Camila does a great job here. The Sony has more detail. They sound very similar, but when it switches to the Sony, it's like a layer of gauze was removed. A thin layer, but still the Sony has better definition. That being said, is it worth the price difference? Well, that's up to the individual user. Given how the C800 is utilized in today's music, it would be great to hear a comparison using a vocal with more transients, like a rap vocal, to see how the Stam stacks up in that regard.
They are pretty darn close to my ears. I'm guessing that if the Stam is ever so slightly less clean transparent, that'd be just fine to many singers. I agree, using this with a rap vocal, or even an RnB vocal, would have been more hitting the target audience for the Sony.
To my ears, with my eyes closed from the very beginning, I actually preferred the Stam when it came to the openness of the low mids. To the point where I could actually tell when the microphone switched, based on that detail. This is something I personally find I am always addressing in the mix, so something that gives the Stam major points for me especially because I record a lot of Hip Hop, R&B and Pop vocals. Then you add the price tag difference and supporting an independent, hand-made gear company, it becomes a no-brainer!
Exact though. They’re both great but that Stam sounds really good. I got a SA800G v1 and a V2 with the heat sink on pre order. Also have a 87T, SA1073, and a SA4000 MK1, they are all keepers. Don’t sleep on that SA87T, it’s my second fav next to the sa800g. Keep up the good work, Josh.
There's a lot of comments here that sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. In good hands this mic can be cost-effective substitute to something that costs almost 10x as much. Anyway the silent consonants on the Stam sound really pleasing.
Stam Audio makes the best mic clones on the market. I'm a big fan of the Warm Audio outboard gear, but they just don't nail the mics. Stam really does it. I'm going to just bite the bullet and buy an Neumann U87 ai, but there's absolutely no way I'm spending ten grand plus on a C800G, but I definitely may grab one of these bad boys. They sound fantastic.
Hi mr Stam, your products sounds fantastic! My suggestion for future is try compare section bu section as the tambor is different as you already know. Based on this song highs and lows was dominant, upper mids were difficult to compare... but regardless ill be getting 1.
Raw recordings are a bad way to judge mic comparisons because a lot of the reason certain mics are used like the u87, is because of how they take EQ and processing. The Rode sounds "kind of" like a u87 until you start EQing it and then it's game over. I really don't put a lot of stock in raw recordings because most sound bad and muddy tbh. People don't just record something raw and use it like that for obvious reasons, so why are raw vocals being used to compare this? Go to Reid Stefan's channel to hear the differences being pulled out with processing. Raw recordings are near worthless for comparisons because no one buying a C800G is buying it to use the raw recording.
Extremely similar sound quality....but it's almost impossible to properly compare as each line is tonally quite different. I would have much preferred loops of the same line sung into both mics, rather than real time A/Bing. Even so, based on this shootout the Stam knocked it out of the park - anyone who claims there is some HUGE difference between the two is deluding themselves, or falling victim to bias. With my eyes closed I had no idea which was which. I have the SA-87 (an amazing product), and may have get this one some day!
i can hear an audible difference between the two microphones. when it switches to the sony a bunch of mud goes away and you can hear the mouth noises much more clearly.
Nate I have a Telefunken 251 and I sold my C800G. This mic has a very specific sound and you should not buy a C800G if it’s the only mic you’ll have because it won’t work on everything. My 251 works well in more situations than my Sony did. The Sony is good for a very clean and modern sound. It will show the mistakes of the source very easily. The 251 can also be used to get a modern sound, which I do quite often, it’s just that people see rappers with the Sony and think “Oh, they’re using it so it must be the best mic!” That’s not true and it does not sound good on everything.
andivax Lol, don’t listen to this dude anyone reading this. Chris Brown , Wiz Khalifa, Logic have used a 251 and Rihanna, Kehlani, Billie E., use a Sony so his entire comment is invalid.
andivax Lol, don’t listen to this dude anyone reading this. Chris Brown , Wiz Khalifa, Logic have used a 251 and Rihanna, Kehlani, Billie E., use a Sony so his entire comment is invalid.
