Decoding Noita's Truly Hidden Lore (early access)
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2020
- Probably the most herculean effort that took place early in the game's life was the hunt for Noita's glyphs - encoded texts written on the background of the world in various, mostly extremely hidden, locations. This video details the location of all of the English glyphs before discussing the lore in a little more depth.
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Noita is a magical action roguelite set in a world where every pixel is physically simulated. Fight, explore, melt, burn, freeze and evaporate your way through the procedurally generated world using spells you've created yourself. Explore a variety of environments ranging from coal mines to freezing wastelands while delving deeper in search for unknown mysteries.
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"We stole your time, your money and your sanity" -Todd Howard gently whispers into my ear, as I once again, without success, try to refund my copy of Fallout 76
lol, I actually just reinstalled F76 and am planning to play it again on stream soon xD
@@FuryForged y tho
Oh dear
@@FuryForged so you have chosen death
Instablaster.
I like how it says “massive spoilers” as if a normal player would actually find this
It spoiled Hell for me
@Ratigan2 be honest, you weren't going to find that
literally just found this on my own because of impatience clearing the lava lol
Every other game: "Oh, Extremely Dense Rock. This is like the map border, you just can't make your way through it."
Noita: "Actually, all the complex lore is somewhere in here, go hunting."
ok here's where the cursed rock starts, it kills you. this is the end, I can finally rest.
Noita: lol no
@@LCTesla Hi Billy Mays here!
"Devoted seeker of true wisdom. Know this: we are watching you."
The devs are saying they watch your videos, FF.
@Charlie Brecken Bet you and Van Ricky can’t beat a captcha for human verification fucking bot.
The devs are mocking us for buying their game
That doesn't make sense because it's a good game and actually worth buying
I bought it, but noita crashes when I trying to open
Sounds like the makings of a triple A developer.
@@sylkiri Yeah I haven't bought this, and only watched game clips like this. HA TAKE THAT!! GOD OF GODS!!
But at the same time they're watching videos of those devoted seekers of truth and having fun seeing people lose their time and sanity trying to uncover more "secrets" :P
actually its just: "hey would'nt it be cool if we write some meaningfull sounding but totally meaningless stuff randomly all over the world and make people loose their minds about it?" "OMG thats brilliant Kevin!"
Reminds me of the end of Majoras Mask with the Kids on the Three. Sounds meaningfull but is it realy?
It actually all boils down to the dev being bored and putting that stuff in the game so he can watch people lose their "time, money and sanity" as they put it so he can watch UA-cam videos of those devoted seekers of truth who think there's something profound in the game while the dev is just laughing his butt off while eating popcorn >:P
@@LordDragox412 *CEASE YOUR INVESTIGATIONS*
Teacher: "the author uses the crow to signify death, destruction etc."
Author: "I like crows."
Its not meaningless at all.
Its telling the player character (Minä or whoever), that the internal cosmology of the game has all been created by 'we' (the developers), and that the one who took away their free will is the 'god of gods' (the player).
The further tablets adress the god of guds (us, the player), saying that in searching for these secrets and doing whatever we have not cheated them (the author of the runes, the developers), but they have cheated us, because they stole our time money and sanity (self evident), we unvittingly aided them in their creation (QA input during early access).
Its all very 4th wall breaking, but its also told from a canonical perslective within the games cosmology.
this seems to really draw heavily from Gnosticism as well, with the "God of Gods" being a fairly close analog to the Monad and the "Gods from the Egg" as the Demiurge. Gnosticism also means "having knowledge" in ancient Greek, and isn't that what Noita is really about? (both in-game and irl)
Small correction, from someone currently studying koine Greek:
γινώσκομεν (ginoskomen) means "we know".
And though this is the term where Gnosticism comes from. The term Gnostic came from this term for knowledge. and Gnosticism is not merely about knowledge, rather it is a belief in a hidden or secret knowledge that only those who are elect can find and attain. With incorporated elements of Mysticism. This is why there are "Gnostic gospels" as they are additional writings created much later that spoke of hidden knowledge and other things that are contradictory to the canonised gospels in the Bible.
Also because the Gnostics were killed off during the conception of what we now consider the Catholic Church. Their traditions and practices were lost to time, but their ideals were adopted by certain hermetic orders. Like the hermetic order of the Golden Dawn and Oreo tempai orientis. So Gnosticism and hermeticism do mix well together and have history.
