The Beach Boys and Charles Manson - Opie Radio
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Mike Love talks about the relationship between Charles Manson and the Beach Boys.
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Get the feeling Mr love is embellishing in some areas of his story 😁🤣
Oh 100% lmao
Definitely he’s playing dumb or dumbing things down for sure .
Guarantee Mike went to the house because of the plethora of young females. No coincidence that he had to "take a shower because it was a hot day". Oh, a random girl suddenly magically appeared in the shower? Got it.
Mike Love forgot to mention that The Beach Boys recorded one of Manson’s songs and never paid or gave him credit.
“Never Learn Not to Love” originally titled “Ceased to Exist”.
He was paid. Do some research.
@@citypopFM Manson stole and used Dennis for hundreds of thousands of damage and free rent and credit cards. He wanted to recoup his losses.
He gave the rights to Dennis in exchange for a motorcycle apparently. He only asked that Dennis not change the lyrics, which he did.
怪我ドル Z O M B O I D Are you seriously concerned for the property rights of some mass murderer? Wtf is wrong with you
怪我ドル Z O M B O I D he didn’t want credit. He said he only wanted money . Denis gave him 100,000 worth of stuff which at those times was worth about 750,000 in this day n age
Dennis Wilson was seduced by Mansons women. And Brian once saw Manson and luckily they never met directly. I think Manson would have manipulated and scared Wilson who’s a very sensitive guy. He could have threatened him or blackmailed him even.
Later Dennis Wilson just gave up and disappeared because he couldn’t control or stop Manson. He was lucky to survive Manson, too!
According to engineer Steve desper, Charlie recorded close to 100 hours of tape at Brian’s home studio some time in 1968. It resulted in 6-8 polished songs, some of which allegedly include Brian, Carl and Dennis harmonizing behind Manson’s leads vocals. Could you imagine if this is true, what these songs might sound like?
@@joshskiii4165
Yeah, a nightmare!
Dennis met Charlie for sure. He was definitely attracted to the women Charlie had in tow tho
in my opinion i don’t think he survived manson. wilson was far more involved with the group and knew a lot more than people let on. they don’t talk about it at all but charlie ruined wilson, which probably turned him to addiction resulting in his drowning.
He was very lucky
So if Dennis would have reported the "murder" her saw maybe the other murders would not of happened...? WTF.........
Or maybe he would've been killed. You think you would've been fearless in the situation?
@@fulubaulubafay3877 exactly! Also, Dennis' children had been threatened. So I can understand why he kept quiet. Manson knew where he and his family had moved to and indeed had turned up there.
@@fulubaulubafay3877 100%. First of all, there is 0 proof other than Mike Love's book publicity that this "murder" ever happened. Secondly, even if it had, it took place before the Tate-LaBianca murders; it's easy for everyone on the internet in the 2020s to look back and say they would have handled the situation differently. Dennis was scared for his family, and Manson had already threatened the life of his young son. Read the full story.
I don’t believe Charlie killed anyone in front of Dennis
That doesn't make it untrue
We'll , Dennis was obviously rattled enough to abandoned his Ferrari as well as a lot of his belongings in that house.
Nobody cares what your dumbass thinks
And I don’t believe Mike Love!
Of course you dont.woke dummy
Love is also mistaken when he says Doris Day offered Terry Melcher her place in the Hollywood Hills. Melcher moved from Cielo to her place in Malibu.
Correct.
I'm imagining Brian and Dennis huddled around the phone with Charlie trying to stifle laughter while he prank calls Mike Love and tells him to prepare to die.
It was no prank--its a miracle the Beach Boys survived, especially Dennis.
Jim Norton says "hindsight is 20/20, in regards to the conversation about Charles Manson. Dennis Wilson's cover of Manson's "Cease to Exist" was featured on the Beach Boy's 20/20 album. I'm 100% sure Jim Norton has no idea of that. Creepy.
I actually got a chill reading this. It is very creepy.
