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  • Special thanks to our sponsor Surfshark VPN at surfshark.deals/VINYL - enter promo code VINYL for 83% off and 3 extra months for free! | This is the story of The Lost Beach Boys / Charles Manson album recorded in 1968 and forever locked in a vault somewhere. #BeachBoys #musichistory #vinylrewind
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:44 Meeting The Beach Boys
    04:25 Collaborating With Manson
    08:35 Separate Ways
    11:45 The Aftermath

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  • @legend4646
    @legend4646 Рік тому +124

    The Beach Boys has such an incredibly odd history, love hearing new bits of it all the time. It's like every time you find something super weird, there's something even weirder down the road.

    • @mj.l
      @mj.l Рік тому +4

      that’s acid for ya

    • @tiediegymnasts920
      @tiediegymnasts920 Рік тому

      Years ago I read the Dennis Wilson biography it was crazy

    • @alphalax7747
      @alphalax7747 Рік тому +1

      Theres always a bigger fish

  • @dawson8364
    @dawson8364 Рік тому +26

    "Charles holds a hunting knife to Dennis' throat..." 9:39
    10 seconds later.
    "Charles was difficult to work with."

  • @VolvagiasBlaze
    @VolvagiasBlaze 7 місяців тому +7

    In a story that included Charles Manson, somehow Mike Love is still a more despised figure in the band's history.

  • @jackmarchant06
    @jackmarchant06 Рік тому +119

    Great video, it’s a shame we lost Dennis that young, he really got better and better as a songwriter as the years went on. His solo album Pacific Ocean Blue is great!

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito Рік тому

      He was a scumbag though, having orgies and hanging out with people that would become murderers. Open your mind and listen to something worthwhile for a change. It doesn't always have to be rock, rap, pop, etc. Try some classical music for a change and grow up.

    • @jackmarchant06
      @jackmarchant06 Рік тому +2

      @@alukuhito I mean yeah he wasn’t the best person, he would even go on to marry Mike Love’s illegitimate daughter around the end of his life. He really ruined his life with drugs and alcohol. But I don’t really see the need to assume what music I listen to, that just kinda came out of nowhere.

    • @mj.l
      @mj.l Рік тому

      @@jackmarchant06mike love - now there’s a horrible fucking person

    • @brettweary8491
      @brettweary8491 Рік тому +1

      And Caribou

    • @vincevirtua
      @vincevirtua 8 місяців тому

      Sadly after Pacific Ocean Blue he got worse and worse.

  • @sunshinecoolwater9528
    @sunshinecoolwater9528 Рік тому +78

    Coming from a hardcore Beach Boys fan, "Never Learn Not To Love" is one of the best produced tracks from 20/20.

    • @brimmy9756
      @brimmy9756 Рік тому +2

      Hell yea!

    • @lowenbad
      @lowenbad Рік тому +6

      How can you say that when “Cabinessence” is on that album? 🤓

    • @Rambo69710
      @Rambo69710 Рік тому +3

      Charlie wrote that song and they stole it from him that's why the family went looking for Melcher

    • @tedwojtasik8781
      @tedwojtasik8781 Рік тому +1

      Fact is, Charlie was an extremely talented songwriter and a decent singer / acoustic guitar player. I have that Manson album and outside of production which sucks, the songs are all really, really good. In fact I would argue most of Neal Young's Harvest album was very heavily influenced by Manson.

    • @jlee2383
      @jlee2383 Рік тому +3

      ⁠@@Rambo69710 they didn’t steal it. Dennis paid Manson over $100k for the song, along with months of free rent, food, and medical bills to the leeches they called a “family”. That’s more than most unknown songwriters could ever dream of getting. I’ll never understand why so many people immediately take the side of a psychopath who orchestrated the murder of multiple innocent people.

  • @FenderBassMustang
    @FenderBassMustang 10 місяців тому +8

    Terry Melcher was once quoted as saying that Charles Manson was the second most difficult person he had ever worked with in the music business. He said the most difficult was David Crosby.

  • @Turtl289
    @Turtl289 Рік тому +30

    Years ago when i was working at a record store a used copy of LIE came in. Bought it immediately for the novelty of it. A few actual catchy songs, some awful songs and a few that are just kinda creepy.

  • @braydencoversbeatles4029
    @braydencoversbeatles4029 Рік тому +33

    Damn. The largest extent of the story I’ve always heard was that they met, recorded some music, and then lost touch a year or 2 before the murders. I had no idea about all the other stuff. That’s so interesting.

