FUCK YEAH DUDE. Dragon Quest IV is my favourite of the series. Also, tropes are inevitable and nothing is wrong with a trope in and of itself. It's exactly like you said, it's what you do with the premise, and how you expand upon the trope that makes a game special. To ignore that, is to fundamentally misunderstand what a trope is. You got this shit figured out though. Solid video, my friend.
My opinion of " the straw that broke Enix's back" is that it was Enix's own fault. Let me put it this way. I was a huge DW fan. DW3 is still one of my favorite games of all time. I played each game over and over again, and loved all the info I could find out about the series. How did I, a big DW fan, find out about DW4? I saw it on a store shelf. I had no clue it was even coming out. Good work Enix.
thelhb Yuji Hori in a recent interview admitted it was due to never advertising the series. Even though it is a fantastic game the only reason why Dragon Quest VIII Journey of the Cursed King sold well in the west was due to it being packaged with a demo of Final Fantasy XII. If it wasn't for the demos of Final Fantasy VII and VIII that came with Tobal no.1 and Brave Fencer Mushashi respectively most likely Tobal no.2 and Samurai Legend Mushasi would probably not exist.
Same here! I think I was already playing final fantasy 2 when I stumbled on this glorious 4th installment to the series and had to pull the old nes back out. I feel like this there were old dudes in a board room who decided us north american were too fickle to get into a game with any depth or originality and somehow withheld this from being properly released.
Dragon Warrior IV was my first RPG when I was 13 (1993). I got it after trading my nes Indiana Jones game. Well worth the trade now looking back. My younger brother and I stayed up night after night during the summer to finish this game. I have never been able to get the same experience out of a game as i did in this one. Not even after playing the original Finial Fantasy which we played the following year. I still have the game cartridge to this day.
I just finished this game and I love it. Its extremely well done, and I mean flawless. I am so lucky to have played it, as I do group it in with all of the best jrpg experiences Ive ever had;and most of those occured for me as a teeanager (Im 35). Absolutely brilliant and a wonderful, funny and fantastic experience.
First RPG I ever played back on NES as a kid. So many fond memories. I even remember ordering the strategy guide through the mail and had to wait 6 weeks to get it lol. Still probably my favorite of all time.
I had gotten into the series by the time VII was released and I couldn't feel worse about how I acquired the game. During this time, I and my siblings were avid collectors of bootleg games we bought from our local flee market. Suffice to say, we bought quite the fair share of bootlegs that really only worked half the time (not that we particularly cared at the time haha). While I won't say that Dragon Warrior VII was _NOT_ available at our local retailers during this point in time, I _will_ say that, considering our location of Johannesburg South Africa, I highly doubt we would have found the game at retail (nor did we have any prior knowledge of the series up until that point). All this being said, again, what a shame that I could have been one of the those who supported VII's release because after recently delving back into the game, I am simply astonished at how addictive this series truly is. VII was my stepping stone and it has influenced me to try and acquire most of the main series titles whenever I possibly can. So far, I've found VI, IX and while I'm still on the lookout for a decently priced copy of VII in the wild, I've since ordered VII's 3DS remake and I can't wait to re-live it! As for the original 4 games in the series, I hope to play them at some point too, they look like they could potentially be my standout favourite NES games.
I’ve beaten it several times and have put hundreds of hours of playtime into it. Amazing game, amazing graphics, amazing music, amazing gameplay. Edit: The DS port.
Just came back from Japan and picking up all the 8/16-bit era Dragon Quest games, I found your video reviews to be top notch. Can't wait to play through the series. Keep up the good work!
Torneko's chapter is one of the best. It can feel repetitive but the way it works is very well executed. Torneko (aka you the player) is stuck doing the same boring job over and over again. The game never forces you to go out on adventure to find your way. It expects you to realize how boring your life is and get out there to explore by yourself. Since your in a weapon shop, warriors and travelers visit to buy stuff from you, which makes you feel like wanting to go on a adventure yourself. This character development Torneko experiences is all done JUST through its gameplay. It's incredible how well done it is. From this point on, the entire chapter is about how you the player, in Torneko's shoes, does whatever he/you can to move up in the merchant life. You'll do things like finding treasure to sell for a huge amount of money, buying a whole brand new house for your wife and kid where they then open up a shop, stocking said shop with items and equipment to be sold for even more money, hiring warriors to work for you in dungeons. And this is all just the gameplay mechanics you can do. A whole lot more story things happen in this chapter that makes Torneko an even more well known merchant. Even better is that Torneko ends up getting his own spin-off series of Mystery Dungeon games where he goes on even more adventures. He went from being a nobody working a boring, tedious job to becoming a star in his own games where he makes his own adventures and its all because YOU the player made it so.
I feel like I should mention that Trope is not a synonym for cliche. Every story is filled with tropes, whereas lots of stories are not filled with cliches. Basically, a cliche is an overused trope, tropes are not a bad thing, they just are.
Thanks Osto, I appreciate you saying so! I've been growing pretty quickly this year though, so I can't complain. Besides, I love having a tight-knit community where I can chill with people in live-streams, or respond to all of the comments. :)
The Original Dragon Warrior for the old NES was my very FIRST RPG and my FAVORITE series...And NOW 30 years later I love and enjoy these timeless classics from my childhood no less than I did then
I remember the copy you could rent at my local video store had an order form in the back of the instruction manual that you could cut out and mail to Enix with some money to get the official strategy guide. One year for my birthday, one of my friends actually sent away for the strategy guide from the rented copy and gave it to me as a gift. I should still have it somewhere. I also remember that if you played Dragon Warrior IV with the Game Genie with infinite hit points, you'd have to save and take it off towards the end of Chapter IV so Keeleon could actually defeat you (I remember I left it on once to see if it was possible to beat Keeleon and the battle went on for like 15 minutes before I gave up).
And thus concludes this summer's series review. It's been fun watching/learning about the early DQ games, a part of the series I have little to no experience with. I wish I had been able to catch more of the streams to watch your appreciation for the series deepen in real time. Looking forward to your next review, as always. Oh and btw, last time I did catch your stream we discussed Ys Origins. I am happy to report that the game has been pretty good so far! It seems to have a fair amount of replay value, as each of the three playable characters have their own alternate timeline of events. So while you do technically end up playing the same game multiple times, there are still major and minor puzzle, plot, and play-style differences that keeps the player interested. If I were to compare it to the other Ys games I've played up to this point (Ys Books 1& 2 and Oath in Felghana), I'd say that it definitely has the poorest enemy and locale variety (as the whole game takes place within a single tower), but in terms of the gameplay/soundtrack it's right up there with the others. The quality of the story is really dependant on the character you play though, and despite the name being "Ys Origins", I found the world building aspects of the plot to be fairly lacking.