Rhett Thompson I too am confident Jim didn't know that. I knew it, and I didn't think of it. Neat happening!
That's awesome!
Mike Love + Opie! This is the worst combination of all time!
Mike Love had Brian Wilson. Opie had Anthony.
Don't burn bridges with the most talented person in the room.
Stole Charles music that's what happened terry and Dennis yep that is why Terry went running
#Purebullshit
I'm more afraid of Mike Love than Charles Manson.
And you should be!
You're smart.
serious?
Mike Love is a fuggin' liar. He's just trying to be relevant again.
Areyou serious??
beach toys stole Charlie's music
Dennis did it.
Awesome to see an interview with Mike, or any Beach Boy really where they go beyond the super basic BB lore. Gonna get the book!
It's mainly because most journalists only ask the same questions.
mike love dont know the truth
He was there. You weren't. Or maybe you were in Sharon Tate's home that night.....
Something very fishy about a beach boy 👦 🤔
Manson was evicted from Wilson's house in 68. The weapons Mike Love describes weren't at Spahn's ranch until 69 when the family met weapons expert Danny DeCarlo. That part of his story doesn't add up.
Who goes to dinner at someone's house and takes a shower because it was a hot day? That story doesn't make sense. ...fishy!!!!
it was Dennis' house, he was his cousin so they were close enough, don't you think?
Lynette Fromme has stated that the shower story is complete BS. Same with the body down the well at Spahn story
@@tracykahn945 So you believe a criminal over Mike Love?
@@magictransistorradio4933 yes i do. Mike Love made these stories up to help sell his book.
There was no murder witnessed by dennis.
And mike love didnt even recognize pics of the girls when shown them.
He's a has been clinging to what little bit of fame he still has
@@tracykahn945 How can you be so sure? If Mike only saw the women once at Dennis home, isn't it reasonable that he wouldn't recognize a photo of them years later?
Didn't Dennis also pop Charlie in the nose one day, when Charlie mentioned Dennis's family?
Charlie threatened his son so he beat his ass.
The Beach Boys were ripped off by their own Father . It must have an influcence.
Not many people are less likable or more full of crap than Charles Manson : cue Mike Love.
Lol
Dennis beat the shit out of Manson. RIP Dennis
i'm picking up bad vibrations
So if Dennis Wilson had turned Manson in, if he did see him kill someone, the murder rampage would have been avoided.
Pretty much if Dennis never gave Charlie and those girls a time of day I doubt the Manson family would get as big as it did . I think Wilson’s house served as a foundation for Manson cult I personally think if he never met Dennis his cult would have most definitely wouldn’t have lasted that long.
@@josephg6260 Might be true, but that doesn't mean Dennis is to blame. But the fucked up thing is, everyone close to Dennis knows that this event fucked his psyche and he was never the same. As much as I know he is not to blame, he blamed himself and was never able to let it go.
Dennis was in his mid 20s and doing drugs. Obviously, wasn't mature enough to deal with the situation properly.
Also, what was Dennis supposed to do exactly? Go to the cops and say “I have a weirdo living in my place and he’s very powerful, he’s able to mind control a bunch of hippies, and I think one day he might orchestrate a murder, arrest him!!” I’ve met a lot of weird people in my life, and I’ve never once turned someone in just because I thought there was a chance they would do something messed up. Dennis is absolutely not to blame. The only reason people think that is because he’s famous and it became a big story.
@jmiklane No, but he still witnessed Manson murder a guy according to Mike. That is all he would have needed to tell the cops. But maybe he was scared. If the cops didn't believe Dennis, Charlie might know Dennis was a snitch and come after him.
For the last time Dennis did not rip off Charlie . He paid 100k for the families medical bills when they lived with him .
proofs? I want to know where to search and who said that... thank you
@@carlomure I remember reading in Bugliosi's book that Dennis had paid to fix Susan Atkins teeth. Maybe that's where it started..
