The Citizen Kane of Video Games -- Dragon Quest V
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2020
- "The Citizen Kane of games" is an often-debated and often-misconstrued question. Now, Designing For is deciding to throw their own hat into the ring with a forgotten RPG from the early 90's that no one in the western hemisphere has even played. Will they succeed? I leave that up to YOU, the viewer.
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You are the summoning salt of the design of video games
I don't think there's any greater honor than that. Thank you.
Yo Debora is actually my favorite part of the game. Thanks for mentioning her despite her not being in the original version
Best girl deserves recognition wherever possible.
If you DON'T go Debora, are you even playing DQV right?!
@@llendar Well you were certainly playing it before 2009. Having not given V on DS a try yet, she does strike me as intriguing for her unconventional attitude.
@@llendarBianca is the only valid option I'm afraid
I married Deborah when I played DQ5 because I wanted to go with the « troll » option
I ended up loving her character ! Her party chat is hilarious and by the end of the game she becomes softer around the Hero and the kids
Also her equipment is awesome for LMS and MKS hunting
I've come to the realization that if DQ5 is the Citizen Kane of video games, then FF7 is the Star Wars.
Both FF7 and Star Wars
-Have a fleshed out world that gets expanded with mixed results
-Contain the most spoiled moment in their respective mediums (I don't even have to tell you what they are because I know you know)
-Are always parodied (How many sitcoms and the like have a Star Wars parody? When RPGs are parodied, how often do people make fun of the name "Final Fantasy" or make fun of Cloud's distinctive hair and giant Buster Sword?)
The similarities are astounding. At least that's how I see it personally.
Actually there's quite a lot of Star Wars in Final Fantasy in my observations in terms of how they're structured, especially early into the series. The Hero's Journey of I, an evil empire in II, Biggs and Wedge, Darth Vader lookin' dudes in armor, cool airships in place of space travel, and so on!
@@LeoMidori Guess they're more alike than I initially thought.
Haha, i like this
Cait Sith and C3-P0
@@LeoMidori FFIV was actually based off of Star Wars, funnily enough.
Dude...that petrification part had me in tears...
> Hero and his wife are petrified
> "Oh they're just sleeping basically"
> Revealed that they're fully conscious
> "Oh."
@@ravioli4601 In the PS2 version I played, Ladja did say that they would be forced to stand by and watch the end of the world immediately after turning them into stone. Though when Bianca was rescued, she seemed confused, as if she wasn't conscious the whole time.
@@Y-two-K oh. thank god
>designer for releases a 50 minute video
>6 minutes in is a Pekora reference
Aight, I’m watching this 7 times.
It’s, it’s perfect.
The Narrative structure of Dragon Quest V alone was so revolutionary to me when I first played it. It genuinely feels like an operatic tragedy in three parts, and the fact that it is not only in RPG but a monster collector to boot?
I think the "Citizen Kane" framing of the video undersells the content. I thought this would be a lesser video but it's a great Designing For analysis as always.
Your succinct description of why narrative-driven video games are merely borrowing Kane's wheel is brilliant, and exactly what I've been trying to say for years. You've earned this staunch curmudgeon's rare subscription, and I look forward to diving into a rabbit hole of your videos/perspective
The twist of *Dragon Quest: Your Story* is something you would expect out of something who’s art was done by Akira Toriyama.
You’ve got that right.
Honestly I’d prefer it if it was done out of concern, with the programs creator simply reaching out, asking if they’re okay.
The protagonist simply nods, and with a smile, the program fades, but not before saying
“Make sure you confirm that with him. He misses ya lots.”
Did you forget a “not” somewhere? The way this is said sounds like it.
@@GoldDragon20 What? No
What... Like I can't tell what you guys are thinking
Not really
Oh my god DQ YOUR STORY was an absolute rollercoaster of emotions, dear lord.
Also, this video is literally the reason I even bought DQ5, so thanks a ton! Great video as always!
man its enough to make me cry
this video is fantastic, absolutely crazy
you deserve so much much much more views
good work
GG my man, i didn't realize you had structured the video in a similar 3-act structure to the game until talking with a friend about it. Well played.