It's definitely been a summer! It's also been a lot of fun hanging out with everyone in the live-streams, I'm glad you were able to make it when you could. Also, thanks for captioning my Dragon Warrior III review, that must have taken a lot of time! Good work man, I really appreciate that. :)
SuperDerek RPGs No problem. I felt like "Hey, I don't have the money to support via Patreon and I've missed the streams, so at least I can do this." I'll likely do more in the future, as some of my favourite videos of yours are still missing subtitles. I hope people find them useful. I really wish I knew who has been captioning the other videos. As far as I can tell, all the other submissions have been anonymous?
Oh I added all the others. They came from the scripts I write, which may or may not be accurate to what I actually said, so actually having someone transcribe them will be waay more accurate. But I wanted to make sure that there was at least something available for the hearing impaired. :)
My father past away and years later I went to play DW3 and to my surprise there was a save file with his name on it ...it was heart warming piking up where he left off ...to find a connection On a cassette I grew up watching him play and 15 years later he was still able to say hello. I had like 10 last time I saw him now I'm 30 ... now I love 8 bit rpg games.
Nothing to say about DW IV, just wanted to remark on the excellence of the writing, production and delivery of this review. You are good at this, brother!
This is the best RPG on the NES, and probably the most influential title in the Dragon Quest series along with III. It pains me that it is so obscure in the west, and honestly in part I blame the extremely uninspired boxart. Back then boxarts played a big role in wether or not we'd rent a game, the more appealing the best. While Dragon Warrior 1 and 2 have decent boxarts (even if I would have preferred they kept the Toriyama artwork... But hey, Square-Enix is apparently still reluctant to use Toriyama's art nowadays, can't blame Enix in the 80s before Dragon Ball came to the west), III and IV are just terrible. Generic swords. It didn't catch any kids eyes among the much more colorful and diverse boxarts of other games. The Japanese art with its colorful heroes and giant dragons would probably pick the audiences' curiosity a lot more.
Game Taco there's actually a remake for ps1,many people said it's the best and definitive edition of dragon quest 4...sad that was only release on Japan in the early 2000's.
You probably already know but yes, there was remakes of the Loto/Erdrick Trilogy(1-3) and Dragon Quest V and VI. The DS remakes of IV and V are pretty good, they stay true to the originals while updating the graphics and making tweaks such allowing full control over your party in the final chapter of IV where in the original you only had control over the hero in battle as well as adding bonus content. I can't say much about VI as while owning it, I haven't played it yet as I think my kid "borrowed it" and I keep forgetting to ask for it back.
I think if DQ V and VI had gotten SNES US releases they might have been as popular as Final Fantasy but the US just didn't seem into JRPGS during the NES era.
Final Fantasy was also heavily promoted in Nintendo Power with not only coverage in a regular issue but a full strategy guide. Dragon Warrior titles always just got a page in the back kind of thing.
27 yrs now And we still don't have those two release s of DQV and DQVI here properly. I don't even like A handheld game . I rather a big screen. Nintendo switch also don't have it. I'm not surprised. At this rate it's never happening
i have only completed dq8, i just picked up 7 on the 3ds, looking forward to playing it more. Looks like your game collection is expanding a lot are you planning a new room tour in the near future?
The collection is definitely growing. I do want to give a tour, but that requires getting everything looking juuust right, and between playing all these RPGs, who's got the time? xD
So, Derek, is Dragon Quest your favorite game series then? You seem to praise it a lot, even dedicating a whole series to reviewing all games in the franchise.
Hey Tartar, actually I can't say that it is. It is a series that I think commands a large following, and is vastly important in the creation of the genre. Before this retrospective, I had only ever played Dragon Quest VI and VIII, and only beat VIII.
So, * sigh * (here we go) Imagine a wide eyed kid who has only enjoyed Pokemon as a turn based game. No other game interested him. Then, somehow, (through word of mouth or luck) ended up with this game. He inserted the hero's name as his and then the character was called RAGNR. "Huh?" he thought. But then he realised that he was not the hero, nor were the other characters in the subsequent chapters. They were his friends, about to join him in an unforgettable adventure. The narrative grabbed him, despite the primitive graphics, and felt a sense of terror and danger from the villain, yet hopeful that with his friends, he could defeat the great evil The combat system took some to get used to, but wasn't as tedious or overwhelming as he had thought to be. Talking to NPCs, checking barrels and drawers for secrets, exploring unknown lands, *The Grind*(TM), everything grew on him. So did the characters. Heroic RAGNR, strong willed ALENA, caring Christo and Brey, brave sisters Mara and Nara, and the hearty Taloon. Alas, the kid could never finish the game, because Keelon was a very tough opponent, as well as the real life responsibilities taking priority. This game (along with Pokemon Blue) got me into the JRPGs and turn-based RPGs. Even though it's unfinished, I love it for that experience it gave me. *Thank You Derek, for reviewing this game.* My eyes got a little wet when the music started playing.
Keeleon was a huge pain when I fought him. The way I finally defeated him was to first, equip the hero with the miracle sword, which heals the hero after each strike. Have Brey cast Bikill, (hopefully) and double the hero's attack strength. Then have the hero cast... some spell I don't recall. It essentially blocks all magic, offensive and restorative. Then I just let everyone die as my hero swung away. It was a pretty epic fight of exchanging blows. The enemy would attack with magic, which would get blocked, then attack again physically, causing a bit of damage. The hero would then attack, damaging Keeleon, and healing himself in the same go. I really recommend picking the game back up when life settles back down. :)
SuperDerek RPGs Is there a sword like that?! Man, I dunno how many places I could not have explored, and missed it. Thanks for the strategy. I'll give it a try, sometime.
Yep! The Sword of Miracles is a sword you get from the Tiny Medal king guy in exchange for 6 tiny medals. It was really a life-saver if you can get it toward the beginning of Chapter 5.:)
I personally prefer the NES version over the DS version. The DS version might have more content, but I hate the heavy use of written dialect in the DS version. Seriously, the first line of dialogue in Chapter 1 is: "His Majesty is aboot tae make an announcement tae youse all. Simmer doon an' listen noo."
Yeah, that dialect shit was real dumb, especially since denizens of a castle should be speaking "The Queen's English" as it were. Just a boneheaded move all around. Luckily the dialects aren't nearly as bad in the rest of the game.
Miss Fuzzbottom - bwahahaha, the dialogue isn’t for everyone. It sometimes gets straining reading it for extended periods of time. I do love the writing and all the personality the written dialogue has though, both versions are still quite playable based on preference.
