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Glad to hear that my A320 type rating is still good on the newest of the family: the A321XLR. Since I am long retired, it won't really do anything for me but the consistent type-rating (and cockpit layout, procdures, aircraft flight characteristics, etc.) for the entire A320 family goes a long way toward making Airbus highly successful and profitable.
For most people, I don't think they know what plane they are getting on, and also I don't think they spend that much time in the Aisle. Most people just sit at their seats and hence the smaller cabin probably wouldn't be that much of a bummer. Like sure a 330neo or 787 would be more comfortable, but I wouldn't mind an A321XLR either if its cheap and the airline is good.
I pick my flights based on the aircraft. I almost always fly the same airline, but if the competition has more favourable equipment, i’ll consider changing. It’s a different service for each aircraft.
I've worked with aircraft logistics and its startling how much better designed the Airbus aircraft truly are. The Airbus are quite simply better designed and healthier for our crews to operate. Imagine having an electric car with a roof so low you have to tilt your head, no ventilation system or moving windows and a charge port on the center of the roof... That's what its like servicing a Boeing. Most shockingly the newer max models make it even worse! Most people under 5'10 require assistance to just plug them in and the power indicator lights work less than half the time.
I fly for a low-cost airline that operates the 320 and 330. 330NEOs have been deferred again and again, while pilot hiring in anticipation of the 321LRs and 321XLRs is going crazy. Its a dream for these low cost carriers being able to eat into the small widebody segment. But for us pilots, it means being stuck in a narrow body fleet for longer, and of course operating 10+hour missions in such a cramped environment.
@ As far as i know there isn’t/won’t have any dedicated crew rest, so that no space is wasted for short missions. And there just isn’t any space to put one. The airlines will just block off seats, just like for the 757. But for us low-cost pilots, that is going to be a torture.
It’s funny to hear the comparison to the Max 10. Boeing hopes that the Max 10 will be certified and ready to compete in the next 2 or 3 years, but how much more will go wrong before then?!
frankly, i think what airbus has going for it is their planes don't fall apart in flight, nor do they install software that could crash their plane and not tell their pilots about it. they seem to be an engineering and safety company first and foremost.
All great points about why this "sleeper build" is going to take over unanticipated swaths of the industry. I think people have underestimated just how much the XLR will do. As a current A321 pilot, I'm excited to start flying the LHR route in the XLR! (and it would be cool to wear your XLR tshirt while I did so!)
The A321xlr needs a simple stretch A322. 220-280 pax +4t cargo. 8 hours range. -12% seat mile cost against the 737-10, -25% against a higher density 788 and -32% against the A330-200 on a similar 6h mission.
I don't agree with the "new markets" Your theory is that people will fly more because it's direct and not a connecting flights. I don't think this is true. I'm on the fence on if this will work or not. I think it'll have a niche but I don't think it's the second coming like so many journalists think. I think there's some kool-aid happening here.
I'd totally love to see some true long-haul from DCA. Yes, I know it's perimeter restricted, but having nonstops to LHR, CDG, GVA, FRA, or MUC would be gold for the international business crowd who has business that's actually *in* Washington, DC. American would be the most natural candidate, tho they're not Airbus leaning. Delta, on the other hand, could make it into something. And speaking of Delta: SLC to so many Euro destinations without needing a widebody would be excellent.
Boeing really screwed up by continuing the 737 program when they should have upgraded the 757 with new engines and electronics. What a great airplane that was to fly. I don’t think the XLR goes that much farther than the 757 with those Rolls Royce engines. And that’s technology from 40 years ago. Imagine newer high efficiency engines.
Cool video! I think it’ll be interesting to see where wizz ends up expanding there network with XLR. I’d like to see the United States but my best bet is probably more Mideast routes from Western Europe
The biggest issue with flying long haul on an A321? The space flex toilets at the back. They're so narrow, a man (specifically) can't sit on them properly. The sink and wall force your legs together, with no room for other things in between. Best hope you don't need a poo on your eleven hour flight, because the front toilets will be for business class only.
Having done almost 6 hours on a narrow body and not enjoyed it, doing 9 hours on one seems awful. I get that it's better for airlines but the passenger experience would be horrible. I would actively avoid one on a route that long.
