To all the idiots saying he's lying...i've heard him tell this story a few times. It's always the same. Why would he have to make up a story about Charles Manson. I think the guy is successful enough not to have to do that.
Manson has a ton of Hollywood connections. Reading a book on it now. The guy who wrote it was just interviewed on Rogan. Book is excellent. It’s titled Chaos Charles Manson , the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties
Brad Gaines before the Simi Valley freeway (118) opened in the early 70’s the only road between the San Fernando Valley and the Simi Valley was the Santa Susana Pass Rd. Simi was already a crowded bedroom community. Thousands of commuters crawled bumper to bumper past Spahn Ranch every day. . It was really a small collection of ramshackle old west buildings used as a movie/tv set. If it ever had best days they were long behind it. I commuted past it every day from 65-68 to my 4 to 12 shift in a Hospital. I frequently dropped off cowboy and hippy hitchhikers there and would occasionally rent horses there. Cranston certainly knows the place. BTW it was much smaller than the place used for “Once Upon a Time In Hollywood.” Great movie!
I don't know why so many people saying he's lying, plenty of folks in their 65-75 years old that grew up in that area of Los Angeles knew the crazy group of Manson.
@@cosmicHalArizona Same here !! I was in L.A. Working after the murders. I met a bunch of people who knew someone from the Family or the Ranch.. the counter culture was actually pretty small back then .I have no doubt he & his cousin saw a whacked out Manson in the wild..
If you'll pardon my rhetorical language, everybody's got to live somewhere -- and most of us don't stay living in a single place our entire lives. Anyways.. I grew up in the Cincinnati, OH area and live here now once again. I've had a few different people tell me over the years that Charlie Manson once lived on our local Madison Avenue, a road that connects four or five local suburbs. At least one of them added that "he used to walk up and down Madison all the time". I've never bothered to look it up, though i've no reason to doubt anyone who had told me this.
Probably because Manson didn't actually have anything to do with the murders. The fact that Roman Polanski was pedophile, Tex was the one actually supplying LSD and not Charlie, and the fact that the government wanted him to look like "Jesus" just so they could make his story more sensational should be factors that people think about but they don't because they'd rather believe Charles was some psycho maniac. And why do you think that is? Because even if the Helter Skelter shit was true, he never planned on being on the "White" side, he wanted black people to take back their land. That's why he used the Swastika for exactly what it truly meant, it's original meaning from Hinduism. It's the reason in his interviews he was exposing different hand gestures and movements of certain secret societies. It's the reason they tried to make it seem like he was nothing more than some clout chasing musician. They didn't want people to realize what Charles actually did. Even when people think it's crazy that musicians could have been speaking to him through coded messages in songs is because people don't know that in MKUltra, they actually programmed people with certain music and sounds. They programmed certain musicians so that they would be almost distant handlers of certain slaves, this is the main reason they put out Manchurian Candidate in the 60s, ironically trying to show the Commies doing brain washing all while they were literally over 10 years into their own mind control experiments. Those two women were very likely victims of Roman Polanski and through guided meditation (which even Danny Trejo confirmed was a thing Charles would do) they realized what they wanted to do. And if you think that's playing with the power of suggestions, then what exactly would you think subliminal messaging is?
@@s92dx Don't do drugs? I'm not quite sure if you feel that what I said indicates I'm on drugs or the part about Tex supplying the LSD. If it's the former, I hadn't even smoked weed yet when writing that and not only that, but a lot of this comes from actually researching the case. Even Charles said it in a interview that he didn't want to grow out his hair or his beard, he didn't want to look like Jesus yet they wouldn't let him get it cut, because it made him out to be sensational, something that made people want him yet also despise him immensely. And yes the government did indeed perform mind control experiments that spanned about 20 or so years. And yes, while they were performing those experiments they put out Manchurian Candidate '62, these are facts you can easily look up right now. As well, to give a real good example of coded messaging and if you merely see it as coincidence then that is your right to do so. Back in the 60s-70s were the releases of the Planet Of The Apes movies. In 1972 was the creation of the MOVE organization, an afro-activist group that they called a "Back to Nature" group. In 1978 there was a standoff between them and the Philadelphia Police Department and in 1984, there was a bombing of 64 houses that all housed MOVE members. For fuck sakes, they used to actively carefully and meticulously splice in subliminals to drink Coke, do you really think that was the end and only use of subliminal advertising? And yes, you can also look up the fact that Tex (the other Charles) did indeed introduce LSD to the ranch, around the exact same time the government was working on using LSD as mind control. Do you really just see that as a coincedence? Do you think Cointelpro was merely for Afro people? Did you think the government merely hated hippies for smoking weed and having sex? Or do you think they hate whenever people come together to actually complain about the government?
@@davyjonesvideos he is talking absolute shit because Charlie never took drugs to the level where he was that incapacitated due to the fact that he needed to keep control, not just of himself but the girls as well. Bullshitter
@@bendream544 I dont know where you're getting your info from, but pretty much everyone who was staying at spahns ranch at the time, and Charlie himself have said that he and the entire Manson family were doing increasingly high doses of Acid. And the idea that he had to stay sober in order to control them is also wrong. All of those girls had fully bought in to Charlie's manipulations and ideology. There was no need for him to keep an eye on them 24/7 because he already knew they were devoted to him. That's how cults work. He would even leave the girls at the ranch for weeks or months on end by themselves. How was he keeping control of them then?
@@cody3599 I didn't say he never took acid or speed at one time. I read loads of books about Manson and the 'family' because I was always fascinated by why people followed this little clown, and my conclusion was that yes of course he'd dabbled enough to work out the benefits of their controlling powers but remember he was learning at the same time as the rest of the world, and that is why he went from wannabe pimp to cult leader in such a small space of time and I don't think there was any forward planning on his part, you only have to watch any of his prison interviews to get how foolish the twat is. When he starts that dancing around trying to impress whoever believing that he has some kind of powers over whatever and I'm the same way of thinking about people who still think there is any reality to Charlie's magical ways. I did all my 'research' in the 70's and 80's and that is where it should have been left as there is absolutely nothing worth getting into past that time except for its about time any of the girls left alive should be let out of jail as there is no reason to keep them there other than that bullshit human need for revenge which they wouldn't like visited upon themselves if their own committed offences of the same magnitude. But to say that Charlie was necking increasing doses and keeping control of these people believe me is almost impossible. He made sure he was dishing out the drugs personally which is red flag behaviour for a start and the rest of it by anybody else afterwards is just speculation. Bugliosi is a far better specimen for investigation even though he's died and got away with his crimes. ....
I'm a few years older than Bryan. I grew up in the valley and my friends and I used to hitchhike to Chatsworth Park, which is very close to Spahn Ranch. We liked to climb up the rocks and smoke pot. It was a beautiful area. We also would hitchhike down Topanga Canyon Blvd to go to the beach. I remember one time we got picked up by a carload of "hippies". When Manson and his followers got arrested for the murders, and I found out that they hung out st Spahn Ranch, I kind of freaked out. I sometimes wonder if those hippies that picked me and my friend up were part of his group. Either way, I'm so thankful nothing bad ever happened to me. I was kind of a dumb teenager.
Back in 2005, I had a customer in my finance office who was an elderly, frail woman. We got to talking and it turns out that she was a retired psychologist who used to work for the California State Department of Corrections at the Corcoran Prison. She was Manson's shrink for over 20 years! She told me that Charlie was a tiny guy, maybe 5'2" and 135 lbs. wet. She said he had piercing, soulless eyes, was bat shit crazy (her exact words) and she could understand how young people, especially girls, could be manipulated by him because he was so good at it.
Manson was actually 5ft 6 and 3/4 exactly. On his drivers license and multiple arrest booking records he was measured as 5ft 6 or 7. The only reason people thought he was so short was his famous mugshot photo where he was standing in the wrong spot (supposed to be standing in the yellow box on the ground) and the camera being at the wrong angle/level, making it look like the top of his head lining up with 5ft 2.
He used to live two blocks from where my maternal family grew up in Ashland Kentucky, my grandma said it caused quite a stir when he would sit on the porch naked and play guitar.
my brother and i wandered into a police sting out by Spahn Ranch the day before the cops busted the ranch to arrest the gang of kids. They threw us in jail for a day before releasing us the next day. We were long hairs in a VW, the family was stealing those. . Fun fact: Bryan went to my grammar school , SunnyBrae Elementary school, a few years behind me.
I used to hang around with some er... 'unpleasant,' types. Smoke pot at the dealer's house and so forth. One night a guy come round and offered to swap a ring for some pot. The dealer said no and I looked at it and bought it cheap. When the guy left the dealer said he never takes things as he does not know where they come from and what it might implicate him in. I remember feeling a little freaked by that statement but the lad that sold it seemed like a friendly normal guy in his early 20s. I gave the ring to my girlfriend as a gift. Then it came back to me the kid had been arrested for breaking into an old ladies home, murdering her and stealing her jewellery. He'd come straight from murdering her to buy drugs. The creepiest thing about it is that I sensed nothing. He's just brutally murdered an old woman and I sensed nothing about him that he was a dangerous human being. For me, that's far worse than a mad-eyed crazy guy turning out to be a killer.
Its crazy to think that all that separates us from being murdered or raped (or whatever) is crossing paths with a murderer or rapist. You can walk down a dark, desolate road 1,000 times and be perfectly safe. Its that 1,001st time that your path gets crossed by someone like that. And most murderers dont have swastikas carved in their skin. They look like everyone else. Scary shit.