I’m playing this right now lol. This is probably my fave DW game. I didn’t play V til years later so the NES version was one of my longest played as to me at the time it was the last DW game. Love your perspective on this.
Dragon Quest 5 will always be my favorite. it totally surprised me with the story, game play exploration, and especially the music. I hope you do a review of it in the near future. great video bro.
DW4 is the game that changed my life. I have a cute story as to how I got it and why that I’ll type if anyone feels like reading it lol. But this is to this day, 27 or so odd years later, still my all time favorite game.
DQ4 is a masterpiece, but I do like DQ3 better. Mainly it's the job system, the various cultures you encounter, and the way it ties up the original trilogy. It just blew me away back then. DQ4 is still top tier and the remake is fantastic.
Will you play and review Dragon Quest Builders the sequel to Dragon Warrior 1? It was actually a surprise to me that it was a direct sequel. Anyway good vid.
Enix did zero advertising and took nearly 3 years to get the North American release to market. By then Final Fantasy 4 had been out on SNES in NA for a year and consumers had largely moved on to the newer hardware. They screwed up REALLY bad lol.
I cannot wait to get the rest of the Dragon Warrior games for the NES, especially 4. Great series, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the rest some day!
This is one of my favorite RPGs maybe even my favorite of all. SNES had some good RPGs but I think this wins because it has such good scaling from the beginning to end.
I just started playing DW4 again yesterday. I played it as a kid and loved it. I'm on chapter 2 now and I'm loving it as an adult. IT's on my list of top games ever along with the Baldurs gate series. I still enjoy it and the music is excellent.
I love the DS remake. It let you control all the characters in chapter 5 for one thing, and even if the AI does well by itself, I still prefer to control them. I was completely caught up in the story and eager for all these characters to meet up and save the day together.
Yes, party control is much better. Even if the game plays fine without it, it still means you barely control what's going on in fights, and unlike Persona 3 you don't have any wild card ability that gives you a particular advantage over other characters.
Are you warming yourself up for the release of dragon quest 11? Im new to your channel and I find your reviews very entertaining. Im keen to see more dragon quest reviews in the future, especially for 8 which is the only one I have had the chance to play.
I'm about 5 hours into DW2 right now. So tempted to skip to 4 after watching this but I'm gonna power through so I can see how everything evolved and appreciate the whole series better. Back to the grind!
I was a little kid, just barely able to make sense of the dialogue, when I stumbled into Final Fantasy on the NES, and then immediately followed the trail to the only other Final Fantasy at the rental store, Final Fantasy 3 (6 SNES) and my life was never the same - and significantly better. I always thought it was kind of bizarre that japanese RPG's in that vein weren't much more popular in the USA, and why these companies were so hesitant to localize them. The sales being so low surprised me from the time when I first got the internet on a 56k telephone modem (which was the first time most gamers even knew about these titles that went unreleased in the USA) - because my every metric, my experience with games like these was among the most amazing experiences I'd ever had. That's STILL true today in some cases.
Fun Fact: Koichi Sugiyama also composed Godzilla vs Biollante, which gives me one of my favorite renditions of "Godzilla's March" apart from Akira Ifukube's original.
I'm 40 years now, been playing games since I was 5. But I still have yet to understand why so many people love Turned-based & random-battle based games. I've tried quite a few and I honestly CANNOT get why they r fun. Is there a game that can make me like them? I feel like I missed a lot because of this. (Fyi, I love games like Secret Of Mana and the Y's series..)
In Chapter 5 in the NES version you control the actions of the hero and the other party members are given a choice of different battle tactics. That took it down a notch to me, despite the review above saying it didn't. Still a great game. 3 is the best NES game overall though. The whole class system gives it variety and replay value, a wide open world keeps it from being linear, and the game gives you lots of ways to shore up your resources so you don't often feel like you're struggling. I liked DW4, but I loved DW3. Dragon Warrior 1 was my first with the nintendo power sub. Also loved it despite its flaws. Dragon warrior 2.....I also like and can replay, And ill say this, I usually do not mind grinding and enjoy that aspect of games USUALLY, but its the JRPG equivalent of homework in this case. not playtesting due to rushing production bit them in the arse here.
I am currently replaying this game on my phone. I loved it back in the 90s on the NES. Wish I'd actually owned a copy, but never managed to buy it. Just rented it. Fun little story, though, I rented it once, completed it, then months later convinced my parents to let me rent it again. My save data from my previous rental was still on there, and someone had even gotten me some hard to find gear I'd missed.
I know why I wasn't buying Enix games back then, even though they were one of my favorite developers. I was just a broke ass little kid, rarely with more than $5 to spend on anything. The few games I got to pick out on NES ended up being Castlevania 2 (which I traded with another kid years later for 3), Zelda 2, and Mario 3. I rented and borrowed many games, Dragon Warrior included. Eventually I picked out Actraiser 2. By the time I was 15 and working and able to buy my own stuff it was PS1, FF7, CSotN, Legacy of Kain, and all that other early PS1 stuff. Bought all the DW I could get my hands on since then, but for a while there, right when I could have bought all their games, they didn't release any. Sad.
Thank you, Derek! Not just for this wonderful review, but also what you said about tropes/cliches. I'll be honest, I am tired of people using the word cliche, especially when they want to nitpick. I feel like the word is just thrown around, just complaining about something we've seen before. But like you said, it should be the execution that's considered.
Any time, KlonoaDream. I think that some people just throw the word around in a rather lazy way, as a way to disguise a circular argument (intentionally or not). Sometimes people use the word cliché interchangeably with "a category I put games into that have a feature I dislike." :)
I use to think that it really exploded in the "32-bit era" right down to point where "Square Soft" actually started rereleasing their "SNES" titles on the "PS ONE"
Absolutely, PlayStation is where they exploded for a long while and became more mainstream. But I still think the SNES was a golden era, if only for the quality titles that we ended up receiving over the game's lifespan. They were still pretty niche, but games like FFVI and Chrono Trigger, and of course, Terranigma, all feel like apex titles. :)
I totally agree. Normally I would hate that I couldn’t control the rest of the party in chapter 5 but the AI is pretty good so I’m cool with it. You are awesome Derek. Thanks for being you
I was an NES kid and we only rented the SNES a handful of times. It's a real shame the Dragon 'West' Warrior series didn't continue on into the SNES, but then perhaps Final Fantasy wouldn't be the icon of JRPGs it is now, especially with the FF7 revolution on the PS, or where I got it, the PC. I never really bothered with the Final Fantasy games on the NES nor the SNES, and though I know many people remember them very fondly, to me they seemed like a poor substitute at the time and were passed over many times.