@@caveman3021 Bugliosi is a sensationalist that cut the investigation short as to not compromise the CIA
@@loganbradford2343 Hello : ) I believe these murders were over drugs, as the LAPD suspected in the first place.They were derailed by Bull-iosis race war helter skelter defense. More than once Manson said" If you knew what I knew you wouldnt like it...its not pretty" They were hiding something for sure!
@@carlomure Steven Gains wrote about it in his 1986 book on the BB. 100k
holy shit
Mike Love IS the Beach Boys. Without Mike Love the Beach Boys are the Coastline Boys.
Seek help
He's funny! Why didn't he mention stealing and recording Mansons music?
Manson just wanted cash, not credit.
This is the first I've ever heard about Charlie shooting a "Black cat" at Spahn Ranch.
That's because Mike Love only concocted this lie recently.
Charlie shot lotsapoppa at the ranch ...yep that's the dudes name haha
don't think they're talking about him here though
The guys name was Bernard Crowe and Manson shot him and thought he killed him but Crowe survived. I was some kind of drug deal done bad.
@@Jeffsafe are you sure? In twenty years, Ive never heard of this Black cat / Crowe named Bernard. Care to extrapolate?
Bluzian74 just go to Google and search Bernard Crowe Manson.
According to songwriter Van Dyke Parks. Charles Manson brought a bullet and showed it to Dennis Wilson who asked, "'What´s this?' Charles Manson replied, "It´s a bullet. Every time you look at it, I want you to think how nice it is your kids are still safe."
Dennis Wilson then grabbed Charles Manson by the head, threw him to the ground and began to beat the living shit out of him until Charles Manson was weeping openly in front of a lot of people and begged them to make him stop. all while a furious Dennis Wilson shouted "How dare you!?!"
Mike, how can you be about "love and harmony" and "this is that", but whine and complain about your lyrics and song accreditation. I don't think you ever found inner peace.
Yeah, Mike. Ok.
Beautiful house? its horrendous!
When Bobby Beausoli was arrested for the murder of Gary Hinman, the address he gave was Dennis Wilson's address.
Isn't Beach boys stole Charles songs and didn't give him any credit and that's why Charles was angry?
Dennis recorded a song Charlie thought was his--he never gave Charlie credit.
Opie is the Mike Love of O&A
Charles Manson loved Valerie Solanas at someone's mansion?
You're cousin Dennis, stole some of Charlie's music, got him high, and Terry M. Got him to sign the rights away ...he seeked revenge..ready Tom O'Neils book ..
Just by seeing Mike talking about Charlie, I’m petrified myself
that's no shit. This isn't Mike Love's ego talking, this is for-real bad mojo
Ironically, Mike Love celebrated his recently 80th birthday on the Ides of March 15th as the Band's backstabber.
This made me laugh
He’s making some of this up.
How do you know
@@hometv7468 Identity theft is not a joke, Mike love!
Have you ever come across a person you just naturally are scared of, they just feel threatening? That was Charlie. Everyone thinks they just would have told him screw off. Not so easy if he's in your house or even at bar you're in. He could stick you with a short blade while you're just standing there for no reason other than him not liking your face or what you say that reminds of the world he hates.
For the real information read Tom O'Neils' book: Chaos.
The Manson File: Myth & reality of an outlaw shaman Is a far better book
@@imCOLDholdME I look forward to reading that one too.
@@imCOLDholdME that book is much older, way less info
@@mathewmarsico1841 they are releasing a new deluxe edition with updated Info
@@imCOLDholdME Oh sweet I’ll def read that too
You took his song and changed his lyric and screwed out of lyric credit!
Terry melcher woke Candace in the middle of the night and said we got to move!He was spooked!I doubt it was his mom’s tuition that had him shook!
He showered at a dinner party ? Right. He's there but just keeps running away.And they found the body .
What are you talking about? The murders were like a year later! He took a shower at his cousin's house. Why is that hard to believe?
