I have worked on this project as a grader operator for the last 6 year, and its my last day tomorrow. It has been a epic project and I'm looking forward to not having to drive to the city for my next holiday. Which is on Sunday, straight to the Philipines and beyond.
@@JohnDoryPsh What you need to remember is that all the fill needs to compact to a firm base which can take a year or more. No use in doing it quickly and the foundations or runway ends up with cracking. Brisbane's second runway took 3 years to be ready for construction.
@@gusdrivinginaustralia6168 artillery ranges is a local one for me. Turns out some folk don't like being woken up at 2am by a gun line a few miles outside the village.
Western Sydney Airport is at least 90 minutes from the city; there is no direct fast train, this is no Narita. In a brainwave, the government decided trains will not run 24 hours, so you're stranded if you arrive after 10 PM. You must remember that Australia is a country where politicians cannot think past their next toilet break.
Its actually closer than the existing airport for many residents in the western suburbs and a new metro connects it to the existing rail system at St Marys. However many users will be based in the west so won’t need a fast connection to the CBD. People can book a ticket to the old airport nearer the CBD if this one doesn’t suit them. As demand grows the second runway will be built and the metro connection can be extended if required so it has been planned with future growth in mind.
I would compare it to Incheon. No one realises how far that actually is from Seoul. I have left Korea many years ago, so maybe it changed, but it was a regular bus you had to catch. The KTX was only between Busan and Seoul at the time and it went throw Daegoo. I lived in Shanghai too and Pudong Airport wasn’t convenient to the city either. That Maglev only took you halfway. But also Sydney has been developing hard at having other CBDs, and Parramatta as an example is unrecognisable. Right now it has the life of North Sydney, not really a CBD alternative yet, but it’s getting there. But it will help Liverpool grow and Penrith might be relevant.
The really incredible thing about this airport is that it is just a part of a much larger project - Bradfield City which incorporates the Aerotropolis, Metro and M12 motorway.
This was sorely needed! When flying back from london, Sydney airport was so busy that my flight was diverted to MELBOURNE to refuel. This is going to be an amazing new development
I've been hearing about that as a little girl living in Essendon. I move from Essendon more than 50 years ago! The skybus has a stranglehold on transport, but it's far inferior to a real train. If they just extended from Essendon station 50 years ago, it would have been far cheaper and easier than the modern suggestions.
blame the airport for not wanting to build it, rather keeping their precious little carparks. Moreso, blame whichever previous government sold off the airport and put it into private hands.
It's impressive Sydney managed to build a whole new airport, driverless metro system, westconnex and new stadiums in Moore Park and Parramatta in the last 10-15 years and Melbourne in all that time has been talking about the airport rail link and still haven't started construction on it
I worked for cox architects during the time that they were working on the initial design stages of western Sydney airport, such an amazing project that I was able to get acquainted with from its early days and now it’s nearly finished!
Without the 24 hour train it will be a bit of an Avalon style white elephant there for a while. I suspect good old Skybus has already got their tentacles into transporting passengers out of there.
I've gotten to tour the site early into construction and very recently too. It's an impressive operation that I think is necessary even excepting for all the recent population growth. Sydney Airport is just too congested and ill-equipped to handle all of the city's aviation traffic. There was a lot of pushback and I've heard whining about the flightpaths but with the exception of some specific areas that will be significantly impacted everyone else is getting a 10 sec a day annoyance.
Local residents only moved into the area after the announcement of the airport so they'd get appreciating real estate lol. The airport came first, not them.
Unfortunately that is not the case. People have lived in the same area of the airport and surrounding suburbs for longer than the announcement of the airport.
Comments section has lots of people complaining unnecessarily. 1. Population is being handled with new housing and mixed use developments. Sydney has one of the lowest densities in the world, it's absurd how many single family houses are near the biggest parts of the city so this is long overdue. 2. The metro will open in 2026 but unfortunately no solid connections yet. At least it'll be a huge boost to what will be Sydney's 3rd CBD. 3. This airport isn't meant to just direct to the CBD, this is a separate space entirely which will connected by a new line in 2032. There are problems but they are being fixed. Very fun and interesting video btw
Oslo did the something similar around 2000. Only we closed the original airport and moved all the traffic to the Newish Airport with two Runways. It was a small airport with only one Runway before that. Also we included a high speed rail service to the airport as well.
I live in Sydney. The renders in this video reminded me a bit of Gardermoen. My wife is from Tønsberg, so I always dislike getting there from Gardermoen in the middle of your summer holidays with «buss for tog».
I cam guarantee it is more functional than anything we'll build here...unless what we build here cosr 10x the price. Ridiculous trying to get anything logical done in my country but particularly Sydney - that city will never function properly
Though always well presented, that was a summary of three press releases and a wikipedia article. No wonder it takes you guys so long to build an airport in a sheep field.
It has been a long wait. The goverment back in the 1980s was talking about building this airport. They also talked about High Speed railway between Sydney and Melbourne and Brisbane which hasn't even started construction.
