years. Your wife dies, too young, and three months later you're already looking for another woman?? No.
@@smoly37wow. That does sound concerning. And glad that you're tuned into your female intuition and listening to it. Yes I do think that we do have that. Some of us listen to it better than others.
@@therealdeal3672 Indeed. The most dangerous thing is, in my experience, to let your logic overrule that feeling of concern. To ignore it, cause you don't want to be paranoid. Or unfair. Nowadays, being alone at 61, I don't care anymore how it comes across and I listen to my intuition more than ever...Smooches from Amsterdamned! XXX
... and awesome talk apart from that, thank you. i just can't stay silent when love and violence get connected, these two have nothing to do with each other.
Also can be the person who's abused wanting to stay in denial blame the abuser instead of themselves for staying in the abuse and trying to find a way out of it, sometimes
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It can be addiction to love and the addictive pull from trauma/betrayal bonds. When the abuser says "I'm sorry" and shows love, the victim gets relief from his warmth and this sets in her mind as love and she gets relief again, until the cycle of repeats again.
How they treat kids and animals. Who their friends are, what your dog or cat thinks of them. What a small child thinks of them. What your mom or dad thinks. How fast he pushes you. Set boundaries early on- firm and plenty. See him when he’s angry. Don’t apologize for things that are his responsibility. Expect the best. Also, learn the signs of domestic abuse early - from educational websites. Before you’re even in that. Have an out- a support system set up. Never move in right away. Replace their name with the word “love” in 1 Corinthians 13:4-5.
Seriously. I thought you were being sarcastic. What your cat or dog thinks of them 😂? What your mom and dad thinks of them?(nothing. They're dead. Bummer.) Later I was able to "translate" what you ment: keep an eye on how sensitive creatures respond. Yes. Well. I can tell you: that is VERY bad advise. Because the real psychopaths will probably get an A+ from your parents, your friends AND your pets. They can be master actors and some of them are not only highly intelligent but also sensitive. To who is a probable victim. They already know the things you mentioned so they work around that and will take a different approach. So those are far from safe ways to check your new love interest. Just take it slow to get to know each other, meet up in public places, at first and listen to your OWN intuition. Never mind how handsome or cute he is. People still have the prehistorical notion that a beautiful person can't be bad. And an ugly person is probably bad. Nonsense, of course but deep into our system. Don't fall for it. Do your own research.
In California the state presses charges automatically. I showed up for court also in my case and he went to San Quentin. I never dated him again but tried to get an apology. He blamed me! His sister blamed me!! So I walked away and never spoke to him or his family again. Easy to do as it was early on and no kids or financial ties. I’m glad this year to celebrate 25 years of extra life ❤
I'm so sorry you had to endure that. Also glad you found the strength within yourself to press charges. I understand it's a proces and every story is unique. It's a shame we have people in our society that cause victims feel ashamed. As if going through something highly traumatic and being in fear isn't horrible enough. Hopefully you're doing better these days. The best of luck ❤
I hate to admit that I was being stalked and almost severely hurt by an ex and I did call the police but ended up hanging up. The reason I didn’t press charges was because I did not want to ruin his career prospects, I was prioritize HIS well being over mine. It was not rational thinking. A few months later he assaulted me at gun point, I was able to grab the gun and shots when everywhere and neighbors called the police. When the police closed in on him, he committed suicide. I felt so guilty and blamed myself for several years. His family blamed me and slandered my name, saying that he loved me so much but I drove him to try and kill me because I didn’t want to be with him anymore. It’s been 7 years now and I see now how wrong I was and how wrong his family was. I never thought I’d be a survivor, or fall for the DV cycle but I did and I didn’t even realize I was in an abusive relationship until it was too late.
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Enabling family not holding him accountable is the root cause and they projected their shame and guilt onto you using illogical arguments. What losers. I’m happy to read you are out from under the guilt they tried to lay on you! It’s not your fault at all.
That is horrible. Please don't be hard on yourself. You now have the benefit of hindsight. I get it though, and it is a process to work through it all. But he was a monster and his family of course was going to enable the monster as otherwise it would reflect poorly on them. You are not responsible for his monstering or his family's reaction. All the best.
As a DV survivor the law doesn’t take you seriously . The narcissist manipulates the law and you are in danger even more if he is not prosecuted and gives you a chance to get away! Also you might end up in jail. I am from Brooklyn NY.
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This is true. When he swatted me, the cops told me the report would sit at a desk for a while and many times I called the cops because he had a gun, and they sides with him because he was a an army vet and would just tell them he was over reacting or I was crazy. I'm alive today not because of police protection but bc I'm in a separate state and he was too broke to drive and end my life because that's what he kept saying he was going to do, instead he ended his and burned his house and car down before he ended his. They are so manipulative. For 4 months he manipulated everyone. Even the people on the crisis line.
Sociopaths operate by turning easily manipulated people against each other. Then they don't appear to be the bad person. Instead, we see the person who was turned against us as the bad person, but that person was another target.
I went to court, I was the 4th woman to take the monster to justice 😅...I received very little support, had to travel and stay near where it happened after 2 and a half years... I had panic attacks, felt sick, even got salmonella... I ended up testifying via video because I had been in hospital...its not that i didn't want to go, I was terrified, his evil family wanna going to be front row, his mum had threatened to kill me, but only one was on the stand... I fainted and had a terrible time...pretty much totally alone.
@BronwynneBessette-v7s thanks...but I had none, zero...didn't even have family. I felt like I was in a weird fish bowl, very strange and scary...and then I lost. I tried to appeal but I got salmonella and everything became overwhelming, lost lots of weight. Thank you, you are right...I hope this serves to warn others of obstacles.
Trauma bond and more often than not plain and simple just circumstances: Children, economic entanglements, blackmailing, flying monkeys, isolation, housing shortage etc. …
@@amerubix185 I couldn't agree more. With me and my ex is was the housingproblem in the Netherlands, as everywhere, nowadays. If he could have had a place to live sooner, all the drama we went through wouldn't have happened. I tried NOT to blame society, because it was MY kindness that was taken for weakness and taken advantage of. But still, when those processes were less bureaucratic and weren't abused to make decadent amounts of money, at least I could have kept him out of my house.
Knowing our own self worth is key. Knowing how to trust ourselves is key. Knowing that we trust that if or when we are approached by an unsavoury individual, we know to walk away
You can see a sociopath by how they exalt themselves by their children's success, or their success. Also, if they just keep talking and won't let you talk. Most importantly are they showing any empathy at all? Do they seem the least bit concerned about peoples feelings or your feelings mostly. They are constant plotting for their future agenda so you really have to be on your toes with them.
Careful- my x was an EXPERT MIMIC OF EMPATHY, with extreme control needs .. It confused me for years, bc he would go WAY above and beyond to do good things for others, and love bomb the kids and I. He had been in LE and was an excellent interviewer and interrogator!! He is very dangerous bc of all these traits. His " empathy" became his very best weapon and camouflage. Beware!!
Here in Toronto, if a DV is in progress, anyone can call the police and the abuser will be charged. The victim won't need to speak out against the abuser.
