I met Victor in the line at the ice cream stand at an outdoor WR concert. We talked about how much fun playing bass is. I thought he was just another enthusiastic amateur like me, until we go near the front of the line and he said "shit, I'm on!" and ran toward the stage.
Beautiful memory Helped him on stage when he played at Iridium NYC he was playing with Billy Cobham Tom Coster Frank Gambale His health deteriorated at that point & I met him when he was with WR playing at The Intrepid outdoor concerts they used to have back in the 80’s Nice guy real humble
I got to meet Victor at a bass event in Montana and he was the kindest, most genial guy. He graciously let me be a fan boy for about ten minutes and when he went up for his performance, he played "For Wendell and Benda" because I'd requested it. It was the first time he'd performed it in more than ten years. I cried through that set. Dude was incredibly cool.
I met Jaco in 81 very nice guy spent 8hrs with him and his wife when Weather report came to my town just me and him.being a bass player myself I couldn’t stop shaking..,no cellphones back then I’m like who’s gonna ever believe me 🙏🏾
Victor was a BASS PHENOM, had the audacity, talent, and skill to assume the bass chair that Jaco had, AND CARVED HIS OWN PATH!!!!! Alphonso is a MASTER BASSIST and doesn't get enough mention and credit! R.I.P., Mr. Bailey!!!
Victor Bailey, an amazing voice on the Bass and a nice guy. Glad I got to meet and share recording an album together. He found his own voice. Gone too soon. RIP
@@agyemanboaten4385 I’ve been following this comparison between Stanley and Jaco since Jaco came to national prominence with his prolific debut self titled album in 1976. Stanley Clarke before and prior to Jaco was the standard bearer, but the press and many players seemed to jumped Jaco ahead of Stanley as the innovator of solo electric bass and technique supremacy. Nothing could be further from the truth. It took Victory Bailey to final set the record straight of who did what during bass history. Players talk like nothing revolutionary took place before Jaco, as Stanley was leading the bass world as the first electric bass soloist and liberator of the instrument .
@@ShangoDC Too right! I love them both. For some reason everyone thinks Stanley started when he did School Days. I mean if you were pedantic, you could argue that Stanley did and still does it just as well on the upright. But man they are both awesome. I refuse to pick one and will just enjoy.
@@agyemanboaten4385 I totally agree with your statement. That’s why I made the comment about Victory Bailey finally setting the record straight. Even these lost tapes on the Jaco documentary didn’t show this Victory discussion or the Marcus Miller discussion, because they both spoke about Stanley.
YES. Thank you for mentioning Rocco. Definitely on my Mt Rushmore of bassists. The only influence of mine Victor didn't mention here was my main influence, Paul Jackson. It was those Headhunter albums that made me take the final decision to leap into bass.
I new Victor and the funny thing is that he knew who I was to my surprise. I met him long ago when he joined WR. I really got to know him in Brazil with his band we both were playing in the same jazz festival and that was the first time he heard me play and we talked a lot and I told him I use to play with his uncle Donald Bailey in the Bay Area. Then I ran into him in NY at the Zinc Bar and we talked a lot and we both went to Berklee. Victor was a great player and human he was one of my bass hero's and friend I sure do miss him gone to soon. RIP
That last part is sooo true. Too many want to be the bass hero, forgetting that they should, first and foremost, be part of the *rhythm section*, the foundation of the band, before putting themselves front and centre.
i met Victor outside of Blues Alley in DC after a Weather Update concert....i wish that part of this segment would have made it into the film and not that bullshit that did....... really cool guy R.I.P.
RIP Victor, Philly's own, knew you and your dad Morris. Remember Stanley, Alphonso and Jaco , and Victor come from the Philadelphia area. BUT, Victor forgot about Larry Graham who revolutionized thump bass making the way for Louis Johnson, Byron Miller, Nathaniel Philips and Marcus Miller.
He is inaccurate. Alphonso Johnson started playing fretless waaay after Jaco. And famous Stanley Clarke album School Day was published around the same time or after Jaco's first album and definitely after, about a year after, Pat Metheny's debut album Bright Size Life that already featured Jaco's solos, and melodic bass lines. Really doubtful, that Jaco took anything from him. And Jaco wasn't that much influenced by other bassist as he was by other non bass playing musicians.
