Billy's Expert Negotiation for Acquiring Ricardo Rincon | Moneyball (Brad Pitt, Jonah Hill)
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2023
- M dears, let's delve into this situation. Billy Beane (Brad Pitt) aims to trade Mike Magnante for the talented Ricardo Rincon from Cleveland, all while avoiding Rincon's remaining salary. His plan involves offering Mike Venafro to other teams interested in Rincon. Yet, the challenge lies in the A's limited funds, forcing Beane to negotiate shrewdly to acquire players without incurring full salaries.
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🎬Moneyball (2011): Billy Beane (Brad Pitt), general manager of the Oakland A's, one day has an epiphany: Baseball's conventional wisdom is all wrong. Faced with a tight budget, Beane must reinvent his team by outsmarting the richer ball clubs. Joining forces with Ivy League graduate Peter Brand (Jonah Hill), Beane prepares to challenge old-school traditions. He recruits bargain-bin players whom the scouts have labeled as flawed, but have game-winning potential. Based on the book by Michael Lewis.
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Can we all just give Suzanne a round of applause getting all them people on the phone so quick
Suzanne had them all on shortcuts or speeddial
She was a paid actor. They were already on the phone. Do not be fooled
Guys, thats the last day of the playee trade offs. Every manager would grow roots near the phone during them last 24 hours.
@@ExcitedBaseball-xq1nr I thought it was real I didn’t know they recreated it
@@mathewwilliams4352 you are welcome! Have a wonderful evening secure in the knowledge you know now and forevermore henceforth and hitherto
I've seen this movie at least a dozen times, and every time I hear him referring to "Anderson" as "Michaelson" it kills me 🤣
And every time the other GMs come back with “______? I like _____.” “You don’t even know who _____ is.”
@@gurk_the_magnificent9008 or my favorite "No you don't, nobody does! I don't even know why I'm doing this!"
one of my all time favs...
“You don’t even know who Eckerton is” always kills me 😂😂😂
Is Venefro hurt?
Spitting out the popcorn kernel always kills me too lol
Not to dampen the mood but the guy they sent down was 1 month away from being fully vested in MLB’s pension….never pitched again and became a math teacher. Professional sports is a cruel world man…
He still lived out a dream that only the top 1% of the 1% that play a sport get to experience. There’s countless players that got injured in college or high school and never got to experience their dream of playing in the major leagues
Who was it?
@@autonomouspilgrimage6137 while that is a nice silver lining, the human experience is about failure and adjusting to be successful. It's hard to see going from being an almost MLB pensionier to Math teacher as anything but failure, objectively, but I bet, and hope that the mlb player in question feels like it all worked out.
@@animal10.05 it’s also hard to see a dream never come to fruition, end up working a dead end job making nothing, and NEVER make it to the majors.
Making it to the majors and playing isn’t a failure….never making it is the true failure if we are being cynical about it
@@darthjar9117Mike Magnante
Suzanne was later traded to Boston for a clerk to be named later.
I think it was Denise, acquired from the Mets.
I realize this is a movie adaptation, but I love watching people who are excellent at what they do.
I don't think enough is said about how difficult it is being the GM for a small market team. $225K would be chump change for a team like the Yankees or Dodgers. George Steinbrenner likely wiped his ass with a wad of Benjamins.
Even in this movie, the Yankees pay David Justice to play against them.
Around the time of this movie, the Astros had a real internal document leaked that had e-mails and texts with trade talks and they sounded exactly like this. It's literally fantasy sports for real.
“Fantasy sports for real”…. So….. sports?
@@dylankrejci9965 lmao funny comment fr, but "sports" already refers to the game played by the players themselves - not sure what the "proper" name of the game played by the owners and managers of the teams is, but it sure is an exclusive one lol
Maybe that's why this scene feels authentic.
@@dylankrejci9965i think the OP is trying to say that we think GMs sound like Harvard Lawyers when in reality they sound like 2 dudes in a bar
He’s eating popcorn out of a coffee filter! 😂 great detail
I love it! "If it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid."
Yes, attention to details. Sells that they are on a shoe string budget.
I do that all the time! 🍿
@@sn4rl277 It's not really a budget thing, bowls aren't expensive... It's more of a convenience thing, the pressure cooker of constantly wracking your brain to try and build a winning team has you taking shortcuts on the mundane things in life.