That most DV victims do not want to testify is more the norm than the exception. The reason is generally not 'love' (only in the early stages of separation the confusion and difficulties with leaving might be confused as 'love'). The primary reason is FEAR, specifically fear of retribution - because most of these abusers are hell bent on punishment and retribution, and have shown or threatened that they will kill the victim, or the kids, or her pets, or her parents as punishment. It is time to stop thinking of DV victims as helpless teenagers in love, and think of them more as a hostage who has just gotten away (or who still may be living with) a hostage taker and torturer. Many of the DV abusers are just as sadistic as a serial killer.
15:00 no no no. You have it all wrong! The "power of love" is kindness, generosity care and tenderness. What you are now talking about is the power of FEAR and CODEPENDENCY. The exact opposite... The women might say that, but the reality is their psychological status of victim, fear and terror.
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My first husband was DV and Alcoholic and I feared him and after 7 tries I had a very supportive home visiting nurse help me get the police to remove him from the home. Previously, the police made things worse. It was so much worse after the police left.
I feel as though I’ve been “stalked” a few times. HOWEVER, let me put that in context, so I don’t misuse the severity of the word. Yo me, stalking is even someone trying to imply they’re watching me. I’ve had this happen, with my mother, sister, a neighbor and, perhaps, a boss, many years ago. A judge or law enforcement may overlook this, but they SHOULD feel uncomfortable about it, as they wouldn’t want anyone else to use stalking language with them. Things like, “I know when you’re home”, “Anyone can get around your security camera”, “I don’t trust where you go at night.” These types of statements are made to cause discomfort, to make you feel you have no boundaries they haven’t to respect, that they can show up at any time, and of course, that there’s nothing you can do about them. My neighbor and former sister made it more tangible, by stealing and opening mail and packages. Fortunately again, I’m not a “return customer”. Once I had evidence, they had problems.
There was never a question of guilt. They did say they killed their parents. But after the hung jury of the first trial, they prevented the abuse evidence from being introduced at the second trial. After the mess they made of OJ Simpson's trial, letting him get away with murder, they had to indict the brothers. Anyone who thinks they deserve to be in prison for this long has no idea how trauma works. The brothers were sexually, mentally, financially, and physically abused by their father José, while their mother, Kitty, was not doing anything about it, which is abuse by neglect and enabling behaviour. Instead, she numbed with alcohol and prescription drugs, while warning the boys against speaking up about secrets that would fragment and destroy the family. There was a perfect image to uphold, no matter the cost. Much of the guilty verdict was due to lack of evidence to being in direct danger at the time of the crime, and the outrage that resulted from killing the mother. My issue with this is when children are subjected to prolonged abuse, they develop complex trauma. Sufferers of Complex Trauma live in a perpetual state of danger, which, in their mind, is always in the present. The abuser, José, followed through with his threats more often than not. It was enough to take any hint of threat seriously, and that day, José threatened Eric harm, should he tell anyone about the rape. People, who do not suffer prolonged abuse, lose their temper and presence of mind when cornered. Those with complex PTSD experience the same a million times over. José didn’t even have to pose any threat on the day of the murders for the boys to feel unsafe. As for the murder of their mother, most people couldn’t find any justification for her murder, which was the most inflammatory in everyone’s eyes. Allowing abuse is still abuse. Those, who understood that, were heartbroken by the verdict and the subsequent separation of the young brothers. The thing about Kitty is that she perfectly fit the profile of a codependent, suffering abused wife syndrome. She was José’s victim just as much; however, the boys shouldn’t be expected to understand her complicity and failure to protect or support them. It may have been a bit of a grey area had José been only mentally or emotionally abusive, but to turn a blind eye to a husband, who is raping both his sons is what I found infuriating. Certainly, murder is never something to condone, yet since this is the fact, I believe it was the parents, who pulled the symbolic trigger first on these boys.
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Once you become a pretty big celebrity, the people around you will rarely ever tell you you're wrong and will relax boundaries with you and so you begin to think that that is normal. I used to work a little with rockstars. The bigger they are the more insulated they are and the more surrounded by yes men and people who will just acquiesced to them and agree with them. That's how all their worst traits are nurtured plus they pick up bad traits from a lot of those people.
True. And the same happens with spoiled children. Children who are spoiled turn out exactly like these rock stars, especially if they're handsome or pretty, too and some of them even worse. I also worked in the entertainment industry and I met many famous people, but still none of them was so arrogant and self serving like my psychopath ex (he was a spoiled kid who happened to be handsome and he was from a small village where dumb women treated him like a rock star. A total Loser🤮!). I prefer rock stars and celebrities all the way to a scumbag narcissist no one knows about.
@@irme8930 I agree with you. Sorry you had that in your life. It is true that so many kids are being raised to be so spoiled and entitled. One of the biggest features of serial criminals is entitlement
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This was pure gold, Thank you so much to both of you, People can wear masks to draw you in, Don't be fooled by façades, Peace, love and respect to you both and and everyone, Thank you universe, All glory praise and smiles to the most high :-)
@@2minutetopics Your list is something different. You are trying to make this about race when it isn't. There are good and bad people in every single race that there is. Pointing out @busers isn't just because of their skin colour. I hope you're better than this.
The assumption via language is that the victim is WEAK... I disagree, we can all have a moment of vulnerability, like a loved one dying... I met my monster shortly after losing my mother...I just wanted to hear "I love you", I didn't read the rest...it's like self defense, great while your able and top notch, but predators know how to prey on the sore moments when you're less able. This is why self defense is so lonely. 😢
After escaping my monster I went to the women's institute and signed up to all courses about the subject...and I did my own study, I asked the battered women I met and most had lost a loved one before they met their nightmare...this is why I believe mourning is so important and natural...look at the elephants. It's a stage of vulnerability. Predators know.
@@fay5479 My nightmare began after I lost my beloved grandmother who was like a second mother to me. And the worst part about it: After her death all other family members showed their true faces, too. This is also why I had no support at all regarding an escape from the situation. A nightmare within a nightmare.
@amerubix185 Oh my, I hear ya big time !!! When the smoke screen slips away, it can get ugly...but it was always there ! Can't get back love that didn't exist...but we can hug the fact that we did feel love, love towards others, that loving is more important and should not be tarnished.
I think it's really important for law enforcement officers or deputies to inform family members of the victim, to please not violate restraining orders, to respect the victims right to privacy, etc., because many times, Psychopaths, abusers are good manipulators and they know how to get to the victim via the family members.
I have a creepy property manager. That referred himself as Daddy in the office in a text message. Now parking right outside my front door. And refused to move the creep is married.😝🥴🤬 The police are aware also his supervisor and office personnel know.
What do you mean, why wouldn't these battered women victims testify? It doesn't pay to to testify or tell the authorities if the victim is just going to be blamed, shamed, not believed, accused of ruining their abusive partner's life and the abuser gets away with the abuse to abuse again. Perhaps if these victims felt like they'd be actually protected, rather than be punished later with a vengeance for testifying, they'd maybe show up.
There's also the power of fear. Abusers become so threatening that it gets deeply into your brain, and his being arrested and tried doesn't remove the fear that he'll get charges dismissed, or will send someone on the outside to do you in.