I’m excited to the A321XLR with Aer Lingus on their vastly expanded NA network. Would it be worth doing a video on this maybe? DUB is set to become the best connected airport with north america in 2025, with more direct routes than CDG or AMS
The 321XLR is a revolution. I love this concept so much. Germany is a good example. Our capital Berlin has only 3 intercontinental fligths a day, compared to the 100+ of Munich and Frankfurt (the Big Lufthansa Hubs). This sucks to be honest. Fliing intercontinental from the east of germany is terrible. Berlin New York or Washington would be easy with the XLR. And fun fact: Berlin-Nashville with ~4.676 miles would be the the limit for the XLR. Lucky incident?! ❤
Hawaii has a large proportion of Filipino migrants. The A321XLR has just enough range to: -Increase flight frequency between Manila and Honolulu -Create new routes between Manila and Hawaiian secondary airports in Hilo, Kahului, or Lihue -Create new routes between Honolulu and the Philippines' secondary airports in Cebu, Davao, and Iloilo
@@Dredswich The range accounts for all that, otherwise sayign an aircraft has a 8700km range would be meaningless, if it actually could only fly missions shorter than that
@bonelesswatermelon420 OK let's look at this. First ignore any kilometer comments. Air routes don't work in kilometers. They work in nautical miles. Okay so the xlr range is 4700 nm and HNL to MNL is 4607 nm. Now with the prevailing winds the eastbound flight is doable but the westbound wouldn't work. Furthermore you usually want a 10% fuel reserve so it's unlike either direction would work.
If all airlines configure the business class on the XLR in the same was as Iberia it's not going to be a popular plane. With every business seat facing into the Isle and away from the window, people are going to feel exposed. If you have to, even slightly, look over your shoulder to see the Isle you'll feal less vulnerable when sleeping on a long haul fight
While this former fan-boy of Boeing and now prefer Airbus aircraft… and definitely love the A321neo and love the technological advancements of the XLR… but still struggle with having to sit in a narrow-body single aisle aircraft for longer than 5-6 hour flight. The airlines better not skimp on narrow-ass uncomfortable seats in economy thinking they can make more profits. Makes me nervous. But on the other hand, I’m looking forward to flying on an XLR and experience this beautiful Airbus aircraft
Yes it will in a bad way. - fly long haul even more uncomfortable. - 3 + 3 seating still sucks - you bet airlines won’t fit spacious legroom to even stretch out Give us back wide bodies to fly these long haul routes -_- or give us another B757.
I did 9hrs on the A321LR and it was pretty much the same as any widebody. Only downside was the access to the lavatories/washrooms. But it was not as horrible as people make it out to be. Just another long-haul flight.
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For me personally, Flying over 9 hour in a Narrow Body. No thank you. Especially when we count the Climate Change and The weather right now. I will be feel safer when flying a wide body in a flight with more than 7 hour
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Glad to hear that my A320 type rating is still good on the newest of the family: the A321XLR. Since I am long retired, it won't really do anything for me but the consistent type-rating (and cockpit layout, procdures, aircraft flight characteristics, etc.) for the entire A320 family goes a long way toward making Airbus highly successful and profitable.
We have A321XLR before GTA 6
surprised this meme can survive this much dragging
yeah because gta 6 haven't released yet so they do that
Before the 777x even gets certified
We'll definitely have GTA 6 before the 777X smh
For most people, I don't think they know what plane they are getting on, and also I don't think they spend that much time in the Aisle. Most people just sit at their seats and hence the smaller cabin probably wouldn't be that much of a bummer. Like sure a 330neo or 787 would be more comfortable, but I wouldn't mind an A321XLR either if its cheap and the airline is good.
I pick my flights based on the aircraft. I almost always fly the same airline, but if the competition has more favourable equipment, i’ll consider changing. It’s a different service for each aircraft.
@@jaysmith1408 Barely though... how much of the aircraft actually impacts what experience u have? Its usually the products and service onboard.
I've worked with aircraft logistics and its startling how much better designed the Airbus aircraft truly are. The Airbus are quite simply better designed and healthier for our crews to operate. Imagine having an electric car with a roof so low you have to tilt your head, no ventilation system or moving windows and a charge port on the center of the roof... That's what its like servicing a Boeing. Most shockingly the newer max models make it even worse! Most people under 5'10 require assistance to just plug them in and the power indicator lights work less than half the time.
10 hour flights without a crew rest compartment is criminal
I fly for a low-cost airline that operates the 320 and 330. 330NEOs have been deferred again and again, while pilot hiring in anticipation of the 321LRs and 321XLRs is going crazy. Its a dream for these low cost carriers being able to eat into the small widebody segment. But for us pilots, it means being stuck in a narrow body fleet for longer, and of course operating 10+hour missions in such a cramped environment.
I was wondering about the economics of having crew rest areas or reserved seats for pilots on longer flights with the XLR. Any insights to share?
@ As far as i know there isn’t/won’t have any dedicated crew rest, so that no space is wasted for short missions. And there just isn’t any space to put one.