And Pitt is known for his acting while eating. Watch any of the Oceans movies.
"Yes, I, I added the please at the end" 🤣4:18
I laugh so hard when he 1. hits the “end call” button, and THEN 2. says “call you back.”
That and the assistant going in for the second high five and Billy's already moved on. Every time.
..that was the mute button.
@@killthecardinals Nah. He never muted himself on that call, which is why they are whispering. In other calls, they use the mute, but not that one.
@@killthecardinalsif that was the mute button, when does he hang up?
he doesn't that's the mistake but they left it in. you can even see brad pitt kind of fidget afterwards as if he was about to yell cut and redo the scene but he kept rolling instead@@justAman548
The acting. The chemistry. This movie is amazing even for non baseball fans.
This is probably Brad Pitt's finest acting.
i agree. Im not the biggest Pitt fan but hes money in this. Pun intended.
@@eadams1057 and Jonah is ball? That's body shaming
This is my favorite Pitt role. I wonder where he rates it on his list of accomplishments.
totally agree. Not a huge fan but awesome in this.
@@eadams1057 He was awesome in so many roles love him or not.
Suzenne is a hell of a secretary..
She then got an offer from the Sox, which would've been the highest secretary salary of all time in all of spirts.
@@robertvanderwall6919 so basically she's the Donna of the baseball world.
I like the little detail of him using a drip coffee filter as a popcorn bowl.
4:26 The look when he says please lol, "dont ruin it man!"
Great movie, I've seen it many times.
I don't know what happened, but it was very exciting.
I appreciate that he hung up the phone before saying "call you back".
He unmuted it because he’d muted it before to talk to Jonah’s character
@@kaiz3nberg Finally! I know Brad Pitt would never make that kind of mistake -- but it really looked like it until you explained the reason.
The thumbnail makes me believe Brad Pitt could play Steve Irvin in a movie.
Brooooooo. I'm on board, but there are so many great Aussie Actors. Be a shame to give it to a yank.
No way could he do Steve's accent. I've met Ozzies who can't do it
Steve Irwin you mean?
@@Turdfurgasonschode yup. Care so little about the internet it took 3 months to even notice lol
@@averiezonn8663Brad pit instantly makes the movie more money
Damn it, now I need to watch this movie again.
Masterclass in acting and film work right here, the ease and realness to the scene is amazing. It done so well because of a few things.
1.) both actors sell the scene. Pitt and Hill do a great job at making the conversation not only between themselves sound so smooth and realistic but also the conversations between them and the others around them. They also know what they’re talking about which helps the scene along. Clearly they did their research to sound as knowledgeable as they could. It comes off smoother and less rigid then when you just rehearse the scene.
2.) silence. No music. It lets you hone in on what they’re talking about rather than grandeur of the situation. This is a BIG trade. There’s alot on the line to get rincón, Most movies would add suspense or a huge song to add to the success of it.
3.) camera work. It’s a simple OTS (over-the-shoulder) shot. No wild camera work to distract you, just simple camera shots to convey what’s most important. The dialogue!
Honkey fan thinks he knows bAseball
0:33 I always loved how he hung up on him *FIRST* and then said "call you back"😂
"who am i getting fleeced for?" 😂😂
"because im amazinggg 😏"
gotta love this character
I'm weird. I love baseball, and to me everything about it is magic. Even this kind of magic.
Crazy how 90% of the best baseball players in the world are living their life like they’re object getting traded and traded
I could watch this scene 100 times and still never fully understand WTF just happened...
I had to take notes myself:
He wants Rincon from the Indians, but there are two problems: 1) Rincon is too expensive, and 2) the Indians are already planning on trading him to the Giants.
Billy solves problem 2 by offering Venafro (a similar player to Rincon) to the Giants for cheap. He knows the Giants won't accept, but his offer will make them less eager for Rincon. He's so confident that the Giants won't take his offer that he (needlessly) offers Venafro to the Mets before even hearing back from the Giants.
Sure enough, the Indians phone back, presumably after learning the Giants don't really want Rincon anymore. Billy then solves problem 1 by offering to pay for Rincon out of his own pocket.