Both are great mics. I make both of them. The 251 is significantly more expensive though. The SA-800 is now on offer for 30 days at 1090 USD. The 251 in stock will be around 1990 USD
Is no one seeing that the sony is literally pointed at her nose? Almost her eyes? Lol. How is that supposed to be a proper representation of the sony? That being said the Stam isnt in the best position either, but I think seperate takes with good positioning is the way to go for a real comparison
the sony is bigger sounding and more revealing. It depends what you want for each singer. On some singers, you wouldn't want a larger, more transparent image of a less than stellar voice. T's sound more pronounced on the sony.
No matter how much it sounds like the original, If it doesn’t have the big metallic thing on the back it doesn’t sound right. That’s really what we all wanna pay for. The experience of singing into a windmill, that’s needs a lot of de essing..
@@zpmicrophones The SA-800 MK2 (SA-800G) will be ready soon and they are now identical in that frequency. Just needed some fine tuning. Will post another video soon of the new 800 in a couple of months!. Hopefully Camila can join us again.
@@joshuastam7704 daamn you just made my life harder. Researching the whole day about Stam Audio, Advanced Audio and Barbaric Amplification since I am searching for a c800g clone... now I will wait for your revision. When can we expect to see something?
The Sony sounds just a TAD more forward and round... but, not by much.... at all. If I'm cutting a record, neither of these mics is the issue. If I were recording and had access to both of these mics, I would only be tempted to give a SLIGHT EQ boost to the Stam somewhere in the mids to try to get a little bit closer to that presence on the Sony. But... with no knowledge of what the Sony sounds like... I'm keeping that take on the Stam and rolling with it. Not much else is needed on that vocal at all.
Sony is smoother...you can hear the roundness to the sibilance where the Stam has a hard edge to them. Those things matter huge. That could also be if the Sony is the upper mic, she's signing more directly in to the lower one.
Yeah she wasn't properly positioned to the mics to give a fair comparison. That said... you can hear where, if she was, it might have been splitting hairs difference. And considering the cost difference, I'm going to buy two Stams. Only other guy who I know has made a version of the Sony C800 is Dave Thomas with Advanced Audio Microphones of Canada.
I'm confused...on your site..the picture shows your mic looking just like the Sony with the big thing hanging off the back. This video doesn't show it. So does it have it or not? If it didn't and it now does...does it actually serve a purpose other than "looks"? Mic sounds great. Just want to know what to expect if I order. Thanks.
@@freddybronx9504 I knew it was the heatsink but I have seen other 800 knock-offs that do not have it. but the stam web site is really unclear and this video muddies the water even more. I'm thinking that an earlier version didn't have it and maybe now the new one does. To be honest..I have no desire to get one that doesn't have the heatsink lol.
@@savethefails .does it actually serve a purpose other than "looks"? that was your question, and if you go to their website you going to see it.i dont work so stam audio i was just trying to help lol have a good one.keep recording.
@@savethefails Generally, if you really want the best (in my humble opinion) clone of 800g, then you need to look only and only at the SA-800G. I watched a huge number of reviews, comparisons of Sony clones and only Stam impressed me. Watch this video again and you will hear how SA is close to the original Sony, they are almost the same. I don’t know how some people heard layer of gauze here, but if you'll find on UA-cam some comparisons like Sony vs GA, Peluso VTB, or God forbid, Slate (LOL), you’ll understand that they are all fucking harsh like a rattlesnake. In all blind tests I did, I knew, where was the Sony and where was the shitty mic, but I can't hear a difference between Sony and Stam, because Stam IS SMOOTH. That’s why Sony is the most popular RnB and hip-hop microphone -because it is bright and soft like butter at the same time (and mix-ready ofc), but it not should be HARSH, this is a sign of shitty mic, STAM is NOT HARSH, Stam SA800 is really hi-end microphone. And of course, forget about Warm Audio lol. Did you even see what their microphones have inside? I recently saw one review and was shocked, it looked like the work of a junior school student (ua-cam.com/video/yGVOormJEqo/v-deo.html here the wonderful man shows it on 3:15 =). It just CAN'T be compared with the Stam... Just go to Stam FB page and take a look at the pics, everything is perfect and it's aesthetic orgasm. Stam always shows what's inside their compressors, channel strips and microphones because it looks beautiful and it will work great. They even don't need to have high-budget ads like WA, because real professionals anyway choose Stam Audio over WA. And also, for my ears, when someone sings in Warm Audio, it feels like someone is spitting right into the capsule, lol, they harsh! Sorry, but for me Warm Audio is just doing business, but Stam doing hardware for professionals and he puts his heart into it. Just note that if you really wanna buy a Stam's mic, you better order it now, because you can wait for years. I wanted to buy the SA-800 almost a year ago, but it was not available for sale. In Email they answered me that they maybe release a new batch in August, but they only released the announcement of the new SA-800G MKII, which was supposed to ship in January but will now ship in March. Unfortunately, a few months ago I had the money to buy it, but now I have problems with it and I'm not sure if I can buy this wonderful microphone for myself. But to understand that in Stam Audio they make the best microphones you don't need to have them, you just need ears and UA-cam.