In the late 90's, I signed up for a clown workshop (out in the Massachusetts Berkshires) that was led by Wavy Gravy. For those who don't know of him, he was the Master of Ceremonies at Woodstock. Both a clown and a great philanthropist, always looking for donations to his special cause for disadvantaged kids at his Camp Winnarainbow. Sweet, sweet man. Still lives on his commune out in CA. Wavy told me a story of when he and his fellow hippie commune members were gathered in one room for some sacred chanting, which got louder and more powerful. Wavy heard a car in the driveway and looked outside. Some hippie kids stepped out of an old junk car, and the last one to emerge was a short skinny little guy everyone seemed to defer to. The guy stood there for a moment looking around, and suddenly became aware of the spiritual chanting, which got louder and louder. He got a look on his face of excruciating pain, clapped his hands over his ears, and quickly rounded everybody up. They got into the car and tore out of there. The man was Charles Manson.
@@chunkatronic he would have been able to do that with touch. I don't think he was born blind or anything, he probably had a lifetimes experience of saddling horses
I had a similar experience with the brother of a friend. Something about her brother just didn't vibe with me. I was friends with her in Jr High and part of HS. So sometimes in HS I would stay at her house after school off and on so I met her brother (she was really younger compared to her siblings who were all in their late 20s and older). And She kept telling me something was wrong with her brother but everyone talks smack about their siblings so I didn't think anything of it. Ends up about a yr or two after we graduated HS, her brother was on the news for having murdered some family friends. All I could remember was something about feeling a coldness when I was around him and his eyes being dead. :/ He got the death penalty at some point.
steve henderson cool cool, maybe not glamorize this lifestyle and type of person tho? Look into your creative gifts and obscure interests and try to apply yourself, to express these things in a way that makes people like you feel like they have a place where they belong and they can be effective even though they struggle to turn ideas into a reality. A lot of artists struggle with that and being able to endure that and come out of it, is something you can be proud of. A nice feeling of accomplishment I encourage you to explore is when you can make something that enriches your and others’ lives.
steve henderson firstly you’ve just further proved to me that you don’t get girls.... stop acting like you’re so above others. Not giving a shit about equality and political correctness doesn’t make you seem edgy or badass it just makes you seem like a delusional prick. I suppose your mother must be proud of your views on woman staying in line and doing what they got to do for men. Then again i bet you’re parents aren’t proud of you anyway... You are not coming across as smart or cool or a man that doesn’t give any fucks, you’re just coming across as a fucking loser who probably hasn’t washed his bed sheets in 4 years
steve henderson you are one of the most stupidest people i’ve ever met, talking shit about “i don’t give a shit about u or your views” what and we all do with your cringey paragraph you left 😂 you really are stupid to think that i’m a girl merely on the fact that i don’t agree with your misogynistic views on women. classic hypocrite, “feminism is toxic” what and your views on women aren’t toxic 😂 i seriously can’t tell if your a 12 year old who thinks they are above everyone and so deep or a fat 40 year old virgin who has no friends and has a creepy thing for asian girls... either way you’re fucking stupid as hell, definitely got grease stains on your ipad don’t you
i have a story thats similar in a way... my friend and i once met this girl at an upscale party, we chatted innocently quite a while and after we left the party i remember saying how down to earth she was for someone that looked like a beauty queen. the next morning i open the newspaper to see her picture and it turned out that she was Miss Canada at the time. as i'm reading this in shock my phone rings with my friend on the line saying... no way! ok its not charlie manson but i prefer my encounter to his!
2:01 - 2:05 Bryan's impression of Charles "going with the movement of the horse" was creepy. His eyes, mainly. Excellent job communicating Charles' appearance.
I noticed that comment also. A couple of times in my life I've seen people who had eyes like that. One of them was on TV, a man who had killed a couple of other men in a bar fight and was then on death row. The other was a roommate I had in college for less than a semester. Roommate was an elaborate practical joker and what I would call a sadist. I moved out and roommate had two more roommates before the semester ended. That was a little over 40 years ago and I still say that if I found out my former roommate had been arrested for killing people over a period of time I wouldn't be surprised.
@@andrewbrendan1579 I've met my share of people with dead eyes, usually green or blue, they all fit the bill for a sociopath, very outgoing, lots of stories and always trying to impress and more than happy to give you a hand to show what good boys they were
@@deltoroperdedor3166 I've seen eyes like that on a politician or three... The ones who get busted for stuff like sexual assault, or a hit-and-run, usually.
The singer Meatloaf recounted how one time he picked up a hitchhiker and gave a ride to Denis Wilson's (of the Beach Boys) house but that the hitchhiker spooked him out and he left the hitchhiker quickly. Then one year later he saw on the news that they captured the murderers of the Tate and LaBianca murders and it turned out to be the hitchhiker Charles Manson.
@Hard Dik yeah I met him in Scotland in 67' and I fucked all his girls! I was only 2 yrs old but with Charlie working that witchy magic hell anything was possible weoooooooooooooo
@Hard Dik meatloaf would have been in the same music circle as Charles manson tho. . . Same as the Mamas and the papas. Not that farfetched when you look at the scene in the 60-70s
I had a friend who knew Charlie when he was young and lived in McMechan. She said at that time he was a good boy, but you can tell why he became how he was.
I had a medical issue and almost died when I came to at the hospital Manson's death was on TV and I thought to myself just my luck I was almost in line at the pearly gates with manson would have liked to have heard what St Peter said
The Lord might have said , "Only One of you is getting into Heaven". And Crazy Charlie would have turned to you and said , "Well it sucks to be you" ! Lol
Which made no sense because he knew Terry Melcher moved - he had dropped by there looking for Terry weeks or even months beforehand and he was told Terry no longer lived there.
Wow what an amazing story. I didn’t know Bryan grew up in LA. That’s so fascinating. I wonder how he got into acting. His face is so animated when he recalls events. Most people kind of half do impressions of events, not him lol.
Dennis Wilson never "tried to get the Beach Boys to "join the Manson group." Yes, he invited Mike Love and Bruce Johnston over to dinner once while the Manson Family was staying at his house, and he convinced the Beach Boys to record a song that Charles Manson had written and that Dennis had rewritten, but that's it. Dennis never asked the Manson family to move into his house. They just showed up one day when Dennis wasn't home, after he had picked up two female family members who were hitchhiking. Living with the family got so bad that after a few months Dennis moved out and stopped paying the rent, which forced the landlord to evict them. They threatened his family and trashed his house and his Ferrari after he paid over $100,000 in medical bills for them. Dennis wanted nothing to do with them long before the Tate LaBianca murders happened.
@@BobSacamano666 From what I've read, Manson's beef with Dennis was because Dennis rewrote some of the lyrics and changed the title, and not because of any perceived theft of the song.
Manson’s group were also the people that were giving him his tour on horseback. Lol. The manson family worked as tour guides for the person who was letting them live on the ranch. Its not scary because he came in contact with Manson, its scary because everyone there would’ve helped bury his ass 😂.
anyone read 'manson in his own words'? cos theres a story he tells where he went walking out into the desert with only a canteen of cold coffee, walked too far out and ended up exhausted and almost died on his way back. he'd been gone for like a day or two, this sounds like it could have been him on his way back at the end of that journey. wild
@OutWestRedDirt grim hustle is new to me but the other two I know of, yet to actually read their works more watch on UA-cam but yeah i gotta get my reading up.
I met him in H.O.J.J.,when he was in high power awaiting trial and I was a trustee .It freaked me out ! I brought the food to his block 1350.Nobody told me that this was where they kept high profile inmates.
One day in 1969, The Beach Boy’s drummer told Charles that he would talk to his friend, legendary music producer Terry Melcher, about Charlie’s music. So they went to a party at Terry Melcher’s house one night up in Laurel Canyon. After some light conversation, Terry decided that his friend Dennis’ new friend wasn’t as talented and promising as Dennis had described, in fact he was kinda weird. Then very casually, he brushed Charlie off and avoided him for the rest of the evening. But Charles felt disrespected. He just wasn’t willing to accept “no” for an answer! A few nights later, he sent some members of his “family” to pay Mr. Melcher a visit and to confront him about his big mistake disrespecting Charlie that way. The problem was that Terry Melcher wasn’t home.....in fact, he was away for a few weeks. And unbeknownst to Charlie he had invited his friends to come stay at his place over the summer. That night his friends were home relaxing and enjoying glasses of wine when they heard the doorbell ring.
That's not how it went down exactly. Terry Melcher had showed considerable interest in Charlie's music, even visiting him at the ranch, before finally blowing him off. And he had moved from the Cielo Drive property months before the murders -- the house was being leased by Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate. Most observers find it difficult to believe that Charlie wouldn't have know that Melcher had moved on, but there's no consensus.
My sister, April, used to care for his horses in Topanga Canyon. She nearly got mixed up with him, said he was very charming. She was worried that she was going to get subpoenaed.
I had a very similar encounter with Jeff Dahmer, only we actually had a conversation (sort of) as we were about the same age. I know exactly how Bryan felt when he saw the news.
I'm not trying to plug Netflix but If you're into Manson, watch MindHunter. The actor playing Manson is eerily good, in fact other actors doing Kemper and Berkowitz were the best imitators I've ever seen.
We had a friend at about 13-14 who we called Crazy Ronnie. I won't describe how he got the name, but suffice it to say, after that event my best friend says, "Yeah, I don't think we should hang out with that guy anymore." To which I agreed.
Dennis Wilson roughed Charlie up when he threatened to hurt his son because the lyrics were changed in "Never Learn How Not to Love" which was actually titled "Cease to Exist".