That's not surprising given the forethought that's gone into this. For example the airport is in Liverpool a city of 250,000 people. But there will be no rail link to Liverpool. The airport link will be to a suburb to the north of the airport with 13,000 population. In the hopes that people Penrith a city with 220,000 population will use it. Why either of these cities weren't directly connected will remain a mystery. But don't worry after they began construction they realised all their error so they are considering a possible rail expansion to connect to another suburb called Luddenham population 1500 located in between Liverpool and Campbelltown (population 186,000) 😂
My Dad worked on the business case for the Western Sydney Airport in 1975. Badgerys Creek (the location chosen) came out on top as the best place to build it. Cue the politicians spending the next 40+ years trying to find a "better" location for it and finally settling on Badgerys anyway...
This one is going to be a winner. The current Sydney airport is no fun on the best of days. Melbourne could really do with another big airport in the eastern area
A majority of arrivals to Sydney are from Domestic flights. If there was high speed rail up the east coast, it could easily cut down the number of flights needed into the airport.
The transport options seem pretty poor for a brand new major airport. The train from the airport to St Mary's (far from the centre of Sydney) will apparently take 15 mins, then it's another hour to the centre! Or about an hour to drive the whole way.
8:57 I hope there will be also a fast train service connecting the airport to downtown, otherweise it would be the very same mistake like at Munich Intl Airport in Germany: 2 commuter rail lines where it takes about an hour to get into the city, and no quicker train service serving only the airport. With the commuter rail lines it also gets a bit tight with both people to and from the airport mixing up with local commuters
@@mrdozey7361 that's sad; In case of Oslo Airport in Norway they're running high-speed trains on a 10 minute schedule, taking only 19 minutes to cover the distance In Munich it's half the distance but more than twice the travel time
Watching this all come together whilst flying over the development has been magical. A bit of a shame that it cuts into our Training Area Airspace, but the number of flying jobs the Airport creates is gonna be great for new pilots!
I lived in Sydney for a few years. A great city. I loved my time there, but the airport was woefully inadequte. The one really great thing about it, was it's proximity to Sydney City. But...the Western Airport couldn't happen soon enough. It will really breathe new life into especially the Western suburbs and it will really soften the traffic congestion that always happens around Sydney Airport. Sydney is a difficult city for infrastructure with all it's inlets and hilly terrain, but The West is more open and easy to develop. The ideal place for a new airport.
What I find strange is that the whole Leppington line isn't going to be extended to the new airport. It would seem logical as it would be way cheaper and would provide a link from the new airport to both the old airport and the city for passengers and freight.
The plan is to link the new airport to Glenfield (or maybe Leppington) probably with an extension of the WSI Airport Metro Line. Also to extend the Metro from Bankstown to Liverpool. It will depend on what option they take as to the missing link from Liverpool to Glenfield/Leppington. Possibly a new Metro line from the new airport to Parramatta. All that is well in the future though. And there was no way the previous government was going to extend any Sydney Trains lines to the new airport.
Melbourne experimented with the idea of a second airport by opening up AAV (Avalon) to passenger traffic and many a number passenger found out the hard way that the connection from AAV to the city was a lot more complicated than from Tullamarine, often offsetting any perceived savings from flying the cheaper routes to Avalon. Unfortunately Australia is well known for the lack of end to end public transports between the city and the airport; instead opting to populate unnecessary carparks and toll roads that are also owned by the conglomerate that own the airports, so I don’t imagine WSI will be a return destination for tourist or business travelers; leaving this a very expensive route for airlines to service.
Business as usual for the current Airport. Sydney population is approx 6 million people Over 2 million people live in the Western areas, which is closer to this airport location 24/7 operating No curfew A lot more cargo and freight City of Canberra has a population of near 500,000 people This new airport location definitely suits them. The new airport is well overdue ! It will be a huge driver of more economic activity etc. The existing airport will continue to operate at very busy levels of activity
Hey Fred, this post is timely as Australia is investign heavily into its airports with Perth Airport being tested for a $5bil development also ... Big money on infra....and happy to see it
Great stuff. Next do Melbourne Airport Rail Link.. Oh no, thats right. After 50 years, Melbourne still has not decided on where or how to build the rail link to the city.
The M12 motorway is being developed to provide direct road access between the airport and Sydney's motorway network, facilitating efficient ground transportation.
I flew into Sydney this year. It was a good airport as long as the new airport has room for expansion beyond just 2 runways and the big terminal it will do fine don’t make the same mistake as London Heathrow have at least enough space for four runways in the future. Like soul Inchon phases of expansion.
The urgent return policy for aircraft in distress is interesting. Normally they would fly over the ocean and dump fuel to make them light enough to stop before the end of the runway. For WSI, fuel dumping will be into Sydney's main water supply at the foot of the Blue Mountains.
Sydney Metro West is currently under construction between the Sydney CBD and Westmead. The approaches to the airport are designed to allow space for Metro West to be extended from Westmead to the Airport with new platforms next to the Airport Business Park Station and the Airport Station.
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I would love to visit Sydney someday, just sad how expensive flights are from North America and Europe, the places I live. 😢 But Australia and New Zealand are so beautiful. Great architecture, people, and wildlife.
