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I have been looking at various high end sharpening/stroping systems. This is the perfect solution. I see no difference other than cost to the crazy expensive similar power sharpening systems. I made my own gouge contour discs and put it on a reversible, variable speed 1/2 inch drill clamped workbench . Perfect. Going to order the turntable from Amazon today.
Hi Bill, Thanks for sharing your contour disc approach! I have had good results using a tool rest with this system to re-profile the bevel on some carving gouges.
Hi Shaun! I'm happy to hear that. So often we have resources here in the States that others don't have access too. Then again, you have some nice things in the UK that we don't have.
I love this. I love the DIY and repurposing of things when done safely. And I really love how quiet it is. I have a leather wheel for my drill but will most likely switch to this.
This is a great idea.I had an old busted orbital sander with a 125 mm disk which I put on the 100mm pad with 2 sided tape. I also had 125mm wet and dry sand paper I bought from ALIexpress which comes in all grades up to 10,000 grit.When it gets full of material from the tools just wash it out and use again Great system
Great episode. Very informative. You certainly did your homework. Well presented. Hope you and yours are well and stay that way. Thanks for sharing, cousin Jack.
Maybe I’ve been spoiled by better systems but I bought one and tried and I stop the wheel everytime I put the slightest amount of pressure -quite weak but the kids now have a small pottery wheel lol
Hi Doug! I'll have a follow up video (just got power back after the hurricane) and explain that the speed of honing/sharpening is relative to the amount of pressure and how much juice you give to the motor.
Hmmm that makes sense to me. The other day I started thinking, “why would a pottery wheel need to turn in both directions. Turns out that hand dominance is one reason and Western cultures favor spinning counterclockwise while Eastern cultures prefer the wheel spinning clockwise.
I purchased all the items you mentioned and while the machine does slow (bog) down when I first started using it, I found a LIGHT bit of pressure worked absolutely GREAT! I was able to take the second bevel off one of my Flexcut knives in mere minutes, then proceeded to the next grits. Many thanks
I appreciate you sharing your experience with the sharpening system. I’ve recently learned that the manufacturer has switched to a different motor and I’m glad it’s working out for you!
Excellent creative content. Puts the other "expert" channels to shame as hustlers for product placement money. The slow speed and light pressure is critical for not burning thin edges. Heavy pressure is only needed for grinding bar stock, not honing. An interesting option for metal grinding machines is my use of a wood belt sander fitted with metal grinding belts. With a medium fine and medium coarse belts I fashioned a 6' dagger blade with full tang with pommel and large curved guard. For fun I fashioned an epoxy fiber sheath with micro friction fit as with traditional Japanese katana and wakizashi. Added a snap clip to wear. As with this excellent creative content maker, putting your mind out of the Box results in spectacular results.
@@MakerBoyOldBoy Thanks Gary! Yes, a light touch works pretty well. I just tuned up 2 carving gouges and reset the bevel on both of them using this machine and the 3M Cubitron abrasive. Works like a charm.
Thankyou Jack, this is a very well thought out idea. I have trouble with stropping by hand and have been thinking of alternatives. This is a nice handy system that just may work for me. I like that it’s quiet too. Appreciate the video and thanks for your hard work.
Those diamond disks you list are AMAZING. Even though the disks are rated to 22,000 RPM, the low speed will keep from burning blade edges. I got the mini wheel as well, and it looks like it will work effectively. Whoever packed it was wearing heavy perfume, however 😅😅. Vevor was a new brand for me, but I'm seeing all sorts of small machines from them now.
Hi Mark! Wow! That person must have really gone overboard with the perfume! I’m happy to hear that the diamond discs are effective for you. Thanks for sharing your observations and happy sharpening!
Thank you for this. I hope you & yours are well & have minimal hurricane issues. I'm 69 & 43 mi north of Florida, Helene was the worst storm I've seen. Looks like Milton wasn't as bad as it could've been. Wishing you the best.
Very cool. Think I'll be making one. But I think I'll make a 5 inch mdf disc and glue it on the table then attach Velcro. Then I can just use standard sanding pads without having to cut them and it'll be much faster to change out pads. Even glue on Velcro to a 5 inch leather disc.
Sounds like a plan. I considered Velcro but decided not to use it because I was concerned about the spongy part of the Velcro being too soft and I wanted a herd flat surface. Let me know how it works out.👍
Hey Cousin Jack! Hope all is well with you and your family. This system looks fantastic. I have been hesitant to hone with power, and the sound level you demonstrated is definitely a positive feature! Nothing more satisfying than using something designed to use one way...for an entirely other purpose! Thanks for the content!