    • @Blend42
      @Blend42 Рік тому

      I don't think that what is presented here takes into account all sources on the history. Stephen Desper (whos knife story was included here) has said he recorded a bunch of demos with Charlie with no Beach Boys present. Dennis certainly had a friendship and I think Mike went to one of orgies according to Mike but Charlie was definitely Dennis's thing,

    • @juliebryne2903
      @juliebryne2903 Рік тому +1

      I knew about them moving into dennis's house and he couldnt get rid of them and they did want to murder terry melcher!

  • @georgeedward1226
    @georgeedward1226 Рік тому +45

    Dennis Wilson's lack of judgement in choosing friends and house guests was mind-boggling bad to say the least.
    I read something somebody had written on Jim Morrison's grave in Paris many years ago "Never trust a hippie" which is still good advice.

    • @thirdhandlv4231
      @thirdhandlv4231 Рік тому +8

      It was a different time, people tended to be way more free to visitors and what not, The Tate murders kinda killed the whole movement.

    • @jonnuanez7183
      @jonnuanez7183 Рік тому +1

      ​@@thirdhandlv4231 The murders and the Altamont incident pretty much killed it off. Woodstock was the sendoff.

    • @moonytheloony6516
      @moonytheloony6516 Рік тому +4

      I don't think the idea of "never trusting a hippie" is good advice because being a hippie had nothing to do with the murders.
      The people who committed those murders were clearly mentally ill people who happened to be hippies.
      The hippie culture didn't commit the crime...a handful of deeply disturbed people in a cult-like environment did.
      Big difference.
      That's like saying guns kill so don't trust them. It's never the gun, it's the disturbed people behind the gun that kill.
      There were Vietnam Veterans who returned from the war and became hippies because of their experiences and outrage of what they experienced over there, I knew a few, should we not trust them as well?
      Exactly. There's more to people beneath the surface. Hippie is just a title and you could interview 1,000 former hippies and get different perspectives as to what being a hippie means to each one of them.
      This was more of a cult thing given Manson's immense ability to influence people around him. In that way he shares the stage with Jim Jones and David Koresh.
      As for Jim Morrison the best advice he needed was not to trust himself because of his escalating drug and alcohol abuse which killed him at 27.
      The lesson learned here is quite simple.
      Never trust anyone who encourages you not to critically think.
      That's the better advice because it actually works.

    • @moonytheloony6516
      @moonytheloony6516 Рік тому +2

      @@jonnuanez7183
      Possibly, but it's debatable.
      Many historians will point to Kent State as the single biggest incident that killed the hippie culture.

    • @moonytheloony6516
      @moonytheloony6516 Рік тому

      @@thirdhandlv4231
      It had a negative impact, though very memorable, it was a bit limited because the Manson family was more of a cult-like community under the direct influence of a single central character.
      That is why I don't agree that it killed the culture. It generally takes a series of events or a more profound event to kill such momentum.
      The previous month was Woodstock, so the momentum from that event would require something more impactful, and sadly that's exactly what took place in 1970.
      That would be Kent State University.
      More & more historians will point to THAT particular incident as the one single event that impacted the culture the most.
      A lot of people wrote off the Manson family murders, though very disturbing, as something that would happen in Hollywood sooner or later given it's rich history of scandal, and suicide & murder.
      It's sadly kinda of a thing when you examine the entire history.
      To be fully holistic about what eroded the culture it's best to interview as many former hippies as you can and get different perspectives.
      I've heard it all from the assassinations of MLK & RFK being the beginning of it to the election Nixon, Manson, Kent State, Watergate, and the Vietnam War carrying on till 1975 as culprits. A few even blamed Evel Knievel for some reason.
      Kent State though, is the one topic that I found to be mentioned the most.
      In my opinion it's probably bookended with the two assassinations of '68 and Kent State in '70. The filler in-between is likely a bunch of things including Manson.

  • @susanaltman5134
    @susanaltman5134 Рік тому +5

    I knew that Never Learn Not to Love was written by Manson. I also had heard about the "family" living off of Dennis. Including the expensive treatment for STDs. What is new to me is that a whole album of material was recorded by Manson in Brian's studio.

  • @Dachsjager
    @Dachsjager 11 місяців тому +3

    Dennis will always be the real Beach Boy

  • @adamhunt4462
    @adamhunt4462 Рік тому +5

    Now that would be a crazy RSD title.

  • @KristoferKatatonic
    @KristoferKatatonic Рік тому +18

    Your content is always top shelf stuff but lately it's been especially spot on. Thank you for the work you put into this channel and each video. Keep spinning.

  • @nicktamer4969
    @nicktamer4969 9 місяців тому +4

    What if Phil Spector produced Charles Manson ? It would have been kind of funny seeing them threatening eachother all day long, one with a gun, the other one with a knife.