Why would you not say what's most important wouldnt testify? woman's too scared to testify because he really will have a reason to kill her, she thinks. It puts her at risk
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Some churches that are not Christian (based on their OWN Nicene creed) let people think they are Christian when they are not! 100% women need to know what exactly salvation is and how to ask a direct, disqualifying question about it to suitors. They have to do it for themselves, since the disrespect of elders’ advice is rampant.
Also, at this point we just need to take their jobs. Too many man-child congressmen let Nancy Pelosi run their country. No thanks, losers-buh-bye Big Boys
Their guilt was never a question it's the fact that it happened back in 1981 back then abuse was not talked about especially rape or incest these boys now men were abused from the age of six all the way up to adulthood they were tortured mentally physically emotionally and sexually I'm not saying what they did was right however what their parents did was wrong too no child should ever be abused in those absolutely horrifying ways I hope they get out an advocate for children that are abused our laws need to change had the abuse been let in for the second trial it would have been a manslaughter not life in prison without the possibility of parole free the Mendes Brothers ❤🙏❤️🙏
14:56 How is it so hard for so many to understand that when you have been beaten up and traumatized, the drop dead last thing you want is to be near that evil creature who hates you so much?
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After 49 seconds in: it's IMPOSSIBLE for humans to have no rituals. You can't live your day-to-day life like that! All that stress?? I agree people should be more aware of a WHOLE lot of things. But I'm refuse to live in defend-mode anymore. Not even after 15 years with a narcissist.
It is important to understand that most women don’t leave because it is statistically more dangerous to leave than to stay. On average it takes a woman 7 attempts before she is safely out.
@@Spiralclarity It's a trauma bond. My dad tried to drown me too amongst other horrors. Forgive yourself. You were learning. Learning is always for a future time. You will be more equipped to deal with it next time. You're okay. 🙂🫂
The woman target, a red rag to a bully, usually does not want to hurt the other person's feelings, is afraid that they might dislike them. She is too weak and lacking in ability to ruthlessly deflect a sociopathic ruthless man, who himself doesn't care if he is liked or not. He will take,use and destroy whatever he wants.
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This happens to men too and it can be deadly as in the case of what my mom did to my father she almost starved him to death. She had him isolated. Wouldn’t let us see him thank God the hospital called adult protective services. I never thought my mom would go that far. Be very careful.
I don't think people kill because of love, they have a mental problem, people definitely forgive because of love but that doesn't mean you always stay or that you forget.
If I had reported my ex, he could have lost his security clearance and his income which would have left me unable to financially provide for my children. But that’s not why I didn’t report him. It was because I still had hope that I could “fix” things and go back to the way it was before his drinking got so bad. It bothers me now that I still wanted him after everything he did.
I think you put too much importance on people like this woman and she’s not God. I do not believe that children are born into this world evil or so psychopaths or anything like that I believe they’re made that way with circumstances and the way that they’re treated and if someone is nurtured and treated with love and has God in their life, I do not believe they turn out this way. It’s all relative. It takes a village, not any one person is the same. You can take children from the same dysfunctional family and some are not phased or bothered in anyway and function properly with school and athletics and everything else and may it be that dysfunction comes out other ways that aren’t noticeable right away and you can take another child from the same family and they’re very affective same thing with biology and genetics some people are more susceptible to some diseases and some not some people get diabetes and some do not some get cancer and some do not. But if you have God and live in your life. God takes care of that person and leads him and direct him all the days of his life to do good and to be good.
It annoys me when people like Lisa suggest that it’s something that women DO that attracts dangerous men. Still the woman’s fault eh Lisa? Despite all her guests and bullshit questions, she still doesn’t get it.
Naivety? Got into many situations because I was brought up as an obedient and dutiful people pleaser. If there ever was a "bad" person it was me. Never the others. Also everyone was oh so god-fearing. Even at school you were taught that god sees everything and that this alone would be reason enough for everyone to behave. So why should I have assumed bad intentions? Also no one taught me social cues/codings. If my boss would have ordered me to his hotel room for a dictation, I probably would have went. I also didn't know that "coffee" was a code for a s*x invitation. I took everything literally. So please, how was I supposed to know? That others use codes instead of talking clearly?! No one told me. And we had no TV either. This is also why I read a lot of christian books and believed in fairy tales and didn't know there were a pretty bunch of predators around. Not least bc everyone pretends there are only a few of them and that those sit in prison anyway. That's what society thinks is appropriate to teach kids. First kids are taught such a BS and then people DARE to ask WHY young girls/women didn't know and why they would do this and that. Unbelievable!!
They are guilty for murdering ,yes . They could have gone to police together and charge parents they could have left home at their age .They killed now they have to pay in jail
6.10mins. That Menendez drawing was done clearly to manipulate. He portraying himself as tiny and his Dad as a giant is lying through drawing. I don't believe him.
I believe they were abused by the father but they killed their parents for the money. The mother didn't abuse them, and had no power to stop the father, but they killed her too, and that's because they wanted the money. It's weird how everybody feels sorry for them now. I don't. Kitty's murder was not justified.
@@ExiledStardustwell ur incorrect. She also abused them. She touched Eric’s penis to check for STDs and ripped Lyles toupe off which was stuck on with medical grade glue and nearly skinned him. Do some research. She admitted to saying she hated her children and she was obsessed with her husband and too weak to protect her kids.
@@ExiledStardust Yes, she did! Enabling the father who raped them and stopping them from reporting to anyone to preserve the "family image" and failing to protect her children is abuse. Instead, she supported the abuser and numbed herself with pills and alcohol. She was under the spell of her abusive and criminal husband and it is NOT on small children to know how to protect themselves. They did NOT do it for money. Kitty's murder had strong reasons.
Unfortunately women have been victims of malevolent men. Not all men are bad, but the bad ones do a tremendous amount of damage. If this doesn’t apply to you why are you so offended?
@@Sweetpea-2023 indeed, it does not apply to me at all. I do not support misogynistic moods as well as shitting in the heads of people the idea that mostly all men are predators. Don't women do any damage as opposite?
@@nekoh5214 predators and abusers come in all shapes, sizes, genders, races, and socioeconomic backgrounds. I think this is important information for many people who are being victimized. Yes, men can absolutely be victimized by women.
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Self esteem is key. I married a sociopath. He found me when I was extremely vulnerable. He almost killed me one night. He also smashed all my front teeth out. Just devastating. But, now I can spot these people as if they signs above their heads!! If someone pushes your boundaries, they're not a good person. They're showing you that they don't value your feelings - so, either run or if you have to deal with them, eg. they're a family member or a fellow parent at your kid's school, etc. keep them on the periphery and don't let them "in." That's my 2 cents!
Im SO sorry this happened to you but so happy you lived and can spot them. What advice would you give to someone that was married to someone with disturbing poss sociopathic or psychopathic behavior that wanted to get away but was afraid for their life or their lives and the lives of their children?
You poor angel, teeth are so important and it’s so painful when they’re messed with!! 💔💔💔 I’m glad you got away and can now spot abusers. My abusers were mainly fellow women and I’ve learned now too. Keep telling your story!!