I think discovering this game at the point I did is the reason it is probably my favorite game. I still agree on the citizen kane point and I think without the DS port the game has significantly more flaws, but the SNES version did something that games before it tried very hard to do but failed. I could gush about this game for an hour, and while I think the DS game is a masterpiece and stands up to almost every modern RPG, respecting the roots of it is interesting to see. Story through gameplay, interaction, party chat, and long stretches of 30+ hours is what makes video games work. This is why people play games and why they can go from simple entertainment to an art form in my opinion. Everyone has a different experience with the games they play and what they prefer, and I think a lot of that comes down to personal taste and the standout points. For me this game does it, it shows something personal I didn't think attainable by games. This video not only shows that (and elaborates on how your story failed due to it) but it explains why and how this happens, this is my favorite retrospective of this game I've seen so far and will definitely earn you a sub. Great work
... I do have admit, that twist at the end of the movie there did actually sound like an interesting direction to take things at first before it completely went off the rails.
Anyways, great video! Don't have much to say really since I've never played Dragon Quest V (or any Dragon Quest, really) before, but you definitely make a very strong case for it.
Congrats on Live A Live getting remade. I hope to see it become an anime series some day where each era is done by a different studio.
A game where even the flavor text can get real
Holy shit, the sheer breadth of your knowledge of video games is insane, its extremely rare to find the combination of the hundreds of games shown in this video in one place. There's a whole generation of people who dont know that there were plenty of game consoles before the NES. Meanwhile, Ultima, Wizardry, YU-NO, and others are mentioned here. Would love to hear your thoughts on the Ultima series as well, because I've been working my way through it recently. I highly recommend checking out Ultima Underworld as an example of player choice giving a different meaning to each person's unique experience. Not sure what the film equivalent of Ultima Underworld would be...something only recognizable to older generations, but still technologically and conceptually innovative, and copied across the rest of the medium.
Yeah it's unfortunate, as Ultima and Wizardry are only really mentioned in Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy videos. It also doesn't help that the only popular gaming systems in the 80s were arcades and consoles, and computer games were way more niche. I feel like the Sega Master System is also overlooked, but my impression of the console is that it was primarily great for porting computer and arcade games. I am now doing research on what early Computer games to play, because they seem to be cheap and easy to run on computers.
Now gathering a crew to remake Citizen Kane starring Dragon Quest Slimes of all sorts. Sign up here. We're looking to go machinima, but we're open to stop motion if we get people who can pull it off.
Thank you for creating this wonderful video. There was no way I would have played this game, but because of you I got to experience something special.
Wow! This game is amazing! I NEED TO PLAY THIS!
Also, this video is so well made. 11/10
Tales of Symphonia is my Citizen Kane. I love how the story's twists on RPG stories, the combat was fun to engage with instead of avoiding, and the characters had some depth. I will admit, it has hasn't aged well. The animation is janky, combat was improved in further games thus going back can be jarring, but I still love all the same. I think it was what really got me to appreciate and adore media that deconstructs tropes or entire story structures.
aight, ya sold me with those first 15 minutes. I'll play it and then come back for the rest of the vid. Killer work!!
That movie bit is YEEESH
I've been a fan of the Dragon Warrior/Quest series since the US launch in 1989, and this one stands above all the rest as the peak of the series, and perhaps my favorite game of all time.
(And Nera. Forever Nera. :) )
Bianca is better.
Everybody has their favorites of the series, what are your thoughts on VIII? It's the one I've spent the most time with and have the most connection to, but I appreciate older players' perspectives. I love V, but it's strangely hard for me to keep sitting down with and playing through. Maybe it's age~
Katawa Shoujo, while making me start paying attention to game stories, is the game that opened my eyes to the power of video games. I was 13, read about it somewhere, and decided it would be my first VN. After I finished and was emotionally shaken, I did a rate thing for me then and researched it. It blew my mind and left me speechless when I found that people across the world who never even met, let alone knew each others real names for the most part, worked together for 4 years to bring this beautiful game to life, and then just gave it away for free. It just... it still moves me, and reminds me that peeps sometimes just do things because they love them and want others to experience them. In that way, it's a Citizen Kane for me, in that it opened my eyes to the possibilities of games and the connections that they can make.
Which route did you get first?
This a fantastic video, that shows the greatness of this legacy piece. I haven't thought in this way for a while and i must say i am floored and don't know what to say, truely. Hope you have a good day, keep up the good work and try not to falter.