  • @s.t.e.r.e.o.
    @s.t.e.r.e.o. Рік тому +2

    Awsome Two Lane Black Top photo one of my favorite movies

  • @ChorusArtists
    @ChorusArtists Рік тому +3

    Brilliant deep dive on this! Love your work.

  • @Giggens
    @Giggens Рік тому +3

    Well done video man, very well researched. Those tapes will neverrrrrrrr come out!

  • @ntv440
    @ntv440 3 місяці тому

    I’m so glad i found this channel! Love every video

  • @leddygee1896
    @leddygee1896 Рік тому

    Nice... Looking forward to this!

  • @chicklets4ever51
    @chicklets4ever51 Рік тому +1

    Good mini-doc. I already knew most of the circumstantial narrative, but not about the lost tracks. Of course they should be released.

  • @EddwardScissorhands
    @EddwardScissorhands Рік тому +1

    This was excellent! Always wondered about the details so thank u good sir and cheers! 🍹🍹

  • @1ring2rule3pigs
    @1ring2rule3pigs Рік тому +3

    Just listened to the 1st 2 songs from Manson's album for the first time...they were like live recordings in a bedroom. But if they had proper production, they'd actually be really good. I can see the potential. Like Donovan mixed with Dylan. Damn, now I REALLY want to hear that master 8-track

  • @ThatPlasticOne
    @ThatPlasticOne Рік тому +6

    I think there was another Manson prison album recorded that was going to be produced by Henry Rollins that never got released

  • @lanacampbell-moore6686
    @lanacampbell-moore6686 Рік тому

    Thanks V.R.🖤

  • @ministerofdarkness
    @ministerofdarkness Рік тому +14

    Dennis Wilson's solo album " Pacific Ocean Blue " is a Masterpiece!! PLAY LOUD!

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito Рік тому +1

      No thanks.

    • @Blend42
      @Blend42 Рік тому

      It's an ok album maybe slightly better than the Beach Boys post 1978 work.

    • @jlee2383
      @jlee2383 Рік тому +1

      It is indeed an awesome album. People should give it a chance, they might be surprised

  • @aeneas237
    @aeneas237 Рік тому

    This is the greatest thumbnail ever

  • @jasonleonard4000
    @jasonleonard4000 10 місяців тому +1

    I just found your channel, damn cool stuff! I love music minutia and you definitely deliver.
    Your style is quite sharp, mate!

  • @dumpwoodhere
    @dumpwoodhere Рік тому +1

    Also, superb video as ever!

  • @sidscifi
    @sidscifi Рік тому

    I'm sorry but that thumbnail made me bust out laughing heartily! Love it!

  • @intelligenceservices
    @intelligenceservices 4 місяці тому

    god yes, please release those tracks

  • @eastonwarner5399
    @eastonwarner5399 Рік тому

    I love the thumbnail!

  • @Cfolger
    @Cfolger Рік тому +1

    That thumbnail would make a hilarious shirt

  • @plasteredbastard
    @plasteredbastard Рік тому +2

    that cover photo is a riot. they've shown the house dennis lived in which manson and his following occupied for those few months in '68. gorgeous and picturesque. i think dennis was a lost soul trying to find something that would give him meaning. i also find it interesting mike love spotted manson for the fraud and pariah he was.

    • @neonfroot
      @neonfroot 8 місяців тому

      mike love is a square as is al jardine. they saw through him

  • @brockthehistorian5951
    @brockthehistorian5951 Рік тому +6

    I love that you added clips from the tv series, "The Beach Boys: An American Family".

  • @drrick8839
    @drrick8839 Рік тому +3

    Great story, most of which I’d never heard of. Very interesting and well researched!
    Also very interesting is your audio system. I’ve been design/building, restoring, repairing and collecting vacuum tube audio equipment since the time of the original Woodstock festival. Most is for home playback, some is for recording studios (primarily tube microphone preamps and electronics for analog tape machines).
    I see your amplifier uses push-pull EL34 output tubes but I can’t identify what brand it and your turntable are. What are they? Also, is that a moving coil phono cartridge step up transformer behind it? I build those as well. I also modify CD players to use tubes in the audio circuitry.
    I’m interested in knowing the manufacturer of your gear, it’s nice looking stuff.
    While I do listen to CD’s, I never stopped playing vinyl.
    Again, great video! I’ve subscribed and look forward your future work.
    Peace,
    DrRick

    • @drrick8839
      @drrick8839 Рік тому

      I got a “Thumbs Up”! Thank you!

  • @SolarasNaracott
    @SolarasNaracott Рік тому

    More music mysteries, please.