Thank you for a really helpful video. I am enjoying this system a great deal. I simply glue inexpensive wet-dry sandpaper to old CD's (simple to cut to fit CD - I use API Crafter's Pick Ultimate glue; less than 6 dollars at craft store), and I use inexpensive ultrathin double-sided woodworking tape to the side that attaches to the potter's wheel (5 dollars from Amazon - much less expensive than spray adhesive and works great). I also bought some inexpensive scrap leather from a local hobby store and cut it to size, glued it to a CD and loaded with compound for honing. That also works very well. I enjoy making knives using the technique that Kevin Coates shared - I have found the part of the filet knife blade I cut off can be easily shaped to a make a carving whittling/knife of various shapes and sizes. It is also fun to shape the handles to my exact needs. Bottom line is I end up with a couple of wood carving tools for about $10 each that are fun to make, seem to work as well as any I have purchased from a professional maker, and are easy to keep razor sharp using this simple system you suggested! (I must admit that about 90% of the time, a simple homemade leather strop loaded with diamond paste keeps the tools razor sharp.)
Kevin has proved that making your own knives can work out just fine. Thanks for sharing the ideas about the tape, the glue, and the CDs. I'm sure others here can benefit from your example!
Thank you for sharing. I had no idea there was a spray adhesive that you could spray on and restick. Great info and thanks for sharing what you used as far as discs. Do you have any issues honing or sharpening longer blades. Like filet knives or hunting knives?
Hi Bryan! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I generally use this system for my woodcarving tools. I’ve never tried using it to sharpen any knives with a long blade.
I use it just for honing gouges as the torque is not powerful enough, I can stop the motor, knives I do on a standard strop. I also use acrylic discs but hold them on with velcro or hook and loop discs. Was also looking at a more powerful potters wheel, 350w, and has a 10" wheel but this retails at £130 approx which is 4 times the cost. The inside of the gouge I stick leather to different size dowels to match the gouge, these are 12" long approximately so you can get a long pull on the gouge, thanks for all you are doing
I was tempted to buy one last year and try exactly what you tried,but was put off by the negative reviews about the torque. Gonna definitely get one and try it now after watching this..thanks Jack
Hello Clive! Just to clarify - the low end torque is weak, the speed of your honing/sharpening will be dependent upon the amount of pressure you apply and the amount of juice you give to the motor.
This is a great idea. I've been working on something similar, using a windscreen wiper motor and plywood discs, but having the variable speed is a big improvement. It's interesting how you've come up with different solutions to what i have been doing. I will definitely get one of these and give it a go. Thanks for sharing 👍
@@WoodCarvingWeekly I am in the UK so what I get may be slightly different. The reviews were very favourable with only the small size being mentioned as a negative, nothing about problems with motor power etc.
@@caskwith Yes, I understand that there can be significant differences regarding the availability of products here in the states and what you have access to in the UK. In either case, I hope this information will be helpful for you my friend.
@@WoodCarvingWeekly Mine has arrived. As others have posited it does indeed have a brushed motor which lacks torque at slow speeds. I think however for my purposes it will still work ok.
This is genius. I have converted a variable speed lathe and have other ways to do this, but they are all much more expensive. I am going to try to resist getting one of the pottery wheels.
I've just received one of these potters wheels and must say that the motor bogs down quite quickly under load. I really think a stronger motor is needed for anything more than just a quick rehone on the leather. But the principle is good 👍
Hi Rob. I'll be posting a follow up video just to clarify - the low end torque is weak, the speed of your honing/sharpening will be dependent upon the amount of pressure you apply and the amount of juice you give to the motor. Thanks for sharing your observations!
Love all your videos and as a fairly new carver, I have learned a lot from you. Do you think the motor with brushes would have more torque than the brushless motor?
Thanks for your comment, I’m happy to hear that you’re enjoying the channel! Here’s what I was able to find. Brushless motors generally have a higher torque density compared to brushed motors, meaning they can deliver more torque for a given size and weight[1][2][4]. This is due to the brushless design, which allows for finer control and better efficiency, enabling them to handle higher torque loads by adjusting power accordingly[2]. While brushed motors can provide high stall torque and smooth torque at low speeds, brushless motors are typically more efficient and capable of higher overall torque output in most applications[1][2]. Sources [1] Brushed or Brushless: Choosing the Right Motor for the Application www.kollmorgen.com/en-us/blogs/brushed-or-brushless-choosing-the-right-motor-for-the-application [2] What's the Difference Between Brushed and Brushless Motors? ibtinc.com/difference-between-brushed-brushless-motors/ [3] Brushless motors and torque? - R/C Tech Forums www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road/373983-brushless-motors-torque.html [4] Brush vs. Brushless | Foredom Electric Company www.foredom.net/2024/05/brush-vs-brushless/ [5] What's the difference between a brushed and brushless motor, and ... www.reddit.com/r/Tools/comments/152n1wy/whats_the_difference_between_a_brushed_and/ [6] Brushless torque? - All things electric... - Tamiyaclub.com www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php [7] Brushless Vs Brushed DC Motors: When and Why to Choose One ... www.monolithicpower.com/en/learning/resources/brushless-vs-brushed-dc-motors
Thanks for your question. This channel provides information about woodcarving and related topics. If I was going to sharpen a kitchen knife I would probably use a larger sized pottery wheel to do that.
