Noco You Suck! WATCH THIS IF YOUR NOCO GBX Will Not Take A Charge!
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If you have a NOCO GBX series (GBX 55, GBX 75, GBX 155) watch this video so you will know how to charge your jump box. There is an issue that NOCO has not addressed with these jump packs not taking a recharge or not even charging new out of the box. In this video I explain why it is happening and how you can "SAVE" your Noco jump pack. I also explain the difference between the GB and the GBX Series.
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Many types of power packs have this sort issue, it's not just specific to Noco' jump starters.
We use a lot of drone power packs which will go into hibernation if the on board battery levels drop below a certain, it's a precaution built into the pack not to completely drain the batteries to a point of no return. Power packs basically try to save a couple of volts in reserve to have a starting point, the trick is dont let it get to that stage where it wants to hibernate.
Parrot drone power packs are one of the best on the market but are known for going into hibernation if run down too low or are not used for a while, the trick is knowing how to "wake" the power pack up to accept a fresh charge.
This is just like the Noco issue in the video, the jump starter is protecting itself by going into hibernation, it thinks the user is draining the batteries to a point of no return and is going into hibernation to protect the batteries.
It sounds to me that Noco are saying to use the car charger to slowly trickle charge the power pack out of it's sleep state and then you can use a fast charger to complete the charging, but trying to use anything to quick once the pack is hibernating will not work .
I would also recommend putting the Noco jumper starter on a charge every few months even if it hasnt been used.
Sounds daft but try to treat the the Noco jump starter just like your car battery, keep it charged up !
After-all , a Noco jump starter is nothing more than a battery, but its a battery that has built in protection which can sometimes be a pain in the a*se !
I am a fleet manager of over a hundred vans & trucks. I bought the gbx75 as a personal jump box and have used it over 50 times in 3 weeks due to the extreme cold. It is a lifesaver, have charged it only a couple times. No problems yet. Thanks for the video I will start charging it with a quarter charge left to hopefully avoid the charging issues. I bought my daughter the gbx 55 for her personal car, gives me peace of mind to know that it is there if she needs it.
I bought gb70 for my ram 1500 on minus 40 it's not starting at all
Thank you for your video. Your suggestion worked for me.
My neighbor had the GBX45 and it was behaving exactly as you described. It would not charge past the 2nd red light. I plugged it into my car's cigarette lighter for 15 minutes and removed the Noco and put it on a normal cellphone charger in the house.
I looked at my Noco cigarette charger adapter and noticed that the output was 5vdc with 2amp. The wall charger that I was using had an output of 5vdc, 700milliamps. My neighbor's wall charger had an output of 5vdc, 1amp. I was lucky and found another adapter with an output of 5vdc, 2amp. That 2amp output really makes a difference and charges the Noco much faster. I feel safe to use the 2amp charger because it is equal to the output of the Noco cigarette lighter adapter.
I have a GB40 and used it to charge my cellphone. This action drained the Noco very low. Using the 2amp output wall charger, it took 3 1/2 hours to start from one red light to full charge. That same charge using the 700 milliamp charger took 8 to 10 hours.
In case anyone is finding this post with the same issue;
I've had a GBX75 for a few years, and really love the device. This year, I went to use it to start up a tractor that had been sitting over winter, and had the issue everyone else does; completely dead unit that wouldn't take a charge.
I tried the 12v car charger, and sadly, had no luck.
I did some further digging, and discovered that the known issue here appears to be within the brain of the unit preventing charging when the battery voltage falls below a range of ~11.5v. A few people had noted that the positive battery clamp and the USB-A output (not the USB-C that you use for charging) ground were directly tied to the battery and allow you to bypass the brain and force a charge into the battery. I grabbed a multimeter and did some testing, and sure enough; with the positive lead clamped into the red battery clamp, and the negative probe on the 4th pin of the USB output port; I was showing ~3v of power.
I took an old USB-A cable, cut the other end off, and repeated the test, in my case, there were 3 cables in a jacket and 1 not; the cable without the jacket was the ground and showed the same 3v as the pin on the unit. Some USB-A cables will have the ground in a black jacket. I took a 12v trickle charger, set to winter/maintenance low-output mode; and connected the positive lead to the red clamp, and the negative lead to the bare wire on the cut end of the USB cable. I was able to force a trickle charge into the unit; and after ~10 minutes of charging found the unit would power on. This got enough juice into it that I was able to remove the trickle charger and hacked USB cable, and switch back over to the USB-C charger and the device is now taking a charge again. Time will tell if it holds a charge or lasts, but it at least seems to be back to life again.