Not bothering to localize these games worldwide (only a few RPGs got the PAL treatment prior to FFVII coming along and breaking that door down) also probably hurt their sales.
DidneyLehnd That's a chicken or the egg scenario, did they not sell well because there wasn't a demand for it? Or did they not sell well because there wasn't a supply for it? I think it's the prior, as companies did try and sell RPGs in the west and they failed to take off.
@@Sawngawkuh I wish they would but Dragon Quest V was released near 27 yrs ago and VI 24 yrs ago. I doubt they will now. There's a movie coming out based on V and the story is so amazing
@@wschippr1 There wasn't much of a demand because not many were really brought over in those PAL regions in the first place. Not many companies actually tried to see if those territories would get into such games beyond a small handful, and none of the games of those that did make an attempt were notable IPs. I think it's just an amalgam of reasons at the time. Uncertainty, dealing with numerous translations, any conversion business, and so on.
Fantastic review of this classic NES series! I've only played the first long ago. I was more into the Final Fantasy series back then. I've always liked Amano's art over Toiyama's, and Uematsu's music over Sugiyama's. I'll have to at least give DQ4 a shot, as it looks very fun.
Uematsu really does give Sugiyama a run for his money, that's for sure. Both are great composers. That said, I was more of a Tetsuya Nomura art kinda guy, but I understand that's not exactly to everybody's taste. :)
Now onward to some Falcom games! Hope to see Legend of Heroes and YS done sometime in the future since both series don't get enough love on UA-cam sadly :( You could do YS fairly quickly since most of their titles are under 15 hours long but the Legend of Heroes will be a mountain of a task as the last few games released here in the states are 50 to 70+ hours each but it's such a wonderful series that deserves much more love!
It's called the Mystery Dungeon series. Though most new entries have been in the Spin-Off series called Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. It's a really fun series.
What's really interesting about Taloon is that despite his appearance as a middle aged fight man, if you give him a Cautery Sword, he's a force to be reckoned with.
I played DW 1-3 thanks to my grandma. Dragon Warrior III is my favorite. However, she didn't buy IV, saying it had chapters. I have DQ IV on DS now and... Got stuck at cloud/sky. I didn't know where to go. Definitely will need to new game when I revisit.
NES and SNES RPGs probably didn't sell well because the cost of the carts were absurd. I remember saving up $70 for what was then Final Fantasy 3. Like how parents often bought the cheaper video game console for their kid they also bought them cheaper games.
My brother, who's a retro-gamer, introduced me to DW IV when I was younger. I've loved RPG's ever since
Did you finish the game? I did a long time ago. I wish they would reboot it on PS4
I remember this game very good.. I remember all the characters
Your brother is a nice guy
THAT FOREHEAD ON SUPER DEREK
you could phuking crack an egg on that thing
hahahahah
FUCK YEAH DUDE. Dragon Quest IV is my favourite of the series.
Also, tropes are inevitable and nothing is wrong with a trope in and of itself. It's exactly like you said, it's what you do with the premise, and how you expand upon the trope that makes a game special. To ignore that, is to fundamentally misunderstand what a trope is. You got this shit figured out though.
Solid video, my friend.
The monster design continues to be masterful
*shows a picture of a Metal Slime *
Lol, nice video! I love this game too!
Nat. P. - 7:00
Yeah I was kinda wondering why that was the monster he put on-screen at that moment.
My opinion of " the straw that broke Enix's back" is that it was Enix's own fault. Let me put it this way. I was a huge DW fan. DW3 is still one of my favorite games of all time. I played each game over and over again, and loved all the info I could find out about the series. How did I, a big DW fan, find out about DW4? I saw it on a store shelf. I had no clue it was even coming out. Good work Enix.
thelhb Yuji Hori in a recent interview admitted it was due to never advertising the series. Even though it is a fantastic game the only reason why Dragon Quest VIII Journey of the Cursed King sold well in the west was due to it being packaged with a demo of Final Fantasy XII. If it wasn't for the demos of Final Fantasy VII and VIII that came with Tobal no.1 and Brave Fencer Mushashi respectively most likely Tobal no.2 and Samurai Legend Mushasi would probably not exist.
Same here! I think I was already playing final fantasy 2 when I stumbled on this glorious 4th installment to the series and had to pull the old nes back out. I feel like this there were old dudes in a board room who decided us north american were too fickle to get into a game with any depth or originality and somehow withheld this from being properly released.
This is pretty much exactly what happened to Chrono Trigger DS too, I had no idea it existed until I saw it on a shelf years after it released.
@@Grubbbee Yeah it definitely didn't help that it came out in the US already more than a year after the SNES.
@@dr.velious5411 peasant
bro u have a real genuine demeanor to you which is kind of refreshing in a sea of in yo face youtubers
Dragon Warrior IV was my first RPG when I was 13 (1993). I got it after trading my nes Indiana Jones game. Well worth the trade now looking back. My younger brother and I stayed up night after night during the summer to finish this game. I have never been able to get the same experience out of a game as i did in this one. Not even after playing the original Finial Fantasy which we played the following year. I still have the game cartridge to this day.
I`m the same way bro. I`ve been an hardcore gamer all my life and I never got an experience like DW IV
Loved this coverage of the series that got me into RPG's over 25 years ago. You're doing a great job with this channel...keep up the good work!
Thanks so much El Tron! I only wish I had discovered this series that long ago. I didn't play my first DQ until VIII came out. :)
God that FIGHT THEME for Dragon Warrior IV is pure GOLD! Damn near makes me weep.
The name is also pretty hilarious, "Battle for the Glory ~ Deathfight"
Which one? There's two. I loved both of them, but especially the Mara and Nara one
Just discovered you...watching the backlog of all these classics
I love it
Perfect timing. Just sat down on the toilet. Thanks SuperDerek!
Perfect timing, TokyoDriving, I just released my review! ;)
+Max Johnson that's OK, I'm commenting on the toilet. The the porcelain gods unite us!
Toilet gang
Hoo hoo
TokyoDriving - dammit you guys, that’s hilarious. I just sat down myself hahaha
Tmi
I just finished this game and I love it. Its extremely well done, and I mean flawless. I am so lucky to have played it, as I do group it in with all of the best jrpg experiences Ive ever had;and most of those occured for me as a teeanager (Im 35). Absolutely brilliant and a wonderful, funny and fantastic experience.
First RPG I ever played back on NES as a kid. So many fond memories. I even remember ordering the strategy guide through the mail and had to wait 6 weeks to get it lol.