For my money, I would say the game that is closer to the Citizen Kane of Video Games would be The Portopia Serial Murder Case. After all unlike Dragon Quest V it was not part of a well regarded franchise that was expected to be excellent, it was a one of the firsts titles from an up and coming director that proved his talent and allow him to make Dragon Quest. It expanded video game storytelling beyond anything else of its time, and use video games to enhance the story in ways that only games could. It was one of the first to allow true agency to the player with various techniques that are still seen to this day. If this game did not exist, then it would have taken far longer for video game storytelling to be seen not as something ancillary to gameplay but as something that games can focus and and excelled at all their own. Thanks to this game, the entire sub genre of visual novels exists, and several legendary developers has this to thank for getting them interested in becoming developers.
Now I do think that Dragon Quest V is an important game in the history of the medium, but to me the better analogy is with Psycho by Alfred Hitchcock. Both where themselves influenceable works within their own mediums that inspired many projects themselves and has been referenced in many more, but they are also from experienced and respected directors who had already made several classics, and so their was no reason to think that these works would be any different. Dragon Quest V in particular was coming out for the Super Famicom, and given what other developers where making for the system (Super Mario World, A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Megaman X, and other JRPG Final Fantasy IV), it would have been more surprising if the game was not as excellent as it was. It stands out less as a game that redefied what it means to be a game, and more like a excellent classic for a medium that was already redefied on what it meant to be a video game.
For me, the Citizen Kane of Video Games should not be just an influenceable video game that uses the medium of video games for to enhance its story in ways no other medium can, it should be a video game that leads the charge on using the medium of video games to its greatest extent, to come out in a time where developers where still not truly using the medium for its unique strengths, and show the world what could be done with video games that inspires other developers to do the same. I think that The Portopia Serial Murder Case deserves such an honor more than Dragon Quest V does.
You make an absolutely excellent point. I suppose the sticking point for me is that I view Citizen Kane as capitalizing on the mechanical backbone that had been established by prior movies, rather than creating that backbone as its predecessors had. Portopia I view as more significant to the systems of video games and their proper incorporation of narrative, while DQV is more intrinsic to the spirit and flow of video game storytelling, as well as using all of its systems to the player's advantage. If Portopia provides the backbone and an idea of what games could be and what excellence could spring from them, Dragon Quest V shows more thoroughly how they could be realized. And while it's a weaker connection, I do earnestly believe that the pressures of developing for the Super Famicom and upgraded hardware do meet a certain level of expectation to Wells' transition from live stage performance to film acting and direction. Obviously, Horii had more experience than Wells in his field, and I definitely find your comparison to Psycho very apt and very strong. I just appreciate DQV's efforts in the improvement of and innovation on the video game medium more in this comparison that Portopia giving it its earliest building blocks. If you want to say which is more important to the medium as a whole, Portopia definitely has a wider net of influence (including to DQ5 itself), but I feel the specific techniques used in DQ5 are more universally ubiquitous and seen without compromise, in a similar way to Kane's cinematographic techniques being taken and adopted wholesale.
But that's totally just a matter of opinion. I really appreciate the well-thought out comment, thank you!
No the citizen kane of video games is citizen kane 2 for the wii
Dq 5 was my first Dq game. It really hit me and I still think about it sometimes.
In my experience with DQ5, I spent more than a little too much time grinding... So the time between wedding and childbirth was like... 4 days. It was funny.
I've played the two versions of the game, and I've only ever chosen Bianca.
I watched the movie on Netflix. I was a big Dragon Quest fan from before, but had only completed the first two games on the NES, and had played DQ Builders. After watching the movie and loving it I decided I was gonna play the game. I started playing 1 again, then 2, then 3, then 4. And then I played DQ5. I really loved it, and even though most of the most important plot points were already spoiled by the movie I really enjoyed the game, and I really thank it was an amazing experience. I played it mostly on my way to work (original SNES version, with not oficial translation to english, emulated on my 3DS), when I had a 1+ hour commute, in an awful company full of toxic mean people btw. So the game for me now is kinda like a good memory in a not so well time in my life. I really hold this game in my heart.
You mention that the wedding is in the title of the game, but there's one other plot element in the title that you didn't get, at least it is in the Japanese version.