A few notes; hot-wiring the power like I did bypasses a lot of the brains in the unit and is NOT how you want to fully charge the unit. The brain in this unit does cell balancing between the 4 LiOn cells that you really want for battery health and safety. I would only use this method to get enough charge into the unit to power it on; giving the brain enough power to resume normal charging via the controller. Additionally, depleted LiOn batteries are inherently dangerous. LiOn batteries are known to "fail to flame" and the work above should be done with that caution at the front of your mind. Do it outside or somewhere safe. Have a fire extinguisher or means to put out an electrical fire handy. Dont leave the device rigged the way I've described unattended. Babysit it for the forced charge, and then for the first re-charge to ensure you dont have a disaster on your hands.
I bought one of the X for my daughter to keep in her truck. I appreciate you providing this information. These are supposed to be your backup when you need them.
Thank you very much for putting out this video. When this issue first started, I had a lot of customers swapping out their units with me that I sold and we just all came to the conclusion that the noco product had turned to shite. When I called noco to figure out what was going on, I got absolutely nowhere and became extremely frustrated. I ended up making the decision to quit selling their product, all of their products. Due to the fact that they have not stepped in front of this and don't seem to want to fix it, I don't see putting the noco product on my truck anytime soon. Thank you for your informative videos as I will be sharing your link with my customers who may want me to get them these products and let them be educated on their decision. As always, your videos are awesome.
Thank you sir. Try it and see the results are mixed on it fixing the unit to take a charge.
hello what could you suggest instead of noco?
JNC Battery Box.
@@KoonTrucking charging with 12v worked. Will post a video. 8+ hours is. Nothing. Couple hours 12v worked.
Thanks for the video & info . My GBX 155 wouldnt go past yellow for hours with the usb to usc cable supplied . So i tried a usc to usc cable & it seems to be charging ok . Just thought i would put that out there . Hello from IRELAND ☘️
I own a GBX55 and have used it about 8 times with a recharge after every use. Fortunately it has worked every time I used it. It does take forever to recharge without the 60watt charger. Thanks for the info. I have the GB40 in my wife’s and parents cars and they work great. Noco should step up and make this issue right on the GBX line. Great Video!
Ok. I thought it would this solution was crazy and would never work. BUT. I was having this problem!! I was so frustrated and mad that I thought this device was going to be junk!!
So I charged from the car for 15 minutes and it went past 25% and then I moved to the inside charger and got 100%!!!
You saved it!! Thank you for this video. Wow!!
Excellent information. I bought the GBX 55 6 months ago. I would have got the non x if I seen this video. Thank you
Thank you bro, this was so helpful. Mine wasn’t changing and I did what you said and work perfect, after 10 minutes stared charging. 👍🏾
Where u get the car charger
GREATLY appreciate the knowledge! I was just about to purchase a GBX155. Now I will get the GB150.
Just sent the GBX155 back to amazon. I run a small auto shop and roadside company. The thing was great for about 23 cars and then all of a sudden it just stopped turning on. Ive had 2 gb70's and a GB150, big time money makers ..and that volt meter on the 150 is HUGE a plus... wish they all had a volt meter.. the X series is definitely flawed internally!!!!!
You solved the problem. When you use the battery connect to the cigarette lighter the NOCO goes into rapid charge mode. After 20 minutes the batteries and circuits would use the lower power charging. Thanks for the video. You saved me 350 bucks.
Thanks for the info
Clay they sell a 56 watt rapid charger for the gb line of packs and a 65 watt rapid charger for the gbx line of packs. Claims 5x faster charging times over the included cables. Might be worth looking into to keep the packs above that minimum charge to avoid the issue.
I read all about this before I bought my gbx55 but I figured it might have been due to user error or that noco had it sorted out by then. Well today, my unit stopped taking a charge. Stone cold dead, can’t bring it back. It had 2 bars left when I plugged it in. It has 3 weeks left under warranty. We’ll see how they handle it. No one to blame but myself, I should’ve listened.
One advantage of the GBX is the improved battery clamps, they narrow down to a point to attach easily to smaller batteries..