Don't bother, there is really nothing here worth spending all that money on. You can see Kangaroos and Koalas in the Zoo which is most likely the only way you will see them if you come here.
@@smokingun397 what a stupid, unhelpful comment. OP - save up and come here someday - we live in a remarkable, diverse and beautiful country and you'll be welcome anytime!
As ever, an engaging informative video, thank you. Who knew that all those figures and details of the construction process would be quite so captivating‽ And you didn't let my favourite bit of your videos get lost in the jetwash. Yes the laugh a minute architect-speak self - agrandising fluff about the ceiling echoing the contours of the nearby Blue Mountains. Priceless! Just one thing though. I wonder if it has anything to do with it being such a long-planned project that the final version of the terminal's design is so out-dated? Perhaps there'll be a super modern people mover to get the passengers from entry to the distant gatei. Otherwise, nobody builds airports like this anymore. Long boxes have been superceded by spiders web spokes and satellite terminals to avoid the very problem present here. Nobody wants to have to drag their suitcase half a mile from check in to their departure gate anymore. Spoke arrangements have designed out this annoyance. Not in this building though. Best foot forward fella and don't be a whingeing Pom about it!
Hardly an answer to our aviation nightmare. This is probably, at least for a decade, going to be a nightmare, because: 1) they're not shutting down the Sydney airport and have shown through flight noise models that aircraft noise will increase in the surrounding suburbs; 2) They haven't planned any fast transport in or out of the airport. Currently the transport in and out is of the stop-at-all-stations variety. So getting in and out of the airport is going to be a huge PITA. They need to fix this so the airport is 30 mins from the city via train maximum. Of course, given it's Australia, they'll probably charge passengers roughly what a taxi would cost to get from the city to the airport (approx. 100 AUD), which is what they did with Sydney airport.
Someone correct me, but I count 14 gates from the video. Fourteen gates is a backwater airport. They say they will double it, but 28 gates is medium-small at best. This is not a big airport, yet they spent $5B AUD.
its a country with a pop of 25 million my guy, and a city of only 5m, temper your expectations my guy... also this is running in conjunction with the other sydney airport, not replacing it outright.
I'm from Western Sydney and the fact that no trains will run past 10PM or so to and fro from the airport baffles me. Will probably be implemented later, but it's a shocking decision nonetheless. That said, ive been following the development closely and its only a matter of time before the Airport starts its operations. The area wont be the same. Gonna miss going on late night drives around the A9 when theres barely anyone on the road lol
I remember reading the FANS report (Future Airport Needs of Sydney) in 1982, Badgerys Creek was a major contender, others mentioned were Holsworthy, Newcastle and I think Wollongong. Also, does anyone know what the ICAO code will be, guessing YNBW, or YWSI ?
It's a 5.3.budget, the spend will amazingly equal the budget, until years later when the under scoping and back ending of cost os revealed. An old trick still working to this day.
Don't know why no 2 runways.. air density clearance won't so quick and every flight needs to be waited for air density clearance as most of the planes are bigger planes to Australia
As the crow flies I live about 15km from the airport. If I was to travel to the new one by train I'll have to catch 4 trains. To go to the existing airport it's a single direct train of around 35 mins. Why would I go to the new one?
>airport has been there since 1919 >people are complaining that there are planes flying over there house hmm, i wonder if all those people bought their houses before or after 1919
Is it just me or does it seem like two runways just aren't going to be enough for the volume they're talking about? Sure, you can have one for landings and one for takeoffs, but I wonder.... Also, can we get to see Fred in a Speedo on Bondi Beach?
Dumb as dirt! SYD-MEL is THE highest revenue generating city pair IN THE WORLD. Flights in both directions every 15 - 30 mins. Distance is approximately 800km. That is, the same as Paris - Marseille which has 1000 passenger capacity HSR trains in both directions every 30 -60 mins. This airport would never be needed if Australia had had half a brain for strategic thinking (it doesn't), as much of the congestion at SYD is generated by SYD-MEL. The public are brainwashed not to question public funding of roads and air travel but go batshit over spending anything on rail. Oligarchy.
There are about 1,000 aircraft movements at SYD every day, of which about 60 are to/from MEL. Replace those with rail, you still have a capacity problem & the requirement for an airport without a curfew. HSR is not the magic bullet (pun intended) that you think it is.
SYD has a bigger problem than passenger aircraft movement. Freight cargo. With the curfew its highly limited for freight but WSI opens that up fully and being able to position the airport next to one of the largest logistics hubs in the country increases efficiency too. The demand for faster parcel services is just going to keep increasing and SYD most certainly won't be able to keep up.
People 2day think $5B is a wad of cash but that $5B will be repaid in the 1st year $200 a day parking fees, $40 beers, $120 for a glass of wine, $300 to take a piss
One of the issues with the new airport is a class issue. The historic Sydney airport had been 24 hrs for yrs! But then the wealthy residents around Sydney Bay complained and got the airport to have a curfew. They then built his western airport around poorer suburbs and said it would be 24hrs. When the poorer suburbs were understandably upset the government coudnt give a shit. No curfew for them. Even worse as they syeny airport people knew the airport was there when they moved in. The western one was greenlit far more recently so if you already lived there, congrats your going to be hearing bowing plans all night
It’s so annoying how residents who want the country’s economy to go up are not willing to put up with a new airport. They’re always against them…like chill. It’s not the end of the world. And it helps the far MANY then just you. You don’t like it, move. You have years of warning ahead.