They do their best, don't they?! All those mentioned are indeed exceptional, innovative, important players. But what Jaco had was just so very deep and special.
Victor. is accurate. Alphonso was playing fretless bass with George Duke/ Billy Cobham before Jaco had his own album and appeared on Bright Sized Life. He also played fretless in Weather Report before Jaco. Jaco’s approach and tone completely revolutionized bass playing, but Alphonso had established his own style on fretted and fretless bass before Jaco became the legend he’s known as today!!😃🎸🎶💯
@@waltercosby9062 If I'm not mistaken Jaco was playing the fretless when he was just a kid in Florida playing in local clubs, way before he became famous. He actually took needle nose pliers and pulled the frets out of his bass and started experimenting. And this was way before the electric bass's even came fretless from the manufacture like that. Where do think he got his (original) chops from? Practice, practice, practice.
Well, Sly Stone-yes THAT Sly Stone, played fretless bass on one of his hit songs that came out in 1973, so fretless bass was not invented by Jaco, and had been used long before Jaco became known. Jaco was definitely the innovative voice on fretless bass, but he was not the first. Victor Bailey was speaking from experience of knowing Jaco personally and knowing the history of bass, so I know everything he says here is correct, not based on any assumptions 😃🎸🎵
@@waltercosby9062 'As he developed as a player, Jaco had experimented with creating fretless basses. In the early 1970s, he acquired a 1962 Fender Jazz bass, which either Jaco acquired already fretless or from which he removed the frets with a butter knife (his recollections varied over the years). Jaco filled in the areas where the frets had been with plastic wood and coated the former fretboard with epoxy. This bass, which was the primary fretless instrument he recorded with, and Jaco nicknamed it the Bass of Doom.' From: The Life of Jaco. As I said, he did this when he was a very young man - way before 1973
I don't think Victor is aware that Jaco was doing his thing years before he joined Weather Report. He was doing the 16th note grooves on the circuit with Wayne Cochran and the C.C. Riders well before Tower of Power released their first record. And I doubt Alphonso Johnson was a major influence on him, either.
He said they had a ton of musical instruments around the house. So he definitely had played a guitar before and understood the concept of intervals the four low strings on it are tuned in. A super-talented guy like him would have easily figured out how to play a relatively simple bass line to a pop song in no time at all. If you play guitar, the first steps on a fretted bass are easy. It gets exponentially harder after that. It's not like a cello or violin, the first steps/basics on those are hard and incredibly frustrating, then it gets a bit easier. You sound like complete ass for quite a while before you get the intonation and bow work down. But the cats in your neighbourhood will be very interested in you. "Cats" as in "felines", not as in "jazz musicians".
So since he played with weather report, that means there might be a black president one day ? never know, there is an election coming soon, might get a black president one day.
I met Victor in the line at the ice cream stand at an outdoor WR concert. We talked about how much fun playing bass is. I thought he was just another enthusiastic amateur like me, until we go near the front of the line and he said "shit, I'm on!" and ran toward the stage.
Beautiful memory Helped him on stage when he played at Iridium NYC he was playing with Billy Cobham Tom Coster Frank Gambale His health deteriorated at that point & I met him when he was with WR playing at The Intrepid outdoor concerts they used to have back in the 80’s Nice guy real humble
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..miss you man, Victor Bailey RIP..Berklee!
I got to meet Victor at a bass event in Montana and he was the kindest, most genial guy. He graciously let me be a fan boy for about ten minutes and when he went up for his performance, he played "For Wendell and Benda" because I'd requested it. It was the first time he'd performed it in more than ten years. I cried through that set. Dude was incredibly cool.
I met Jaco in 81 very nice guy spent 8hrs with him and his wife when Weather report came to my town just me and him.being a bass player myself I couldn’t stop shaking..,no cellphones back then I’m like who’s gonna ever believe me 🙏🏾
Victor was a BASS PHENOM, had the audacity, talent, and skill to assume the bass chair that Jaco had, AND CARVED HIS OWN PATH!!!!! Alphonso is a MASTER BASSIST and doesn't get enough mention and credit! R.I.P., Mr. Bailey!!!