I went to HS in the SFV 1971-73. A girl that I knew who was older than me went to Chatsworth HS. Just a couple of miles from the Spahn ranch. In the late 60's they use to go buy weed from all the hippies there. Charlie was known as Good Grass Charlie. She said there were at least 15-20 girls/women there. They all dressed like slobs and were dirty. The guys all looked insane. They use to go the Ralphs on Topanga Cyn and dumpster dive for food all the time. I'm sure a lot of teenagers in the West Valley at one time came across that group.
To any murderinos: wasn’t there an email talking about someone’s grandma stopping her from going to a horse ranch because her grandma had bad vibes from a man on the hill that turned out to be Charles Manson?
I honestly don't know how true it is, and I only have the word of my dad on this, but apparently my dad knew Sharron Tate, as he lived somewhere near her when they were younger. It tore him up when it happened. Again, this is just what my dad told me. And it was really out of the blue too, because I remember the first time he said anything about it, it wasn't like he was bragging or anything. I was watching something on TV about the murders, and he just got *really* uncomfortable and asked me very quietly to turn the channel. It being sort of weird, and me being a curious teenager I asked him. "why?". So he told me. And that was that. He never brought it up again. So I want to believe it, and thinking back on it now, I think my dad really liked her when they were younger, and she was "the one that got away" so to speak. They went their separate ways, she got dumb famous, and my dad did pretty well playing music professionally. And then she was murdered. Like I said, really tore him up.
I've got a feeling your dad was in on her murder. Especially after you mention him being a musician!!!! I bet he got tangled up with Manson through music and ended up on the murder trip. Bet he was jealous because she was pregnant with another man's baby!!! So he killed her!
@@HYDN150 lol hey it sounds good and would make a nice twist to all the years of the Manson story. Lol can you imagine the news stories? The whole Manson gang was wrongly jailed all these years and were not involved!!!! Lol
@@WhiteCamry He played a variety of stuff. Had a few of his own bands that did pretty well in the local scene back in the day, and got lucky enough to tour the west coast with some of the bigger names at the time. He mostly played country/classic rock. 50s and 60s stuff.
wcassady correct. And the house where Sharon and Roman Polanski lived has been Terry Melcher’s. So the theory is that Manson chose that house because Terry Melcher turned him down but he hadn’t realized Melcher had moved.
@@MarySammons10 And they've said since then that the theory was debunked but I'm not sure I believe that. It's too coincidental. Unless Charlie picked it because he was already familiar with it. But with how violent the crime was I think there was a connection
Turns out it was a Vietnam vet flash-backing "CHARLIE'S ON THE HILL!!" ...the guy retrieved on horseback was just another hippie that got lost on a 'lude trip, but the prolonged exposure to blue ice has enhanced his memory.
Since we're all sharing, as a kid I was best friends with my next-door neighbor my same age. we'd hang out all the time and do stuff, and at one point, I met his cousin, but didn't think much of him (seemed like he was destined for trouble). Some years later they all got into drugs, and I walked away from them. A few years after that, I heard on the news that my best friend had been arrested for murdering his cousin over some drug deal gone wrong. Not too many degrees of freedom between us and life going severely sideways, a mix of luck and the choices we make...
Oh yeah! Now I remember the scene he’s referring to from Once upon a time in Hollywood in which Bryan Cranston visits Spawn ranch & ends up fighting hippies on horseback.
Everyone should check out Tom O'Neill's 2019 book, _Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties._ The real story of Charles Manson is even crazier than most people realize.
@@helpfulcommenter - Dismissing ideas without even examining evidence is for the weak-minded, and saying that conspiracy theories could never be true is lazy, sloppy, and historically inaccurate.
@@helpfulcommenter - Yes, it's funny how the corporate media has had so much contempt for "tinfoil-hat conspiracies," only to turn around & promote their own (like "Russiagate," for which they never had the evidence that they alleged). But as you said, that was intended to distract & control people---just they do when they deny or ignore other, real conspiracies. It's all about maintaining power & control for them. So to react to corporate lies by going back to ignoring & automatically dismissing all "conspiracy theories" is still playing into the hands of those manipulative powers that be and ignoring what they want you to ignore. Automatically dismissing those ideas is just as sloppy as automatically believing them---it all comes down to evidence, facts, and logic. O'Neill's book _Chaos_ has plenty of those things---and besides, the events took place back in the '60s & '70s, and the book isn't being constantly promoted by corporate media. Whenever corporate news makes a coordinated effort to push a certain story, being suspicious is probably justified---but that's not the case with a book like O'Neill's _Chaos._
@@helpfulcommenter - So conspiracy theories are stupid & crazy , unless it's the corporate news & Democrats pushing them? Did you say that "conspiracies are for the weak-minded" when Rachel Maddow started pushing them, or were you cool with _those_ conspiracy theories since they were used to bash the political team you root against? And hey, criticize Republicans all you want (they certainly deserve it), but if you think it's only _one_ political party who spins, lies, and manipulates, then you're already pretty brainwashed, and probably just the other side of the same coin that you're criticizing.
@@titusmccarthy No idea what you are trying to spell, but your caps lock is stuck on again. Thank God our beloved president Donald john Trump is running unopposed and we are guaranteed another term in November.
That's exactly how I felt when they arrested Eileen Wournos. I knew her years before she started killing people and she was as crazy as a sprayed roach back then.
I’m sure that small incident was as powerful as he said. Manson certainly was an unforgettable figure. I was scared of him just seeing him on TV in NY. IMAGINE passing that close to him and hearing what had happened. Scary for sure.
When I was a kid we used to go for a swim in a nearby lake. We hung out at that lake very often in summer, but then one day we stopped and never went there again. The reason has nothing to do with Charles Manson. I never met him and neither did my friends. Sorry to disappoint you. Thank you for reading my comment.
Neil Young, who owned his famous ranch and spread in the canyon country, was a neighbor of CM and said he would occasionally see him and that CM obviously couldn't take rejection, as he was turned down by record companies who did not sign him or offer a record deal.
Neil Young was a lot more familiar with Charles than you make it sound. They knew each other well and spent a lot of time together, You also left out the part that explains Young worked more himself on getting Manson a record deal than Manson himself did. Young was pitching Charles to Moe Epstein for months and months. Young wanted Manson to get a deal more than Manson ever did. Neil wanted to make money off of Charles.
Surprised. This year I learned Cranston was on the Seinfeld show. Over the years now and then I wondered who that actor was and if he had much success. Good for him. He did the job even back then.
BTK was arrested mere miles from my grandparents house and I shudder to think that I likely shopped at the same Walmart as him at the same time as him while visiting my grandparents
I remember being at a stable in the Kern River bottom on the SE corner of Manor Dr and Roberts Ln. in Bakersfield and seeing a van pull up and a couple of guys got out and they were looking for someone. I distinctly remember two things about one of them, his black eyes and hair parted on the side at a time when most of us parted it down the middle. I was 14 at the time and it was early 1969. I say early because we were still wearing jackets. Sitting on the floor at my parents house watching the new I remember seeing that individual in handcuffs and a cold chill ran right through me that i will never forget. I knew it was the same guy. Evidently, they had come from the desert where they hole up at the Barker Ranch in Inyo Co. to look for whomever it was. Very scary.
Not only that but the the Labiancas had just got back from Lake Isabella which is an hour away from bakersfield and Death Valley. There are tons of ranches around Lake Isabella which is where I’m from they could’ve been at anyone of them. Matter affect one of my moms friends nieces was a follower of Manson she still has an x on her forehead
The ranch is out in the Chatsworth area, down the Santa Susana Pass Road. I live just a few miles away in Woodland Hills. Val Kilmer said he used to live out there with his family when he was a kid, and go to the ranch to ride as well when Charlie was out there.
@GMoorefan115 Have you read it? I’m gonna bet not. It more serves to bullshit narrative we were led to believe. The Helter Skelter motive. And raises a lot of questions by poking holes in the official story. O’Neill himself goes to great pains to say a lot of what he discovered will probably never be completely confirmed and is hesitant to go too much further with pure speculation. I’m not into conspiracies, but I know bullshit stories put forth by authority and/or wealth and power are not rare. What would you recommend I read? The New York Times?
In the movie "The Disaster Artist," Greg Sestero has a chance encounter with Bryan Cranston, who I believe invites him to play a part on "Malcolm in the Middle" while he's filming "The Room." Tommy forces Greg to pass on that opportunity in order to film his movie. I looked into it again and it turns out it maybe didnt happen in real life? But I read Greg's book (also called "The Disaster Artist," on which the movie of the same name was based), and I'm pretty sure it's in there, too.
I went to the Manson Murder anniversary party (24 years later) at the old Tate house. Trent Reznor was renting the place and threw a party for the bands Chemlab and Skrew. The house is no longer there, a new one was built on that site.
@@VividFilmProductions Well, not really....there were no other guests in the house besides the bands and crew. Maybe I shouldn't use the word "party". Flood and I were the only ones smoking pot! There wasn't any loud music or wild women!
@@VividFilmProductions Yes! Trent and Flood were at the Roxy that night to watch Chemlab and Skrew. Since Nine Inch Nails and Chemlab toured together, they were close friends, so he invited all of us back to his place. I was told we were going to a party at the Tate house after the show and FREAKED OUT. I had made a Manson "fanzine" about a year before and was fasinated by the Helter Skelter murders. The original call box and gate were still there too. I never forget the front door! We got the house tour with a hard copy of the book to guide us to all the exact murder spots. It was quite overwhelming to say the least.
