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In this video, Dr. John Lennox explains why Atheism, Materialism, and Scientism fail as worldviews by bringing together a variety of different arguments from Mathematics, Science & Philosophy that point to the existence of God. We also discuss his recent appearance on Dr. Jordan Peterson's podcast. We analyze the relevancy of Plato's Cave allegory to Christianity today. We debrief on a few of Dr. Lennox's big debates over the years & get into a handful of other fantastic sidetrails. I hope you enjoy it!
0:00: ⚡ Exploring the debate between Dr. John Lennox and Richard Dawkins on the connection between God and science.
5:58: 🤯 Origin of the universe points towards a mind through mathematical language and human genome complexity.
12:44: ⚛️ Understanding the link between scientific knowledge and belief in God, debunking the idea of choosing between the two.
18:33: ⚛️ Discussion on the conflict between science and Christian ideas in shaping worldviews.
24:51: ⚛️ The importance of faith in science as highlighted by Einstein and Professor Sir John Polkinghorne.
30:12: 🤔 Exploring the connection between Desire, Faith, interpretation, and God through Plato's Cave allegory.
35:36: ⚖️ Comparison of philosophical trajectories between CS Lewis and Jordan Peterson, exploring existential themes.
41:26: 💡 Existence of moral convictions in humans as evidence for God's existence and connection to justice.
47:47: 💫 Christianity offers hope, meaning, and peace through relationship with God and repentance from sin.
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Could you please look at my definition of faith I am trying to be as precise as possible.
Faith: An active trust in a well established (well evidenced) and well challenged belief that actualizes motion and decisions in your life to align yourself with the well trusted belief.
Thank you.
N@@thomascherrington596311 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for.
3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
Hebrews 11
@@user-li6zk2kh1j thank you
I've been waiting to see this since you announced you had a chance to interview with him.
I’m a 27 year old male that grew up in a loving Christian household, but have always considered myself agnostic and even possibly atheist at some point. I never felt fulfilled though, especially during the times Ive indulged in my sin which includes drugs, drinking, partying, and sex. Ever since I’ve discovered your channel, I can confidently say that it/you have been a useful tool of God to help build and strengthen my newfound faith in Christ. I can’t thank you enough. Prayer is one thing I’ve still been struggling with in regards to mind fog and ADHD, but I’ve really been trying. Overall I can confidently say I’ve been aiming to be the very best person I can be through Christ. Though I fall, I do not stay down any longer and instead strive to do better and better. Thank you brother and thank you Jesus. I will keep you in my prayers every day.
Great comment. I travelled a similar path. Faith in Jesus and being connected to Him has made all the difference in my life. On prayer I sometimes use this, A.C.T.S. A-Adoration, C-Confession, T-Thanksgiving, S-Supplication. This little system helps keep my prayers on track. 👍🏽
@loveshades - So you've obviously gone insane since you discovered Mr Daily Dose. With therapy I'm hoping you'll make a full recovery one sunny day :)
@@peterhughes8699 hey if this is what going insane feels like then I have no need for therapy anymore. I love being insane!🙂
@@Mediamessengers thanks for the advice bro! I will definitely give that a try!
If you need to believe in a god and sins, in order to "tame" yourself, what does it tell about you?
Why not just being "the best person", independend of Jesus or anything else?
At 60 years old, I’ve become a Christian and it’s people like both Dr. Lennox and yourself who have helped me to come to the only logical conclusion and to be saved. Thank you for this clear message. Subscribed and shared!
Not strange that you've started to believe in one of the gods on offer later in life.
That's incredible. May your faith only grow. ❤
@@chrishoward3391 I've done my research. I had to be convinced intellectually. There is lots of evidence and frankly the last four years had convinced me of evil in the world. The satanists certainly use the Bible as their playbook. I have never believed that creation came out of nothing like the atheists-it doesn't make any sense at all.
_"...it’s people like both Dr. Lennox and yourself who have helped me to come to the only logical conclusion and to be saved."_
So you're not a christian anymore then, and you're an atheist like every other thinking person. Or was the logical conclusion that you want to be and stay dishonest, reject critical thinking, and learn how to rely on only fallacies to excuse your wishful thinking, like Lennox "without "divine" judgment I don't want to live" Lennox?
Atheism and religion are two opposing paths away from god.
I’m from the same beautiful county in Northern Ireland as Dr John, who moved away from Christianity after moving away from home but felt I was feeling around in the dark x and then I felt an urge last year to go back to church on Easter Friday and I felt fulfilled, a meaning, a love and a peacefulness and I’ve never looked back. I am forever learning about Christianity again ❤
Praise the LORD!! ❤
I grew up free religion. I say this as my mother wanted me to decide what I believed. My father was what I call a practicing atheist. Finnily enough now my atheist father who believed in 'science' whatever that might be. My father a mathematician now tells me the language of God is written in mathematics ❤ both my dad. Mum and I all now believe in the father almighty. We all found our way to the path separately.