@@Grayson.P Gnosis implies more than onowledge I believe. It would better translate as recognition or understanding.
And gnosticism is indeed a christian sect in its final form, though it originates from platonic philosophy, the concepr of the world being a facade captured by our fallible senses, and the existence of a more xomplete world of ideals beyond it.
It also personifies the biblical god who creates the imperfect world we inhibit as an antagonistic force, and true knowledge found in the world of ideals as the 'god of gods'.
Hermetic tradition, and european alchemical phylosophy indeed has ties to gnosticism and platonic philosophy, and the nature of the game as a world created by an author also fits into the picture.
You can see similar plot elements in the elder scrolls franchise for example.
Why would the devs say they are believed to be false gods?
Does the protagonist character have their own set of beliefs distinct from our knowledge?
Have their words been uncovered before by other in-universe characters or societies we do not know about and have been deemed false gods?
Or are they preempting what judgement would befall them by those who already believe in a true god, and have yet to be discovered in-universe?
KingMako30 because the devs ARE believed to be false gods. They created a false world: a video game.
Developers are false gods to all but that which they govern. If you spend countless hours hunting glyphs in their game, they could be considered your gods because they "took away" your free will by inspiring you to do this. However, they have not infinite power. They can't *make* me search for these glyphs, they can only place them there. If eventually I read these glyphs, then it was my fate to read them, and they created the glyphs, so they created (at least in part) my future.
Pretty deep
11:04 "I'll tell you what you get, Noita. YOU GET WHAT YOU F***ING DESER"
That's an underrated comment.
The 3rd really says something. Besides the good price and the 10% off sale, Noita does a really good job of chewing down your time and insanity.
Traversing chasms for orbs and even for these glyphs are no joke. The ambience, the loniless, and the brilliant eerie bgm contributes alot of factor to make you think how far will you go just to find the runes. It's really unnerving and a creepy experience.
Imagine the time it took for these players to find these small pieces of glyphs in extremely hard to find places OR if you unintentionally see the. when you are actually just destroying your way into the earth. That is why one of the glyphs says *you can't destroy us* because that ehat must've what a good percent of players have been doing through their gameplay. Just trying to destroy the world with op wands. That thought and the thought of our free will which "they" gave us is just the devs saying that they have pretty much *anticipated what will you be doing next* and so the glyphs you see is the product of your curiosity and a nod to the devs which they knew you will eventually find. So you really only have choices, not free will. Since everything you do is under the scope of the devs and they have pretty much expected the next action you will make.
Well first, they're devs, they can do anything, and two; it doesn't matter if we destroy worlds because we can create them infinitely, and choices are what humans make by default. There are better questions to be made.
But choices ARE free will, what are you on about?
@@Akirasip Free will is the power to act without the constraint of fate. If the devs already planned your fate (Whether that be playing the game the intended way, or breaking through every wall you see), then you have no free will.
@@Akirasip if I locked you in a room and said “ kill yourself or your mother or you both die“ you have 3 choices, kill yourself, kill your mother or you both die. In what way does this scenario of choices have your free will in mind?
Having choices forced on you is not free will, freedom of choice is free will.
In the context of noita we can only make choices based on the exact guidelines the devs have laid out in the game, there is tons of choice, but only when relative to its own universe.
For instance, if noita let me express true free will, I would code smash bros melee into a wand.
That 12th glyph made me think it might be the player speaking to the wizard we're controlling, because we didn't "give our free will" to the devs, but technically, if the wizard had free will before we started playing, that would mean the wizard "gave" its free will to us. Also, we were the reason that the wizard searched out and read the glyphs, which the glyphs also mention is the result of being controlled by "the true god".
Also, why do your videos keep not showing up in my Subscriptions feed? :< I think you might be missing out on like a ton of views because of that
Do you have the notification bell "rung"? Even if you do, yeaaah, UA-cam does things like that if the algorithm "thinks" a certain person isn't interested in watching your videos. It's one of the major hardships of making content on here.
Yeah that was my thought with the last set of glyphs as well, so nice to see I wasn't alone on this. That said "us" being the writer doesn't make as much sense when you take the entire 12 at once, such as being the creators of everything... although maybe it does. While we didn't make the game itself, it is working from our computers, so while we didn't design the game, we are the ones responsible for any one instance of that world existing.