  • @khrissyboy69
    @khrissyboy69 Рік тому +1

    I think Dennis was too scared to speak his mind

  • @jimtykoliz
    @jimtykoliz Рік тому

    good reporting

  • @zarmindrow5831
    @zarmindrow5831 Рік тому +1

    LOL, that thumbnail. Manson in the middle.

  • @mrsticker2
    @mrsticker2 Рік тому +1

    Enough time has passed. Release the tapes!

  • @2dan4me97
    @2dan4me97 Рік тому +2

    2:51 bullshit, Mike Love never had that much of a hairline

  • @DaveTexas
    @DaveTexas 6 місяців тому

    Having been a Beach Boys fan since the 1970s, I’ve read all about this stuff. I’ve read the biographies, watched the TV movies, read all the news articles. Dennis wasn’t particularly intelligent and tended to lack judgment about pretty much everything. He was easily manipulated because he was very trusting. Being stoned all the time didn’t improve any of this. I love his music but he really needed guidance and supervision…which he never got.
    If the Manson tapes still exist, I’ll bet they never see the light of day. I’d also bet they’d turn out to be less good than people remember them to be. I certainly have no desire to hear them.

  • @andrewdude1
    @andrewdude1 11 місяців тому

    Really dig your channel

  • @michaelcarpenter2498
    @michaelcarpenter2498 Рік тому

    Never learn not to love is a goid song, but scary at the same time.

  • @martybaggenmusic
    @martybaggenmusic Рік тому +1

    The conflict between Dennis and Charlie was heightened when The Beach Boys recorded a tribute to the Manson Family called "California Ghouls"

  • @LSUOdyssey
    @LSUOdyssey 28 днів тому

    "WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF I KILLED YOU???" Charles asked Dennis with a knife to his throat.
    Dennis, stoned, replied, "....well....I would be dead, I suppose, Charlie...."

  • @waffenwrapp62
    @waffenwrapp62 7 місяців тому

    cool story bro ...

  • @macmiles278
    @macmiles278 Рік тому

    Dennis a very talented but destructive soul. R.I.P. DEAR DENNIS

  • @Danjoker.
    @Danjoker. Рік тому +1

    I never knew about this. I wonder if those songs will ever come out.

    • @danerd8978
      @danerd8978 Рік тому

      No Alan Boyd and Mark Linett avoid anything to do with Manson.

  • @tylerthompson1842
    @tylerthompson1842 Рік тому

    Great suit

  • @breadmantv1939
    @breadmantv1939 Рік тому

    So cool

  • @tedwojtasik8781
    @tedwojtasik8781 Рік тому +1

    Ponder this, imagine Manson joined the Beach Boys. Manson's true and most precious dreams would have been made reality, no one would have been killed, and we could have had a rejuvenated BB ready for the 70's. Yeah, Manson was a psychopath but there are a shitload of those running around not killing people because they are successful and learned to channel that psychopathy toward less murdery outlets and professions. In an alternate universe we are honoring Charles Manson as one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century, while lamenting over the Cobain Cult Killings of 1993.

  • @frederickfranchi6408
    @frederickfranchi6408 Рік тому

    You're funny, like the picture of your intro for your video 😃

  • @Onthejazz247
    @Onthejazz247 Рік тому +1

    I'd recommend chaos by Tom O'Neil, he gets a lot of the myths about Manson age debunks them. Particularly the idea that the murders were Beatles inspired.

    • @wanderer299a
      @wanderer299a 11 місяців тому +1

      Also Nikolas schreck.

  • @camso_0
    @camso_0 Рік тому +1

    ive been thinking about this for a week now you just get me mr rewind

  • @Mediocre00Rebel
    @Mediocre00Rebel Рік тому +1

    I love charles mansons music. I wish i could hear the tapes.

    • @Rambo69710
      @Rambo69710 Рік тому +1

      Me too I wish I could have had tea with Charlie ☝️

    • @kevin2400
      @kevin2400 10 місяців тому

      Charlie don't surf

  • @oviedosantiago
    @oviedosantiago Рік тому

    amazing dude, excellent video, from the production to the finish line. I only hope that your keep on doing this kind of videos for people like me that are intersted in the history of music. I only would like to know wich film are the scenes that you show. Congrats and salutationss.

  • @CherokeeBird
    @CherokeeBird Рік тому

    That thumbnail has me screaming 😅

  • @vonzipper7854
    @vonzipper7854 Рік тому

    Alot of this was new to me, excellent video.

  • @timjonesvideos
    @timjonesvideos Рік тому +9

    Brian never liked Manson, he found him spooky. Also, Mike Love once got a creepy phone call from Manson and challenged him to come over right now then for a man to man fight.. he never heard again.