Praise the Lord ! How wonderful to have each other for all eternity, not only just while you're here.
That’s beautiful I wish you the best God bless
And I hope you will share the Gospel :)
The Gospel according to Paul
1 Corinthians 15 1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Roman 3 22-28
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
You believe in the son too?
Beautiful!
Amen! Please get to know Jesus, son of God. He loves us so much that he died for our sins.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
As a scientist I have never found a contradiction to God. It’s always interesting to me how rabidly people defend science like it’s their own God. I’ve found that most people who do this know very little about either.
So what Is a soul?
@@gozerofgozmis4181 simply put, it’s the part of you that never dies, that remains “you” across all dimensions and realms. It’s the you that is always present whether you are 8 years old or 50 years old, awake or dreaming. The part of you that remains constant, present, and consciously observing everything including observing your thoughts.
@@esoteric.breadcrumbs. can i meke It strong?
@@gozerofgozmis4181 the more you connect to it, bring it into your conscious awareness and not allow the programming of the mind or the world to override you into unconsciousness the stronger it is. There has to be a shift in how you understand it. It’s not a muscle that grows or atrophies like a physical organ, it always is, it’s more about how tuned into it you are. How much you’re accessing it.
That is actually a really well written example of what a soul is. I have actually died before and was resuscitated later. When I died I went to a void. In this place I was very aware I was just my thoughts and that I was in a void now. I felt extremely peaceful and was just like “well I guess I’m here now” I remember literally feeling in that moment that I was surprised I was still myself! It’s a really crazy feeling. Writing this comment has me quite emotional. It’s actually quite scary to think that I was in a void space. @@esoteric.breadcrumbs.
Dr Lennox is a legend and a giant in Christian apology just like CS Lewis. Praise be to God for men like him 🙏🙏🙏
You're praising a master manipulator for lying and manipulating well. I wish you were able to think critically and see all the misrepresentations and lies and fallacies Lennox uses to manipulate people like you into normalising excusing unjustified beliefs.
I'll help you on your way, because I am loving and actually real, unlike your god.
Lennox deliberately misrepresents Dawkins' objection to asking who created the universe. The whole point Dawkins tried to make in that debate was that it's presumptuous to ask who created something instead of asking how something came to be.
Then Lennox assumed his creator he can't demonstrate is uncreated which he can't demonstrate either and neglects that Dawkins proposed the universe as a brute fact, meaning that it's possible that the universe has always existed in some form or another. Lennox' silly proposition of a creator requires the introduction of non existing energy. The universe does not and there is no indication that it ever did.
And that's only the start of this ridiculous conversation of lies and misrepresentations, it only gets worse from there. Everyone who listens to Lennox is dumber for having listened to it. He is the most dishonest and vile person to ever have walked this planet. I wish his god exists, if it's a sincere and loving god it would give Lennox the punishment he wishes on others.
No one deserves the burden and abuses of faith. Do better. We all deserve better.
Love listening to Dr. Lennox & God is definitely using him to speak the truth of scriptures in the Bible with science.
AMEN!
Nonsene, more precisely delusional nonsense.
It's all utter rubbish.
No one has demonstrated the existence of some god or even deatiled how the existence and operation of some god is even possible.
@Russ--R
You are loved.✝️ 👑
Have a good day.
Maybe John can provide a mechanism for anything god has created, instead of spinning his own delusional assumptions
Congratulations on getting Dr. Lennox and many others on your channel!
Thank you! God has answered many prayers! May the lost be found ❤️🙏
Yes, THIS
AMEN John Lennox back at it with mathematics and Apologetics 🙏 ❤️ 👊. New Atheism heralded by Richard Dawkins, Matt Dillahunty, Aaron Ra and others has failed and Michael Shermer is speaking nonsense clinging to questions rather than seeking answers. I've been wanting to study Euclidean mathematics as I'm a 24 year old Christian Apologist working as a teacher and counselor so yeah I see unhealthy information being spread through secular and religious beliefs in families and people all of the time which is why I don't always attend church because I'm studying The Bible alone in DA ZONE 😂. I've been watching Christian Apologetics videos since 2020 so these channels are really helpful especially on UA-cam and social media. This has nothing to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
AMEN John Lennox back at it with mathematics and Apologetics 🙏 ❤️ 👊. New Atheism heralded by Richard Dawkins, Matt Dillahunty, Aaron Ra and others has failed and Michael Shermer is speaking nonsense clinging to questions rather than seeking answers. I've been wanting to study Euclidean mathematics as I'm a 24 year old Christian Apologist working as a teacher and counselor so yeah I see unhealthy information being spread through secular and religious beliefs in families and people all of the time which is why I don't always attend church because I'm studying The Bible alone in DA ZONE 😂. I've been watching Christian Apologetics videos since 2020 so these channels are really helpful especially on UA-cam and social media. This has nothing to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
@@justingary5322 Generating answers from a backward-ass book of herder myth isn't how seeking answers is actually done. Science has succeeded beyond wildest imagination, and most scientists don't arrive at god fantasies through. it.