I am happy you got out, I agree, yet, narcs will tell you and make you believe you are pushing their boundaries bc you want to talk about your feelings but they are done with the conversation. So they flip the script on you... Its so crazy making....
Glad you survived, brave woman! Any woman can end up in these relationships. Breaking the cycle is what counts!
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Holy shitsticks! 😮
I just broke it off with a sociopath a month ago and (met online) when I asked him how he found me, he replied "I heard about your former abusive relationship and thought "Perfect, she's weak, she'll be a perfect victim" and now you're saying you were down and out too. This cant be coincidences, they ARE looking for weak people.
The violence is extreme. I had a severe stress reaction that lasted a year during which he stepped up the abuse. He told me he fistpunched his ex during sex as in punching her all over during..it and that he fantasized about cutting womens throats and hanging them upside down draining their blood. He planned on taking me on a trip (he was within the military) and when I didnt go along, he said it wasnt for the destination he had promised but to the war in ukraine where he would take me down a bunker and shoot me in the back of my head and then himself.
I am in therapy noe and have read all about cluster Bs the past 6 years but hearing it straight from another victim REALLY helps.
THANK YOU, sweet woman for this golden coin! ❤🎉❤
It’s not ‘love’ it’s power and control for the abuser, and a trauma bond for the victim.
Yes..
Was briefly introduced to Bill Cosby backstage in the 1980s at the Hollywood Bowl at a Playboy Jazz Festival concert. I'm a survivor and have a hyper awareness and was shocked that I immediately very much disliked Cosby when I met him. He was "America's dad" and he was my mother's favorite comedian actor and I grew up listening to his records and watching Saturday morning cartoons with his voice overs. I grew up with him but when I met him in person and shook his hand something in my being said, "yuck, bad vibe, creep, stay away, don't trust." It blew my mind because it was well before anything was known about his crimes. And I didn't really want to tell anybody for years because I mean who doesn't like Bill Cosby right?? If you have survived S abuse there is a chance you'll recognize it if you come across an individual who has that propensity. And I did. My mother passed away before the information was known about his crimes. So she was spared the disappointment.
My mom too! She adored Cosby. I was really glad she passed before the truth about him came to light.
There's something in their face, isn't it? Not in everyone's unfortunately, some look unsuspicious. But a lot of guys have their uncontrollable se*ual urge / se* addiction literally written into their face.
I'm sorry to hear you were a victim yourself.
But I believe, that what you described is our famous "female intuition". You are probably VERY aware, but I do know the feeling.
I had an aquitance of my ex that lived nearby. We sometimes would meet on the street and have a chat. He's deeply religious, makes music for his church etcetera.
Then me and my ex split up. And his wife died.
Three months later the whole "vibe" between us changed. Suddenly I felt restless and nervous when I met him, he started pushing me for contact, he wanted to drop by and when was that possible....it made me very, VERY uncomfortable. Thát feeling. There's nothing inappropiate happening yet, there's not even talk about dating, but somehow you can sense it: this man wants something from me that I DON'T want.
Luckily I live in Amsterdam and not somewhere rural. And my house is burglerproof.
But just the idea alone: my ex and me were together for 15 years, I'm still processing my disappointment and hurt. HE was married for 18 years. Your wife dies, too young, and three months later you're already looking for another woman??
No.
@@smoly37wow. That does sound concerning. And glad that you're tuned into your female intuition and listening to it. Yes I do think that we do have that. Some of us listen to it better than others.
@@therealdeal3672 Indeed. The most dangerous thing is, in my experience, to let your logic overrule that feeling of concern. To ignore it, cause you don't want to be paranoid. Or unfair.
Nowadays, being alone at 61, I don't care anymore how it comes across and I listen to my intuition more than ever...Smooches from Amsterdamned! XXX
*To stay with the abuser is NOT LOVE , Lisa und guest!!!*
It is an immense LACK of love and self-love.
no blaming, just truth 💛
... and awesome talk apart from that, thank you.
i just can't stay silent when love and violence get connected, these two have nothing to do with each other.
Also can be the person who's abused wanting to stay in denial blame the abuser instead of themselves for staying in the abuse and trying to find a way out of it, sometimes
@@Karma-zx8qe what?!
*abuse is ALWAYS the abuser's fault !!!!*
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Breaking the cycle is what counts! You deserve to be safe.
It can be addiction to love and the addictive pull from trauma/betrayal bonds. When the abuser says "I'm sorry" and shows love, the victim gets relief from his warmth and this sets in her mind as love and she gets relief again, until the cycle of repeats again.
How they treat kids and animals.
Who their friends are, what your dog or cat thinks of them.
What a small child thinks of them.
What your mom or dad thinks.
How fast he pushes you.
Set boundaries early on- firm and plenty.
See him when he’s angry.
Don’t apologize for things that are his responsibility. Expect the best.
Also, learn the signs of domestic abuse early - from educational websites. Before you’re even in that.
Have an out- a support system set up.
Never move in right away.
Replace their name with the word “love” in 1 Corinthians 13:4-5.
Seriously. I thought you were being sarcastic. What your cat or dog thinks of them 😂? What your mom and dad thinks of them?(nothing. They're dead. Bummer.)
Later I was able to "translate" what you ment: keep an eye on how sensitive creatures respond.
Yes. Well. I can tell you: that is VERY bad advise. Because the real psychopaths will probably get an A+ from your parents, your friends AND your pets. They can be master actors and some of them are not only highly intelligent but also sensitive. To who is a probable victim. They already know the things you mentioned so they work around that and will take a different approach.
So those are far from safe ways to check your new love interest.
Just take it slow to get to know each other, meet up in public places, at first and listen to your OWN intuition. Never mind how handsome or cute he is. People still have the prehistorical notion that a beautiful person can't be bad. And an ugly person is probably bad. Nonsense, of course but deep into our system.
Don't fall for it. Do your own research.
In California the state presses charges automatically. I showed up for court also in my case and he went to San Quentin. I never dated him again but tried to get an apology. He blamed me! His sister blamed me!! So I walked away and never spoke to him or his family again. Easy to do as it was early on and no kids or financial ties. I’m glad this year to celebrate 25 years of extra life ❤
Fear and shame. That is why it took me so long to press charges.
👍 Glad you did!
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I'm so sorry you had to endure that. Also glad you found the strength within yourself to press charges. I understand it's a proces and every story is unique. It's a shame we have people in our society that cause victims feel ashamed. As if going through something highly traumatic and being in fear isn't horrible enough. Hopefully you're doing better these days. The best of luck ❤
You got this❤
@tarasanders8978 Absolutely. Thank you.
@@SherriFlemming I have read it. Brilliant read.
I hate to admit that I was being stalked and almost severely hurt by an ex and I did call the police but ended up hanging up. The reason I didn’t press charges was because I did not want to ruin his career prospects, I was prioritize HIS well being over mine. It was not rational thinking.
A few months later he assaulted me at gun point, I was able to grab the gun and shots when everywhere and neighbors called the police. When the police closed in on him, he committed suicide.