I covered that in my original video where I compared the GB vs GBX ua-cam.com/video/Bb3aLnRK6gc/v-deo.htmlsi=M3Bxc18Pd8W0lvVz
I had two gb150 that quit charging one warrantied and the last one not. I took it apart and they have a 3 cell lithium battery that’s only 11.1v nominal and barely over 12v fully charged. So I starred looking for another option and found Goodall jump packs. They are more expensive but worth it especially if you jump diesels or things that are completely dead
Have a gb50, had it yrs now. Never had an issue with mine and use it for all kinds of stuff.
I also have gbx55 and you do have to keep battery above a certain voltage.
The cigarette/power port does the trick, connects directly to the battery so you can inject some gogo voltage into gbx battery and get above the nogo voltage.
Wife wanted to go with the GB40, but I went with the GBX45 since it has USB-C over micro-USB. Hope I didn't choose the troublesome series.
So I come across a dell laptop charger with a type C output, and much to my amazement it charged my GBX55 from one light to fully charged in just 20 minutes where it would normally take all day to charge that model with your run of the mill phone charger!
I have two GB40 for each one of my cars for 4 years now. They’ve been good to me and still continue to work. Last year I was dealing with a short in one of my vehicles and was constantly draining my battery and I kid you not I used it every day , several times a day for approximately 30 days! So I’ve definitely used them and they’ve held up great.
Mine also bailed me out 2-3 times a week for over three months due to a battery well past its prime. The GB40 has been awesome to me. I believe it's close to or over 5 years old, and still requires a charge no more than 2x per year, and even then it's barely needed.
How often were you charging it during those 30 days?
Thank you so much for this video! It totally worked charging it in the car. Really appreciate you!
Glad it worked
Maybe the GB series might have the same problem if the internal battery is allowed to go low enough. However, given that the GB series only provides 3 seconds of power, there's only a small risk of it going low enough to become a problem. I have a GB 40 and never ever had a problem charging it. But now I will be careful
I know I’m late, but the GB series does have a charging issue too. I just replaced my wife’s old/new gb70. I said old/new purposely because I bought it to stay in her car for just in case. Because I had to put a brand new battery in her car, and I got the jump starter for emergency, but she never had to use it til recently, but she let it die, and we couldn’t charge it at all.
I want to share something i just notice. I just purchased the GBX 75 and right of the box. I started using a Samsung block 5V to charge the unit. Now I noticed that immediately after I plugged the block, the GBX went into protect mode then I grabbed my iPhone block and it did the same thing. Then I found an old Samsung block between 5v to 9v and so far is charging. I haven’t tried the lighter charger that it came with but I think this unit I’m referring to the GBX 75 need the proper voltage going in to them so it can charge them the proper way. I also saw on Amazon a Noco original 65W wall charger so I will order that one to see if any positive reactions. I’ll keep you guys posted.
This worked for me. Unfortunately the 12v adaptor plugged into the car lighter port, for 15 minutes didn't fix it. Plugging the noco USB cable into a Samsung charging block, allowed it to once again resume charging. Thanks for your comment.
I own 2 -g b70s, and 1-gb150 for 3 years never once had issues with charging, b ought the heavy duty plug in adapter to charge the gb 150 faster, because it takes a lot of time to charge with the one that came with it!! I really like gb series , my cousin bought gbx series, 155, and already sent it back, to noco, junk, had problem from get go!!! Great vidio to educate the public about the issues with gbx series, keep up the great videos !!!!
I know man my old gb70 is at least 5 years old ! My gb150 is at least 3-4 and still going. They are definitely better.
I just purchased the GBX75 after watching one of your videos. I always read the manuals of anything im not familiar with…… not sure if this will help with the issue but the owners manual states to power on the device prior to or during charging or it will drain the unit. I still haven’t used it but will be using it this week to jump an old vehicle.
It’s in the owners manual under charging towards the end of the section.
The unit maybe on at the time your plugging it into your vehicle hence validating these instructions.
When u got yours, were u able to charge it. I put mine “on” before starting to charge it to my laptop, but the lights r not blinking indicating it’s charging
@@rinnemichelle946 Yes it charged.
Although I still haven’t used it yet.