Congratulations Brandon 👏
I realise that you're not doing this for your own glory,
but I just want to acknowledge your dedication, patience & perseverance & the significance of having the opportunity to interview,
Professor John Lennox on your channel.
God Bless you & keep pressing forward brother 🙏
Thanks for the encouragement!
@christian - No he's doing it for $$$. And so is F Turek and most of the Christian scammers you revere.
Let's go Brandon! 🤡
Just kidding. Congratulations. And thanks for your efforts.
😂surely no hard feelings..@@rodrigosuarez1942
that made me lol, Thank God for comedy!
What a blessing for you that you had this opportunity to talk with Dr Lennox AND how blessed we are to listen / learn from the experience. Thanks for your preparation and the carefully selected questions given the time limits you faced. What an amazing gift Dr Lennox is to Christians and to the entire world !!! 🙌🏻✝️🙌🏻✝️🙌🏻✝️🙌🏻
Thank you brother for having such special soul Dr. Lennox on to speak the truth. The man is truly anointed by the Most High. God bless you all!
Whoa! 50+ minutes of Lennox and I just came out of confession! Today is a great day. Praise God!
Yes, Allah is the greatest indeed brother❤
Hahaha sounds like a Nightmare to me. Did you confess to the Bible, and your God, being both horrendously evil and did you get absolution for 1500 years of Inquisition atrocities and 10,000 pedophile priests in the past 20 years ??
@@va941 thor is the strongest, who else can make thunder !!!! 🤔
@@mekavio8231 ur so dumb, Thunderbird is not the strongest!
@@va941No. Islam is an evil, satanic counterfeit of Christianity.
We need more of people like Dr John Lennox in our churches. God bless him❤🫂✝️
Yeah more people who will lie and take money from you - I am sure that is just what you need - not!!
And in our schools 😮💨
Αμήν!
@@DanaosV5 Amen, my friend.✝️☦️🙏
Dr Lennox is a treasure. So brilliant and gentle. So well read and well educated, and his joy always comes through. Brandon is so informed, clearly he is a thinking man. What a help, pleasure, and a joy listening today. What an encouragement. What a great place to stop by. What a great place to become armed with facts and wisdom.
sophisticated shrewdness.
Pity Lennox lacked facts to justify his beliefs, or the wisdom to prove they're true, which they aren't. He just makes stuff up, he's very good at that.
I was impressed by the fact that Brandon used the word "infer" properly!
It's just waffle
leggo ur ego..@@davidstaffell
The Narnia book mentioned in the discussion on Plato's Cave is The Silver Chair, one of my favourite books.
Congrats on getting Dr Lennox on your channel. Thanks for the great content and spreading the Lord's message
Thank you! It was a huge honor!
What right has this bloke have to spread the message. If you never read the bible you would never have become a Christian. I have never read this influential piece of rubbish and seemingly just 4 percent of Generation Z have read the bible I am reminded of Dale Carnegie's book on How to win friends and influence people. Please allow me to live a life without The bible, Christianity, The creator or Devine revelations, Religious quotes. AI will be the death nell for Destroying your false Faith May your God bless Joe Biden.
I'm from Brazil and I watch all your videos. I recently read the Franck turek book and I am struggling to understand certain concepts. The interview is a huge help. Thanks for your work. Keep it up.
Wonderful! Thanks for sharing!
That's because Frank does mental gymnastics to make morality fit the Bible
Read the Bible first.
@@Lightman741 Morality comes from God because we are born with an eternal soul, an eternal spirit, a moral conscience. God is not a Creator of randomness, but order.
Morality cannot come out of randomness because naturalism is random selection and the survival of the fittest doesn’t lend itself to morality.