@@savethefails idk why youtube deleted my comment, but on website you just see the newer version of this microphone - SA800G :). SA-800 on video, this is the old model. You can find photo in the case on Stam's facebook page!
I think it really is just an EQ difference. Stam mic clones usually sound 90% like the microphones they're imitating and miss the natural compression thing some of the highest end microphones have, but this one is WAY closer. He did a great job, but I think that sort of speaks more to how insanely overpriced the original microphone is.
@@nate8854 I disagree. My 47 and 67 are 100% identical to me. The 87 is 95% and this one I would say 90% but I am still doing some adjustments to get it to 100%. This is just my opinion of my measurements and ears and frequency curves I ran everyday for years. Thanks for your comment Nate.
STAM AUDIO. YOU POSTED THIS 10 YEARS AGO ON GEARSLUTZ ABOUT THE CURRENT SA-800 : Stam Audio : I should clarify before this goes any further that we have not announced a Sony C800G replica. This is a black version of the SA-47 body. We have other priorities right now and not a lot of time on our hands. Thanks for sharing this SO. IS THIS THE SA 47 BODY STILL ?
The sony has more heft throughout all the ranges. The weight of the low frequency response feels more substantive, with refined and pleasant clarity. The Stam definitely has representation within the low, mid, and high frequencies, but there is a very silky, fuller presence to the Sony. Stam should be commended for producing such an honest representation for these mics. Camila is a dream vocally and visually!
@@kennethgarcia25 I guess u did not see the smile of the end of my comment. And believe it or not I am in the recording business .. in fact I live from doing music for almost 20 years now. But I guess nowadays everybody is an expert.
@@kennethgarcia25 Anyway if my comment offends you please tell me and I delete it. Sorry if you thought I am making fun of you.. I was making fun of the way we end up talking about sound. To give so detailed impressions.
@@BoxRecords I assumed you were in music. I’m ok with your comment. Some people are more verbal than others. While you may not see things this way or try developing a more conscious and/or verbally nuanced way of describing sonic qualities and/or their effects on you, that does not make them less legitimate. Some prefer their gut or instinctual understanding and actually insist this way makes them more “artistic”. I’m actually glad you brought it up. I believe that there needs to be an interplay between both systems of the mind. Typically intuition must lead as we start by knowing what we like but don’t have a conscious understanding of. Over time we can try to become more conscious of what we like and do not like. That makes us more consistent over time as we explicitly quantify and qualify things with words and numbers. We learn to dial in a specific compressor or use a particular mic and preamp on a particular voice on a particular piece of music for some character we appreciate in the mix. In truth, only by sharing those opinions or observations do those descriptions become “standardized” within the culture and to ourselves. We may be led by our ears, but eventually we recognize the tendency for the right outcome to reside at a particular location on the dials and faders. Apparently, you are more operating from the gut and have had success keeping your process at that level. Whatever works!
"Singer" should be upgraded to "Artist" in the description. Camila is outstanding!
Whats wrong with singer?
Camila does a great job here. The Sony has more detail. They sound very similar, but when it switches to the Sony, it's like a layer of gauze was removed. A thin layer, but still the Sony has better definition. That being said, is it worth the price difference? Well, that's up to the individual user. Given how the C800 is utilized in today's music, it would be great to hear a comparison using a vocal with more transients, like a rap vocal, to see how the Stam stacks up in that regard.