3:25 Yes, the 12v cigarette lighter cord charges the GBX jumper packs MUCH faster than the USB-C. So I could see this helping. I've discharged mine (using it to charge my cell phone) down to one red light and it charged fine with the USB-C. I have the GBX45 and GBX75.
You can easily bypass the BMS (Battery Monitoring System) of the jump pack and put enough of a charge into the batteries to get it to start taking a charge again. Depleting any lithium/Lead acid battery to far will cause this issue of not taking a charge it is a safety function of the device or also known as a dummy mode so house fires don't start.
I purchased a GB40 earlier this year. The first time I used it was great. I've tried to use it 2-3 more times and failed each time. I think I will reach out to Noco to see what they recommend. Thanks Clay for the video.
Sounds like a warranty claim to me before the warranty period ends!
I have the GB 40 and as soon as I use it even just one time then I proceed to charge it fully. In addition to that, I give it a charge once every month even if I have never used it. I think it's a good practice
Experiencing the same issue with the GB40 battery not jump starting a dead car battery. Unfortunately its been a few months since I bought this and havent had to jump start something until now and it doesn’t work. 😢
Once again you saved me a headache! Thanks for the video Clay was torn between the two then 5 minute video later the decision was made clear! Really liked some of the updates like usb-C and better clamps but NOT the major flaw.. Until streamlight goes usb-c I will always have a micro in the truck anyway!
Cheers Pal, you have just answered my issue. John UK.
Glad I saw this second video before purchasing it. I’ll still buy it but I’ll make sure and get the extended 2 year warranty with it. Thanks for the heads up.
I ordered the GB155X, but luckily, I was able to cancel it and ordered the GB150 instead. Thank you for saving me from a future headache!
Good choice!
@@KoonTrucking Where would you recommend buying the GB150 from?
Thank you.
@@thesoulbrother8636 all about the same. I’ve heard that noco doesn’t warranty Amazon but I don’t know that for a fact. They have a 12 month warranty on them.
@@KoonTrucking Thank you for your reply sir. Have a wonderful evening.
Cheers🍸
Just wanted to make a update on a comment I made noco sent me a new one even though it was out of warranty hopefully this one works when I need it
Clay I have looked at the noco but some say it is all that great in the COLD I have the booster pac for about 4 years and does really good in the cold run it down to dam near dead and no problem charging back up thats after last week temps of of -21 BRRR. 🔧🔧🔧🔧
I've got a GBX45 for personal use, and it's never given me any issues. I do have good quality USB-C PD chargers - both in my car and in the house - that are able to give the jump pack the full 60W that it can take in. It can recharge from empty to full in under half an hour.
I'm just the average guy and was looking to buy one because if a car in the driveway doesn't crank over, i can just pull this out and get it going. now I'm leaning towards the GB150. This way, I have no issues if I pull it out and not charging
My biggest beef with these is the damn led light. Twice now, it's been turned on by something pressing on it or hitting it when in the trunk and it's run the battery down. Having trouble getting it to charge up this time and I found your video...using a PD charger so I hope it fixes it. I'm going to 3d print a couple of raised rings over the power and light buttons to hopefully keep it from turning on.
Great point the light turning and draining the power, could be as simple as that. I'm keeping mine in the box a made some small bars from foam to stop it turning on accidentally. Hope this cures the problem
Confirmed that my GBX 55x will only recharge with my USB-c (60w 20v) charger and cable. It will not recharge with the supplied USB-a. I have not tried the cig lighter cable yet but plan to. Thanks for bringing this to my attention as I have been lucky enough to not need the boost. However, it did need a recharge after sitting over a year.
Had the same issue I have GB 150 never had issue great box. I recommended GBX to my work mates now one has already needed sent back for not charging. Thanks for video info Clay have Happy Blessed New Year
I have the GB 40 and as soon as I use it even just one time then I proceed to charge it fully. In addition to that, I give it a charge once every month even if I have never used it. I think it's a good practice to do so in order to keep the charger always ready and avoid it's internal battery going too low because self discharge is normal. Another advice: I avoid storing my GB 40 inside my car all the time because where I live temperature goes high up to 52 degrees Celsius inside the car. Yes I have put a thermometer 🌡️ inside of my car and in springtime and during summer the temperature inside my car can go as high as that. So put a thermometer with maximum and minimum detection inside your car the whole year place it under the shadow inside your car so the sun doesn't hit the thermometer. Watch the maximum temperature. Noco warns never to allow the starter to go as hot as 40 degrees Celsius
That just defeats the purpose of this jump starter. You’re better off getting a pair of jumper cables and ask for someone nearby to help jumpstart.