The subtitle of that version is "tenkuu no hanayome," which can be transferred to "a bride from the heavens," (if you're going for total literalness, you could say "Bride of the Heavens.) Of course this is alluding to the wedding, but that word that means heavens has another meaning.
In the Japanese version of the game, Zenethia is called "tenkuu no shiro" (castle of the heavens) and the Zenethian equipment is "Tenkuu no whatever." So that Japanese subtitle can also mean "A Bride from Zenethia," alao alluding to the twist that she'sa decent of the Zenethians.
51:34 Pokémon does have its own unique approach based on the original creator’s childhood hobby
Any similarities could be seen as coincidence
But we will never know ig
Yo! That was the Old School Essentials (B/X) ruleset you used for D&D mad respect. So much better than the newer editions.
The narrator sounds like ones those guys who cries during Star Wars trailers. Great video!
Thumbnail had me thinking you were going for Rocket Slime. That would have been very ridiculous.
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Story, not Saga!
DDSaga is unrlated to DDStory - strange, I know.
DDSaga is actually an incredible pair of games, highly recommend.
Great video on one of the very best JRPG in history. I must add that in the movie Your Story the best part is when Luca goes back to the past he asked his young self what happens when life gets tough. Young Luca said nothing will deter him because he is the strongest father's son. This answer reminds adult Luca the unravelling courage he used to have, and he goes back to present time a determined person. I think this little change adds even more meaning to that time travel for the main character.
Found this channel from the Doom Weapon Balance vid, found this next. Now I’m a subscriber.
Great points and presentation.
Is that the innuendo studios vid?
My party was, the hero, a restless armour, the sabertooth and the hero's son
Not the first tragic JRPG but certainly a finely crafted masterpiece!
DQ5 IS A MASTERPIECE HANDS DOWN, BEAT THE GAME IN 2020 AFTER WATCHING THE MOVIE ON NETFLIX AND STILL BLOWN AWAY.
My gut instinct is SM64 or OoT, but this was a great video. The central idea that a game should somehow INVOLVE the player in a more active and meaningful way than other media is pretty spot on.
I think you could also make a strong argument for Metal Gear Solid in terms of combining SO many different forms of media into a single game. I mean really, live action, 3D, 2D, and various other forms of presenting and interacting with the game was really impressive and influential.
Gosh, that video was amazing! I never played DQ5 (or any DQ), but this sure was great opportunity to learn a lot about it. Thank you very much for it. =D
Please play it
this is a fantastic video!!! the production quality is far higher than expected for a channel of your sub count. well done!!!
*D4:* (proceeds to dissect Dragon Quest: YOUR STORY and it's ending.)
*Me, who enjoyed both movie and twist enough to watch it multiple times:* (takes a deep breath and groans through gritted teeth,) _"oH fUcK, hErE wE gO..."_
Oh my goodness, I needed this in my UA-cam feed, perhaps it was waiting to make my 2024 brighter. Thank you so much for talking about this wonderful industry-changing game! One which legacy, just like the more popular ones like A Link to the Past, Shin Megami Tensei, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, FF6, Pokémon Gold and Silver, etc. can never be overstated. It truly DESERVES to be more popular.
Maybe it's just because this wasn't localized yet when I was growing up, but for me, without knowledge of DQ's influence on it, the big game was always Final Fantasy VI. The intricate weaving of the different characters' narratives, the ability to adapt the gameplay of each character to better fit your preferred battle style, the willingness to let the villain actually win and force the player to regroup (literally) in order to triumph and save the ruins of a fallen world, it all enraptured me to the point that I was looking up esper names in a mythology book just to know more about the game! Also, don't even get me started on the music, the opera scene, and the power of leitmotifs for the narrative. From what you've said, I do see how DQ5 influenced FFVI, I just prefer FFVI more, both for the game itself and for my nostalgia.
Also, I had the pleasure of trying Live A Live, not a fan of the fighting mechanics but the narrative and gameplay variation is brilliant. The fact that it had alternate endings as well, depending on the player's decision in the finale, was ahead of its time
Don't worry, Aerith dying only made me happy that she wouldn't force herself into my party again. BUT Dad dying was literally all of my daddy issues coming home with the milk just to get shot.
Fantastic video man, completely underrated and I hope it gets the proper attention it deserves!