@@65gtotrips souls, spirits both of these are claims that have never been proven. Your argument totally falls apart on this alone. Yet alone the morality of the god in the bible
Thank you for this video I’d like to share my story if I could. I’m 24 living in willoughby Ohio. I grew up baptized Episcopalian an altar boy in that church and the Catholic Church, went to a Methodist preschool run by sisters, and was confirmed episcopal. I rejected my faith slowly seeing all of the things my parents had chosen to lie to me about and watching my mom slowly die of cancer from ages 7-10. I drifted into atheism/agnosticism until I was 24. Using drugs and anything I could get my hands on to distance myself from god. I started suffering epileptic fits at 22. 3 weeks ago at work after working myself to exhaustion at 67 hours a week I had an epileptic fit at work. The medicine I was taking was draining the sodium in my body causing me to have more seizures. I neglected to mention that I had wisdom teeth taken out so eating was a challenge and I was essentially fasting and on a calorie deficit and lost 11% body mass over 5 days in the hospital. I was put on a fluid restriction as not to pee put the remaining sodium I had left and I was put I a new medicine. The side effects were less appetite and insomnia. Being a marajuana user for the better part of my life and not being able to smoke compounded with this and my anxiety. But for some reason I was calm for everyone else around me. It felt like I needed to be there. So I shriveled up there like a raisin hardly eating and drinking, not sleeping, weening of and on medicine. For 48 hours. Then I go home. At this point in my life I had been very familiar and comfortable with the effects of not just pharmaceuticals in general but auditory and visual hallucinations from lack of sleep due to my ADD and having taken adderall and vyvanse before. My record was 48 before. So I get home at 48 and I don’t sleep. I can’t. So I call my girlfriends and she tells me to pray and ask god and my mother to help me to sleep. I say yes but internally I scoff at her like yeah 58 hours in a bunch of good that’s gonna do I gotta go to the fucking hospital and get dosed or I’m gonna fucking die. So I go to my dad and it’s 4 a.m. and I ask for his sleeping pills and I take one. And I go to sleep. And a voice tells me. Pray. And I listen. I prayed for sleep and to talk to my mother who had been dead for 15 years. Something I had been asking for in vain for 15 years. And then god took me. A second was a thousand years and a thousand years was a second. He showed me a cell and said in perfect English “Look what I did” and it divided and kept dividing. Then he let me talk to my mother for what may have been 30 minutes or 8 hours but when I woke up I was on the couch and I cried for 5 hours. She told me that I have already gotten everything that I have asked for in life and she is right. I truly am one of the most blessed people to have lived I have so many loving people in my life. She told me I worry so much about the wrong things. Worry about the people you love. When you fear god you’re not scared of anything anymore. I absolutely love my life. I love you all and what you have done for me. Peace be with you.💛
Dr Lennox is such a legend. I love listening to him.
he's probably the smartest person alive.
@@JodiSamurai LOL You may be the dumbest to believe that !
@@JodiSamurai He's from County Armagh Northern Ireland, we're all smart over here 😂😜. Joking aside he's an uncle of Kirstyn Getty of the Getty music duo. Don't know if you knew that or not. 👍
@@NunyaBiz7 love your name!😆
Well, at least he spouts legends as though they are valid history.
Dr Lennox is so good, really happy to hear him, thank you for the interview and God bless.
I love John Lennox. He's a brilliant voice. He's so great at discussing the truths of Christianity.
'truths of Christianity' - LOL
I always enjoy listening Dr. John Lennox and you also. Thank you for the great material you upload on this channel. God bless you and carry on!
Thanks for listening!
Johns family come to our church and he’s been a few times. Listening to him in person is spellbounding. Such an intelligent, articulate Christian
I'm amazed of how Dr. Lennox is able to combine science and theology - masterpiece! God bless you both!
A whole hour‼️‼️‼️ can't wait to get home to listen to this
Enjoy! 🙏❤️
Don’t listen it’s a waste of time.
@@kos-mos1127,
Read a few of your comments.
You are an intellectual paperweight.
@@kos-mos1127 ok bud you do you
Beautiful discussion. 🙌🏾
One of the greats for sure!
Thank you for all you do on your channel! 🙏🏾
Loved this discussion and so grateful this is on UA-cam where many can see it! I'm in my 60s and have been a believer most of my life but appreciate so much hearing those way smarter than me give their thoughts and offer great info on apologetics! Thank you!
THOROUGHLY enjoyed this. Thank you!
Awesome, thank you guys for a very informative video. I love how slow he speaks because you can really grasp what he’s saying and I feel like i learned a lot from this video so thank you for that.❤
Great questions and your preparation for this interview was remarkable.
I've been subscribed for a while now, and I know how amazing this moment was for you. Congrats Brandon, I could see the joy in your eyes! What a cool moment! :) Thanks for all the great content you keep putting out there for us. Reminds me of a verse from Jesus in the book of Matthew. "The light of they body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light." Matthew 6:22
The chilling fact that our every cell has a complex, self-repairing machine that literally _turns words into flesh..._
I think that's the most stupid thing I ever read.
@@nickjones5435 😂
@@nickjones5435 well wait until you read the rest of the comments. This theists collecting a lot of stupid arguments.
@@toren9120
What is your explanation of the origin of the information the cell
@@nickjones5435 He's spot on! In protein synthesis, the code in DNA base pair molecules A,T,C and G will make amino acids.. this string of amino acid will fold into protiens which make up the building and repair in the cells.. From DNA code (word) to protien building blocks of cells (flesh).