They are pretty darn close to my ears. I'm guessing that if the Stam is ever so slightly less clean transparent, that'd be just fine to many singers. I agree, using this with a rap vocal, or even an RnB vocal, would have been more hitting the target audience for the Sony.
Given the very large difference in price, for many a marginal sonic difference is not worth the large extra cost .
Thanks for the demo Camila. You have a beautiful voice, and it's great to see your face :)
To my ears, with my eyes closed from the very beginning, I actually preferred the Stam when it came to the openness of the low mids. To the point where I could actually tell when the microphone switched, based on that detail. This is something I personally find I am always addressing in the mix, so something that gives the Stam major points for me especially because I record a lot of Hip Hop, R&B and Pop vocals. Then you add the price tag difference and supporting an independent, hand-made gear company, it becomes a no-brainer!
@Joel Kalsi Same thoughts, I wonder if the MK2 revision improved this aspect
My thoughts exactly I will be purchasing soon
Exact though. They’re both great but that Stam sounds really good. I got a SA800G v1 and a V2 with the heat sink on pre order. Also have a 87T, SA1073, and a SA4000 MK1, they are all keepers. Don’t sleep on that SA87T, it’s my second fav next to the sa800g. Keep up the good work, Josh.
There's a lot of comments here that sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. In good hands this mic can be cost-effective substitute to something that costs almost 10x as much. Anyway the silent consonants on the Stam sound really pleasing.
that part
Stam Audio makes the best mic clones on the market. I'm a big fan of the Warm Audio outboard gear, but they just don't nail the mics. Stam really does it. I'm going to just bite the bullet and buy an Neumann U87 ai, but there's absolutely no way I'm spending ten grand plus on a C800G, but I definitely may grab one of these bad boys. They sound fantastic.
Hi mr Stam, your products sounds fantastic! My suggestion for future is try compare section bu section as the tambor is different as you already know. Based on this song highs and lows was dominant, upper mids were difficult to compare... but regardless ill be getting 1.
Just copped mine. Couldn’t be happier!
Thanks brother!, means a lot, Josh
@@joshuastam7704 Is this the heiserman or the Braingasm version?
The dynamic range sound slightly smoother on the Sony.
Raw recordings are a bad way to judge mic comparisons because a lot of the reason certain mics are used like the u87, is because of how they take EQ and processing. The Rode sounds "kind of" like a u87 until you start EQing it and then it's game over. I really don't put a lot of stock in raw recordings because most sound bad and muddy tbh. People don't just record something raw and use it like that for obvious reasons, so why are raw vocals being used to compare this? Go to Reid Stefan's channel to hear the differences being pulled out with processing. Raw recordings are near worthless for comparisons because no one buying a C800G is buying it to use the raw recording.
Tom Guy Very smart, u87 ai being put through compression and EQ it’s over, that mic sounds like The best microphone in the world after that
This is now my favorite singer, do her an album !!
Im sold!!! Amazing mic.
Espectacular Camila, la mejor pero por lejos! 👏🏼❤️ Ahora Stam Audio tiene el mejor video de su canal 🙌🏼
Extremely similar sound quality....but it's almost impossible to properly compare as each line is tonally quite different. I would have much preferred loops of the same line sung into both mics, rather than real time A/Bing. Even so, based on this shootout the Stam knocked it out of the park - anyone who claims there is some HUGE difference between the two is deluding themselves, or falling victim to bias. With my eyes closed I had no idea which was which. I have the SA-87 (an amazing product), and may have get this one some day!
Aaaaah! I need this one! Could the singer come to France for the delivery ? :)
Great job!
Both sound great ! Stam is great value.
Wow, this was incredibly close and HARD to pick out which was which..sometimes where I preferred the Stam Audio over the OG. Dangg
i can hear an audible difference between the two microphones. when it switches to the sony a bunch of mud goes away and you can hear the mouth noises much more clearly.
Muy bueno favor indicar si el audio esta procesado, que preramp etc. gracias
Sin proceso, preamp SSL
Well, THAT was mesmerizing 😳❤️
Which mic is the sony? Which the stam? The lips are a little closer at the lower one...
This may influence the sound a little bit .......
great mic but sounds a bit harsh compared to smooth sound of the sony ..great work tho ..should be sold for 800$
and sonny for 1700$
They are different. I prefer one over the other tho. Very nice
Where to hear more of the vocalist
What pre used here?