Fantastic video and great work. This game means a lot to me and you described it perfectly. Thank you !
im SO GLAD people are talking about this game. i picked this game up for the DS when i was 7 and had no idea what to expect. ive played it almost every year since i was 13. theres nothing like it for me
Also, what do you think of the movie adaptation of this game?
EDIT: I saw there's a section of your opinion of this movie. I guess I'm inclined to agree with you, even if I've never tried to play DQV myself
HE’S ALIVE!
6:10 I didnt expect a Usada Pekora cameo but i am glad she's on the video. She's the fucking best.
This was so well made and narrated I’m in awe. Well done 👏. You’ve earned my sub good sir.
Dragon Quest: Your Story is one of the most beautiful films I have ever seen done with CG. That being said, they should have done DQ3. DQ5 has a big divider by letting you pick how you marry. That will split a fan base with a movie that is only getting made one way. 3 is big enough and also did very well in Japan and the US as far as fans go.
I've never played a Dragon Quest, but I'd really love to check V out now. This was a really great video!
Played the SNES rom translation 20 years ago and was blown away
The DS remake makes it even better.
Stopped at about 16 mins in: Sold, this sounds awesome!
Dragon Warrior was a huge moment in my childhood, honestly made it to adulthood before even finding out there were more games and that Dragon Quest was the same damn thing 😂. Currently playing 2, I've heard 3 is phenomenal!
This was a masterpiece. I initially played this game as a 12 year old when I traded some game with another student for DQ5, little did I know what I was getting into. It had a profound effect on me and to this day it has become my favourite game and I love the dragon quest franchise. If it wasn't for that one guy in my class wanting to trade his copy of DQ5, I wouldn't even know about dragon quest or have had any interest in JRPGs
I started playing the DQ series last year, and I thought Dragon Quest 5 was one of my top ten favorite games ever. I played through it on both the DS and on the SNES with an English translation. Masterpiece.
Had to sub after that King unloaded into the Bishop. Great video.
I've never played a single Dragon Quest game, but I was compelled to watch this anyway. Wonderful video, and successfully made me want to re-watch The Hero Yoshihiko. Even though, as I stated before, I have never played Dragon Quest.
You should definitely check out the franchise! I didn't think I'd like it at first, but the series (especially V) has changed my life. It's something really special, if not already described throughout the video lol
Seriously check it out. Dragon Quest 3 is probably the best place to start on the switch, but the Mobile ports of 3, 4, and 5 are great as well. Or you can play Dragon Quest 11 on any modern console.
Yangus boys where you at!?
48:11 and that sword IS actually erdricks sword from the dq erdricks trilogy aka dq 3 to 1 to 2
Though I disagree, I have to admit you definatly sold me. Awesome video!
Great Video. I loved DQ V's progress of story and the aspect of having monsters join your team.
also may i ask what game was at 40:15
Looks like Disgaea 5
What I believe is the honest to god Citizen Kane of video games is a niche title from 2005 Russia titled "Pathologic", Though I'd recommend playing the 2015 rerelease with the actually comprehensible English translation
>unpopular at least (mostly in English speaking countries)
>Did eh, okay in terms of sales
>does techniques that were not popular or well known for each art form to do
I could write about pathologic is the best thing I have ever played in my life, --not because it IS the best game ever, but because nothing else does what it does-- but that would take too long write and I have stuff to do. I just hope it's gets more popular at least
Edit, spoiler:
It even does the dq movie's twist in an actually spectacular way
Pathologic is more experimental than influential, like an arthouse film.
@@GibsHaberdashery must it fit every example?
@@vintheguy Influence is the most defining aspect of Citizen Kane, so I would say it's important.
I enjoyed DQV, but I don't know, maybe because I was an adult, it didn't have as big an impression on me as most people it seems. I literally forgot about the father's death scene. The choose-your-bride thing was really cool, but I thought having her turned to stone and absent for a large chunk of the game was a big disappointment and made the choice seem less consequential.
Have never watched Citizen Kane, nor have I touched DQV, but this was a solid argument given for the amount of impact this game had in Japan.
Also that movie ending...oof. To not market it that way would be a horrible surprise at the end. I get that it's a meta, unpredictable ending but damn... If they came out with a Chrono Trigger movie and Lavos' core was just a physical manifestation of Twitter calling me a Boomer for liking the movie so far, ouch. Why kick your target audience in the crotch like that?
the only tease at the twist was that one blue sequence when Hero tried sleeping in the inn before getting married.