Victor Bailey, an amazing voice on the Bass and a nice guy. Glad I got to meet and share recording an album together. He found his own voice. Gone too soon. RIP
Victor Bailey was one of the great Weather Report Bassist, like Jaco, Alphonso Johnson,
and Miroslav Vitous. R.I.P. Victor Bailey and Jaco.
GREATLY MISSED man, RIP Mr. Bailey.
This was great. So well expressed and intelligent
Victor's bass line on This is This (the song itself) is my favorite funk bass line.
Much Respect, he had one of the toughest jobs ever, replacing Jaco. He was A GREAT player, who did a GREAT job replacing Jaco, RIP.
Great interview! Everything he's saying about the other players makes sense.
Time and feel and groove at all times..beautiful concept..that was Jaco.. easier said then done and what alot a bassists can’t or don’t do..
Finally someone of this stature in the bass world puts the greatest Stanley Clarke in proper historic perspective.
Why finally? He inspired many of the greatest and is held in the highest regards by his peers.
@@agyemanboaten4385 I’ve been following this comparison between Stanley and Jaco since Jaco came to national prominence with his prolific debut self titled album in 1976. Stanley Clarke before and prior to Jaco was the standard bearer, but the press and many players seemed to jumped Jaco ahead of Stanley as the innovator of solo electric bass and technique supremacy. Nothing could be further from the truth. It took Victory Bailey to final set the record straight of who did what during bass history. Players talk like nothing revolutionary took place before Jaco, as Stanley was leading the bass world as the first electric bass soloist and liberator of the instrument .
@@ShangoDC Too right! I love them both. For some reason everyone thinks Stanley started when he did School Days. I mean if you were pedantic, you could argue that Stanley did and still does it just as well on the upright. But man they are both awesome. I refuse to pick one and will just enjoy.
@@agyemanboaten4385 I totally agree with your statement. That’s why I made the comment about Victory Bailey finally setting the record straight. Even these lost tapes on the Jaco documentary didn’t show this Victory discussion or the Marcus Miller discussion, because they both spoke about Stanley.
Victor Bailey was a Excellent bassist.
RIP.
YES. Thank you for mentioning Rocco. Definitely on my Mt Rushmore of bassists.
The only influence of mine Victor didn't mention here was my main influence, Paul Jackson. It was those Headhunter albums that made me take the final decision to leap into bass.
I agree, Paul Jackson is a very underated bass player, absolutely love is playing!
Rest In Eternal Power Itinually VB 👊🏿🖤
Legends!
This channel is gold - thank you
Thanks for watching!
This man was phenomenal...Just gone far too soon...GOD BLESS HIS SOUL..
So right on Victor! You are missed
I new Victor and the funny thing is that he knew who I was to my surprise. I met him long ago when he joined WR. I really got to know him in Brazil with his band we both were playing in the same jazz festival and that was the first time he heard me play and we talked a lot and I told him I use to play with his uncle Donald Bailey in the Bay Area. Then I ran into him in NY at the Zinc Bar and we talked a lot and we both went to Berklee. Victor was a great player and human he was one of my bass hero's and friend I sure do miss him gone to soon. RIP
That last part is sooo true. Too many want to be the bass hero, forgetting that they should, first and foremost, be part of the *rhythm section*, the foundation of the band, before putting themselves front and centre.
VB such a talent. Gone way too soon.
Damn..Solid Real Talk
i met Victor outside of Blues Alley in DC after a Weather Update concert....i wish that part of this segment would have made it into the film and not that bullshit that did....... really cool guy R.I.P.
RIP Victor, Philly's own, knew you and your dad Morris. Remember Stanley, Alphonso and Jaco , and Victor come from the Philadelphia area. BUT, Victor forgot about Larry Graham who revolutionized thump bass making the way for Louis Johnson, Byron Miller, Nathaniel Philips and Marcus Miller.
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5:57 A LITTLE LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK! #youtube
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what's the song of the intro??
Port of Entry live version off of the album Night Passage!
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Two wonderful players lost to ALS. RIP VB and Mike P.