Considering buying one of these instead of the 251. Can you demo some male vocals?
Nate I have a Telefunken 251 and I sold my C800G. This mic has a very specific sound and you should not buy a C800G if it’s the only mic you’ll have because it won’t work on everything. My 251 works well in more situations than my Sony did. The Sony is good for a very clean and modern sound. It will show the mistakes of the source very easily. The 251 can also be used to get a modern sound, which I do quite often, it’s just that people see rappers with the Sony and think “Oh, they’re using it so it must be the best mic!” That’s not true and it does not sound good on everything.
251 - gurlz. 800 - raps.
andivax Lol, don’t listen to this dude anyone reading this. Chris Brown , Wiz Khalifa, Logic have used a 251 and Rihanna, Kehlani, Billie E., use a Sony so his entire comment is invalid.
andivax Lol, don’t listen to this dude anyone reading this. Chris Brown , Wiz Khalifa, Logic have used a 251 and Rihanna, Kehlani, Billie E., use a Sony so his entire comment is invalid.
Both are great mics. I make both of them. The 251 is significantly more expensive though. The SA-800 is now on offer for 30 days at 1090 USD. The 251 in stock will be around 1990 USD
Must. Have. One.
her voice loves that Sony c800g
Bravo, Camila
Is no one seeing that the sony is literally pointed at her nose? Almost her eyes? Lol. How is that supposed to be a proper representation of the sony? That being said the Stam isnt in the best position either, but I think seperate takes with good positioning is the way to go for a real comparison
Yes, you're right
What Chain was this recorded?? Pre amp, Compressor? AD? THANKS! Great Shootout. I want me some Stam now :)
the sony is bigger sounding and more revealing. It depends what you want for each singer. On some singers, you wouldn't want a larger, more transparent image of a less than stellar voice. T's sound more pronounced on the sony.
I think i has more to do with the tube. Ive had a sony clone and the tube is very important. the original tube allows those highs to come through
Excelente stam audio😀🎤🎶
Wow, thats an impressive microphone! Are these available in Australia?
Which compressor did you use ?
No matter how much it sounds like the original, If it doesn’t have the big metallic thing on the back it doesn’t sound right. That’s really what we all wanna pay for.
The experience of singing into a windmill, that’s needs a lot of de essing..
lmfao
They added the heatsink in the updated version.
Which one is better golden age ga8000 or steam audio sa800g?
I heard that the Golden Age is a little dark sounding in comparison to the Sony.
Very identical indeed!
This pass needed HPF on both mics. Singer has a beautiful voice but very clicky (saliva) on this session.
Sony has that signature high end sizzle that I don't hear in the Stam but Stam sounds great nonetheless.
They have a different frequency they "sizzle" at.
@@zpmicrophones The SA-800 MK2 (SA-800G) will be ready soon and they are now identical in that frequency. Just needed some fine tuning. Will post another video soon of the new 800 in a couple of months!. Hopefully Camila can join us again.
@@joshuastam7704 daamn you just made my life harder. Researching the whole day about Stam Audio, Advanced Audio and Barbaric Amplification since I am searching for a c800g clone... now I will wait for your revision. When can we expect to see something?
@@joshuastam7704 yes!!! can't wait to hear it
sounds identical and this is not even the new version
The Sony sounds just a TAD more forward and round... but, not by much.... at all. If I'm cutting a record, neither of these mics is the issue. If I were recording and had access to both of these mics, I would only be tempted to give a SLIGHT EQ boost to the Stam somewhere in the mids to try to get a little bit closer to that presence on the Sony. But... with no knowledge of what the Sony sounds like... I'm keeping that take on the Stam and rolling with it. Not much else is needed on that vocal at all.
Main thing is the transients on the Sony are more smoothe
God I need a Sony C800G
Well...consider the price for the origonal is 10xs the price of Stam...stam is a shocking bargain .
Sony is smoother...you can hear the roundness to the sibilance where the Stam has a hard edge to them. Those things matter huge. That could also be if the Sony is the upper mic, she's signing more directly in to the lower one.