Thanks for sharing your idea. Have you considered using Velcro on the wheel? Then you could just use sanding discs for orbital sanders without having to mess with adhesives
Thanks for your question! Yes, I considered Velcro and I was concerned about the somewhat spongy nature of it because I wanted a very flat and stable surface.
Very good video Cousin Jack! That's very informative. What kind of rpm are you turning for honing? I have a variable speed lathe that's reversible. You got me thinking that I might be able to create a setup for honing my knives with those disks and wheels you mention in the video. Or maybe there's some kind of product that's already designed to fit on a lathe?
Hi Cousin Stephen! When I hone on the leather or the felt wheel I probably have it spinning around 100 to 200 RPM. When I use the cotton buffing wheel I turn it up to max speed. If you find something similar for a lathe let me know, I'm not aware of anything like this.
Got mine and made a stropping wheel. I agree with the comments about torque. You really can't strop at slow speeds. To strop, I put my knife on the leather wheel, then gradually increase the speed while maintaining pressure. The pressure keeps the wheel from spinning too fast and I get a good strop. When I take the knife off the wheel, the rpm's go way up. I have to slow the wheel down and start over to strop again. But it does do a good job of stropping if you tinker with it. I think it's a keeper but time will tell.
Love your comment! You've described the exact method that I use when I'm honing. My only exception is when I turn the machine on it's side and use the cotton buffing wheel - for that I turn the motor up to full speed. Thanks for sharing your experience with it.
@@WoodCarvingWeekly I have a drill hooked up to a variable speed unit that I use for buffing with an unsewn buffing wheel. Works great for knives and gouges/v tools. However, I did order a 6 inch felt wheel and I'm going to use that on my drill setup, not so much for carving knives but for regular knives. My drill setup has a mount that can be used to switch from horizonal to vertical. Been using this setup for many years. There is just enough clearance that I can use a 6 inch wheel.
This is a great idea! Thanks for sharing it. I have a couple Tomz sharpeners that I often use but this is a better deal. Cheaper and it has variable speed. You can also buy full sheets of sandpaper, glue them to the disks and trim. This will allow you to use really fine paper such as 1000 grit on up. Just ordered mine. A link to the Loctite woud be appreciated as well as more specifics on the acrylic disks. Are the ones you bought 0.080 in thickness?
Thanks very much for your comment! Yes, I have some fine grit sandpaper that I use as well. The acrylic discs I bought are about 1/8th" inch (3mm) thickness) but I believe they're out of stock right now. There are lots of others available, most important to me is the 4" diameter measurement. I'll see if I can find a link for the Loctite spray and add it as well.
Hi Michal! There's always that risk. This machine does allow you to control the speed. Heating up the metal is also dependent upon the type of abrasive that you're using. Thanks for your question!
I use the adhesive to secure the acrylic disc to the turntable and the turntable is secured by a set screw. I know some viewers have mentioned using Velcro or magnets. I suppose a more permanent solution would be removing the turntable and using some other universal hub attached to the shaft.
Might be worth adding a simple bent plate bracket (using the same attachment points as the rubber feet) so you can secure the machine to your worktable with a clamp when you're using it on it's side.
Good idea. The way brushless motors work there will not be a mechanism to reverse the rotation just a switch to change the connections from the motor controller to the motor. If the platter runs one way only check the switch and the cabling.
@@WoodCarvingWeekly If you want the platter to revolve more slowly use a 6V power supply. I'm not certain how low a voltage can be applied and have it still work but an old USB power pack, or even a couple of AA batteries in series, might do.
How do you true a hard felt wheel? If you use a split rock-hard felt wheel and a high-intensity lamp with the blade edge under the wheel you can see the progress as you strop. Check out Ken Parker Archtoppery video "Ken Parker Archtoppery - Edge Tools - Sharpening Review - Chapter 4 of 4: Stropping with Buddy"
Hi Mark! Thanks very much for sharing the information about Ken Parker. He's like a mad scientist the way he did the calculations in his head! To true up my felt wheel I mounted it onto my buffing machine and used sandpaper to alter the shape and make it round. Warning: This can be a messy process with bits of wool coming off the felt wheel.
Sir, nothing against this idea or your presentation, but you are misunderstanding the concept of torque. It has very little to do with the amount of weight on the wheel, but rather how much turning force the wheel has. Axial load is irrelevant to torque.
If it will spin 13 lbs easy, then it requires torque to start the axial load and if it’s spinning 13 lbs easily, torque will not be an issue. In my opinion.