Jills are you retarded
He's obviously trying to cover up their involvement with Manson. Trying to rewrite history lol
So he wttness a murder
N didn’t say nothing
Body never found nor brought up n his sham trial
Wow
Mike went with the Helter Skelter narrative. How original.
What’s the other narrative??
@@hunden8404 You should read Tom O Neils Chaos. It’s a lot really
He was there, you weren't.
For some weird reason I really don't believe a word he said.
Fuck me! That's fucked up! I don't think Dennis was ever the same after the charles Manson incident! I think he thought he could still get him even tho he was in prison.
Brian was paranoid for years after meeting Charlie--they all were!
even he says so not invented by =vincent bugulosi
Mike Liar, oh sorry Mike Love...give me a break 🙄
How do people seem to know with such certainty Love is making stuff up? Just curious.... Maybe he saw that stuff.
Because how the hell would charlie kill someone and stuff them down a well? Police raided spahn ranch and never reported a body in a well. I dont even think spahn ranch had a well to begin with. Ive been there.
And Mike only met Manson once. Briefly.
And the Beach Boys stole Manson's song. Giving no credit whatsover. Which shows how shady the beach boys were.
@@BustyBeaver Wasn't that Dennis claim though? Mike was just telling us what Dennis told him.
If that is true, Dennis would be culpable for covering it up??
@@BustyBeaver Manson and his family stole lots of stuff from Dennis home, plus millions of dollars of medical bills that Dennis paid for. Thus, Dennis didn't give Manson songwriting credit for pay back.
@@19brian55 Yes, Dennis would be culpable for covering it up. But was he ever asked by the police? My guess is the police never looked in the well. By the time the Tate murder happened, Dennis was out of the picture. My guess is that when Dennis witnessed the murder, he was to scared to report it. That might have been why Dennis moved out of his own home. To get away from the Manson family.
They did not pay Charles for the song he gave to them.
Nor should they have. Manson supposedly turned over the rights to his song to pay the exorbitant bills that the Family rang up while living at Dennis' Sunset Blvd house. Well over $100k and a lot of that were dr bills for treatment of STDs. I think Clem had totaled one of Dennis' cars too. But, who knows what's true in this case....
Was Charles Manson the inspiration to the song Hotel California, by the Eagles?
I've never heard that one, but WOW, what a great question! Though, I've heard that the Camarillo State Hospital (closed in 1997, what is now Channel Islands University) was an influence for the song. Only rumors too.
I read or saw something about a satanic "church" being the inspiration for that particular song, with the "church" being portrayed/displayed on the album sleeve.
Where were/are the photos taken?
This is nuts
Hes Lying.
Mike Love is a liar.
Kevin Love's uncle
Wow
@3:25 ...................(then @3:35): ......."Nobody said 'Pass the yams.!!!" 😂😂😂👌🏽👍🏽🤘🏽👏🏽😂😂😂
Lmaoo "you cant leave the group"..yea rite buddy... Gtfoh lol...good for mark ...he hauled asss..what a weirdo
Gotta love Mike’s “it was a HOT day, so I just decided to jump in the shower (not at my house), SUDDENLY a girl walks in” twist to the story. Sure Mike… no details missing at all.
It is crazy that the same People that crated kokomo had affiliated with the manson famely
Chaz Manson shall henceforth be referred to as "the stoner midget hippy"
Actually Mike is crazier then Charlie
Dennis picked up the girls hitchiking, took em to his place and they had group sex for days. The girls were very impressed with Dennis, he had a great house, a Ferrari, gold records. So he has a travelling gig, he comes home and there's Charlie, Tex, the whole Family in his house and they made it clear who the boss was--Charlie He wanted to be a rock star and wanted Dennis, Brian, Melcher, to hook him up in the business, but he was so far out there he weirded everyone out with his spookiness. He was willing to kill em all if he didn't get his way. This was enough to make Brian paranoid for years. He was scared of Charley and with good reason.