@@tiberianexcalibur I disagree. I always bring my NOCO when I'm going long distance drive or going on vacation. Also I keep an eye on my battery and if I notice it is going low then I do something about it
@@carlosw1687 so you only get it for vacation purposes and probably keep it at home 95-99% of the time? Sorry I don’t know what your usual year round schedule is.
The GB series have issues also. The on/off switch fails as well as the flashlight switch. Apparently they are using inferior materials in the construction of these things. I just ordered some surface mounted device switches and gonna try and fix mine. Thanks for the info.
Thank you so much for making this video. My GBX fell below half charge and now will not recharge. I’m going to try the battery adapter option. Thanks
Thank you I have a gb150 and gave 3 gb45s for Christmas gifts this year.
Lucky I found your video. I was about to buy the gbx55. Thanks.
me too, just cancel my order
Appreciate you calling out the bs clay
I just purchased a 65w USB C charger off Amazon for £18.99 it took my GBX45 from one red LED one the charging LED's to fully charged (Solid Green LED) in 45 mins, cant moan about that !
I also tried a few other chargers, a cheap basic phone charger, an Apple phone charger and the Noco USB C cable that was supplied with the booster, plugged straight into our Apple desktop keyboard, all 3 started charging the GBX45 straight away, but it was only the 65w charger off Amazon that lit up the fast charge LED on the booster. So for me everything works as it should.
Well, well, well. I just opened my new box and started watching videos on how to use it. Now, I guess I bought the wrong one.Mine says GBboost XL. I did hook it up to a charger and it seemed to be charging but also came fully charged. Won't know where I am at until it needs recharging. Man, thought this was the best. By the time I find out I will be out of warranty.🦇
Bought my GBX155, my first NOCO product to ever own due to a trusted coworker’s recommendation. His charges fine…mine has this charging problem. If I keep unplugging and re-plugging it in once daily…eventually it will take a charge. Sometimes it takes 2 days…sometimes a week.
That sucks I would send it in for warranty. You shouldn’t have to do that. My GB150 has been great. I have an old GB70 that’s at least 5 years old and it’s worked like a champ and still going … surprisingly
Gb70 excepted a charge with the 12v adapter for the cigarette lighter. Thank you for the video buddy
No problem 👍
Wow!! Thanks so much for the recommendation and making us aware of this issue. This is actually real crummy news. Was going to order the gbx155 later this week. Def gonna hold off.
get the gb series and you won't have issues.
@@KoonTrucking appreciate the advice and reply very much!!
I have both gb and gbx! And I haven’t had a problem with my jumpers. What I have seen is my number of jumps aren’t accurate anymore. Not a big deal. I’ve used the gbx to jump start stone cold dead isx15, dd15, mx13 … I’ve had to use both at one point also … i love my nocos I stand by them regardless
Even if one day they fail or go bad I’d buy more with no hesitation I’m actually looking into buying the gb252 since the gb500 is out of my budget I have used the gb 500 and let me tell you that is one bad mamajama !!!
Not one to comment but I just bought a GBX75 after the heavy blue point died. Well, I’ve tried from Thursday to now Sunday to charge this thing up and still nothing! When I say it was brand new, I peeled the plastic off of it. I’m a bit disappointed.
I was very happy to see this video with the hack for the cigarette “hack” but after 3 times, it still hasn’t worked for me. I’m giving it one more go then I’m ready to blow it up! I needed to move a couple cars this weekend but guess that’s not happening.
Supposedly 15 mins in the cigarette lighter plug will get it going enough for the regular charger to take a charge
@@KoonTrucking Tried the cigarette hack again this morning. I left it plugged up to a car on a battery charger. It was plugged in for at least 30 mins. Still nothing. This thing is going back.
Just a follow up…I bought another while I was messing with this one. It came in, looked exactly the same, packaging wise. As soon as I plugged it up, it started charging. This is how it’s supposed to work. Guess I just got a dud? Either way, I’ll be keeping an eye on the battery level.
And this is why we don’t sell the GBX anymore just the GB.