Still probably my favorite of all time.
I had gotten into the series by the time VII was released and I couldn't feel worse about how I acquired the game. During this time, I and my siblings were avid collectors of bootleg games we bought from our local flee market. Suffice to say, we bought quite the fair share of bootlegs that really only worked half the time (not that we particularly cared at the time haha).
While I won't say that Dragon Warrior VII was _NOT_ available at our local retailers during this point in time, I _will_ say that, considering our location of Johannesburg South Africa, I highly doubt we would have found the game at retail (nor did we have any prior knowledge of the series up until that point). All this being said, again, what a shame that I could have been one of the those who supported VII's release because after recently delving back into the game, I am simply astonished at how addictive this series truly is. VII was my stepping stone and it has influenced me to try and acquire most of the main series titles whenever I possibly can. So far, I've found VI, IX and while I'm still on the lookout for a decently priced copy of VII in the wild, I've since ordered VII's 3DS remake and I can't wait to re-live it!
As for the original 4 games in the series, I hope to play them at some point too, they look like they could potentially be my standout favourite NES games.
VIII is truly a blast, I hope you enjoy it when you finally get your hands on a copy. :)
I’ve beaten it several times and have put hundreds of hours of playtime into it. Amazing game, amazing graphics, amazing music, amazing gameplay. Edit: The DS port.
You're a beast for managing to play through all of these consecutively without going insane. Amazing review!
Thanks Tom! :D
Just came back from Japan and picking up all the 8/16-bit era Dragon Quest games, I found your video reviews to be top notch. Can't wait to play through the series.
Keep up the good work!
Torneko's chapter is one of the best. It can feel repetitive but the way it works is very well executed. Torneko (aka you the player) is stuck doing the same boring job over and over again. The game never forces you to go out on adventure to find your way. It expects you to realize how boring your life is and get out there to explore by yourself. Since your in a weapon shop, warriors and travelers visit to buy stuff from you, which makes you feel like wanting to go on a adventure yourself. This character development Torneko experiences is all done JUST through its gameplay. It's incredible how well done it is.
From this point on, the entire chapter is about how you the player, in Torneko's shoes, does whatever he/you can to move up in the merchant life. You'll do things like finding treasure to sell for a huge amount of money, buying a whole brand new house for your wife and kid where they then open up a shop, stocking said shop with items and equipment to be sold for even more money, hiring warriors to work for you in dungeons. And this is all just the gameplay mechanics you can do. A whole lot more story things happen in this chapter that makes Torneko an even more well known merchant.
Even better is that Torneko ends up getting his own spin-off series of Mystery Dungeon games where he goes on even more adventures. He went from being a nobody working a boring, tedious job to becoming a star in his own games where he makes his own adventures and its all because YOU the player made it so.
He was my favorite part of the DS remake. His chapter was so fresh and it was fun to scheme ways to make money.
Just found your channel. Loving the videos so far! Amazing work.
Thanks! Glad you like them! :)
DW4 is my all-time favorite game. I feel a real affinity to the characters, the sounds, the music and the lore. It's a fantastic game.
I feel like I should mention that Trope is not a synonym for cliche. Every story is filled with tropes, whereas lots of stories are not filled with cliches. Basically, a cliche is an overused trope, tropes are not a bad thing, they just are.
Dragon Warrior 4 is one of the best NES RPGs, has the most loveable cast, and is still one of my favorites. I highly, highly recommend it.
Hey man, just wanted to say i love your channel and i think you deserve more recognition. This is one of the secret best gaming channels out there.
Thanks Osto, I appreciate you saying so! I've been growing pretty quickly this year though, so I can't complain. Besides, I love having a tight-knit community where I can chill with people in live-streams, or respond to all of the comments. :)
The Original Dragon Warrior for the old NES was my very FIRST RPG and my FAVORITE series...And NOW 30 years later I love and enjoy these timeless classics from my childhood no less than I did then
SuperDerek, love watching your videos. They're way better than everyone else's out there. You RAWK!! Keep up the awesome work.
I remember the copy you could rent at my local video store had an order form in the back of the instruction manual that you could cut out and mail to Enix with some money to get the official strategy guide. One year for my birthday, one of my friends actually sent away for the strategy guide from the rented copy and gave it to me as a gift. I should still have it somewhere.
I also remember that if you played Dragon Warrior IV with the Game Genie with infinite hit points, you'd have to save and take it off towards the end of Chapter IV so Keeleon could actually defeat you (I remember I left it on once to see if it was possible to beat Keeleon and the battle went on for like 15 minutes before I gave up).
And thus concludes this summer's series review. It's been fun watching/learning about the early DQ games, a part of the series I have little to no experience with. I wish I had been able to catch more of the streams to watch your appreciation for the series deepen in real time. Looking forward to your next review, as always.
Oh and btw, last time I did catch your stream we discussed Ys Origins. I am happy to report that the game has been pretty good so far! It seems to have a fair amount of replay value, as each of the three playable characters have their own alternate timeline of events. So while you do technically end up playing the same game multiple times, there are still major and minor puzzle, plot, and play-style differences that keeps the player interested.
If I were to compare it to the other Ys games I've played up to this point (Ys Books 1& 2 and Oath in Felghana), I'd say that it definitely has the poorest enemy and locale variety (as the whole game takes place within a single tower), but in terms of the gameplay/soundtrack it's right up there with the others. The quality of the story is really dependant on the character you play though, and despite the name being "Ys Origins", I found the world building aspects of the plot to be fairly lacking.
It's definitely been a summer! It's also been a lot of fun hanging out with everyone in the live-streams, I'm glad you were able to make it when you could. Also, thanks for captioning my Dragon Warrior III review, that must have taken a lot of time! Good work man, I really appreciate that. :)
SuperDerek RPGs No problem. I felt like "Hey, I don't have the money to support via Patreon and I've missed the streams, so at least I can do this." I'll likely do more in the future, as some of my favourite videos of yours are still missing subtitles. I hope people find them useful.
I really wish I knew who has been captioning the other videos. As far as I can tell, all the other submissions have been anonymous?
Oh I added all the others. They came from the scripts I write, which may or may not be accurate to what I actually said, so actually having someone transcribe them will be waay more accurate. But I wanted to make sure that there was at least something available for the hearing impaired. :)
SuperDerek RPGs Oh wow, really? Well hey, I can totally do more of this. Might save you some time. =)
My father past away and years later I went to play DW3 and to my surprise there was a save file with his name on it ...it was heart warming piking up where he left off ...to find a connection On a cassette I grew up watching him play and 15 years later he was still able to say hello. I had like 10 last time I saw him now I'm 30 ... now I love 8 bit rpg games.