That looks like a great tool but. Hand sharpening with a couple of diamond plates, stones, or abrasive paper is so easy cheap ,and not really time consuming. Why would you go to all the cost . Maybe you save a few minutes. Why do we think we need a power tool for every imaginable purpose...ie electric tooth brush or nail buffer.??¿?😂
I hear you my friend. I still enjoy using my sharpening stones and stropping tools by hand. This was sort of an experiment and yes, it does save time when I have a batch of tools that need to be tuned up. Thanks for your comment.
I just received this item and unfortunately, I'm very disappointed. Even the slightest bit of pressure on the wheel completely stops it. There is virtually zero torque on this item. It is absolutely impossible to use. I understand the manufacturer has changed specifications but as of October 28, 2024 I would urge everyone to stay away from this product.
Unlock the potential of your woodworking tools with our latest video: "Build a Cheap DIY Power Sharpening System! This week, we'll guide you through creating a budget-friendly sharpening system, perfect for honing and sharpening your tools to a razor-edge. This is an Ideal resource for both seasoned woodcarvers and those new to the craft, our step-by-step guide provides everything you need to know.
Follow Up Clarification: When load testing I did need to increase the power/speed of the turntable. The speed of honing/sharpening is relative to the amount of pressure and how much juice you give to the motor.
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wouldn't veco be a better op.? thanks for the idea.
This is an example of the wonderful side of the Internet! Thank you so much for sharing.
My pleasure, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I have been looking at various high end sharpening/stroping systems. This is the perfect solution.
I see no difference other than cost to the crazy expensive similar power sharpening systems.
I made my own gouge contour discs and put it on a reversible, variable speed 1/2 inch drill clamped workbench .
Perfect. Going to order the turntable from Amazon today.
Hi Bill, Thanks for sharing your contour disc approach! I have had good results using a tool rest with this system to re-profile the bevel on some carving gouges.
I love low cost solutions! Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure Ryan, thanks for your comment!
This is thinking outside the box in its finest form. 👍😎👍
Thanks very much, my curiosity took over and then I engaged my imagination.👍
@@WoodCarvingWeekly WELL DONE!!!
Thanks!
Zona papers. A good addition to this setup.
Thanks for the recommendation Jack! I had to google it because I was not familiar with the Zona brand.
That's really cool. It also don't look hard to make a rest for it that can adjust angles for when you are sharpening with it on its side.
I agree, I've been thinking about some ideas for a tool rest. This really is pretty simple to make and to use, I keep mine right next to my recliner.
@WoodCarvingWeekly I'm a machinest so if you can make a print I can give you my email and make one for you
@@Gillespie91 That’s very generous, thanks for offering. I have a tool rest, I just need to figure how I want to mount it.
Genius idea, be safe and thanks for sharing.
Thanks very much we're all safe and sound.
Absolutely brilliant idea and one I can replicate in the UK. Thank you so much for sharing. Shaun Chorley Lancashire UK
Hi Shaun! I'm happy to hear that. So often we have resources here in the States that others don't have access too. Then again, you have some nice things in the UK that we don't have.
I love this. I love the DIY and repurposing of things when done safely. And I really love how quiet it is. I have a leather wheel for my drill but will most likely switch to this.
Hi Felipe! I'm happy to hear that the video was helpful for you!
This is a great idea.I had an old busted orbital sander with a 125 mm disk which I put on the 100mm pad with 2 sided tape. I also had 125mm wet and dry sand paper I bought from ALIexpress which comes in all grades up to 10,000 grit.When it gets full of material from the tools just wash it out and use again Great system
Hi Dave,
Thanks for sharing your experience with the orbital sander. I never tried washing my wet/dry sand paper. Thanks for the tip!
Great episode. Very informative. You certainly did your homework. Well presented. Hope you and yours are well and stay that way. Thanks for sharing, cousin Jack.
Thanks Cousin Don! We were very fortunate - No damage.
Supreme. The buffing wheel trick is awesome 🤘🏼
Thanks Steven! I do like the buffing wheel, especially for honing gouges and V-Tools.
Slick idea! -i have a tomz knife massager also but i like the speed of this
Maybe I’ve been spoiled by better systems but I bought one and tried and I stop the wheel everytime I put the slightest amount of pressure -quite weak but the kids now have a small pottery wheel lol
@@dougLinker The thing I like about my tomz knife massager is the slow speed you will have a hard time over heating a tool.
Hi Doug! I'll have a follow up video (just got power back after the hurricane) and explain that the speed of honing/sharpening is relative to the amount of pressure and how much juice you give to the motor.
@@WoodCarvingWeeklyI went full speed but I’m thinking now a powder abrasive would not be as sticky as a fresh coat of compound
Hmmm that makes sense to me. The other day I started thinking, “why would a pottery wheel need to turn in both directions. Turns out that hand dominance is one reason and Western cultures favor spinning counterclockwise while Eastern cultures prefer the wheel spinning clockwise.
You are a freaking genius !!!!