Me and Matt also asked the noco guys at sema and they played dumb…
Good move on putting the light on it clay 💪
The reason I have a GBX155 is my GB150 quit taking a charge so this is nit a new problem
Man, this is such an easy fix for these... I bought a GBX55 with a "dead battery" and no power at all even though I had a 65-watt charger. I fixed mine in like 10 mins by taking the unit apart (you will need a special screwdriver to get the unit apart.), I alligator clipped my bench power supply to it on 10v at low amps like 1 or 2 for like 5 mins to get the volts up on the battery (unclipped the bench supply) and then I plugged in the fast charger and it started to charge normally I left it for about 2 hours and it was finished. This is caused by what I can see might be a BMS issue, it lets the battery drop too far down in volts before cutting off to save the battery from going under 9v. I tested mine the next day by chance I left my lights on and it worked flawlessly. these units are tough you just have to know how to test them to see if they can be recovered. I will be looking to buy more of the GBX units to test this on. I really like them!
Noco should fix the issue especially since they know it is a problem but they continue to ignore the problem, that's the bad part.
@@KoonTrucking I know but I would personally rather keep stuff out of landfills if I can manage! Just doing my part!
@@RainbowDashie Yep, me too. Lots of equipment I depend on everyday was on its way to a landfill (and in some cases pulled back out!)
To augment what you said, for anyone watching here...
I just ran into this on a GBX45. No lights, no response to any button. Using a USB-C 20V PD capable 'fast' charger, my in-line USB-C meter showed 5V, meaning no power delivery negotiation, and no current flowing into it.
I opened the case slightly to where I could access the negative battery cable that goes directly to the battery.
I connected my bench power supply to that internal negative cable, and the regular positive output that would normally go to the clamps. I took it really slow and charged at 100ma up to 9 volts, initially targeting 3V per cell, on assumption it was a 3s pack. It turned out to be 4s, so that's actually 2.25V per cell, but that was enough!
I closed it back together and the power button lit up the power gauge. At this point I switched to USB-C charging. I wanted to switch over to charging through the BMS as soon as possible. It knows its own limits and monitors cell balance.
Lithium chemistry batteries can be safely revived from 0V, but from everything I've read, the starting charge current should be kept low until ~2V per cell, then you can up the current.
@@colindgrant THANK YOU!
My GBX55 just died. Bought it in November 2022, so not that old. Worked very well starting several vehicles. Recharged it once. Went to boost a flat dead battery in a lawn tractor yesterday, it worked fine, and now it wouldn't work at all today. I searched for the four flashes of the red light during charging, found this, and just now started charging my pack. I'm at 70mA, but it climbed to 8.8 in only a few minutes. It started at 5.4V.
I think this will work quite well and I appreciate your comment!
Those triangle screws were TighT!. There are 6 of them, hidden under the rubber bumpers on the back. Peel it open slowly until you see the black wire very near the big red wire on the outside. One big black, one small. There's a yellow wire right near all of them. Both black ones go to the same point, so poke through the small insulation to make contact. It's only 100mA, so a T pin will work.
I appreciate your efforts to keep stuff out of the landfill, as well as save me from having to mess with the warranty.
@@jimplatt5815 Nice! Glad it was helpful. I actually posted a video of the process on my channel too.
Thanks Clay I have Gbx 75 up here in New Hampshire use it all the time going to keep eye on it 👍
I have the start all jump pack for my 579. Thing is a beast 10,000 amps. Used it 3 times still at 100 percent.
Thank you very much! It works!
Wow just watched one of your previous vids, maybe I'll think twice about buying the new X series. Thanks for this update
The trouble with any of these lithium boxes is in extreme cold like we get in Saskatchewan they tend to fall on their face.
I purchased a GBX45 for just the zero turn and motorcycles back in December. Took out of box and charged inside the house with the supplied usbc cable and an iPhone dewalt charge block. Took a long time to charge it. Used it today for the first time. Toro zero turn and it drained the 45. I did have to crank the mower for around 15-20 second before it started but I never expected it to drain the jump pack. I consider it junk. It’s been on charge for around 8 hours now and only blinking on the third light. Not sure it’s worth the power consumption to charge it.
Junk
I have a gbx something. I use mine a lot, however mine would not charge one day. After talking to my snap-on guy for a bit, Found out that noco makes a wall wart charger, and that actually lets it charges back to full. Why did noco not put this in their instructions or website?