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He said “ eventually “ That many passengers per year That’s the long term projection In approx / over 20 years time, once the second runway is built, and a lot more expansion etc, of what is initially operating, as of 2026.
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Is the old airport going to keep operating or will that be shut down eventually?
I have worked on this project as a grader operator for the last 6 year, and its my last day tomorrow. It has been a epic project and I'm looking forward to not having to drive to the city for my next holiday. Which is on Sunday, straight to the Philipines and beyond.
You guys must be slow as hell.
@@JohnDoryPsh That's a bit bloody mean.
@@loncesponce6653 Aye, I agree. Though I fault the system not the contractors.
@@JohnDoryPsh What you need to remember is that all the fill needs to compact to a firm base which can take a year or more. No use in doing it quickly and the foundations or runway ends up with cracking. Brisbane's second runway took 3 years to be ready for construction.
Enjoy your holiday dude 🤟😎
I love it when people buy a house next to an airport and then complain about living next to an airport.
People were protesting this airport 40 years ago. People lived in the area.
@gusdrivinginaustralia6168 I'm taking about the old airport, not the new one.
@darrylstark9259 indeed. Happens with alot of things. Like motor racing circuits. Pubs.
@@gusdrivinginaustralia6168 artillery ranges is a local one for me. Turns out some folk don't like being woken up at 2am by a gun line a few miles outside the village.
There's a nuclear reactor in Lucas Heights which was built away from residents. You can guess what happened next.
Western Sydney Airport is at least 90 minutes from the city; there is no direct fast train, this is no Narita. In a brainwave, the government decided trains will not run 24 hours, so you're stranded if you arrive after 10 PM. You must remember that Australia is a country where politicians cannot think past their next toilet break.
Believe it or not but not everyone wants to go to the Central Business District. Most want the suburbs.
@@gusdrivinginaustralia6168agreed, gone are the days that everything revolves around the cbd
Sydney CBD is disgusting. And They killed the night life. Much to my surprise Blacktown and mount druitt is more modern than CBD
Its actually closer than the existing airport for many residents in the western suburbs and a new metro connects it to the existing rail system at St Marys. However many users will be based in the west so won’t need a fast connection to the CBD. People can book a ticket to the old airport nearer the CBD if this one doesn’t suit them. As demand grows the second runway will be built and the metro connection can be extended if required so it has been planned with future growth in mind.
I would compare it to Incheon. No one realises how far that actually is from Seoul. I have left Korea many years ago, so maybe it changed, but it was a regular bus you had to catch. The KTX was only between Busan and Seoul at the time and it went throw Daegoo. I lived in Shanghai too and Pudong Airport wasn’t convenient to the city either. That Maglev only took you halfway.
But also Sydney has been developing hard at having other CBDs, and Parramatta as an example is unrecognisable. Right now it has the life of North Sydney, not really a CBD alternative yet, but it’s getting there. But it will help Liverpool grow and Penrith might be relevant.
The really incredible thing about this airport is that it is just a part of a much larger project - Bradfield City which incorporates the Aerotropolis, Metro and M12 motorway.
This was sorely needed! When flying back from london, Sydney airport was so busy that my flight was diverted to MELBOURNE to refuel. This is going to be an amazing new development
And yet could have been mitigated by an airport like Newcastle nearby. It’s about a 10-20min flight away
@@voyeur4994newcastle is also an afb so i dont think upgrading it solely for the purpose of commercial flight is a good idea
Meanwhile in Melbourne we can’t even get a rail link to the airport
I've been hearing about that as a little girl living in Essendon. I move from Essendon more than 50 years ago! The skybus has a stranglehold on transport, but it's far inferior to a real train. If they just extended from Essendon station 50 years ago, it would have been far cheaper and easier than the modern suggestions.
Melbourne is worst major airport in Australia. They should knock it down and build a new terminal. And not a replica of the T4 shed either!
Yeah, stupidity indeed. The 5 mil. city and no train to the airport :( facepalm!
Vic hasnt had the federal support that NSW or other states have gotten. Its been running on its own steam for ages
blame the airport for not wanting to build it, rather keeping their precious little carparks. Moreso, blame whichever previous government sold off the airport and put it into private hands.
One day you'll do a video on the Melbourne Airport rail link. One day...
Or Perth's
@@Themadmait Perth's already exists, Melbourne's is still decades away
@@Themadmait Me trying to remember how I got from the airport in Perth to the city 10 years ago. Nope I'm blank.
It's impressive Sydney managed to build a whole new airport, driverless metro system, westconnex and new stadiums in Moore Park and Parramatta in the last 10-15 years and Melbourne in all that time has been talking about the airport rail link and still haven't started construction on it
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I worked for cox architects during the time that they were working on the initial design stages of western Sydney airport, such an amazing project that I was able to get acquainted with from its early days and now it’s nearly finished!