    • @lukastaylor9544
      @lukastaylor9544 Рік тому +14

      Rare mike love W

    • @dp-bh5fh
      @dp-bh5fh Рік тому +6

      And that’s according to Mike love? Yeah Idk about that

    • @Fisch269
      @Fisch269 Рік тому +1

      I actually think that Susan Atkins used to babysit Mike Loves kids

    • @wanderer299a
      @wanderer299a 11 місяців тому

      Mike love is full of bs.

  • @matthewpaul6904
    @matthewpaul6904 Рік тому +4

    The thing about that thumbnail...
    Charlie Don't Surf

  • @garyshepherd9226
    @garyshepherd9226 Рік тому

    Interesting.

  • @lordjs9726
    @lordjs9726 10 місяців тому +1

    Those 'mysterious' recordings should be released at some point if possible.

  • @louistracy6964
    @louistracy6964 Рік тому +1

    They should have brought Cartman in to deal with the infestation.

  • @needsmetal
    @needsmetal Рік тому

    Uncle Acid did good cover of Manson's song Bring it on Home

  • @davidbanan.
    @davidbanan. Рік тому

    i just learned that Manson wrote a song for them and then i see this video in my recomendations

  • @stevenimeson902
    @stevenimeson902 Рік тому

    I’ve listen to the album lie and it’s one hell of a freaking experience. Definitely creepy.

    • @kevin2400
      @kevin2400 10 місяців тому

      The song garbage dump pops into my head every now and then... that song is kinda funny

  • @moonytheloony6516
    @moonytheloony6516 Рік тому +3

    It would be a massive migraine headache to release this material.
    Who would or should profit from it?
    The Beach Boys would look bad profiting from it because of who they recorded it with. No one wants to see any surviving members of the Manson family making money off of this, because the murder victims memory and their families should not be humiliated.
    There would be a lot of potential legalities as well regarding who is entitled to what. And what streaming platforms will touch this material willfully?
    This isn't about being woke as I'm sure some spacklehead will attempt to politicize this subject sooner or later.
    It's about what is the decent thing to do. It's about integrity.
    It's about legacy. It seems Brian Wilson is not only aware of this but motivated by it, hence he's not released the material for good reason.
    Even though these recordings took place prior to the murders it does not exonerate the Manson family to be given a pass to advance to Go and collect their $200.
    It's best, if these tapes still exist in 2023, that they remain where they are or destroy them. The music world has not been negatively impacted all these years with this material being locked away, and it won't be further impacted if they were destroyed either.
    The enduring tragedy of all of this is that Charles Manson was incapable of channeling some of his talents in either music or poetry into something productive that would have been a much better road to travel than the one he inevitably chose for himself, which resulted in the needless murders of several people in 1969.
    But that's just me.

    • @illinoisroy6325
      @illinoisroy6325 Рік тому

      The money could go to the victims families. It would be a shame to destroy the tapes as they are part of a very interesting time in American history. The material won't be released while anyone that was involved in the recordings is still living.

    • @moonytheloony6516
      @moonytheloony6516 Рік тому +1

      @@illinoisroy6325
      If that's what the families specifically want and are asking for then perhaps yes...maybe. And it's a big, big maybe.
      I'd wager they'd be at peace with never having this material released. The truth is that I'm unaware of any of them calling for its release which tells us two things...they are either unaware of the recordings existence or they are aware and they do not want any part of it.
      I'd wager on the latter but that's just me.
      Releasing this material does open wounds. Keep that in mind.
      This topic is not that black and white. It's terribly grey in this case and the consequences of releasing this material is something that would need to be very carefully examined, with attention to legalities for all involved.
      The Beach Boys have crafted a very specific legacy, done mostly with great care within the fabric of American music. One of the things that holds this in place are things like perception. Artists generally have a runway in which they want that perception to take off as best as possible, with a few deviations of misperceptions to be expected...but not too many.
      Releasing recordings featuring Charles Manson will create a macabre fascination with the band to just enough people to become a thing, and that is troubling because that perception of interest can begin to alter how they wish to be remembered or referenced, so it's easy to say as an uninvolved person, to suggest they should do this or that, or have this or that done after they're all dead, but it's a completely different perspective though the eyes of the artist who have their names attached to that specific work...forever as it also is with their families.
      The personal opinion or conviction from the band, on this topic, is very evident in the fact that these recordings, well over 50 years old, have not been released. That's a very crystal clear intention.
      If it is there conscious wishes to never have this material released then that wish should be honored in perpetuity.
      As I stated the world as we know it has done just dandy all of these decades without their release. There is nothing to be gained that's relevant by releasing this material but their is something to lose. I betcha Brian Wilson would agree.