LOL! Thanks Ron!
What a great idea! I'm sold!
Thanks very much Amy!
I purchased all the items you mentioned and while the machine does slow (bog) down when I first started using it, I found a LIGHT bit of pressure worked absolutely GREAT! I was able to take the second bevel off one of my Flexcut knives in mere minutes, then proceeded to the next grits.
Many thanks
I appreciate you sharing your experience with the sharpening system. I’ve recently learned that the manufacturer has switched to a different motor and I’m glad it’s working out for you!
Excellent creative content. Puts the other "expert" channels to shame as hustlers for product placement money. The slow speed and light pressure is critical for not burning thin edges. Heavy pressure is only needed for grinding bar stock, not honing. An interesting option for metal grinding machines is my use of a wood belt sander fitted with metal grinding belts. With a medium fine and medium coarse belts I fashioned a 6' dagger blade with full tang with pommel and large curved guard. For fun I fashioned an epoxy fiber sheath with micro friction fit as with traditional Japanese katana and wakizashi. Added a snap clip to wear. As with this excellent creative content maker, putting your mind out of the Box results in spectacular results.
@@MakerBoyOldBoy Thanks Gary! Yes, a light touch works pretty well. I just tuned up 2 carving gouges and reset the bevel on both of them using this machine and the 3M Cubitron abrasive. Works like a charm.
@@MakerBoyOldBoy Wow! That epoxy fiber sheath sounds very cool!
Thankyou Jack, this is a very well thought out idea. I have trouble with stropping by hand and have been thinking of alternatives. This is a nice handy system that just may work for me. I like that it’s quiet too. Appreciate the video and thanks for your hard work.
I appreciate your very kind comments! I'm glad this information may be helpful for you!
Those diamond disks you list are AMAZING. Even though the disks are rated to 22,000 RPM, the low speed will keep from burning blade edges. I got the mini wheel as well, and it looks like it will work effectively. Whoever packed it was wearing heavy perfume, however 😅😅. Vevor was a new brand for me, but I'm seeing all sorts of small machines from them now.
Hi Mark! Wow! That person must have really gone overboard with the perfume! I’m happy to hear that the diamond discs are effective for you. Thanks for sharing your observations and happy sharpening!
Amazing sysem you developed thank you. have everything in my Amazon cart as we speak. just what I needed., thank you. Stay safe down there.
My pleasure, happy to share what has worked for me. Have fun with it!
Thank you for this.
I hope you & yours are well & have minimal hurricane issues.
I'm 69 & 43 mi north of Florida, Helene was the worst storm I've seen.
Looks like Milton wasn't as bad as it could've been.
Wishing you the best.
Hi Jon! We got real lucky because Milton went south of our home. Thanks very much for your thoughtful concern!
Very cool. Think I'll be making one. But I think I'll make a 5 inch mdf disc and glue it on the table then attach Velcro. Then I can just use standard sanding pads without having to cut them and it'll be much faster to change out pads. Even glue on Velcro to a 5 inch leather disc.
Sounds like a plan. I considered Velcro but decided not to use it because I was concerned about the spongy part of the Velcro being too soft and I wanted a herd flat surface. Let me know how it works out.👍
Hey Cousin Jack! Hope all is well with you and your family. This system looks fantastic. I have been hesitant to hone with power, and the sound level you demonstrated is definitely a positive feature! Nothing more satisfying than using something designed to use one way...for an entirely other purpose! Thanks for the content!
Hi Cousin Brandon! We made it through Milton without any damage. Just lost power/internet until yesterday.
Excellent work! Inexpensive way to get to an easier way to sharpen tools 😮! Thanks for the heads up 😊
My pleasure, happy to share what has worked for me.
Grand video jack lots of great information I appreciate all your videos this one knocks it out of the park stay safe
Hey Rob! Thanks very much. We got by with a very close call from hurricane Milton.
Thank you for a really helpful video. I am enjoying this system a great deal. I simply glue inexpensive wet-dry sandpaper to old CD's (simple to cut to fit CD - I use API Crafter's Pick Ultimate glue; less than 6 dollars at craft store), and I use inexpensive ultrathin double-sided woodworking tape to the side that attaches to the potter's wheel (5 dollars from Amazon - much less expensive than spray adhesive and works great). I also bought some inexpensive scrap leather from a local hobby store and cut it to size, glued it to a CD and loaded with compound for honing. That also works very well. I enjoy making knives using the technique that Kevin Coates shared - I have found the part of the filet knife blade I cut off can be easily shaped to a make a carving whittling/knife of various shapes and sizes. It is also fun to shape the handles to my exact needs. Bottom line is I end up with a couple of wood carving tools for about $10 each that are fun to make, seem to work as well as any I have purchased from a professional maker, and are easy to keep razor sharp using this simple system you suggested! (I must admit that about 90% of the time, a simple homemade leather strop loaded with diamond paste keeps the tools razor sharp.)