@@1santos1 that really is cool! Such a shame it was torn down. Reznor said he had to leave cause the house started to weigh on him and Sharon tates sister visited once and accused him of exploiting her death. He felt guilty and left. Did you feel any weird vibes or was it pretty normal?
I met one of Charlie's followers while working at the waffle House, he was the cook. That was about 12 years ago and I think he's working there still. George used to try to convince me that Charlie was a great guy and had nothing to do with any of the s*** that went down. I ended up telling him right before I quit that he was as unhinged as Manson was.
@@BobSacamano666 I don't believe they ever pinned any actual murder directly by his hands on him. What he was guilty of was leading a whole cult of people into doing his killing for him, typical coward move!
@@BobSacamano666 oh no my dear you are wrong, it's called aiding and abetting if you initiate somebody else to murder somebody else. Even in suicide attempts people are now being prosecuted for manslaughter. If somebody on the internet tells you to go kill yourself and you do if they can track down the person that initiated the bullying that person is charged with manslaughter. In most states it's a minimum 3-year prison sentence. In some states you can draw a life off of it!
I encountered Charles Manson in the summer on 1967 in San Francisco. He was panhandling on Haight street. A friend of mine who lived in the Haight - Asbury told me to check out this long haired panhandler. He said many people were following him as a kind of shaman. I hung around for about 10 minutes to catch Manson's act. I said to my friend this guy's a psycho and an illiterate and dangerous and that he is going to destroy any thing that is good about the hippies. My friend and I are now 76 years old. We still watch the parking meters. We still don't follow leaders.
@fifty moore If you indoctrinate a group of gullible numbskulls, and order them to go and kill people, then you bear responsibility too. It's like murder for hire. The person with the money may not have fired the gun, but they're still in prison if convicted.
Yes mind blowing that a classically trained, award winning actor can impress a dimwitted ignorant fan boy while performing his self created urban fiction. Man I only disliked you because of being a bald faced liar and despite all your screen and media time you are still so desperate for attention that you would do something so embarrassing and dishonest. Now I don't like you even more because your most dedicated fans are giving clear signs of epic stupidity and fucktardery, but hey if there Hollywood hero has no truth or scruples why would his dullard followers? They wanna be like you ya lyin' Hollywood disappointment, either you were doin real meth on Breakin' Bad or your assuming anyone that would bother to listen to you are meth heads, but naa bro, you possibly went hack riding at Spahn, which I tend to doubt now that you told three lies so easy to discredit and prove false, but if you did and can create provide any reasonable substantiation of being there ever, which even that would take me less than twenty minutes of easy questions to ascertain if you had actually been there, and I sincerely hope at least that isn't a lie naa best case scenario here is when you were a little kid you went hack riding and as years passed by, as story tellers do, you embellished and took some creative liberties, it's not in a general sense some horrible shit, but being you as I mentioned get more than your share of attention and admiration and set against something that a majority are so hopelessly uneducated about, truth not myth, and the shit connected to it all, dude if you knowingly just premeditated a work here, it's fucking pretty vile man. I hope that isn't the case. But you absolutely didn't see Charlie, or any details you colored the story with concerning him sorry man
@@Guardsgotgame11 Yea um, actually I am a writer and get paid for it when I'm not making some dullard hurt is head reading some sentences. I know you haven't read jack shit that's for sure oh inconsequential, faceless, witless, dick-less sperg.
I was on a Merchant Marine ship going to Samoa when the news of the killings came over the radio, I had long hair and was eighteen years old. I got some real bad vibes from the crew so I got a haircut right away. Everybody was paranoid. I hate Charlie for what he did and I never could understand weak minded sheep.
100% factual and I believe him. 1000's of people in the LA area had experiences or contact with Manson and the girls in various degress and thought nothing of it until the murders. Spahn ranch was a well-known horseback riding stable, and George Spahn got his income in the middle to late 60's from horseback riding. The family use to conduct those rides in exchange to stay at the ranch. Spahn ranch was located right in the greater Los Angeles County and Bryan was born and raised in LA. and he could have easily been at Spahn several times.
To all the idiots saying he's lying...i've heard him tell this story a few times. It's always the same. Why would he have to make up a story about Charles Manson. I think the guy is successful enough not to have to do that.
Manson has a ton of Hollywood connections. Reading a book on it now. The guy who wrote it was just interviewed on Rogan. Book is excellent. It’s titled Chaos Charles Manson , the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties
Brad Gaines before the Simi Valley freeway (118) opened in the early 70’s the only road between the San Fernando Valley and the Simi Valley was the Santa Susana Pass Rd. Simi was already a crowded bedroom community. Thousands of commuters crawled bumper to bumper past Spahn Ranch every day. . It was really a small collection of ramshackle old west buildings used as a movie/tv set. If it ever had best days they were long behind it. I commuted past it every day from 65-68 to my 4 to 12 shift in a Hospital. I frequently dropped off cowboy and hippy hitchhikers there and would occasionally rent horses there. Cranston certainly knows the place. BTW it was much smaller than the place used for “Once Upon a Time In Hollywood.” Great movie!
@@ROFO79 I listened to the Rogan podcast. Super interesting.
@@jw362 wow! That's awesome. I guess you never saw Manson?
Brad Gaines no, but I think one of the hitchhikers I dropped off several times was Shorty Shea
Crazy Charlie use to tell stories about passing Heisenberg on horse back.
Lol
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Heisen'burg' american education, no?
@@notgonnalie1846 stuck up European, no?
Btw, American not american
You know who I am.
Say my name!
I don't know why so many people saying he's lying, plenty of folks in their 65-75 years old that grew up in that area of Los Angeles knew the crazy group of Manson.
The counter culture were well aware of them
Yes many people who were 18 in 1967,like myself are STILL ALIVE!
@@cosmicHalArizona Same here !! I was in L.A. Working after the murders. I met a bunch of people who knew someone from the Family or the Ranch.. the counter culture was actually pretty small back then .I have no doubt he & his cousin saw a whacked out Manson in the wild..
If you'll pardon my rhetorical language, everybody's got to live somewhere -- and most of us don't stay living in a single place our entire lives.
Anyways.. I grew up in the Cincinnati, OH area and live here now once again. I've had a few different people tell me over the years that Charlie Manson once lived on our local Madison Avenue, a road that connects four or five local suburbs. At least one of them added that "he used to walk up and down Madison all the time". I've never bothered to look it up, though i've no reason to doubt anyone who had told me this.
probably the same people that claim Manson was innocent.
I like how he corrected himself before saying "Manson Murders" by changing it to the correct "Tate & LaBianca Murders". Doing justice to truth.
Probably because Manson didn't actually have anything to do with the murders. The fact that Roman Polanski was pedophile, Tex was the one actually supplying LSD and not Charlie, and the fact that the government wanted him to look like "Jesus" just so they could make his story more sensational should be factors that people think about but they don't because they'd rather believe Charles was some psycho maniac.
And why do you think that is? Because even if the Helter Skelter shit was true, he never planned on being on the "White" side, he wanted black people to take back their land. That's why he used the Swastika for exactly what it truly meant, it's original meaning from Hinduism. It's the reason in his interviews he was exposing different hand gestures and movements of certain secret societies. It's the reason they tried to make it seem like he was nothing more than some clout chasing musician. They didn't want people to realize what Charles actually did. Even when people think it's crazy that musicians could have been speaking to him through coded messages in songs is because people don't know that in MKUltra, they actually programmed people with certain music and sounds. They programmed certain musicians so that they would be almost distant handlers of certain slaves, this is the main reason they put out Manchurian Candidate in the 60s, ironically trying to show the Commies doing brain washing all while they were literally over 10 years into their own mind control experiments.
Those two women were very likely victims of Roman Polanski and through guided meditation (which even Danny Trejo confirmed was a thing Charles would do) they realized what they wanted to do. And if you think that's playing with the power of suggestions, then what exactly would you think subliminal messaging is?
@@abikegavin9641 don't do drugs, kids
@@abikegavin9641 interesting.
@@s92dx Don't do drugs? I'm not quite sure if you feel that what I said indicates I'm on drugs or the part about Tex supplying the LSD. If it's the former, I hadn't even smoked weed yet when writing that and not only that, but a lot of this comes from actually researching the case.
Even Charles said it in a interview that he didn't want to grow out his hair or his beard, he didn't want to look like Jesus yet they wouldn't let him get it cut, because it made him out to be sensational, something that made people want him yet also despise him immensely.
And yes the government did indeed perform mind control experiments that spanned about 20 or so years. And yes, while they were performing those experiments they put out Manchurian Candidate '62, these are facts you can easily look up right now. As well, to give a real good example of coded messaging and if you merely see it as coincidence then that is your right to do so. Back in the 60s-70s were the releases of the Planet Of The Apes movies. In 1972 was the creation of the MOVE organization, an afro-activist group that they called a "Back to Nature" group. In 1978 there was a standoff between them and the Philadelphia Police Department and in 1984, there was a bombing of 64 houses that all housed MOVE members. For fuck sakes, they used to actively carefully and meticulously splice in subliminals to drink Coke, do you really think that was the end and only use of subliminal advertising?
And yes, you can also look up the fact that Tex (the other Charles) did indeed introduce LSD to the ranch, around the exact same time the government was working on using LSD as mind control. Do you really just see that as a coincedence? Do you think Cointelpro was merely for Afro people? Did you think the government merely hated hippies for smoking weed and having sex? Or do you think they hate whenever people come together to actually complain about the government?