Nothing to say about DW IV, just wanted to remark on the excellence of the writing, production and delivery of this review. You are good at this, brother!
This is the best RPG on the NES, and probably the most influential title in the Dragon Quest series along with III. It pains me that it is so obscure in the west, and honestly in part I blame the extremely uninspired boxart. Back then boxarts played a big role in wether or not we'd rent a game, the more appealing the best. While Dragon Warrior 1 and 2 have decent boxarts (even if I would have preferred they kept the Toriyama artwork... But hey, Square-Enix is apparently still reluctant to use Toriyama's art nowadays, can't blame Enix in the 80s before Dragon Ball came to the west), III and IV are just terrible. Generic swords. It didn't catch any kids eyes among the much more colorful and diverse boxarts of other games. The Japanese art with its colorful heroes and giant dragons would probably pick the audiences' curiosity a lot more.
From watching your live streams to the final video this was well worth the wait :D
Thanks Metal! And thanks for keeping me company during the streams too! :)
So what are your thoughts on the DS remasters? Were there DQ games on SNES? I have so many questions 😫
Game Taco there's actually a remake for ps1,many people said it's the best and definitive edition of dragon quest 4...sad that was only release on Japan in the early 2000's.
You probably already know but yes, there was remakes of the Loto/Erdrick Trilogy(1-3) and Dragon Quest V and VI. The DS remakes of IV and V are pretty good, they stay true to the originals while updating the graphics and making tweaks such allowing full control over your party in the final chapter of IV where in the original you only had control over the hero in battle as well as adding bonus content. I can't say much about VI as while owning it, I haven't played it yet as I think my kid "borrowed it" and I keep forgetting to ask for it back.
@@The_Real_DCT Did you ever ask for it back yet? Lol
I really enjoy your reviews man! Keep them coming.
Thanks Reno, I'll do my best! :)
This was my favorite RPG for the NES. And I love the cover art. That sword is beautiful.
I think if DQ V and VI had gotten SNES US releases they might have been as popular as Final Fantasy but the US just didn't seem into JRPGS during the NES era.
It could of hugely benefited from the consoles better hardware.
Final Fantasy was also heavily promoted in Nintendo Power with not only coverage in a regular issue but a full strategy guide. Dragon Warrior titles always just got a page in the back kind of thing.
27 yrs now And we still don't have those two release s of DQV and DQVI here properly. I don't even like A handheld game . I rather a big screen. Nintendo switch also don't have it. I'm not surprised.
At this rate it's never happening
I love the chapter system of this game. It's like getting 5 RPG's in one.
i have only completed dq8, i just picked up 7 on the 3ds, looking forward to playing it more. Looks like your game collection is expanding a lot are you planning a new room tour in the near future?
The collection is definitely growing. I do want to give a tour, but that requires getting everything looking juuust right, and between playing all these RPGs, who's got the time? xD
Excellent work & very fun to watch like always. Curious what game is going to be next...on the game collection.
This was one of the my favorites for the NES. I'm wait for a come back
As always man, great review. This year I was able to pickup DW3 & DW4 for an amazing price so finally after all these years have all 4 for the NES.
That's really exciting! 3 and 4 were both a blast!
So, Derek, is Dragon Quest your favorite game series then? You seem to praise it a lot, even dedicating a whole series to reviewing all games in the franchise.
Hey Tartar, actually I can't say that it is. It is a series that I think commands a large following, and is vastly important in the creation of the genre. Before this retrospective, I had only ever played Dragon Quest VI and VIII, and only beat VIII.
SuperDerek RPGs, then what IS your favorite series?
I had dw4 as a kid and played the hell out of it. My nes cart still has a save file with all the characters maxed
So, * sigh * (here we go)
Imagine a wide eyed kid who has only enjoyed Pokemon as a turn based game. No other game interested him. Then, somehow, (through word of mouth or luck) ended up with this game.
He inserted the hero's name as his and then the character was called RAGNR. "Huh?" he thought. But then he realised that he was not the hero, nor were the other characters in the subsequent chapters. They were his friends, about to join him in an unforgettable adventure.
The narrative grabbed him, despite the primitive graphics, and felt a sense of terror and danger from the villain, yet hopeful that with his friends, he could defeat the great evil
The combat system took some to get used to, but wasn't as tedious or overwhelming as he had thought to be. Talking to NPCs, checking barrels and drawers for secrets, exploring unknown lands, *The Grind*(TM), everything grew on him.
So did the characters. Heroic RAGNR, strong willed ALENA, caring Christo and Brey, brave sisters Mara and Nara, and the hearty Taloon.
Alas, the kid could never finish the game, because Keelon was a very tough opponent, as well as the real life responsibilities taking priority.
This game (along with Pokemon Blue) got me into the JRPGs and turn-based RPGs. Even though it's unfinished, I love it for that experience it gave me.
*Thank You Derek, for reviewing this game.*
My eyes got a little wet when the music started playing.
Keeleon was a huge pain when I fought him. The way I finally defeated him was to first, equip the hero with the miracle sword, which heals the hero after each strike. Have Brey cast Bikill, (hopefully) and double the hero's attack strength. Then have the hero cast... some spell I don't recall. It essentially blocks all magic, offensive and restorative. Then I just let everyone die as my hero swung away. It was a pretty epic fight of exchanging blows. The enemy would attack with magic, which would get blocked, then attack again physically, causing a bit of damage. The hero would then attack, damaging Keeleon, and healing himself in the same go.
I really recommend picking the game back up when life settles back down. :)
SuperDerek RPGs Is there a sword like that?! Man, I dunno how many places I could not have explored, and missed it.
Thanks for the strategy. I'll give it a try, sometime.
Yep! The Sword of Miracles is a sword you get from the Tiny Medal king guy in exchange for 6 tiny medals. It was really a life-saver if you can get it toward the beginning of Chapter 5.:)
I personally prefer the NES version over the DS version. The DS version might have more content, but I hate the heavy use of written dialect in the DS version. Seriously, the first line of dialogue in Chapter 1 is:
"His Majesty is aboot tae make an announcement tae youse all. Simmer doon an' listen noo."
Oh wow, that doesn't exactly read easily... Yuck.
MasterStryfe I thought it was because he was using cockney English.
Yeah, that dialect shit was real dumb, especially since denizens of a castle should be speaking "The Queen's English" as it were. Just a boneheaded move all around. Luckily the dialects aren't nearly as bad in the rest of the game.