Actually the Sony is brighter on this video, the stam is rounder. I know made a new MK2 which is even closer
Yeah she wasn't properly positioned to the mics to give a fair comparison. That said... you can hear where, if she was, it might have been splitting hairs difference. And considering the cost difference, I'm going to buy two Stams. Only other guy who I know has made a version of the Sony C800 is Dave Thomas with Advanced Audio Microphones of Canada.
I get the same feeling man! There's a special smoothness on the Sony that makes it so pleasing
Heard this and bought a Sony c800g.
It's a great mic indeed!
oh really u had 10k pocketed away for a rainy day and spent it on a mic huh? lol
I'm confused...on your site..the picture shows your mic looking just like the Sony with the big thing hanging off the back. This video doesn't show it.
So does it have it or not? If it didn't and it now does...does it actually serve a purpose other than "looks"? Mic sounds great. Just want to know what to expect if I order. Thanks.
that thing in the back is a heatsink so the tube dont overheat.it should come with it.
@@freddybronx9504 I knew it was the heatsink but I have seen other 800 knock-offs that do not have it. but the stam web site is really unclear and this video muddies the water even more. I'm thinking that an earlier version didn't have it and maybe now the new one does. To be honest..I have no desire to get one that doesn't have the heatsink lol.
@@savethefails .does it actually serve a purpose other than "looks"? that was your question, and if you go to their website you going to see it.i dont work so stam audio i was just trying to help lol have a good one.keep recording.
@@savethefails Generally, if you really want the best (in my humble opinion) clone of 800g, then you need to look only and only at the SA-800G. I watched a huge number of reviews, comparisons of Sony clones and only Stam impressed me. Watch this video again and you will hear how SA is close to the original Sony, they are almost the same. I don’t know how some people heard layer of gauze here, but if you'll find on UA-cam some comparisons like Sony vs GA, Peluso VTB, or God forbid, Slate (LOL), you’ll understand that they are all fucking harsh like a rattlesnake. In all blind tests I did, I knew, where was the Sony and where was the shitty mic, but I can't hear a difference between Sony and Stam, because Stam IS SMOOTH. That’s why Sony is the most popular RnB and hip-hop microphone -because it is bright and soft like butter at the same time (and mix-ready ofc), but it not should be HARSH, this is a sign of shitty mic, STAM is NOT HARSH, Stam SA800 is really hi-end microphone. And of course, forget about Warm Audio lol. Did you even see what their microphones have inside? I recently saw one review and was shocked, it looked like the work of a junior school student (ua-cam.com/video/yGVOormJEqo/v-deo.html here the wonderful man shows it on 3:15 =). It just CAN'T be compared with the Stam... Just go to Stam FB page and take a look at the pics, everything is perfect and it's aesthetic orgasm. Stam always shows what's inside their compressors, channel strips and microphones because it looks beautiful and it will work great. They even don't need to have high-budget ads like WA, because real professionals anyway choose Stam Audio over WA. And also, for my ears, when someone sings in Warm Audio, it feels like someone is spitting right into the capsule, lol, they harsh! Sorry, but for me Warm Audio is just doing business, but Stam doing hardware for professionals and he puts his heart into it. Just note that if you really wanna buy a Stam's mic, you better order it now, because you can wait for years. I wanted to buy the SA-800 almost a year ago, but it was not available for sale. In Email they answered me that they maybe release a new batch in August, but they only released the announcement of the new SA-800G MKII, which was supposed to ship in January but will now ship in March. Unfortunately, a few months ago I had the money to buy it, but now I have problems with it and I'm not sure if I can buy this wonderful microphone for myself. But to understand that in Stam Audio they make the best microphones you don't need to have them, you just need ears and UA-cam.
@@savethefails idk why youtube deleted my comment, but on website you just see the newer version of this microphone - SA800G :). SA-800 on video, this is the old model. You can find photo in the case on Stam's facebook page!
The T's and S's are smoother on the Sony. I'll still get the stam though.
That sony is elite of 🎤
I would much rather have the full tracks of each as I find it much easier to compare the same line on each mic
sony is smoother
i think sh'es too close to the mics
yep.
Yes what is the deal
they literally sound the same y'all are tripping
Very, very similar tone. Near indistinguishable.
it's pretty close in general, but I prefer the upper mids from the sony. hope I can eq it this way with my stam, soon :-)
I guess the question is $10K for nicer upper mids???