I used to live in Penrith. Its nice to see that the place is getting its own airport.
I read Perth and I thought it was a snarky comment about how far west from the center of sydney the new airport is.
Once you land, it may still be quicker to get to Perth, than Sydney CBD.
We will find out.
Been watching the build, it's gonna be a busy place in a few years!
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It will be a weird.mix of Westfield and Business Park with perpetual air noise. Plus good old Elizabeth Drive.
Without the 24 hour train it will be a bit of an Avalon style white elephant there for a while. I suspect good old Skybus has already got their tentacles into transporting passengers out of there.
I've gotten to tour the site early into construction and very recently too. It's an impressive operation that I think is necessary even excepting for all the recent population growth. Sydney Airport is just too congested and ill-equipped to handle all of the city's aviation traffic. There was a lot of pushback and I've heard whining about the flightpaths but with the exception of some specific areas that will be significantly impacted everyone else is getting a 10 sec a day annoyance.
Local residents only moved into the area after the announcement of the airport so they'd get appreciating real estate lol. The airport came first, not them.
And those are the worst NIMBY people.
Unfortunately that is not the case. People have lived in the same area of the airport and surrounding suburbs for longer than the announcement of the airport.
Comments section has lots of people complaining unnecessarily.
1. Population is being handled with new housing and mixed use developments. Sydney has one of the lowest densities in the world, it's absurd how many single family houses are near the biggest parts of the city so this is long overdue.
2. The metro will open in 2026 but unfortunately no solid connections yet. At least it'll be a huge boost to what will be Sydney's 3rd CBD.
3. This airport isn't meant to just direct to the CBD, this is a separate space entirely which will connected by a new line in 2032.
There are problems but they are being fixed.
Very fun and interesting video btw
Unnecessarily? I'll have you know that as Australians complaining is like breathing - very necessary.
@SP-ny1fk Lmao
New housing. Sure just sell a few limbs to pay for a deposit.
Oslo did the something similar around 2000. Only we closed the original airport and moved all the traffic to the Newish Airport with two Runways. It was a small airport with only one Runway before that. Also we included a high speed rail service to the airport as well.
I live in Sydney. The renders in this video reminded me a bit of Gardermoen.
My wife is from Tønsberg, so I always dislike getting there from Gardermoen in the middle of your summer holidays with «buss for tog».
I cam guarantee it is more functional than anything we'll build here...unless what we build here cosr 10x the price. Ridiculous trying to get anything logical done in my country but particularly Sydney - that city will never function properly
As a Aussie, always impressed on how much research you do. Good work! Love ya videos. Keep it up! :-)
Though always well presented, that was a summary of three press releases and a wikipedia article.
No wonder it takes you guys so long to build an airport in a sheep field.
Good lord,.it's.copy and paste straight off the owner website
"as an Aussie," cringe
It has been a long wait. The goverment back in the 1980s was talking about building this airport. They also talked about High Speed railway between Sydney and Melbourne and Brisbane which hasn't even started construction.
What's the bet they put a train line to the new airport, privatise it and charge each passenger $60 each way.
Another great vid 👏👏 Thanks!!
So Mogadishu's new airport will be more expensive than Sydney's new airport? Interesting times we live in
That's not surprising given the forethought that's gone into this.
For example the airport is in Liverpool a city of 250,000 people. But there will be no rail link to Liverpool.
The airport link will be to a suburb to the north of the airport with 13,000 population. In the hopes that people Penrith a city with 220,000 population will use it.
Why either of these cities weren't directly connected will remain a mystery.
But don't worry after they began construction they realised all their error so they are considering a possible rail expansion to connect to another suburb called Luddenham population 1500 located in between Liverpool and Campbelltown (population 186,000)
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My Dad worked on the business case for the Western Sydney Airport in 1975. Badgerys Creek (the location chosen) came out on top as the best place to build it. Cue the politicians spending the next 40+ years trying to find a "better" location for it and finally settling on Badgerys anyway...
This one is going to be a winner. The current Sydney airport is no fun on the best of days. Melbourne could really do with another big airport in the eastern area
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Damn the editing tho 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
A majority of arrivals to Sydney are from Domestic flights. If there was high speed rail up the east coast, it could easily cut down the number of flights needed into the airport.
The transport options seem pretty poor for a brand new major airport. The train from the airport to St Mary's (far from the centre of Sydney) will apparently take 15 mins, then it's another hour to the centre! Or about an hour to drive the whole way.
8:57 I hope there will be also a fast train service connecting the airport to downtown, otherweise it would be the very same mistake like at Munich Intl Airport in Germany: 2 commuter rail lines where it takes about an hour to get into the city, and no quicker train service serving only the airport. With the commuter rail lines it also gets a bit tight with both people to and from the airport mixing up with local commuters
No fast train, only metro to Parramatta then to central, then to Sydney International.