@@abikegavin9641 you sound like you’re on drugs
His story sounds like it could be straight out of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
@@davyjonesvideos he is talking absolute shit because Charlie never took drugs to the level where he was that incapacitated due to the fact that he needed to keep control, not just of himself but the girls as well. Bullshitter
Ben Dream You’d be the one to know right?
@@bendream544 I dont know where you're getting your info from, but pretty much everyone who was staying at spahns ranch at the time, and Charlie himself have said that he and the entire Manson family were doing increasingly high doses of Acid. And the idea that he had to stay sober in order to control them is also wrong. All of those girls had fully bought in to Charlie's manipulations and ideology. There was no need for him to keep an eye on them 24/7 because he already knew they were devoted to him. That's how cults work. He would even leave the girls at the ranch for weeks or months on end by themselves. How was he keeping control of them then?
@@cody3599 you're giving him too much credit by assuming that he's ever even read a book
@@cody3599 I didn't say he never took acid or speed at one time. I read loads of books about Manson and the 'family' because I was always fascinated by why people followed this little clown, and my conclusion was that yes of course he'd dabbled enough to work out the benefits of their controlling powers but remember he was learning at the same time as the rest of the world, and that is why he went from wannabe pimp to cult leader in such a small space of time and I don't think there was any forward planning on his part, you only have to watch any of his prison interviews to get how foolish the twat is. When he starts that dancing around trying to impress whoever believing that he has some kind of powers over whatever and I'm the same way of thinking about people who still think there is any reality to Charlie's magical ways. I did all my 'research' in the 70's and 80's and that is where it should have been left as there is absolutely nothing worth getting into past that time except for its about time any of the girls left alive should be let out of jail as there is no reason to keep them there other than that bullshit human need for revenge which they wouldn't like visited upon themselves if their own committed offences of the same magnitude. But to say that Charlie was necking increasing doses and keeping control of these people believe me is almost impossible. He made sure he was dishing out the drugs personally which is red flag behaviour for a start and the rest of it by anybody else afterwards is just speculation. Bugliosi is a far better specimen for investigation even though he's died and got away with his crimes. ....
Bryan Cranston has always struck me as a cool, humble guy who is always gracious during interviews and fan encounters. I've loved him for 30 years.
good for you...
Too bad hes a rabid woke liberal
Trump hater, right?
"Charlies on the hill!", I'm suprised they didnt think Vietnam, haha!
Lmao
For the WIN!!
Charlie dont surf
“Charlie’s on the hill “ code for Charlie’s tripping again.
😂🤦🏽♂️
You should have said to Manson, "I AM the danger."
Lmao 😂
lol yeah right.
You are goddamn right
Lmaoooo
Little 12 year old Heisenberg lol
I'm a few years older than Bryan. I grew up in the valley and my friends and I used to hitchhike to Chatsworth Park, which is very close to Spahn Ranch. We liked to climb up the rocks and smoke pot. It was a beautiful area. We also would hitchhike down Topanga Canyon Blvd to go to the beach. I remember one time we got picked up by a carload of "hippies". When Manson and his followers got arrested for the murders, and I found out that they hung out st Spahn Ranch, I kind of freaked out. I sometimes wonder if those hippies that picked me and my friend up were part of his group. Either way, I'm so thankful nothing bad ever happened to me. I was kind of a dumb teenager.
Don’t worry, most of us were.
MsKraftee MsKraftee - don’t feel bad ...I think we were all dumb teenagers haha from a baby boomer - peace love 💗
John Salvage seeing as I was a teen in the early 2000s, no I did not.
MsKraftee no just a teenager.
That reminds me of the time something didn't happen to me, too!
Charles Manson vs Heisenberg
That's fucking stupid
My money's on heisenberg
@@Peekadam tightass
Heisenberg would kick that skinny mops ass
Heisenberg 1 - Manson nil
Years later Charlie was watching Malcolm in the middle in his cell and started yelling, I KNOW THAT GUY I KNOW THAT GUY!
Lol life comes full circle
Back in 2005, I had a customer in my finance office who was an elderly, frail woman. We got to talking and it turns out that she was a retired psychologist who used to work for the California State Department of Corrections at the Corcoran Prison. She was Manson's shrink for over 20 years! She told me that Charlie was a tiny guy, maybe 5'2" and 135 lbs. wet. She said he had piercing, soulless eyes, was bat shit crazy (her exact words) and she could understand how young people, especially girls, could be manipulated by him because he was so good at it.
Manson was actually 5ft 6 and 3/4 exactly. On his drivers license and multiple arrest booking records he was measured as 5ft 6 or 7. The only reason people thought he was so short was his famous mugshot photo where he was standing in the wrong spot (supposed to be standing in the yellow box on the ground) and the camera being at the wrong angle/level, making it look like the top of his head lining up with 5ft 2.
Wasnt he like 5'4"
@@G_xx_ He's just a deuce now...
b.o.l.o.x
Girls are so easy to manipulate because they're dumb and like losers(badboys) usually...
He used to live two blocks from where my maternal family grew up in Ashland Kentucky, my grandma said it caused quite a stir when he would sit on the porch naked and play guitar.
Why would that bother anybody?😊
WTF?! 🤣
@@dlac1982 not on Hilton Ave...
Charles Manson or Bryan Cranston ?
@@ajdoyle9559 Manson
Bet he was riding on a horse with no name
It probably felt good to be out of the rain too
America... 😆
The first thing he met was a fly with a buzz
he was pepper sprayed by a police officer shortly after
In the desert?
my brother and i wandered into a police sting out by Spahn Ranch the day before the cops busted the ranch to arrest the gang of kids. They threw us in jail for a day before releasing us the next day. We were long hairs in a VW, the family was stealing those. . Fun fact: Bryan went to my grammar school , SunnyBrae Elementary school, a few years behind me.
William Sandell ye old fuck
Thats crazy. Glad they didnt hold you for to long
That's actually really cool though
ou are an idiot.
@@TheresaPowers you're *
I used to hang around with some er... 'unpleasant,' types. Smoke pot at the dealer's house and so forth. One night a guy come round and offered to swap a ring for some pot. The dealer said no and I looked at it and bought it cheap. When the guy left the dealer said he never takes things as he does not know where they come from and what it might implicate him in. I remember feeling a little freaked by that statement but the lad that sold it seemed like a friendly normal guy in his early 20s. I gave the ring to my girlfriend as a gift.
Then it came back to me the kid had been arrested for breaking into an old ladies home, murdering her and stealing her jewellery. He'd come straight from murdering her to buy drugs. The creepiest thing about it is that I sensed nothing. He's just brutally murdered an old woman and I sensed nothing about him that he was a dangerous human being. For me, that's far worse than a mad-eyed crazy guy turning out to be a killer.
Its crazy to think that all that separates us from being murdered or raped (or whatever) is crossing paths with a murderer or rapist. You can walk down a dark, desolate road 1,000 times and be perfectly safe. Its that 1,001st time that your path gets crossed by someone like that. And most murderers dont have swastikas carved in their skin. They look like everyone else. Scary shit.
Carolanne lady that’s why I don’t walk down dark, desolate roads 😂
@@dylanolson4600 youre no fun! 😉
And they say drugs is a victimless crime.
@@dennydeckerful and they say jewelry is a victimless crime
I just imagined bryan as leo dicaprio, pointing at the tv with that cigarette in his hand.
Ha ha, “god damn hippies!”
get this mechanical asshole off my fuckin street!
In the late 90's, I signed up for a clown workshop (out in the Massachusetts Berkshires) that was led by Wavy Gravy. For those who don't know of him, he was the Master of Ceremonies at Woodstock. Both a clown and a great philanthropist, always looking for donations to his special cause for disadvantaged kids at his Camp Winnarainbow. Sweet, sweet man. Still lives on his commune out in CA. Wavy told me a story of when he and his fellow hippie commune members were gathered in one room for some sacred chanting, which got louder and more powerful. Wavy heard a car in the driveway and looked outside. Some hippie kids stepped out of an old junk car, and the last one to emerge was a short skinny little guy everyone seemed to defer to. The guy stood there for a moment looking around, and suddenly became aware of the spiritual chanting, which got louder and louder. He got a look on his face of excruciating pain, clapped his hands over his ears, and quickly rounded everybody up. They got into the car and tore out of there. The man was Charles Manson.
The only part of this that I find hard to believe is that wavy freakin gravy is still alive lol
Honestly, I thought that this story would be about John Wayne Gacy.
So even hippies can't stand hippies.
@@mattmoves5920 Back then, my husband summed up the hippie movement beautifully. He said it was just another excuse to hate.
Wavys spirit irritated Charlie's demons
The old guy he's talking about was probably George Spahn.
RodneyLee
Super was talking about the old guy who told Cranston and his cousin not to worry about the Manson family.
SuperStrik9 fuck yea Cannibal Corpse! \m/
it is in fact george spahn he's referring to
Maybe, but Spahn was blind, so not sure if he would have been saddling up horses for 13 year olds.