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 Рік тому +6

    just to chime in with my opinion.
    no.
    the tapes should not be released.
    there is enough glorification of serial and mass murderers.
    we don't need more.

  • @jeromealexandre4162
    @jeromealexandre4162 11 місяців тому

    Dennis also introduced Tex Watson to Charles Manson .

  • @mahaputera7
    @mahaputera7 Рік тому

    2:54 what movie is the clip sourced from?
    P.S.
    got it! scene from : The Beach Boys: An American Family (2000)

  • @robertrobinson-9161
    @robertrobinson-9161 Рік тому

    The beach boy made Manson crack up 😄

  • @michaeldaley5831
    @michaeldaley5831 10 місяців тому +1

    You say that the band’s popularity was fading,& their record sales were down by 1968,yes,true in there homeland,but not the rest of the world,especially in Europe,the albums & singles did well,especially here in the uk.Selling out all there concerts here & in Europe.

  • @frenchabortion
    @frenchabortion Рік тому

    Well between Lie and The Manson Family Jams (which doesn’t feature Charlie) was probably ALL the material written (Actually written and being repeatable). Remember, Manson was a HUGE Beatles fan, obviously “The White Album” affected him, but he would have understood what a “song” is. Basic structure (Intro, Verse, Chorus, Verse, Chorus, End) I know he wouldn’t have been familiar with a Scratch Track, but everything I’ve ever read about what Manson and Dennis did was a lot of “starting and stopping” and that there wasn’t much to listen to besides that… But I’ve heard other things too, wasn’t it in Ed Saunders “The Family” where it was first mentioned? I could be wrong, don’t remember. Anyways GREAT video.

    • @pajanightbadger1713
      @pajanightbadger1713 Рік тому

      Where's the proof that Manson was a huge beatles fan?

    • @FenderBassMustang
      @FenderBassMustang 10 місяців тому

      @@pajanightbadger1713 How about "Healter Skelter" (misspelled), and "Piggy" written in blood at the murder scenes?

    • @pajanightbadger1713
      @pajanightbadger1713 9 місяців тому

      @@FenderBassMustang He wasn't present at one scene and he'd left the other scene before the murders and finger-painting started.
      Anything else?

  • @johnrunion5357
    @johnrunion5357 Рік тому +6

    the beach boys started brother records in 1966. the beatles did not start apple until 1968. yes, the beach boys were labeled uncool in america in the late 60's, but they continued to be very well respected and having hit songs elsewhere such as the UK. i have read about TWO un-released manson full albums; one of which was recorded in western studios (where the beach boys had recorded) and used the studio musicians known as the wrecking crew for back up.

    • @wcgcapone
      @wcgcapone Рік тому +3

      That makes sense; The Wrecking Crew were the real musicians on most of the Laurel Canyon scene bands' albums.

    • @johnrunion5357
      @johnrunion5357 Рік тому +2

      @@wcgcapone carole kaye has said that manson is why she quit doing pop/rock sessions. much is made of dennis's connection to manson, but supposedly brian introduced manson to carol kaye in a LA studio. one party was entering while the other was exiting. reportedly brian also took manson around and introduced him to many in the music business. jim morrison would drive hs car to the ranch in search for drugs. joel McCrea's son Jody from the beach party movies also partied at the ranch. actress angela lansbury wrote a note for her 15 year old daughter giving her/the daughter permission to travel with 'the family'. there were many more h-wood/music celebrities other than neil young and dennis with connections to manson.

    • @stevenfunderburg1623
      @stevenfunderburg1623 Рік тому +4

      @@johnrunion5357 It's going to take me several days just to process the Carol Kaye and Angela Lansbury thing.

    • @johnrunion5357
      @johnrunion5357 Рік тому +2

      @@stevenfunderburg1623 i highly recommend tom o'neill's book Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the 60's. it was researched for 20 years.

    • @stevenfunderburg1623
      @stevenfunderburg1623 Рік тому +1

      @@johnrunion5357 I have seen him discussing it with Joe Rogan and I am very intrigued to read it. 👍

  • @LifestylewithAbby
    @LifestylewithAbby Рік тому

    Wow, completely insane! I had no idea about any of this 🤯

  • @captainape6807
    @captainape6807 Рік тому +6

    If you go to the Nikolas Schrek channel, you'll find that he has a has a very interesting take on the whole affair. If the Manson case interests you its worth looking at the Manson relevant vids posted there.