They have everyones money and dont give two shits about the consumer or else they would have told you a fix for the jump box.
Happy New Year Clay !
I have that no-recharge issue with my GB40 - it's 3 years old so hope your fix will work for it since I don't have a warranty
Even when it's charges it didn't have the guts to jump in fridgeed cold a jnc 770 works best in cold month's of Colorado just have to look before you hook it up the nice thing about the Norco is that can hook it backwards and not hurt anything hope they come out bigger heaver pack I consider one
I have always charged my GB70 with the cig cord, it also has a female to plug in other items like my cig powered air compressor. That said it's now ten years old and won't quite top up now
thanks for the video! the jump box works great but i have had nothing but trouble charging my GBX75. Going to try this method
😀👍🏿Great Tips,Good Stuff
Here's my experience between gb and gbx series. The gbx will not charge with your puny 3 amp phone wall charger usb jack. The litterature states you need a 60 watt usb wall outlet ! The gbx charges well on mostly automotive systems that are running at 13 or 14 volts with a good alternator. The main problem with ALL nonco boosters is that if you let it go too discharged below a certain level , they will never recharge again . Sometimes you can bring them back thru cigarette lighter charging. Also that usb charger port is fairly weak and wears out fast. Keep them charged regularly and dont run them till empty
You would think with something so expensive they would put a battery discharge limiter on it..
Thanks for the video man. I’m not sure which one I have but I’ll be checking in the morning. Thanks.
Good video. My noco purchases are on hold now. Will continue to use the older style jump boxes.
The GB series is still great
@@KoonTrucking will still wait until gbx problems are solved
Wish you would have made this before i bought the GBX. I am on my 3rd one. 1st was an open box buy on Amazon. No go. I wasn't thinking it would. 2nd brand new out of the box would not charge. 3rd brand new out of the box...so far so good.
I don’t know if it is a quality control thing with Noco or what but my older GB70 is still going and it’s at least 5-6 years old. Guess they made a big splash and people knew they were good then started slipping but the GBX is a big let down on the recharge issue. Guess you can use it and charge it after each use or leave it on charge when you aren’t using it but that’s a pain. I leave mine in my truck for “when I need it”
I've never jumped to the gbx line strictly because they took away the voltage meter on the 150's.
I honestly think the problem is user error a lot of the time people hook them up backwards, or in the wrong order, or they get it wet, or they have them both connected and they knocked the red off, and then just reattach the Red without removing the black first. Stuff like that. Or they remove them in the wrong order. It's easy to mess up one of these steps.
Haha, good one.
I'm glad I got the 12V charger for mine... so far not needed to boost. I also picked up a 65W wall charger, I wonder if it needs a high wattage to reset the battery to get it going?
Mine also has USB-C charge port not a micro USB, which may be a fix to the issue.
I have two gb70 2000a.
These are my third and fourth. In a less then a year.
The first two where fully charge but wouldn’t boost. I would plug it into the vehicle but not sure the time. Then would plug into usb. Then they would have zero out put through the jumper cables but be fully charged. Both did this at about 3 months.
My newest one about two months and on its fourth charge. At two bars with usb. Got pulled down to one bar. From full on a vehicle with a dead or shot battery. It’s been charging about eight hours and is still on one bar. I have a 120v to 12v converter will try that in the morning if it’s stuck at one bar still. I bought this one from my battery wholesaler will be bring a battery in so will talk to them if it doesn’t take a charge.
I like the units but they got some problems which is why I never go above to gb70 don’t feel they are worth it. I can start almost anything with two gb70s hooked up.
I have idea that I would like to make if one of these units craps out. Not sure if I can do it but if so would make these units way better.
Good info, thanks. I have a GB150 and a GBX75. I have (however) never allowed both of these boxes to go below a 50% charge state but good to know though. - N Idaho -
Which box do you recomend?
@@finnsnracks2085 it’s tough to say. The GB150 is quite large and heavy and I don’t prefer it’s in/out charging ports with USB std/micro. No USB-C.
If I were to have just one box I’d recommend the GBX75 cause it’s smaller and lightweight. I just don’t like that it doesn’t have 12V jack for power out, only std USB/C.
@@finnsnracks2085I edited my comment to ya. Sorry for the original “red-herring “.