@@cherkovision He got $225,000 and a player for Venafro to solve the financial issue, and he was tired of the manager always bringing him out of the pen instead of the guys Beane wanted to play, which means it wasn’t meaningless to trade Venafro.
My bad, I confused Venafro with Magnante. He did clear out salary by dumping Venafro though
@@cherkovisionBilly paying for Rincon out of his own pocket hits different in 2024 when you realize how cheap the A's are in real life.
@@Rookie_Mode2023 that reminds me of something that I've been wondering: was Billy Beane actually offering to pay for Rincon himself? Or was it just a bluff to get Steve to fork out the money? Like, once Steve found out that Rincon could be sold back for more money, he was okay with footing the bill.
@@cherkovisionthat was my thinking too. Didn't Rincon still have $500k on his contract? so wasn't Billy reliant on selling Venafro and getting $225k one way or another?
How i feel making my yearly fantasy football trade with my brother or father.
As a former player I smile at this meat market. These are people being dealt. If you’ve never been traded…you don’t know the feeling.
You've not been trade yourself lmao
Did you get traded from little league?
Better than getting cut :)
@@lyingcat9022 I’ve been cut, had teams fold, and also didn’t make it in a couple of tryouts. Tryouts are worst as you feel you controlled it and just didn’t deliver.
@@MMAjsf7 I played ice hockey
yes, I added the please
“Why would I call Phillips?”
lol
One of my favorite movies ever. I can't tell u the last at bat I've watched of baseball
Love how he hung up and then said call you back lol 😂
0:35 just realized he hung up before telling him he will call him back and it looks like brad realizes this, but keeps on acting :D
Just once I'd like to hear Billy Beane say "This is somewhat true"....meaning calls like this to make trades... LOL
This scene is fairly true to what happened in real life as documented by Michael Lewis in his book, on which the movie was based.
@@mrpink99 Very cool! Thanks!
@@itsnotme07 The timeline is compressed, though, in order to make it a "scene". How many phone calls took place in a 5 minute timeframe?
@@cvindustries Sure, I agree...but what if it was real time like that? Crazy right? Haha.
I believe in the book they had a two hour deadline for some reason. So, not quite as fast as this but relatively reasonable given the Hollywood treatment.
at 0:36 he hangs up before saying "call you back" 😄
Gotta imagine the level of excitement they feel can be overwhelming at times that leads to stuff like this
That was some professional, major league level phone tagging
0.36 he hangs up AND THEN says call you back :P
The way he grabs the popcorn 😂
Someone needs to break this scene down and explain exactly what’s going on and who is benefitting and how because a lot of this went over my head.
The quiet clenching of the fist as the owner agrees to put up the money to pay for Rincon😅
4:54 Jonah Hill is amazing in this movie. A great actor!
He really is. He looks like some guy you would see in the grocery store anyday
Yes…I….I….I added the please at the end…
and Billy's face after that. I love that little addition.
This is classic Win-Win deal making; everyone gets something they can be happy with.
Except for the guy who loses his pension and forced to become q maths teacher
Except the players that are traded like objects, without considering anything about them.
Except when they dont pan out. Remember that Nets trade for a "super team" was "legendary win win".
Until you have to send someone down a league. Where it can be a couple of seasons of Triple AAA until you make it to The Show again.
But sometimes there’s Win Win Win
He hung up--and then said ill call you back😳
i need a flow diagram of this
Weirdly my favorite part is when he's eating popcorn and has to spit it out mid chew.. Kills me everytime
Pete is too funny, you can see he's very passionate but also a socially inapt nerd who's trying to get into sports.
I'm so completely un-athletic and a huge nerd and I grew up loving sports. Give me box scores and statistics any day of the week. There is nothing I love more than minutiae.
@@jimmyhunter1810 When stats became a thing in basketball a lot of players were angry at people like you 😂, even though you're the best thing that happened to them. I wish people were data informed like that in all facets of life, especially in serious ones, like Tetlock said. With me i was the stereotypical nerd who's bad at sports and hates them until i went to the gym after school and saw "holy shit, im pretty fricking good!!!"
The awkward second go for a high five transitioning into a thoughtful mouth hold 😂
Sounds like my first time in the sheets. I had no idea what was going on but it was very exciting.
Any stories?
See, I don’t even know his name, he sounds like an Oakland A already.
I like the error at the 37 second mark where he hits the hang up button and then says that he will call him back.