Awesome interview, thanks for this! Dr James Tour sent me down a rabbit hole that John Lennox popped out the other side of. And the JBP podcast. Really inspiring to see you get some time with these titans for us.
Check out Michael Heiser.
Awesome interview! Great questions and answers. Will be saving for the future! ❤
Excellent interview. You have a knack for it. God Bless!
Thanks very much for the plug to Practical Wisdom on your show, Brandon! John is such a humble and articulate Christian. I find his argument about language and meaning really compelling. The notion that meaning exists within the universe, and that there is someone who can interpret that meaning, implies the presence of a mind.
Of course! And thank you for helping make this interview happen. It was a huge honor!
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom I'd be delighted to support you in your new endeavours.
Cool. I was just introduced to a new channel. Looks like a lot of Lennox, so I'm looking forward to it.
@@atlasfeynman1039 Thank you very much! Do let me know if you have any thoughts on any of the episodes.
What an awesome conversation!! Loved the question that connected Jordan Petersen and C.S. Lewis. Thank you
I made a point to get up an hour early this morning so I can watch this! Great interview!
Enjoyed this interview very much! 🤗
Brandon I hope you understand what opportunity you just had. This interview will echo into eternity and for sure will impact many. Such a cool thing for you!!!
Yessss!!!!! I’ve been waiting eagerly for this video ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥God bless you! 🍿 👀
Hope it’s worth the wait! ❤️
Wow, what an honor indeed. You had the opportunity to interview one of the great thinkers of today!! Very good interview too!
Amazing conversation! God bless you
Great conversation man!
Great video! Such a blessing! Thanks brother.
Great interview!
“In biology, we discovered the longest word that we know to exist; a chemical word which is the human genome 🧬 3.4 billion chemical letters in exactly the right order with a semiotic, semantic dimension of codes for the proteins & so on. So those to my mind are very powerful pointers that the origin is not less than mind. It certainly well could be more than mind but we fly against every analogy that we know if we are not prepared to postulate mind.” -Dr. John Lennox (Daily Dose of Wisdom).
Those do not point to a mind. Those point to nature. Nature is really simple on the smallest of scales and largest of scales. Nature has an infinite amount of interactions to consider. That would require an infinite amount of computations in a finite amount of time. This is why it’s impossible for the mind to generate physics because even if processed information the fastest speed possible it would fail to produce physics.
We also have a bunch of junk DNA. Guess God forgot to clean that up.
@@kos-mos1127 Sorry, did you just say quantum physics, black holes and cosmology is 'simple'? Are you actually suggesting that somehow a computer which is capable of carrying out those computations would 'generate' or 'produce physics'?
There is a great deal missing from your understanding.
@kos-mos1127 why do you waste your time here? If you're so confident in your assumptions wouldn't your time be better spent on pursuing all that this life has to offer? Every second wasted here is gone for good, death is only a missed heartbeat away. Once you earn your wages, there's no second chance.
@@atlasfeynman1039 The Cosmos is complex not complicated. Complex systems are simple but since they are sensitive to initial conditions they generate an infinite amount of interactions that are impossible to track. That is the reason we cannot accurately predict the weather. You wold have to know the location of each individual particle and every possible interaction to accurately model reality. There is no way to do that because that would require being able to do infinite computation in a finite amount of time which would break any mind. The mind requires bounds to exists.
You have a great deal of missing from how algorithms work. There is no way build an algorithm that can preform a hypercomputations because that require infinite space and closed time-like loops. Only the Cosmos can fit those requirements.
Can't belive Dr. John decided to come to the channel
Don't underestimate Daily Dose of Wisdom.
This is only the beginning.
I mean, it's not that hard to believe lol
This was awesome, thanks for the great videos!
Great discussion. Thank you ❤
I needed that in my life. Thanks for providing that conversation, and asking some pretty perfect questions.
Watch his interview with Stephen Meyer next
@@noybiznatch thanks for that. I will definitely watch that one next.
you should check out Dr. Jason Lisle and his stuff with mathematics@@noybiznatch
Oh wow, you got Dr Lenox on your channel. That's awesome.
What a treat, thanks for sharing !
Excellent!!! Thank you both!
Great discussion. Loved it! I’ve always struggled with, if God exists, why doesn’t He reveal more of Himself? Especially if he apparently loves us? Dr. Lennox explains that he HAS revealed Himself. And then it’s easier to accept that 1) we can’t know the bigger plan and 2) perhaps He’s revealed just enough of Himself to be capable of being found by the faithful but not so much as to make it a settled matter, making humanity too dependent, thereby failing to reach our full potential as a created?
Yeah that's why I've thought aswell
Or maybe your point two is a necessary condition for humanity to actually grow? It's the difference between being told what to think and learning how to think. The latter seems to improve upon us.