Miss Fuzzbottom - bwahahaha, the dialogue isn’t for everyone. It sometimes gets straining reading it for extended periods of time. I do love the writing and all the personality the written dialogue has though, both versions are still quite playable based on preference.
I regard Dragon Warrior/Quest IV as the best of the series. It's the chapter system that makes this game such a gem for anyone's RPG collection.
I’m playing this right now lol. This is probably my fave DW game. I didn’t play V til years later so the NES version was one of my longest played as to me at the time it was the last DW game. Love your perspective on this.
Dragon Quest 5 will always be my favorite. it totally surprised me with the story, game play exploration, and especially the music. I hope you do a review of it in the near future. great video bro.
Did you play it in Japanese in the 90s or only get it on DS or mobile like most of us?
@@KeithustusI mean, it was also translated in 2001
Great timing on getting this out. Smack between the releases of dragon quest VII on the 3DS and DQ Builders on the ps4.
Now i'm curious how these measure to the remakes.
Loved your explanation of RPG tropes! I feel the same.
It's amazing to see just how much of an Ultima influence there is with the boats, air balloon, and environment
Great video man! Looking forward to your next review!
Thanks! Gonna start playing the next game up for review pretty soon! :)
DW4 is the game that changed my life. I have a cute story as to how I got it and why that I’ll type if anyone feels like reading it lol. But this is to this day, 27 or so odd years later, still my all time favorite game.
I know it’s been a while, but I would love to hear
DQ4 is a masterpiece, but I do like DQ3 better. Mainly it's the job system, the various cultures you encounter, and the way it ties up the original trilogy. It just blew me away back then. DQ4 is still top tier and the remake is fantastic.
Will you play and review Dragon Quest Builders the sequel to Dragon Warrior 1? It was actually a surprise to me that it was a direct sequel.
Anyway good vid.
I may. I have a PS4, but I've also got a lot of other games that I already own that I could review first... We'll see. ;)
Enix did zero advertising and took nearly 3 years to get the North American release to market. By then Final Fantasy 4 had been out on SNES in NA for a year and consumers had largely moved on to the newer hardware. They screwed up REALLY bad lol.
Nice Review! Is it possible to teleport out of the Dark World or are you locked? (NES Version)
This is your best video that I have seen! You definitely have me wanting to play this game. I'll need to check it out on my Wii emulator.
Thanks Westipoo! ~
You're Fricking amazing! Great job I'll definitely be waiting for more videos
I cannot wait to get the rest of the Dragon Warrior games for the NES, especially 4. Great series, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the rest some day!
I can't wait to dig into them either! Well... I mean, I can wait, but I can't wait until I'm mentally prepared to tackle them some day! ;)
Not enough time, too many games. (ー。ー)
This is one of my favorite RPGs maybe even my favorite of all. SNES had some good RPGs but I think this wins because it has such good scaling from the beginning to end.
I just started playing DW4 again yesterday. I played it as a kid and loved it. I'm on chapter 2 now and I'm loving it as an adult. IT's on my list of top games ever along with the Baldurs gate series. I still enjoy it and the music is excellent.
I love the DS remake. It let you control all the characters in chapter 5 for one thing, and even if the AI does well by itself, I still prefer to control them. I was completely caught up in the story and eager for all these characters to meet up and save the day together.
Yes, party control is much better. Even if the game plays fine without it, it still means you barely control what's going on in fights, and unlike Persona 3 you don't have any wild card ability that gives you a particular advantage over other characters.
IamLaTerry you can control all parties throughout the game in the ds remake?
Are you warming yourself up for the release of dragon quest 11?
Im new to your channel and I find your reviews very entertaining. Im keen to see more dragon quest reviews in the future, especially for 8 which is the only one I have had the chance to play.
MATH iv only played
9, 6 and 1
I plan on playing them all eventually though
I recently snagged a preowned DQIV on ds which made me very happy.
I'm about 5 hours into DW2 right now. So tempted to skip to 4 after watching this but I'm gonna power through so I can see how everything evolved and appreciate the whole series better. Back to the grind!
I was a little kid, just barely able to make sense of the dialogue, when I stumbled into Final Fantasy on the NES, and then immediately followed the trail to the only other Final Fantasy at the rental store, Final Fantasy 3 (6 SNES) and my life was never the same - and significantly better. I always thought it was kind of bizarre that japanese RPG's in that vein weren't much more popular in the USA, and why these companies were so hesitant to localize them. The sales being so low surprised me from the time when I first got the internet on a 56k telephone modem (which was the first time most gamers even knew about these titles that went unreleased in the USA) - because my every metric, my experience with games like these was among the most amazing experiences I'd ever had. That's STILL true today in some cases.
Dragon Warrior IV is a legendary and amazing game.
I had an absolute blast playing it as a kid in the early 90s.
I'm honestly surprised how few people talk about how good this one is!
Your "TV effect" is starting to look better. There, I said it...now pay me what we agreed upon.
Fun Fact: Koichi Sugiyama also composed Godzilla vs Biollante, which gives me one of my favorite renditions of "Godzilla's March" apart from Akira Ifukube's original.
I'm 40 years now, been playing games since I was 5. But I still have yet to understand why so many people love Turned-based & random-battle based games. I've tried quite a few and I honestly CANNOT get why they r fun. Is there a game that can make me like them? I feel like I missed a lot because of this. (Fyi, I love games like Secret Of Mana and the Y's series..)
In Chapter 5 in the NES version you control the actions of the hero and the other party members are given a choice of different battle tactics. That took it down a notch to me, despite the review above saying it didn't. Still a great game.
3 is the best NES game overall though. The whole class system gives it variety and replay value, a wide open world keeps it from being linear, and the game gives you lots of ways to shore up your resources so you don't often feel like you're struggling.
I liked DW4, but I loved DW3.
Dragon Warrior 1 was my first with the nintendo power sub. Also loved it despite its flaws.
Dragon warrior 2.....I also like and can replay, And ill say this, I usually do not mind grinding and enjoy that aspect of games USUALLY, but its the JRPG equivalent of homework in this case. not playtesting due to rushing production bit them in the arse here.
I am currently replaying this game on my phone. I loved it back in the 90s on the NES. Wish I'd actually owned a copy, but never managed to buy it. Just rented it.
Fun little story, though, I rented it once, completed it, then months later convinced my parents to let me rent it again. My save data from my previous rental was still on there, and someone had even gotten me some hard to find gear I'd missed.