The airlines will just block off seats, just like for the 757. But for us low-cost pilots, that is going to be a torture.
757s were even more cramped, weren't they?
Just came back from a trip to boston in the XLR... surprisingly nice. Flew with Jetblue, and they are awesome!
@saibotyurico there's only one XLR in service and it ain't owned by JetBlue. It's not even in the U.S.
Was it XLR or LR? AFAIK, Jetblue deferred XLR deliveries until 2030 and beyond.
It’s funny to hear the comparison to the Max 10. Boeing hopes that the Max 10 will be certified and ready to compete in the next 2 or 3 years, but how much more will go wrong before then?!
A really good question. If it's Boeing I'm not going.
frankly, i think what airbus has going for it is their planes don't fall apart in flight, nor do they install software that could crash their plane and not tell their pilots about it. they seem to be an engineering and safety company first and foremost.
We got A321XLR before Boeing 777X, Boeing 737 Max 7, Max 10 and Boeing 787-10ER.
Boeing should have never cancelled the 757.
What they spent on stock buybacks could have funded a 737/757 replacement
All great points about why this "sleeper build" is going to take over unanticipated swaths of the industry. I think people have underestimated just how much the XLR will do.
As a current A321 pilot, I'm excited to start flying the LHR route in the XLR! (and it would be cool to wear your XLR tshirt while I did so!)
Canceling the 757 and the 797 MOM proves to be another boneheaded Boeing decision.
The A321xlr needs a simple stretch A322. 220-280 pax +4t cargo. 8 hours range. -12% seat mile cost against the 737-10, -25% against a higher density 788 and -32% against the A330-200 on a similar 6h mission.
And the 737-7 and -10 haven't even been certified LOL
Not even comparable with the MAX fiasco overall, but to be fair FAA didn't certify A321XLR as well.
I don't agree with the "new markets" Your theory is that people will fly more because it's direct and not a connecting flights. I don't think this is true. I'm on the fence on if this will work or not. I think it'll have a niche but I don't think it's the second coming like so many journalists think. I think there's some kool-aid happening here.
I struggle with long flights in economy or premium economy seats, but I'd love this as an option from Toronto to France or Frankfurt for the low cost!
11 hours? In a narrow body? ugh ...no thanks, gonna pass
8:57 I can see why there was no route to Europe... Who's got the bunny ears on.
I'd totally love to see some true long-haul from DCA. Yes, I know it's perimeter restricted, but having nonstops to LHR, CDG, GVA, FRA, or MUC would be gold for the international business crowd who has business that's actually *in* Washington, DC. American would be the most natural candidate, tho they're not Airbus leaning. Delta, on the other hand, could make it into something. And speaking of Delta: SLC to so many Euro destinations without needing a widebody would be excellent.
Isn’t it relatively quick and convenient to take the train directly from IAD?
Is the runway long enough to take a 101tonne A321XLR?
Hmm- maybe some transatlantic flights, like Kyiv to Washington
It won’t stop here. In a decade or so all it takes is a narrow body to fly inter continental or even trans pacific. I can’t wait.
Boeing really screwed up by continuing the 737 program when they should have upgraded the 757 with new engines and electronics. What a great airplane that was to fly. I don’t think the XLR goes that much farther than the 757 with those Rolls Royce engines. And that’s technology from 40 years ago. Imagine newer high efficiency engines.
I would love Wizz Air to fly Liverpool (LPL) to New York (JFK or EWR) with an A321XLR.
You could do a mission with that plane between PHX and LHR
maybe as an ACJ
Love those shirts. Ich hope an airline will launch STR-BOS❤
Cool video! I think it’ll be interesting to see where wizz ends up expanding there network with XLR. I’d like to see the United States but my best bet is probably more Mideast routes from Western Europe
The biggest issue with flying long haul on an A321? The space flex toilets at the back. They're so narrow, a man (specifically) can't sit on them properly. The sink and wall force your legs together, with no room for other things in between. Best hope you don't need a poo on your eleven hour flight, because the front toilets will be for business class only.
Having done almost 6 hours on a narrow body and not enjoyed it, doing 9 hours on one seems awful. I get that it's better for airlines but the passenger experience would be horrible. I would actively avoid one on a route that long.
I want to see the XLR do a transpacific, maybe Seattle to Tokyo if it has the legs
It might open up secondary cities too, like Sapporo
its just a teeny bit too far to make it to tokyo or sapporo
@alphamalegold yea it won't work for trans pacific flights. This is a trans Atlantic design
Hmm, makes me wonder if Boeing is going to respond with the 737DMX?
If you get that joke, you're awesome.