The wizard could be helping "us" by offering simple entertainment, fighting and dying cause it is a game to us. As for all the time, money and sanity we stole from the wizard, that can be quite literal. All the literal time the wizard has to spend in our game, how his gold is used to buy new toys for the game, and the fact that diving into deep underground is not really a sane thing to do.
April great idea
@@TheDaris36 I think perhaps the runes represent us, the developers and the players. We, all of us, are the "True God". The developers made this world, we tear through it in search of knowledge, and the little creatures who inhabit the world have surrendered themselves to us. The runes could be speaking to multiple people, or talking about multiple things. The final glyphs may be referring to both players and the character we control.
Yeah, the text adresses the player character.
The 'your god' is the midsummer loon mentioned in the intro, the 'your god of gods, the true god' is the player, and the 'we created (everything)' is the developers.
This is basically a test from devs to see how nuts with secrets can they go before it becomes incomprehensible. I think they'll add more of these in the future
so first, you want to get exactly 9 orbs, 5 max health pickups, 2 health regens, spend exactly 12300 gold, and summon 17 boulders into this chalice nearly 5 minutes into the earth which you have to dig into, and then you take the orb the chalice gives you and go to the pyramid, fill the top with toxic sludge, where you will now unlock a literal middle finger that instantly kills anything around you. if you take the middle finger to the bottom of the 3rd eastern parallel lake, you will get the burger and now you can regen health free. next, you want to turn 5 scrolls into gold, trigger 3 worm rains, and grab 10 orbs of corrupted knowledge.If you take this to the moon, you will get the super nuke spell that literally just deletes anything loaded in. if you drop a super nuke onto the giant tree, you will unlock a secret message and you will become invincible and have unlimited mana.
@@sososoweeder i sleep
@@sososoweeder ..wait..that..is that..
IS That real?..
@@MineSlimeTV no.
@@MineSlimeTV Not yet. Just wait a few patches
Wow this game is so deep and I keep dying in the hisii base >:(
Literally and figuratively!
@@camillecirrus3977 Hey, after I wrote that comment I managed to get my first win, the game is fair but you need to be extremely aware of your surrondings, the most unfair things are that you get polymorphed or you get stunned into lava and that happens very frequently but it's an early access game, so I think that will be tweaked on the final release, also you can use mods to reduce the amounts of damage that you suffer from your mistakes to make it a bit more enjoyable
@@camillecirrus3977 Mate I think you should just take your time and it will be an easy win
@@camillecirrus3977 I'm sorry but I don't think I can help you with your childish attitude.
@@camillecirrus3977 just because you suck at the game doesnt mean everyone sucks
So, could it be that when we read "You have angered the Gods", that we have angered the Devs by not playing the game the intended way? By digging out of the Holy Mountain?
If that wasn't intended, they wouldn't give you something that allowed you to dig through it. Besides, you are ONLY angering the gods, not the god of gods or the creator of the god of gods.
@@JackalB4 true, like the gods that created the world by the lore made it so that you should go through the world the way they intended you to, angering them when you dont
Noita is a game that was made to be broken. But, there's no enjoyment to be had from breaking rules that don't exist.
So, the Devs created the Gods, who intend for you to beat the game a certain way. You move ever downward, from biome to Holy Mountain repeatedly, until you reach the end, beat the boss, and complete The Work.
But the Devs also created the God of Gods, who hide the tools to subvert their own creations behind a paper-thin curtain.
@@JackalB4 Just like real humans :)
We have the power to break our Gods' rules, commiting sins.
@@JackalB4 They intended you to NOT dig through, but they also gave you free will to do so if you want to. Though not without some reprecussions .
Perhaps the real treasure were the friends we made along the way.
Perhaps the real treasures are the people who don't quote that
@@Fuer64 I want to simp you, where do I send all my treasures.
Underrated comment
What if all the spelling and grammatical errors have a hidden message?
That definitely may be the case.
@@FuryForged "There goes the sanity!" -Desolator playing Noita
David M. Yes that’s what I was thinking.
I was waiting for a video like that, i started watching your channel from when i cleared the game like 2 or 3 times and wondered what is below the massive lava lake and what the glyph above the boss room means, i wondered if there is anything more to this game than just getting past the last boss and turning yourself into gold, and i really did not expect there to be this much else in this game, so in this matter, thank you so much for having the patience and dedication to dive so deep into all of the secrets.