  • @JonSmith152
    @JonSmith152 Рік тому

    Wow this is all new to me! I had no idea they had such a connection with Manson

  • @ryandenis7667
    @ryandenis7667 Рік тому +1

    look at your game girl by Charles is a good song

  • @brendandelaney255
    @brendandelaney255 Рік тому +1

    These are some great films on music conspiracy, you should make more videos on the topic

  • @Paul-dw2cl
    @Paul-dw2cl Рік тому

    1971 Rolling Stone Magazine Anonymous Member of the Beach Boys interview- was that an entire interview with 1 anonymous Beach Boys member, or was more than 1 member interviewed?

  • @erikmolnar6585
    @erikmolnar6585 Рік тому

    Look At Your Game Girl would have been AM Radio Gold in the 1970s if Charlie had been more patient! Dennis was the coolest to this day

    • @SaintKines
      @SaintKines Рік тому

      My favorite of his. I also like Sick City and Home Is Where You're Happy

  • @MrDirtybear
    @MrDirtybear Рік тому

    Dennis was never going to write a book about his side of the connection with the Manson Family. It would only mean more talk about it, when the book was published. Saying that he going to write a book was his way of trying to move away from the subject. Whatever unreleased masters The Beach Boys have with Manson as writer, vocalist, with The Beach Boys and Monson's Family supporting him will only ever be available via a bootleg, or as some marginally legal out-of-copyright process. All old contracts for the publishing rights and performance credits would be hotly disputed, any new settlement of who wrote and played what even more disputed. Mike Love would be on the phone to his lawyers at the mere rumour of the masters escaping his control legitimately. But a high quality bootleg? Maybe. Why not cover the two Flame albums and their contents? That would an interesting set of of legal knots to explain and try to untie....

  • @duanelawrence78
    @duanelawrence78 Рік тому +1

    I think this gives new meaning to the song Good Vibrations!!✌️🇺🇲

  • @marklechman2225
    @marklechman2225 Рік тому

    I just realized you sound a little like Casey Kasem. 👍

  • @underworldproductions2705
    @underworldproductions2705 Рік тому +1

    ua-cam.com/video/JUl7DiZOctY/v-deo.html
    Charles Manson ACTUALLY singing with Dennis Wilson from this session.

  • @1683clifton
    @1683clifton Рік тому +1

    Max headroom?

  • @CDPlayer1994
    @CDPlayer1994 Рік тому +1

    What's the video footage being used that shows Manson with The Beach Boys?

  • @Rambo69710
    @Rambo69710 11 місяців тому +1

    Leslie's out of prison haha told you she was getting out😂

  • @twomindz79
    @twomindz79 Рік тому

    4:45 Is Carl not Brian .

  • @l.l6700
    @l.l6700 Рік тому

    What film are the scenes from in 3:01?

  • @starcloud4959
    @starcloud4959 10 місяців тому

    Did Manson do any surfing with Denis?

  • @DC8091
    @DC8091 Рік тому +1

    The book Chaos covers this EXTREMELY well

  • @DrumWild
    @DrumWild Рік тому

    I got the LIE album at Tower Records in Sherman Oaks. Got another Manson bootleg called The Way of the Wolf at Museum of Death in Hollywood.
    They're not worth pursuing. The only track I liked was his cover of Working Class Hero.
    Captain Beefheart also met with Manson at the ranch where they were staying. You can read about that in the book Lunar Notes by Zoot Horn Rollo.
    Manson is a turd, never up be worshiped, and I'm glad he's gone forever.

    • @erniericardo8140
      @erniericardo8140 Рік тому +1

      There's also a story about Jim Morrison driving up to Spahn Ranch talking with the Manson girls, but then decided to split- Im sure Morrison found something off about Charlie's girls and spooked him out.

  • @2ridiculous41
    @2ridiculous41 Рік тому +5

    The version I heard waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day was that Van Dyke Parks went to see Terry Melcher and found he had moved out.
    He drove off and was the last person to leave the house alive before the Family entered it.
    It was Melcher who had finally nixed the Manson album.
    Melcher was so scared when he heard what had happened he flew out the same day.

    • @krisscanlon4051
      @krisscanlon4051 Рік тому

      Agreed 👍

    • @2ridiculous41
      @2ridiculous41 Рік тому +1

      @@krisscanlon4051 thinking about it, I seem to remember tat story coming directly from VDP.

    • @scotttaylor7767
      @scotttaylor7767 Рік тому +1

      Yet according to Tom o Neil in his book chaos. Terry Melcher showed up at Mansons ranch in September 1969 after the murders and begged forgiveness!! At first Neil didn’t believe this story but Melcher confirmed it when one of the girls described the car he was driving. And he told the author that was his car !

