@@ChadHooverFishing I’m try to mount a transducer on the coosa x. Do I just secure it to that cover underneath the seat scupper? Does the cover have to be one when I’m on the water? Looking for insight, I’ve fished from a kayak for a number a years but just now getting into the world of fish finders.
Trying to decide between Coosa X and Nucanoe Frontier. Mainly for French broad Hoston Little pigeon. And some that have class 2 rapids. Which one do you think is better?
There is way more to putting a pedal drive in that just putting the whole in the deck. You have to install the rudder, rudder steering handle(s) the attachment system and the cost of the labor for doing all of that adds significantly to the price
That’s awesome! Glad y’all love ‘em. I actually love it when anyone has kayaks that they are happy with, especially when they get years of use out of them.
Well thats simple since the bonafide isnt much of a river boat. It can be used there but its a struggle. Flat water is where they shine, minus their super narrow seats.
@@scottbirchfield2016 Will see. Id like to see other solid boats come out. TBH competition is good for the consumer. Ive yet to watch the video on it. I was busy getting a bite for a good scouting/portaging kayak for use with my river crew. Sadly bonafide soured me with their lying and misleading capacity numbers. I will be hard pressed to purchase another one with their deception. Saying the ss127 has a capacity of 475, when in fact its 375 because for some misguided reason they factor boat weight in makes no sense. Had they stated this when I got my ss127 (They did NOT at the time anywhere when I got mine like they are currently doing) I never would have gotten it as I was looking for a stable boat to carry lots of gear, IE chainsaws, winches ropes etc to clear downed trees. I got my Big Rig HD shortly after the 127 and its been amazing. The SS127 is a decent boat, especially in flatwater. On the river in current is when it falls short. That super stable hull that makes it great on flatwater hurts it maneuvering in the river. Plus the seat is FARRR to narrow. Ive only got a 46" waist and that seat hurts me. I have to put a big seat pad on it to make up for it as my hips ride on the frame sides. Again I'm hopeful to see other quality boats out there as the competition will make it better for us. Both with features, innovation and hopefully prices.
I’m going to be answering these questions through my upcoming videos. I will do stand alone videos for each boat as I get better familiar with each and I will then be doing a comparison for them after I have enough experience in each and in various conditions so that I can objectively offer better feedback for each boat for the types of fishing and the conditions that an angler will likely encounter with each.
It will definitely “fit” but at a 425 pound capacity it doesn’t leave a ton of room for gear, especially if you have any intentions of Adding a motor and/or bigger batteries. It will definitely handle your height and weight.
@@ChadHooverFishing thank you for the insight, and everything you do for the fishing kayak hobby. Will have to get this kayak on my short list to try out. Looks like it has soo much more cockpit room then other kayaks.
@@ChadHooverFishing both you, chris, and alex are wonderful sources. Its costing me alot of money LOL. Chris's vids on the X and the comparison to the bigrig is what forced me to put one on order. I work with a non profit that clears trees from ohio and surrounding states waterways. If we cant hike in, we kayak in with all our gear which includes multiple saws, winches ropes etc. I have a Big rig HD, an SS127 and now a coosa X on order. This looked to be perfect when I didnt need the max carrying of the big rig. Your review just confirmed that decision.
yes. chriis shows the boat loaded at 425lbs and even overloaded at 525lbs. It didnt sacrifice stability or handling. Alex at tg canoes echoes the 425 rating. ua-cam.com/video/m5C6X5c0mDo/v-deo.html
Looking for a new river kayak and this grabbed my attention with the horizontal rod storage. To be honest it’s a disappointment u can’t use them when u add foot steering for a torqeedo. I do like the way the anchor wizard intergrades.
Great walkthrough. I fish a large body of water exclusively, but have a number of rivers and creeks close by. Your getting me fired up to try them and this looks like a great platform for that purpose
Nucanoe flint will still remain my river boat skinner and lighter than bonoafide, Jackson and crescent. And I like the gear pod you can purchase makes packing super easy especially if you don’t have a trailer and have to car top the boat and can’t keep it loaded with gear.
That’s awesome!! Whatever works for you works for you and the Flint is a great boat. It was a little tougher for me to stand, but I loved everything else about it! And you are right, it’s one of the best grab and go boats out there.