@@chunkatronic he would have been able to do that with touch. I don't think he was born blind or anything, he probably had a lifetimes experience of saddling horses
Bryan Cranston sure is the best actor. He's got the most expression telling a story, that I've ever seen❗
Unbelievable ❗
I had a similar experience with the brother of a friend. Something about her brother just didn't vibe with me. I was friends with her in Jr High and part of HS. So sometimes in HS I would stay at her house after school off and on so I met her brother (she was really younger compared to her siblings who were all in their late 20s and older). And She kept telling me something was wrong with her brother but everyone talks smack about their siblings so I didn't think anything of it. Ends up about a yr or two after we graduated HS, her brother was on the news for having murdered some family friends. All I could remember was something about feeling a coldness when I was around him and his eyes being dead. :/ He got the death penalty at some point.
steve henderson cool cool, maybe not glamorize this lifestyle and type of person tho? Look into your creative gifts and obscure interests and try to apply yourself, to express these things in a way that makes people like you feel like they have a place where they belong and they can be effective even though they struggle to turn ideas into a reality. A lot of artists struggle with that and being able to endure that and come out of it, is something you can be proud of. A nice feeling of accomplishment I encourage you to explore is when you can make something that enriches your and others’ lives.
steve henderson your favourite movie is definitely joker
steve henderson dude what??? 😂 you must be great at talking to girls...
steve henderson firstly you’ve just further proved to me that you don’t get girls.... stop acting like you’re so above others. Not giving a shit about equality and political correctness doesn’t make you seem edgy or badass it just makes you seem like a delusional prick. I suppose your mother must be proud of your views on woman staying in line and doing what they got to do for men. Then again i bet you’re parents aren’t proud of you anyway... You are not coming across as smart or cool or a man that doesn’t give any fucks, you’re just coming across as a fucking loser who probably hasn’t washed his bed sheets in 4 years
steve henderson you are one of the most stupidest people i’ve ever met, talking shit about “i don’t give a shit about u or your views” what and we all do with your cringey paragraph you left 😂 you really are stupid to think that i’m a girl merely on the fact that i don’t agree with your misogynistic views on women. classic hypocrite, “feminism is toxic” what and your views on women aren’t toxic 😂 i seriously can’t tell if your a 12 year old who thinks they are above everyone and so deep or a fat 40 year old virgin who has no friends and has a creepy thing for asian girls... either way you’re fucking stupid as hell, definitely got grease stains on your ipad don’t you
i have a story thats similar in a way... my friend and i once met this girl at an upscale party, we chatted innocently quite a while and after we left the party i remember saying how down to earth she was for someone that looked like a beauty queen. the next morning i open the newspaper to see her picture and it turned out that she was Miss Canada at the time. as i'm reading this in shock my phone rings with my friend on the line saying... no way! ok its not charlie manson but i prefer my encounter to his!
2:01 - 2:05 Bryan's impression of Charles "going with the movement of the horse" was creepy. His eyes, mainly.
Excellent job communicating Charles' appearance.
Bryan Cranston is not lying, this dude is like one of the nicest honest guys.
Dark, Dead Eyes. What a great description.
I noticed that comment also. A couple of times in my life I've seen people who had eyes like that. One of them was on TV, a man who had killed a couple of other men in a bar fight and was then on death row. The other was a roommate I had in college for less than a semester. Roommate was an elaborate practical joker and what I would call a sadist. I moved out and roommate had two more roommates before the semester ended. That was a little over 40 years ago and I still say that if I found out my former roommate had been arrested for killing people over a period of time I wouldn't be surprised.
I think someone in ‘Jaws’ said that about the shark.
@@andrewbrendan1579 I've met my share of people with dead eyes, usually green or blue, they all fit the bill for a sociopath, very outgoing, lots of stories and always trying to impress and more than happy to give you a hand to show what good boys they were
@@deltoroperdedor3166 I've seen eyes like that on a politician or three... The ones who get busted for stuff like sexual assault, or a hit-and-run, usually.
@@neuralmute not that surprising, they don't usually last long because they need to push it
The singer Meatloaf recounted how one time he picked up a hitchhiker and gave a ride to Denis Wilson's (of the Beach Boys) house but that the hitchhiker spooked him out and he left the hitchhiker quickly. Then one year later he saw on the news that they captured the murderers of the Tate and LaBianca murders and it turned out to be the hitchhiker Charles Manson.
@Hard Dik yeah I met him in Scotland in 67' and I fucked all his girls! I was only 2 yrs old but with Charlie working that witchy magic hell anything was possible weoooooooooooooo
@Hard Dik meatloaf would have been in the same music circle as Charles manson tho. . . Same as the Mamas and the papas. Not that farfetched when you look at the scene in the 60-70s
A lot of people don't realize just how small the hollywood area is.
Manson wasn't even present at the murders, dumbass. And why are you telling someone else's "story"??
bullshit.
I had a friend who knew Charlie when he was young and lived in McMechan. She said at that time he was a good boy, but you can tell why he became how he was.
I had a medical issue and almost died when I came to at the hospital Manson's death was on TV and I thought to myself just my luck I was almost in line at the pearly gates with manson would have liked to have heard what St Peter said
That racist piece of shit wouldn’t have even got a sight at those gates mate.
Hey, Manson would have made you look good! ;)
The Lord might have said ,
"Only One of you is getting into Heaven".
And Crazy Charlie would have turned to you and said ,
"Well it sucks to be you" !
Lol
Ralph C thank you. I really needed a good laugh this morning. ❤️
You sound crazier than Manson
Great story! Was always a Cranston fan but breaking bad elevated him at an entirely new level! Thanks for the video
He’s right! Manson thought the house was owned by a record producer that dissed him, but he moved.
Which made no sense because he knew Terry Melcher moved - he had dropped by there looking for Terry weeks or even months beforehand and he was told Terry no longer lived there.
Wow what an amazing story. I didn’t know Bryan grew up in LA. That’s so fascinating. I wonder how he got into acting. His face is so animated when he recalls events. Most people kind of half do impressions of events, not him lol.
Dennis Wilson was great. Watch him in "Two-lane Blacktop." He didn't have to act. He was just himself.
@@rosselliswilkinson Yes, he was excellent.
Dennis Wilson never "tried to get the Beach Boys to "join the Manson group." Yes, he invited Mike Love and Bruce Johnston over to dinner once while the Manson Family was staying at his house, and he convinced the Beach Boys to record a song that Charles Manson had written and that Dennis had rewritten, but that's it. Dennis never asked the Manson family to move into his house. They just showed up one day when Dennis wasn't home, after he had picked up two female family members who were hitchhiking. Living with the family got so bad that after a few months Dennis moved out and stopped paying the rent, which forced the landlord to evict them. They threatened his family and trashed his house and his Ferrari after he paid over $100,000 in medical bills for them. Dennis wanted nothing to do with them long before the Tate LaBianca murders happened.
I guess he shouldn't have stole his music
@@BobSacamano666 From what I've read, Manson's beef with Dennis was because Dennis rewrote some of the lyrics and changed the title, and not because of any perceived theft of the song.
No, the relationship was much closer and longer lasting than that. Read Ed Sanders' "The Family", it goes into it in great detail
Manson’s group were also the people that were giving him his tour on horseback. Lol. The manson family worked as tour guides for the person who was letting them live on the ranch. Its not scary because he came in contact with Manson, its scary because everyone there would’ve helped bury his ass 😂.
anyone read 'manson in his own words'? cos theres a story he tells where he went walking out into the desert with only a canteen of cold coffee, walked too far out and ended up exhausted and almost died on his way back. he'd been gone for like a day or two, this sounds like it could have been him on his way back at the end of that journey. wild
Bryan Cranston is like my American father. I’m from U.K. and really really loved this dudes work. Top ✊
@OutWestRedDirt grim hustle is new to me but the other two I know of, yet to actually read their works more watch on UA-cam but yeah i gotta get my reading up.
I met him in H.O.J.J.,when he was in high power awaiting trial and I was a trustee .It freaked me out ! I brought the food to his block 1350.Nobody told me that this was where they kept high profile inmates.
Lois is like, "Sure, Hal."
I read that in her voice
Honey!? Kids, you believe me right?!
Such a good show
Skyler is like, "Someone needs to protect this family from the man who protects this family."
Thanks to Tarantino i could just picture the whole story in my mind :)
yeah, had the spawn ranch in it, right?
Really? cause he appeared like 5 seconds in the movie. Completely wasted
@@luisalonso959 he wasnt the main focus in this one, the victims were
That's the magic of cinema
@@erazet3084 yeah, even had Tex giving horseback tours.
One day in 1969, The Beach Boy’s drummer told Charles that he would talk to his friend, legendary music producer Terry Melcher, about Charlie’s music. So they went to a party at Terry Melcher’s house one night up in Laurel Canyon. After some light conversation, Terry decided that his friend Dennis’ new friend wasn’t as talented and promising as Dennis had described, in fact he was kinda weird. Then very casually, he brushed Charlie off and avoided him for the rest of the evening. But Charles felt disrespected. He just wasn’t willing to accept “no” for an answer! A few nights later, he sent some members of his “family” to pay Mr. Melcher a visit and to confront him about his big mistake disrespecting Charlie that way. The problem was that Terry Melcher wasn’t home.....in fact, he was away for a few weeks. And unbeknownst to Charlie he had invited his friends to come stay at his place over the summer. That night his friends were home relaxing and enjoying glasses of wine when they heard the doorbell ring.
That's not how it went down exactly. Terry Melcher had showed considerable interest in Charlie's music, even visiting him at the ranch, before finally blowing him off. And he had moved from the Cielo Drive property months before the murders -- the house was being leased by Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate. Most observers find it difficult to believe that Charlie wouldn't have know that Melcher had moved on, but there's no consensus.
My sister, April, used to care for his horses in Topanga Canyon. She nearly got mixed up with him, said he was very charming. She was worried that she was going to get subpoenaed.
"I am the one who KNOCKS!"
"Far out, man, can I put that in one of my tunes?"
Steve McQueen was invited to the dinner at Sharon Tate’s that night and he carried a gun. Sad he didn’t make it.
Steve would have kicked all of those hippy asses.
Actually Dan, The Beach Boys put one of Manson's songs on the album 20/20. Thank you.