My gbx155 just started not taking the charge
I just bought (2) GPX 55's. One for me and one for my boss. One of units would only charge using an high output charger and the other one would charge with any USB-C charger.
After watching this video, I'm going to return the GPX's and get the GP series.
I've used Clore JNC 660s for many years after using one at the used car lot where I wrenched. Clores warranty support is outstanding and they sell parts. My oldest was from 2016 and I'd still have it if I'd not forgot to bring it back from a salvage yard run.
Yep!
So glad I got the gb series.... whew I bought the gb70 on black Friday at mills fleet farm for 120$
My GBX45 just did this the other day. Bought it a year and a week ago. Emailed them Tuesday, still haven't heard back. DAMN this is frustrating
excellent toolbox
During this extreme cold snap we just had, I went to use my Banditt jump box I bought from Amazon a few years ago. The damn thing swelled up and split the case! I only used this jump box once before and charged it once every six months. Of course, Amazon no longer sells this p.o.s. brand. I spent quite a bit of time reviewing jump boxes. A good, reliable, and unbiased source that tested many of these jump boxes is the guy on UA-cam who goes by the name of Project Farm. This guy is the go to guy when it comes to testing all kinds of stuff on the market. He does not get paid by any manufacturer. Anyhow, his test results and every other test result shows the NOCO GB40 is the best jump box for the money. NOCO came out on top of every size jump box that is sold. I looked at a GBX 45 over the GB40 because it had a little more power. I did not know what the difference between the GB and GBX was until I saw your video. I decided to buy the GB40 because it had almost a perfect rating with over 90,000 reviews on Amazon. Now, I am glad I did. The last thing I need is another faulty jump box when I am in dire need of using one.
Ran into the same issue on the GB box.
Thank you for 12 volt charger hack on gbx wokked great
Great 👍
My matco rep stopped selling the gbx models for this reason.
I have a GB 70 and I am having a issue with it going beyond 70 % on the household outlet. I am plugging in the car to see if it works
I'm sure you've herd of/used JNC jump boxes. they are a lot bigger but brother they last!
The jnc boxes are my daily go to in a shop environment. I have some nocos for emergency use in my vehicles, I feel that's we're they are better suited.
Those are alright, I live by and stand by noco no matter what! I used inc before they are way to heavy to dumpster semi trucks and most of the time they don't even start a isx 15 now my nocos gb155 does start them
Thanks for the info on the jump pack!!!! I’m hoping you’ll be having a great New Year evening and I’ll be looking forward to seeing your amazing content next year!!!!!
Get a 2 wire USBC AND HOOK IT TO a trickle charger clamps charge for about 20 to 30 mins disconnect and plug in the Noco charger cable and it should charge that’s how I changed it and had five people I know have the same problem they did what I did and all 5 charged
I own the same jump box on this video, I bought a charging cable that charges the jump box much faster then the stock charging cable. So far I've not had any charging issues, but I also try to avoid letting my jump box get too low on power too! I have two of these so far. Only thing I don't like, which was mentioned. is these won't charge a very low dead battery worth a hill of beans! Fortunately most the time batteries are completely dead that often when I need to jump one! I haven't tried any other brands yet to compare these too, maybe there's a better brand out there somewhere?
The problem is mostly the USB-A to USB-C cable supplied in the box which suggests a typical USB-C plug pack is enough, and often it is not! The traditional USB-A is only 5volts, but USB-C can be 20 volts.
When charge is low, you need a higher power, preferably at least 60W and 20v, USB-C power source. The cigarette lighter cord provides a USB-C cord rated at 65W which makes it better but it may not provide 20v in which case still not perfect.
Glad I just bought one via Snap-on rep. Thanks for the advice! Happy New Year to ya.
Happy new year!
I have had one for a year and have used it once and the thing will not take a charge and it is the GBX45. Thanks for sharing
Thanks I will avoid Noco! Not because of the problem but how they are NOT handling it.
I personally like my startall 10,000 an 5000 boxes. Only thing that sucks about those are the $$$ but their a tank. An work like a badass.
got the same problem on my new 155 going to try it
I bought mine off Amazon a year or so and it did not come with the cigarette lighter adapter. Guess I need to go buy one and hope to heck it works
my gb150 miraculously stopped taking charge one day. Im a bit upset about potentially wasting $350