I felt so guilty and blamed myself for several years. His family blamed me and slandered my name, saying that he loved me so much but I drove him to try and kill me because I didn’t want to be with him anymore.
It’s been 7 years now and I see now how wrong I was and how wrong his family was. I never thought I’d be a survivor, or fall for the DV cycle but I did and I didn’t even realize I was in an abusive relationship until it was too late.
You are brave to be a survivor! ❤️
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I’m sorry you were treated that way:-(
I'm so sorry 😢 I wish that didn't happen to you. I'm worried about this in my life too now ❤
Enabling family not holding him accountable is the root cause and they projected their shame and guilt onto you using illogical arguments. What losers. I’m happy to read you are out from under the guilt they tried to lay on you! It’s not your fault at all.
That is horrible. Please don't be hard on yourself. You now have the benefit of hindsight. I get it though, and it is a process to work through it all. But he was a monster and his family of course was going to enable the monster as otherwise it would reflect poorly on them. You are not responsible for his monstering or his family's reaction. All the best.
As a DV survivor the law doesn’t take you seriously . The narcissist manipulates the law and you are in danger even more if he is not prosecuted and gives you a chance to get away! Also you might end up in jail. I am from Brooklyn NY.
I had the sheriff’s ask me “well why do you want me to take this report?”
And then begrudgingly did
Yep!!!
@@tilly012011 The Coercive Control law needs to be passed in Canada and the U.S.
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YES!They say a woman won't testify, but a woman who testifies is villified
This is true. When he swatted me, the cops told me the report would sit at a desk for a while and many times I called the cops because he had a gun, and they sides with him because he was a an army vet and would just tell them he was over reacting or I was crazy. I'm alive today not because of police protection but bc I'm in a separate state and he was too broke to drive and end my life because that's what he kept saying he was going to do, instead he ended his and burned his house and car down before he ended his. They are so manipulative. For 4 months he manipulated everyone. Even the people on the crisis line.
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OMG…! Wow!
Sociopaths operate by turning easily manipulated people against each other. Then they don't appear to be the bad person. Instead, we see the person who was turned against us as the bad person, but that person was another target.
I went to court, I was the 4th woman to take the monster to justice 😅...I received very little support, had to travel and stay near where it happened after 2 and a half years... I had panic attacks, felt sick, even got salmonella... I ended up testifying via video because I had been in hospital...its not that i didn't want to go, I was terrified, his evil family wanna going to be front row, his mum had threatened to kill me, but only one was on the stand... I fainted and had a terrible time...pretty much totally alone.
I know….
@@AnaM.F 😞❤️😘
Well done for getting through 🎉💛
There should’ve been represesentatives from the court there to advocate for you, support you, be with you and be on your side in front of the court.
@BronwynneBessette-v7s thanks...but I had none, zero...didn't even have family. I felt like I was in a weird fish bowl, very strange and scary...and then I lost.
I tried to appeal but I got salmonella and everything became overwhelming, lost lots of weight. Thank you, you are right...I hope this serves to warn others of obstacles.
It’s not the power of love! It’s a trauma bond on the victims side & obsession of control of the abusers side. Love is kind, love us gentle, etc
Thank you! I’m so sick of people talking about love as the key. It’s a trauma bond - nothing to do with love or a lack of self-love.
Trauma bond and more often than not plain and simple just circumstances: Children, economic entanglements, blackmailing, flying monkeys, isolation, housing shortage etc. …
@@amerubix185 I couldn't agree more. With me and my ex is was the housingproblem in the Netherlands, as everywhere, nowadays. If he could have had a place to live sooner, all the drama we went through wouldn't have happened.
I tried NOT to blame society, because it was MY kindness that was taken for weakness and taken advantage of.
But still, when those processes were less bureaucratic and weren't abused to make decadent amounts of money, at least I could have kept him out of my house.
Doctor Burgess is awesome! I have learned so many things from her
Knowing our own self worth is key. Knowing how to trust ourselves is key. Knowing that we trust that if or when we are approached by an unsavoury individual, we know to walk away
You can see a sociopath by how they exalt themselves by their children's success, or their success. Also, if they just keep talking and won't let you talk. Most importantly are they showing any empathy at all? Do they seem the least bit concerned about peoples feelings or your feelings mostly. They are constant plotting for their future agenda so you really have to be on your toes with them.
NOT ALL DO. PLEASE.. LEARRN NOT ALL OF THEM ARE LIKE YOUR ABUSER..
Careful- my x was an EXPERT MIMIC OF EMPATHY, with extreme control needs .. It confused me for years, bc he would go WAY above and beyond to do good things for others, and love bomb the kids and I. He had been in LE and was an excellent interviewer and interrogator!! He is very dangerous bc of all these traits. His " empathy" became his very best weapon and camouflage. Beware!!
Here in Toronto, if a DV is in progress, anyone can call the police and the abuser will be charged. The victim won't need to speak out against the abuser.
That most DV victims do not want to testify is more the norm than the exception. The reason is generally not 'love' (only in the early stages of separation the confusion and difficulties with leaving might be confused as 'love'). The primary reason is FEAR, specifically fear of retribution - because most of these abusers are hell bent on punishment and retribution, and have shown or threatened that they will kill the victim, or the kids, or her pets, or her parents as punishment.
It is time to stop thinking of DV victims as helpless teenagers in love, and think of them more as a hostage who has just gotten away (or who still may be living with) a hostage taker and torturer. Many of the DV abusers are just as sadistic as a serial killer.
15:00 no no no. You have it all wrong! The "power of love" is kindness, generosity care and tenderness. What you are now talking about is the power of FEAR and CODEPENDENCY. The exact opposite... The women might say that, but the reality is their psychological status of victim, fear and terror.
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There are wome that don't com forward because they think chid protective services will take their children away. This is a fact.
This and other circumstances. Thus, not a fan of making too much fuss about supposed psychological reasons such as trauma bonding.
Don’t forget the family court too 😢
Loved this interview! Thanks to both of you!
Son's father add a rude awakening when he found out he could not manipulate me the way he wanted to do... And that's what led to the abuse
My first husband was DV and Alcoholic and I feared him and after 7 tries I had a very supportive home visiting nurse help me get the police to remove him from the home. Previously, the police made things worse. It was so much worse after the police left.
I feel as though I’ve been “stalked” a few times. HOWEVER, let me put that in context, so I don’t misuse the severity of the word. Yo me, stalking is even someone trying to imply they’re watching me. I’ve had this happen, with my mother, sister, a neighbor and, perhaps, a boss, many years ago. A judge or law enforcement may overlook this, but they SHOULD feel uncomfortable about it, as they wouldn’t want anyone else to use stalking language with them. Things like, “I know when you’re home”, “Anyone can get around your security camera”, “I don’t trust where you go at night.” These types of statements are made to cause discomfort, to make you feel you have no boundaries they haven’t to respect, that they can show up at any time, and of course, that there’s nothing you can do about them. My neighbor and former sister made it more tangible, by stealing and opening mail and packages. Fortunately again, I’m not a “return customer”. Once I had evidence, they had problems.