The Beach Boys never gave Mason song writing credit. When Charlie heard the song he was not happy.
I had a very similar encounter with Jeff Dahmer, only we actually had a conversation (sort of) as we were about the same age. I know exactly how Bryan felt when he saw the news.
Can I hear the story
Similar in the sense that he came across as creepy as Bryan's experience?
🤔
Charles Manson, Jeff Dahmer, and all the rest of the role cast media boogeymen, are all actors in a serial killer hoax marathon.
@@danielliberty5945 I can't tell if you're serious
I'm not trying to plug Netflix but If you're into Manson, watch MindHunter. The actor playing Manson is eerily good, in fact other actors doing Kemper and Berkowitz were the best imitators I've ever seen.
“That must be Charlie.”
We had a friend at about 13-14 who we called Crazy Ronnie. I won't describe how he got the name, but suffice it to say, after that event my best friend says, "Yeah, I don't think we should hang out with that guy anymore." To which I agreed.
Dennis Wilson roughed Charlie up when he threatened to hurt his son because the lyrics were changed in "Never Learn How Not to Love" which was actually titled "Cease to Exist".
No he didn’t. Give me a citation.
@@garypedigogaeu5787 do your own homework bitch.
I went to HS in the SFV 1971-73. A girl that I knew who was older than me went to Chatsworth HS. Just a couple of miles from the Spahn ranch. In the late 60's they use to go buy weed from all the hippies there. Charlie was known as Good Grass Charlie. She said there were at least 15-20 girls/women there. They all dressed like slobs and were dirty. The guys all looked insane. They use to go the Ralphs on Topanga Cyn and dumpster dive for food all the time. I'm sure a lot of teenagers in the West Valley at one time came across that group.
To any murderinos: wasn’t there an email talking about someone’s grandma stopping her from going to a horse ranch because her grandma had bad vibes from a man on the hill that turned out to be Charles Manson?
i like how a youtube video finally starts out with the title's topic
I honestly don't know how true it is, and I only have the word of my dad on this, but apparently my dad knew Sharron Tate, as he lived somewhere near her when they were younger. It tore him up when it happened. Again, this is just what my dad told me. And it was really out of the blue too, because I remember the first time he said anything about it, it wasn't like he was bragging or anything. I was watching something on TV about the murders, and he just got *really* uncomfortable and asked me very quietly to turn the channel. It being sort of weird, and me being a curious teenager I asked him. "why?". So he told me. And that was that. He never brought it up again. So I want to believe it, and thinking back on it now, I think my dad really liked her when they were younger, and she was "the one that got away" so to speak. They went their separate ways, she got dumb famous, and my dad did pretty well playing music professionally. And then she was murdered. Like I said, really tore him up.
I've got a feeling your dad was in on her murder. Especially after you mention him being a musician!!!! I bet he got tangled up with Manson through music and ended up on the murder trip. Bet he was jealous because she was pregnant with another man's baby!!! So he killed her!
@@michaelvoorhees5978 lmao okay
@@HYDN150 lol hey it sounds good and would make a nice twist to all the years of the Manson story. Lol can you imagine the news stories? The whole Manson gang was wrongly jailed all these years and were not involved!!!! Lol
What music did your dad play?
@@WhiteCamry He played a variety of stuff. Had a few of his own bands that did pretty well in the local scene back in the day, and got lucky enough to tour the west coast with some of the bigger names at the time. He mostly played country/classic rock. 50s and 60s stuff.
Thank you for sharing with us!
Charlie didn't want the Beach Boys to join his group. He wanted Dennis to get their producer (Terry Melcher) to sign him to a recording contract.
wcassady correct. And the house where Sharon and Roman Polanski lived has been Terry Melcher’s. So the theory is that Manson chose that house because Terry Melcher turned him down but he hadn’t realized Melcher had moved.
@@MarySammons10 And they've said since then that the theory was debunked but I'm not sure I believe that. It's too coincidental. Unless Charlie picked it because he was already familiar with it. But with how violent the crime was I think there was a connection
wcassady yeah and he didn’t have a connection to Tate or Polanski that I’ve ever heard. I think the connection is legit too.
Steve McQueen with his 6 shooter could have stopped these killers . There was another one outside that killed an onlooker also .
Turns out it was a Vietnam vet flash-backing "CHARLIE'S ON THE HILL!!" ...the guy retrieved on horseback was just another hippie that got lost on a 'lude trip, but the prolonged exposure to blue ice has enhanced his memory.
it was just Bob Dylan writing lyrics "Charlies on the hill, Charlies in the bushes..."
Everyone who ever tells their stories of meeting or seeing Manson all of their stories are very similar. That was one evil creepy monster.
Since we're all sharing, as a kid I was best friends with my next-door neighbor my same age. we'd hang out all the time and do stuff, and at one point, I met his cousin, but didn't think much of him (seemed like he was destined for trouble). Some years later they all got into drugs, and I walked away from them. A few years after that, I heard on the news that my best friend had been arrested for murdering his cousin over some drug deal gone wrong. Not too many degrees of freedom between us and life going severely sideways, a mix of luck and the choices we make...
Oh yeah! Now I remember the scene he’s referring to from Once upon a time in Hollywood in which Bryan Cranston visits Spawn ranch & ends up fighting hippies on horseback.
Everyone should check out Tom O'Neill's 2019 book, _Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties._ The real story of Charles Manson is even crazier than most people realize.
@@helpfulcommenter - Dismissing ideas without even examining evidence is for the weak-minded, and saying that conspiracy theories could never be true is lazy, sloppy, and historically inaccurate.
@@helpfulcommenter - Yes, it's funny how the corporate media has had so much contempt for "tinfoil-hat conspiracies," only to turn around & promote their own (like "Russiagate," for which they never had the evidence that they alleged).
But as you said, that was intended to distract & control people---just they do when they deny or ignore other, real conspiracies. It's all about maintaining power & control for them.
So to react to corporate lies by going back to ignoring & automatically dismissing all "conspiracy theories" is still playing into the hands of those manipulative powers that be and ignoring what they want you to ignore.
Automatically dismissing those ideas is just as sloppy as automatically believing them---it all comes down to evidence, facts, and logic. O'Neill's book _Chaos_ has plenty of those things---and besides, the events took place back in the '60s & '70s, and the book isn't being constantly promoted by corporate media.
Whenever corporate news makes a coordinated effort to push a certain story, being suspicious is probably justified---but that's not the case with a book like O'Neill's _Chaos._
@@helpfulcommenter - So conspiracy theories are stupid & crazy , unless it's the corporate news & Democrats pushing them? Did you say that "conspiracies are for the weak-minded" when Rachel Maddow started pushing them, or were you cool with _those_ conspiracy theories since they were used to bash the political team you root against?
And hey, criticize Republicans all you want (they certainly deserve it), but if you think it's only _one_ political party who spins, lies, and manipulates, then you're already pretty brainwashed, and probably just the other side of the same coin that you're criticizing.
@@ModernPlague Well said, well argued, well articulated, etc. The argument ending with "you're muted" is hilarious also.
Dark, dead eyes. Like a doll's eyes.
What is "Jaws", Alex?
Until he bites ya...
Just like Hillary
@@teresa67factoid95 You mean DRUMPF.
@@titusmccarthy
No idea what you are trying to spell, but your caps lock is stuck on again.
Thank God our beloved president Donald john Trump is running unopposed and we are guaranteed another term in November.
That’s the moment Charles Manson became Heisenberg
That's exactly how I felt when they arrested Eileen Wournos. I knew her years before she started killing people and she was as crazy as a sprayed roach back then.
This was the exact moment Bryan Cranston became Heisenberg
I’m sure that small incident was as powerful as he said. Manson certainly was an unforgettable figure. I was scared of him just seeing him on TV in NY. IMAGINE passing that close to him and hearing what had happened. Scary for sure.
Charlie’s on the hill!!! Get the toilet paper!!! Get the mother f ing TOILET paper!!!!!!!!!
lol George...that made me laugh man...lmao
Hes such a great story teller
what a great story teller...
When I was a kid we used to go for a swim in a nearby lake. We hung out at that lake very often in summer, but then one day we stopped and never went there again. The reason has nothing to do with Charles Manson. I never met him and neither did my friends. Sorry to disappoint you. Thank you for reading my comment.
I love Brian Cranston !!!
No way that Walter White met Charles Manson, that must’ve been one crazy cut crossover episode😦
I thought he was going to say "Charles Barkley" the basketball poster was misleading haha
Yelling "Charlie's on the hill" in 1969 would be very traumatic for a few of my brothers. Semper fi
My dad had Manson followers at his parties in the 60s/70s
I wonder if Bryan thought about Charles Manson while playing Walter White
Neil Young, who owned his famous ranch and spread in the canyon country, was a neighbor of CM and said he would occasionally see him and that CM obviously couldn't take rejection, as he was turned down by record companies who did not sign him or offer a record deal.
Manson was beaten and molested as a child, constantly. That's how he turned out like he was............
Neil did say Manson wrote some good songs.
Neil Young was a lot more familiar with Charles than you make it sound. They knew each other well and spent a lot of time together, You also left out the part that explains Young worked more himself on getting Manson a record deal than Manson himself did. Young was pitching Charles to Moe Epstein for months and months. Young wanted Manson to get a deal more than Manson ever did. Neil wanted to make money off of Charles.
Surprised. This year I learned Cranston was on the Seinfeld show. Over the years now and then I wondered who that actor was and if he had much success. Good for him. He did the job even back then.
Just came here to say Brian Cranston's autobiography is amazing! Go read it.