I would think those glyphs are both a way of telling the ingame lore, as well as the developers letting us know they are keeping an eye on how the community is trying to solve the game's mysteries, and i wouldn't even see glyph number 9 as creepy, more so as comforting. I'm pretty sure the game developers have watched your videos to see how far the community has gotten into the game's secrets.
"We stole you time and your money and your sanity"
I got it. Valve wrote these messages
One possible interpretation is that the glyphs are a message from the developers partly addressed to the character the player controls, and that the "one true god" is the human behind the screen. I think the implication is that the player character is a separate entity from us, perhaps with their own thoughts, and we, the players, are intruders. It honestly explains a significant part of the glyphs.
We know that there are three primary forces in the world that hatched from three eggs: Magic, nature, and technology. I believe that we, the player, don't just wield magic: we *are* magic.
It's mentioned that magic gave some sort of meaning to nature/the world, but it is also in conflict with it. This makes perfect sense with this theory imo. The creatures of Noita try to drive us out, but without us, they wouldn't really have any meaning or purpose to their existence.
Ok first of all: thank You for making these videos Fury! You became one of my favorite UA-camrs/content creators over the course of Your Noita videos, much appreciated the effort!
I bought this game because I liked how it looked from the 1 trailer I saw back then. Then stayed for the gameplay and the ambience of it (the music, the sound effects, the overall art direction - it's just all incredible). Then I read about the secrets and started to explore the world, I was mind-blown. And to think that the devs are still in the making process... I can't even imagine what they could put in this game later on.
Based on the intro of the game and the couple of lore translations I already knew of I had the same idea as the conclusion to this video, and I have to say that this is fucking brilliant. A lore that is mystical enough to keep me interested, but at the same time keep getting reminded that it's a game made by other people. These guys at Nolla Games are incredibly talented.
FANTASTIC video ma dude. I kept reveting to reading it as the Dev's voice, its super hard not to as the Bird/tech/magic stuff is not something I think to heavy on. What I will say, following the classic in game lore hunt, you have no free will, you are on a set path, you are pre-determined to the will of the game and all the lore placements. I feel, reading all that in the dev's voice, or the 'GOD' of the game, and to extend on the subject matter of the glyphs, I truely feel like I broke what the were talking about when it comes to the glyphs suggestions.
Not to be up my own ass, but I went outside of their path with making 'Flash', making a new, unforseeable by the 'Gods' path by creating the adventure with Flash and making a 'new' story. Going outside of their 'In-game' story, by creating a new 'life', a new character that didn't exist in the sense he did not have that personaility or story. Horror may have existed,,, but he was nothing but a creation of the game in my own version of Noita untill I gave him his name and suddely became something the 'Gods' did not anticipate, and could not have anticipated the full extent of.
I have a VERY strong suspicion that "Flash" is going to be part of something larger soon.
@@FuryForged Evidence based suspision? Or just intuition?
Let's Suffer Together where is my ss 100 vid :((
That in and of itself was expected by the developers.
I'm astonished. This game doesn't stop surprising me. Thanks to you of course, because I would never manage to find this.
Finding all this stuff... It's mind blowing.
And unrelated: love the way you speak. Even for someone whom English isn't his native language, it's so easy to understand everything you say. Keep the good work man, I'll surely keep following you!
It's the dev's
"We took your time, money, and sanity"
This is what I learned from this: This isn't a waste of time; because it gives fury content and views
I would like to throw my “theory hat” out into the ring. These Glyphs talk about how they also made “other worlds”. I think this is talking about the either the seed number you get in every play through, OR it’s talking about the “alternate dimensions” aka the worlds beyond the walls that you can burrow through to get more orbs, gold, etc and such.
If the distinction actually matters, that would imply that there is a another tier of power.
Quinton Craig what do you mean by “another tier of power”?
@@BrigsbyDowers If the writer only created the parallel worlds, but not the seeds, then that implies that there's a higher tier, if they created the seeds, but not the other worlds, that implies that there's a slightly lower power to them.
Quinton Craig aaahh, so your saying that there could be someone higher up the ladder than the writer.
@@BrigsbyDowers Of course, it's also possible that the writer created both, or neither, thus bringing in even more "what if"s.