@@hrvad Exactly! So with only a single life experience within the larger tapestry of the entire human experience, it’s easy to fall into a criticism of how a perfect God could (or should) create a “better” existence - but we’d not know the faults in that possibility because we’d necessarily never get to see it play out. Like, were He to give updates through a burning bush every 500 years or so, maybe we never get out of the Bronze Age? For a silly example to make a greater point.
You are all making it too complex.
I know what God is 🫂🌝❤
Dawkins: “it’s absurd to believe in a god who was created.”
Christians: “Yes, right. Any god who is created is not God. Only an eternal being is worthy of being called God. Welcome to our 5000 year old party.”
You must be young ??
What an honor to be able to converse with Dr. Lennox 🙂
Thank you very much for sharing this wonderful interview with Professor Lennox!
God bless you both!
Amen.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Oh snap! Lennox himself!
Love your work! Thank you for blessing us with some good apologetics!
It’s truly my pleasure!
I really appreciate the way you let your guests talk. Too many of the hosts of these types of discussions are insistent on hearing their own voice(s).
What wonderful intellectual being. Really good job on your interview discussing and breaking down the topics. Thank you very much!!!
Dr.Lenox has many. videos on this subject. Love his work!
Yes! He’s an inspiration!
BEST Wisdom Channel! Lennox interview was Smoking Good! Now, I'm getting the book and waiting for the next Daily Dose of Wisdom! Cheers, Brandon!
Daily Dose of Idiotjuice😂
@@va941 If you don't like it, why are you here? 🙄
@@lynoxberry1507because theists are good for a cheap laugh😂
That is true. Theist are great for a laugh.
@@kos-mos1127 feigned forced laughter from people who don't really know what they're talking about should be a crime. Insecurity is written all over the atheist position.
What a blessing! Thank you both.
Amen brotha, appreciate the hard work that went into researching these solid/meaningful questions.
Thank you! Stay blessed 😇
You're getting excellent guests on your show... CONGRATS 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks so much!! It’s a dream come true. Glory to God!
It was a blessing, thank you to you both!
Praise God! 🙌❤️
You are an excellent interviewer, Brandon, and John is a wonderful source of wisdom plainly and lovingly expressed. God bless you both ❤
Thank you for this magnificent interview 🙏
Excellent! Excited to have my kids watch this too.
@Abigail - So you're another Chrisitan subjecting their kids to child abuse. If you beleive in free will you need to let them decide for themselves who they'll listen too and what they believe. But you're too hypocritical for that so will shove christianity down their innocent little throats. Shame on you child abuser !!
Ok, I finally *got* his point about semantic content and material explanation with his “roast” example
The roast example doesn’t make any sense. The word roast is still just a description of reality.
Yes, this is the classic philosophical problem of intentionality.
Your content is great, thank you!
I've been waiting so long for this video ❤
We’ll done! Great show! Great guest! 👍🏻
Good questions for John!
And John? GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER
@@ssBrandonMcGuire bad bot
Great convo
Great iterview, G-dbless!
Your channel has helped to change my life over these past 2 months
Hallelujah!!
I feel considerably more dumb after watching this apologetic craziness.
That's likely because you want to disbelieve and didn't let the words so much as brush past your ears.
@@RognvaldiI've literally begged god, full on crying, screaming for help. It never came... Read on if you'd like to know more about this.
it has nothing to do with what I want to believe. I can't control what I believe or force myself to believe things I don't. Can I force you to believe something you don't believe? No. That is pure silliness. We don't choose what we do or don't believe.
I would LOVE to think I'm going to spend an eternity in pure bliss with all of the friends and family I've lost, while taking away the major medical problems I've dealt with for years now. That would be amazing!!!
I have a nerve disorder similar to trigeminal neuralgia, mine just affects more nerves than the trigeminal nerve alone. It is basically a nerve disorder of the entire face and head. Want to know the non medical name for it? The suicide disease. I have cried to God for help more times than I can count. Only to be left suffering to the point of torture. What did finally help was getting multiple surgeries, about 160 injections into my face, physical therapy, orthotic devices, very strong medications, etc. Now, people have the nerve to tell me, thank God you are feeling better! No no no... I asked God for help and he left me alone, crying in a car with my pew pew about to end it. I begged God for help many, many times. He never showed up. You mean, thank the doctors and medical teams that invested hundreds of hours trying to help me.