I think everyone has taken inspiration from someone. Just like Hobie took inspiration from the Berkley rod stagers you mount on your wall for their design. Tons of people were doing it DIY before Hobie did it. Everyone that has a frame seat took inspiration from Jackson, Hobie had a clip in seat before that and it was horrible. Tracks were all copied from Wilderness Systems. The list goes on and on and on. The great (and important) thing about it is that all boats are getting better and better and that means we (the anglers and consumers) all win. 👊🏻
I asked the same thing and the answer was because then you would have to have a tool to move it. When the seat goes from high to low (and vice versa) on the fly you need to be able to easily adjust the foot braces. I will likely either come up with something on my own (like a bar that goes across to serve as a mount and foot brace) and/or put new hardware in just like you said.
watched TG canoe and kayaks review of the RVR. I already despised Bonafides deceptive capacity ratings. However its even worse on the RVR. They rated the capacity at 329lbs which is less than bonafides. Bonafide misleadingly requires you to take the boat weight out of the capacity. Its absurd. so you take their "425" and subtracted 85lbs drops it to 340. This is nothing. Also I'm hearing reports of the rvr flexing in the middle.
You can’t really get “features” and “lightweight” because you when you make boats with this many features you have to allow for the structural rigidity to allow for them and prevent places that will crack or buckle and when you do all of that and ensure that it’s thick enough to avoid flex and early hull fatigue. I think that the better lightweight river boats are ones that just don’t have many features and you make that trade off.
@@ChadHooverFishing fair enough but the Coosa HD has plenty of features and after fishing it for years I never thought “man I wish this was wider and heavier.” To each their own but for river access which can be adventurous I’ll take a lighter rig, I’m sure bigger anglers might disagree but I’d love to see more inflatable’s and lighter options like the OG Coosa.
Nice looking yak but at 98 lbs not my river yak. But i like some of the features and layout. Also seems about 200-300 overpriced when looking at other similar river yaks that I would consider.
@@MysticalDragon73 yea but if im fishing small rivers and creeks im nit hauling 6 rods and tourney load of of tackle. Can keep the fancy extras. I want light, stable, and good paddling boat that handles swifter water. This equals crescent or nucanoe for me. This would make a nice catfishing kayak for me on larger bodies of waters and larger rivers. Not small creeks or skinny rivers.
@@chubbychernobyl445 Ive paddled a big rig on creeks and skinny rivers just fine. Sometimes fully loaded, other times not. I look at other manufacturers and keep coming back to the jacksons for quality, comfort and features. Also so many of these other boats weight ratings arent accurate. I sit down in a boat im at 300lsb withought extra water or gear. For many boats this puts me at or over their capacity rating. Then you have bonafide who is being misleading with their capacity ratings because you have to subtract the boat weight from them which is absurd. Yes I'm getting a coosa x as it is a bit smaller and better overall than my bigrig HD when I dont need the max capacity of the big rig. I'm also likely getting a bite for when I need a boat to scout in and use in the hard portages.
@@MysticalDragon73 i mean to each his own. Im not dragging 100 lb boat plus gear around. Jacksons are all just way too heavy. 999 for a crescent ck1 that is 63 lbs and has a higher listed weight capacity. Maybe im just a minimalist.
I took the quick clip stagers and mounted them to the track in the bed of my Tacoma…. Excellent way to transport my rods!
That's a great idea!
@@ChadHooverFishing I’m try to mount a transducer on the coosa x. Do I just secure it to that cover underneath the seat scupper? Does the cover have to be one when I’m on the water? Looking for insight, I’ve fished from a kayak for a number a years but just now getting into the world of fish finders.
i'll stick with Crescent LT after paddling the CoosaX.
Had so much fun on it my first time out, lots of room to modify it as you want.
Trying to decide between Coosa X and Nucanoe Frontier. Mainly for French broad Hoston Little pigeon. And some that have class 2 rapids. Which one do you think is better?
Shoulda put a hole in that deck for their drive.
There is way more to putting a pedal drive in that just putting the whole in the deck. You have to install the rudder, rudder steering handle(s) the attachment system and the cost of the labor for doing all of that adds significantly to the price
Me and my wife both have the first coosas and we love them...
That’s awesome! Glad y’all love ‘em. I actually love it when anyone has kayaks that they are happy with, especially when they get years of use out of them.
We need a jackson , crescent, bonafide river show down.
It’s coming. In fact, I plan to organize it with all of the representatives from each company.
Well thats simple since the bonafide isnt much of a river boat. It can be used there but its a struggle. Flat water is where they shine, minus their super narrow seats.