I think it's fascinating to consider these from the standpoint of the devs actually inserting them into the game. Just physically opening a level editor (or similar), scrolling over to a swathe of featureless, near-indestructible rock, at the bottom of the map, under a sea of lava, with no hints or landmarks in sight, and actually _placing_ there, in that pinnacle of buttfuck-nowhere, an easter egg you know full-well that someone is going to have to find. They don't _have to_ find it, of course, but they will anyway, and with such certainty that you might as well be forcing someone to do it. They must be aware of how cruel that is. Knowingly wasting that amount of the collective lifespan of humanity might be genuinely unsettling, and it feels like some of that dissonance is being channeled into the tone of the messages. "What are we doing?" "What are _you_ doing?" They almost feel like an error message you'd leave in inaccessible computer code, or something you 'd write in a diary you're sure no one will ever read. Because in this case its hard to believe that anyone ever would.
I think you pretty much hit the nail right on the head. Nice vid, man
I'm impressed by how high quality your videos are, I think you're doing wonderful work involving noita. I never would have thought the game had this many secrets
Amaizing work, Fury, I was waiting for this video and you made it, as you have said.
How TF do you even find this stuff
you comb the desert with a tiny comb and eat an ice berg with a toothpick
@@matthewvonreighner5762 it's not only him, there's a whole community that finds all these stuff
people look into the code of the game most the time i imagine
You weaponize autism and OCD to result in someone who diligently erases every last pixel of map because they must.
Never underestimate passionate community and to be the first to uncover a secret.
Ugh thank you so much for this, I was trying to decipher and find the meaning of these runes I stumbled across but didn't want to take the time and effort you did.
I am hyped every time I see a new Noita video of your. I really enjoy it. Thank you for this hard work.
Next time doing a video like this, can you please use a mod that shows x and y position on the screen?
Thank you. And that's a great idea - sorry, I wasn't aware of a mod that showed the x and y coordinates. I'll grab one.
I have an idea for a 'hidden quest' in this game, since you already have a fish and sun quests. What I found facinating in Noita is how the pixels interract, creating steam with water and fire, to have it pile up on the ceiling and rain down again, making effectively a mini moist biome. Why not have a quest where you destroy reality and with alchemy and magic, create a new world from scratch. effectively outplaying the gods, removing them from the equation by ending their reality and starting a new one. Perhaps creating a sphere or dirt, metal and magma and create earth on a smaller scale and at the end of the ritual, you start a new game without dying
This is very interesting. Also, I think the "We stole your time, your money, and your sanity." Is just the devs saying "haha you spent your money to buy this game, and now everything is cryptic and you have to decipher it all" XD
I like that the first one you're kind of like "maybe this is the in game gods letting us know our actions have consequences" right like there's a lot of lore that interacts with and then you get to the second one and realize the creators are just having A Normal One about the amount of control they have over their players
There is probably some sort of ending associated with these secrets that hasn't been fully implemented yet, considering how bizarrely unceremonious the current official endings for the game are. Either that, or they're going for some sort of "meta-ending" where the developers effectively deliver a spiritual sequel to Zeitgeist: The Movie in video game form.
The whole game evokes a sense of loneliness and emptiness (or... choice and freedom?). It's all very unceremonial, like the lack of tutorial and music when you start a new game.
I would guess the style of endings are part of this coherent aesthetic.
I have watched a few of your videos of noita, now I can't sleep until 23 because of watching that full list of noita recommendations. the more I watch the more it shows up, I'm just digging myself into it deeper... deeper.... and deeper...
You can tell the Hempulli Oy guys thought this stuff up. This reminds me so so much of all the Environmental Station Alpha hidden stuff all over every corner of the map. Also, ESA 2 when!?!?!?!
What if the ‘Creator of All’ built the end of the game, the little gear center piece, knowing our little Noitian wizard would come and destroy everything? Seeing as how the CoA hates us, life, technology, and magic, it sorta makes sense that they would make an ultimate doomsday solution.
Maybe "one true god" that devs are talking about is the game engine they created? It controls every pixel and enemy in the game, makes it burn you, shoot you, fall into lava it generated, so it could be without a doubt called a monster. They may be also a bit disappointed in it, because it still contains bugs and inconsistencies, making it imperfect creation. Just my idea about what might be going on.