BTK was arrested mere miles from my grandparents house and I shudder to think that I likely shopped at the same Walmart as him at the same time as him while visiting my grandparents
I remember being at a stable in the Kern River bottom on the SE corner of Manor Dr and Roberts Ln. in Bakersfield and seeing a van pull up and a couple of guys got out and they were looking for someone. I distinctly remember two things about one of them, his black eyes and hair parted on the side at a time when most of us parted it down the middle. I was 14 at the time and it was early 1969. I say early because we were still wearing jackets. Sitting on the floor at my parents house watching the new I remember seeing that individual in handcuffs and a cold chill ran right through me that i will never forget. I knew it was the same guy. Evidently, they had come from the desert where they hole up at the Barker Ranch in Inyo Co. to look for whomever it was. Very scary.
Not only that but the the Labiancas had just got back from Lake Isabella which is an hour away from bakersfield and Death Valley. There are tons of ranches around Lake Isabella which is where I’m from they could’ve been at anyone of them. Matter affect one of my moms friends nieces was a follower of Manson she still
has an x on her forehead
@@necromagus9088 bull
My great aunt's son was a guard at San Quentin for many years, but I've always been afraid to ask him if he met Manson.
Why would you be afraid to do that? I don't follow.
Every hippy looked like manson in 68
The ranch is out in the Chatsworth area, down the Santa Susana Pass Road. I live just a few miles away in Woodland Hills. Val Kilmer said he used to live out there with his family when he was a kid, and go to the ranch to ride as well when Charlie was out there.
Should read Chaos by Tom O'Neill.
MK Ultra!
Rogan had him on the podcast couple weeks ago. Fucking crazy
@GMoorefan115 Have you read it? I’m gonna bet not. It more serves to bullshit narrative we were led to believe. The Helter Skelter motive. And raises a lot of questions by poking holes in the official story. O’Neill himself goes to great pains to say a lot of what he discovered will probably never be completely confirmed and is hesitant to go too much further with pure speculation. I’m not into conspiracies, but I know bullshit stories put forth by authority and/or wealth and power are not rare. What would you recommend I read? The New York Times?
@@zeekot4064 Rogan is an IDIOT.
Titus McCarthy lol okay
He also has a role in the origin story of “The Room”
Josh Sirchio What do you mean?
Whoa hold up what
In the movie "The Disaster Artist," Greg Sestero has a chance encounter with Bryan Cranston, who I believe invites him to play a part on "Malcolm in the Middle" while he's filming "The Room." Tommy forces Greg to pass on that opportunity in order to film his movie. I looked into it again and it turns out it maybe didnt happen in real life? But I read Greg's book (also called "The Disaster Artist," on which the movie of the same name was based), and I'm pretty sure it's in there, too.
@@jms1263 OOOOHH bro I thought you meant Charles Manson
psychobilly420 i thought that too!
I went to the Manson Murder anniversary party (24 years later) at the old Tate house. Trent Reznor was renting the place and threw a party for the bands Chemlab and Skrew. The house is no longer there, a new one was built on that site.
They had a murder anniversary party? Spill more details
@@VividFilmProductions Well, not really....there were no other guests in the house besides the bands and crew. Maybe I shouldn't use the word "party". Flood and I were the only ones smoking pot! There wasn't any loud music or wild women!
@@1santos1 did you know at the time it was the tate murder house?
@@VividFilmProductions Yes! Trent and Flood were at the Roxy that night to watch Chemlab and Skrew. Since Nine Inch Nails and Chemlab toured together, they were close friends, so he invited all of us back to his place. I was told we were going to a party at the Tate house after the show and FREAKED OUT. I had made a Manson "fanzine" about a year before and was fasinated by the Helter Skelter murders. The original call box and gate were still there too. I never forget the front door! We got the house tour with a hard copy of the book to guide us to all the exact murder spots. It was quite overwhelming to say the least.
@@1santos1 that really is cool! Such a shame it was torn down. Reznor said he had to leave cause the house started to weigh on him and Sharon tates sister visited once and accused him of exploiting her death. He felt guilty and left. Did you feel any weird vibes or was it pretty normal?
TK Kirkland was riding with Charles Manson that day.
0vermars He’s close man.....he’s reeeeaal close
I met one of Charlie's followers while working at the waffle House, he was the cook. That was about 12 years ago and I think he's working there still. George used to try to convince me that Charlie was a great guy and had nothing to do with any of the s*** that went down. I ended up telling him right before I quit that he was as unhinged as Manson was.
did Charlie ever actually murder anyone himself? the court records show no.
@@BobSacamano666 I don't believe they ever pinned any actual murder directly by his hands on him. What he was guilty of was leading a whole cult of people into doing his killing for him, typical coward move!
That's not something you could be charged with today. If someone tells you to jump off a bridge, that's your own fault for doing it.
@@BobSacamano666 oh no my dear you are wrong, it's called aiding and abetting if you initiate somebody else to murder somebody else. Even in suicide attempts people are now being prosecuted for manslaughter. If somebody on the internet tells you to go kill yourself and you do if they can track down the person that initiated the bullying that person is charged with manslaughter. In most states it's a minimum 3-year prison sentence. In some states you can draw a life off of it!
Manslaughter is not murder and the penalties are much different.
This interview was like watching the Dad on Malcom in the middle and Heisenberg intertwined lol 😆
Alex Chilton of Big Star and The Box Tops had an encounter with Charlie at Dennis Wilsons house.
I encountered Charles Manson in the summer on 1967 in San Francisco. He was panhandling on Haight street. A friend of mine who lived in the Haight - Asbury told me to check out this long haired panhandler. He said many people were following him as a kind of shaman. I hung around for about 10 minutes to catch Manson's act. I said to my friend this guy's a psycho and an illiterate and dangerous and that he is going to destroy any thing that is good about the hippies. My friend and I are now 76 years old. We still watch the parking meters. We still don't follow leaders.
@fifty moore If you indoctrinate a group of gullible numbskulls, and order them to go and kill people, then you bear responsibility too. It's like murder for hire. The person with the money may not have fired the gun, but they're still in prison if convicted.
Wow, amazing story, well told. I can totally imagine that.
Yes mind blowing that a classically trained, award winning actor can impress a dimwitted ignorant fan boy while performing his self created urban fiction.
Man I only disliked you because of being a bald faced liar and despite all your screen and media time you are still so desperate for attention that you would do something so embarrassing and dishonest. Now I don't like you even more because your most dedicated fans are giving clear signs of epic stupidity and fucktardery, but hey if there Hollywood hero has no truth or scruples why would his dullard followers? They wanna be like you ya lyin' Hollywood disappointment, either you were doin real meth on Breakin' Bad or your assuming anyone that would bother to listen to you are meth heads, but naa bro, you possibly went hack riding at Spahn, which I tend to doubt now that you told three lies so easy to discredit and prove false, but if you did and can create provide any reasonable substantiation of being there ever, which even that would take me less than twenty minutes of easy questions to ascertain if you had actually been there, and I sincerely hope at least that isn't a lie naa best case scenario here is when you were a little kid you went hack riding and as years passed by, as story tellers do, you embellished and took some creative liberties, it's not in a general sense some horrible shit, but being you as I mentioned get more than your share of attention and admiration and set against something that a majority are so hopelessly uneducated about, truth not myth, and the shit connected to it all, dude if you knowingly just premeditated a work here, it's fucking pretty vile man. I hope that isn't the case. But you absolutely didn't see Charlie, or any details you colored the story with concerning him sorry man
@@HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM ?? You need to get out more.
Billy Gram at this point just write a book about it, you’re already halfway done
@@Guardsgotgame11 Yea um, actually I am a writer and get paid for it when I'm not making some dullard hurt is head reading some sentences. I know you haven't read jack shit that's for sure oh inconsequential, faceless, witless, dick-less sperg.
Billy Gram lmao bro no one is reading that shit. You should write about your feelings , it’s bad to keep them bottled inside.
Bryan definitely should be in a Tarantino film
I was on a Merchant Marine ship going to Samoa when the news of the killings came over the radio, I had long hair and was eighteen years old. I got some real bad vibes from the crew so I got a haircut right away. Everybody was paranoid. I hate Charlie for what he did and I never could understand weak minded sheep.
says someone who cut their hair out of paranoia.
100% factual and I believe him. 1000's of people in the LA area had experiences or contact with Manson and the girls in various degress and thought nothing of it until the murders. Spahn ranch was a well-known horseback riding stable, and George Spahn got his income in the middle to late 60's from horseback riding. The family use to conduct those rides in exchange to stay at the ranch. Spahn ranch was located right in the greater Los Angeles County and Bryan was born and raised in LA. and he could have easily been at Spahn several times.
Imagine if they had social media back un the day. Charlie would be a mega star
IDK, if social media had been around then with the 24 hour news cycle the story might have disappeared after a week or so.
@@dennydeckerful It's a tough call on this one because of who the victims were, either way the story would've stayed around, just like it has
We do have Jared Leto for that now.
@@mamacoloco7285 dude is fucking lame.
@@lizardking7772 I mean, he's a creepy apparent sexual predator who has his own cult of even greater magnetude than Manson could ever dream of.
Charlie on the hill was referring to Vietnam
*My quarantine watch for the day.*
The almost exact thing happened to me when I saw Kathy Griffin.
She’s just as racist and crazy that’s for sure.
@@lukenotskywalker2957 Way to step on the punchline.
I can't stop laughing!😂
Luke Not Skywalker “wACisT bOo hoO”
It was like "insane" LOL Bryan Cranston