@@MysticalDragon73 the bonafide rvr 119 will give the coosa x and the shoalie a battle for best river kayak
@@scottbirchfield2016 Will see. Id like to see other solid boats come out. TBH competition is good for the consumer. Ive yet to watch the video on it. I was busy getting a bite for a good scouting/portaging kayak for use with my river crew.
Sadly bonafide soured me with their lying and misleading capacity numbers. I will be hard pressed to purchase another one with their deception. Saying the ss127 has a capacity of 475, when in fact its 375 because for some misguided reason they factor boat weight in makes no sense. Had they stated this when I got my ss127 (They did NOT at the time anywhere when I got mine like they are currently doing) I never would have gotten it as I was looking for a stable boat to carry lots of gear, IE chainsaws, winches ropes etc to clear downed trees. I got my Big Rig HD shortly after the 127 and its been amazing.
The SS127 is a decent boat, especially in flatwater. On the river in current is when it falls short. That super stable hull that makes it great on flatwater hurts it maneuvering in the river. Plus the seat is FARRR to narrow. Ive only got a 46" waist and that seat hurts me. I have to put a big seat pad on it to make up for it as my hips ride on the frame sides.
Again I'm hopeful to see other quality boats out there as the competition will make it better for us. Both with features, innovation and hopefully prices.
Might have missed this video, but it's the one we all want
i have a Bonafide ss 127 how does it compare
Fancy
Chad if you’re were going to by a river boat . Rvr or coosa x . Pros and cons on both thanks
I’m going to be answering these questions through my upcoming videos.
I will do stand alone videos for each boat as I get better familiar with each and I will then be doing a comparison for them after I have enough experience in each and in various conditions so that I can objectively offer better feedback for each boat for the types of fishing and the conditions that an angler will likely encounter with each.
Looking good. Will it fit a 6'5" 380lb man?
It will definitely “fit” but at a 425 pound capacity it doesn’t leave a ton of room for gear, especially if you have any intentions of
Adding a motor and/or bigger batteries. It will definitely handle your height and weight.
@@ChadHooverFishing thank you for the insight, and everything you do for the fishing kayak hobby. Will have to get this kayak on my short list to try out. Looks like it has soo much more cockpit room then other kayaks.
@@TechyTechAdvanced go to chris's channel he shows it overloaded at 525 lbs and its still stable and handles well.
awesome walkthrough sir, y'all hit every aspect of it with great explanations for each feature!
Thanks Chris. Luckily, I had a good cheat sheet to go from by watching all of your videos on it.
@@ChadHooverFishing both you, chris, and alex are wonderful sources. Its costing me alot of money LOL. Chris's vids on the X and the comparison to the bigrig is what forced me to put one on order.
I work with a non profit that clears trees from ohio and surrounding states waterways. If we cant hike in, we kayak in with all our gear which includes multiple saws, winches ropes etc. I have a Big rig HD, an SS127 and now a coosa X on order. This looked to be perfect when I didnt need the max carrying of the big rig. Your review just confirmed that decision.
Can you even install foot control steering on this thing?
425 useable pounds?
yes. chriis shows the boat loaded at 425lbs and even overloaded at 525lbs. It didnt sacrifice stability or handling. Alex at tg canoes echoes the 425 rating. ua-cam.com/video/m5C6X5c0mDo/v-deo.html
Looking for a new river kayak and this grabbed my attention with the horizontal rod storage. To be honest it’s a disappointment u can’t use them when u add foot steering for a torqeedo. I do like the way the anchor wizard intergrades.
That was my initial impression as well and I think I may have a couple of work arounds in mind that I will share along the way.
Chad, do you think an aftermarket pod between the floor track with side mounted foot pegs would be a good product?
Yes, so much so that I’m already twisting Duke’s arm to make it. 😜
Great walkthrough. I fish a large body of water exclusively, but have a number of rivers and creeks close by. Your getting me fired up to try them and this looks like a great platform for that purpose
Kayak fishing creeks and small rivers is a ton of fun. Give it a shot.
Nucanoe flint will still remain my river boat skinner and lighter than bonoafide, Jackson and crescent. And I like the gear pod you can purchase makes packing super easy especially if you don’t have a trailer and have to car top the boat and can’t keep it loaded with gear.
I have a crescent ck1 it is very similar to the flint, love it.
That’s awesome!! Whatever works for you works for you and the Flint is a great boat. It was a little tougher for me to stand, but I loved everything else about it! And you are right, it’s one of the best grab and go boats out there.
I’ve heard that from quite a few people.