I think your videos are underrated
Thats my take
Great video FF. How the dev's are breaking the fourth wall and hiding all this is amazing.The lore of this game just keeps on giving. I'm also curious if all the 12 texts hide a greater hidden meaning. There were some odd spelling and grammatical errors that might be intended. Maybe overlapping the star sign pictures of the gods on the texts will reveal something? Keep up the amazing work FF
fun fact: apparently behind the gold Noita statue you can find glyphs saying something like "WHAT YOU DESERVE", foreshadowing how the normal ending goes.
I haven't seen it myself but that's what I've heard.
Love all your vids dude
This entire secret just feels like one of the devs was pissed off at the code, decided to make a little secret to vent, and ended up creating a new religion.
Sorry for bad english.
I want to say, I'm amazed.
For the first of all, You are my hero. I can't imagine, how many time You spent for searching the answers. For the second, the developers surprised me many times. This game is so huge and simple at the same time. I know, than You work with community. But still, thanks to You, we have got this great materials. So thank You, FuryForged. Very good content and I love the way You laughting :D.
A day with a new FuryForged video is a good day
I literally bought this game because of you, I am usually not into these types of games. But your well reasoned videos on this game made me want to get into it.
I randomly found number 8. Thank you for completing the saga.
I'm really glad that the modders didn't release all the secrets, when we finally cracked the game. But there was motivation to not leak stuff, because of the offer in secrets_secrets_secrets.png :D
The e-mail address mentioned in it also contained the word "knower" and some of those first modders are now "immortalized" in the game's credits. Really awesome
Beautiful, thank you so much for this video.
Truly impressed by the effort you put into uncovering secrets in this game. Also what "treasure" are they talking about? A mega uber secret orb of knowledge??
I am so glad there are people with so much free time on their hands that they can figure out these absurdly hidden and convoluted secrets so I don't have to.
I do kind of wonder though if this is all of them, or if there are more yet to be discovered.
My god. How much effort, time and passion were put in this by Noita community. Meanwhile my best success in 62 hours is Jungle. You rock, all of you. And Nolla games, of course.
i think the hidden glyphs are cool but really out of the way. Hiding secrets this deep means the only ppl who will ever know about this are ppl who data mine. Its great to have crazy secrets like this but dang. Unless a youtuber makes a video on this stuff i think about 30 or so ppl are the only ones who would know about this stuff in a normal setting.
that's it, think about the 30 who found a hyper secret secret just for them...
Knowing the ridiculous extent gamers will go (i.e. speedrunner community as a whole for any game) I think just devotion and loooots of free time is good enough. You don't need to go data mining to find extremely hidden secrets, as long as they are something you CAN find.
I have found a few of these accedentilly just by randomly going through dense rock to get to get to places easier / faster
I feel like this is just the notes devs. “We stole your time, and your money, and your sanity.” Nice Easter egg.
Thanks a lot, nice work!
This reminds me of Duke Nukem 3D's custom map I played. If you used no clip and went out of bounds, there was a message that said :"You're not supposed to be here." And on the other side of the same map Out of bounds message said: "You're not supposed to be here either"
We’ve taken your money, your time, your sanity. Stretch but what if this is a 4th wall break, the nolla could be talking about how you bought their game, and went thru the hell of finding all these lil messages? I think this one was the most apparent but I think if you read all of these like the devs are talking to you, it just, sounds so right.
I really do hope that there's an update / dlc that expands on this lore. Noita really likes to play on the theme of being a game that gives little story, but has lots of mysteries / lore to discover. Sort of like Shadow Of the Colossus.
Great as always. Thx
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Hell yeah, gonna pump out some electronic dance rock!
Oh my god I so freaking love this game... How they just let you know how to move and every other thing is just up to you. I love being an awesome wizard with jetpack, getting for three hours to the boss and than trying for another 4 hours to overcome lava and getting in hell.. Just to accidentaly throw your poly flask right on yourself and getting instantly killed for first shot and have to start again... I just hate it and love it.
I think they actually a reference to all the youtubers that spend they time to show others those secrets, and bring even more people into Noita
I thought of the time loop too, the Noita seems imprisoned in a land surrounded by endlessly repeating small worlds. Maybe any alchemist/witch/Shaman end up here eventually in their quest for true knowledge, as the tablets perhaps hint about previous seachers of truth ending down here, attempting to complete the work.
I initially had the theory that the Noita was a cultist. An apocalyptic alchemical cultist. The humanoids in the game seem to recognise and hate you, maybe they know your robes and they have this big base full of weapons set up down there... Why? To stop you? I don't think the humanoids just unthinkingly attack like the monsters. I thought, from the other gold Noita at the end that you were one of many trying to turn everything into pure, holy gold (before the other endings had been revealed).