Mike Love is the most solid member of The Beach Boys no matter what bs people say about him
Don’t. Not do something to regret. Surfs moving and suns setting
I visited the house in Cielo drive last year ! It’s crazy the feeling there
HE like i am charles manson after ceae to exist !
Maybe this is why Dennis went crazy
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Charlie Manson was obviously a very dangerous individual but it is also true that he never
knew his father and his mother was a floozy who would shack up with any old Tom, Dick
or Harry !!! In no way does that make him an angel of course but his start in life was no
one's idea of a stable upbringing ...............................................................................................
Dennis Wilson knows Charles Manson
Mike Love is totally full of it!!!!
mike love and charles manson were like a match made in hell
Yams are delicious
Terry Melcher's girlfriend at the time, who lived with him at Cielo Drive and is seldom mentioned, was Candice Bergen. She is the daughter of famous ventriloquist, Edgar Bergen, known for his work with his dummy, Charlie McCarthy. Twenty years later, Candice was the star of the '80s TV show, 'Murphy Brown'.
Be the man. Make it happen we love you and brian
What a load of bull. Anyone with any sense can tell he's lying
That's exactly what I thought. I don't understand why grown men feel the need to lie like that at such an old age.🤢🤢🤮
@@edwardsimango2170 right, and Dennis isn’t here to defend himself and tell the truth.
Wow is mike still alive???
Not quite 76
He died meditating on a surf board during a tsunami in 1974 and was replaced by an imposter named Shilly Weers.
Ah yes the Helter Skelter narrative.
This was very interesting
I got here after watching the tv show Aquarius. there is alot it the show touching on things happing around this time. I was looking into things see what is true and looked up Beach Boys stealing Charlie Manson song.
How hard could it be to check a well for a skeleton?
Nobody checked.
Why wasnt dennis charged - he was rhere if manson killed someone ?
Because it was never reported. Thus, never investigated.
Please…the beach boys have blood on their hands as well
There plants in the music business for the squares
Complete lies, disinformation and spin of the truth: Manson knew the Beach Boys well and even recorded in Brian's studio. Love is doing a PR spin lol
Isn't it possible that Mike wasn't at Brian's house when Manson was there? Also, at times people can misremember things. Brian Wilson claims he never met John Lennon, but other people saw them corresponding at a party in the 70s. Brian introduced himself to John. When Brian left, John said they have met many times. Lol! Of course, Brian's memory has been damaged by drugs.
great interview
'Helter Skelter' was an invention of Bugliosi's.
Mike. The clocks ticking man. Get the guys all together one last time. God wants the family back together. God gave you that last name. LOVE ❤️. Live up to it ,,just do it buddy
You stole from them and didn’t pay what you owed
Think about what you're saying. If the Beach Boys stole a song from Manson, it would be on Dennis, not Mike! According to Mike, he thought Dennis wrote the song by himself. Why? Maybe because that's what Dennis told him.
This is an amazing story, but Mike Love’s way of speaking just sucks the life out it. Not trying to be a jerk…but he is just speaking so monotone.
that's what liars sound like
There's songs suck !! Charlie's song was the best record they ever sang !!
I bet you have only heard the surf and car songs. Take a listen to songs like Long Promised Road, Til I Die, Let the Wind Blow, Wind Chimes, etc.
well, we all know Mike's ways, but it's true that Manson shot a black guy although he didn't die. I doubt Dennis was present, but he sure heard the story first hand from whoever was involved. It's also credible telling a close cousin about something so scary you hear. Dates also fix perfectly.
Those Beach Boys guys might have actually made something of themselves if they had taken on Charlie as a band member.
That’s a joke, right?
@@joewhitehead3 nope. Mason could actually sing and his songs which he wrote were literal magic. Give them a listen or wont your "god" let you.
No. I think they should've given Dennis and Brian (70's, obviously) more control in the recording process.
The mistake is having both of them perform live since the touring life back then was the most destructive thing you could do to a group with well documented mental and addiction issues.
Okay
I LIKE MIKE