I’m excited to the A321XLR with Aer Lingus on their vastly expanded NA network. Would it be worth doing a video on this maybe?
DUB is set to become the best connected airport with north america in 2025, with more direct routes than CDG or AMS
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A321XLR has one MAJOR flaw.
Airbus can't build them fast enough!
The 321XLR is a revolution. I love this concept so much. Germany is a good example. Our capital Berlin has only 3 intercontinental fligths a day, compared to the 100+ of Munich and Frankfurt (the Big Lufthansa Hubs). This sucks to be honest. Fliing intercontinental from the east of germany is terrible. Berlin New York or Washington would be easy with the XLR. And fun fact: Berlin-Nashville with ~4.676 miles would be the the limit for the XLR. Lucky incident?! ❤
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Hawaii has a large proportion of Filipino migrants. The A321XLR has just enough range to:
-Increase flight frequency between Manila and Honolulu
-Create new routes between Manila and Hawaiian secondary airports in Hilo, Kahului, or Lihue
-Create new routes between Honolulu and the Philippines' secondary airports in Cebu, Davao, and Iloilo
A321XLR has a range of up to 8,700 kilometers. Honolulu to Manila is 8,493.66km. Will this aircraft have enough to taxi, takeoff and fuel reserves?
@@Dredswich The range accounts for all that, otherwise sayign an aircraft has a 8700km range would be meaningless, if it actually could only fly missions shorter than that
@bonelesswatermelon420 OK let's look at this. First ignore any kilometer comments. Air routes don't work in kilometers. They work in nautical miles. Okay so the xlr range is 4700 nm and HNL to MNL is 4607 nm. Now with the prevailing winds the eastbound flight is doable but the westbound wouldn't work. Furthermore you usually want a 10% fuel reserve so it's unlike either direction would work.
Did you mean 'Reva-plane-cion'?
Aboba!
You are better than clicking baiting titles.
Seattle Tacoma International to Seoul South Korea
Have you made a video about Palantir and Skywise and how it made Airbus production more efficient by around 30%?
If all airlines configure the business class on the XLR in the same was as Iberia it's not going to be a popular plane.
With every business seat facing into the Isle and away from the window, people are going to feel exposed.
If you have to, even slightly, look over your shoulder to see the Isle you'll feal less vulnerable when sleeping on a long haul fight
Cool
While this former fan-boy of Boeing and now prefer Airbus aircraft… and definitely love the A321neo and love the technological advancements of the XLR… but still struggle with having to sit in a narrow-body single aisle aircraft for longer than 5-6 hour flight. The airlines better not skimp on narrow-ass uncomfortable seats in economy thinking they can make more profits. Makes me nervous. But on the other hand, I’m looking forward to flying on an XLR and experience this beautiful Airbus aircraft
Sorry couldn't help this but when said being away for a month durring 2024, every European thought .... is that all? That's not many weeks away🤣
Yes it will in a bad way.
- fly long haul even more uncomfortable.
- 3 + 3 seating still sucks
- you bet airlines won’t fit spacious legroom to even stretch out
Give us back wide bodies to fly these long haul routes -_- or give us another B757.
I did 9hrs on the A321LR and it was pretty much the same as any widebody. Only downside was the access to the lavatories/washrooms.
But it was not as horrible as people make it out to be. Just another long-haul flight.
Ok... and how would a 757 help with any of that, exactly? It too is a narrow body with a 3 pluss 3 seat layout...
Wrong. Fewer passengers on the plane = fewer crying babies, more bathroom availability, quicker boarding/unboarding. 3 + 3 wins
757 was a 3-3 layout. Why do you want that over this?
A321xlr is a very beautiful very efficient plane but I don’t want to be hoping to sit on it for 9hr
The Delta A321LR with approx 150 seats has a better Business Class than Emirates on their 777. Economy would always be packed as cattle though
So it's basically a Boeing killer
Wait why cook unity what happened to fresh
Looking for this. Oh boy, another bloody meal service. At least with Fresh, the food wasn’t bad, but the actual fulfillment and delivery companies were horrible. Disclaimer, in our area, they contract it out instead of using FedEx.
Nope; crammed into a small plane for 8 hours, not for me.
ive waited way to long for this plane
For me personally, Flying over 9 hour in a Narrow Body. No thank you. Especially when we count the Climate Change and The weather right now. I will be feel safer when flying a wide body in a flight with more than 7 hour
First time under 3 min
Who will be the launch operator of the PW powered XLR?
Wizz Air is a likely candidate but Qantas also has a chance. Another would have been JetBlue but they deffered theirs
The background music is extremely irritating
Please pronounce Boing properly.
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