I know why I wasn't buying Enix games back then, even though they were one of my favorite developers. I was just a broke ass little kid, rarely with more than $5 to spend on anything. The few games I got to pick out on NES ended up being Castlevania 2 (which I traded with another kid years later for 3), Zelda 2, and Mario 3. I rented and borrowed many games, Dragon Warrior included. Eventually I picked out Actraiser 2. By the time I was 15 and working and able to buy my own stuff it was PS1, FF7, CSotN, Legacy of Kain, and all that other early PS1 stuff. Bought all the DW I could get my hands on since then, but for a while there, right when I could have bought all their games, they didn't release any. Sad.
Thank you, Derek! Not just for this wonderful review, but also what you said about tropes/cliches. I'll be honest, I am tired of people using the word cliche, especially when they want to nitpick. I feel like the word is just thrown around, just complaining about something we've seen before. But like you said, it should be the execution that's considered.
Any time, KlonoaDream. I think that some people just throw the word around in a rather lazy way, as a way to disguise a circular argument (intentionally or not). Sometimes people use the word cliché interchangeably with "a category I put games into that have a feature I dislike." :)
My second favorite Dragon Warrior/Quest game, absolutely love everything about it!
Second only to VIII? :)
Yep :D
I'm betting that by now it's your third, with 11 as the best?
Your right it is the best rpg on the nes. It is the best rpg period.
So what are your seven (six?) deadly sins?
The only dragon warriors I have played are 1 and 8. Good coverage sir! This looks like an interesting game
I really enjoy these videos.
9:39 1. JRPG golden age? There was one after the SNES Era?
The SNES was home to the first, PSX had the second. :)
will you do a fallout game soon
I use to think that it really exploded in the "32-bit era" right down to point where "Square Soft" actually started rereleasing their "SNES" titles on the "PS ONE"
Oh I will. Probably starting with 3 though, and working my way forward from there, since I generally don't review PC titles. :)
Absolutely, PlayStation is where they exploded for a long while and became more mainstream. But I still think the SNES was a golden era, if only for the quality titles that we ended up receiving over the game's lifespan. They were still pretty niche, but games like FFVI and Chrono Trigger, and of course, Terranigma, all feel like apex titles. :)
Great again Derek ! Been looking forward to this Video , am glad you liked the game ^^
Have a great day!
Thanks Eel Boy! I'm glad you liked the review! :)
I totally agree. Normally I would hate that I couldn’t control the rest of the party in chapter 5 but the AI is pretty good so I’m cool with it. You are awesome Derek. Thanks for being you
great as always mate good review you put this one together really well
Thanks Jared! :D
Awesome Review dude
Can you do a xenogears review ???
Man I wish the DS copy was still $20 CIB I was forced to sell my copy and wish I could afford to get a replacement 😰
I was an NES kid and we only rented the SNES a handful of times. It's a real shame the Dragon 'West' Warrior series didn't continue on into the SNES, but then perhaps Final Fantasy wouldn't be the icon of JRPGs it is now, especially with the FF7 revolution on the PS, or where I got it, the PC. I never really bothered with the Final Fantasy games on the NES nor the SNES, and though I know many people remember them very fondly, to me they seemed like a poor substitute at the time and were passed over many times.
This is my favorite game on the NES.
I remember very well why rpgs didn't sell in the west:
"If I want to read I read a book"
And I heard that for years from guys who didn't play RPGs.
Not bothering to localize these games worldwide (only a few RPGs got the PAL treatment prior to FFVII coming along and breaking that door down) also probably hurt their sales.
DidneyLehnd
That's a chicken or the egg scenario, did they not sell well because there wasn't a demand for it? Or did they not sell well because there wasn't a supply for it? I think it's the prior, as companies did try and sell RPGs in the west and they failed to take off.
It was challenging games that's why I lived them . Yes I heard that comment. I paid them no mind
@@Sawngawkuh I wish they would but Dragon Quest V was released near 27 yrs ago and VI 24 yrs ago. I doubt they will now. There's a movie coming out based on V and the story is so amazing
@@wschippr1 There wasn't much of a demand because not many were really brought over in those PAL regions in the first place. Not many companies actually tried to see if those territories would get into such games beyond a small handful, and none of the games of those that did make an attempt were notable IPs. I think it's just an amalgam of reasons at the time. Uncertainty, dealing with numerous translations, any conversion business, and so on.
Sick Intro I must say :)
such a good series!
I subscribed last week and right away comes the next video and the one I was waiting for. Okay then...
Fantastic review of this classic NES series! I've only played the first long ago. I was more into the Final Fantasy series back then. I've always liked Amano's art over Toiyama's, and Uematsu's music over Sugiyama's. I'll have to at least give DQ4 a shot, as it looks very fun.
Uematsu really does give Sugiyama a run for his money, that's for sure. Both are great composers. That said, I was more of a Tetsuya Nomura art kinda guy, but I understand that's not exactly to everybody's taste. :)
Now onward to some Falcom games! Hope to see Legend of Heroes and YS done sometime in the future since both series don't get enough love on UA-cam sadly :( You could do YS fairly quickly since most of their titles are under 15 hours long but the Legend of Heroes will be a mountain of a task as the last few games released here in the states are 50 to 70+ hours each but it's such a wonderful series that deserves much more love!
On the new Dragon Quest for Ps4 and 3DS, who is the art director? I hope Akira.T comes back to it once again.
zanychelly Akira drew the characters in 11
I love the idea that the game has you play as a NPC merchant. I'll definatley be checking out this game
It's called the Mystery Dungeon series. Though most new entries have been in the Spin-Off series called Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. It's a really fun series.
Playing Taloon's chapter really has me interested in these Mystery Dungeon games, for sure. They're definitely on my radar now. :)
What's really interesting about Taloon is that despite his appearance as a middle aged fight man, if you give him a Cautery Sword, he's a force to be reckoned with.
Tartar But those don't let you play as a shopkeeper. For that play Recettear or Moonlighter (action-RPG)
Marinanor that’s a sword of malice, for the NES version
I played DW 1-3 thanks to my grandma. Dragon Warrior III is my favorite. However, she didn't buy IV, saying it had chapters.
I have DQ IV on DS now and... Got stuck at cloud/sky. I didn't know where to go. Definitely will need to new game when I revisit.
DW4 was my favorite game as a kid, makes me so sad that it wasn't popular in the west.
NES and SNES RPGs probably didn't sell well because the cost of the carts were absurd. I remember saving up $70 for what was then Final Fantasy 3. Like how parents often bought the cheaper video game console for their kid they also bought them cheaper games.
Dragon Quest/Warrior 4 and 5 are my favorites, I got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 on my Android and 7 on my 3DS.
Nice; this was one game in the series I had skipped over so this is cool to see.
It was a lot of fun to play, for sure! I hope you can find time to give it a shot some day. :)
Yeah; definitely looks cool.