If the rail link is past St Mary's even an express train would easily be 45mins+
@@DavidBarwick-hb7eo that's easily 1.5 to 2 hrs
@@mrdozey7361 that's sad; In case of Oslo Airport in Norway they're running high-speed trains on a 10 minute schedule, taking only 19 minutes to cover the distance
In Munich it's half the distance but more than twice the travel time
@@DavidBarwick-hb7eo that's bad ...
I’m so excited to fly here when I go on holiday
This is a classic Sydney case of
Only cars will get you there
Watching this all come together whilst flying over the development has been magical. A bit of a shame that it cuts into our Training Area Airspace, but the number of flying jobs the Airport creates is gonna be great for new pilots!
Lets goooo! I was waiting for you to make a video on WSI. I live 15 mins away and I'm so excited to have access the world, so close to home.
Mamre Road will be hell
1:05 Landing strips??!! It's not the Flying Doctors in the outback Bruce!
Runway, right.
I lived in Sydney for a few years. A great city. I loved my time there, but the airport was woefully inadequte. The one really great thing about it, was it's proximity to Sydney City. But...the Western Airport couldn't happen soon enough. It will really breathe new life into especially the Western suburbs and it will really soften the traffic congestion that always happens around Sydney Airport. Sydney is a difficult city for infrastructure with all it's inlets and hilly terrain, but The West is more open and easy to develop. The ideal place for a new airport.
So what's the plan for the old airport once this opens?
Thank you!! Will they close the old airport? How will the old airport site be developed?
No, there are no plans to close the old airport.
Didn’t know Ikea had air terminal flat packs.
Awesome video guys. The interior of the terminal looks great, but the outside looks a bit drab, right?? 😂😬
Well, Aussies were involved, so what did you expect? Couldn't get the Opera House sorted and that's about the only building anyone recognizes.
What I find strange is that the whole Leppington line isn't going to be extended to the new airport. It would seem logical as it would be way cheaper and would provide a link from the new airport to both the old airport and the city for passengers and freight.
The plan is to link the new airport to Glenfield (or maybe Leppington) probably with an extension of the WSI Airport Metro Line. Also to extend the Metro from Bankstown to Liverpool. It will depend on what option they take as to the missing link from Liverpool to Glenfield/Leppington. Possibly a new Metro line from the new airport to Parramatta. All that is well in the future though. And there was no way the previous government was going to extend any Sydney Trains lines to the new airport.
30 miles west, what happened to kilometres?
Poms happened
Melbourne experimented with the idea of a second airport by opening up AAV (Avalon) to passenger traffic and many a number passenger found out the hard way that the connection from AAV to the city was a lot more complicated than from Tullamarine, often offsetting any perceived savings from flying the cheaper routes to Avalon.
Unfortunately Australia is well known for the lack of end to end public transports between the city and the airport; instead opting to populate unnecessary carparks and toll roads that are also owned by the conglomerate that own the airports, so I don’t imagine WSI will be a return destination for tourist or business travelers; leaving this a very expensive route for airlines to service.
Knowing Australia, there will never be a fast connection to the CBD so most international passengers will do their best to avoid.
Once this is open, what's the plan for the current international airport?
Sell it off to some mates of the current government for 1% of the true value, so they can make billions of dollars, if past experience proves true
Business as usual for the current Airport.
Sydney population is approx 6 million people
Over 2 million people live in the Western areas, which is closer to this airport location
24/7 operating
No curfew
A lot more cargo and freight
City of Canberra has a population of near
500,000 people
This new airport location definitely suits them.
The new airport is well overdue !
It will be a huge driver of more economic activity etc.
The existing airport will continue to operate at very busy levels of activity
Hey Fred, this post is timely as Australia is investign heavily into its airports with Perth Airport being tested for a $5bil development also ... Big money on infra....and happy to see it
Great stuff. Next do Melbourne Airport Rail Link.. Oh no, thats right. After 50 years, Melbourne still has not decided on where or how to build the rail link to the city.
Great nice new airport! 👍
The M12 motorway is being developed to provide direct road access between the airport and Sydney's motorway network, facilitating efficient ground transportation.
Some of your B-roll is very out of date and I'm not sure why you showed an old image of Moore Park when speaking about the Olympics....
It will be so hot in that airport with that direct sunlight - Thunder dome anyone? two men enter... one man dies of heat stroke
I flew into Sydney this year. It was a good airport as long as the new airport has room for expansion beyond just 2 runways and the big terminal it will do fine don’t make the same mistake as London Heathrow have at least enough space for four runways in the future. Like soul Inchon phases of expansion.
The urgent return policy for aircraft in distress is interesting. Normally they would fly over the ocean and dump fuel to make them light enough to stop before the end of the runway. For WSI, fuel dumping will be into Sydney's main water supply at the foot of the Blue Mountains.
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Correction, Toowoomba Wellcamp was the last airport built on a greenfield site and that opened in 2014 so not quite 50years
Sydney Metro West is currently under construction between the Sydney CBD and Westmead. The approaches to the airport are designed to allow space for Metro West to be extended from Westmead to the Airport with new platforms next to the Airport Business Park Station and the Airport Station.
Hello B1M. I have been waiting for a video about Roghun HPS with its highest dam in the world (335m) in Tajikistan which is under construction now and it's been under construction for long years back then USSR times. It would be interesting to see and know more about it.