It's so sad how the A" have deteriorated on purpose.
What do you mean?
@@aquiro it's the complete opposite of the movie.
pathetic - yes ... sad - NO
FUCKING LOVED this movie.
1:37
“No you don’t nobody likes Anderson” 😂
suzanne deserves a box of chocolates and a raise for how she coordinated this joint strike MY GAAAHD
2:03 what’s the name of the effect???
This scene reminds me of playing fantasy leauge and having multiple computers with multiple screens on discord and skype telling people ill trade Anderson for Michaelson trying to get a team with good stats, exactly like this movie.
Pathetic
Its a good thing billy kept mulder ,zito, hudson , chavez ,long hernandez and tejada😅
It’s weird how many times I’ve watched this scene. Enough to notice that Pitt hits the button on his phone to hang up before he says “call you back”
He’s hanging the phone before saying “I’ll call you back”
Can anyone tell me why he hits his desk so much at the towards the end?
I am not sure about this, but it seems that the Michaelson /Anderson mistake wasnt on script but Brad sold it so well it looks part of it.
He actually wasn’t sent down he was DFA. Yeah that’s the saddest part of this scene you are right he was close to getting a full pension and he never received it
So was Billy serious when he said he’d pay for Rincone himself but he’s keeping the profit or was that just a bluff to get Schot to give in?
Yes.
I love how Shapiro gets absolutely schooled in this video, and then my Jays decided that was the man they wanted to hire. FML
This is the Tour not Worlds
Brad just crushes this scene. So satisfying
“I dont even know his name”😂😂😂
“You don’t even know who Eckerton is” 😂
Never saw the movie… but that Brad Pitt is one heck of an actor! Not just looks … he just kills in his roles! Respect… except for him dumping Aniston for that crazy lady 😮
Hangs up on Shapiro and then says, “call ya back.”
Ooooppss
4:20 It’s interesting how Billy makes a disapproving face when Peter say please at the offer, it’s like a dad to his son
Six minutes of a movie trusting its audience.
Billy Bean is unreal. He looks just like Brad Pitt in thismovie!!
Poor phones, never worked that hard in their entire lifes.
Why have I never heard of this movie?? I have to see it
It’s a great movie
Rincon actually played for the A's for 3 1/2 seasons, so Beane did not trade him to someone else.
He presses the mute/hangup button before saying "call you back".
Popcorn from a coffee filter. Guy is in different reality during the season
How do baseball transfers work?
you see one team trades a player for another or draft picks or cash......... then gets something in return.......
for 2 second i put myself in the skin of the chacter of Hill, right on the spot drinking the first coffee
need to do a BIG move...
eh..
ok Welcome to the Big League!
Brad Pitt hangs up before he says "I'll call you back"
This might be Brads most snacky movie
I think he's eating something in every scene in Ocean's Eleven.
He eats in half the scenes in every movie he's in. I'm pretty sure it's in his contract. Just like Tom Hanks must be shown peeing at least one time.
He hangs up on him. then says "call ya back."
Hands down the best scene of the movie.
How I feel playing fantasy baseball
Hangs up,
I'll call ya back 😂
Suzanne
This is probably what benjis doing at West tigers
“No you don’t nobody likes Anderson 😂”
I like how he hangs up before he says I'll call you back
Funny cause eckerton allowed 13 runs in 17 innings 😅 for the A's
can’t wait for brad pitt to ham it up in the steve irwin biopic
This is what Todd Boehly did the first 6 months after the purchase of Chelsea. The only screw-up in this is Football doesn't work this way.
Rincon 🤣 how did that work out for the A’s???? 🤣🤣🤣
fine?
how this movie not get nominated or even win Best Pic...beats the hell out of me.
You want to make a good movie get Jonah Hill as your sidekick 😅
I WANT THIS KIND OF SCENE BUT IN FOOTBALL 🥳🥳🥳
FOOTBALL THE REAL FOOTBALL WHERE PLAYERS USE THEIR FEET TO KICK TO BALL TO THE NET
BE IT SANTIAGO MUNEZ OR WHOEVER I JUST WANTED THIS KIND OF SCENE 🎉🎉🎉
I don’t understand the fk, but I like it 😅
This movie rules
Sha pie or? Not Sha peer ro?