Before I got my bachelor's in biology, I was studying to be a pastor, and was taking religious studies, philosophy, and theology courses. Again, I asked and begged God for a sign almost daily and it never came. I had to take a 100 level biology course as part of my curriculum. It was then that I realized evolution wasn't what my pastor told me it was. He made a caricature of it. It became clear he didn't know what he was talking about. In that biology course I learned a lot. Mostly I learned that my church was either lying about most of this stuff, or simply didn't know and were speaking from a place of pure ignorance on these topics. The stuff I was SEEING in science made much, much more sense. And, on top of that, all of it had this stuff called evidence that backed all the claims it made. Religion did not have this and requires faith. After that, I wanted to dig in even deeper to see what else I could learn, or that my church had lied to me about. Again, I don't know if they were lying, or just ignorant when it came to science. That got me interested in learning all of things I thought I knew because my pastor told me, but really had no clue. I would say things like, I didn't come from a monkey! Evolution doesn't say we did either. So, why did my pastor and I keep saying that stuff? Pure ignorance. Everything I was learning in science could be seen by anyone who takes the time to look and actually learn about it or do the experiments.
Eventually, I finsished my bachelor's, and was still hungry for more. So, I got my masters in cellular/microbiology. But, I've also read multiple versions of the Bible cover to cover. Most Christians I know haven't done that. It is so weird to me that people will claim to live their life according to a book they've never read. Like wut...?
And, I would like to note I'm not making the claim that God doesn't exist. You are the one making the claim a god exists and I'm simply asking you to demonstrate that. Me saying I'm not convinced you're right, isn't the same thing as me saying god doesn't exist. In Court we have a guilty verdict, and a not guilty verdict. There's no such thing as an innocent verdict. Why? Because that would put the defendent in the position of having to prove a negative, and is generally impossible barring very strict criteria. So, you either have enough evidence to prove guilt, or you don't. The defender never has to prove they're innocent. The other side has to show evidence to prove guilt. But, just because they couldn't show enough evidence, doesn't mean the person is innocent. They could be guilty, and just not have enough to convict them. So again, we use the terms guilty, or not guilty. Not innocent, because that would place the burden of proof on the wrong person, and make them guilty until proven innocent. In this case, I'm not claiming there is no God. I'm simply saying I'm not convinced of the claim there is one.
I always have to use this for theists to get them to wrap their head around it. Say we have a jar of marbles on a table. Someone walks in and says, I know for a fact that jar has an even number of marbles in it. I ask you, do you believe them? You say, no. I say, so you must think it's odd then, got it! You say, no. I say, but you just said you didn't believe them that it was even. So, you MUST think it is odd. Again you say, no.
Do you see the issue here? Just because someone doubts a claim, doesn't mean the take the opposite position. We should reserve our judgment until we count the marbles. In the case here, you're saying you know for a fact a god exists, and asking if I believe you. I'm saying no. That doesn't mean I'm saying there is no God. Again, I'd be in the position of proving a negative, and that's not how logic works. The court system, which is heavily underpinned by philosophy and ethics, understands this. Which is why you don't have to prove innocence. If someone is making the claim you are guilty, the burden of proof is 100% on them to demonstrate such.
It's dumber, not more dumb. Not that degrees are everything, but this man has 3 doctoral degrees. At minimum, he is not likely to make the mistake you did. Perhaps you should reconsider your dismissiveness.
@@Rognvaldi why wouldn't I want to believe that when I die I go to a perfect utopia? You don't choose what you believe. For me, you either have good evidence for your beliefs, or you don't. The Bible is the claim, not the evidence.
I have a degree in cellular biology. His argument boils down to, I think the odds are too small for a cell to come into existence spontaneously. But, when you have a universe the size of ours with trillions upon trillions of galaxies, each containing billions and trillions of stars, which have trillions of planets in orbit around them. The odds, no matter how small, are still there happen. I am very familiar with his work, I've read a couple of his books, and I assure you, he's the laughing stock of the world of biology.
He's no different than a Muslim claiming the only way life can come into existence is with the help of their god. Otherwise, the odds are too small.
First, we only have one example of life coming about. So, the real odds life comes into existence on a plant like ours is 100%. The problem is, he has no control in place for any of his concepts, because they don't exist.
@@KevinGDrendel You don't understand the concept of superlatives and comparatives in language in that case. Dumber, would be if we had two things, and compared to the other. In this case, I am comparing my intelligence from before, and then after watching. So, a one to one comparison. It is comparative, and therfore the correct word is "dumber." It also has less than two syllables, and valid for that reason as well. Now, if we used a word like beautiful with more than two syllables, we wouldn't say beautifuler. If you compare more than two subjects/topics, you use the superlative form, more dumb.
You can thank me later for the English lesson. Bro, I'm a science major and learned all this in high school. If you think I'm wrong, post the link. Take your time. I'll wait...
Loved it. Subscribed. Bought the book. Thank you.
what a delightful conversation, thank you Brandon and John!
Lol where was the brilliant case for god? I must've missed it.
I dare you to pray to Jesus to save you. One prayer a sincere prayer. Ask god to reveal himself in your life. Come back in a week and deny him. But ask once. Just once and see what happens.