  • @Mediocre00Rebel
    @Mediocre00Rebel Рік тому

    I had the same theory they went to the tate residence for the producer!

  • @harrychapin808
    @harrychapin808 6 місяців тому +1

    Dennis was smart to vacate his house and stay away!! Of course, it was a different time then, and most hippies ( though perhaps looking 4 freebies), who came together in a group, were peaceful ✌️ and of the "love everyone" mentality. Manson had already spent more than half his life in prison... and had violent tendencies. He had been convicted for sodomy of a young male, a number of times- 13 or 15 years old the 1st time. Had Dennis had a PI look into Manson's criminal and family background... I doubt he would've been so eager to help him. But... it was a different time as aforementioned. People were into individual "freedom" and making their way to California from all over the country and coming from all walks of life. AND Hippies didn't really like "THE Fuzz." SO Manson kinda fit it for a short time. DENNIS may have done some crazy stuff... but he had a reasonable sense of morality. Chasing women, getting stones, crazy parties - all part of the "life." BUT Manson had NO social/cultural or family-type sense of morality. He was raised inside institutions by institutions... and was abused in many ways. Manson didn't have the capacity to "draw the line" when making moral decisions- There was NO LINE!! It's probably a good thing he never made it to the "BIG STAGE." What if he had an off night and the audience "BOOED" him. How would he have responded... even days later?! Would he have planted "family members" inside a different audience ( at night), and had them start killing fans, indiscriminately?!! PROBABLY. I also believe MKUltra may have been involved with Manson.

  • @Bootradr
    @Bootradr Рік тому +2

    It is interesting the various stories and acquaintances that a lot of times aren't mentioned when it comes to Charles Manson. I watched a documentary just about a week ago on the Amplified UA-cam channel about this exact topic. If you haven't had a chance to see it, it's free and I recommend checking it out. It's a full documentary that's about an hour and 40 minutes long.
    What trips me out as how Manson obviously could pass as a normal person some of the time but he definitely couldn't keep the psychotic side of himself hidden for too long either. I've always wondered if Manson just did too much acid or too many drugs and fried his brain or if he was this way prior to his drug use? That documentary reported that Manson did know that Terry Melcher no longer lived at the house where Sharon Tate was killed. It sounds like Manson and Tate may have even seen each other the last time Manson went by the house before the murders.
    A very creepy and strange story indeed! Interesting video you made also. I didn't know anything of the second album or demos or whatever the other recording was. I noticed a few weeks ago, through an app named Upcoming and lists upcoming LP releases for Amazon, that the Manson Lies album was being repressed or reissued. I've never heard it but they did play some of the songs from it in that documentary. It was kind of surprising that it wasn't just a bunch of babbling from a crazy guy like I always thought it would be. I'd be curious what the lyrics and songs on the album were about. I've never heard it but it's wild that it was still released after his arrest. Thanks for the video.
    Brian in Fort Worth 🎶

    • @captainape6807
      @captainape6807 Рік тому +1

      Have you seen the vid "Charles Manson Superstar"? It's on Y.T.

    • @Bootradr
      @Bootradr Рік тому

      @@captainape6807 No I haven't. I'll give it a look. I never have really searched out a lot of information on Manson but I've seen a number of TV and other documentaries through the years. Thanks for the info.

    • @captainape6807
      @captainape6807 Рік тому +1

      @@Bootradr You're welcome.

  • @doctorinsomnia5410
    @doctorinsomnia5410 Рік тому

    Let's go Helter now, everybody Skelter WOW, come on Helter Skelter with me.....

  • @powerdavid6235
    @powerdavid6235 Рік тому +8

    I still have the öriginal 45rpm single by the Beach Boys "Bluebirds over the mountains", the B side is "Cease to resist", with Manson on lead vocals. This is a different version from the one that appeared on the "Lie" Manson album.

    • @perceptionmanagement2116
      @perceptionmanagement2116 Рік тому +4

      No such thing exists.

    • @barstow_
      @barstow_ Рік тому

      Upload a rip please

    • @spacecase3043
      @spacecase3043 Рік тому +1

      Charles manson doing lead vocals on a beach boys single? If it did exist there's no way it would be easily accessible. None of them want to be associated with manson rightfully so, so if it did exist I'll bet its only on a the physical 45

    • @illinoisroy6325
      @illinoisroy6325 Рік тому +6

      You are mistaken. The b-side of "Bluebirds over the Mountain" is the Beach Boys version of Manson's song "Cease to Exist" called "Never Learn Not To Love" sung by Dennis Wilson with the Beach Boys on backing vocals. Charlie is not on it at all. The single version is about 30 seconds shorter than the album version without the reverse gong at the beginning.