1:50 you say 2000 Sydney Olympics, but that is clearly an aerial shot of the SCG and not Olympic Park.
It's amazing how affluent suburbs can get a curfew enacted - just like that.
The funny thing is these suburbs aren’t affluent. They were cheap shitty homes that once were for the common man.
@@voyeur4994correct, amazing how some Comments can't grasp that.
I would love to visit Sydney someday, just sad how expensive flights are from North America and Europe, the places I live. 😢 But Australia and New Zealand are so beautiful. Great architecture, people, and wildlife.
Don't bother, there is really nothing here worth spending all that money on. You can see Kangaroos and Koalas in the Zoo which is most likely the only way you will see them if you come here.
@@smokingun397 what a stupid, unhelpful comment. OP - save up and come here someday - we live in a remarkable, diverse and beautiful country and you'll be welcome anytime!
@@Jnoooooo Whether you think it's stupid or not it's absolutely correct. If being 'diverse' is the best you can come up with I rest my case 🙂
@@HelloHi-g2u We’d love you to visit. Hopefully the new airport might make it that little bit more economical for some people.
@@smokingun397 You should go move North Korea
As ever, an engaging informative video, thank you. Who knew that all those figures and details of the construction process would be quite so captivating‽
And you didn't let my favourite bit of your videos get lost in the jetwash. Yes the laugh a minute architect-speak self - agrandising fluff about the ceiling echoing the contours of the nearby Blue Mountains. Priceless!
Just one thing though. I wonder if it has anything to do with it being such a long-planned project that the final version of the terminal's design is so out-dated?
Perhaps there'll be a super modern people mover to get the passengers from entry to the distant gatei. Otherwise, nobody builds airports like this anymore.
Long boxes have been superceded by spiders web spokes and satellite terminals to avoid the very problem present here. Nobody wants to have to drag their suitcase half a mile from check in to their departure gate anymore. Spoke arrangements have designed out this annoyance. Not in this building though.
Best foot forward fella and don't be a whingeing Pom about it!
STILL LOOKS LIKE AN AIR-CONDITIONED SHEARING SHED !!!!!!!
Hardly an answer to our aviation nightmare. This is probably, at least for a decade, going to be a nightmare, because: 1) they're not shutting down the Sydney airport and have shown through flight noise models that aircraft noise will increase in the surrounding suburbs; 2) They haven't planned any fast transport in or out of the airport. Currently the transport in and out is of the stop-at-all-stations variety. So getting in and out of the airport is going to be a huge PITA. They need to fix this so the airport is 30 mins from the city via train maximum. Of course, given it's Australia, they'll probably charge passengers roughly what a taxi would cost to get from the city to the airport (approx. 100 AUD), which is what they did with Sydney airport.
How does this affect Lebron’s legacy?
That's a valid query
What does he have to do with this video?
@@andrecastillo5232everything.
Some American meme
@@andrecastillo5232just a joke my man, just a joke
First airport built in Australia on a greenfield site in 50 years? What about Wellencamp International Airport (WTB) in Towoomba?
Someone correct me, but I count 14 gates from the video. Fourteen gates is a backwater airport. They say they will double it, but 28 gates is medium-small at best. This is not a big airport, yet they spent $5B AUD.
Guessing you’re not from here? Australia IS a backwater, compared to USA and Europe.
its a country with a pop of 25 million my guy, and a city of only 5m, temper your expectations my guy... also this is running in conjunction with the other sydney airport, not replacing it outright.
I'm from Western Sydney and the fact that no trains will run past 10PM or so to and fro from the airport baffles me. Will probably be implemented later, but it's a shocking decision nonetheless.
That said, ive been following the development closely and its only a matter of time before the Airport starts its operations.
The area wont be the same. Gonna miss going on late night drives around the A9 when theres barely anyone on the road lol
Erm was that the SCG? I must have missed the cricket at the Sydney olympics…
Isn't crushed sandstone the same thing as sand? Or am I missing something?
I hope I'm not too old to get a job there I've been waiting for it for the last 40 years
I remember reading the FANS report (Future Airport Needs of Sydney) in 1982, Badgerys Creek was a major contender, others mentioned were Holsworthy, Newcastle and I think Wollongong.
Also, does anyone know what the ICAO code will be, guessing YNBW, or YWSI ?
Someone needs to help the project director escape Charlie Brown's telephone.
3.6 billion dollars this price tag is still pretty budget friendly in aviation industry, it’s just equivalent to 9 A380 at marked price
It's a 5.3.budget, the spend will amazingly equal the budget, until years later when the under scoping and back ending of cost os revealed. An old trick still working to this day.
Flight paths over our water catchment area & world heritage listed national park with zero curfew. Mascot could keep running until 2050 with 24/7
Ignition of aerosolised eucalyptus oil over the national park is my nightmare scenario.
It's a freight airport
@@mike-williamswon't be a problem
Where does the map at the 9:00 mark come from?
It looks different to other maps or plans presented for the aydney metro?