@Bleebleeblahblahblah I did that repeatedly for 22 years as a Christian. Your gawd was conspicuous by his absence.
1.So tell me, where in the video was the brilliant case for god that was claimed cos I couldn't find one?
2. And Doesn't the fact that not one of 2.4 billion Christians clearly can't provide a single scrap of credible evidence of your omnipotent omnibenevolent OMNIPRESENT god who alledgedly wants a relationship with me mean it probably doesn't exist?
Another point. Ive met many rich miserable people in my life and far more poor and happy. It seems the material world leaves little happiness. Of course i have met many miserable poor and many happy rich. The commonality I have noticed in those truly happy is their faith in God. Just a life observation. Excuse any spelling mistakes its late night as i look after my little one.
@Bleebleeblahblahblah Why did you run from the questions?
1.So tell me, where in the video was the brilliant case for god that was claimed cos I couldn't find one?
2. And Doesn't the fact that not one of 2.4 billion Christians clearly can't provide a single scrap of credible evidence of your omnipotent omnibenevolent OMNIPRESENT god who alledgedly wants a relationship with me mean it probably doesn't exist?
@@nickjones5435 good luck sir.
I love hearing how great minds reason or put things into perspective
Great discussion!!!
Thank you both for your time and dedication. I've been a believer for over half my life but it's such a blessing to listen to this conversation. Thanks guys❤.
Wow! An interview with John Lennox himself! Gonna watch this one a couple times.
8:40 I would say that they carry meaning because we invented the word and gave meaning to the word. The word itself has no meaning outside of what we give it. And we give it meaning based on the concepts we want the word to hold. So we observe something happening in the universe, and then we create a word that helps to describe this concept that we observed. And this is how words are created.
I think that's his point though...
Meaning only exists because it is invented by an inventor.
Concepts are not naturally occurring physical, material things that you see.
They are the result of a mind.
Nearly an hour of the show, im gonna have to take my time with this episode.
Enjoy & be blessed!
What a fantastic interview. Thank you
I love to listen to him. Thanks for a great interview.
Remember that time when scientists got together and talked about how much god plays a part in their fields? Me neither.
Science seeks the answer the how things happen whilst religion answers the why. It wouldn’t make much sense for scientists to sit around in a conference and talk about God in the same way English professors wouldn’t start talking about history and the origin of each word instead they’d focus on the language itself.
@@Jack-bi8mg That was my whole point.
In a chain of miracles necessary for our existence, the crowning miracle, is mind from matter. God.
A 3 pound piece of fat, able to come up with inventions, and surmise no God. It's still God, bless your mortal hearts.
It’s not a miracle. Nature is a whole and comprises existence. We abstract things from the Cosmos by using language and mathematics so we can manipulate them.
@kos-mos1127 What is not natural, is supernatural. Universe, life, and mind, are not of nature.
Love John Lennox. Thanks for posting this.
Thank you so much for the work you’re doing for the Kingdom with this channel!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
5:24 I'm glad to see that some Christians are starting to understand some of the beliefs the atheists have. And they're starting to understand how things logically follow from these beliefs. John did a good job of explaining how if Christians can make the claim that God is uncreated, then it logically follows that atheists can make the same fundamental claim about the universe.
The only problem with this claim regarding the universe though is Science.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say in your comment. Can you layout what the issue is with the claim as regards to science?
We know the universe had a beginning.
@@GodSoLoved.Yeshua we actually don't know the universe had a beginning. Before you say it, because I know that Christians always say this because they don't understand things, the Big Bang is not the beginning of the universe. The Big Bang only explains the expansion of the universe from a supposed singularity.
@@GodSoLoved.Yeshua we actually don't know the universe had a beginning. Remember the Big Bang isn't the beginning of the universe. It's the beginning of the expansion of the current form of the universe.
Wow. You collaborated at last. Great to see you both
Thanks!
When you cant even get the tittle of the video right...what hope is there for you 😂😂😂
🪞 🪞 🪞 When you can't even spell "title" correctly or use a question mark appropriately when mocking the mistakes of others....😂😂😂
Edits incoming....😂
@@bethezebra LOL, you small minded.
1, not my native language,
2, internet grammar police, lamest shit ever, well, maybe after theist.
3, notice you had to come at me for an extra letter in a word, LOL 😂Instead of the actual content of what I said.
U sTOoPid or WUT bRUH? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@bethezebra oh, nice, they are deleting comments here, surprize surprize 😂....ok bro, youve established yourself as a internet grammar Police, good job, well done, now maybe adress the actual point instead.
Ps, grammarly found 4 spelling/grammatical errors in your reply 🤡🤡🤡
@@va941 🤲🍪
@@bethezebra yeah, thats right, run and hide 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