Then I thought it might be a bit more abstract than that, the Noita is a concept given form (through magic), the idea that everything must come to an end. Looping over and over until you reach a success state. Or maybe a toy of the gods, maybe they're bored of this world. You seem to have their favour, the temples are designed not praise them but to aid you. They're fickle though, they surely understand a worm eating its way in is not your fault, but they don't care, like its a game to them with rules, so it doesn't matter you had no part in it.
I don't fully understand how the gods and their temples play into this (the temples belong to multiple gods, who are they? All of them or only a couple?). What they all want, who they all are or who you are to them, this is further complicated by all this talk of true gods and gods of gods. We only have some info on who they might be and what they might want. I feel like this might be one of the more crucial pieces of the puzzle.
I also feel like your theory that the Noita is linked somehow to the god of magic is close, closer than my theories. The character is noticeably more skilled with magic than others, having been granted the ability to modify wands. But the question of who the other god is who owns the temples we use is still out there. Has another god allied with magic?
if you combine digging bolt, luminous drill with timer, and chainsaw, you create an omega digging wand that eats through EDR like its made of mud.
On one hand I feel bad about spoiling myself to secrets, but on the other I literally would never find any of this in a million years. I fancied there might be a secret inside of the surface mountain, but I didn't think to destroy the entire mountain! I walked away disappointed, while these nearly invisible runes I was just inches away from were laughing. Fool I was, I also didn't know there was an entire new zone up waiting for me to gain the ability to fly. I didn't know true flight was ever achievable. I normally love searching for secrets, but the ones in this game thoroughly bamboozled me. Can I truly be blamed for spoiling myself in defeat? Am I expected to destroy every pixel of rock in this world, so that I can see what secrets lie behind and beneath? Nah. I'm more than happy with the stuff that I found on my own(not even vaguely scratching the surface of this game's secrets). Sometimes spoilers can be part of the experience.
I think these where to be uncovered from the mountain alter ending
as you pick up the entire world and put it in your pockets
these messages are for people who try to collect the entire world
I kind of wonder what happens if you do collect all the world after it's turned to gold
You cant, its infinite.
this company has passion. i like it!
Well geez... And I thought I was being a sleuth when I found a few orbs and that first bit of text....
Ha me too
this is really cool
Oh, the false gods (that you anger by breaking rules etc) are definitely the devs, the players are the true God. The devs made the character, and because they made the world, they turned us into the god that governs this character. So the character doesn't have true free will, like they said. But it's also a message to us, the player. It's like the higher presence they feel in Chrono Trigger that is guiding them, or the player's role in Sword & Sworcery.
When, one day, archaeologists find similar carvings in a cleared out river of lava, we'll know then that every pixel in our world was ALSO simulated.
I really really hope the devs are paying attention and getting ideas for future updates -- and potential DLC once the game is out of EA.
The real treasure is your patience to do all this
The meta narrative is the devs talking to the player, that's pretty obvious.
But the 'in-game' one seems to be talking about how the 'false' gods created the 'god of gods'.But if you take the intro into account, then it becomes a familiar story, who was first? the chicken or the egg? did the 'god of gods' come first or did 'false' gods create it in the first place. It fits with the cyclical nature of noita, repeating itself, infinite worlds up and down, left and right, infinite retries every new game with slight alterations (the meta being that that's how roguelikes work). Of course what falls outside that cycle of chicken & egg, of death & reincarnation is 'true knowledge', the only thing that truly persists though playthroughs (or cycles) is the player's own knowledge.
Furthermore, while the authors of the glyphs insist that they 'created' everything and gave you free will. The truth is, the desperate repetitions of this betray the fact that they need you more than they want you to know. Without a 'champion', an observer to witness the work, to 'activate' it, to _refine_ it, then it might as well not be. After all, the noita is one of those unchanging constants of the world as well, the catalyst to the events that follow. The meta here seems to be that the devs need the players equally or maybe more than the players need the devs (or the devs work).
Does it make any interesting drawing if you map the trajectory along this series of texts ?
Something that you missed, there is music writing on the walls of the cave from the mines to the ice place, i haven't had the time to go check it out yet though.