4:38 JACK BRUCE!!!
Ralphe Armstrong
Facilitate maybe?
Victor is speaking too much truth here.
I hear absolutely no jealousy.
He is inaccurate. Alphonso Johnson started playing fretless waaay after Jaco. And famous Stanley Clarke album School Day was published around the same time or after Jaco's first album and definitely after, about a year after, Pat Metheny's debut album Bright Size Life that already featured Jaco's solos, and melodic bass lines. Really doubtful, that Jaco took anything from him. And Jaco wasn't that much influenced by other bassist as he was by other non bass playing musicians.
They do their best, don't they?! All those mentioned are indeed exceptional, innovative, important players. But what Jaco had was just so very deep and special.
Victor. is accurate. Alphonso was playing fretless bass with George Duke/ Billy Cobham before Jaco had his own album and appeared on Bright Sized Life. He also played fretless in Weather Report before Jaco. Jaco’s approach and tone completely revolutionized bass playing, but Alphonso had established his own style on fretted and fretless bass before Jaco became the legend he’s known as today!!😃🎸🎶💯
@@waltercosby9062 If I'm not mistaken Jaco was playing the fretless when he was just a kid in Florida playing in local clubs, way before he became famous. He actually took needle nose pliers and pulled the frets out of his bass and started experimenting. And this was way before the electric bass's even came fretless from the manufacture like that. Where do think he got his (original) chops from? Practice, practice, practice.
Well, Sly Stone-yes THAT Sly Stone, played fretless bass on one of his hit songs that came out in 1973, so fretless bass was not invented by Jaco, and had been used long before Jaco became known. Jaco was definitely the innovative voice on fretless bass, but he was not the first. Victor Bailey was speaking from experience of knowing Jaco personally and knowing the history of bass, so I know everything he says here is correct, not based on any assumptions 😃🎸🎵
@@waltercosby9062 'As he developed as a player, Jaco had experimented with creating fretless basses. In the early 1970s, he acquired a 1962 Fender Jazz bass, which either Jaco acquired already fretless or from which he removed the frets with a butter knife (his recollections varied over the years). Jaco filled in the areas where the frets had been with plastic wood and coated the former fretboard with epoxy. This bass, which was the primary fretless instrument he recorded with, and Jaco nicknamed it the Bass of Doom.' From: The Life of Jaco. As I said, he did this when he was a very young man - way before 1973
I don't think Victor is aware that Jaco was doing his thing years before he joined Weather Report. He was doing the 16th note grooves on the circuit with Wayne Cochran and the C.C. Riders well before Tower of Power released their first record. And I doubt Alphonso Johnson was a major influence on him, either.
lmao, we still have not had a black president, apparently no one has seen Barack's mother lol.
He picked up a bass and could play the song while he never played a bass in his life . Yeah right 😂
Yeah, sounds farfetched but Victor was a monster.
Although not impossible, I thought the same exact thing!
There are people who can 😊
Actually, a lot of our favorite bass players took to the bass quickly because they started out playing the guitar first.
He said they had a ton of musical instruments around the house. So he definitely had played a guitar before and understood the concept of intervals the four low strings on it are tuned in. A super-talented guy like him would have easily figured out how to play a relatively simple bass line to a pop song in no time at all.
If you play guitar, the first steps on a fretted bass are easy. It gets exponentially harder after that. It's not like a cello or violin, the first steps/basics on those are hard and incredibly frustrating, then it gets a bit easier. You sound like complete ass for quite a while before you get the intonation and bow work down. But the cats in your neighbourhood will be very interested in you. "Cats" as in "felines", not as in "jazz musicians".
So since he played with weather report, that means there might be a black president one day ? never know, there is an election coming soon, might get a black president one day.
had one duh
VB was truly great!
ZAWINAL / SHORTER / BAILEY / HAKIM / ROSSI or CINELU....
my favourite line-ups of weather report....
JACO....brilliant, but sometimes too much....
Respeck. But there will be another black President soon!
hells yeah!
Donald Trump?
@@euugh8877 I think he means Ashy Larry
Facts, my dude!
@@euugh8877 that fool will take your freedoms one by one. and like any cult, you'll applaud.