There was never a question of guilt. They did say they killed their parents. But after the hung jury of the first trial, they prevented the abuse evidence from being introduced at the second trial. After the mess they made of OJ Simpson's trial, letting him get away with murder, they had to indict the brothers. Anyone who thinks they deserve to be in prison for this long has no idea how trauma works.
The brothers were sexually, mentally, financially, and physically abused by their father José, while their mother, Kitty, was not doing anything about it, which is abuse by neglect and enabling behaviour. Instead, she numbed with alcohol and prescription drugs, while warning the boys against speaking up about secrets that would fragment and destroy the family. There was a perfect image to uphold, no matter the cost. Much of the guilty verdict was due to lack of evidence to being in direct danger at the time of the crime, and the outrage that resulted from killing the mother. My issue with this is when children are subjected to prolonged abuse, they develop complex trauma. Sufferers of Complex Trauma live in a perpetual state of danger, which, in their mind, is always in the present. The abuser, José, followed through with his threats more often than not. It was enough to take any hint of threat seriously, and that day, José threatened Eric harm, should he tell anyone about the rape. People, who do not suffer prolonged abuse, lose their temper and presence of mind when cornered. Those with complex PTSD experience the same a million times over. José didn’t even have to pose any threat on the day of the murders for the boys to feel unsafe. As for the murder of their mother, most people couldn’t find any justification for her murder, which was the most inflammatory in everyone’s eyes. Allowing abuse is still abuse. Those, who understood that, were heartbroken by the verdict and the subsequent separation of the young brothers. The thing about Kitty is that she perfectly fit the profile of a codependent, suffering abused wife syndrome. She was José’s victim just as much; however, the boys shouldn’t be expected to understand her complicity and failure to protect or support them. It may have been a bit of a grey area had José been only mentally or emotionally abusive, but to turn a blind eye to a husband, who is raping both his sons is what I found infuriating. Certainly, murder is never something to condone, yet since this is the fact, I believe it was the parents, who pulled the symbolic trigger first on these boys.
I completely agree with you, well said, @wolfsound. Sadly, USA LOVES locking people up. It's a become business!
I believe that the boys lied, they made it all up.
Agree 💯
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A Mother also has a choice...she WAS an adult, and should protect her children at all times
Otherwise I agree 🥰
Once you become a pretty big celebrity, the people around you will rarely ever tell you you're wrong and will relax boundaries with you and so you begin to think that that is normal. I used to work a little with rockstars. The bigger they are the more insulated they are and the more surrounded by yes men and people who will just acquiesced to them and agree with them. That's how all their worst traits are nurtured plus they pick up bad traits from a lot of those people.
True. And the same happens with spoiled children. Children who are spoiled turn out exactly like these rock stars, especially if they're handsome or pretty, too and some of them even worse. I also worked in the entertainment industry and I met many famous people, but still none of them was so arrogant and self serving like my psychopath ex (he was a spoiled kid who happened to be handsome and he was from a small village where dumb women treated him like a rock star. A total Loser🤮!). I prefer rock stars and celebrities all the way to a scumbag narcissist no one knows about.
@@irme8930 I agree with you. Sorry you had that in your life. It is true that so many kids are being raised to be so spoiled and entitled. One of the biggest features of serial criminals is entitlement
The entertainment industry and actors are eccentrics. They don't lead normal lives and have no anonymity with an entourage that caters to them. Very narcissistic industries.
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker
Without Conscience by Robert D Hare
@@SherriFlemming Yes, I read Gavin de Becker when the gift of fear first came out.
@@lostribe5130 👍
This was pure gold, Thank you so much to both of you, People can wear masks to draw you in, Don't be fooled by façades, Peace, love and respect to you both and and everyone, Thank you universe, All glory praise and smiles to the most high :-)
Bill Cosby
R Kelly
P Diddy
....the list goes on
THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE
Erik and Lyle Menedez, Brian Encincia and George Zimmerman.
@@2minutetopics Your list is something different. You are trying to make this about race when it isn't.
There are good and bad people in every single race that there is.
Pointing out @busers isn't just because of their skin colour. I hope you're better than this.
@@lorimiller4301nope I made it about what it is, psychopaths. Nice try though.
The assumption via language is that the victim is WEAK... I disagree, we can all have a moment of vulnerability, like a loved one dying... I met my monster shortly after losing my mother...I just wanted to hear "I love you", I didn't read the rest...it's like self defense, great while your able and top notch, but predators know how to prey on the sore moments when you're less able. This is why self defense is so lonely. 😢
After escaping my monster I went to the women's institute and signed up to all courses about the subject...and I did my own study, I asked the battered women I met and most had lost a loved one before they met their nightmare...this is why I believe mourning is so important and natural...look at the elephants. It's a stage of vulnerability. Predators know.
@@fay5479 My nightmare began after I lost my beloved grandmother who was like a second mother to me. And the worst part about it: After her death all other family members showed their true faces, too. This is also why I had no support at all regarding an escape from the situation. A nightmare within a nightmare.
@amerubix185 Oh my, I hear ya big time !!! When the smoke screen slips away, it can get ugly...but it was always there ! Can't get back love that didn't exist...but we can hug the fact that we did feel love, love towards others, that loving is more important and should not be tarnished.
@@amerubix185 I really hear ya ❤️
@@fay5479 What an amazing answer. Thank you for sharing.
I think it's really important for law enforcement officers or deputies to inform family members of the victim, to please not violate restraining orders, to respect the victims right to privacy, etc., because many times, Psychopaths, abusers are good manipulators and they know how to get to the victim via the family members.
I have a creepy property manager. That referred himself as Daddy in the office in a text message. Now parking right outside my front door. And refused to move the creep is married.😝🥴🤬
The police are aware also his supervisor and office personnel know.
Wow. That's not okay. That's absolutely not ok.
What do you mean, why wouldn't these battered women victims testify? It doesn't pay to to testify or tell the authorities if the victim is just going to be blamed, shamed, not believed, accused of ruining their abusive partner's life and the abuser gets away with the abuse to abuse again. Perhaps if these victims felt like they'd be actually protected, rather than be punished later with a vengeance for testifying, they'd maybe show up.
There's also the power of fear. Abusers become so threatening that it gets deeply into your brain, and his being arrested and tried doesn't remove the fear that he'll get charges dismissed, or will send someone on the outside to do you in.
Good interviewer...Asking goo questions and then allowing complete answers W;/O interruptions!
Prayer in the Name of Jesus got him to let go and confess. The Holy Spirit tamed the demons that incentivized him to hide.
Gosh, this lady's very tough doing the job she does! Don't think I would be comfortable even sharing the same space.
Dr Burgess is brilliant….
Why would you not say what's most important wouldnt testify? woman's too scared to testify because he really will have a reason to kill her, she thinks. It puts her at risk
Wtf do they call it ‘love’?? It’s called codependency!
Indeed.
What Love Is Not-Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Are Attachment Styles Biological? Ken Reid podcast.🌞
Know yourself and your attachment style. Ken Reid clinician Sam Vaknin PhD and David Tian PhD have educational podcasts on attachment styles and other topics.