Kevin has proved that making your own knives can work out just fine. Thanks for sharing the ideas about the tape, the glue, and the CDs. I'm sure others here can benefit from your example!
Very well presented idea, thank you.
My pleasure Dean! Thanks very much for your comment!
Thank you for sharing this.
My pleasure, happy to share.
Thank you! Some good ideas here. I appreciate you sharing your these useful suggestions.
My pleasure, happy to share!
Very good explanation of what and why. For less than $40 it's definitely worth a try
Hi John! I've enjoyed using it. I have mine sitting within arms length of my recliner at all times.
Great idea Jack. I might have to try this a try. I have a bunch of old CDs and DVDs that can be repurposed.
My pleasure Brian. Let me know if the CDs/DVDs work out.
Brian Adam's "Cuts Like A Knife" CD may be a good one to use...but not here...one of my wife's favorite!!!
Great song!
Thank you for sharing. I had no idea there was a spray adhesive that you could spray on and restick. Great info and thanks for sharing what you used as far as discs. Do you have any issues honing or sharpening longer blades. Like filet knives or hunting knives?
Hi Bryan!
I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I generally use this system for my woodcarving tools. I’ve never tried using it to sharpen any knives with a long blade.
This is a fascinating video; thank you.
My pleasure, happy to share!
Hi,, I'm in the UK, adapted one of these last September to do exactly this to do gouges
Hi Paul! I'm interested to hear more. How has it worked out for you?
I use it just for honing gouges as the torque is not powerful enough, I can stop the motor, knives I do on a standard strop. I also use acrylic discs but hold them on with velcro or hook and loop discs. Was also looking at a more powerful potters wheel, 350w, and has a 10" wheel but this retails at £130 approx which is 4 times the cost. The inside of the gouge I stick leather to different size dowels to match the gouge, these are 12" long approximately so you can get a long pull on the gouge, thanks for all you are doing
Very interesting, thanks so much for sharing your experience and your results Paul!
Thank you for sharing...I'm going to try this.😊
Hi Roberto! Happy to share, have fun with it!
I was tempted to buy one last year and try exactly what you tried,but was put off by the negative reviews about the torque.
Gonna definitely get one and try it now after watching this..thanks Jack
Hello Clive! Just to clarify - the low end torque is weak, the speed of your honing/sharpening will be dependent upon the amount of pressure you apply and the amount of juice you give to the motor.
Making me want to get one, nicely described on the ins and outs. Didn't even know they made these little pottery wheels.
My pleasure, I'm happy to share what I have learned and what has worked for me.
This is a great idea. I've been working on something similar, using a windscreen wiper motor and plywood discs, but having the variable speed is a big improvement. It's interesting how you've come up with different solutions to what i have been doing. I will definitely get one of these and give it a go. Thanks for sharing 👍
Hi Rob! What can I say, my mind works in strange ways! My curiosity lead me to keep exploring different options. Have fun with it!
I will be giving this a try, thank you!
Hi Shane! Have fun with it!
What a great idea. This could be a hint for Christmas 🙂
Hi Tony! Glad you like it.
Great video!
Thanks Tommie!
Great video! Thank you!
My pleasure Leon! Thanks very much for your comment!
I have a Tomz Knife Massager, but this would be a nice addition for doing different jobs. I like it!
I also have a Tomz and was thinking the same thing.
Hi Michelle, It's been useful for me and I was somewhat inspired by the Tomz machine.
It's pretty versatile, that's one of the things I like most about it.
Very nice, Jack!
Thanks very much Dan!
Clever idea, I am going to try one for honing my carbide tools.
Thanks very much! I’m told by several people that the manufacturer has switched to a brushed motor. I’m not sure how that may impact your results.
@@WoodCarvingWeekly I am in the UK so what I get may be slightly different. The reviews were very favourable with only the small size being mentioned as a negative, nothing about problems with motor power etc.
@@caskwith Yes, I understand that there can be significant differences regarding the availability of products here in the states and what you have access to in the UK. In either case, I hope this information will be helpful for you my friend.
@@WoodCarvingWeekly Mine has arrived. As others have posited it does indeed have a brushed motor which lacks torque at slow speeds. I think however for my purposes it will still work ok.
@@caskwith Thanks for the update. I'll be curious to hear about your results.
'So then I thought '. Love it! Great video
LOL! What if? Thanks Jim, glad you liked it!
great video. Thanks!
My pleasure, thanks for your comment!
Great video...thank you so much...how do you hone complex edges, like gouges, v tools, etc ? Did you find profiled wheels?
My pleasure, happy to share. With gouges and V-tools I use the buffing wheel with some honing compound to get into the inside edge of the tools.
Awesome creation! Thank you for sharing. Any chance you can show us how you use it? I’m curious how well it works for kitchen knives.