Is publicly sourced if you look in the right place and speak nicely to the Comms team
Please make one video on Navi Mumbai Airport, very similar case but more intriguing.
Don't know why no 2 runways.. air density clearance won't so quick and every flight needs to be waited for air density clearance as most of the planes are bigger planes to Australia
Is building a new airport really helping reducing greenhouse gas…? I recognize the need but I cant help thinking about the planet… it is a bit scary.
I can wait to just go have a feed there when its done🤣
the lack of a control tower is worth a mention
Fun fact: there is no tower!
All air traffic will be remotely managed by the Sydney Airport by a system of cameras and direct fibre communications
I saw B1M and "Mega" so obv im gonna stop my revision and watch this beast of a vid!! My structures work aint going in so hopefully this will :)
Just pulled up to the parking lot to work on the main terminal's roof
Still leaking from last summers rain?
The natural light is great but I wish we had learned from Singapore and the standard of advanced green airport building they established.
Would be nice if SG applied that to all of their terminals then… I flew through there a few months ago and it felt like a 1990s casino.
You should do one about the AIFA, it was built in 2 years.
As the crow flies I live about 15km from the airport. If I was to travel to the new one by train I'll have to catch 4 trains. To go to the existing airport it's a single direct train of around 35 mins. Why would I go to the new one?
Jack is so jacked
Fred is so Fred?
@@jhuny it's wednesday my dude
>airport has been there since 1919
>people are complaining that there are planes flying over there house
hmm, i wonder if all those people bought their houses before or after 1919
Is it just me or does it seem like two runways just aren't going to be enough for the volume they're talking about? Sure, you can have one for landings and one for takeoffs, but I wonder....
Also, can we get to see Fred in a Speedo on Bondi Beach?
It'll be fine for 30 years, that second runway is contingency only
Dumb as dirt! SYD-MEL is THE highest revenue generating city pair IN THE WORLD. Flights in both directions every 15 - 30 mins. Distance is approximately 800km. That is, the same as Paris - Marseille which has 1000 passenger capacity HSR trains in both directions every 30 -60 mins. This airport would never be needed if Australia had had half a brain for strategic thinking (it doesn't), as much of the congestion at SYD is generated by SYD-MEL. The public are brainwashed not to question public funding of roads and air travel but go batshit over spending anything on rail. Oligarchy.
There are about 1,000 aircraft movements at SYD every day, of which about 60 are to/from MEL. Replace those with rail, you still have a capacity problem & the requirement for an airport without a curfew. HSR is not the magic bullet (pun intended) that you think it is.
@@Craig-dr7gl SYD-MEL by HSR also gives you SYD-CBR (very high frequency) and if extended north to BNE you are looking at a significant reduction.
why take a train that takes over 3 times as much time as a flight?
SYD has a bigger problem than passenger aircraft movement.
Freight cargo. With the curfew its highly limited for freight but WSI opens that up fully and being able to position the airport next to one of the largest logistics hubs in the country increases efficiency too.
The demand for faster parcel services is just going to keep increasing and SYD most certainly won't be able to keep up.
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Wonder why they can’t do projects concurrently, metro connection to new airport would make people less resistant to the inconvenience?
It’s a tiny airport that no-one would sensibly choose to fly to. Pretty much a mini-me of the existing airport.
People 2day think $5B is a wad of cash but that $5B will be repaid in the 1st year
$200 a day parking fees, $40 beers, $120 for a glass of wine, $300 to take a piss
One of the issues with the new airport is a class issue. The historic Sydney airport had been 24 hrs for yrs! But then the wealthy residents around Sydney Bay complained and got the airport to have a curfew. They then built his western airport around poorer suburbs and said it would be 24hrs. When the poorer suburbs were understandably upset the government coudnt give a shit. No curfew for them.
Even worse as they syeny airport people knew the airport was there when they moved in. The western one was greenlit far more recently so if you already lived there, congrats your going to be hearing bowing plans all night
It’s so annoying how residents who want the country’s economy to go up are not willing to put up with a new airport. They’re always against them…like chill. It’s not the end of the world. And it helps the far MANY then just you. You don’t like it, move. You have years of warning ahead.
If anyone want's to see a classic Aussie film that is linked to this topic, Check out "The Castle" from 1997. Probably one of the best movies ever made down under.
Only constant in the universe is change.
Much like most things in NSW watch it fail horrendously due to major oversights just like the tram network and the new trains
5:08 he said 82 Million passengers a YEAR! if that's true more then 3x Australians population!
Yeah. Traffic in Singapore or Dubai Airport 12x their countries population.
He said “ eventually “
That many passengers per year
That’s the long term projection
In approx / over 20 years time, once the second runway is built, and a lot more expansion etc, of what is initially operating, as of 2026.
Not until 2060s
By then Australia's population will be 40-50 million
In 40 years time. #fineprint
Literally the second most common problem I get in SC2000.
This airport wont have a control tower. Its going to be fully Digitally operated by a network of cameras.
WCGW
No way aviation safety procedures allow it
@@TheGoQu Its state of the art. Its already being used in Germany. U.K, Norway, etc, and this one too.
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Should have spent the money on high speed rail