I think it really is just an EQ difference. Stam mic clones usually sound 90% like the microphones they're imitating and miss the natural compression thing some of the highest end microphones have, but this one is WAY closer. He did a great job, but I think that sort of speaks more to how insanely overpriced the original microphone is.
@@nate8854 I disagree. My 47 and 67 are 100% identical to me. The 87 is 95% and this one I would say 90% but I am still doing some adjustments to get it to 100%. This is just my opinion of my measurements and ears and frequency curves I ran everyday for years. Thanks for your comment Nate.
Too bad Stam takes FOREVER to send out product.
The Sony is better better clearity and better Sound effeckt in vocal
The Sound is more open
👍👍👍👍👍
This was very close...the sony isnt 8k- 9k better...
Raymond Smith It isn’t even 2k better
yeah the SA-800 sounds better
It get's no better than this.
STAM AUDIO. YOU POSTED THIS 10 YEARS AGO ON GEARSLUTZ ABOUT THE CURRENT SA-800 :
Stam Audio : I should clarify before this goes any further that we have not announced a Sony C800G replica.
This is a black version of the SA-47 body.
We have other priorities right now and not a lot of time on our hands.
Thanks for sharing this
SO. IS THIS THE SA 47 BODY STILL ?
That is correct. We ended up using the SA47 body in black and a new head grille based on the Sony C800G.
The sony has more heft throughout all the ranges. The weight of the low frequency response feels more substantive, with refined and pleasant clarity. The Stam definitely has representation within the low, mid, and high frequencies, but there is a very silky, fuller presence to the Sony. Stam should be commended for producing such an honest representation for these mics. Camila is a dream vocally and visually!
U must have elephant ears if you can really hear what you are saying. :-)))
@@BoxRecords What? You don't have big floppy ears? So why are you in the record business? Mr. Elephant Man
@@kennethgarcia25 I guess u did not see the smile of the end of my comment. And believe it or not I am in the recording business .. in fact I live from doing music for almost 20 years now. But I guess nowadays everybody is an expert.
@@kennethgarcia25 Anyway if my comment offends you please tell me and I delete it. Sorry if you thought I am making fun of you.. I was making fun of the way we end up talking about sound. To give so detailed impressions.
@@BoxRecords I assumed you were in music. I’m ok with your comment. Some people are more verbal than others. While you may not see things this way or try developing a more conscious and/or verbally nuanced way of describing sonic qualities and/or their effects on you, that does not make them less legitimate. Some prefer their gut or instinctual understanding and actually insist this way makes them more “artistic”. I’m actually glad you brought it up. I believe that there needs to be an interplay between both systems of the mind. Typically intuition must lead as we start by knowing what we like but don’t have a conscious understanding of. Over time we can try to become more conscious of what we like and do not like. That makes us more consistent over time as we explicitly quantify and qualify things with words and numbers. We learn to dial in a specific compressor or use a particular mic and preamp on a particular voice on a particular piece of music for some character we appreciate in the mix. In truth, only by sharing those opinions or observations do those descriptions become “standardized” within the culture and to ourselves. We may be led by our ears, but eventually we recognize the tendency for the right outcome to reside at a particular location on the dials and faders. Apparently, you are more operating from the gut and have had success keeping your process at that level. Whatever works!
the stam sa800 hurts my ears, its too sharp, dayummm
Very close
i prefer the Stam version - its richer sounding to me, the Sony sounds harsher in the upper mids
stam is better then sony
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whoever put her this close to those mics deserves to be fired :D she should be like 20-30 cm away
I guess I will have to fire myself!
So is that your hard and fast rule?
@@Wolfie99 I don't understand the question, I am sorry
Petr always use your ears, not eyes
@@dzezydzerk I think the camera angle makes it look closer than it really was (I was there). Regardless, it's an intimate soft performance.
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OMG! STAM is better than Legeng! What?!
Legeng?
@@Henzo1002 c800 is the legendary microphone
@@andivax because the legeng is Best
intelligibility was wayyyyyy easier with the Sony.
Nah, frequency response chart shows they are identical. Your mind is playing tricks on you
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