28:22 Gigachad Rex: pffft choose.....
I actually have a weird history with this game in particular.
The first game in this series I ever played was Dragon Quest: Monsters (the first one on GBC) and I remember reading about this game and how it was only available in Japan at the time, which basically made me shrug and go "that sucks, I would really love playing another game that has monster party building mechanics."
When this game then came out, it was the first main series DQ game I ever played, and I loved it. I have not gone on to play any more games in the series after, but it's no stretch at all to say that if I do, it will all be because of this one game.
5 has to top the list of best DQ games. I don't know when I played this, it was either while I was dating a Bianca or just after. Weird coincidence.
You hyped up Dragon Quest V so well. Now I wanna play it myself. This was Pokemon before Pokemon.
While Citizen Kane moved movie story telling forward, the movies were seen as an art before then. The Birth of a Nation was the first feature-length film, and it was the first film to be feature length, have close-ups, wide shots, multiple story lines, and an orchestral score. As terrible as the message and content Birth of a Nation was, you have to admit it was the first real piece of film that could be called art. There was also Gone With the Wind, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, and The Jazz Singer which pushed boundaries before Kane.
To me is more like the Portrait of the artist as a young man of videogames
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I am guessing K. Rool hadn't yet met Full Metal Hugger in Final Fantasy Adventure to take notes on how to be a "competent" boss. At the very least, the good guys must have inflicted heavy brain damage on him.
If you’ve never played Portopia, do so. It’s very rough around the edges in some aspects, mostly because it’s older than most people watching this, but some of the things it does do is kinda insane. It’s a neat experience. You can beat it over the course of an afternoon so it’s not even a big time investment or anything.
52:50 - Enix gave up on Dragon Quest in the West after the four Dragon Warrior games didnt sell. By 1995, Enix’s US branch would shut down. A shame because DQ5 would have been awesome.
One of the best RPG i play in my life. This video warm my heart
If people say Undertale is the Citizen Cane of Video Games; I weep openly for them.
I remember finding Deborah was added in the remake and wasn't in the original, just bein like damn....I was disappointed that she never got into Dragon quest Heroes 1 or 2
As much as I love the DS version, the english version it has one issue most would agree with. The heavy use of accents. Not voiced, but written dialouge for a lot of characters has accents. And its used so heavily it's hard to figure out what they're saying. Making you take time to decipher the text adds up.
I still wish we could get the origional release and not the remake.
28:48 i Wish this Song was in the movie
49:59 maybe it didn’t capture the charm of the original game but it created its own unique charm
What's the Paddington 2 of video games?
Dragon Quest VIII
I’ve never played DQ ever but this video makes me wanna play 5
is there a differene between playing it on the DS and on Super Famicom? (besides the latter not being translated, that is)
A lot, actually. DS version adds more monsters to recruit, a third bride, a second casino with new games, entirely new mini-games and quests such as a giant board game and a souvenir collection quest, new postgame content, and a ton of cute little quality of life features like being able to talk with your party (where if they're your wife they'll usually have something unique to say about every room you go to). The DS version is really probably the definitive way to play (unless you wanna track down the untranslated PS2 version, in which case there's a decent conversation between the two). The mobile version is a port of the DS version as well, so that's also a valid option.
This needs more views
I literally, audibly screamed "The Fuck" twice during that whole gamers rise uo segment
I think you perfectly captured how fucking absurd that plot twist must have been watching it in real time
I claim suggest firmly that Dynasty Warriors 8 xl and Hyrule Warriors are the Citizen Kane of Gaming.
The Dragon Quest Monsters series would later improve monster recruitment.
I mean dragon quest 5 is my personal favourite game of all time and untouched by all other games imo so... yea ill call it the citizen kane of video games
18:16 or Characters that die AS soon AS they are introdeuced Like Green Bike Guy in megaman X3
41:02 but personally i Like the movie for tackiling Subject Matters Like Nostalgia, virtual reality, viruses and anti viruses
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alright. im going to fucking SHATTER this starter pack once i get off my lazy ass and make my "mario and sonic 2012 3DS is citizen kane" video. just you wait
my plans are big
I want a high quality picture of the thumbnail.
And also want to see citizen slime