Thanks very much! I’m not sure if this will be as effective on a kitchen knife due to the size of the blade.
This is genius. I have converted a variable speed lathe and have other ways to do this, but they are all much more expensive. I am going to try to resist getting one of the pottery wheels.
Thanks Phil! I keep this machine right next to my recliner and I don't have a lathe... yet.😄
thanks for sharing 👍
My pleasure Jim, happy to share!
I've just received one of these potters wheels and must say that the motor bogs down quite quickly under load. I really think a stronger motor is needed for anything more than just a quick rehone on the leather. But the principle is good 👍
Hi Rob. I'll be posting a follow up video just to clarify - the low end torque is weak, the speed of your honing/sharpening will be dependent upon the amount of pressure you apply and the amount of juice you give to the motor. Thanks for sharing your observations!
I love this! 🥰
Glad you like it Skippy!
Thank you so much!
Hi Dave! Happy to share what I’ve learned.
Thanks Jack very cool. Great Show as usual!!
Hi Norm! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great idea thanks
Hi Mark! Happy to pass along what works for me.
Great idea! Thank you for sharing. Good luck with the Hurricane Milton.
Thanks very much! We were very lucky - Hurricane Milton just missed us.
Love all your videos and as a fairly new carver, I have learned a lot from you. Do you think the motor with brushes would have more torque than the brushless motor?
Thanks for your comment, I’m happy to hear that you’re enjoying the channel! Here’s what I was able to find. Brushless motors generally have a higher torque density compared to brushed motors, meaning they can deliver more torque for a given size and weight[1][2][4]. This is due to the brushless design, which allows for finer control and better efficiency, enabling them to handle higher torque loads by adjusting power accordingly[2]. While brushed motors can provide high stall torque and smooth torque at low speeds, brushless motors are typically more efficient and capable of higher overall torque output in most applications[1][2].
Sources
[1] Brushed or Brushless: Choosing the Right Motor for the Application www.kollmorgen.com/en-us/blogs/brushed-or-brushless-choosing-the-right-motor-for-the-application
[2] What's the Difference Between Brushed and Brushless Motors? ibtinc.com/difference-between-brushed-brushless-motors/
[3] Brushless motors and torque? - R/C Tech Forums www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road/373983-brushless-motors-torque.html
[4] Brush vs. Brushless | Foredom Electric Company www.foredom.net/2024/05/brush-vs-brushless/
[5] What's the difference between a brushed and brushless motor, and ... www.reddit.com/r/Tools/comments/152n1wy/whats_the_difference_between_a_brushed_and/
[6] Brushless torque? - All things electric... - Tamiyaclub.com www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php
[7] Brushless Vs Brushed DC Motors: When and Why to Choose One ... www.monolithicpower.com/en/learning/resources/brushless-vs-brushed-dc-motors
Great. Could you do a video on basic 8" knife sharpening using your system. Thanks.
Thanks for your question. This channel provides information about woodcarving and related topics. If I was going to sharpen a kitchen knife I would probably use a larger sized pottery wheel to do that.
Thanks for sharing your idea. Have you considered using Velcro on the wheel? Then you could just use sanding discs for orbital sanders without having to mess with adhesives
Thanks for your question! Yes, I considered Velcro and I was concerned about the somewhat spongy nature of it because I wanted a very flat and stable surface.
I like it
Thanks Micheal!
Keep safe.
Thank you Anne! We came through the storm safe and sound.
Very good video Cousin Jack! That's very informative. What kind of rpm are you turning for honing? I have a variable speed lathe that's reversible. You got me thinking that I might be able to create a setup for honing my knives with those disks and wheels you mention in the video. Or maybe there's some kind of product that's already designed to fit on a lathe?
Hi Cousin Stephen! When I hone on the leather or the felt wheel I probably have it spinning around 100 to 200 RPM. When I use the cotton buffing wheel I turn it up to max speed. If you find something similar for a lathe let me know, I'm not aware of anything like this.
@@WoodCarvingWeekly Thanks for the information! If I find something I'll let you know.
Sounds good, thanks!
Got mine and made a stropping wheel. I agree with the comments about torque. You really can't strop at slow speeds. To strop, I put my knife on the leather wheel, then gradually increase the speed while maintaining pressure. The pressure keeps the wheel from spinning too fast and I get a good strop. When I take the knife off the wheel, the rpm's go way up. I have to slow the wheel down and start over to strop again. But it does do a good job of stropping if you tinker with it. I think it's a keeper but time will tell.
Love your comment! You've described the exact method that I use when I'm honing. My only exception is when I turn the machine on it's side and use the cotton buffing wheel - for that I turn the motor up to full speed. Thanks for sharing your experience with it.