2 Crucial Signs A Man Is Fully Committed To You And He's Serious-Jonathon Aslay podcast 🌞
Women Who Love Too Much by Robin Norwood
Facing Codependency by Pia Melody
Are you speaking from experience 🤔
This so needed I just turn 38 I need a change w men n how I deal w them
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker
Without Conscience by Robert D Hare
Men That Can't Love by Stephen A Carter avoidant attachment
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Boundaries by Henry Cloud
Non Violent Communication by Marshall B Rosenberg
.8 Dates by John and Julie Gottman defines the blueprint of healthy relationships. It clarifies.
Are You The One For Me Knowing Who Is Right And Who Is Wrong by Barbara De Angelis
Committment Phobia Explained Men That Can't Love Animated Podcast
(avoidant attachment)
Avoidant's are common in the dating pool.
Avoidants Are Too Good At Dating -Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Are You Dating An Emotionally Unavailable Or Avoidant' Attachment? by Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Ken Reads Episode 7 Confusing And Manipulative Behavior podcast 🌞
Avoidant Attachers And Covert Control-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why Didn't You See The Red Flags? Ken Reid podcast 🌞
5 Shocking Behaviors You Should Never Tolerate In A Man by Jonathon Aslay podcast 🌞
5 Boundaries You Must Set With Men by Jonathon Aslay podcast 🌞
He'll Break Your Heart If He Says These Things - Jonathon Aslay podcast 🌞
A Low Effort Man Thinks You'll Wait Forever -Jonathon Aslay podcast 🌞
What Love Is Not-Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Up To You How People Treat You Change Your Messaging Signaling - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Your Past Relationships Explained -Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Self Love To Self Healing - Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
@LisaBilyeu Does Dr. Ann Burgess see any correlation between Military service and criminal activity? Many serial killers have a history of serving.
How do we teach our boys to be opposite of what we have had in years past.
To not be rotten to others “sexually”?
By other men holding men accountable. We have to work on the adults first so THEY can teach boys how to be better than their previous generations.
Absolutely. Accountability.
And both parents need to hold boys accountable.
Protecting The Gift by Gavin De Becker
Without Conscience by Robert D Hare
Toxic Parents by Susan Forward
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker
Men That Can't Love by Stephen A Carter - avoidant attachment
Are Attachment Styles Biological? Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Are You Normal? Check This List - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Know yourself and your attachment style. Ken Reid clinician Sam Vaknin PhD and David Tian PhD have educational podcasts on attachment styles and other topics.
I blame porn and no accountability.
Some churches that are not Christian (based on their OWN Nicene creed) let people think they are Christian when they are not! 100% women need to know what exactly salvation is and how to ask a direct, disqualifying question about it to suitors. They have to do it for themselves, since the disrespect of elders’ advice is rampant.
Also, at this point we just need to take their jobs. Too many man-child congressmen let Nancy Pelosi run their country. No thanks, losers-buh-bye Big Boys
The power of control and abuse... I wouldnt call that love.
I was married to a psychopath and you can't tell if they're not killers!
Ann Burgess is the real life inspiration for the character Wendy Carr in the series "Mind Hunter".
What do psych/sociopaths do bwfore choosing their next victim? I watched it twice and didnt hear it.
Who knew that my ADHD is actually a genuine superpower - it's a psychopath invisibility cloak (good luck catching me in a daily habit!)
Exactly 😂 "can't touch this...hammer time!" Reminds me of running in a disorganized fashion to avoid gunfire. Talk about dodging a bullet!!!😂
DISCERNMENT not judgment or suspicion or hyper vigilance
Their guilt was never a question it's the fact that it happened back in 1981 back then abuse was not talked about especially rape or incest these boys now men were abused from the age of six all the way up to adulthood they were tortured mentally physically emotionally and sexually I'm not saying what they did was right however what their parents did was wrong too no child should ever be abused in those absolutely horrifying ways I hope they get out an advocate for children that are abused our laws need to change had the abuse been let in for the second trial it would have been a manslaughter not life in prison without the possibility of parole free the Mendes Brothers ❤🙏❤️🙏
14:56 How is it so hard for so many to understand that when you have been beaten up and traumatized, the drop dead last thing you want is to be near that evil creature who hates you so much?
Sending you the light. 🌞🙏
Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Covert Control- Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Avoidant Attachers And Covert Control-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Healing From Breakups-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
What You Need To Do In Order To Recover Off A Bad Breakup - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Narcissistic Abuse Checklist 100 Tips For Survival And Healing - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Spot A Narcissist Or Psychopath On Your First Date - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Trauma CTPSD PTSD Dissociation And Trauma Bonding - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Self Love To Self Healing - Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Know yourself and your attachment style. Ken Reid clinician Sam Vaknin PhD and David Tian PhD have educational podcasts on attachment styles and other topics.
Complex PTSD Surviving To Thriving by Pete Walker 🌞
The Hoffman Process by John and Julie Gottman
The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer
The Body Keeps The Score Brain Mind And The Healing Of Trauma-Bessel Van Der Kolk
Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant ❤️
Non Violent Communication by Marshall B Rosenberg
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Boundaries by Henry Cloud
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker
Without Conscience by Robert D Hare
Women Who Love Too Much by Robin Norwood
Facing Codependency by Pia Melody
Facing Love Addiction by Pia Melody
It's not always that easy. Sometimes you have very opposite and confusing feelings. Trauma bonds are real.
Complex PTSD Surviving To Thriving by Pete Walker 🌞
The Hoffman Process by John and Julie Gottman
The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer
The Body Keeps The Score Brain Mind And The Healing Of Trauma-Bessel Van Der Kolk
Non Violent Communication by Marshall B Rosenberg
Boundaries by Henry Cloud
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It! by Kamal Ravikant ❤️
Facing Codependency by Pia Melody
Facing Love Addiction by Pia Melody
Women Who Love Too Much by Robin Norwood
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker
Without Conscience by Robert D Hare
Trauma PTSD CTPSD Dissociation And Trauma Bonding - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Narcissistic Abuse Checklist 100 Tips For Survival And Healing - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Coercive Control - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Spot A Narcissist Or Psychopath On Your First Date - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
What Love Is Not! Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Marriage And Severe Avoidant Attachers - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Communicating With Avoidant Attachers - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Choose The Wrong People-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Why You Didn't See The Red Flags - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
If Avoidant's Were Honest - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Avoidant Attachers And Covert Control-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Healing From Breakups-Ken Reid podcast 🌞
What You Need To Do In Order To Recover Off The Back Of A Bad Breakup - Ken Reid podcast 🌞
Self Love To Self Healing - Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
The abuser never changes. Exactly look at bill Crosby.......I never thought anything bad would happen to me. Dam sad state of affairs ...
After 49 seconds in: it's IMPOSSIBLE for humans to have no rituals. You can't live your day-to-day life like that! All that stress??
I agree people should be more aware of a WHOLE lot of things.
But I'm refuse to live in defend-mode anymore. Not even after 15 years with a narcissist.
It is important to understand that most women don’t leave because it is statistically more dangerous to leave than to stay. On average it takes a woman 7 attempts before she is safely out.
Take love...and mix it with fear and it becomes very complex. If someone tried to kill me..I'd be terrified that he would get to me!