They definitely have taken inspiration from Hobie! Copied the rod stagers for sure. Good looking rig
I think everyone has taken inspiration from someone. Just like Hobie took inspiration from the Berkley rod stagers you mount on your wall for their design. Tons of people were doing it DIY before Hobie did it. Everyone that has a frame seat took inspiration from Jackson, Hobie had a clip in seat before that and it was horrible. Tracks were all copied from Wilderness Systems. The list goes on and on and on. The great (and important) thing about it is that all boats are getting better and better and that means we (the anglers and consumers) all win. 👊🏻
Why not reengineer the foot pedals to have the locking nut on the other side.
I asked the same thing and the answer was because then you would have to have a tool to move it. When the seat goes from high to low (and vice versa) on the fly you need to be able to easily adjust the foot braces. I will likely either come up with something on my own (like a bar that goes across to serve as a mount and foot brace) and/or put new hardware in just like you said.
Awesome kayak! How’s the rig ability of it?
Thanks Colsen. The rigability with the Tri-Track is actually off the charts.
i want one
Great video! Great review from 2 of the best in the game! Can’t wait to watch the on the water and comparison video to the RVR119! 👍👍😀
watched TG canoe and kayaks review of the RVR. I already despised Bonafides deceptive capacity ratings. However its even worse on the RVR. They rated the capacity at 329lbs which is less than bonafides. Bonafide misleadingly requires you to take the boat weight out of the capacity. Its absurd. so you take their "425" and subtracted 85lbs drops it to 340. This is nothing. Also I'm hearing reports of the rvr flexing in the middle.
Very nice boat, but not enough for me to spend the money to upgrade from my HD
I imagine if I had the HD already I would likely be in the same boat. (See what I did there… 😂😂😂)
@@ChadHooverFishing i have an HD and Coosa X side by side comparison video on my channel if ya get a wild hair. fixin' to watch your video right now!
The side by side video: ua-cam.com/video/ZIzQYQzjHjA/v-deo.html and the weight comparison vids are AWESOME. ua-cam.com/video/m5C6X5c0mDo/v-deo.html
@@MysticalDragon73 thank you!
Very cool features, especially the rod tubes, but way too big and heavy for my use. A lighter weight version would be awesome!
You can’t really get “features” and “lightweight” because you when you make boats with this many features you have to allow for the structural rigidity to allow for them and prevent places that will crack or buckle and when you do all of that and ensure that it’s thick enough to avoid flex and early hull fatigue. I think that the better lightweight river boats are ones that just don’t have many features and you make that trade off.
@@ChadHooverFishing fair enough but the Coosa HD has plenty of features and after fishing it for years I never thought “man I wish this was wider and heavier.” To each their own but for river access which can be adventurous I’ll take a lighter rig, I’m sure bigger anglers might disagree but I’d love to see more inflatable’s and lighter options like the OG Coosa.
Nice looking yak but at 98 lbs not my river yak. But i like some of the features and layout. Also seems about 200-300 overpriced when looking at other similar river yaks that I would consider.
Thanks for the comment and feedback.
yeah but most of those other boats arent nearly as capable or same quality. I keep looking and trying nad keep coming back to jacksons.
@@MysticalDragon73 yea but if im fishing small rivers and creeks im nit hauling 6 rods and tourney load of of tackle. Can keep the fancy extras. I want light, stable, and good paddling boat that handles swifter water. This equals crescent or nucanoe for me. This would make a nice catfishing kayak for me on larger bodies of waters and larger rivers. Not small creeks or skinny rivers.
@@chubbychernobyl445 Ive paddled a big rig on creeks and skinny rivers just fine. Sometimes fully loaded, other times not. I look at other manufacturers and keep coming back to the jacksons for quality, comfort and features. Also so many of these other boats weight ratings arent accurate. I sit down in a boat im at 300lsb withought extra water or gear. For many boats this puts me at or over their capacity rating. Then you have bonafide who is being misleading with their capacity ratings because you have to subtract the boat weight from them which is absurd. Yes I'm getting a coosa x as it is a bit smaller and better overall than my bigrig HD when I dont need the max capacity of the big rig. I'm also likely getting a bite for when I need a boat to scout in and use in the hard portages.
@@MysticalDragon73 i mean to each his own. Im not dragging 100 lb boat plus gear around. Jacksons are all just way too heavy. 999 for a crescent ck1 that is 63 lbs and has a higher listed weight capacity. Maybe im just a minimalist.