Those are completely different from these lore glyphs. I actually covered those in another video focused on the music notes/wand in the game. If you watch that video, I actually linked *another* video to it with a card that pops up in the upper-right during the video, showing you ALL of the known songs that have effects so far in the game.
FuryForged well I know now what I’ll be doing for the next few quarantine hours
Is that bird+egg constellation animation in the game? Its really cool but I dont recall ever seeing it in the game or trailers, is it fan work?
So cool my dude
I commented this on Noitavania+3 The Sorceress of the Pyramid but I'd figure I'd add it here too, sorry for spamming.
so I am curious, I've just recently gotten into watching your noita videos; I've notice while watching your videos the pyramid has a indent on the top, and this game has a very heavy influence from real world medieval alchemy and it is believed that alchemy originated in Egypt, also the pyramids in Egypt were originally capped with a gold capstone, so I am curious what would happen if you filled that basin with gold some how, or would something happen if a Midas potion is emptied or created in it?
P.S. Like I said I've only just started to get into noita and watching your videos if this has already been tested or discovered sorry. I just got curious cause I can't find anything about it.
EDIT: so I was thinking how you would go about it and originally thought chaotic transmutation but it doesn't have gold in its chance table, so I was thinking maybe finding potions bottles that have gold powder in them because those do occasionally spawn, but I also had another idea, the gold room in the west wall, somehow create a slide to the pyramid and dig up into the gold room at an angle to drain the gold into the top of the pyramid.
How do you find out all of this things?
I was awarded some of those little Finnish licorice fishies that look like rocks and taste like Nordic Awesomeness. My time was not wasted. I think I'll have another lakritsi kala now. Skoal.
I think that the one true god is not in the game but more a amalgamation of the Noita community and it’s developers. It talks about how it made everything like game devs do, but also being unhappy with it. This could either be the game is in early access and they want to change it, or it could represent the players, modding and changing the game to what they might want. It also mentions the one true god taking the characters free will. Which in this case would be us, controlling the character and making them go to these obscure areas to read these essentially 4th wall breaking glyphs. I could of course, be very wrong. But it’s all just a theory.
A GAME THEORY!!!
Ha, I beat you too it.
wow! jesus! man, u are the MASTER of this game! thats what i think.
the glyphs could be from a version of u who ascended wile passing through the dimensions defeating the bosses and ending his or her dimension
im so stoked for 1.0 my dudes.. its almost out of early access..
First message, my first thought was developers. Makes even more sense with god of gods and so on.
wow this is so cool!
4:25 this looks like one of those "deep-fried" memes, lol
Is it possible for any content to be in the *no go rock zone* or the passage between dimensions?
Right now there's nothing there, but there probably will be at some point.
can you make a video about stacking perks?
I just got two greed perks and i took 40 gold per nugget.
I want to know if it is possible to stack another perks
Any time i think a strange thing around this game at the end i find new strange things to think.
I love how it’s literally just the game developers talking directly to the players saying “what the fuck is wrong with you? Why did you spend so much time playing our ridiculous game? We’re just stealing your time, money and sanity!”
I wonder if some of these glyphs are written from a different point of view - written by a scrabbling part of Nature trying to force a way out while the True God of Gods looks on with pity. #7 and #10 almost feel like they're written by the world.
#2 makes a lot of sense if the writer is the devs - they are the true God of Gods, but the false God of Gods is the game, and the player and the devs both serve that, expanding it. "Destroying it" could refer to, say, leaking spoilers so people won't be interested to find them themselves - but if so, the devs make clear that doing so is 'helping us.'
My take on "Knower to Be," a weird set of words, is "Know-er to become in the future" - one who will know. Maybe then when Noita leaves Early Access a whole host more glyphs, lore, tablets, and even crazy stuff like the arrangement of the stars will appear, for people to find!
4:30
I feel like the "Real Secret" refers to the eye glyphs.
4:34
I imagine it's supposed to be "even we don't know how"
The best rewards would be purpose, challenge and ominous power so that the path serves as reward
based on the grammer of the messages, I am 100% sure that there is another message encoded within that stilted phrasing.
Eh, I think its meant to sound out of placr and unsettling.
For example knower-to-be means 'one who will know'. Its equivalent to seeker of true knowledge.
The fact that there are 12 inscriptions makes me think there's a connection between them and the Orbs of Knowledge.
There might be another inscription we don't know about, or the secret inscription in the orb room counts as the 13th, corresponding with the 13 orbs.