I'm living this. He tried to drown me in the bathtub at one point. Still I kept going back to him. I'll never understand why 😞.
@@Spiralclarity It's a trauma bond. My dad tried to drown me too amongst other horrors.
Forgive yourself. You were learning. Learning is always for a future time. You will be more equipped to deal with it next time. You're okay. 🙂🫂
@@lorimiller4301 thank you 💛💛💛
Great information. My home was being stalked by a friend at the time. It was like a single white female. It was scary 😨
And wasn't dr Huxtable a ....gynaecologist?? The irony....😂😢😮😅
The woman target, a red rag to a bully, usually does not want to hurt the other person's feelings, is afraid that they might dislike them.
She is too weak and lacking in ability to ruthlessly deflect a sociopathic ruthless man, who himself doesn't care if he is liked or not. He will take,use and destroy whatever he wants.
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker
Without Conscience by Robert D Hare
The Hoffman Process by John and Julie Gottman
The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer
The Body Keeps The Score Brain Mind And The Healing Of Trauma-Bessel Van Der Kolk
Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant ❤️
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Boundaries by Henry Cloud
Non Violent Communication by Marshall B Rosenberg
Take Back Your Life Own It! Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Self Love To Self Healing - Sam Vaknin podcast ♥️
Empowerment.
This happens to men too and it can be deadly as in the case of what my mom did to my father she almost starved him to death. She had him isolated. Wouldn’t let us see him thank God the hospital called adult protective services. I never thought my mom would go that far. Be very careful.
I don't think people kill because of love, they have a mental problem, people definitely forgive because of love but that doesn't mean you always stay or that you forget.
If I had reported my ex, he could have lost his security clearance and his income which would have left me unable to financially provide for my children.
But that’s not why I didn’t report him. It was because I still had hope that I could “fix” things and go back to the way it was before his drinking got so bad.
It bothers me now that I still wanted him after everything he did.
Denial shock😢
Not only that, I've know woman who have been in violent abusive relationships on a serial basis.
Can social media be hacked and someone put questionable remarks on there? Just a thought.
Yes
Yes it happened to me. 2 factor authentication will stop this. Horrific
Absolutely no sense here.
Women consulting FBI Agents for their dating and relationship advice
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I think you put too much importance on people like this woman and she’s not God. I do not believe that children are born into this world evil or so psychopaths or anything like that I believe they’re made that way with circumstances and the way that they’re treated and if someone is nurtured and treated with love and has God in their life, I do not believe they turn out this way. It’s all relative. It takes a village, not any one person is the same. You can take children from the same dysfunctional family and some are not phased or bothered in anyway and function properly with school and athletics and everything else and may it be that dysfunction comes out other ways that aren’t noticeable right away and you can take another child from the same family and they’re very affective same thing with biology and genetics some people are more susceptible to some diseases and some not some people get diabetes and some do not some get cancer and some do not. But if you have God and live in your life. God takes care of that person and leads him and direct him all the days of his life to do good and to be good.
Why have you started engaging in serial killers and so on
Are your popularity going down
ok none of this makes sense. I am out.
It annoys me when people like Lisa suggest that it’s something that women DO that attracts dangerous men. Still the woman’s fault eh Lisa? Despite all her guests and bullshit questions, she still doesn’t get it.
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missleading title!!!
It's seriously just obnoxious as fuk clickbait trending or you could look at it like the ongoing disassociative it's like a plague of sorts
Women who manipulate women smh
More like, why did you pull a gun or knife on someone u supposedly love?
What Love Is Not-Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
Coercive Control - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
But Kim kardashian will free them and tell the world the truth 😂😂
What reason would a woman have to go to Bill Cosby's or hotel room,Just them alone?
Naivety? Got into many situations because I was brought up as an obedient and dutiful people pleaser. If there ever was a "bad" person it was me. Never the others. Also everyone was oh so god-fearing. Even at school you were taught that god sees everything and that this alone would be reason enough for everyone to behave. So why should I have assumed bad intentions? Also no one taught me social cues/codings. If my boss would have ordered me to his hotel room for a dictation, I probably would have went. I also didn't know that "coffee" was a code for a s*x invitation. I took everything literally. So please, how was I supposed to know? That others use codes instead of talking clearly?! No one told me. And we had no TV either. This is also why I read a lot of christian books and believed in fairy tales and didn't know there were a pretty bunch of predators around. Not least bc everyone pretends there are only a few of them and that those sit in prison anyway. That's what society thinks is appropriate to teach kids. First kids are taught such a BS and then people DARE to ask WHY young girls/women didn't know and why they would do this and that. Unbelievable!!
Yes, naive.
@@amerubix185 This
@@JMarie0921 💛
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Love is the Law.
Are these re-runs? I'm having mega dejavu.
They are guilty for murdering ,yes .
They could have gone to police together and charge parents they could have left home at their age .They killed now they have to pay in jail
6.10mins. That Menendez drawing was done clearly to manipulate.
He portraying himself as tiny and his Dad as a giant is lying through drawing.
I don't believe him.
I believe they were abused by the father but they killed their parents for the money. The mother didn't abuse them, and had no power to stop the father, but they killed her too, and that's because they wanted the money. It's weird how everybody feels sorry for them now. I don't. Kitty's murder was not justified.
@@ExiledStardustwell ur incorrect. She also abused them. She touched Eric’s penis to check for STDs and ripped Lyles toupe off which was stuck on with medical grade glue and nearly skinned him. Do some research. She admitted to saying she hated her children and she was obsessed with her husband and too weak to protect her kids.
Maybe they did it because she did nothing, as their mother, to protect them.
@@ExiledStardust Yes, she did! Enabling the father who raped them and stopping them from reporting to anyone to preserve the "family image" and failing to protect her children is abuse. Instead, she supported the abuser and numbed herself with pills and alcohol. She was under the spell of her abusive and criminal husband and it is NOT on small children to know how to protect themselves. They did NOT do it for money. Kitty's murder had strong reasons.
@@ExiledStardustshe turned a blind eye to their abuse. A parent is meant to protect their children.
U look silly and cute.
Extreme feministic /low key men-hating content (what this channel actually happens to be) is a such a dump.
Then why are you watching? When I read your comment I thought OMG look at this pick me bitch!!! How absolutely pathetic!!!
Unfortunately women have been victims of malevolent men. Not all men are bad, but the bad ones do a tremendous amount of damage. If this doesn’t apply to you why are you so offended?
@@Sweetpea-2023 indeed, it does not apply to me at all. I do not support misogynistic moods as well as shitting in the heads of people the idea that mostly all men are predators. Don't women do any damage as opposite?
@@nekoh5214 predators and abusers come in all shapes, sizes, genders, races, and socioeconomic backgrounds. I think this is important information for many people who are being victimized. Yes, men can absolutely be victimized by women.
Your head is up your ass
She is such a wise woman. 👍😁✌️🩷😎💚💯
Dropi sas
Yu all under the beast system you can't serve 2 masters
Lisa, you nod your head too much.
"Why Does He Do That?" 'Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men.' By Lundy Bancroft. An abuse expert. I found it free on Spotify. It saves lives.