@@WoodCarvingWeekly I have a drill hooked up to a variable speed unit that I use for buffing with an unsewn buffing wheel. Works great for knives and gouges/v tools. However, I did order a 6 inch felt wheel and I'm going to use that on my drill setup, not so much for carving knives but for regular knives. My drill setup has a mount that can be used to switch from horizonal to vertical. Been using this setup for many years. There is just enough clearance that I can use a 6 inch wheel.
@@Limicola1 Nice! Sounds like it's pretty effective!
This is a great idea! Thanks for sharing it. I have a couple Tomz sharpeners that I often use but this is a better deal. Cheaper and it has variable speed. You can also buy full sheets of sandpaper, glue them to the disks and trim. This will allow you to use really fine paper such as 1000 grit on up. Just ordered mine. A link to the Loctite woud be appreciated as well as more specifics on the acrylic disks. Are the ones you bought 0.080 in thickness?
Thanks very much for your comment! Yes, I have some fine grit sandpaper that I use as well. The acrylic discs I bought are about 1/8th" inch (3mm) thickness) but I believe they're out of stock right now. There are lots of others available, most important to me is the 4" diameter measurement. I'll see if I can find a link for the Loctite spray and add it as well.
The Tomz Knife Massager runs at 34 rpm. Would the higher rpm have a higher risk of damaging my knives, v-tools or gouges?
Hi Michal! There's always that risk. This machine does allow you to control the speed. Heating up the metal is also dependent upon the type of abrasive that you're using. Thanks for your question!
I don't know if I'd trust the adhesive at 2k RPM. You think there's a way to secure the wheel on the shaft?
I use the adhesive to secure the acrylic disc to the turntable and the turntable is secured by a set screw. I know some viewers have mentioned using Velcro or magnets. I suppose a more permanent solution would be removing the turntable and using some other universal hub attached to the shaft.
Would have been nice to see some actual sharpening, especially doing figure 8.
Thanks.
Might be worth adding a simple bent plate bracket (using the same attachment points as the rubber feet) so you can secure the machine to your worktable with a clamp when you're using it on it's side.
That’ll a great idea thanks very much for sharing that!
Good idea.
The way brushless motors work there will not be a mechanism to reverse the rotation just a switch to change the connections from the motor controller to the motor. If the platter runs one way only check the switch and the cabling.
Hi James! I appreciate your troubleshooting guidance on the brushless motor. Thanks for sharing the information!
@@WoodCarvingWeekly Does it use a DC power adapter? If so, what voltage please?
Hi James, Yes, the adapter is 12V.
@@WoodCarvingWeekly If you want the platter to revolve more slowly use a 6V power supply. I'm not certain how low a voltage can be applied and have it still work but an old USB power pack, or even a couple of AA batteries in series, might do.
@@jameslamb4573 Thanks for the tip James. I'll have to dig around the house and se what I can find.
I want a wheel we’re do you get one
I've added links here at the top of the comments and in the description just below the video.
How do you true a hard felt wheel? If you use a split rock-hard felt wheel and a high-intensity lamp with the blade edge under the wheel you can see the progress as you strop. Check out Ken Parker Archtoppery video "Ken Parker Archtoppery - Edge Tools - Sharpening Review - Chapter 4 of 4: Stropping with Buddy"
Hi Mark! Thanks very much for sharing the information about Ken Parker. He's like a mad scientist the way he did the calculations in his head! To true up my felt wheel I mounted it onto my buffing machine and used sandpaper to alter the shape and make it round. Warning: This can be a messy process with bits of wool coming off the felt wheel.
You may have just disrupted the sharpening industry.
LOL! If the industry machines were more affordable I probably wouldn't have come up with an alternative solution.
Sir, nothing against this idea or your presentation, but you are misunderstanding the concept of torque. It has very little to do with the amount of weight on the wheel, but rather how much turning force the wheel has. Axial load is irrelevant to torque.
I appreciate your comment. I’ll have to take your word for it because I don’t know what “axial load” is. 🙂
If it will spin 13 lbs easy, then it requires torque to start the axial load and if it’s spinning 13 lbs easily, torque will not be an issue. In my opinion.
@@bryannicholson843 Thanks Bryan!
That looks like a great tool but. Hand sharpening with a couple of diamond plates, stones, or abrasive paper is so easy cheap ,and not really time consuming. Why would you go to all the cost . Maybe you save a few minutes.
Why do we think we need a power tool for every imaginable purpose...ie electric tooth brush or nail buffer.??¿?😂
I hear you my friend. I still enjoy using my sharpening stones and stropping tools by hand. This was sort of an experiment and yes, it does save time when I have a batch of tools that need to be tuned up. Thanks for your comment.
I just received this item and unfortunately, I'm very disappointed. Even the slightest bit of pressure on the wheel completely stops it. There is virtually zero torque on this item. It is absolutely impossible to use. I understand the manufacturer has changed specifications but as of October 28, 2024 I would urge everyone to stay away from this product.
Hi Joe, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts given your experience with the machine.